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00:00 Vazon VanessaE: are you around, i am need of your expertise
00:01 VanessaE Vazon: I am here for a short while
00:01 Vazon ok
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00:19 LemonLake hair is done, now gotta polish it then do the face
00:23 jojoa1997 hi
00:24 VanessaE hi
00:25 fu-fu ho
00:26 jojoa1997 so
00:26 jojoa1997 ~12 hours later
00:26 jojoa1997 I still havent built Minetest
00:26 jojoa1997 and i never got an error!
00:27 VanessaE you didn't say the right incantations, and you didn't use the right magic ingredients :)
00:27 jojoa1997 It is called life VanessaE
00:27 jojoa1997 something we all dont have ;)
00:27 VanessaE hah
00:27 jojoa1997 well now that i have the freeminer script goinh
00:28 jojoa1997 time to try msys
00:28 bulletrulz god damnit i hate pokemon logic
00:28 jojoa1997 why
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00:28 crystaldynamic Hey :)
00:29 bulletrulz jojoa1997,  i cant hit with bite when im paralized but i can takle
00:29 bulletrulz lolwut
00:29 crystaldynamic who's online
00:29 crystaldynamic Bye
00:29 bulletrulz lol
00:29 VanessaE had you been using Linux, you'd have had 144 compiles done by now :)
00:29 jojoa1997 bulletrulz that isnt pokemon
00:30 jojoa1997 it is called murpheys law
00:30 jojoa1997 VanessaE nah
00:30 bulletrulz lol.... how can i tackle when im paralized
00:30 bulletrulz I CANT MOVE
00:30 jojoa1997 my computer isnt a beasted as yours
00:30 jojoa1997 bulletrulz it is all in the head
00:30 jojoa1997 oh
00:30 bulletrulz but i would be able to bite. because i can use my mouth
00:30 jojoa1997 bulletrulz your upper body is paralyzed
00:30 jojoa1997 but you can still use your legs
00:31 bulletrulz true but i noticed it changes every battle
00:31 bulletrulz its like one battle i cant do ember
00:31 bulletrulz then the next i can im like wtf
00:31 jojoa1997 what game version?>
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00:32 bulletrulz firered
00:32 jojoa1997 i miss that
00:32 crystaldynamic Hey
00:32 jojoa1997 my mom sold my gameboy advanced for gameboy sp
00:32 bulletrulz ikr
00:32 jojoa1997 then gameboy sp for ds
00:32 bulletrulz emulators
00:32 jojoa1997 then ds for 3ds
00:32 bulletrulz ...
00:32 bulletrulz they work good
00:32 jojoa1997 I WANT MY GAMEBOY GAMES
00:32 bulletrulz use em lol
00:32 jojoa1997 and no emulators
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00:33 bulletrulz why not xD
00:33 jojoa1997 stealing
00:33 jojoa1997 you would be stealing a copy of pokemon
00:33 bulletrulz have u bought fire red before
00:33 bulletrulz ?
00:33 jojoa1997 yeah but i she sold them
00:33 jojoa1997 so i no longer own it
00:33 bulletrulz ehh..... you owned it at one time
00:33 bulletrulz making it legal to have backups of the game
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00:34 bulletrulz legally putting you in the right
00:34 crystaldynamic Hi
00:34 jojoa1997 yeah but the copy i would get is not my backup
00:34 jojoa1997 also it was sold
00:34 jojoa1997 the ownership was removed if speaking technically
00:34 bulletrulz well then agian who cares its not like the fbi is gonna just jump in there and kill you
00:34 bulletrulz and btw its not illigal to own a stolen copy
00:35 bulletrulz its illigal to distribute it
00:35 bulletrulz you can download all you want
00:35 jojoa1997 still
00:35 jojoa1997 downloading an illegal copy is still stealing
00:35 jojoa1997 also it is called i follow my own ethics
00:35 bulletrulz its not even a big deal
00:35 bulletrulz xD
00:35 bulletrulz mojang said pirate minecraft one time
00:36 jojoa1997 um
00:36 bulletrulz artist of music enjoy leaks
00:36 jojoa1997 i am pretty sure that is wrong
00:36 bulletrulz they actully like when thier music leaks
00:36 jojoa1997 getting 20 bootleg games > 1 song leak
00:37 jojoa1997 and yeah cause there income depends on the song getting popular
00:37 jojoa1997 but i bet if everyone leaked all their albums and then no one bought the music then the artist has no income :P
00:38 bulletrulz its not stealing unless you feel like its stealing
00:38 bulletrulz and btw distrubute as in selling
00:38 jojoa1997 !GOOGLE
00:43 bulletrulz i think of it this way
00:43 bulletrulz theyre gonna make money on newer games anyway
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00:51 LemonLake guys
00:51 LemonLake i think it's done
00:51 shadowzone What is done?
00:51 LemonLake my minim of tamako market
00:52 shadowzone Oh.
00:54 LemonLake and there goes explorer...
00:54 LemonLake should really get my linux fixed
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01:01 GTRsdk today feels like a Minetest day
01:01 VanessaE good :)
01:01 shadowzone Yeah good.
01:01 LemonLake meh
01:01 LemonLake good i guess
01:02 bulletrulz ff7 is only 50% done D:
01:05 GTRsdk So about plants... any in stock MT yet?
01:08 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qSiFSNeZzLVM.png
01:08 LemonLake how does it look?
01:15 VanessaE very good, LemonLake
01:15 VanessaE GTRsdk: plants such as?
01:16 VanessaE in the stock game, there are a couple types of grass, dry shrubs, cotton, wheat, and two types of trees
01:16 VanessaE has been for a long time
01:16 Exio \o/
01:17 bulletrulz what would you guys say the best emulator for ps1 is?
01:18 Exio isn't there an opensource one?
01:18 bulletrulz many
01:18 bulletrulz i think i might use either pcsx or psx
01:19 fu-fu Pacman says pcsxr
01:21 VanessaE ePSXe
01:21 VanessaE that's the one I used to use.
01:21 VanessaE always worked well
01:22 LemonLake i can't decide if the background + shadows are correct
01:22 LemonLake i want it to be perfect before it goes to da
01:22 VanessaE LemonLake: it's da.  it'll look better than half the stuff on there :P
01:23 bulletrulz brb
01:26 fu-fu K, so, I'm trying to figure out pointed_thing and minetest.get_pointed_thing_position
01:26 fu-fu And I seem to be missing fundmental about this pointed_thing thing.
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01:29 VanessaE fu-fu: pointed_thing.under is the position of the thing you're pointing at.  pointed_thing.above is the position of the space between your cursor and that thing.
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01:30 fu-fu minetest.register_chatcommand("pointedpos", .... pos=minetest.get_pointed_th​in_position(pointed_thing, above)
01:31 hoodedice !dev
01:31 Inocudom Does anybody here know how to configure Timidity to use a soundfont on Linux Mint? The packages version of Timidity?
01:31 hoodedice ...
01:33 hoodedice Someone has been using my laptop
01:33 hoodedice Just noticed Internet explorer was open
01:34 fu-fu Ew.
01:37 hoodedice Here is a motivational thing for minetest modders: "If you wrote even a single line of code, you are doing much more work than what hoodedice does in a month"
01:41 GTRsdk VanessaE, Do they grow naturally?
01:41 GTRsdk I mean the grass/wheat
01:41 VanessaE GTRsdk: the grasses and shrubs do.
01:41 VanessaE the wheat and cotton have to be farmed.  you can get seeds from hoeing the grasses
01:42 hoodedice "plowing"
01:42 fu-fu VanessaE: If I use pos = minetest.get_pointed_thing_position(pointed_thing, above) that's correct right?
01:42 hoodedice The word you are looking for is "plowing"
01:43 hoodedice fu-fu: Best http://dev.minetest.net/pointed_thing doc ever
01:43 VanessaE fu-fu: I'm not sure about that particualr call
01:43 LemonLake im off then
01:43 LemonLake goodnight everyone
01:43 VanessaE night LemonLake
01:44 hoodedice night LemonLake
01:44 fu-fu hoodedice: but what I did would be correct right?
01:45 hoodedice Don't ask me, haven't coded since July 11th
01:45 fu-fu I havn't coded since 2010, except this one function, that doesn't work >:
01:45 hoodedice what are you? a 15 year old, or a non software-oriented adult?
01:46 * hoodedice suddenly feels that he has been rude and profusely apologizes for it
01:46 fu-fu 19 year old I think now.
01:46 fu-fu So I guess kinda  both.
01:46 hoodedice both is good
01:47 hoodedice both is always good
01:47 fu-fu And no worries, I'm probably being stupid to provoke any rude-ness.
01:47 hoodedice no no
01:47 hoodedice I haven't started even coding half-tame codes yet
01:48 hoodedice So I'm just as much noob as... maybe Inocudom (pun intended)
01:49 hoodedice In any case, I would think that to be correct
01:49 fu-fu But, yeah, I used to program in Gmod in jr. high school (middle school, grade 7-9), and then did one class in HS, and got bored as it was super basic programming, and I could do it all with maths anyways.
01:49 fu-fu Aand havn't touched programming except to make my math class easyer in TI-basic.
01:50 hoodedice you program your calc? Amateur
01:50 fu-fu Oh, forgot the formula that makes you not have to do trial and error for an hour? Your calculator can do trail and error a lot faster!
01:51 fu-fu Idk, I make conways game of life.
01:51 hoodedice Real mathematicians use the exam sheet as a tally based calculator
01:51 fu-fu Albeit, it would take something like two months for a single frame to progress.
01:51 fu-fu made*
01:52 hoodedice Why, I erased an entire solution on my first Math test FOUR times, wasting about 40 minutes on a problem that should take only 10 minutes
01:52 hoodedice That is a mark of a true mathematician
01:53 fu-fu Congradulations, I'd have given up after the 2nd try, put C, and have had a chance to complete the rest of the test. Then maybe come back to it, if I'm not a lazy bastard.
01:54 hoodedice Wait
01:54 hoodedice scantron thingies
01:54 hoodedice Are you in college or what
01:54 fu-fu Anyways, the thing is, I'm using that function in a chatcommand.... Aaand I honestly don't see how that could work without it needing an entity that is pointing at things. (It just returns nil.)
01:54 fu-fu It was in HS.
01:55 hoodedice okay, that is understandable
01:55 hoodedice I think you should pasta your entire code to hastebin or gist
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01:55 fu-fu Took a gap year, and have sucsesfully forgotten a ton. Including how to make coherent sentences in english.
01:56 hoodedice Don't worry
01:56 fu-fu which is my only langauge, which is sad.
01:56 hoodedice I took a gap year too haha
01:56 hoodedice I could've started college when I was 17
01:56 hoodedice But I was a douchebag in HS
01:57 hoodedice pasta the link here to your gist or haste
01:58 fu-fu http://pastebin.com/kZmvauys
02:00 hoodedice I suck at this
02:00 hoodedice But I have a weird idea
02:00 fu-fu I couldve too, but I'd be living off loans.. which i'd rather not do. I also didn't know what I wanted to do,  and was disorganised. Now I'm doing comsci, am a little less disorganised, and know people arn't my thing.
02:00 fu-fu Do share,
02:00 hoodedice Try putting curly { } brackets around the content of the second pos
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02:01 grendal_prime_ grrr
02:01 hoodedice Living off your hard work is always better than living off loans
02:02 grendal_prime_ ...well...i mean if your conscious bothers you ya.
02:02 hoodedice ...
02:02 hoodedice wat?
02:02 fu-fu Not being in student dept for 15 years if(when) it doesn't work bothers me.
02:02 grendal_prime_ yep it sucks. dont do it
02:03 grendal_prime_ im getting my degree now..im 46 this year
02:03 grendal_prime_ im getting my degree in something i have done for over 20 years.
02:03 grendal_prime_ its going to cost me 6 grand
02:04 grendal_prime_ after i have the degree i can make that in less than 2 months.
02:04 grendal_prime_ that being disposable cash
02:05 grendal_prime_ so..i have a question..about the...creative setting...
02:06 grendal_prime_ creative mode.
02:06 fu-fu To put that in comparison, 15 years is %79 of my life, which is more than I remember anyways. So to me, effectivly my entire life again, but older, and worse off.
02:06 grendal_prime_ what are you going to school for?
02:06 hoodedice what is the question?
02:06 fu-fu Comsci
02:07 grendal_prime_ and you have been doing this for how long already?
02:07 hoodedice Comsci is more weird than CIS
02:07 hoodedice (sounds more weird than)
02:07 fu-fu Just Jr. high maybe 2 years, about 5 years ago now
02:07 grendal_prime_ you are saying computer science correct?
02:07 fu-fu Yes
02:07 grendal_prime_ ok. particular focus?
02:08 hoodedice grendal, if you see the logs, fu-fu is just 19 years old
02:08 fu-fu Programming,
02:08 fu-fu Genreal com-sci.
02:08 grendal_prime_ hold on
02:08 hoodedice ^Indicates mind hasn't yet been made up
02:09 fu-fu I.. don't really have one... hence why I'm hesitant to go ruin what's effectivly another time span of my life as I know it with student dept.
02:09 grendal_prime_ http://www.wgu.edu/blogpost/h​ow-become-computer-programmer
02:09 hoodedice You have two years
02:09 hoodedice Enough time to make up your mind
02:09 grendal_prime_ that college is 3 grand a semester.
02:09 grendal_prime_ its all done from home.
02:09 hoodedice fu-fu is already in college
02:10 fu-fu Uni, 6.6K/year
02:10 fu-fu 4 years
02:10 hoodedice That is a lot
02:10 hoodedice Really
02:10 fu-fu 2 years already worked and saved for
02:10 fu-fu 1 year from scholarships
02:10 hoodedice Studying in 'Murica be a pain for Muricans, I see
02:11 grendal_prime_ right but if you work harder you can finish earlyer
02:11 fu-fu Canada actually.
02:11 hoodedice Ow
02:11 fu-fu grendal_prime_: Yeup.
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02:11 hoodedice Didn't know even Canada was a bitch to its students
02:11 fu-fu It's less-so than america I think, but still kinda  bitchy.
02:12 hoodedice This guy I know goes on and on about how "academies" are so free
02:12 hoodedice and better than US unis
02:12 hoodedice wait, did you say 6.6K/year?
02:12 grendal_prime_ the wgu is for people who are familar with their focus(if you have been working in a field for some time) you do a sort of testout so you dont have to take classes you sho proficency in.  My 4 yEAR is going to be more like a year..maybe two at the most.
02:12 hoodedice lol,I read it as per semester
02:12 fu-fu $6600 /year, for two 4 course semesters
02:13 hoodedice That makes more sense; indeed better than US then haha
02:13 fu-fu grendal_prime_: Nice.
02:13 grendal_prime_ ya but my degree is in Information Technology in general..its the hardest one.
02:13 fu-fu hoodedice: Well, depending, there are ways to dump more money into it if you so choose that route.
02:13 hoodedice My college is among the more fair priced ones, and yet, citizens pay 4k/semester; 8k/year
02:14 grendal_prime_ the programming courses i think are much easyer...very focused.
02:15 grendal_prime_ so...wait 32,000 when your done..(roughly)?
02:16 fu-fu grendal_prime_: As it is, I'm just taking a general Computer science, pythong + java, and then physics and chem and sociolgy and philosphy because it's required for some reason... idk. I'm still very indecisive about the whole thing.
02:16 fu-fu grendal_prime_: For me, it's 26.4K of tuiton.
02:17 grendal_prime_ ya, well, not that im for accululating student debt but thats not to much to complain about honestly.
02:17 grendal_prime_ i know allot ofpeople that are way past the 100 grand line.
02:18 hoodedice See Ohio uni
02:18 grendal_prime_ they are like...Pharmaceutical chemists...couple of  programmers.
02:18 hoodedice Most people drop out at 100k
02:18 hoodedice its just a bubble, like the housing one in '08
02:18 fu-fu Yeah, but if I can't find work, or some shit happens, it gives me that much more not paying intrest to my debt cause I still have the debt.
02:19 grendal_prime_ dude...look into that college...you only have to pay by the 6 month term.
02:19 grendal_prime_ and you can take a placement test at the beginning...if you score high, they just cut those requirements...(pass you basically)
02:20 fu-fu Idk, I'm very much "Don't pay intrest, it's you just giving money to whomever, because you didn't think this through."
02:20 grendal_prime_ you take the same cert tests you take in any other college.
02:21 fu-fu Nice, I'll have to keep that about.
02:22 grendal_prime_ thats what i mean...you come up with 3 grand...scholarship..whatever, for 6 months take the corses, then save up another 3 grand.  when it comes time to continue, you either continue or take a break..or you get hired in the mean time.
02:22 grendal_prime_ they are transferable credits im sure.
02:23 grendal_prime_ their enrolement councelor worked with me for 3 months...i didnt pay anything for that.
02:24 grendal_prime_ i just took my second test it was coledge mathmatics.. it covered everything from basic addition through probability and statistics.
02:24 grendal_prime_ in one test.
02:25 grendal_prime_ I got a 87 % on the test.
02:25 grendal_prime_ took 6 weeks.
02:26 grendal_prime_ I have another algebra and one more finite math course..but thats next term.
02:26 grendal_prime_ all the study materials are online...ALL OF THEM
02:27 hoodedice ...
02:27 grendal_prime_ thier courses are built around a min 20 hour week
02:28 grendal_prime_ if you put in 40 a week you cut your time in half.
02:29 grendal_prime_ they have online coucelors, phone support math hotline, weekly chechup calls with a student mentor...teacher mentors for every class, weminars on the topics you are studying
02:29 grendal_prime_ web confrences where you get to voice questions or type them.
02:30 grendal_prime_ its the coolest thing ive ever worked with dude.
02:30 grendal_prime_ its like...jetsons college   its allot like all the higher learning stuff you see in future movies.  Im not making this shit up.
02:35 fu-fu Very impressive, I'll make sure to add it to my options for education.
02:36 grendal_prime_ we could be college roomates...like from our own rooms
02:36 grendal_prime_ awkward...
02:36 grendal_prime_ hehehe
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02:38 cg72 hello kaeza
02:43 Vazon is it possible to generate a map on v7 then switch 2 v6 later?
02:46 cg72 Vazon: yes but where the new chunks gen in v6 there will be a bad edge
02:46 cg72 really bad
02:48 Vazon thats fine, idk because i jsut tried and i still got v7 but just the blank v7 stone
02:48 fu-fu grendal_prime_: xD
02:48 grendal_prime_ ?
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02:48 cg72 on v7 you need a mod to define the bioms and do the dirt
02:49 grendal_prime_ that was for fu-fu
02:49 bulletrulz bacl
02:49 Vazon yes i know i did i removed it
02:50 Vazon then switch mg_name in the config to v6
02:50 grendal_prime_ whats up fu-fu?
02:50 grendal_prime_ oh the roomate line ya
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02:57 fu-fu grendal_prime_: Yeah, roomate line.
02:58 grendal_prime_ ya...well just keep in mind i would be a kick ass roomate even if it just was virtual roomate.  Ive been to college already once..and im 45..ive done it all...im just doing the fun stuff over and over again. hehehe
03:00 grendal_prime_ I ask my wife today..."you gonna keep me around when im old and obnoxious?"...she looked at me "You mean older and MORE obnoxious?   I know for a fact you have hit the wall already its all down hill from here buddy!"
03:01 cg72 only down hill after you get saggy nuts and man bobs lol
03:03 grendal_prime_ well things are falling apart..but not those..the secrete to those is marry rich..and 6-10 years younger.
03:03 grendal_prime_ you got to keep that equipment in shape..
03:03 grendal_prime_ anyway...so by the way guys i would like to take this opportunity to tell you HOW MUCH MY KIDS ARE LOVING THIS GAME.
03:04 Miner_48er great
03:04 cg72 mine to thats why i have like 5 servers rotf
03:04 hoodedice Don't tell here
03:04 hoodedice Make like, a forum post or something
03:04 grendal_prime_ Dauther is on the 52 inch entertainment system and bother is on his laptop they are building their dream house..brothers room is the size of a football field
03:04 hoodedice bbl
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03:05 grendal_prime_ The are working on the same house and not trying to kill each other. Even my wife was like..."OK let them play the damn thing all day if they get along."
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03:07 cg72 my 6yo girl surprises me as she builds better than my 8yo stepson
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03:17 fu-fu I.. built.. in minetest.. a shitty house.
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03:21 Kazimir Hello!
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03:22 fu-fu Hi
03:37 bulletrulz damnit i wanna gaming pc so bad
03:39 GTRsdk I built gaming pcs for under $400
03:39 hmmmm PC gaming is all class.
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03:56 fu-fu bad argument #-1 to 'place_node' (string expected, got nil)
03:56 fu-fu what?
03:56 fu-fu nvm got it
04:03 GTRsdk I'd recommend starting with an AMD HD5750 (Diamond) if you are building a cheap first-time gaming machine
04:03 GTRsdk less than $50 and is a good GPU
04:03 GTRsdk I use mine, but I pencil modded it :D
04:04 GTRsdk so it runs more like a HD5770 :D
04:04 GTRsdk actually I think it is almost the speed of a HD5830
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05:39 bulletrulz hmm
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05:48 GTRsdk thinking about running a Minetest server on my VPS
05:49 GTRsdk Is the goal still to make Minetest a complete game of its own, or rather a game engine?
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05:57 grendal_prime_ whats a vps?
06:02 GTRsdk Virtual Private Server
06:02 GTRsdk ah he left already :(
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06:42 john_minetest Hi
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06:44 john_minetest That's a tractor starting and putting in gear, driving (changing gears 2 times) and stopping. Then being switched off.
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06:48 john_minetest http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi​a/commons/b/b4/LLNL_BGL_Diagram.png
06:52 * sfan5 licks john_minetest
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06:52 john_minetest The world's fastest computer runs Linux developed by the "National University of Defense Technology". And it does stuff for the gouvernment. So probably simulates bombs.
06:52 john_minetest Number two seems to do actual scientific stuff.
06:53 john_minetest Number 3 runs nuclear tests.
06:53 GTRsdk Yeah simulating bombs
06:53 john_minetest So cool stuff could be done with that power. But they simulate weapons.
06:53 GTRsdk to find better ways to kill us :(
06:58 john_minetest As if they would ever use their nukes
06:58 john_minetest They let them stand in bunkers.
06:59 john_minetest They spend billions on nukes. They have to replace the warhead quite often. And a new warhead isn't cheap.
06:59 john_minetest So useless.
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07:01 john_minetest They should use their calculation power and money for calculating protein folding.
07:01 john_minetest That's something that has to be researched. Really important research.
07:01 john_minetest But maybe they think: "As soon as we launched our rockets, it doesn't matter any more.
07:01 john_minetest "
07:01 bulletrulz MAY THESE FALSE FOLLOWERS BE BANISHED TO THE ENTERNAL BLACK ABYSS SHREK HAS CREATED JUST FOR THEM! WE MUST FOLLOW THE SHRIBLE TO THE LETTER OR YOU WILL BE SWIPED ASIDE BY SHREKS MIGHT FIST AS A FILTHY FARQUAD! WHEN THE TIME COMES HE WILL KNOW WHO IS A TRUE FOLLOWER! WHEN THAT TIME COMES WE MUST PLUCK THE WEEDS FROM THE FRUIT AND THROW THOSE WEEDS ALONG WITH THESE FALSE FOLLOWERS INTO THE FLAMES OF THE ETERNAL ABYSE! Shrek is love, shrek is life.
07:02 john_minetest The twins of Mammon quarrelled. Their warring plunged the world into a new darkness, and the beast abhorred the darkness. So it began to move swiftly, and grew more powerful, and went forth and multiplied. And the beasts brought fire and light to the darkness.
07:02 john_minetest from The Book of Mozilla, 15:1
07:02 bulletrulz SHREK IS THE REAL GOD
07:03 john_minetest No. The flying spagetti monster is the real god.
07:03 bulletrulz What do you guys prefer firefox or chrome
07:03 bulletrulz NO FUCK THAT NIGGA HE AINT BOUT THAT SHREK LIFE
07:04 bulletrulz my headphones got super bass music is the shit
07:05 bulletrulz like when we were children by megosh is all like duh duh duh the drums
07:06 john_minetest bulletrulz: Please watch your language.
07:06 bulletrulz john_minetest, im sorry brah
07:07 bulletrulz im just so g i gotta say dem words
07:07 bulletrulz lol
07:07 bulletrulz nah jk
07:07 bulletrulz im a n00b
07:08 john_minetest Top 500 supercomputer OS: | Linux – 485 | Unix – 12 | Windows – 2 | Mixed – 1 |
07:09 bulletrulz MIXED? lol how do you have a mixed os
07:09 bulletrulz like winux
07:11 john_minetest I wonder how much they spend on the look of the supercomputers. They got all those blinky lights and cool panels. But on the other hand, if you spend millions on a computer, a few panels aren't that much.
07:11 bulletrulz lol
07:11 bulletrulz dude i could probaly play minecraft on that
07:12 bulletrulz *minecraft requires 1111 ghz processer
07:12 bulletrulz damn
07:12 bulletrulz and 1tb ram
07:12 bulletrulz poo
07:13 john_minetest I could compile gcc in a few milliseconds.
07:14 bulletrulz wow... still cant run minecraft
07:14 bulletrulz jk lol
07:14 bulletrulz i want a super computer so i can play a ps2 emulator
07:14 * bulletrulz acts dumb
07:15 john_minetest Hmmmmmm... does gcc and make support that? "make -j84096" ?
07:16 bulletrulz a gaming super computer cost 130$ :O
07:20 john_minetest "super computer"
07:20 bulletrulz lol its just got the same nvideo card as a supercomputer
07:20 john_minetest super computer means "the fastest computer of their time"
07:23 bulletrulz lol yeah true
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07:28 nman3600 MINETESTBOT NOOOO!!!!!
07:28 nman3600 She's dead!
07:29 bulletrulz R.I.P MinetestBot  2012-2014
07:29 nman3600 She's always dying!
07:29 bulletrulz she we be dearly missed
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07:32 bulletrulz nope shes gone
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07:35 sfan5 john_minetest: yes, make supports that
07:35 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
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07:35 bulletrulz mineTEST
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07:39 bulletrulz time to play some  super mario 64
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07:52 bulletrulz god damnit mario
07:57 * sfan5 licks Calinou
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08:00 Calinou adding metal sounds to ore blocks
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10:14 fling What are the best mods for map generation?
10:15 sfan5 just modifying the map generation or different mapgens?
10:15 fling I want mountains and snow and cool caverns and everything
10:15 fling and weather ;P
10:15 sfan5 how about mg?
10:15 sfan5 !g minetest mod mg
10:15 sfan5 MinetestBot!
10:15 MinetestBot sfan5!
10:15 sfan5 hm
10:15 sfan5 fling: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263
10:15 fling I don't know what is the difference -> 'just modifying the map generation or different mapgens?'
10:15 MinetestBot urllib.error.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno -2] Name or service not known> (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/urllib/request.py", line 1235, in do_open)
10:16 PenguinDad sfan5: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtmhVBSIIAAmozi.jpg
10:16 sfan5 fling: modifying the map generation would be just adding e.g. pyramids (pyramids mod), different mapgen makes the world look completly different (mg mod, watershed mod, ....)
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10:17 fling ohh ok
10:17 fling sfan5: mg looks ok, thanks ;>
10:17 * fling is looking at watershed
10:18 sfan5 fling: saw this overview map? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/feWgkU3KIwni.png
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10:19 fling sfan5: yes, it is mg
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10:42 fling sfan5: haha I have just enabled watershed and I like it!
10:44 fling sfan5: and looks like I need to create new world
10:45 * fling just found tons of mese blocks above 0 on the border between generators :P
10:48 fling mese blocks on the floating islands :<
10:50 fling sfan5: generation is too slow.
10:50 fling will redis help to speedup generation?
10:50 sfan5 do you use luajit?
10:50 sfan5 if you already do there is nothing you can do to speed it up
10:50 sfan5 redis is most likely not help
10:51 * fling is not using luajit
10:51 PenguinDad ^ there's your problem
10:51 fling [watershed] chunk minp (528 -32 128) [watershed] 2671 ms
10:52 fling umm
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10:52 fling so I have lua installed
10:52 fling do I need to add luajit so they will work together?
10:52 fling is not luajit a replacement for lua but just a compiler?
10:52 sfan5 it replaces lua
10:53 fling ok
10:53 * fling is building things…
10:57 * fling is now using luajit
10:57 Calinou finally
10:57 Calinou I use it since day 1 :P
10:57 Calinou it can easily be 3 times faster
10:58 fling it is now running faster
11:00 fling sfan5: is watershed compatible with all these tree mods?
11:00 fling btw what about biomes?
11:00 sfan5 fling: I'm not very sure
11:00 sfan5 you could try.
11:02 fling 18:02:18: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: not enough memory
11:02 fling doh!
11:05 fling http://bpaste.net/show/515428/
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11:05 root____ wow hi
11:05 fling Chippy1337: Hello.
11:06 Chippy1337 Hey
11:06 Chippy1337 how are you this fine day
11:06 fling 18:02:18: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: not enough memory
11:07 PenguinDad fling: for some reason some mod uses moe than 1GB
11:07 PenguinDad *more
11:07 Chippy1337 let me sync up my irssi config
11:07 Chippy1337 second
11:13 sfan5 PenguinDad: you mod uses moe?
11:13 sfan5 +r
11:14 fling just joined the game with an empty world and got 18:13:39: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: not enough memory
11:14 sfan5 how much RAM do you have?
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11:16 rewt_ hi again
11:16 sfan5 no
11:16 rewt_ what?
11:16 sfan5 !ban *@daddy.violates.me
11:16 sfan5 !kick rewt_
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11:17 john_minetest meldrian! All hail meldrian!
11:17 sfan5 o/ meldrian
11:17 john_minetest :D
11:17 meldrian wrong channel guys
11:18 meldrian ^^
11:18 john_minetest Oh, right
11:18 sfan5 we like you here too
11:18 meldrian aaaww, that's nice
11:18 PenguinDad sfan5: my mod doesn't use a powerful, 8-bit clean, console text editor
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11:18 john_minetest I found a way to list all files and dirs in the current folder with their full paths!
11:18 sfan5 PenguinDad: I was asking whether your mod uses moe
11:18 john_minetest pwd | xargs -I pwd find pwd -maxdepth 1
11:18 sfan5 uh
11:18 sfan5 just do find .
11:19 PenguinDad sfan5: moe https://www.gnu.org/software/moe/moe.html
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11:23 fling sfan5: not much trees with watershed
11:23 fling sfan5: and I can't find any caverns
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11:24 * fling found 2 different types of trees
11:24 sfan5 fling: I personally haven't used watershed
11:24 fling sfan5: what about mg? :P
11:25 sfan5 caves
11:25 sfan5 pine trees, bushes in <I don't remember what biome it was>
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11:30 twoelk @fling, paramat uses own sets of biomes iirc. btw Inever found any naturaly spawning trees of moretrees in reverdev although the mod was installed . I could though plant them and they would grow.
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11:32 fling twoelk: I'm trying mg now
11:32 twoelk happy village searching
11:33 twoelk the landscape of paramat's mods can be breathtaking though
11:33 PenguinDad twoelk: you seem to always spawn in a village in mg
11:35 fling twoelk: died at 0,0.5,0 and spawned in a village :D
11:38 twoelk fling: seen this watershed flyover? http://c55.me/blog/?p=1624
11:46 fling not much different trees with mg :<
11:47 john_minetest watershed looks awesome
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11:51 fling john_minetest: but tree mods are not working
11:53 fling VanessaE: Hello.
11:53 PenguinDad would be cool if mgv5 would get added back one day
11:53 fling VanessaE: are you awesome tree mods working with mg? -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263
11:55 PenguinDad only rubber trees from moretrees spawn iirc
11:56 VanessaE they could possibly work with mg but I dunno if anyone's ever used mg with moretrees/plants_liv
11:56 fling doh
11:56 VanessaE lib*
11:57 fling VanessaE: I have just tried and not much trees
11:57 fling vines are working btw
11:57 VanessaE trees spawn as saplings by default.
11:57 fling VanessaE: but I have not seen any big trees
11:57 VanessaE to reduce mapgen lag
11:57 fling ohhh
11:58 fling VanessaE: what world genarator mod are you using?
11:58 VanessaE fling: I'm not.
11:59 VanessaE plants_lib relies on whatever mapgen you use normally
11:59 VanessaE (I usually use mapgen v6)
12:00 PenguinDad it looks like adding mg support to moretrees won't be too hard https://github.com/Novatux/mg/​blob/master/trees.lua#L212-222
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12:02 VanessaE oh yeah
12:02 VanessaE in that case that should be easy
12:02 VanessaE translate moretrees' biome data to mg's format and call for them
12:03 VanessaE that bypasses plants_lib as well (  D:  )
12:06 fling Don't I need mg?
12:06 fling I want to have winter…
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12:43 john_minetest 14:43:01: ERROR[AsyncWorkerThread_1]: servers.minetest.net/list not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 200)
12:43 john_minetest And then it crashed
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12:45 rubenwardy Hi all!
12:45 shadowzone Hi rubenwardy.
12:48 john_minetest hi rubenwardy
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12:56 john_minetest 09Lol, look at this. I am writing italic bold colored text.
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12:58 shadowzone Nice.
12:58 shadowzone I wish I knew how you are doing that.
13:02 VanessaE that's italic?
13:02 VanessaE just looks bold green to me.
13:03 shadowzone VanessaE me to.
13:03 john_minetest nnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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13:03 john_minetest Difference in the ns?
13:03 shadowzone I don't need anything different.
13:04 VanessaE john_minetest: all the same here
13:04 john_minetest Hmmm, maybe not every font supports it.
13:04 john_minetest I am using "monospace".
13:04 shadowzone I use monospace.
13:04 john_minetest Strange font name...
13:04 VanessaE more likely it's my client that doesn't support it
13:05 puhfa whats ns?
13:05 VanessaE using Droid Sans Mono here.
13:05 john_minetest ctrl-i for italic, ctrl-b for bold
13:05 VanessaE puhfa: he means the n's he wrote
13:05 puhfa ah
13:05 shadowzone Wowie I made the font 25.
13:05 shadowzone I sure can read things now.
13:05 john_minetest puhfa: Great version string.
13:05 puhfa :D
13:05 puhfa thats irssi actually tho, if youre interested
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13:07 john_minetest hexchat. It got /sysinfo which is really useful
13:07 * shadowzone marks herself as away for now.
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13:15 puhfa :o
13:15 o :puhfa
13:15 puhfa how much did you pay for that nick?
13:16 o not more than i paid for the nick "a"
13:16 john_minetest You haven't got the nick "a"
13:16 john_minetest Because that nick is online.
13:17 o john_minetest: do /ns info a and /ns info o
13:17 john_minetest You could of course have it on an other account.
13:17 o just check /ns info
13:18 john_minetest Wow, you own a and o and both are online... weird.
13:18 o a is not online
13:19 john_minetest Okay, then it might be due to nickserv not letting me take names from accounts which are online
13:19 john_minetest And I need metadata :P
13:19 o nah, it's because someone had it and nickserv enforce'd it and it wasnt released yet
13:19 o Jul28[13:19:26] -- NickServ (NickServ@services.): a has been released.
13:19 o you should be able to /nick to it but then i can /ns ghost you ;)
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13:47 shadowzone VanessaE?
13:47 VanessaE hi
13:47 shadowzone Have you ever heard of gretl?
13:47 VanessaE not sure
13:47 shadowzone Ok.
13:48 shadowzone cause I am fixing my brothers laptop cleaning out the hard drive and uninstalling outdated junk and it is running better.
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14:06 rubenwardy Dynamic nodeboxes D: http://forum.voxelands.com/viewtopic.php?id=256
14:08 Calinou dynamic nodeboxes = ?
14:09 Calinou also, nice smooth lighting on nodeboxes, I wonder how complex this is
14:09 Calinou (especially with shaders)
14:09 Amaz What are dynamic nodeboxes?
14:09 Amaz Ninja'd!
14:09 Calinou oh god the wieldhand is horrondeously ugly
14:10 Calinou people succeed in making ugly wieldhands
14:10 Amaz Minetest's was pretty bad...
14:12 PenguinDad The wieldhand in Voxelands looks worse than the old potato hand imo
14:12 Calinou minetest_game old one was OK, the new one is horrible
14:12 Calinou it's not like Minecraft's is too good or makes too much sense
14:12 Calinou this is why Carbone has none
14:12 Calinou easiest way to have something that makes sense
14:13 PenguinDad no wieldhand looks pretty bad too
14:13 Amaz +PenguinDad
14:13 rubenwardy Dynamic node boxes are nodes with node boxes that are defined by meta data.
14:13 Amaz For the first one/
14:14 rubenwardy So you set the node boxes with the node meta
14:14 rubenwardy I am not sure if they have done this, but this means that players can make their own node boxes in game
14:14 Amaz Right.
14:15 Calinou <PenguinDad> no wieldhand looks pretty bad too
14:15 Calinou but at least you easily see whether you have an item in hand or not; at the end of the day, it's the most important thing
14:16 Calinou all wieldhands suffer from not easily seeing whether your hand is empty or not
14:16 Calinou which is important gameplay-wise
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14:17 PenguinDad minetest for vision impaired people :D
14:17 Calinou you don't always have ~1s to look at hand
14:17 Calinou you may be fighting a mob or such
14:18 Amaz Yeah, I think that unless the wieldhand looks very good, no wieldhand is better.
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15:40 fling VanessaE: so are not you tree mods working with mg fine yet?
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15:43 VanessaE fling: I don't know.
15:44 VanessaE I only have one tree mod and I've never personally tried
15:44 fling VanessaE: hmm hmmm how to check?
15:44 VanessaE *shrug* load it and try it? :)
15:44 VanessaE mg has its own method to generate biomes
15:44 VanessaE which means it doesn't *need* plants_lib technically
15:45 VanessaE so if you can hook into THAT then you could run moretrees without plants_lib
15:45 VanessaE that's why it can spawn rubber trees.
15:45 VanessaE it just doesn't have hooks for the other kinds of trees I guess
15:46 fling VanessaE: I'm talking abount plantlife and moretrees.
15:46 VanessaE yes
15:46 VanessaE but like I said I've never messed with it like that
15:48 VanessaE pull requests welcome ;)
15:51 fling VanessaE: unfortunately I don't know anything about biomes.
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15:52 Sokomine fling: are you intrested in mg? i'm working on that mod and including new village types. what's missing is some more finetuning
15:52 fling VanessaE: but from what you are talking I understand that in current state mg is incompatible because biome codebase is different.
15:52 Sokomine mg and moretrees seem to work alongside - at least from the few testworlds i created. i didn't look into detail
15:52 fling Sokomine: I have some tree/nature mods installed.
15:53 fling Sokomine: can you please confirm this somehow? Or tell me how to confirm?
15:53 Sokomine with undergrowth installed as well, it was a bit too much for my machine and map generation became slow
15:53 fling because I don't see all the trees I see in worlds without mg installed
15:53 Exio what liveOS would you install in a 8gb usb key?
15:53 Sokomine confirm what? that moretrees and mg can work together? they did in my world
15:54 VanessaE fling, they're not incompatible - it's just that plants_lib and moretrees don't know how to use mg's biomes
15:54 VanessaE so they just use their own instead.
15:54 VanessaE that's all
15:54 fling Sokomine: this is what I have installed -> http://bpaste.net/show/516529/
15:54 Sokomine is it an old world? the saplings are spawned by plantslib only in newly generated areas. so, if you added moretrees later, you'll have to walk out a bit in order to find moretrees
15:54 VanessaE as long as there's default:dirt_with_grass and default:sand and default:stone and default:water_source for stuff to spawn on, stuff should spawn.
15:55 VanessaE that's really all plants_lib should need to do its job.
15:55 Sokomine vanessae: ah, yes, probably ought to have pointed that out. i don't know how moretrees trees will feel if their ground is snow or that dry grass from mg
15:55 VanessaE moretrees isn't aware of mg's other biome types so it won't spawn anything in those ares.
15:55 VanessaE areas.
15:56 fling VanessaE: where will moretrees spawn saplings?
15:56 VanessaE and actually it's moretrees and bushes and poison ivy and..and..and.. that decide where stuff should spawn.
15:56 VanessaE plants_lib doesn't give a damn where stuff spawns - it's the mods that use it that decide that.
15:57 Sokomine i have some doubts about combining mg with some other mods which require large amounts of ores. its ore generation is quite diffrent from other mods/mapgens. i expect it to work technically, but it may not work out from a gameplay perspective
15:57 Sokomine people might not find the ores they need
15:57 VanessaE fling: moretrees puts stuff on default:dirt_with_grass and default:sand.
15:57 VanessaE fling: within certain perlin-noise-defined areas.
15:58 fling What about 'trees' mod? I have it enabled but I don't see these trees too -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85901
15:58 fling Sokomine: that is fine, I have multiple mods isntalled they are technic, factory, others
15:59 fling Sokomine: which should simplify some player tasks
15:59 Sokomine i had that working alongside moretrees for a while, but that was some time ago. i needed the trees namespace for experiments with realtests trees
15:59 fling Sokomine: and I want it to be _hard_ to get materials for crafting items from these mods
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15:59 MinetestBot Jordach: 07-25 18:54 UTC <sfan5> <PenguinDad> http://i.imgur.com/0kQ2yMM.gif xD
15:59 fling Sokomine: so it is a good idea to force players to spend days on mining to be able to build a mining machine
15:59 Sokomine oh. ok. if you want it to be explicitly *hard*, then mg might be the right mapgen for you :-)
16:00 fling yes I want it to be hard because as soon as player get some ore she needs she will build a machine that will simplify anything
16:00 Sokomine don't forget to include some sort of trading mechanism. even with hardcore, people will eventually be frustrated. and those that find one ore will have more than they need. i think that ore generation there would be great for a huge server with lots of players and trade going on
16:00 * fling have built an autosmelter :P
16:01 Sokomine doesn't that conflict with "hard"? :-)
16:01 Sokomine especially if in the end people will have quarrys from technic .-)
16:01 Jordach and this is exactly why i can't leave the house
16:01 Sokomine (except that they won't be much good...either you hit a vein or not)
16:01 fling Sokomine: that is why I want it to be hard to get resources :P
16:01 Sokomine hi jordach
16:02 VanessaE fling: I don't know anything about the trees mod, it's not mine.
16:02 fling VanessaE: ok :>
16:02 fling VanessaE: but looks good and working with your just fine, try it :>
16:03 fling Sokomine: I'm searching for an alternative world generator because I want to have winter mostly
16:03 Sokomine fling: perhaps you might be intrested in adventuretest. it combines mg mapgen with mobs, practically removes crafting (or at least makes it very hard), and even makes melting ores something you have to learn first
16:03 fling Sokomine: mg looks very good
16:04 Sokomine well, perhaps you'll eventually like my modifications. currently i wouldn't recommend it for a world you want to play in because i'm still busy fixing some parts, but mostly it works. especially if you just want to take a look around
16:04 fling Sokomine: watershed looks very strange and I found multiple MESE at +32 or so
16:05 fling Sokomine: I'm setting up my new server because I have discovered minetest few days ago :P
16:05 Sokomine ah, and if you like snow, perhaps you'll like my "moresnow" mod as well. it comes into play if you wish for snow on roofs and stairs and slabs etc
16:05 fling Sokomine: and I'm packaging it with it's mods for gentoo
16:05 * Jordach thanks Amaz
16:05 Jordach ;)
16:06 fling Sokomine: and I like villages!
16:06 Sokomine fling: that's nice. do take a look at adventuretest. perhaps you'll like it. and moresnow if you're into building detailled in snowy landscape
16:06 Amaz Why Jordach?
16:06 Sokomine well, then take a look: https://github.com/Sokomine/mg  and https://github.com/Sokomine/moresnow
16:07 fling Sokomine: this is the box I'm running minetest on -> http://bpaste.net/show/516591/ http://bpaste.net/show/516592/
16:07 Sokomine or let me rather upload the version that mostly uses the snow...
16:07 fling Sokomine: sometimes it says out of memory and minetest crashes
16:07 fling Sokomine: started happening when I started to test mg :D
16:07 Sokomine hmm. that ought not happen. how much ram do you have?
16:08 fling Sokomine: now I have a problem: I delete sqlite files from the world dir, restart server and when I loging I just start falling down and everything is dark.
16:08 fling Sokomine: 64G
16:08 rubenwardy Pasties for tea!
16:08 rubenwardy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty , not the clothing :P)
16:09 VanessaE mmmmmmm
16:09 rubenwardy That photo isn't very good looking
16:09 fling Sokomine: ohh! my ebuild is installing from Novatux -> http://bpaste.net/show/516597/
16:09 rubenwardy That's the one I'm having: http://www.rowesbakers.co.uk/images/pasti​es_slideshow/Atraditional-steak-pasty.jpg
16:09 fling Sokomine: I just noticed you have forked from him
16:10 Jordach Amaz, ask sfan5
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16:11 Amaz He just told me :p
16:11 Amaz *:P
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16:12 Jordach i leave for a few days and shit hits the fan each time
16:12 Jordach almost as if you don't want me to leave
16:12 sfan5 Jordach: y leave?
16:12 sfan5 y not stay?
16:12 VanessaE what shit hits the fan? O_o
16:13 sfan5 VanessaE: the botnet?
16:13 VanessaE oh that thing.
16:13 Jordach sfan5, don't worry, reported to BT ;)
16:13 sfan5 meow
16:13 VanessaE woof.
16:13 sfan5 .
16:13 Jordach MEW
16:13 Jordach darp :P
16:13 fling Sokomine: umm why are not you changing mod name? :P
16:14 fling Sokomine: will not you change the name of your fork?
16:14 fling Sokomine: if you will not I will package it as `minetest-mod-mg-sokomine´ <- is this good?
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16:14 MinetestBot Krock: 07-27 18:07 UTC <w_Iaenger> hi
16:15 fling Sokomine: is there a homepage of the mod? and/or forum post or just a repo?
16:15 Sokomine fling: that's right. and nore (who wrote the mg mod) did some updates i've also included :-) he helped me with getting them to my branch. i hope he'll take over back again once it's finished
16:15 Krock !tell w_Iaenger Hay
16:15 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when w_Iaenger is around
16:15 Krock Hello people
16:15 Sokomine i've just uploaded the most recent version of mg now. it's not for productive servers, but if you want to take a look...
16:15 PenguinDad !tell w_Iaenger Straw
16:15 MinetestBot PenguinDad: I'll pass that on when w_Iaenger is around
16:15 fling Sokomine: got it, packaging…
16:16 Krock !tell PenguinDad ok. fixing that error after inserting a new CMOS battery
16:16 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when PenguinDad is around
16:16 PenguinDad Krock: k
16:16 MinetestBot PenguinDad: 07-28 21:16 UTC <Krock> ok. fixing that error after inserting a new CMOS battery
16:16 Krock ..in a laptop
16:17 Sokomine fling: it's not yet ready for packaging. it's something i'm working on :-) but i'm sure you'll like it once it's finished
16:17 fling Sokomine: what is the license?
16:17 Sokomine oh. a krock. your server has been missed by people :-)
16:17 fling Sokomine: why not? the package will always use the head version from git.
16:17 fling Sokomine: I will try it :P
16:18 * fling is not building by hand
16:18 Sokomine oh. if it does so, then it's fine. just warn people that there might be bugs in it and that it's still under development
16:18 Sokomine i'll post a long article (hopefully with screenshots) once i think it's ready to go
16:19 Krock Sokomine, I know. I annonced that some days ago, before I went to holidays. Now I need to get that thing running again
16:19 Sokomine it mostly works alredy...but there's still e.g. that tree issue (expect tree thrunks floating above the village region due to pseudorandom not yet passed on correctly in all places)
16:19 fling Sokomine: what are mts files in schems folder?
16:19 fling Sokomine: are not they used by minetest?
16:20 Sokomine .mts is a very compact format of storing buildings and other schems/shapes (can be trees or other decoration as well)
16:20 fling Sokomine: in gentoo we have keywords thing. A package might have stable or testing keyword. Live packages (which are building from git HEAD) don't usualy have any keyword.
16:21 Sokomine .we is another format (worldedit) that does the same. due to the way it's implemented, .we seems more practical in thsi case
16:21 fling Sokomine: so it will be unstable. :>
16:21 Sokomine please make it testing for now
16:21 Sokomine ah, ok, then...most minetest mods ought to be built from git head :-)
16:21 fling Sokomine: I'm only making fixed versions testing :}
16:21 Sokomine we all more or less use rolling releases
16:22 Sokomine you'll notice that especially with homedecor from vanessae. that gets a lot of updates :-) please include it for those players who want to built. moreblocks is also very important
16:22 fling no snaphots/versions == no testing/stable :>
16:22 VanessaE speaking of which, update your copy, Sokomine. :P
16:22 Sokomine time for a new update of all mods? :-)
16:22 VanessaE it's been "get[ting] lots of updates :-)"
16:23 Sokomine :)
16:23 fling Sokomine: players type 'emerge @live-rebuild' and all the installed unstable mods are rebuilding from git HEAD…
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16:23 * fling is looking at home decor
16:24 Sokomine fling: perfect. that's the best way to handle mods under minetest
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16:34 fling Sokomine: this is what I have packaged -> http://bpaste.net/show/516710/
16:34 fling Sokomine: it is not available to public until I fix all the deps :P
16:35 fling Sokomine: and licenses… btw what is the license of mg and your fork?
16:36 fling Sokomine: is there a web page for moresnow mod?
16:38 PenguinDad ^ sfan5
16:39 fling Sokomine: moresnow packaged but again I need to know the license :P
16:39 fling Sokomine: are you doing gpl-3 I hope?
16:41 fling sfan5: why am I just falling down and everything is black?
16:41 PenguinDad mg seems to not have a licence at all :O
16:41 fling PenguinDad: this is why I'm asking
16:42 sfan5 fling: did you try teleporting to 0,0,0 ?
16:43 fling died! yay
16:43 fling and spawned in a village, thanks
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16:45 fling Sokomine: thas is bad -> http://mirror.dno.so/incoming/screenshots/mi​netest/2014.07.28-23%3a44%3a22.786239564.png
16:45 sfan5 !up mt0.dno.so
16:45 MinetestBot mt0.dno.so:30000 is up (397ms)
16:45 LemonLake oh wow
16:45 LemonLake shit went down in this chan
16:45 LemonLake and i wasn't even here for it D:
16:45 fling LemonLake: what?
16:46 LemonLake fling: what distro is that?
16:46 fling LemonLake: gentoo
16:46 sfan5 fling: gentoo
16:46 sfan5 oh
16:46 sfan5 LemonLake ^
16:46 rubenwardy fling: you always come back to haunt me. I was drunk, I wasn't in control.
16:47 LemonLake ah
16:47 LemonLake i see
16:47 LemonLake i saw some dude installing gentoo in mcdonalds today ó.ó
16:47 sfan5 lol
16:47 fling OMG
16:47 fling LemonLake: tell him my ebuilds are not available to the public yet
16:47 Amaz XD
16:48 PenguinDad fling: what language is that?
16:48 fling PenguinDad: ebuilds are mostly sh
16:49 PenguinDad fling: I mean that text in the upper right of your screenshot
16:50 fling PenguinDad: upper left? chinese numbers
16:50 fling PenguinDad: are widely used in korea and japan etc…
16:51 fling PenguinDad: world.mt at upper right :P
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16:56 PenguinDad fling: which language is in the red marked area https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_qVa0NqkHm9-.png
16:57 Calinou hi
16:57 fling PenguinDad: russian :P
16:57 Calinou rusisan ofc
16:57 Calinou dark GitHub?
16:57 fling PenguinDad: [ Записана 71 строка ] means [ Wrote 71 lines ]
16:58 fling Calinou: I use a custom css everywhere by the default
16:58 rubenwardy Are there any examples of voxel manipulation in Lua, when not in minetest.register_on_generate?
16:58 Calinou font looks ugly
16:58 fling Calinou: sorry! ;P
16:58 Calinou rubenwardy, lavacooling in Carbone
16:58 Calinou (used to be presumably faster, also prevent sound spam)
16:58 PenguinDad I thought it's ukrainian
16:58 VanessaE Calinou: I *trust* you followed the model laid out in gloopblocks ;)
16:58 fling Calinou: I want a smaller font and I want the same font in browser but there is no such font and idk how to change these gtk fonst…
16:59 Calinou yay, one of my reddit comments got -3
16:59 PenguinDad my karma on reddit is nil \o/
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17:00 Calinou meh, if I follow the karma system, my comments are as bad as telling someone to GTFO in an unknown subreddit
17:00 * Calinou shrugs
17:00 Calinou the funniest part is, revealing a troll gives me no karma
17:01 * Calinou looks at lamefun
17:01 VanessaE haha
17:01 fling PenguinDad: [ Записана 71 лінія ] in ukrainian :P
17:04 rubenwardy Thanks, Calinou
17:04 rubenwardy I didn't call update_map()
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17:04 fling PenguinDad: why are you so interested? do you like ukrainian girls? :P
17:05 Calinou not funny
17:05 sfan5 >.> Calinou
17:17 LemonLake hmmm...
17:17 LemonLake deviantart submissions seem to have one minute of grace before they fall to dust
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17:17 LemonLake i put in so much effort just to get a favourite in the minute it was uploaded, then nobody sees it after that
17:18 Calinou this is DeviantArt
17:18 Calinou submit ponies or you get no favs
17:18 * Calinou shrugs
17:19 LemonLake hm
17:19 LemonLake but i dun like ponies no more
17:23 * Calinou puts Rarity on LemonLake's head
17:23 LemonLake why?
17:23 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
17:24 * LemonLake meows at sfan5
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17:24 Calinou LemonLake, for favs :D
17:24 Calinou anyway, useful tool of the day: ifstat
17:25 Calinou shows bandwidth used, on any interface, with or without buffering
17:25 Calinou (in command line)
17:25 fling Sokomine: I will start using your mods as soon as you fix floating trees and snow :P
17:25 fling probably
17:25 fling I like the villages
17:29 sfan5 the mg villages?
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17:31 LemonLake hmph
17:31 LemonLake i should probably get my linux fixed...
17:34 Sokomine fling: i told you about floating trees :-) there's a reason why i say that it is still under development :-)
17:34 Sokomine floating snow...there ought to be nto too much of that
17:35 Sokomine moresnow is gplv3. as are practically all my mods. i'm not sure about mg. need to check what liscence nore released it under
17:36 * PenguinDad jumps out the window
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17:37 fireglow Hi, can't plant any wheat or cotton seeds, where do I start debugging?
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17:40 Calinou fireglow, if they appear as items, it's normal
17:40 Calinou they turn to plants after some time
17:41 Krock I hate you, Youtube!
17:41 fireglow Calinou: I can't plant them, they go straight back into the inventory when I try
17:41 Calinou you really should
17:41 Calinou no idea… works in Carbone :p
17:41 fireglow thanks
17:42 Sokomine fling: my cottages mod (it's included in random_buildings) is also essential for the new mg. else you won't see most of the village types
17:42 PenguinDad Krock: why?
17:42 Krock PenguinDad, cuz it freezes my PC every 2 minutes
17:42 PenguinDad are you using flash?
17:43 Krock aren't you using flash?
17:43 Calinou youtube-dl
17:43 Krock meh.
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17:44 PenguinDad If you are using flash on a outdated windows version then it's your problem not youtube's
17:45 * Krock haz latest updatez, so no outdate
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17:51 sfan5 Krock: still using xp?
17:51 Krock swill <3
17:51 Krock *t
17:51 sfan5 then you doesn't have the newest verison
17:51 sfan5 version*
17:51 PenguinDad *don't
17:52 Krock I didn't say I have the newest version
17:52 PenguinDad Windows XP is outdated anyways
17:53 Krock meh. main problem is this damn black screen on my laptop
17:54 asie joined #minetest
17:56 * PenguinDad gives Krock some dye to color his screen
17:56 * Krock gives them back to PenguinDad
17:58 LemonLake any mcafee users?
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18:05 * Calinou vomits a frame pointer
18:05 Krock LemonLake, got that one on my old win 3.1 laptop
18:06 PenguinDad eeew a frame pointer
18:15 twoelk yay I wrecked a map with WE: ServerError: ...10-gsmapper_20140721\bin\..\b​uiltin\game\item_entity.lua:85: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'dtime_s' (a nil value)
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18:26 twoelk sfan5: are we talking of the same minetest version? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=9828
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18:34 PenguinDad twoelk: the latest version of it seems to be 2 weeks old
18:36 twoelk PenguinDad: savetolocal version?
18:37 PenguinDad twoelk: https://github.com/sfan5/mi​netest/tree/saveToLocalMap
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18:38 PenguinDad at least I think this is what you are talking about
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18:42 Krock !c "Y" + 'A' * 20 + "Y"
18:42 MinetestBot 'YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY'
18:42 Krock <3 MinetestBot
18:42 MinetestBot <3 Krock
18:43 PenguinDad !c 'y'+'a'*3+'y'
18:43 MinetestBot 'yaaay'
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18:49 Krock wtf? "CMOS battery low"? I just opened the laptop, made sure it has enough power, closed it (screw by screw) and that again...
18:49 Krock the life is so unfair :(
18:49 Calinou Krock, the CMOS battery (on the motherboard) is in a low state; this means computer clock may randomly reset upon boot
18:50 Krock Calinou, I know what a CMOS battery ais
18:50 Krock -a
18:52 Krock it had enough Ampère, maybe I had to check the voltage, too :/
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18:57 twoelk PenguinDad: could very well be,if so, my bad then
18:57 jp__ joined #minetest
19:05 * sfan5 meows at Calinou
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19:27 * rubenwardy just realised 'T' was for 'Talk;
19:29 Jordach silly kitten
19:29 shadowzone Lol.
19:29 PenguinDad !rainbow Silly kitten
19:29 MinetestBot 4S4i4l7l7y7 8k8i8t3t3e3n
19:29 shadowzone Hi Jordach.
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19:32 * Jordach continues work on the G9 prototype
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19:39 Calinou rubenwardy, some games use C for… chat
19:39 Calinou or just Space/Enter
19:39 rubenwardy :O
19:44 FreeFull I've only seen T and Enter so far
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20:40 rypervenche Does a survival version of minetest exist? I see it in my repos, but it's showing version 0.4.6 and I can't find the repo for it anymore.
20:41 Calinou rypervenche, these things are outdated. we only have minetest_game now
20:41 Calinou and other player-made games
20:41 Calinou it has survival and creative mode, depending on settings
20:41 rypervenche Ahh, I see. Thank you. I'll look into the settings then when I create a server.
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21:02 bulletrulz RAWR
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21:06 kaeza evenings
21:06 Calinou bye
21:07 * Jordach quite likes this clever use of cape space
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21:30 LemonLake hii
21:30 Jordach ohaider
21:31 PenguinDad hey LemonLake
21:31 Jordach 4 minutes til something random :)
21:31 rypervenche That's a good dad.
21:32 LemonLake i think its time to start working on my site again
21:32 LemonLake gotta get those crafting recipes in dere
21:33 Jordach 2 minutes :3
21:35 LemonLake feline basket pleasantries
21:35 LemonLake Jordach: you lied
21:35 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DAMfIUixis
21:35 Jordach nope
21:35 LemonLake that was 2 minutes 15 seconds
21:36 Jordach still close enough
21:36 LemonLake whoaaaa
21:36 LemonLake steam has a music player?
21:36 Jordach LemonLake, yes in the beta
21:36 LemonLake wtf dude
21:36 LemonLake nobody told me about this
21:37 Jordach LemonLake, i expect Steam Music to have rediculous 95% off music sales
21:37 LemonLake knowing valve
21:37 LemonLake yet they'll make three times the money of the original seller
21:37 Jordach LemonLake, and i don't think they won't enforce DRM
21:37 Jordach (there are non-drm games on steam btw)
21:38 LemonLake im quite aware
21:38 Jordach ((nuclear throne, KSP, various indie)
21:39 rypervenche I have a question for you folks. I'm installing minetest on Gentoo and we use USE flags. There are two that are a bit difficult for me to understand. 1) server : Build minetest server, and 2) dedicated : Add support for dedicated game servers (some packages do not provide clients and servers at the same time)
21:39 rypervenche Is a dedicated game server something different that I'm not aware of? Or was this ebuild just poorly written?
21:39 Jordach rypervenche, minetestserver is the dedicated server, while minetest is the client
21:39 Jordach when compiled from source with cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1/0
21:39 sfan5 uh
21:40 sfan5 no
21:40 sfan5 there are no different dedicated servers
21:40 sfan5 it's just minetest client or minetest server
21:40 sfan5 BUILD_{CLIENT,SERVER} cmake flag
21:41 rypervenche Hmmm, ok. I'll try to figure it out then. The dedicated USE flag has X11 dependencies, which is why I'm confused.
21:42 sfan5 rypervenche: the minetest server needs libirrlicht _headers_ to compile, that may be the source of that
21:43 sfan5 s/_(headers)_/\1/ s/(compile)/_\1_/
21:43 sfan5 it does however not need libirrlicht at runtime
21:43 rypervenche Ah, I see.
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21:53 * VanessaE is back.
21:53 VanessaE
21:53 VanessaE hi
21:53 shadowzone Hi VanessaE.
21:55 VanessaE hey
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22:22 blaise what's the best armor mod ?
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22:32 LemonLake sfan5: found this u might like it http://i.imgur.com/ghtsfZr.jpg
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23:12 LemonLake crap
23:12 LemonLake my explorerframe.dll is faked
23:12 LemonLake fakked*
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23:35 LemonLake fixed three problems in one go
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23:37 LemonLake hi EvergreenTree
23:37 EvergreenTree Hello
23:38 EvergreenTree It's been a while.  Summer is the busiest time of the year for me.  :P
23:38 LemonLake fair enough
23:38 LemonLake it's the least busiest for me
23:38 LemonLake all i do is sleep or sit on the computer either trying to fix an operating system or making rectangles on the desktop
23:38 LemonLake fun
23:39 EvergreenTree yay making rectangles on the desktop
23:39 EvergreenTree except I don't have any icons on my desktop
23:39 EvergreenTree I tthink they just clutter it up
23:39 LemonLake it's better to not
23:39 EvergreenTree -t
23:39 LemonLake let the wallpaper fill
23:39 EvergreenTree I have kde, so I have a few system monitoring plasmoids
23:40 EvergreenTree I would use conky, but it takes way to much to get it to work with kde
23:40 LemonLake on my windows i have fences for some folders, adobe apps, a sticky note and some apps that i cba to remove ont he left
23:40 LemonLake and my linux is filled with random junk that somehow got there, and i cba to fix it to clean it up
23:41 LemonLake aaand i forgot my github login. great
23:42 EvergreenTree This is what my kde desktop looks like: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/8jeDJukSygt4
23:42 EvergreenTree all the panels are auto-hidden
23:42 LemonLake is that a wallpaper?
23:42 EvergreenTree I have a window switcher on the bottom left
23:42 EvergreenTree yes
23:42 LemonLake wow, that's cool
23:42 LemonLake nice and tidy
23:42 EvergreenTree a virtual desktop switcher on the top
23:43 LemonLake but what bugs me is the fact that the window hider is not aligned to the plasmoids
23:43 LemonLake heughueuheguhueuh
23:43 EvergreenTree and the system tray on the bottom right
23:43 EvergreenTree That's true.  :P
23:43 LemonLake holy shit im so drunk
23:43 LemonLake i can't tell left to right
23:44 LemonLake would you guys say it's safe to work in my linux partition?
23:44 LemonLake or would it screw things over
23:46 Exio i want a code-aware reference counting "compile-time garbage collector"
23:46 EvergreenTree LemonLake: don't
23:47 EvergreenTree You could really mess something up
23:47 LemonLake hmm
23:47 LemonLake maybe i should move my entire minetest setup to my secondary drive
23:47 Exio brb switching to Mercury
23:49 Vazon What would cause a port forward to fail/ stop working, last night my port forward was fine then i turned everything off because of sever storms and when i booted it back up again the port will not work. i have tried everything i can think of to fix it

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