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00:42 OldCoder They call jellow a mellow yellow fellow
00:43 OldCoder They call me mellow yellow
00:43 OldCoder Quite rightly
00:43 OldCoder They call me mellow yellow
00:43 OldCoder Quite rightly
00:43 OldCoder Born high forever to fly
00:43 OldCoder Wind velocity nil
00:43 OldCoder Wanna high forever to fly
00:43 OldCoder If you want your cup our fill
00:43 OldCoder They call me mellow yellow
00:43 OldCoder Quite rightly
00:43 OldCoder They call me mellow yellow
00:43 OldCoder Quite rightly
00:43 OldCoder
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01:00 hisforever how do I activate spawinning?
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01:34 jellow OldCoder: Thank you.
01:35 OldCoder o/
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02:01 * VanessaE peeks in
02:01 VanessaE is it safe? :P
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02:05 paramat no
02:06 jin_xi hey paramat how come you're so good with mapgens? are you a geologist or a noise doctor?
02:07 paramat mostly the hours put in
02:07 jin_xi did you do this kind of stuff before minetest?
02:07 paramat but also, i studied the maths of music for 3 years, very similar to perlin noise
02:08 jin_xi oh cool. octaves!
02:08 Zeno` perlin noise, or simplex noise?
02:08 paramat noise is like music but with extra dimensions
02:09 Zeno` I would agree that most music is noise
02:09 paramat oh i think MT noise is simplex ... ?
02:09 paramat well i listen black metal so ...
02:09 Zeno` I think it's simplex noise, despite the name, yeah
02:09 jin_xi \m/
02:09 Zeno` but *shrug*
02:10 paramat ... i like noisy music
02:10 rickmcfarley me too
02:10 Zeno` you don't like silent music?
02:10 paramat no i did no mapgen before MT
02:10 paramat i also like ambient music (Brian Eno)
02:10 jin_xi ok. well, your stuff is amazing and i hope to study it some time
02:11 rickmcfarley quiet calm music is less appealing to me
02:11 rickmcfarley unless its bedtime
02:11 paramat also i have an ability to 'think' in 3D structures
02:11 paramat perhaps something to do with being an 'aspie'
02:12 Catelite plenty of people can think in 3D structures
02:12 rickmcfarley I cannot, realistically
02:12 rickmcfarley the 3d structures in my head are surreal and dont work when I try to make them in real life(or a video game)
02:13 paramat Catelite yes sure, just more so with me
02:13 Catelite yay
02:13 paramat erm, and my whole life i've been obsessed with virtual 3D worlds
02:14 rickmcfarley paramat: do you like The Red Chord?
02:14 paramat never heard of them
02:14 paramat i don't like mainstream metal, 99% of metal is awful
02:15 rickmcfarley they arent mainstream
02:15 rickmcfarley they are from my home state NH
02:15 rickmcfarley very noisy
02:16 rickmcfarley I like time signature and tempo changes
02:16 paramat me too, polyrhythms, Meshuggah
02:17 * paramat listens to Red Chord
02:17 * Zeno` listens to skyrim theme
02:17 * Hobodium listens to the voices in his head
02:18 Zeno` Hobodium, to be fair, I listen to the Skyrim theme music to drown out the voices in my head
02:19 Hobodium The voices in my head say to tell you that Skyrim sucks, and that I should duck
02:19 paramat hm nice pretty good
02:20 rickmcfarley I only got into death metal and the like i the past few years
02:20 paramat try Darkspace https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBJgekiO6qc
02:20 rickmcfarley my favorite is the 80's-90's band Death
02:21 paramat i know a death metal band who use microtonal guitars, 16 notes per octave
02:21 rickmcfarley nice
02:22 paramat and yes im obsessed with guitars, basses mostly, i sometimes customise them to make them microtonal
02:22 rickmcfarley lol
02:22 rickmcfarley I'm theopposite
02:22 rickmcfarley vocals and drums
02:23 paramat ah drummers are thin on the ground
02:23 rickmcfarley im not very good at drumming, but it is fun to try complex beats(not that I accomplish them)
02:24 rickmcfarley but it makes my head feel really good
02:24 rickmcfarley same with yelling and screaming, I always feel really good and energized after shouting for a while
02:24 paramat here's my 8 string quartertone conversion https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho​tos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10479147_4227799411971​38_1468939136046082669_n.jpg?oh=deb2dba7​88c4409b14d6d5ffe4f006b5&oe=54C0D31F
02:24 paramat so 24 notes per octave
02:24 paramat can play Arabic scales
02:25 rickmcfarley thats awesome, I was happy to find out that different cultures had different systems of music
02:25 jin_xi nice. i tried to play oud once, sounded terrible as soon as i hit one of the quarter notes.
02:26 paramat yes i love Indian classical, that got me interested in microtonal stuff
02:28 rickmcfarley wow, I googled it and its a little mind blowing
02:28 paramat i love Sitars and all that string bending
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02:30 rickmcfarley lol
02:30 rickmcfarley I like how a sitar sounds
02:31 rickmcfarley I've been trying to get better at false vocal fold manipulation, so hopefully someday I can do like tuvan throat singing/overtone singing
02:32 Cylus rickmcfarley: Those singers are pretty trippy. It'd be really fun to be able to sing like them, but I'm working on other stuff right now.
02:33 karlexceed Hello channel, I need some help... Trying to migrate an sqlite world to leveldb, but getting 'not supported' error...
02:33 rickmcfarley right its so hard
02:33 Cylus At the moment, I'm trying to switch my handedness. With a bit more practice, I think I can become ambidextrous.
02:33 rickmcfarley sounds tough, I've heard that makes you smarter too
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02:34 Cylus Hey karlexceed! You came to the right place. I don't have the answer myself, but if you wait a bit, someone with the answer will see your question.
02:34 karlexceed Thx cylus, I'm patient... heh
02:35 Cylus rickmcfarley: The main thing I still can't do yet is write cleanly. I have everything else mostly down.
02:35 Cylus Then again, my hand writing with my right hand has never been great either.
02:35 rickmcfarley I try sometimes, but get frustrated. It feels like you are telling someone to do something, but they dont do exactly what you said
02:36 jin_xi i play both lefty and righty guitar
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02:36 Cylus jin_xi: Nice!
02:37 rickmcfarley jin_xi: is one better at some guitar work than the other or can you do pretty much the same thing with both?
02:37 Cylus rickmcfarley: Yeah, I don't understand why the brain can't know that both hands do the same thing. So you have to relearn to do everything.
02:37 jin_xi well, long story, im right handed so thats the natural way for me to play
02:37 rickmcfarley I knew an ambidextrous cook, but he had a strength cutting hand and an accuracy cutting hand
02:38 rickmcfarley i see
02:38 rickmcfarley I had trouble when I first started doing P90X, they work both sides evenly and my left side would always get injured
02:39 Cylus That's haw I've always been. My left hand performs strength-related tasks, but my right performs precision-based tasks. Until recently when I switch hands.
02:39 jin_xi so when i started lefty it was like ground zero
02:39 rickmcfarley lol
02:39 Zeno` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2s0aOhkjmY    <-- my way of cooking
02:39 jin_xi its howToBasic, right
02:39 * jin_xi checks
02:40 Cylus This is going to be fun though. Once I'm ambidextrous, I'm going to try to convince my family that I've always been left handed.
02:40 rickmcfarley lol
02:41 rickmcfarley Zeno: I'm glad I watched that
02:42 Zeno` Yes, it's fine dining
02:42 rickmcfarley My fiance is going to be pissed the next time I make breakfast
02:42 Zeno` lol
02:43 rickmcfarley Cylus: are you just trying to do everything with you offhand? or do you have a routine or something?
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02:45 Cylus rickmcfarley: I'm doing everything with my off hand. This has actually made it so I can perform tasks better with my off hand whenever I am only using on hand, though I still do better using both hands if using my on hand dominantly.
02:45 Cylus *only using one hand
02:45 rickmcfarley Cylus: That's cool, I've tried doing random task with my left hand(since P90X showed me that my left side is much less capable)
02:45 Cylus In cases where I *must* use both hand, I reverse my hands roles.
02:46 rickmcfarley ah
02:46 est31 does anybody know how to remove shadows?
02:46 rickmcfarley I heard it does really good things for your brain, and mine could use all the help it can get
02:46 Cylus est31: Last I knew, there was not a good way, but things may have changed.
02:47 Cylus rickmcfarley: Yeah, I could use more brain power as well, though my goal is just to make both of my hands be useful.
02:48 est31 what is the old way?
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02:50 Cylus est31: Old way to do what? Remove shadows? I don't know of a new or old way to do that.
02:50 est31 ok thanks anyway
02:50 Cylus You could probably write some hacky code involving making the air glow, but that would light caves too.
02:51 Cylus I assume you only want to remove the ill-placed shadows.
02:52 est31 when I build something and there was a shadow before that shadow now falls onto the buildng
02:52 Cylus You mean the odd shadows that dot the landscape even though there's nothing there to cast the shadows?
02:52 est31 yes
02:53 Cylus That's a known issue, but I don't think we have a fix yet.
02:53 est31 lua or engine?
02:53 Cylus Engine.
02:54 Cylus The odd shadows are placed during C++ mapgen, I believe.
02:55 est31 so in theory when there was a shadow and the thing that casted it gets removed the shadow also vanishes?
02:56 Cylus est31: Yes. So if you can find the air that is casting the shadow, fill it with something solid such as wood, then remove the solid node, the shadow should disappear. Though I've never managed to find the exact place that casts the shadow.
02:57 karlexceed Does anyone know if mt 4.9 available from the repos in Ubuntu supports leveldb?
02:57 kaeza est31, Cylus, there's a command for that purpose in WorldEdit: //fixlight
02:58 Cylus Oh, sweet. So install worldedit and you're golden then.
02:58 est31 okay need to try that
02:58 est31 thanks
02:58 Cylus kaeza: Does that use the usual selected region?
02:58 VanessaE when //fixlight doesn't work, try  //replace air air
02:58 kaeza Cylus, yes
02:59 Cylus kaeza: Nice. I'll have to look at that code later then and see how it does that.
02:59 rickmcfarley Cylus: Yeah, It would be nice to have both hands as useful as each other. I think I'll start using my offhand for more. Thanks for the inspiration!
02:59 kaeza hey V
02:59 Cylus rickmcfarley: Nice. Good luck!
03:00 VanessaE hi
03:00 rickmcfarley Cylus: Thanks dude!
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03:23 argyle What does fixlight actually do?
03:24 argyle /replace air air!  Great!  I've been having this problem.
03:26 Hobodium Is there a way to change the texture of a specific node?
03:27 VanessaE Hobodium: only when you define it at program start
03:27 VanessaE not in realtime.
03:27 VanessaE argyle: //fixlight I think runs nodeupdate() on each node in the selection area
03:28 VanessaE this used to force a light recalculation in the server
03:28 VanessaE still works in some cases
03:28 VanessaE I forget who showed me that //replace air air trick but it works pretty much anywhere that //fixlight doesn't
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03:28 VanessaE even when you get those big, square, pitch-black shadows if the mapgen screws up like what's happened a couple of times in the past
03:29 Hobodium So if I want a block that changes textures for whatever reason, it would have to be several defined nodes?
03:29 VanessaE s/mapgen/voxelmanip/
03:29 argyle Thanks.  I was just selecting and filling and it took forever.  Didn't occur to me to replace.  fixlight didn't ever seem to do anything.
03:29 VanessaE Hobodium: correct, or use an entity
03:29 Hobodium Thank you very much, VanessaE
03:29 VanessaE Hobodium: you can redefine textures in realtime on those.
03:31 VanessaE I'm off.  bbl
03:31 VanessaE bedtime.
03:32 Hobodium Night
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03:48 Hobodium https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Fn_v4R2WeKm5.png my phallic mushrooms are aliiiiive
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04:52 Fritigern Grrrr.... Server crashed whilst i was out. It was down for about 4 hours!
04:53 Fritigern Does anyone know of a way to have the server restart if it suddenly goes poof?
04:53 VanessaE Fritigern: use a keep-alive script, like this one:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/m​inetest/Server-scripts/minetestserver-vanilla.sh
04:54 Fritigern *CLICK*
04:54 VanessaE that's a bit more complicated than most people need but I tend to go for overkill
04:55 VanessaE run that with nohup or & or screen or whatever your favorite method is to detach
04:55 Zeno` tmux :p
04:55 VanessaE or that
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04:57 Fritigern URGH i need to reboot. :-(
04:57 VanessaE why?
04:58 Fritigern Updates, and one of them aparrently makes it so that dolphin is slower than crud, until i have rebooteded
04:58 Fritigern BRB
04:58 kaeza is it just me or the forums are kinda inactive lately? there's not even spambots to kill :(
04:58 VanessaE ah
04:59 VanessaE kaeza: not really sure
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05:03 Fritigern And reboot complete.
05:05 Fritigern VanessaE: Starting the server as i usually do, until i have looked (and prolly altered) the script you gave me
05:07 VanessaE ok
05:09 Fritigern Yup, it does need altering so that it will work with my server (paths and world names need to change, maybe more :-)
05:09 VanessaE *nod* it's quite specific to my machine :)
05:10 VanessaE btw you can leave out that line about /tmp/players_v.txt
05:10 Fritigern I see you use absolute paths, i often use relative ones, even though absolute is best
05:10 VanessaE (it's part of the thing I use for tracking player counts)
05:11 VanessaE the absolutes is really more of a habit than anything else.
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05:12 Fritigern It's good practice IMO, that way you can put the script anywhere and not run into trouble
05:12 Fritigern BTW, what are the unittests? What does it do, and why do you disable them on your server?
05:13 VanessaE I disable them because I sometimes build the server in debug mode and they occasionally fail (without there being any relationship to the stuff I actually run), but what they actually *are* I don't know
05:14 VanessaE when they fail, they cause the server to not start up
05:14 Fritigern I see. Soo disabling them makes the startup more... reliable?
05:15 VanessaE sorta - it's more of a leftover than anything else.  I can't recall the last time I saw a failure in the engine's unit tests, I just never thought to remove that switch
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05:16 Fritigern Well, i am going to leave it that way. If it doesn;t cause problems, why change it? :-)
05:17 VanessaE yep :)
05:18 Fritigern BTW, i have added a new variable, $MT_DIR to keep lines nice and short :-))
05:19 VanessaE showoff ;)
05:19 VanessaE I was just too lazy :P
05:19 Fritigern This IS my lazyness! I don;t want to type /home/balaam/Documents/git/Minetest 5 or 6 times :-))))
05:20 VanessaE hahah
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05:31 Zeno` I disable them because I have ipv6 completely absent
05:31 Zeno` And the unit tests don't like ipv6 sockets failing :/
05:31 VanessaE heh
05:31 VanessaE good example there
05:32 VanessaE I don't recall now what the failure was that prompted me to add that switch in the first place
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05:33 Fritigern Hmmm... So i thought that for some reason my messed up the script, but then irealized that somehow the script is non-verbose
05:34 Zeno` VanessaE, probably as a workaround for the ipv6 issue :)
05:35 Zeno` restructure the_game() attempt #1 ===> FAIL
05:35 Zeno` and my mind melted as well
05:35 VanessaE haha
05:35 * Fritigern changed the last line so that it will be verbose again. It's reassuring to me ;-)
05:35 VanessaE you'll get it sorted :)
05:36 Zeno` maybe if I removed sound
05:36 Zeno` nobody uses sound anyway... /me tries
05:37 Zeno` :p
05:41 Zeno` umm it works
05:41 Zeno` made a silly mistake
05:41 VanessaE oh shit.
05:41 VanessaE :)
05:46 Fritigern My log says "22:40:34: ACTION[ServerThread]: <name witheld> greifing attempt". I wonder which mod decided that it was A: a griefing attemt, and B, the griefing is supposed to be spelled as "greifing" :-)
05:46 Fritigern *attempt
05:46 VanessaE landrush
05:46 Fritigern (I can spell very well, my fingers however, are dyslexic)
05:46 argyle Theres alot of mods.
05:47 VanessaE that's the only one I know of that tries to make griefing claims of that nature
05:47 Fritigern Then I will mod that mod. Having such an error is unacceptable to a grammar nazi like me.
05:47 VanessaE lol
05:47 VanessaE argyle: s/alot/a lot/
05:47 VanessaE and indeed, there are.
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05:48 argyle I think I'm running like 30 maybe
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05:49 Fritigern Only 30? Try 150 :-)
05:49 VanessaE 30?  pfft.  Dreambuilder has over 60, plus the default former minetest_game stuff :)
05:49 argyle Woof!  I liked moretrees and the plant stuff, but it slowed me down too much.
05:49 Fritigern Pacata has 151 :-)
05:49 argyle I haven't tried them since compiling in luajit
05:50 argyle I went through the dreambuilder list when I was looking for them.
05:50 VanessaE argyle: plants_lib has been greatly improved since then
05:50 VanessaE try it again please
05:50 VanessaE it's no longer laggy
05:51 VanessaE it still takes time to generate terrain, but it doesn't slow the game down while it's doing so anymore
05:51 argyle ok.  I've been holding out.  There is an island on my world made up of "unknown items"
05:52 argyle I tried to blow it up, but that didn't help.
05:53 argyle Does that emerge_threads setting work?
05:53 VanessaE I'm not sure if it still does (or to what degress)
05:53 VanessaE er, degree*
05:53 VanessaE ok, I'm gonna crash for the night I think.
05:53 argyle I got a 4 core, but I don't think it ever peaks 2.
05:54 VanessaE be sure you fetch dreambuilder from git, and use luajit, it always helps :)
05:54 VanessaE night all
05:54 argyle goodnight
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06:39 argyle It looks like tinytrees was my problem with unknown items, but I can't find the mod link.
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06:52 argyle I set this fire a month ago.  I guess I just gotta watch it burn out.
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07:14 Fritigern argyle: Tiny trees: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5713
07:17 argyle Thank you <Fritigern>!  My island finally stopped burning.
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07:50 Krock Meow
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07:53 Yellow_ Iis anyone here?
07:54 deasanta info for dev.minetest.net maintainers - the cat captcha is about to expire - still working - should have stopped 4 days ago...
07:54 deasanta hi? Yellow_
07:54 Krock Yellow_, me not.
07:55 Krock deasanta, noticed the same on 6th october
07:55 Yellow_ Can you help me? So When I start Minetest The start page words are white and black blurbs
07:56 deasanta windows or linux or other ?
07:57 Krock Yellow_, are you using windows or linux?
07:57 deasanta can you upload a temporary screenshot to http://www.image4u.org/ or similar site ?
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08:01 OldCoder Yellow_, I am here briefly
08:02 Krock o/ OldCoder is here!
08:03 OldCoder Krock, Moin
08:03 Krock moin
08:05 Yellow_ I I am useing windows and here you go http://prntscr.com/4uqrj0
08:06 Krock interesting font
08:06 Krock delete the fonts folder in your minetest folder and paste it again there from the zip archve
08:06 * Nekrodes loves it :D
08:06 Krock *archive
08:07 Krock ^ Yellow_
08:07 Yellow_ What do you mean?
08:07 deasanta _yellow - what font is that ? did you edit the minetest config or replace a font ?
08:07 Yellow_ Nope
08:08 deasanta yellow - where did you get your minetest from ?
08:08 Yellow_ The Minetest site
08:08 Krock as I said, replace the fonts folder in your minetest folder with the original one in the archive
08:09 Krock if that does not solve the problem, search in your minetest.conf the setting "font_path"
08:10 Yellow_ Ok I'll try to delte the font folder
08:10 deasanta you still need that folder - replace it with the one you have downloaded - from the zip file
08:11 deasanta and if you are really stuck - rename minetest.conf to minetest.conf.bak and let minetest create a new config file
08:11 Krock ^ not needed, I guess
08:13 Yellow_ Well I tried replacing and didn't work
08:13 Krock then do the 2nd step as I said
08:14 Krock Because everything seems to be fine except the font
08:14 Krock okay.. buttons look a bit weird through
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08:16 Yellow_ What is the config soposeto be open with because I opened it with Notepad++ and nothing about font path
08:16 Krock that's weird
08:17 deasanta crock - i've found a nice minecraft like font which works :) created by Andrew Tyler www.AndrewTyler.net - cc-by-sa - google minecraftia.zip
08:17 Yellow_ Is it the exampe you want?
08:17 Krock close minetest and add the setting "freetype = true" and start it again
08:17 Krock I mean *false
08:17 deasanta font can be seen in example - dont think it is in there by default or when .conf is generated
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08:18 Krock deasanta, expected a gag behind this
08:19 Yellow_ Do you want another screen shot of the config I see?
08:19 Krock a screen after adding the new setting
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08:23 Yellow_ http://prntscr.com/4uqujj here is the game after the "freetype" thing
08:24 Krock Ehm. Which OpenGL version do you have? Should be in the console window
08:25 OldCoder Does anybody present use Animals?
08:26 Krock OldCoder, I'm using sheep to get wool
08:26 Yellow_ It says 1.2 or better
08:26 Krock hmm
08:26 OldCoder Krock, is there a reason that Animals (new) added to a world with an old "default" might not have Animals appearing?
08:27 OldCoder The old default was apparently missing some ABMs
08:27 OldCoder So trees for example
08:27 OldCoder may not grow in old worlds and new core
08:27 Krock hmm seriously, no idea
08:27 OldCoder Is there an issue of this type with animals?
08:27 OldCoder Very well
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08:29 sfan5 Yellow_: which graphics card do you have?
08:30 Krock [Win] + [R] -> enter "dxdiag" to get a full list
08:32 Yellow_ VIA/S3G  UniChrome Pro IGP
08:33 Krock http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.​php?gpu=VIA%2FS3G+UniChrome+Pro+IGP&amp;id=1971
08:33 Krock I think you need a new graphics card
08:34 Krock At least try to update the drivers
08:34 deasanta minecraft same issue same chip - http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/unm​odified-minecraft-client/1870848-graphics-error
08:34 Fritigern Yup, that GFX card is ancient! It even struggles wghen scrolling in a document in MS Word
08:36 Krock Fritigern, my onboard graphics had one point less (4) at the benchmark test and was able to play minetest with low fps but no corrupted tonts :3
08:36 Krock *fonts
08:36 Yellow_ I'm going through all this trouble for a friend....
08:37 Krock your frind will love you then
08:38 deasanta maybe try direct3d instead of opengl ? - im not sure how to change that but can be done in config i think
08:38 Yellow_ So the same as usal
08:39 Fritigern My advice still stands, your friend needs a new GFX card. This chart may help choosing a new one : http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html
08:39 Yellow_ He better appreate it or I'm wasting my time at 2:30 in the morning
08:40 Fritigern 2:39 :-)
08:40 Yellow_ Oh what ever
08:41 Yellow_ Ok... I guess I'll go back to recording some more steam games
08:41 Krock you should go bed instead
08:41 Krock :P
08:42 Yellow_ I I work at night....
08:42 Krock deasanta, without a newer driver it won't work with any other hardware renderers - irrlicht's software render could work
08:43 Krock also burningsvideo would work the same way on all graphic cards because it's calculated by the CPU
08:44 Krock ^ not 100% sure, just thinking because of the speeed :3
08:44 Yellow_ Ok thanks for the help... at least we tried
08:45 Krock you tried to update the driver?
08:45 Yellow_ Oh I did
08:45 Krock oh okay
08:47 Yellow_ Ok I'm off
08:48 Krock bai
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08:54 deasanta krock - do you use irr 1.8.1 or 1.9 in your build ?
08:54 Krock deasanta, 1.8.1
08:55 Krock self-built with direct3d8 and 9 support
08:55 deasanta krick - tnx - how do you do the mention thing you do in irc?
08:55 Krock > krick :
08:55 deasanta sry
08:56 Krock What I do in IRC? I help and (sometimes) troll people.
08:57 deasanta :)
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08:58 deasanta what is the best thing to type when i want to refer to someone instead of typing "krock: thanks for the help"
08:59 speak deasanta: You type /me thanks krock for the help
08:59 Krock ^
08:59 * deasanta thank krock for help
09:00 Krock "ty", "thx", or whatever.
09:00 Krock np
09:00 ninnghazad such friendly... what has become of the interwebs...
09:01 Krock xD
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10:03 Jordach !c (64+64+46)*1536
10:03 MinetestBot 267264
10:04 Zeno` I knew that!
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10:05 Zeno` !c(60+60+40+4+4+6) * 1000 + c(60+60+40+4+4+6) * 1000 / 2
10:05 Zeno` !c (60+60+40+4+4+6) * 1000 + c(60+60+40+4+4+6) * 1000 / 2
10:05 MinetestBot NameError: name 'c' is not defined
10:05 Zeno` silly bot
10:05 Zeno` !c (60+60+40+4+4+6) * 1000 + (60+60+40+4+4+6) * 1000 / 2
10:05 MinetestBot 261000.0
10:05 Zeno` hmm
10:05 Zeno` oh, 36!
10:06 Zeno` !c (60+60+40+4+4+6) * 1000 + (60+60+40+4+4+6) * 1000 / 2 + (60+60+40+4+4+6) * 10 * 3
10:06 MinetestBot 266220.0
10:06 Zeno` meh, whatever
10:06 Zeno` I musn't have known it after all
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10:25 Krock http://i.imgur.com/DelMv34.png
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10:28 Zeno` Krockster, best pal and buddy!
10:28 Krock pal?
10:28 Krock how come?
10:29 Zeno` why not?
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10:33 Zeno` proller, best pal and buddy!
10:33 Amaz XD
10:36 Zeno` Amaz!
10:36 Zeno` Best pal and buddy!
10:36 Amaz Zeno`!
10:36 Amaz :P
10:37 ninnghazad at least he gets cute when he's drunk.
10:37 PenguinDad Krock: your menu looks dirty :P
10:38 Krock PenguinDad, at least the complete build is not dirty
10:38 Amaz It looks old...
10:38 Amaz Like you've come from 0.4.4
10:38 Krock Amaz, menu_clouds = false
10:39 * Krock sees the player "Admin" joining and whe he leaves, he already joins again then he himes out and rejoins again
10:39 * Krock knows about mobile phones
10:39 Amaz Is that the default background with that setting?
10:39 Krock Amaz, it depends on the texture pack
10:40 Amaz Okay.
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10:46 PenguinDad Amaz: the default texture without a texture pack is the dirt texture from minimal
10:47 Amaz Okay.
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11:31 OldCoder Does anybody know why animals might not be generated?
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12:32 pitriss OldCoder: in mobf is some setting like secondary spawning to spawn mobs on already generated land
12:33 OldCoder pitriss all right
12:33 OldCoder I believe that already generated is the issue
12:35 pitriss ok.. I'm not much skilled in mobs mods.. but i saw something like that in configuration window:)
12:36 OldCoder yes
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13:38 ninnghazad can a single node drop multiple items on dig? if so, how does minetest.get_node_drops tell me how many to drop? it seems to tell me just what kind of items to drop.
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13:52 pitriss ninnghazad: single node can drop multiple items for sure.. But I don't know answer for rest of your question.
13:55 ThatGraemeGuy ninnghazad: http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_node_drops <-- does that help?
13:55 ninnghazad thx, but ofc i already read that but i have no clue how ItemStack does know how many items to put in stack just from the name-strings get_node_drops returns
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13:57 ThatGraemeGuy it's defined in the Lua code
13:57 ThatGraemeGuy i don't think i'm understanding the question :-/
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14:18 ninnghazad hm, nodes can have droptables of multiple itemstacks, but each stack is always 1 item. so nodes cannot drop a stack of 4 but 4 stacks of 1. good enought for me.
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14:23 Zeno` you can change max_itmes
14:23 Zeno` max_items*
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14:24 Zeno` ninnghazad, see https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2452
14:25 Zeno` 2455 really
14:27 ninnghazad ye, i looked in source of get_node_drops. just thought the stacks must have sizes, but that just wasn't the case. but all is well - it works as i want it to.
14:28 Fritigern To me, as a non-programmer, that sounds as if it would not be possible to have a chest drop its contents when someone digs the chest.
14:30 ninnghazad i was just thinking about this, wondering if robots digging a chest should empty it first or just make the chest burst. but the contents of the chest are not related to its drop-table. the contents you get from its inv-obj with amount, the droptable will just contain the chest itself.
14:31 ninnghazad so for a chest to burst it would have to spill its inventory on_dig
14:31 Fritigern Hmmm.... Then again, if that really were not possible, then how does the drop_on_death mod make you drop your items?
14:31 ninnghazad its possible, just hasnt todo with droptable
14:31 ninnghazad actually i find dropping from inventory easier
14:31 ninnghazad a bit more intuitive to me
14:32 Fritigern BTW, i don;t know it it is possible, but moving stuff between chest and player inventory should be improved. It is way too slow.
14:33 Fritigern *if it is possible
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14:34 ninnghazad that is true, at least if doing it manually as the player. also modifier-hotkeys would be nice, so shift-click moves item directly instead of grabbing it.
14:35 * Fritigern wishes he could write Lua
14:35 Fritigern Perhaps in due time
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14:37 ninnghazad if you hang around here enough you probably don't even have the choice not to understand it ;)
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14:42 realtinymonster Hello all!
14:43 realtinymonster I am going to record a dozen or so minetest videos today and I was wondering if anyone wanted to be in them?
14:44 * Krock
14:44 Krock I wanna get some more hates
14:44 Krock +r
14:45 realtinymonster Krock: doth thou have skype?
14:45 Krock nope. I got IRC.
14:45 realtinymonster aw
14:46 realtinymonster who here would like to be in my videos that have skype?
14:46 realtinymonster PenguinDad?
14:48 realtinymonster Megaf?
14:48 realtinymonster i'd even record with Jordach!
14:50 Megaf realtinymonster: Hi
14:50 * realtinymonster is desperate
14:51 realtinymonster I was going to record with Amaz, but he's busy all day
14:51 Megaf realtinymonster: theres people on my server right now, feel free to record there
14:51 Megaf !server Megaf
14:51 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 3/9, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1706ms
14:52 realtinymonster oh, ok
14:52 Megaf realtinymonster: but I'm a little busy too
14:53 realtinymonster I can't start recording for about 2 more hours tho
14:53 realtinymonster also, dat ping doe
14:57 realtinymonster Megaf, will you still be busy in 2 hours?
14:57 Megaf I dont think so
14:57 realtinymonster Do you think you could do it then?
14:57 Megaf but it would be nice if you join the server before recording to see how it is and know something about it
14:58 cities realtinymonster,
14:58 cities to go on youtube?
14:58 realtinymonster yep cities
14:58 cities fun
14:58 cities ill subscribe
14:58 realtinymonster you want to join me?
14:58 cities im at work right now
14:58 realtinymonster 2 hours
14:58 realtinymonster ?
14:59 cities lol. about 7 more hours
14:59 realtinymonster sheet
14:59 realtinymonster what time do you get off?
14:59 cities 4, then 35 min drive to get home, then
14:59 cities wife leaves with hotspot and no internet
15:00 realtinymonster darn
15:00 cities plus I sound all country and embarassing
15:01 realtinymonster well, anyone can if they would like
15:01 cities ive never done that, would be fun to do one day
15:01 realtinymonster yeah, it really is
15:02 cities then I can become a youtube sensation
15:02 cities j/k
15:02 realtinymonster heheh
15:02 cities Lets Play Minetest with cities the idiot Part 1
15:03 Krock realtinymonster, gimme your YT channel link. Gimme ALL your links!
15:03 realtinymonster lel
15:03 realtinymonster working on it
15:03 realtinymonster i'm on a slow computer atm
15:04 cities I saw this cubeworld minecraft mod. biomes generate in cubes of glass
15:04 cities I wanna do that in minetest
15:04 realtinymonster https://www.youtube.com/user/zsoltisawesome
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15:04 Krock roblox let's plays...
15:04 realtinymonster cities: I like biospheres better, but meh
15:04 cities cool too
15:05 cities I saw that
15:05 cities I think I'd rather do the cube shape but I'd be good with that too
15:05 * Krock is going to record minetest videos after ge hets more than 30 fps while moving around
15:05 Krock *gets
15:06 Krock realtinymonster, the background on top looks nice
15:06 cities just subscribed RealBadAngel
15:06 cities err
15:06 Krock but the roboman picture does not fit
15:06 cities realtinymonster,
15:06 Krock cities, yesh. I hate this tab fail too
15:06 realtinymonster nettalk needs a better CTCP version request Krock, tell the dev that please
15:06 cities hah
15:07 Krock <CTCP-VERSION:Krock>Nettalk  6.7.16  (c)2002-
15:07 Krock ..
15:07 realtinymonster yeah
15:07 Krock what's wrong?
15:07 realtinymonster it doesn't show system version info like its supposed to
15:07 Krock nettalk runs on windows..
15:07 realtinymonster k
15:07 cities ok judge judy time
15:08 Krock realtinymonster, http://www.ntalk.de/Nettalk​/en/index.php?page=Download
15:08 Krock it shows system information a bit.. but wine users can manipulate that..
15:10 realtinymonster hmm
15:11 * Krock removed the field "Popular Youtube channels" with adblock
15:11 cities whats roblox realtinymonster
15:11 realtinymonster lol, nice
15:11 Krock good question. what's robolx?
15:12 Krock ><
15:12 Krock ^ monospace required
15:13 realtinymonster its a game where users make "Places" to run on the ROBLOX engine (Heavily based on OGRE) using bricks, lua scripts, and special objects such as sparkles and such
15:13 realtinymonster ^ cities Krock
15:14 cities another voxel based sandbox type game?
15:14 Krock k.
15:14 * Krock gives realtinymonster /ctcp Krock finger
15:15 realtinymonster cities: not exactly voxel based, more like legos and that stuff
15:15 cities you're a nice person
15:15 cities did you know that
15:15 realtinymonster no, I didn't, what makes you say that?
15:15 cities I went to some channel and asked what something was
15:16 cities something said it was dumb because it was easily findable on google
15:16 cities I said if I wanted to use google I would have
15:16 cities I came to IRC for the conversatinoal aspect
15:16 realtinymonster ah, well, thanks!
15:17 realtinymonster Krock: http://loilo.tv/us/product/game_recorder
15:17 cities you didn't link me to google so that makes you a nice person
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15:18 realtinymonster cities: I only link to google if I have little knowledge on the subject
15:18 Krock realtinymonster, is it possible to change the quality?
15:18 realtinymonster like HD and shit?
15:18 realtinymonster yes
15:18 cities version reply: wish I was using irssi
15:19 Krock k
15:19 realtinymonster lol
15:19 Krock 4K videos!
15:19 realtinymonster lol
15:19 realtinymonster idk if you can do that
15:19 realtinymonster you can do 1080p tho
15:19 Krock I don't even have such big screen
15:19 realtinymonster if your computer is good enough
15:19 Krock *cough*
15:21 Krock realtinymonster, made this a while ago: http://www.passmark.com/baseline​s/V8/display.php?id=26603856860
15:22 realtinymonster note to self: The Dazzlings are assholes
15:23 * realtinymonster understands that only 4 or five people will get that ^
15:23 realtinymonster but they really are
15:24 realtinymonster Note: Spoilers: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/My_Little_​Pony_Equestria_Girls:_Rainbow_Rocks
15:25 realtinymonster Krock: i've got like a 4 times better laptop than you, and I get about 20 fps recording
15:26 Krock congrats.
15:26 Krock bonus cookie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SukTBSJJ4KM
15:27 realtinymonster LOL
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15:28 realtinymonster hi jojoa1997
15:29 realtinymonster ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)
15:29 realtinymonster ( º ͜ʖ º)
15:30 realtinymonster Krock, cities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-0hr18g_TM
15:31 Krock ..
15:31 realtinymonster lol
15:35 * PenguinDad looks around
15:35 shadowzone Hi jojoa1997.
15:35 * Krock tells PenguinDad to look up
15:36 PenguinDad That's 20000 hardcore members! *totally confused*
15:37 Krock 20k?
15:37 jojoa1997 hi
15:37 PenguinDad Krock: https://soundcloud.com/pegboar​dnerds/pegboard-nerds-20k-free
15:39 Krock k.
15:40 shadowzone Where can I find the file that controls the way the main menu looks?
15:47 PenguinDad shadowzone: all lua files in builtin/mainmenu control that
15:47 shadowzone Thank you.
15:48 * VanessaE peeks in
15:49 * sfan5 meows at VanessaE
15:49 VanessaE hi
15:49 sfan5 hi
15:49 VanessaE what's news?
15:49 shadowzone Hi VanessaE, how are you?
15:49 sfan5 a bug in mesecons is bugging me
15:50 sfan5 and there are no 4-way insulated mesecons :(
15:50 sfan5 and no vertial insulated mesecons :(
15:50 VanessaE I'm fine
15:50 VanessaE sfan5: wat?  I thought there were?
15:50 sfan5 nope
15:52 Amaz Shocking news: A dev actually plays Minetest!
15:52 Amaz ;)
15:53 shadowzone o.O
15:53 Hobodium What, I thought they just sat in their ivory tower and lorded their creations over us!
15:53 shadowzone celeron55?
15:53 shadowzone Cause that was a fake/
15:53 Amaz shadowzone, nope, see above.
15:54 shadowzone Oh.
15:54 shadowzone sfan5.
15:54 shadowzone he played on Joe
15:54 shadowzone oops
15:54 shadowzone Jordach's server.
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15:58 realtinymonster Amaz: I though you had to go...
15:59 Amaz In 25 minutes or so...
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16:20 Dragonop Hi, does someone now the IRC for VanessaE free for all?
16:20 VanessaE hi Dragonop
16:20 VanessaE what's up?
16:20 Dragonop hi
16:21 Amaz Dragonop, I belive that it is just #minetest on InchraNet...
16:22 VanessaE indeed it is, covers several servers
16:22 Dragonop oh, that's true, heh, sorry my mistake
16:22 Dragonop bye
16:22 Dragonop and thanks
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16:30 Krock lol. http://imgur.com/gallery/7lwhOpz
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16:32 Krock !cat += http://i.imgur.com/CR1uYUh.jpg
16:32 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/A6Pw3Cf.jpg
16:36 PenguinDad !c table.insert(cat, "http://imgur.com/a/byqRq")
16:36 MinetestBot NameError: name 'table' is not defined
16:36 PenguinDad :(
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16:44 sfan5 Krock: pull request pls
16:44 * Krock walks there
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16:48 Krock ShadowNinja: pull request pls
16:49 sfan5 huh?
16:49 Krock sfan5, did you mean an other pull request?
16:49 shadowzone I think he's trying to be funny.
16:50 Krock oh. the one with the kitten? :3
16:50 sfan5 Krock: I meant that you should make a pull request if you want something added to !cat
16:50 sfan5 https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules
16:50 Krock yes. I got it now. I thought you meant something othe
16:50 Krock r
16:52 realtinymonster PenguinDad: do you want to record minetest with me?
16:53 shadowzone What is it with people and anime,cats and unicorns?
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16:53 realtinymonster shadowzone: idk
16:54 ElectronLibre Good <put part of day word here> everyone. :)
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16:54 realtinymonster hi ElectronLibre
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16:57 kaeza greetings
16:58 Krock hi
16:59 Krock sfan5, pull #9
16:59 realtinymonster ElectronLibre: would you be interested in recording a video with me?
16:59 ElectronLibre realtinymonster, when?
16:59 sfan5 Krock: only direct image links please
16:59 shadowzone I will.
16:59 Krock ..mhm
17:01 ElectronLibre Because realtinymonster, my connection now is very poor (around 10Kb/s Download and 1Kb/s Upload, so recording a video now is totally impossible. Later yes, in 1 or 2 hours my connection will be good.
17:01 realtinymonster in a few minutes? I could wait a little while, if you need that
17:01 realtinymonster oh ok
17:01 ElectronLibre And where?
17:01 realtinymonster ElectronLibre: you have skype?
17:02 realtinymonster some Minetest server
17:02 ElectronLibre realtinymonster, no :/..
17:02 realtinymonster ElectronLibre: no what?
17:02 ElectronLibre No skype account.
17:02 shadowzone Has anyone ever worked with LuaBot?
17:03 Krock sfan5, fixed
17:03 PenguinDad lol my upload is two times faster than my download
17:04 Krock PenguinDad: http://www.quickmeme.com/img/11/1134ed9021bf555e7e​0119afe13d16efe384738bc32704596a59e1775bb8da60.jpg
17:05 PenguinDad 200 kbit/s down, 400 kbit/s up :D
17:06 * ElectronLibre start to cry thinking about is own connection >_>...
17:06 ElectronLibre *starts
17:06 Krock *his
17:06 ElectronLibre Pff, my fingers are tired today..
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17:09 Krock ''help
17:09 HLuaBot Commands: reload, load, unload, plugins, op, deop, devoice, voice, join, part, help, uptime, echo, raw, eval, quit, more, ping, shutdown, config, networks, connect, disconnect, tell -- Use 'help <command name>' to get help with a specific command.
17:12 Jordach >8mbps >promised 64mbps
17:12 Jordach fook you BT
17:14 realtinymonster Jordach! will you record a video with me?
17:15 Hobodium I think my company has officially gone crazy. I was just told to basically invalidate all orders in the system.
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17:19 cities theres a pumpkin in our dept
17:19 cities they can't think of how to decorate it
17:19 cities so I printed out a giant printout of Justin Biebers face and taped it on
17:20 realtinymonster lol
17:20 ElectronLibre It's very scary. '_'
17:20 Hobodium Did you make it a low quality jpeg first, then blow it up?
17:20 cities lol I should have
17:20 cities beware..LOW RES JUSTIN BIEBER
17:21 * ElectronLibre screams by thinking about this.
17:21 cities I should take a pic of it and post it
17:21 cities I am hearing screams down the hallway
17:22 realtinymonster lol
17:22 ElectronLibre ^^
17:23 PenguinDad xD
17:23 cities beware.....in the dark....teenage pop sensations in low resolution
17:24 shadowzone XD
17:25 Hobodium Do they make glow in the dark printer ink?
17:25 Hobodium I feel like that should be a thing
17:27 realtinymonster Whoever wants to record with me, send me a contact request on skype! username: zsoltisawesome
17:27 realtinymonster bye!
17:28 shadowzone I don't have skype.
17:28 Krock ^
17:28 Krock I've IRC and teamviewer, that's enough
17:28 Hobodium Tox or something else really needs to pick up steam so skype can be replaced anyways
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17:31 RumiaGloop butts
17:31 shadowzone o.O
17:31 sfan5 butts
17:31 Krock $.$
17:31 shadowzone What the heck.
17:31 sfan5 butts
17:32 sfan5 are butts that weird?
17:32 shadowzone Yep.
17:32 * sfan5 curls up to RumiaGloop's lap
17:32 * RumiaGloop pets sfan :D
17:32 * sfan5 purrs
17:32 shadowzone o.O
17:33 * sfan5 rolls around near RumiaGloop
17:33 * shadowzone goes to grab some catnip
17:33 shadowzone Here sfan5
17:33 * RumiaGloop tickles sfan5's belly
17:33 * sfan5 curls up to RumiaGloop's lap
17:33 RumiaGloop hehe ^^
17:33 * shadowzone hands sfan5 some catnip
17:33 * PenguinDad wgets up to shadowzone's lap
17:34 * sfan5 licks RumiaGloop
17:34 * shadowzone pets PenguinDad
17:34 * RumiaGloop pets sfan5's head
17:34 * sfan5 purrs like a cat
17:34 cities ...
17:34 shadowzone cities, we all think we are cats.
17:34 * shadowzone meows
17:35 cities oh no
17:35 Hobodium think?
17:35 shadowzone *are
17:35 sfan5 >~cities@Im.12.what.the.hell.is.irc.so
17:35 sfan5 tfw
17:35 cities let me tell you something
17:35 shadowzone My mistake
17:35 * sfan5 hugs cities
17:35 Hobodium http://tilde.club/~cat/ that's more like it
17:35 cities you are not a cat
17:35 cities lol
17:35 shadowzone I am too.
17:35 cities you like my vhost
17:35 shadowzone I do.
17:35 shadowzone Makes mine seem dumb.
17:36 cities I love it it fits me
17:36 shadowzone Im.12.what.the.hell.is.irc.so <--- you are 12?
17:36 sfan5 lolö
17:37 sfan5
17:37 Calinou which is better for privacy, vhosts or cloak?
17:37 shadowzone ©¸©
17:37 Calinou and how do you get a vhost anyway?
17:37 * RumiaGloop snuggles sfan5
17:37 Jordach mew
17:37 * sfan5 snuggles with RumiaGloop
17:37 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/oHf9rTCds8z-.jpg mmmm dat view
17:38 shadowzone Jordach, that is awesome.
17:38 cities I'm not 12
17:38 * sfan5 curls up to cities's lap
17:38 shadowzone Is there someone in that car.
17:38 cities but what the hell is something
17:38 cities is more like me
17:38 shadowzone Or do I need to clean my screen.
17:38 cities Calinou, shell provider
17:38 sfan5 Calinou: basically: own a server and set the reverse dns
17:39 * shadowzone purrs
17:39 * shadowzone curls up into Jordach's lap
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17:42 RiZom-91 Hi!
17:42 shadowzone Hi.
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17:43 RiZom-91 Can someone tell me if it is possible to get the collisionbox of an object return by minetest.get_objects_inside_radius(pos, radius) please ?
17:43 kaeza Hi?
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17:44 VanessaE hi
17:44 RiZom-91 returned* I've tried obj.collisionbox[5] and it was a nil value
17:44 kaeza RiZom-91, try obj:get_luaentity().collisionbox
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17:49 sfan5 Krock: only actual cats pls
17:50 Krock sfan5, uh thx. please tell me that next time before I extract all links
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17:51 karlexceed I asked this question last night, but didn't get an answer... Does anyone know if mt either 4.9 from the repos or 4.10 from the ppa on Ubuntu supports leveldb?
17:51 Krock why do you need leveldb?
17:51 RiZom-91 obj:get_luaentity().collisionbox return also a nil value :/
17:51 sfan5 wrong question, Krock
17:51 Krock sfan5, u say?
17:52 sfan5 karlexceed: if they depend on libleveldb they support leveldb
17:52 RiZom-91 anyway as my obj is always a player, i hardcoded the heigth of the object
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17:53 RiZom-91 so now line_of_sight can see me, even if I'm "hidden" behind a flower :)
17:54 karlexceed sfan5, I don't recall seeing it. And the fact that they error out when I try to load a world I migrated on windows should be enough of an answer, but it seems silly that they would be built without that support
17:54 sfan5 just build a version with leveldb yourself then
17:55 karlexceed Especially since running a server w leveldb seems so much faster
17:55 karlexceed How stable is mt if I cloned got right now?
17:55 RiZom-91 btw during my test i found out that we can sometimes walk throught fences
17:55 karlexceed git*
17:55 RiZom-91 is it a known problem ?
17:56 sfan5 karlexceed: the latest git is usually stable enough
17:57 karlexceed Okay, the reason I ask is because I'm trying to run a headless server where I hopefully don't have to touch it too often
17:57 sfan5 if not you can checkout 0.4.10
17:58 karlexceed I'll give it a shot after work tonight. If you see me later, you'll know how well it went ;)
17:58 Calinou karlexceed, I have builds that support LevelDB
17:58 Calinou if you really want pre-compiled
17:58 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=10239
17:58 Calinou 14.04 only
17:59 Calinou karlexceed, Git clones are rarely unstable (as in “broken”)
17:59 Calinou they are unstable as in “changing” though
17:59 karlexceed 64 bit? I'm running on server 14.04.1 x64
17:59 Calinou yes, 64 bits
18:00 karlexceed Thanks, I'll check it out! I think I will try to build it myself first but its good to finally find a solution
18:01 Calinou the build is about 2 weeks old right now
18:01 Calinou will be updated soon
18:03 karlexceed Am I correct in assuming most people run servers on windows?
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18:03 sfan5 no
18:04 sfan5 most people use linux for servers
18:04 karlexceed Him. It seems the documentation is sparse regarding it...
18:04 Calinou Windows servers on Minetest are a minority, yes
18:04 Calinou you can do it though, it's perfectly fine
18:04 karlexceed Hm*
18:04 Calinou performance will be OK
18:05 karlexceed Yeah no, I like my dedicated Ubuntu server box ;)
18:05 Sokomine anyone present with slower hardware (cpu!), a relatively recent version of mt, and no luajit compiled in? i'd like to get some feedback on performance
18:06 karlexceed Okay, gotta run, thanks for the answers everyone!
18:06 Sokomine (performance regarding my mg_villages mod vs. plain mapgen)
18:06 Krock karlexceed, this guy <-- uses windows for his server
18:07 VanessaE Sokomine: how's it behaving alongside plants_lib, still working out okay?
18:07 Sokomine VanessaE: it's far faster than plants_lib :-) at least with luajit. so far, it seems to work fine...
18:07 VanessaE heh
18:07 Krock Sokomine, this one? https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
18:08 Sokomine the last villages using plantslib where quite satisfying
18:08 VanessaE good deal
18:08 blaise :)
18:08 Sokomine krock: yes, still that one. but i need a tester without luajit so that i may get some feedback for worst case
18:09 Sokomine VanessaE: i still think plantslib needs optimization. most likely by using less generalization. it is so beautiful...it's a shame that it still cooks cpus (even though it now cooks them more slowly, over a longer time, at a lower degree :-))
18:09 Calinou why disable LuaJIT?
18:09 Krock ^"worst case"
18:10 VanessaE Sokomine: it can't be made less generic, but it can be optimized a little more, as can some of its individual mods
18:10 Calinou Sokomine, your mod still crashes on load due to deprecated use of of default.grow_jungletree()
18:10 VanessaE but too much optimization will result in uglier landscapes that violate the plants_lib API.
18:10 Krock Calinou, I hope it doesn't get fixed
18:10 Krock ""fixed""
18:11 Sokomine VanessaE: it can be made less generic. almost all things can. it may be a lot of work, and it will then be more special and less general
18:11 Sokomine calinou: hmpf. forgot that one i'm afraid...
18:11 VanessaE Sokomine: plants_lib can't.  that's it's whole purpose is to be generic.
18:11 Sokomine question is...when did these grow-functions for trees and jungletrees first come into play? we had to add them on silvercrab as well
18:12 Krock Sokomine: http://pastebin.com/2bSvQskC
18:12 Sokomine VanessaE: individual plants can. yes, that's more work, and it will be less generic then, but i really see no other way. some plants are not going to change their needs over night...
18:14 * Krock licks sfan5
18:14 PenguinDad Krock: why?
18:14 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1732
18:14 Krock amaze
18:15 Sokomine krock: newest version?
18:15 Krock Sokomine, git, 2 minutes ago
18:16 Sokomine aah! so sfan5 finally posted the pull request :-)
18:16 * Sokomine orders a daily milk subscription for sfan5 to be delivered straight to the channel each day
18:16 * sfan5 meows
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18:22 MaskedPython Hi guys
18:22 sfan5 hi
18:22 PenguinDad <3 https://soundcloud.com/muzzydnb/​muzzy-monday-01-feat-splitbreed
18:23 VanessaE bbl
18:23 sfan5 <3 https://soundcloud.com/mons​tercat/noisestorm-sentinel
18:23 MaskedPython < sfan5> <3
18:23 MaskedPython dat looks funny
18:23 PenguinDad E> <3
18:24 PenguinDad ^ two hearts
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18:32 Sokomine Krock: added a check for that, though that value never ought to be nil. perhaps some other strange behaviour of windows builds...please update and try again
18:32 Krock oke
18:36 Krock Sokomine, updated the error log http://pastebin.com/Ze7YQYKE
18:37 Sokomine Krock: hm, yes. that same strange error we had from windows users before
18:38 Sokomine i'd really like to know what causes that....
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19:27 jojoa1997 Yo
19:27 kaeza
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19:31 Sokomine ~
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19:33 ElectronLibre bash: /home/Sokomine : is a directory
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19:34 Sokomine ElectronLibre: hm, could almost be :-)
19:36 * shadowzone ducks
19:36 shadowzone jojoa1997, is on..
19:36 jojoa1997 what
19:36 * PenguinDad cats
19:36 jojoa1997 shadowzone ♥
19:37 shadowzone Awwww nuts..
19:37 jojoa1997 i forgot
19:37 jojoa1997 but then you made me remember
19:37 * shadowzone wonder if jojoa1997 knows that she told her boyfriend about you.
19:37 shadowzone And he is kinda mad at you.
19:37 jojoa1997 I will never leave you
19:37 jojoa1997 shadowzone bring it on!
19:37 jojoa1997 I already am dating a girl who is dating me and and another guy
19:37 shadowzone Just leave me alone.
19:38 jojoa1997 though we are all related...IRC families are XD
19:38 jojoa1997 shadowzone ♥ in  a friendly non deeper way
19:38 shadowzone No we're not.
19:39 shadowzone There is no such thing as a IRC family.
19:39 jojoa1997 sec
19:39 paramat behave jojoa1997!
19:40 jojoa1997 what
19:40 jojoa1997 Please I wont attack anyone. I believe in only non phyiscal relationships anyways
19:40 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
19:40 * PenguinDad pets sfan5
19:40 * sfan5 purrs
19:41 * jojoa1997 offers sfan5 catnip
19:41 * ElectronLibre give sfan5 a fish. <°(((><
19:41 * sfan5 curls up to jojoa1997's lap
19:41 * sfan5 noms the fishy
19:41 jojoa1997 wait shadowzone is a girl!!
19:41 * jojoa1997 pets sfan5
19:41 shadowzone I am a girl.
19:41 ElectronLibre jojoa1997, what were you thinking?
19:42 jojoa1997 oh wait i knew that
19:42 jojoa1997 nvm i was thinking of someone else
19:42 jojoa1997 shadowzone irc family http://ecks.biz/91d298.png
19:42 jojoa1997 though im adopted
19:42 shadowzone o.O
19:42 * sfan5 meows at jojoa1997
19:43 * jojoa1997 waves feather
19:43 jojoa1997 shadowzone I am the only normal one int that tree
19:43 shadowzone Okay....
19:43 jojoa1997 which is kinda sad since i am wierd
19:43 shadowzone That is just weird.
19:44 jojoa1997 shadowzone what i said. Though i didnt know all those "relationships" until the pic was posted
19:44 shadowzone Okay..........
19:44 PenguinDad o.o
19:44 shadowzone I am confused.
19:45 shadowzone So Exio is dating who?
19:45 jojoa1997 :D
19:45 jojoa1997 Exio is dating amber
19:45 jojoa1997 and so am i
19:45 jojoa1997 kinda
19:45 shadowzone o.O
19:45 ElectronLibre ?_?
19:45 shadowzone And you /think/ you are dating me?
19:45 * ElectronLibre doesn't understand everything.
19:45 jojoa1997 no
19:45 ElectronLibre *anything
19:45 * jojoa1997 is not dating anyone
19:45 shadowzone Me neither.
19:45 * jojoa1997 didnt consent to that pic
19:46 shadowzone Oh.
19:46 * jojoa1997 wishes sfan5 was his cat in that picture
19:46 PenguinDad jojoa1997: in which channel does this family live? o_O
19:46 shadowzone So were you joking when you asked me to "marry" you this other day?
19:46 jojoa1997 yes
19:46 jojoa1997 of course
19:46 shadowzone Oh.
19:46 shadowzone Good.
19:46 * Calinou applauds
19:46 * sfan5 curls up to Calinou's lap
19:46 Calinou automatic?
19:46 jojoa1997 WHAT
19:47 jojoa1997 Amber is also dating peakaboo
19:47 jojoa1997 wtf is with that channel
19:47 Calinou glad to not be the only one who gets thrown around
19:47 shadowzone I dunno.
19:47 * jojoa1997 picks up Calinou
19:47 * shadowzone throws Calinou
19:47 * jojoa1997 catches Calinou
19:47 jojoa1997 sfan5 I CHOOSE YOU
19:47 sfan5 what
19:47 jojoa1997 sfan5 lick Calinou !
19:47 shadowzone Lol.
19:47 * sfan5 rolls around
19:47 jojoa1997 Use lick!
19:48 jojoa1997 awwww
19:48 shadowzone We are crazy here.
19:48 * jojoa1997 pets sfan5
19:48 * shadowzone picks up sfan5
19:48 * kaeza hugs Calinou
19:48 * sfan5 purrs
19:48 Amaz shadowzone, that we are!
19:48 * PenguinDad falls down the stairs
19:48 * ElectronLibre eat pop-corn watching todays's movie : jojoa1997 & shadowzone's adventures
19:48 jojoa1997 :D
19:49 kaeza I'm hugging a hug :3
19:49 jojoa1997 First we shall go to ##shadowempire and laugh at the nsfw that i am clueless about
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19:49 jojoa1997 hi kaeza
19:50 Calinou no thanks.
19:50 nyuszika7h hi Calinou
19:51 Calinou hi nyuszika7h :D
19:51 Calinou ban expires in 4 days, but I don't care
19:51 xnrand oh look it's Calinou
19:52 xnrand Calinou: omg i missed you <3
19:52 * sfan5 curls up to xnrand's lap
19:54 Calinou <jojoa1997> I already am dating a girl who is dating me and and another guy
19:54 Calinou you should be a French President
19:55 * xnrand circles this day in his calendar
19:55 Calinou http://ecks.biz/91d298.png
19:55 Calinou I'm not on it anymore
19:55 Calinou I was on the old one
19:55 jojoa1997 Calinou explain
19:55 ElectronLibre Rho, Calinou xD..
19:55 jojoa1997 I am clueless
19:56 xnrand jojoa1997 ur not european enough to get that joke
19:56 ElectronLibre Do you speak about François Hollande? ^^
19:56 Calinou ElectronLibre, oui :D
19:56 Calinou jojoa1997, I was Chiyo's brother on the old one ;)
19:56 jojoa1997 oh
19:56 Krock my friend called that dude "Fronsua Ollua"
19:57 xnrand Calinou: considering ecks is chiyo's dad, you'd need to be ecks' son and i'd understand if ecks disowned you ;)
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19:59 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
19:59 Miner_48er hi grog
19:59 shadowzone how thefamilygrog66.
19:59 ElectronLibre (If you don't understand Calinou's joke, type "François Hollande et Julie Gayet" in google, try to translate.)
19:59 ElectronLibre Hello thefamilygrog66.
19:59 thefamilygrog66 Would anyone care to test out my new Poké Ball mod on my server?
20:11 thefamilygrog66 Anybody interested in helping test a mod?
20:11 Krock thefamilygrog66, ip/address?
20:11 Krock nvm. familygrog.no-ip.org
20:11 Amaz thefamilygrog66, I will!
20:12 thefamilygrog66 cool, thanks
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20:13 Amaz Is it on your server?#
20:22 thefamilygrog66 Amaz, yes it is.
20:23 Amaz Okay,
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20:32 thefamilygrog66 Thanks for helping to test, Krock and Amaz
20:32 Krock np
20:36 Amaz No problem, great work!
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20:42 Krock sfan5, I don't think a low-prior label is needed for this saving feature
20:42 Krock it's very helpful for cases like redcrab's server
20:42 Krock but well, it seems to be online again
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21:00 Megaf [18:27:12] <realtinymonster> Whoever wants to record with me, send me a contact request on skype! username: zsoltisawesome
21:00 Megaf lol
21:00 Megaf I have IRC and Tox
21:01 kilbith_ Megaf: still have the issue with DRI2
21:01 Megaf And I already game him my server address and he is not there
21:01 * ElectronLibre hasn't got skype.. He told him to wait an hour :/..
21:01 Megaf kilbith_: not my fault
21:01 Megaf Raspbians fault
21:01 kilbith_ probably
21:02 Megaf lol, I just typed /teleport #Raspbian instead of /join #Raspbian
21:02 Amaz XD
21:02 kilbith_ I replaced the /opt/vc/lib to the usr/lib ones and it don't solve at all
21:02 Hobodium Did it work?
21:02 Megaf just clone the whole https://github.com/Megaf/MinetestPi-Raspbian.git
21:02 Megaf its already compiled
21:03 kilbith_ I know, that what I did
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21:33 deasanta whats the speed like on the raspberry?
21:35 Hobodium Amazing, I'm sure
21:35 deasanta :)
21:36 deasanta some mintest fun - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/​1389294/minetest/headless-play-1.mp4
21:36 ElectronLibre O_o
21:37 * ElectronLibre remember the king Louis XVI...
21:38 * deasanta remembers chucky doll
21:38 * Hobodium occasionally remembers what he had for breakfast
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21:40 * PenguinDad remembers that he shouldn't remember
21:40 Calinou bye
21:40 ElectronLibre Chucky doll *-*...
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21:55 Hobodium Today I have learned that OSX has the "say" command available on the command line. If I ever have to make anything cross platform I know what I am going to abuse
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22:32 ElectronLibre Bye everyone.
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23:45 kaeza *cricket*
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23:50 paramat *tumbleweed*
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