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00:27 Miner_48er !up 75.131.40.131
00:27 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (129ms)
00:28 grendal_prime_ hey guys, im building a server for my kids...(just installed this on there linux workstations and they are freaking out about this)
00:29 grendal_prime_ looking for mods...animals...creepers (i have no idea what these are they are just what the kids are saying they want)
00:29 grendal_prime_ any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
00:33 Miner_48er grendal_prime_ https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=11
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01:21 grendal_prime_ i got this mod that...requires fire?
01:21 grendal_prime_ i cant find the fire mod
01:22 VanessaE part of minetest_game
01:26 grendal_prime_ hey i just downloaded your interior decor mod
01:26 grendal_prime_ hehehe
01:26 VanessaE you like? :)
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01:26 grendal_prime_ i have not had a chance to check it out yet
01:26 grendal_prime_ i have to get some animals for my daughter and some monsters for my son...then your mod
01:26 VanessaE there's lots to do with it, also check the wikia article for it.  crafting guide there.
01:27 grendal_prime_ ok so if fire is not installed with the game (seems odd)
01:27 VanessaE http://minetest-home-decor.wikia.​com/wiki/Minetest_Home_Decor_Wiki
01:27 VanessaE if your game lacks fire, you lack the right game :)
01:27 VanessaE get this:  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game
01:27 VanessaE fire is one of the mods contained therein.
01:27 grendal_prime_ i installed from the repos for ubuntu 12.04
01:27 VanessaE no, don't use that.
01:27 VanessaE that's old, outdated.
01:28 VanessaE (also, ubuntu 12.04 is outdated, but that's a lesser issue)
01:28 grendal_prime_ is there a repo...with moreupdated packages
01:28 VanessaE use the daily builds repository
01:28 VanessaE but use that ^^^^^^ github link for the game content
01:28 grendal_prime_ ya we will be upgrading  to the 14.04 probably this next month
01:29 grendal_prime_ we have to verify allot before we can do that.
01:29 VanessaE the most up-to-date minetest for ubuntu is this PPA:  https://launchpad.net/~minetestd​evs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds
01:29 grendal_prime_ kick ass thanks
01:29 VanessaE so get that, and get minetest_game from the github link I just gave
01:29 VanessaE the combination might be occasionally glitchy (it is bleeding edge) but it's always the latest dev build
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01:46 fu-fu So I'm getting into programming again, and would like to start with a "bot" type-thing for minetest, and i'd like it to be a minetest player for what minetest can see, how should I go about doing that?
01:48 Partmedia fu-fu, not sure a minetest bot is in everyone's interests ;)
01:49 fu-fu Partmedia: Yeah... I can understand that, Ideally it would be implmented sever-side, so not everyone has to deal with it.
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01:50 jojoa1997 hello
01:50 fu-fu greetings
01:50 jojoa1997 hi fu-fu
01:51 * jojoa1997 licks fu-fu
01:51 Exio hi
01:51 * jojoa1997 has a sudden urge to give Exio   kitten generator
01:52 Partmedia fu-fu, if on server side, consider a mod (using Lua)
01:54 grendal_prime_ ok VanessaE i got the 4.10 installed..but you are saying there is a diff...game file as well?
01:55 fu-fu Partmedia: Do you know of a mod that has anything that can build stuff?
01:56 fu-fu Partmedia: Or would I be having to make a fullout re-implmentation of the player in the mod?
01:56 grendal_prime_ im looking at github...where does this file go?
01:57 VanessaE grendal_prime_: download the repo, name it minetest_game and put it in ~/.minetest/games
01:57 VanessaE this is the actual game content
01:57 VanessaE minetest (without the word _game) is the engine that runs it and only comes with a simple testing platform by default usually
01:58 VanessaE minetest_game is the so-called "default" sub-game.  other subgames include things like Carbone, Dreambuilder, Nodetopia, and a bunch of others.
02:00 grendal_prime_ wow
02:00 grendal_prime_ ok so i made a dir called games...and put the unziped folder into it.  ./minetest/games/minetest_game-master
02:00 VanessaE remove the word "-master" from the filename
02:01 grendal_prime_ i did good..oh ok will do
02:01 VanessaE and if you are using that PPA, the folder belongs in your homedir, ~/.minetest/games/minetest_game
02:01 VanessaE (note the dot)
02:02 grendal_prime_ ya i got that part..ive been around the nix block a few times
02:02 VanessaE ok :)
02:02 VanessaE never know :)
02:02 grendal_prime_ oh no i know exactly what your checking up on.
02:02 jojoa1997 hi VanessaE :-)
02:02 VanessaE some folks here use Linux but...are not too bright
02:02 VanessaE hey jojo, long time
02:03 jojoa1997 yeah long time
02:03 grendal_prime_ grendal_prime == kvm engineer.
02:03 VanessaE grendal_prime_: I would say you know your shit then ;)
02:03 jojoa1997 also anyone know where i can get a recent guide to compiling minetest?
02:03 VanessaE jojoa1997: in the README, it's still relevant.
02:03 grendal_prime_ i have certs for vmware but its two expensive
02:03 jojoa1997 VanessaE still fails
02:04 VanessaE jojoa1997: pastebin your errors
02:04 jojoa1997 maybe i should try not to use mvsc
02:04 VanessaE oh, windows compiling.  ick.
02:04 jojoa1997 oh yeah
02:04 VanessaE can't help you there :)
02:04 jojoa1997 linux i am fine but windows is meh
02:04 jojoa1997 and i dont use linux anymore :/
02:05 VanessaE why not?
02:05 VanessaE just get the latest sfan5 build btw.  it's quite recent.
02:05 fu-fu ^
02:05 fu-fu erm the whynot linux*
02:06 jojoa1997 i want to build it myself so i can test some c++ i am learning and i am tired of reinstalling linux. using a usb to hdd connection keeps corrupting my partition
02:06 VanessaE jojoa1997: ohhhh
02:06 VanessaE understood.
02:07 jojoa1997 though
02:07 VanessaE as for building it...well... um...
02:07 * VanessaE hides :)
02:07 jojoa1997 when i get a new computer for college i will probably dual boot it windows/linux
02:07 jojoa1997 http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
02:07 SoniEx2 VanessaE, have I told you about my HDD failure?
02:07 Hirato mine failed last year
02:07 VanessaE SoniEx2:  no?
02:08 Hirato came out of nowhere, took lots of stuff with it
02:08 VanessaE I don't recall you mentioning it
02:08 VanessaE Hirato: "Backups, checks, etc.  This would NOT happen."
02:08 jojoa1997 should i use irrlicht sdk 1.8.1 or 1.7.3
02:08 jojoa1997 lol Vadtec
02:08 VanessaE jojoa1997: use 1.8./
02:08 SoniEx2 VanessaE, yeah my HDD died :/ (the data is recoverable but meh that'll be too expensive :/ and it'll need a clean room...)
02:08 Hirato use whatever
02:08 VanessaE 1.8*
02:09 Hirato I only have space for 120GB of backups :/
02:09 VanessaE SoniEx2: ouch.
02:09 SoniEx2 VanessaE, so now I'm on Linux :P
02:09 jojoa1997 lol VanessaE  backups
02:09 VanessaE if you can afford a PC, you can afford a second HDD to make backups with.
02:09 fu-fu ^
02:09 jojoa1997 VanessaE backups dont help you reinstall ubuntu 6 times
02:09 VanessaE this is ESPECIALLY true if you use a laptop/notebook.
02:09 grendal_prime_ why would you do that?
02:09 jojoa1997 and the 21 other OSes that i broke
02:09 VanessaE jojoa1997: backups are for your personal data, not your OS.
02:09 Hirato if I ignore steam games and crap I can just clone/checkout again, that's easily 500mB I don't haveto backup
02:10 grendal_prime_ anyway...vanessa
02:10 grendal_prime_ 19:08:06: ERROR[main]: /home/sgraham/.minetest/mod​s/pilzadammobs/init.lua:1: attempt to concatenate a nil value
02:10 VanessaE grendal_prime_: unreliable USB <-> HDD interface.
02:10 jojoa1997 i know
02:10 VanessaE grendal_prime_: rename that one to just "mobs"
02:10 Hirato which leaves music and um.... "things"
02:10 SoniEx2 (my reasons: 1. too lazy to install windows (not too lazy to install arch linux tho, eh) 2. the only windows CD I have is cracked 3. C)
02:10 fu-fu I personally use btrfs snap-shots, and backup my /home and /etc and a few /var to my old crappy pc. I counted the size of all the backups: 4TB, but it's actually just like 80GB.
02:10 grendal_prime_ i use rsnapshot on my filer
02:11 jojoa1997 VanessaE due to testing for highschool I have broken different linux OSes over 38 times. I stopped counting after that
02:11 Hirato installing windows takes ages, which is to say nothing of installing applications after
02:11 VanessaE I just rsync in incremental mode, to a USB-connected disk every so often
02:11 grendal_prime_ hasnt failen in any of the 8 installs ive done for corporate.
02:11 jojoa1997 I blame slow download speeds
02:11 Hirato it's an annoying and easy way to waste a full day doing nothing productive
02:11 grendal_prime_ ya, rsnapshot uses rsync to do incramentals.
02:12 grendal_prime_ rools them into dailys weekelys and months.  with no additional space required..well little anyway.
02:12 Hirato meanwhile on Linux, I can get arch up and running and sort of configured in about 30 minutes, then another 30 to get basic crap like KDE installed so I have a working environment, then it's back to business :P
02:12 fu-fu Hirato: I took a compressed DD of a fresh install of a small partiton and then expand it, works well.
02:12 VanessaE jojoa1997: I've re-installed a few times, enough that I've made a point to script it.  mostly for paranoia reasons.  if I even think I've fucked it up beyond easy repair, I'll just run a quick backup of my personal data, re-install, and run my "put everything back the way I want it" script :)
02:12 fu-fu (for windows)
02:12 Hirato haha
02:13 VanessaE I'm back up to snuff in like 2 hours.
02:13 SoniEx2 I wish minetest was C :(
02:13 jojoa1997 VanessaE yeah well that would be like 8 hours for me
02:13 Hirato C++ actually does have some nice.convenient additions
02:13 grendal_prime_ i had to build a windows box the other day for school. i had not done this in some time. it took 2 days to get all the updates installed...(im not shitting you)
02:14 VanessaE grendal_prime_: ouch
02:14 SoniEx2 C++ is meh
02:14 Hirato sounds about right
02:14 SoniEx2 or ew, not sure
02:14 grendal_prime_ it hold you hostage on reboots as well
02:14 VanessaE the day I have to go back to windows is the day I think I'll just give up computers and go live in a convent or something :P
02:14 grendal_prime_ you can do anything tell it finishes.
02:14 grendal_prime_ cant that is
02:14 Hirato well yeah, 90% of the additions are either useless or best described as a "shotgun to the foot" :p
02:14 SoniEx2 VanessaE, I say windows is dead, SteamOS is the next big thing
02:15 Hirato both good and bad
02:15 Hirato good: it's linux
02:15 SoniEx2 (and ChromeOS and stuff)
02:15 VanessaE could be - isn't that based around a Linux kernel or so?
02:15 Hirato bad: it's GNOME!!!
02:15 VanessaE Hirato: what's the ugly?
02:15 SoniEx2 VanessaE, Steam
02:15 Hirato haha
02:15 VanessaE (if gnome is only "bad")
02:15 SoniEx2 because proprietary :P
02:15 VanessaE haqha
02:15 VanessaE haha
02:15 jojoa1997 oh God the windows is bad thing
02:15 fu-fu SoniEx2: Isn't the PS4 baised on freeBSD too?
02:16 SoniEx2 fu-fu, idk
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02:17 fu-fu SoniEx2: Doing a quick google, it does, aswell as grub it seems.
02:17 SoniEx2 oh cool
02:17 grendal_prime_ ok that seems to have worked...however the player has no tools...
02:18 grendal_prime_ wich will piss the kids off
02:18 grendal_prime_ so i need to get these guys some stuff to beat up so i can get back to my studdies.
02:18 grendal_prime_ shes 13 hes 11 ...suggestions on mods?
02:18 SoniEx2 grendal_prime_, you should get kids like me
02:19 SoniEx2 then instead of spending time installing games, you spend money buying C books
02:19 grendal_prime_ use to own a bookstore.
02:20 SoniEx2 I've been messing with programming since I was 12 (I'm 15 now)
02:20 VanessaE grendal_prime_: give initial stuff
02:20 * jojoa1997 engages stalker mode
02:20 Exio <- since 10
02:20 Exio and i'm not a h4x0r
02:20 VanessaE there's some config option for that, check minetest.conf.example
02:21 Exio i wish i had the posibility of having advanced courses of calculus (compared to what i should be learning) ++ and also programming when i was child
02:21 SoniEx2 I'm also known for shouting at ppl when they're doing things wrong :/
02:21 VanessaE # Gives some stuff to players at the beginning
02:21 VanessaE #give_initial_stuff = false
02:21 grendal_prime_ what is seed for?
02:21 VanessaE there it is.
02:22 grendal_prime_ thats not managable via the gui though right?
02:22 VanessaE actually I thought it was?
02:22 * VanessaE checks
02:22 jojoa1997 it is
02:22 VanessaE yes, it is
02:22 jojoa1997 the seed can be set by the gui
02:22 SoniEx2 seed? as in world/generator seed?
02:22 jojoa1997 yeah
02:23 jojoa1997 The wiki says libvorbis headers are here http://xiph.org/downloads/
02:23 SoniEx2 (that question was for grendal_prime_ btw)
02:23 jojoa1997 do i download the 1.3.4?
02:23 jojoa1997 or should i find 1.3.3
02:23 VanessaE get 1.3.4, jojoa1997.  should be fine.
02:24 jojoa1997 ok thanks
02:24 grendal_prime_ ya
02:24 grendal_prime_ world generator seed
02:24 jojoa1997 Also VanessaE how are your mods and servers going?
02:24 VanessaE the servers are meh
02:24 SoniEx2 grendal_prime_, you know how PRNGs work?
02:24 VanessaE but my mods are doing well
02:24 jojoa1997 grendal_prime_ seed 0 is fun
02:25 jojoa1997 I used to talk so much in the forums but now it is just too much to read it all
02:25 grendal_prime_ dont know didliy i dont game much...network and virt infrastructure engineer.
02:25 * jojoa1997 wishes for a time with less people kinda
02:25 VanessaE I don't read the forums actively anymore
02:25 VanessaE grendal_prime_: the seed value is used to start off the random number generator for the perlin noise functions in the mapgen
02:25 grendal_prime_ oh also vanessaE is it possible to build a headless server?
02:26 grendal_prime_ ok..
02:26 SoniEx2 grendal_prime_, PRNG = Pseudo Random Number Generator
02:26 Exio hm?
02:26 grendal_prime_ thanks
02:26 VanessaE grendal_prime_: oh sure, my servers run on a dedi up in canada.
02:26 VanessaE cmake . -DBUILD_CLIENT=0
02:26 VanessaE (among the other -Dxxxx options)
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02:26 jojoa1997 what?
02:27 jojoa1997 VanessaE i thought you used your computers at home?
02:27 Exio he did
02:27 Exio she
02:27 Exio like, a lot ago?
02:27 Exio :P
02:27 VanessaE jojoa1997: not in a llooooooong time
02:27 * jojoa1997 wonders how long he has been gone
02:27 VanessaE I moved the servers to a VPS for a short while at Linode (in Atlanta, GA), then moved them to a dedi up in Ontario I think is where they are.  OVH datacenter.  Been there ever since.
02:28 VanessaE jojoa1997: at least 6 months I guess.
02:28 grendal_prime_ I build virtual game servers for the kids on the poweredge in the garage. but if i can avoid putting a desktop on the things it saves me alot of space.
02:28 jojoa1997 what!?
02:28 fu-fu ?
02:28 jojoa1997 5th most posts
02:28 jojoa1997 still
02:28 Exio VanessaE, remember if you changed it in 2014 or 2013? :P
02:28 Exio because you spammed so much ... jojoa1997
02:28 jojoa1997 geesh i didnt think i was that spammy?
02:28 jojoa1997 oh
02:29 Miner_48er grendal_prine_ you can do it without a gui
02:29 jojoa1997 i never used the edit topic thing
02:29 VanessaE Exio: I don't remember, but it's been a while.
02:29 jojoa1997 but i wasnt that spammy
02:29 fu-fu grendal_prime_: virtual game servers? Oh, do you just mean it runs the servers for your kids?
02:29 VanessaE Exio: but I think I went to the dedi this year.
02:29 VanessaE VPS last year.
02:29 Exio that is what i thought
02:30 jojoa1997 Exio in the beggining i was a noob at forums but i am pretty sure i was straitened out by the comunity
02:30 Exio last change this year, but 8 months since you're using VPSes i thin
02:30 Exio straitened?
02:30 Exio could you rephrase that?
02:30 VanessaE you, straightened out?  HAH!
02:31 VanessaE we got you ALL bent out of shape :P
02:32 jojoa1997 i see
02:32 jojoa1997 i left Minetest begining of Janurary
02:32 jojoa1997 and just popped on here and there
02:33 jojoa1997 ahh
02:33 jojoa1997 that is when i switched to Freeminer
02:33 grendal_prime_ fufu.. dedicated machines they are virutual...vaporware...
02:33 Exio >freeminer
02:33 grendal_prime_ i can clone one configure it and have it online in less than 10 min
02:34 jojoa1997 freeminer is nice Exio when it isnt freezing for me
02:34 VanessaE freeminer....
02:34 * VanessaE scowls.
02:34 fu-fu grendal_prime_: But they arn't like "Kids, go play on the virtual mechines" they just host the servers, not the game clients.
02:35 grendal_prime_ entire machine is fake, all in one file..but..you wouldnt know it. Runs on 16 core Xeons Very stable.
02:35 grendal_prime_ yes and no..i mean they can xrdp into machines that run certain apps for them.
02:35 VanessaE be aware that minetest can be a resource hog :)
02:36 grendal_prime_ i understand..there are 16 gigs of ram just for personal stuff
02:36 fu-fu grendal_prime_: Yeah, but they're not going to load up crysis and play it over it. That was my origonal thought of it, and hence the "holy shit."
02:36 grendal_prime_ whats that?
02:36 fu-fu it's a very graphics intensive game.
02:37 grendal_prime_ gigabit switch and spice enabled server...should work fine
02:37 grendal_prime_ but i will say the implimentation is not typically used for gaming
02:37 grendal_prime_ game servers though...usually do not need alot of display "stuff"
02:38 jojoa1997 [22:34:03] <28VanessaE> freeminer....
02:38 jojoa1997 [22:34:06] * 28VanessaE scowls.
02:38 jojoa1997 :O
02:38 VanessaE well I mean CPU-intensive
02:38 jojoa1997 how dare you
02:38 VanessaE jojoa1997: no, seriously.
02:38 * jojoa1997 scowles too
02:38 VanessaE freeminer is not well-looked-upon now.
02:38 grendal_prime_ VanessaE, ya there are 16 of those on that server
02:38 Exio minetest doesn't uses more than two cores nicely
02:38 VanessaE grendal_prime_: good deal.  just bear in mind that it's not very multithread aware.  needs a lot of work in that department.
02:38 jojoa1997 VanessaE freeminer is nice but Minetest also jumped up in my view cause of the added features to default
02:38 fu-fu grendal_prime_: yeah, I was thinking it was like a personal onlive server for some dumb terminals your kids have.. idk why I was thinking that.. but that's what I was thinking.
02:39 VanessaE jojoa1997: the latest minetest really works quite well now.
02:39 VanessaE but still has a ways to go
02:39 * jojoa1997 places a cat on VanessaE's lap
02:39 grendal_prime_ thats fine..i just give them an entire core
02:39 jojoa1997 same
02:39 * VanessaE puts the cat in OldCoder's pile
02:39 jojoa1997 OldCoder ...
02:39 SoniEx2 grendal_prime_, wait, 16 CPUs * 16 cores each?
02:39 jojoa1997 Oh gosh memories are comming back
02:40 OldCoder Hi
02:40 OldCoder jojoa1997, Hi!
02:40 OldCoder VanessaE, meow!
02:40 VanessaE hey OldCoder
02:41 OldCoder yeh
02:41 grendal_prime_ no no...2 cpus at 8 each.
02:42 VanessaE grendal_prime_: nice box
02:42 grendal_prime_ virtual stuff works different. it handles all of the multithreading for you.
02:42 grendal_prime_ dell poweredge 1650  very good box...hardly uses any power as well.
02:43 grendal_prime_ its cheep to....because it only has 3 hd s
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02:43 grendal_prime_ but i use a jbod for backups they run pretty frequently...
02:43 grendal_prime_ i have a video...ummm hold on
02:44 grendal_prime_ http://resume.booksnmore.com/videos.php?​selected_video=scriptable-vm-backup.webm
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02:46 RavonTUS Greetings
02:46 Miner_48er hi
02:46 Exio just watched madagascar 3
02:46 RavonTUS Anyone know what I'm missing on this error??  [Mod mob_basics] Error:  '/home/mrbrown/.minetest/worlds/​stampyworld/mod_mob_basics.data' not found.
02:46 grendal_prime_ that video shows some older equiment.
02:46 Exio LSD-sponsored movie
02:47 grendal_prime_ i still use those for backups, incase i loose any of the 1650s
02:47 grendal_prime_ LSD?
02:48 Miner_48er RavonTUS does that file exist?
02:49 jojoa1997 hi OldCoder
02:49 OldCoder
02:49 * VanessaE scoops up a couple of stray kittens and puts them back in OldCoder's pile
02:49 Exio the puss in boots movie is quite trippy
02:50 OldCoder
02:50 grendal_prime_ exio however that video does show live hot migration.
02:50 * jojoa1997 gives OldCoder sfan5
02:50 Exio what?
02:50 jojoa1997 what? sfan5 is a cat
02:51 grendal_prime_ the video of the virtual hosts and how to manage them...there is hot migration where i move a running instance of a web server from one host to another while its running.
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02:57 RavonTUS Found source and updated the files, thanks Miner.
02:59 Miner_48er everything working?
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03:10 grendal_prime_ where did everyone go?
03:11 Miner_48er no where, it's just no one is talking.
03:12 grendal_prime_ wel they were right before you logged in....you got a bad rep?
03:13 Miner_48er no
03:14 SoniEx2 I'm going to bed, it's over midnight and I'm tired. good night
03:15 grendal_prime_ so...that  line about adding default gear didnt work
03:16 grendal_prime_ give_initial_stuff = true
03:16 grendal_prime_ didnt do anything for my peeps
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03:20 Miner_48er where there player files already created?
03:20 grendal_prime_ i got it working...i had to just recreate the world
03:20 grendal_prime_ that sounds complicated but its really not ..hehehe
03:20 grendal_prime_ i feel allot like god right now..
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03:21 grendal_prime_ boom...crash...destry..changes laws of physics...whammo...
03:21 grendal_prime_ "ok kids have at it!"
03:22 grendal_prime_ all in all its ok...makes me look like a god to my kids...
03:22 grendal_prime_ bunch of nerd voodoo that they tell their friends is "Sick" and "Epic"
03:23 grendal_prime_ pretty funny really
03:24 fu-fu Question, trying to get position of pointed thing, everything just crashed. "attempt to index local 'pointed_thing' (a nil value)" the wiki isn't helping.
03:26 Miner_48er paste the line of code if it's under 3 lines or use a paste service.
03:27 Miner_48er grendal_prime_ http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
03:27 fu-fu pos = minetest.get_pointed_thing_position(pointed_thing, above)
03:28 fu-fu and it's just a chat command
03:28 grendal_prime_ Miner_48er, what are you talking about
03:28 Miner_48er grendal you asked about the lack of conversations
03:31 fu-fu I'd think it'd want an entity to yaknow have an entity..?
03:31 fu-fu for the posfacing.. idk
03:32 Miner_48er yes the example should help http://dev.minetest.net/minete​st.get_pointed_thing_position
03:34 fu-fu Not really.. i'ma test something though...
03:34 fu-fu Nope
03:35 fu-fu How don't understand the pointed_thing, or how to get it.
03:35 fu-fu I don't*
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03:41 Miner_48er fu-fu here's some code that uses it https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?id=7846#p139019
03:44 Miner_48er fu-fu did that help?
03:46 fu-fu Derp, I'm still trying to figure out where pointed_thing comes from. It doesn't seem to be like a function call itself, just a variable/object.. which pops out of thin air.
03:49 Miner_48er what are you using pointed_thing to do?
03:49 fu-fu And now it doesn't seem to crash (because it's defined in function variables), but it's not returning a position
03:49 fu-fu I'm trying to have it, return the position of what the player is looking at. (Via a chat command.)
03:53 Miner_48er fu-fu http://dev.minetest.net/pointed_thing
03:55 fu-fu Miner_48er: Yeah, I've seen that too.. I think there's just some weird way of calling it  that I seem to be missing that's not in the wiki. I'm just going to steal the player pos because that actually works. Thank you though.
03:56 Miner_48er ok
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04:23 grendal_prime_ ok
04:24 grendal_prime_ so just because im lazy and i dont plan on doing development on this.....whole thing...i dont really want to spend alot of time looking into the client server model on this...im going to assum that the mods and whatnot only need be installed on the acting server?
04:24 grendal_prime_ or do they need to be distributed to all the clients as well?
04:25 fu-fu Just the server, the clients will download it as needed.
04:26 grendal_prime_ oh thank god in heaven..(or...budah...or...whoever you want) for that..
04:27 grendal_prime_ so if i am just running the server...how do i call this bad boy up?
04:28 grendal_prime_ log in as the user.. run /minecraft.jar -f pathtoconfigfile?
04:28 grendal_prime_ sorry mintest.jar
04:28 Miner_48er jar?
04:29 grendal_prime_ i was being silly
04:30 grendal_prime_ wife made pasta...and when she does that (especially with the eggplant from our garden) i have to have a couple of glases of vino to really be in the boundrys of my strict diet.
04:30 grendal_prime_ it does make me a bit loopy though
04:32 grendal_prime_ is there something i can install that will put me on planet endor?
04:32 grendal_prime_ something with some resources...i keep getting these...well they look allot like death valley
04:32 grendal_prime_ but even flatter
04:35 fu-fu Aww what, when was finite liquid removed!? I call poop.
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04:37 Miner_48er fu-fu re enable it
04:43 grendal_prime_ werid...minetest is nice.    Ok so i can fire that up on the server is there a client for creating  worlds from remote or is that all done from command line?
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04:50 Miner_48er grendal_prime_ You can create the world either way. If using the client the world can be transfered to the server.
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05:07 grendal_prime_ ya but im confused do i put the mods into the world folder
05:08 Miner_48er mods or worldmods
05:08 Miner_48er either one
05:08 grendal_prime_ oh i dont see one of those..
05:08 grendal_prime_ does that go inside them world. folder
05:11 Miner_48er mods is in the root folder and worldmods is in worlds/name/worldmods
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05:47 grendal_prime_ alright all seems good now
05:47 grendal_prime_ sheep to kill, creapers biting them in the middle of the night.
05:47 grendal_prime_ they should be happy
05:48 Miner_48er good
05:48 grendal_prime_ so question this server logs all this right? if i shut down the server and bring it back up..will it loose all their shit?
05:48 Miner_48er no that is stored in the world file and there player files
05:49 Miner_48er correct way to shutdown is from inside the game using /shutdown
05:50 grendal_prime_ ya im just thinking..if it crashes or i have to shut it down for updates.
05:51 grendal_prime_ so if i add mods to it, i need to restart the world it wont loose there stuff and they can pick up right were they left off but have the new mods enabled.
05:51 Miner_48er do you know how to enable mods?
05:52 grendal_prime_ i would assume in the conf file
05:52 grendal_prime_ for the world?
05:53 grendal_prime_ hmm isnt one for there
05:53 Miner_48er no good guess
05:54 Miner_48er worlds/name/world.mt
05:54 grendal_prime_ putting them into the worldmods folder but then where to set it as enabled i dont know
05:54 grendal_prime_ ah ok
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05:54 grendal_prime_ load_mod_mobs = true
05:55 grendal_prime_ that lods the mobs mod
05:55 grendal_prime_ so if i have one called tnt..wich i do...it would be
05:55 grendal_prime_ load_mod_tnt = true
05:56 Miner_48er yes
05:56 grendal_prime_ got it...so whats the deal with textures?
05:57 Miner_48er ?
05:58 grendal_prime_ wow...that really cleans things up
05:58 grendal_prime_ http://minetest.net/_detail/m​inetoon03.png?id=texturepacks
06:00 Miner_48er Are you looking for how to install texture packs or the download links?
06:05 grendal_prime_ i got the dowloaded  im just looking into installing now
06:07 grendal_prime_ i was just wondering if they could be added the same way the mods could...like worldtexture
06:08 grendal_prime_ or something like that
06:08 Miner_48er https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=19837#p19837
06:10 grendal_prime_ ya im reading that..but when it says minetest directory does it mean /home/user/.minetest/ and then we add textures ?
06:10 grendal_prime_ cause currently there is no textures dir in there
06:11 grendal_prime_ oooo it explains..also it needs to go in the textures/all dir
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06:20 Exio making a cobol parser is probably a pain
06:21 Exio even worse than writing in cobol itself
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07:18 grendal_prime_ damn it..im going to bed...you cant stop me ..watch me go
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07:36 Calinou http://dpaste.com/128W7SG → is there any fix for this?
07:40 sfan5 probably
07:44 puhfa gsub <3
07:44 puhfa could it have been 3 or 2 characters? 4 seems an awful lot of wasted hdd space
07:46 Calinou gsub = ?
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08:12 puhfa i have no idea
08:13 puhfa the only thing it reminds me of is the good old GOSUB and oh god i dont wanna remember
08:22 pitriss gsub should be something to replace substrings by defined string
08:22 pitriss at least in ruby and probably also in lua
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09:15 LazyJ VanessaE, are you still up and about?
09:17 LazyJ The new signs in HomeDecor aren't line(word?)-wrapping. Try typing out a single, long line of text and you'll see.
09:18 LazyJ I left an issue on GitHub. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to put the bug in your ear or kaeza's.
09:19 LazyJ The problem exists in Xban2's GUI so maybe it's kaeza I should pull aside the next time I see him online?
09:20 Calinou oh, I'd like signs where you can write multiple lines indeed
09:20 Calinou normal ones, not ones where you see text in the world (that's silly)
09:21 sfan5 meow
09:21 sfan5 hi everyone
09:21 LazyJ Agreed. HomeDecor's signs would be nice to have in the base game.
09:21 Calinou s/nice/crap
09:22 LazyJ Particularly if they can display non-latin characters.
09:22 Calinou dynamic text is the cause of slow down of the game, it's an hack, it's hard to read
09:22 Calinou it's non-standard
09:22 Calinou it's exactly what the base game shouldn't have
09:22 LazyJ The white text of the default signs disappears to easily on light colored backgrounds making them useless.
09:23 Calinou use outlined text
09:23 Calinou sorry if you're stuck in outline-less era
09:23 LazyJ Looking at the sky, against a white building, these are things I've run into a lot.
09:23 Calinou (same goes for font being too small: font_size = 18)
09:23 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/7873453/
09:23 Calinou good for 1920 × 1080
09:23 LazyJ Aye. Too small, especially the names above the players.
09:24 Calinou doesn't fix names above players though
09:24 LazyJ Even a flat, dark field behind the white characters would be an improvement in legibility.
09:24 Calinou dark field is a setback invented by Minecraft
09:25 LazyJ I'm using VanessaE's outlined fonts but they don't transfer to sign text or the player names.
09:25 Calinou it's OK to have one behind infotexts maybe, but never behind chat
09:25 LazyJ Oops. I was wrong. They do transfer to the sign's off-to-the-side text.
09:26 LazyJ I just checked in a non-HomeDecor test world.
09:28 LazyJ Calinou, what are the licensing issues for the Misa texture pack. I've been changing and adding things, mixing in some stuff from other texture packs. The "remixed" version I've got may be of interest to others but I'm concerned about the licensing being a snag.
09:28 LazyJ I thought I saw somewhere that you had mention "Misa" has not been heard from since mid-2013?
09:28 RealBadAngel Calinou, that crash happens with what item?
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09:29 LazyJ Misa mess - Low priority. Crash solving is more important. ;)
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09:35 Calinou RealBadAngel, no idea, but it's a wieldview bug
09:36 Calinou LazyJ, yes, Misa is 404 since 2013, even her Minecraft Forums title says so (probably changed by staff)
09:36 Calinou pack is officially under CC BY-NC (:()
09:36 RealBadAngel Calinou, any ideas on how to cause that bug to occur?
09:37 LazyJ Erm... in layman's terms, what does CC BY-NC translate too?
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09:40 Calinou attribution required (that's fine) + “no commercial use”, which makes it no free
09:41 Calinou strangely, no ShareAlike clause (which is very frequent with the NC clause, probably because people using it don't know the licenses much)
09:41 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/j0C7fVn.png
09:41 RealBadAngel ^^ just fired up carbone
09:41 LazyJ Well, I'll keep it to myself then just to be on the safe side. Thanks ;)
09:44 Calinou cool, water looks strange
09:44 Calinou LazyJ, you can publish it
09:44 Calinou but you'll have to put it under CC BY-NC (or something stricter, but I doubt you want to do that)
09:45 PenguinDad Calinou: the new water surface shader
09:45 Calinou ah
09:45 Calinou how is it so different?
09:45 Calinou looks like a normal-map + specular applied on water
09:46 RealBadAngel no, thats a shader
09:46 RealBadAngel you can try it
09:46 RealBadAngel btw, i found the reason for your crashes
09:47 RealBadAngel you have put into inventory items that shouldnt be there
09:47 RealBadAngel like burning gunpowder or explosion
09:48 RealBadAngel i will try to make code check for such situations
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09:51 RealBadAngel Calinou, http://pastebin.com/LdZ2R4c9
09:51 RealBadAngel it crashes on animated tiles
09:52 RealBadAngel so tile[1] is not a string but a table
09:52 RealBadAngel you have to add a check if tile[1] is a string
09:53 RealBadAngel and the water is here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1521
09:59 Calinou ok, thanks
09:59 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/g1xm1fCL
09:59 RealBadAngel here you have patched function
10:00 RealBadAngel it shouldnt crash anymore
10:02 Calinou thanks :)
10:02 Calinou shows nothing in hand when holding animated tile, but better than crashing
10:04 PenguinDad RealBadAngel: your water surface shader doesn't seem to like nodeboxes directly beneath the surface https://mediacru.sh/7730b9dca5c1
10:04 Calinou crap, even exploding 56 TNT crashes
10:05 PenguinDad but otherwise it looks nice
10:05 RealBadAngel PenguinDad, thats the issue with water drawtype not the shaders
10:06 RealBadAngel if you dig any node 1 below the water surface, mesh generation turns water surface into something else for whole block
10:06 RealBadAngel that bug is here since ages but now its clearly visible just
10:07 RealBadAngel before for example it happened to make water opaque for whole block
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10:15 Calinou Carbone: Fix crashes with wieldview, wool makes snow sounds, tweak sound volumes.
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10:23 hoodedice Morning miners
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10:38 Calinou Map Tools updates
10:38 Calinou I hope it works
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11:21 * PenguinDad pokes sfan5
11:21 * sfan5 licks PenguinDad
11:23 PenguinDad sfan5: are you trying to join VE-Vanilly?
11:23 sfan5 no
11:23 PenguinDad *Vanilla
11:23 PenguinDad then it's a different ninjakitten
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11:35 hoodedice Testing this twitch thing
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11:39 hoodedice IT WORKS!
11:42 * sfan5 meows at hoodedice
11:44 hoodedice watch hoodedice do random stuff on a random server at twitch.com/hoodedice
11:44 hoodedice * twitch.tv/hoodedice
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12:09 hoodedice !tw @MinetestCommune
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12:09 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/Minetes​tCommune?1406462950.0712395 (@MinetestCommune)
12:12 PenguinDad !tw 491857221584556032
12:13 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/twitter​/status/491857221584556032
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13:08 jojoa1997 is there mg7 support in Minetest yet where i can define biomes in lua like this? https://github.com/freeminer/default​/blob/master/mods/default/biomes.lua
13:09 Amaz Yep!
13:09 Amaz Two miniutes, I'll find an example...
13:11 Amaz Here you go: https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig​/blob/master/mods/mapgen/mapgen.lua#L21-L34
13:11 Amaz (I'm not sure if heat_point and humidity_point are now redundant...)
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14:02 jojoa1997 FINALLY
14:02 jojoa1997 im back
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14:02 jojoa1997 i have a car and all of a sudden new head lights, polishing, and cleaning the car is needed!
14:03 jojoa1997 i started driving it recent but COME ON i have had it for ages
14:04 jojoa1997 Amaz the heat point is a part of the mapgen
14:04 jojoa1997 humidity and heat are another setting
14:05 jojoa1997 example hot humid = jungle, hot arid = desert, ...
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14:08 VanessaE LazyJ: *poke*
14:10 * LazyJ rollsover and mumbles something incoherent.
14:13 VanessaE wake up damn it
14:13 * VanessaE shakes LazyJ vigorously.
14:13 VanessaE LazyJ: read.  license question.  https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=149534#p149534
14:13 LazyJ I'm up! I'm up!
14:14 * VanessaE shoves a cup of hot coffee under LazyJ's nose ;)
14:14 * LazyJ takes the coffee gratefully and fishes around for last night's donut box.
14:15 VanessaE DONUTS!!!!!!!
14:15 * VanessaE offers chocolate in trade
14:16 LazyJ License question??
14:16 VanessaE LazyJ: homedecor is LGPL.  your code is GPL.  by extension so is jp's fork.
14:17 VanessaE I'd like to include his fork of your mod into homedecor modpack.
14:17 VanessaE your permission is required :)
14:17 LazyJ Ok.
14:17 LazyJ What's the difference between LGPL and GPL? I just go with whatever the original author uses.
14:18 VanessaE beats the hell out of me exactly except LGPL is supposed to make it easier to use code so-licensed in proprietary projects or something.
14:18 VanessaE I only use it because minetest_game did and I got some code from there.
14:19 LazyJ Ok with me to use it.
14:20 LazyJ Credit to semmett9 too.
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14:21 LazyJ While I have your ear, VanessaE, besides the signs not line-wrapping, when placed on a default fence they break the fence line.
14:21 VanessaE yeah I know about that
14:21 VanessaE that requires....  a lot of work.
14:21 VanessaE the line-wrapping issue is kaeza's arena.
14:21 VanessaE the other part is..  um....
14:21 * VanessaE hides
14:22 * PenguinDad stares at xpanes
14:22 SylvieLorxu LGPL = You only need to give the source of this code
14:22 LazyJ Hehehehe...
14:22 SylvieLorxu GPL = You also need to give the source of your project if you use this code
14:22 SylvieLorxu AGPL = You need to do this, even if the user doesn't run it and you just sent the output over the Internet
14:23 LazyJ SylvieLorxu, so include a copy of semmet9's version of the code?
14:23 VanessaE naw
14:23 SylvieLorxu LazyJ: No, it has to do with linking
14:23 SylvieLorxu With the GPL, if you use GPL code and write more files that interact with the GPL code
14:23 VanessaE you only need to link/distribute what is used to build yours
14:23 SylvieLorxu Your files need to be GPL as well
14:23 SylvieLorxu With the LGPL, they don't have to be
14:24 LazyJ So if the fork is posted in semmet9's thread of the original mod does that satisfy the license requirements?
14:25 VanessaE yep
14:25 VanessaE mods are always open source anyway
14:26 VanessaE distributing the source is kinda automatic with a minetest mod
14:27 LazyJ My concern is if the licensing issue get too complicated and sticky, it may discourage modders from releasing their work.
14:27 jojoa1997 [10:13:32] * 28VanessaE shakes LazyJ vigorously.
14:27 jojoa1997 RUUDE
14:27 VanessaE jojoa1997: what do YOU do when someone would get out of bed? whisper to them gently? ;P
14:28 jojoa1997 simple
14:28 jojoa1997 I let my mom scream at me
14:28 jojoa1997 ;D
14:28 jojoa1997 also can anyone make sense of https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig​/blob/master/mods/mapgen/mapgen.lua#L21-L34
14:29 jojoa1997 I kinda know how it works but an explanation api worthy would be nice
14:29 SylvieLorxu LazyJ: If they haven't changed semmet9's code and their own code is all different files, I think so
14:29 SylvieLorxu #fsf probably knows best
14:29 SylvieLorxu The GPL family is really complicated
14:29 LazyJ Ugh...
14:29 jojoa1997 VanessaE would it be illegal for me to sell my mod when it is GPL
14:30 PenguinDad zlib/libpng licence is much easier
14:30 VanessaE jojoa1997: nope.  not illegal at all.
14:30 jojoa1997 yay
14:30 VanessaE there is a lot of code that's GPL and also being sold.
14:30 VanessaE nothing precludes that.
14:30 jojoa1997 The official price for Overcraft Origins is one hug
14:30 SylvieLorxu PenguinDad: Definitely
14:30 VanessaE one hug?!
14:30 jojoa1997 WAIT
14:31 VanessaE are you crazy?!
14:31 jojoa1997 The official price for Overcraft Origins is ten hugs
14:31 SylvieLorxu jojoa1997: No, FOSS licenses, per definition, have to allow you to sell it
14:31 VanessaE that's highway robbery!
14:31 * PenguinDad hugs jojoa1997
14:31 jojoa1997 :D
14:31 jojoa1997 PenguinDad gets ownership now
14:31 * VanessaE tosses jojoa1997 a ten-pack of hugs
14:31 jojoa1997 IM FREE
14:31 VanessaE (I had these all packaged up some years ago just in case ;) )
14:31 * jojoa1997 buys a kitten
14:31 * jojoa1997 gives kitten to VanessaE
14:32 jojoa1997 ok so
14:32 * VanessaE pets the kitten and puts it in OldCoder's pile
14:32 jojoa1997 is there a ,tell thing here?
14:32 jojoa1997 like ,tell Jordach blah
14:32 jojoa1997 and when he speaks he gets the message
14:33 PenguinDad ''tell jojoa1997 I think so
14:33 HLuaBot I'll tell that to "jojoa1997" next time I see them around.
14:33 jojoa1997 ''tell Jordach could you explain what each part means in https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig​/blob/master/mods/mapgen/mapgen.lua#L21-L34
14:33 HLuaBot I'll tell that to "Jordach" next time I see them around.
14:34 jojoa1997 time to
14:34 jojoa1997 go tablet
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14:37 jojoa1997_ My tablet is too slow
14:37 jojoa1997_ It doesn't boot in 5 seconds
14:37 VanessaE heh
14:38 PenguinDad maybe it still uses SysV-init :P
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14:38 frogfish Hello everybody
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14:39 frogfish !up atom.uk.to
14:39 MinetestBot atom.uk.to:30000 seems to be down
14:39 frogfish fukkc
14:39 frogfish Hey yaman
14:40 frogfish How's your PvP thing coming along?
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15:07 frogfish hi!
15:07 * frogfish is connecting through 2 routers because Wifi on one of them is this
15:08 frogfish *shit
15:08 frogfish Connect to the dwarves server on atom.uk.to, I'm hosting a game
15:08 frogfish Basically a PvP
15:09 Amaz !up atom.uk.to
15:09 MinetestBot atom.uk.to:30000 seems to be down
15:09 PenguinDad ''up atom.uk.to
15:09 HLuaBot Unknown command "up". Try "help".
15:09 PenguinDad :(
15:10 frogfish !up atom.uk.to
15:10 MinetestBot atom.uk.to:30000 is up (5473ms)
15:10 frogfish Holy shit...
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15:13 Calinou hi
15:13 frogfish Hey Calinou
15:13 frogfish Prison server Terminated
15:13 frogfish I mean,
15:13 frogfish I can run it if you really want
15:14 Calinou tried to log in this morning
15:14 Calinou why?
15:14 Calinou you should've just disabled PvP if you're annoyed with it
15:14 frogfish I'm hosting a PvP server
15:14 frogfish I still have the map
15:15 Calinou meh, boring thing
15:15 frogfish Nobody was joining tho
15:15 Calinou if you actually want players, you can do 2 things:
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15:15 Calinou either you have a custom map (eg. prison)
15:15 Calinou eg you make it peculiar in some way (eg. hardcore PvP)
15:15 Calinou the Prison server fullfilled 1, so it was fine
15:15 Calinou look at 90 % of servers on list
15:15 Calinou they're generic survival/creative worlds
15:15 Calinou we have enough of them
15:15 Amaz PvP with Minas Tirith map! https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=9440
15:16 frogfish and {Amaz link desc="Dwarves"}
15:16 Amaz ?
15:16 frogfish https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9826
15:16 Calinou woo, 1000 reddit comment karma.
15:17 Amaz That.
15:17 * sfan5 licks Calinou
15:17 * Amaz strokes sfan5
15:18 * sfan5 purrs
15:18 Calinou http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comm​ents/2bsvur/bug_3313_rpm_fusion_in​itial_download_is_totally/cj90w6q
15:18 Calinou successful troll!
15:18 Calinou but no one planted a dynamite on my corpse yet.
15:21 Amaz reddit comments can get nasty at times!
15:21 sfan5 "reddit can get nasty at times!"
15:21 sfan5 ftfy
15:22 Calinou well, reddit is Hell on Earth pretty much
15:23 PenguinDad What is 4chan then?
15:24 * Calinou doesn't know
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15:26 jojoa1997 time to see if i can compile on windows .~.
15:28 Calinou meh
15:28 Calinou daily builds are made by trusted people
15:28 sfan5 Calinou: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWlSPxhHero
15:28 Calinou jojoa1997, forums has some info on it, wiki too
15:28 Calinou http://dev.minetest.net/Compilin​g_Minetest#Compiling_on_Windows
15:29 jojoa1997 i know
15:29 jojoa1997 what is the best linux like terminal i can install on windows?
15:29 jojoa1997 so i can run mintest/util/buildbot
15:30 jojoa1997 also
15:30 jojoa1997 the dev wiki says nothing about curl
15:31 PenguinDad jojoa1997: linux itself :P
15:31 * jojoa1997 stabs PenguinDad
15:31 jojoa1997 oh wait
15:32 jojoa1997 is the buildbot script for windows or linux?
15:32 PenguinDad jojoa1997: it's for linux
15:33 jojoa1997 darn
15:34 jojoa1997 how recent is sfan5's builds?
15:34 sfan5 (2 weeks ago)
15:34 sfan5 at least the last one
15:35 Exio jojoa1997, mintty ++ cygwin
15:36 jojoa1997 sfan5 make a python script to compile by windows
15:36 jojoa1997 afk swimming
15:36 sfan5 by windows?
15:36 sfan5 I am not sure how to compile by windows
15:36 sfan5 oh wait
15:36 sfan5 I'm already doing that
15:36 sfan5 my computer is next to a window
15:37 PenguinDad my computer is next to two windows
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15:38 Chibikitty http://minecraft.novaskin.me/​skin/6294136416108544/CatGirl
15:38 Chibikitty Here is the link Dezeel
15:39 sfan5 ^ cat ears
15:39 sfan5 :3
15:41 frogfish Hey jojoa1997
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15:42 MinetestBot minetest.org:30010 is up (577ms)
15:43 Calinou news flash: I no longer have 1000 comment karma
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15:45 Amaz Did someone plant a dynamite on your corpse?
15:45 frogfish Amaz, PvP is booooring
15:45 Amaz frogfish Yep
15:45 Calinou yes, I hope someone will defuse it
15:45 frogfish Well then
15:45 Amaz :P
15:45 Amaz watershed?
15:46 Amaz For an exploration map?
15:46 Amaz s/map/server
15:47 frogfish hmmm
15:47 frogfish Know how to use linux?
15:47 Amaz Me?
15:47 frogfish yeah
15:47 Amaz Yup.
15:47 frogfish Debian linux...
15:48 Amaz Yep.
15:49 frogfish nohup ./minetestserver --worldname [map] &
15:49 PenguinDad hopefully it's military dynamite
15:49 sfan5 frogfish: thats not a good way to host a server
15:49 sfan5 s/host/start/
15:50 frogfish Oh well
15:52 Calinou you should use screen
15:52 Calinou screen -R Minetest
15:53 Calinou ./minetestserver --worldname world; ./minetestserver --worldname world; ./minetestserver --worldname world
15:53 Calinou (a $ 2 auto-restart script :P)
15:53 Calinou then, after you did that, Ctrl + A then Ctrl + D to detach.
15:53 Calinou to rattach: screen -R Minetest
15:53 Calinou before exiting SSH session, be sure to detach.
15:53 frogfish I don't like screen much
15:53 Exio screen or tmux
15:54 sfan5 then use tmux
15:54 Exio ;_;
15:55 frogfish [detached from 12843.pts-2.atom]
15:55 frogfish And restoring?
15:56 frogfish omg awesome
15:56 sfan5 screen -r 12843.pts-2.atom
15:56 frogfish screen -r does it
15:57 sfan5 that only works if you only have one screen session
15:57 Calinou screen -R both creates and restores
15:57 Calinou the capital R is important
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15:59 Calinou jojoa1997, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=6&amp;t=9814&amp;p=149384#p149384
16:03 PenguinDad Is that guy talking to himself in that thread?
16:13 Calinou very nice, ExcaliburZero posted my thread on /r/minetest
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16:26 fu-fu sfan5: I've seen you before, starruler?
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16:37 jojoa1997 um
16:38 jojoa1997 on the dev wiki on cmake i need OPENAL_INCLUDE_DIR=C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenAL\include
16:38 jojoa1997 well there is nothing but oalinst.exe in that folder
16:38 jojoa1997 what is supposed to be in there and how can i get it since i already reinstalled it 3 times
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16:50 fling Which mods to use if I want weather and/or winter and/or biomes?
16:50 jojoa1997 fling give me a moment
16:51 fling jojoa1997: hello
16:51 jojoa1997 hi fling also do you want biomes from mods or mg7 biomes?
16:55 jojoa1997 fling Nore's mg is a good one https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=7263, and you should also check out paramat's mods for mapgen stuff https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?keywor​ds=&amp;terms=all&amp;author=paramat&amp;fid[]=11&fid[]=13&fid[]=15&sc=1&sf=titleonly&sr=t​opics&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
16:55 jojoa1997 sorry for the spam
16:56 fling jojoa1997: thanks :>
16:56 fling jojoa1997: I want to use nether mod
16:56 fling jojoa1997: idk what mapgen to choose
16:57 jojoa1997 any
16:57 jojoa1997 though
16:57 jojoa1997 you can make your own fling https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig​/blob/master/mods/mapgen/mapgen.lua#L21-L34
16:59 sfan5 fu-fu: whats starruler?
16:59 fling don't I need v7?
16:59 jojoa1997 fling yeah but Minetest 0.4.10 should have it right?
17:00 jojoa1997 also anyone know what redis version i need and what it does?
17:00 fling jojoa1997: right, but v6 is the default?
17:00 fling jojoa1997: redis does databases
17:00 fling jojoa1997: might work much faster than sqlite but depends
17:01 fling I have a separate box for redis but I'm not using it yet.
17:02 sfan5 jojoa1997: you need any function versio of libhiredis
17:03 Calinou it's not like sqlite is too slow
17:03 Calinou fling, Carbone makes some snow biomes.
17:03 Calinou very basic, but works.
17:03 Calinou at high altitudes
17:04 BlockMen ^ copied from MT+ and Wasteland :P
17:05 * sfan5 meows at BlockMen
17:06 * BlockMen gives sfan5 a fish
17:06 * sfan5 noms it
17:07 jojoa1997 hmm
17:08 jojoa1997 simple
17:08 jojoa1997 http://sfan5.pf-control.de​/libleveldb-1.15-win64.zip
17:08 fu-fu sfan5: The irc chat that I thought I recognised you from.
17:09 fu-fu sfan5: Well, it's a game, but it has a irc chat in it.
17:09 jojoa1997 btw the scripts in util/buildbot are for windows cause they have those downloads
17:09 sfan5 fu-fu: never heard of that
17:14 Calinou BlockMen, no, it uses ore generation
17:16 BlockMen Calinou, fine, "inspired" by MT+ and Wasteland ;)
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17:37 VanessaE LazyJ: *poke*
17:39 shadowzone Hi VanessaE.
17:40 VanessaE hey
17:42 Calinou hi shadowzone and VanessaE
17:42 Calinou VanessaE, there are updates to Map Tools (more nodes)
17:42 VanessaE hey Calinou
17:42 VanessaE oh yeah, saw that.
17:42 VanessaE gotta pull multiple updates again
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17:48 VanessaE Calinou: you use fake fire right?
17:49 Calinou map tools has fake fire, permanent fire, igniters
17:49 OldCoder Hello
17:49 VanessaE ah right, not the same one
17:49 VanessaE I was thinking of the one I use in dreambuilder
17:49 * VanessaE pokes LazyJ again
17:49 VanessaE hey OldCoder
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17:50 OldCoder
17:52 * LazyJ lifts his head off his drool covered keyboard.
17:52 Calinou well, the Fake Fire mod reinvents the wheel, I guess
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19:33 Exio does anyone know how to make a full backup of an usb key? if i was under linux i'd use "dd if=/dev/sdX of=.." or add a 'compression layer'
19:34 Exio i want to do that so i save the boot record of them, and how could that raw image as a virtual disk too?
19:34 Exio all under windoze
19:39 Vazon does the default client support cURL?
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20:03 bulletrulz heyllo
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20:05 sfan5 Exio: win32diskimager & 7zip
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20:06 hoodedice !seen Jordach
20:06 MinetestBot hoodedice: jordach was last seen at 2014-07-26 18:17:14 UTC on #minetest
20:07 Exio sfan5, k
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20:07 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
20:07 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
20:08 frogfish !c eval("*" * 2)
20:08 MinetestBot NameError: name 'eval' is not defined
20:08 frogfish :(
20:08 hoodedice dangit, I need Jordach
20:08 * frogfish needs a NAS
20:08 sfan5 hoodedice: for what?
20:09 hoodedice Steam stuff, unrelated to minetest.
20:09 hoodedice Ace Combat shifted ass to steamworks from crappy Games for Windows Live. Multiplayer will be amazing now
20:10 sfan5 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
20:10 hoodedice =|
20:12 frogfish uh-oh
20:12 frogfish Nick takeover
20:12 frogfish Will be interesting
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20:12 sfan5 frogfish: one of them (or both?) will get renamed to a random string
20:12 SylvieLorxu sfan5: I thought they'd both be killed?
20:12 john_minetest Hello
20:12 sfan5 SylvieLorxu: no
20:12 sfan5 Hello john_minetest
20:12 VanessaE I haven't seen a nick collision kill in ages
20:12 hoodedice yo john_minetest
20:12 SylvieLorxu Aww, that would've been a lot more fun
20:13 PenguinDad Hi john_minetest
20:13 frecel Ah good
20:13 frecel We'll see
20:13 hoodedice =/
20:13 bulletrulz anyone know a good n64 emulator for linux?
20:13 frecel I'm always on the small side of the netsplit
20:13 PenguinDad lol https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.ne​t/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/1377606_6556​32357823879_4311311610439197304_n.jpg
20:13 hoodedice bulletrulz, I have an idea
20:13 frecel Those 6 saw 117 people split, right?
20:14 hoodedice ask that on #ubuntu
20:14 SylvieLorxu frecel: Pretty sure, yeah
20:14 SylvieLorxu bulletrulz: Dolphin?
20:14 sfan5 bulletrulz: mupen64plus maybe
20:14 hoodedice You might even start a mini flame war while you're there
20:14 SylvieLorxu bulletrulz: http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/
20:14 frecel lol
20:14 SylvieLorxu Frankly, it's the only one I know
20:14 SylvieLorxu Others may be way better
20:14 bulletrulz SylvieLorxu, thanks but that gaamecube
20:14 sfan5 dolphin is great
20:15 SylvieLorxu Oh, oops
20:15 bulletrulz sfan5, the problem is no gui
20:15 SylvieLorxu Yeah, my bad
20:15 bulletrulz sfan5,  i mean i dont mind it just controls are hard to configure
20:15 hoodedice I know sfan likes dolphin
20:15 * sfan5 licks hoodedice
20:15 bulletrulz wow
20:15 bulletrulz lol
20:15 hoodedice Has been resharing loads of dolphin based tweets lately
20:15 sfan5 bulletrulz: I don't know of any one that has a a gui
20:16 sfan5 hoodedice: >1
20:16 hoodedice (And none of MinetestCommune tweets)
20:16 bulletrulz sfan5,  yeah thats what sucks
20:16 bulletrulz n64 is one of my favorite systems
20:16 frecel Hard disk 10MB/s _._
20:16 bulletrulz before nintendo became shit
20:16 hoodedice The last time I played a Nintendo emulator was for Ocarina of Time
20:16 sfan5 frecel: y u no RAID10 o RAID5?
20:17 hoodedice ...on Windows
20:17 frecel ...
20:17 frecel It's an external 1TB drive
20:17 frecel It has to be windows compatible for school though
20:17 frecel So shitty NTFS it is
20:17 sfan5 pff
20:17 sfan5 use an usb key
20:18 frecel The encrypted filesystem doesn't help a
20:18 frecel actual drive gets 20MB/sec
20:18 sfan5 do a 2nd partition with btrfs
20:18 * hoodedice has gone back to playing FlightGear
20:18 sfan5 done
20:18 * sfan5 curls up to hoodedices lap
20:18 frecel Half Life doesn't fit on ont of those
20:18 frecel Now I have OCD
20:18 frecel On the data sizes
20:18 * hoodedice hugs sfan5
20:19 * sfan5 meows at hoodedice
20:19 frogfish Took the poor Intel Atom a day to compile Grsec
20:19 * hoodedice hugs even harder, crushing sfan5's bones
20:19 hoodedice no homo
20:19 frogfish RAID5...
20:19 * sfan5 meows at hoodedice
20:19 frogfish rAIDS
20:19 frogfish Too slow
20:20 frogfish But i have the safest system on earth
20:20 * hoodedice barks back
20:20 sfan5 lol sure
20:20 frogfish 30char passphrase for Hard Disk, encrypted, Grsec patched
20:21 frogfish Now to lock the BIOS
20:21 sfan5 lol bios lock
20:21 sfan5 that won't get you anything
20:21 SylvieLorxu BIOS lock can be easily bypassed by getting rid of the BIOS battery shortly
20:21 bulletrulz i was thinking you think it would be just easier to use project64 on wine?
20:21 hoodedice ^Or the battery jumper
20:22 sfan5 hm
20:22 hoodedice bullet, try NOT to use wine as much as possible
20:22 bulletrulz i mean no$gba runs at full speed on a netbook when fucking desmumes runs at 5 fps
20:22 sfan5 30 char pass won't get you anything too
20:22 bulletrulz hoodedice, of cource
20:22 sfan5 depends on it's security
20:22 bulletrulz i use linux as much as i can
20:22 hoodedice weird, FG repos are open 21 days from new release
20:22 hoodedice Weird
20:22 bulletrulz lol
20:23 bulletrulz ima try pj64 and get back to ya
20:24 frogfish I wonder what's inside a sky hub...
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20:26 LemonLake Hmm...
20:26 frogfish Hi LL
20:26 LemonLake I'm hearing that people are impersonating me.
20:26 frogfish ...
20:26 * frogfish hides
20:27 * sfan5 licks LemonLake
20:27 LemonLake Would anyone happen to know who on MTX was pretending to be me?
20:27 sfan5 mtx?
20:27 LemonLake Idk, some server.
20:27 LemonLake mtz*
20:28 * frogfish logs on as LemonLake
20:28 sfan5 !server mtz
20:28 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
20:28 sfan5 !server z
20:28 MinetestBot sfan5: Onez' Minetest Server | mtzeno.com | Clients: 17/25, 11/24 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 200ms
20:28 LemonLake mtz-basic/mt-nostalgia
20:28 sfan5 !server nostalgia
20:28 MinetestBot sfan5: VanessaE's Nostalgia Server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30002 | Clients: 0/50, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / mt_nostalgia | Ping: 129ms
20:28 sfan5 !server nostalgia i:1
20:28 MinetestBot TypeError: object of type 'NoneType' has no len() (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 126, in server)
20:28 sfan5 hm
20:28 PenguinDad !server ping:most
20:28 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Craig's Server | craigd.24tails.com | Clients: 5/30, 1/8 | Version: 0.4.9-dev / Craig-Server | Ping: 579ms
20:28 sfan5 !server ping:least
20:28 MinetestBot sfan5: Spline Minetest Server | 130.133.110.246:9001 | Clients: 0/50, 4/20 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 19ms
20:29 * frogfish looks forward to the Host1Free email
20:29 * PenguinDad looks backward to the non-future
20:30 LemonLake !server mt-nostalgia
20:30 MinetestBot LemonLake: No results
20:30 LemonLake !server minetest-nostalgia
20:30 MinetestBot LemonLake: No results
20:30 LemonLake !server minetest nostalgia
20:30 MinetestBot LemonLake: No results
20:30 LemonLake hm
20:30 PenguinDad !server Nostalgia
20:30 MinetestBot PenguinDad: VanessaE's Nostalgia Server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30002 | Clients: 0/50, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / mt_nostalgia | Ping: 129ms
20:31 bulletrulz i love you MinetestBot
20:31 PenguinDad ^ LemonLake this is the server you are searching for
20:31 frogfish I don't particularly like MinetestBot
20:32 LemonLake it is indeed
20:32 bulletrulz frogfish,  dont you dare talk about MinetestBot
20:32 frogfish I mean, works as a bot
20:32 PenguinDad <3 MinetestBot
20:32 LemonLake i don't play minetest though
20:32 bulletrulz like that
20:32 LemonLake so i wouldn't know
20:32 frogfish <3 MinetestBot
20:32 MinetestBot <3 frogfish
20:32 frogfish
20:33 frogfish sfan5, use that
20:33 sfan5 y?
20:33 frogfish # encoding: UTF-8
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20:33 frogfish Dammit they lost the colour
20:34 sfan5 !rainbow ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤​❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤v
20:34 MinetestBot 4❤4❤4❤7❤7❤7❤8❤8❤8❤3❤3❤3❤❤❤❤6❤6❤6❤❤❤❤4❤4❤4❤7❤7❤​7❤8❤8❤8❤3❤3❤3❤❤❤❤6❤6❤6❤❤❤❤4❤4❤4❤7❤7❤7❤8❤8❤8❤3v
20:34 hoodedice Use ##minetestbot for all your spamming needs
20:34 frogfish \/
20:37 PenguinDad !seen Korck
20:37 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen korck around.
20:37 PenguinDad !seen Krock
20:37 MinetestBot PenguinDad: krock was last seen at 2014-07-25 01:54:54 UTC on #minetest
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20:40 bulletrulz ima try m64py
20:41 bulletrulz !seen mijyn
20:41 MinetestBot bulletrulz: mijyn was last seen at 2013-11-20 08:26:36 UTC on #minetest
20:41 bulletrulz damn! lol
20:41 sfan5 lol
20:41 bulletrulz !seen bulletrulz129
20:41 MinetestBot bulletrulz: bulletrulz129 was last seen at 2014-04-26 03:11:18 UTC on #minetest
20:41 bulletrulz !seen god
20:41 MinetestBot bulletrulz: Sorry, I haven't seen god around.
20:41 bulletrulz oh
20:41 frogfish * [god] (~god@xvm-102-176.ghst.net): god
20:42 bulletrulz !seen minetestboy
20:42 MinetestBot bulletrulz: Sorry, I haven't seen minetestboy around.
20:42 bulletrulz !seen minetestbot
20:42 MinetestBot bulletrulz: minetestbot was last seen at 2014-07-25 23:22:18 UTC on #freenode
20:42 bulletrulz okay im dont with you minetest
20:42 bulletrulz bot
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20:43 frogfish inb4 ignore from MinetestBot
20:43 PenguinDad !tell Krock your Pseudorandom is broken http://sprunge.us/MVMH
20:44 MinetestBot PenguinDad: I'll pass that on when Krock is around
20:44 * frogfish prefers ix.io
20:45 yaman hi frogfish
20:45 Exio ex.i
20:45 Exio o
20:45 * sfan5 licks Exio
20:45 frogfish Hi yaman
20:46 * PenguinDad meows at Exio
20:46 yaman can you host my pvp minigame?
20:46 frogfish Yeah, sure
20:46 frogfish Just err...
20:47 yaman ok
20:48 LemonLake !server nostalgia
20:48 MinetestBot LemonLake: 07-25 02:03 UTC <sfan5> http://cdn.awwni.me/o6mt.jpg
20:48 MinetestBot LemonLake: VanessaE's Nostalgia Server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30002 | Clients: 1/50, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / mt_nostalgia | Ping: 129ms
20:48 LemonLake OMG
20:48 LemonLake did you draw that?
20:48 LemonLake that's so good :D
20:48 sfan5 no
20:48 sfan5 I can't draw
20:48 LemonLake !clients
20:49 LemonLake !help
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20:49 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:49 sfan5 wtf are you thinking
20:49 LemonLake just a chance
20:49 LemonLake :)
20:49 LemonLake they're on nostalgia again
20:49 PenguinDad LemonLake: real coders can't draw ;)
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20:49 MinetestBot Megaf: 07-23 19:42 UTC <Krock> Happy B-day!
20:49 sfan5 <PenguinDad> LemonLake: real coders can't draw ;)
20:50 sfan5 ack
20:50 LemonLake they're saying they're new to minetest
20:51 john_minetest I am no real coder :'(
20:51 john_minetest :D
20:51 LemonLake neither am i
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20:51 john_minetest Every coding project I join turrns into an art project.
20:51 * frogfish is a real coder
20:51 bulletrulz so i got m64py to work the only problem is when i full screen it be studdring and shit lol
20:51 john_minetest Suddenly I am the pixel artist or 3d modeller.
20:52 Exio i'm not a real coder
20:52 john_minetest Or I am doing other graphics or logos
20:52 * frogfish wishes he could draw
20:52 Exio and i can't draw a circle properly
20:52 Exio :(
20:52 john_minetest I love doing vector graphics.
20:52 john_minetest And I like drawing, scanning and vectorizing things.
20:52 LemonLake so do i
20:55 Exio wish i could draw, or code!
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20:55 * frogfish can code, just not draw
20:56 * LemonLake can do both but is not good at either
20:56 * frogfish dreams in Lisp
20:56 LemonLake you need to see a shrink
20:56 frogfish The very language from which god wrought the universe
20:57 Exio frogfish, >god
20:57 sfan5 ^
20:57 frogfish Wikipedia lol
20:57 frogfish God wrote in Lisp code
20:57 frogfish http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/L​isp_%28programming_language%29
20:58 Exio what is nice about lisp is that the AST is the language itself
20:58 Exio McCarthy is god, so
20:58 sfan5 >Off-topic is allowed, but excessive use of it is disallowed.
20:59 * frogfish actually hates lisp, and perl
20:59 Exio why
20:59 Exio they're beautiful languages
21:00 frogfish I like Python
21:00 frogfish Just Python
21:00 sfan5 python is pretty nice
21:01 Exio frogfish, Nothing
21:01 frogfish (just (not (lisp (I (Hate (PARENTHESES ))))))
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21:01 frogfish sfan5, What's your favourite one?
21:01 sfan5 is is not obvious enough?
21:01 sfan5 python
21:02 frogfish Mhm booring
21:02 Exio Haskell and C
21:02 frogfish COBOL is cool
21:02 frogfish Grass Hopper =P
21:02 Exio yeah, it is a nice torture tool
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21:02 MinetestBot cg72: 06-19 05:52 UTC <asl> your pvp server's spawn is underground
21:02 PenguinDad COBOL always reminds me of FreedroidRPG
21:03 cg72 wow that one is outdated
21:03 cg72 anyone know lua and the api i need help
21:03 frogfish !api
21:04 * frogfish does and rtfm
21:04 PenguinDad !rtfm
21:04 cg72 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7878199/
21:04 MinetestBot someone thinks you should read the manual. The development wiki is at http://dev.minetest.net, the regular wiki is at http://wiki.minetest.net.
21:04 cg72 this abm will not work to save my life
21:05 cg72 well this isnt my first mod  mr rude!!!
21:05 LemonLake VanessaE?
21:05 sfan5 cg72: you need to do minetest.get_node first
21:05 bulletrulz anybody have any favorite ps1 games?
21:05 sfan5 then do minetest.get_item_group(node.name, "something")
21:06 * PenguinDad never had any PlayStation
21:07 cg72 sfan ty
21:07 * frogfish has a WiFi router not connected to the internet
21:07 frogfish Dang useful
21:07 frogfish For pissing off neighbours with it's SSID =D
21:08 * VanessaE hides
21:08 PenguinDad frogfish: is it called "Hard Di*k Drive"? :P
21:09 frogfish lol
21:09 frogfish I love my Hard Dicks
21:09 frogfish DISKS
21:09 sfan5 uh
21:09 frogfish The only reason we need SSDs
21:09 frogfish To avoid this misspelling
21:09 bulletrulz off on my journey to gain 150 stars
21:09 sfan5 solid state di*k?
21:09 bulletrulz lol
21:10 sfan5 not much better
21:10 PenguinDad RAM di*ks aren't better either
21:10 bulletrulz lol
21:10 frogfish volatile dick
21:10 frogfish idk why you use d*ck
21:11 bulletrulz penis jokes
21:11 frogfish *di*k
21:11 frogfish Wikipedia Hard Disk s/disk/dick
21:12 john_minetest SSDs are pretty cool. Seems that they hold pretty long. But I am a bit conservative when it comes to hardware. Intel 8086 and hand-weaved magnetic memory ftw!
21:13 sfan5 john_minetest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magn​etoresistive_random-access_memory
21:13 bulletrulz lol
21:14 PenguinDad I've changed my diet :D https://cdn.mediacru.sh/9l7EVqHsprXe.png
21:14 Exio k
21:14 sfan5 http://www.everspin.com/technology.php
21:14 sfan5 looks pretty awesome
21:14 * sfan5 meows at Exio
21:14 sfan5 PenguinDad: >ubuntu font >mem
21:14 sfan5 e
21:15 Exio that feeling when you thought you had the last free day...
21:15 Exio and it is actually a week...
21:15 PenguinDad sfan5: I didn't make that
21:15 sfan5 ShadowNinja: ping?
21:16 john_minetest Hand-weaved magnetic storages exist. I have seen one. Impressive.
21:16 hoodedice Heyo Amaz
21:16 Amaz Hello!
21:17 PenguinDad john_minetest: I've only seen hand-weaved cpus
21:17 hoodedice hah
21:17 frogfish Copying sed results now...
21:17 Amaz And goodbye :P
21:17 hoodedice !g hand made HDDs
21:17 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://www.instructables.com/​id/Hard-drive-platter-clock./
21:18 frogfish http://atom.uk.to/Editing%20Hard%20disk%20drive%20​-%20Wikipedia%2c%20the%20free%20encyclopedia.html
21:18 frogfish Enjoy!
21:18 frogfish upon spin-down, "taking off" again when the dick was later powered on.
21:18 frogfish An HDD records data by magnetizing a thin film of ferromagnetic material[c] on a dick.
21:18 frogfish LOL
21:18 john_minetest http://www.dhmo.org/
21:19 john_minetest Best patent ever: https://www.google.com/patents/US7791441
21:19 bulletrulz i heard theres a virus for ubuntu going around
21:20 john_minetest A virus for ubuntu? Which part of ubuntu?
21:20 Exio the user
21:20 * frogfish isn't worrried
21:20 frogfish He has Grsec
21:21 bulletrulz john_minetest, idk i just heard from a friend researchiing to see if its true
21:22 john_minetest I don't think that this virus is attacking the linux kernel.
21:22 john_minetest The kernel has a few bugs and can be exploited but the holes are closed really fast.
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21:23 bulletrulz lo
21:24 * frogfish wants to run a Sed statement on wikipedia
21:28 * bulletrulz is bored D:
21:29 bulletrulz funfact im banned from #minecraft
21:29 * frogfish isn't
21:29 * frogfish goes to #minecraft and says #minetest
21:30 bulletrulz frogfish they are n00bz over there
21:30 bulletrulz lol
21:30 frogfish I know
21:30 bulletrulz no but for realz i was just going over there saying hi
21:30 frogfish I've been there before
21:30 bulletrulz and there all like Fgt i kill you family 720p dvdrip
21:31 frogfish Anyone wanna watch?
21:31 bulletrulz what?
21:31 frogfish I'm gonna log
21:32 bulletrulz lol
21:32 Exio it is quite crazy to see what Lisp had in the 1958 ...
21:32 Exio Lisp pioneered many ideas in computer science, including tree data structures, automatic storage management, dynamic typing, conditionals, higher-order functions, recursion, and the self-hosting compiler
21:32 TheCephalopod D:
21:32 TheCephalopod GRMLN!
21:32 TheCephalopod I am still banned from #minecraft
21:33 VanessaE eh who cares about minecraft anyway
21:33 frogfish Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.
21:33 TheCephalopod I am immune.
21:33 jemadux joined #minetest
21:34 frogfish <Alan> oh good, a troll
21:34 frogfish They gots me
21:34 bulletrulz time to illigaly download playstation one games :#
21:34 frogfish ...
21:34 bulletrulz lol
21:35 bulletrulz damn final fantasy is huge :O
21:35 bulletrulz 2 gb for a playstastion 1 game
21:35 bulletrulz whatdashit#lol
21:35 frogfish They ain't banned me yet
21:36 bulletrulz they banned me
21:36 bulletrulz its quite funny
21:36 frogfish Developments: http://ix.io/dBO
21:37 bulletrulz i hate minecrft ever since. well 9 year olds found it and took over
21:37 frogfish bulletrulz, +1
21:37 bulletrulz i know that one day the same wil happen to minetest
21:37 frogfish bulletrulz, You should be quiet
21:37 bulletrulz but at this moment were in the clear
21:37 frogfish They got the serverlist
21:37 frogfish They will never take us alive!
21:37 bulletrulz lol
21:37 * bulletrulz pulls out a machete
21:37 bulletrulz lets go then!
21:38 frogfish Lolol
21:38 bulletrulz 4 HOURS REMAINING!!!!!! ARGH
21:38 frogfish <9yrold> IMA FUCKING DDOS U U SUN UF A BIACH
21:38 bulletrulz lol
21:39 frogfish trolling on Tor since 1998
21:39 bulletrulz i see like 9 year olds wearing shirts that say minecraft
21:39 bulletrulz im all like this is stupid af
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21:39 bulletrulz those mother fuckers dont even know what java is
21:39 niggafish Me be ready
21:39 frogfish ^^ me
21:39 bulletrulz there to bust playing minecraft on there xbox 360 to even know anything
21:40 bulletrulz aha your niggafish i see
21:40 niggafish <niggafish> I'm a troll
21:40 bulletrulz i know lol
21:40 niggafish <Ausmerica> !kban niggafish 7d
21:40 niggafish * You have been kicked from #minecraft by votd-bot (Banned by Ausmerica)
21:40 bulletrulz lol
21:40 niggafish Yup
21:40 bulletrulz lol
21:40 frogfish The beauty of IRC:
21:41 frogfish I mean
21:41 frogfish Err...
21:41 Exio .
21:41 frogfish Ima ssh to someone else and do that
21:41 Exio could you keep this out?
21:41 Exio of this nice channel?
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21:42 typical9yearold lo
21:42 typical9yearold i LOVE MINECRAFT ON MY XBOX
21:42 typical9yearold ITS SO FUN
21:42 frogfish Okay, that banned as well
21:42 bulletrulz lol
21:42 * GhostDoge barks at typical9yearold
21:42 frogfish 4 more servers to get through =D
21:43 typical9yearold lololololololololtoltolroltd
21:43 typical9yearold ejdok
21:43 typical9yearold dsfmd
21:43 typical9yearold bulletrulz out
21:43 typical9yearold left #minetest
21:43 bulletrulz lol
21:43 Mustek joined #minetest
21:43 frogfish Go to #minecraft and say Guess Who!
21:43 frogfish Please
21:43 bulletrulz lol i cant im banned D:
21:44 Mustek frogfish: Act like a mature person and stay the fuck out of there
21:44 GhostDoge "like a dungeonmaster but more laid-back"
21:44 bulletrulz WHY IS FINAL FANTASY FOR PS1 2GB!!!!!!!!!
21:44 frogfish bulletrulz, use Tor
21:44 bulletrulz WTF
21:44 Mustek frogfish: I understand your parents suck at learning you basic decensy, but get a fucking life.
21:45 bulletrulz ohhhh yeah!!!!
21:45 bulletrulz Mustek, i will fucking rape your dog you talk shit about frogfish
21:45 Mustek bulletrulz: Are you his little brother? Same parents, go figure
21:45 frogfish AHNS I WIHL DDOS YOU
21:45 VanessaE bulletrulz: wtf dude
21:45 bulletrulz lol
21:46 bulletrulz VanessaE, we just joking around
21:46 Mustek I shall take my leave here, I suggest you do the same from there
21:46 Mustek left #minetest
21:46 bulletrulz who was that douchbag?
21:46 frogfish Guess
21:46 frogfish lol
21:46 bulletrulz you?
21:46 frogfish No
21:46 bulletrulz oh
21:46 frogfish from #mineshit
21:46 bulletrulz oh
21:46 bulletrulz xD
21:47 frogfish goto ##anti-mc
21:47 bulletrulz what a douch
21:47 sfan5| joined #minetest
21:47 frogfish So we can stop spamming this nice channel
21:47 frogfish Just in time =P
21:47 bulletrulz bye bye lovelys
21:49 * GhostDoge barks at sfan5|
21:49 * TheCephalopod gives sfan5 a <'((((-<
21:49 Mustek joined #minetest
21:49 Mustek * ninganiga (mark@shell.bshellz.net) has joined #minecraft
21:49 Mustek <ninganiga> DOUCE!!!
21:49 Mustek <ninganiga> Nigger
21:49 sfan5 Mustek: yes i know
21:49 Mustek ah, you're here
21:49 sfan5 markv is a known troll
21:49 Mustek good to know
21:49 john_minetest joined #minetest
21:49 sfan5 I would like to sleep
21:49 john_minetest My hexchat crashed
21:49 Mustek left #minetest
21:50 sfan5 !ban *!*@unaffiliated/frogfish
21:50 sfan5 !kick frogfish
21:50 frogfish was kicked by MinetestBot: frogfish
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21:51 bulletrulz sfan5 that was mean
21:51 sfan5 idc
21:51 bulletrulz i still love you tho
21:51 bulletrulz give daddy a kiss
21:52 bulletrulz xD
21:52 sfan5 no
21:52 Gambit left #minetest
21:52 bulletrulz why not yolo
21:52 john_minetest yogohobo*****osogototo
21:52 GhostDoge sfan5 is a cat so yolo doesn't apply
21:53 john_minetest yolst
21:53 john_minetest orr yolnt
21:53 LemonLake who knew gimp takes so long to save...
21:53 john_minetest I think yolnt is correct.
21:53 sfan5 yes
21:53 john_minetest LemonLake: Gimp took pretty long to process my 12k x 14k image
21:53 Exio dammit
21:53 john_minetest iirc it crashed.
21:54 GhostDoge sfan5 is a cat so yolo doesn't apply
21:54 GhostDoge oops
21:54 bulletrulz lol
21:54 bulletrulz y09t
21:55 bulletrulz yo9t
21:55 LemonLake john_minetest: an image this simple takes ~6 secs to save
21:55 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/doyFW5chQMRh.png
21:56 john_minetest LemonLake: 1600x900?
21:56 john_minetest your screen
21:56 LemonLake 1920x1080
21:56 LemonLake what makes you think its 1600x900?
21:56 john_minetest Oh, it is cut at the edges.
21:56 LemonLake yes, yes.
21:56 cg72 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7878743/
21:56 john_minetest It is the window only and it is smaller than the screen.
21:56 john_minetest So it must be Full HD
21:57 cg72 why does this work 100% fine in 2 directions but not in the other 2???
21:58 * sfan5 goes to sleep
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21:58 LemonLake cg72: why are you looking for a node over the top bed?
21:58 john_minetest cya all
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21:59 cg72 ok its a bed bud if you place a bed over it it changes to a bunkbed
21:59 sfan5| ZZz...
21:59 cg72 and then back
21:59 LemonLake oh wait
21:59 LemonLake i see
21:59 cg72 but it works facing 2 ways the other 2 it fails bad
22:00 LemonLake well
22:00 LemonLake for one, you're redefining 'node'
22:00 LemonLake even though it's already defined ;)
22:00 cg72 huh?
22:00 LemonLake action = function(pos, node)
22:00 LemonLake local node = minetest.get_node(pos)
22:00 LemonLake also, you are setting param2 to the exact same thing.
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22:01 LemonLake nope, that's me being silly
22:01 LemonLake but you're unnecessarily redefining node
22:01 LemonLake your issue possibly comes from the fact that you are doing this. see likes 8 and 23.
22:02 cg72 well how the hell should i do it? i keep adding code and it works a bit more but im lost, this is the first time i had to do a node like this with facedir
22:02 LemonLake line 8, 23,  39 and 55.
22:02 LemonLake rename those variables, they look like your issue.
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22:03 MinetestBot Megaf: 07-23 19:42 UTC <markv> Happy Birthday!
22:03 cg72 but it over is a diferent node?
22:03 LemonLake cg72, you need to rename those variables
22:03 LemonLake you're redefining them, they've already been defined in the abm's function
22:03 LemonLake so some crazy shit is gonna happen
22:04 cg72 im fucking lost on what your saying
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22:15 Megaf !tell markv Thank you! :)
22:15 MinetestBot Megaf: yeah, yeah
22:15 Megaf !tell markv Thank you! :)
22:15 bulletrulz lol
22:15 Megaf yeah yeah?
22:16 Megaf !tell markv Thank you! :)
22:16 MinetestBot Megaf: I'll pass that on when markv is around
22:16 Megaf That's better
22:16 * GhostDoge licks Megaf
22:19 * GhostDoge goes to sleep
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22:27 64MAACF23 ok bows and arrows?
22:27 64MAACF23 i found something called throwing..few diff mods but they all fail
22:27 64MAACF23 something about naming concention
22:27 64MAACF23 convention that is
22:27 64MAACF23 wow..what happend to my nic
22:28 64MAACF23 brb
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22:28 grendal_prime_ there we go
22:28 grendal_prime_ so bows and arrows?
22:31 LemonLake is on_destruct called when using setnode?
22:34 grendal_prime_ is that for me?
22:35 LemonLake no, it is not
22:36 hoodedice !g pilzadam throwing
22:36 MinetestBot hoodedice: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2805
22:37 hoodedice grendal_prime_ ^
22:39 grendal_prime_ ya thats what im using
22:39 grendal_prime_ keep getting an icky error
22:40 hoodedice see last post
22:40 hoodedice cotton was changed to string in latest or so
22:42 grendal_prime_ the thingthat is really causing an issue is bow_wood does not follow naming conventions
22:43 grendal_prime_ actually its  throwing:bow_wood
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22:53 grendal_prime_ ya it just dont work
22:55 luizrpgluiz joined #minetest
22:56 luizrpgluiz hi
23:03 Vazon_ joined #minetest
23:05 grendal_prime_ so no bows and arrows
23:05 grendal_prime_ boy will be bumned
23:05 grendal_prime_ bumed that is.
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23:15 VanessaE "does not follow naming conventions"  normally just means you named the mod wrong.
23:15 VanessaE my guess is you named it (or left it) as throwing-master
23:16 VanessaE drop the -master part (and any -blahblah git commit IDs that might be there, too)
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23:22 MinetestBot shadowzone: 07-27 02:04 UTC <WidDos> Hey shadow make sure you tell me when ready do server so I can send you my mapgen. so there only few stuff on map.
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23:44 bulletrulz i cant tell you guys how much i love lubuntu
23:44 bulletrulz lol
23:44 bulletrulz alot
23:44 bulletrulz this room got quiet... wheres everyone at?
23:48 bulletrulz hmmmmmmmm boring
23:48 fu-fu I was just biking, and eating saskatoon berries.
23:48 SylvieLorxu Ubuntu, scrub :D
23:49 * SylvieLorxu is running Gentoo :D
23:49 * SylvieLorxu is also insane
23:49 SylvieLorxu Those two statements are related
23:49 SylvieLorxu No sane people run Gentoo
23:49 bulletrulz lol I DONT HAVE THE TIME FOR GENTOO xD
23:50 bulletrulz i need something that can install packages fast
23:50 bulletrulz and things that dont irritate me xD
23:50 bulletrulz lubuntu has just always worked for me
23:51 SylvieLorxu I've never ran Lubuntu, more of a KDE fan myself
23:53 bulletrulz well SylvieLorxu  i have a netbook so its the only thing that for me doesnt run slow.
23:54 bulletrulz well excluding bodhi linux
23:54 bulletrulz i dont like the fact bodhi is hard to configure
23:56 LemonLake whew...
23:56 LemonLake nearly done with the tamako market minim
23:56 LemonLake just got tamako's head to do
23:57 bulletrulz if you dont like saosin your not a real person
23:57 * bulletrulz likes hardcore music

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