IRC log for #minetest, 2014-07-27

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00:27	Miner_48er	!up 75.131.40.131
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00:28	grendal_prime_	hey guys, im building a server for my kids...(just installed this on there linux workstations and they are freaking out about this)
00:29	grendal_prime_	looking for mods...animals...creepers (i have no idea what these are they are just what the kids are saying they want)
00:29	grendal_prime_	any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
00:33	Miner_48er	grendal_prime_ https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=11
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01:21	grendal_prime_	i got this mod that...requires fire?
01:21	grendal_prime_	i cant find the fire mod
01:22	VanessaE	part of minetest_game
01:26	grendal_prime_	hey i just downloaded your interior decor mod
01:26	grendal_prime_	hehehe
01:26	VanessaE	you like? :)
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01:26	grendal_prime_	i have not had a chance to check it out yet
01:26	grendal_prime_	i have to get some animals for my daughter and some monsters for my son...then your mod
01:26	VanessaE	there's lots to do with it, also check the wikia article for it. crafting guide there.
01:27	grendal_prime_	ok so if fire is not installed with the game (seems odd)
01:27	VanessaE	http://minetest-home-decor.wikia.com/wiki/Minetest_Home_Decor_Wiki
01:27	VanessaE	if your game lacks fire, you lack the right game :)
01:27	VanessaE	get this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game
01:27	VanessaE	fire is one of the mods contained therein.
01:27	grendal_prime_	i installed from the repos for ubuntu 12.04
01:27	VanessaE	no, don't use that.
01:27	VanessaE	that's old, outdated.
01:28	VanessaE	(also, ubuntu 12.04 is outdated, but that's a lesser issue)
01:28	grendal_prime_	is there a repo...with moreupdated packages
01:28	VanessaE	use the daily builds repository
01:28	VanessaE	but use that ^^^^^^ github link for the game content
01:28	grendal_prime_	ya we will be upgrading to the 14.04 probably this next month
01:29	grendal_prime_	we have to verify allot before we can do that.
01:29	VanessaE	the most up-to-date minetest for ubuntu is this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds
01:29	grendal_prime_	kick ass thanks
01:29	VanessaE	so get that, and get minetest_game from the github link I just gave
01:29	VanessaE	the combination might be occasionally glitchy (it is bleeding edge) but it's always the latest dev build
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01:46	fu-fu	So I'm getting into programming again, and would like to start with a "bot" type-thing for minetest, and i'd like it to be a minetest player for what minetest can see, how should I go about doing that?
01:48	Partmedia	fu-fu, not sure a minetest bot is in everyone's interests ;)
01:49	fu-fu	Partmedia: Yeah... I can understand that, Ideally it would be implmented sever-side, so not everyone has to deal with it.
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01:50	jojoa1997	hello
01:50	fu-fu	greetings
01:50	jojoa1997	hi fu-fu
01:51	* jojoa1997	licks fu-fu
01:51	Exio	hi
01:51	* jojoa1997	has a sudden urge to give Exio kitten generator
01:52	Partmedia	fu-fu, if on server side, consider a mod (using Lua)
01:54	grendal_prime_	ok VanessaE i got the 4.10 installed..but you are saying there is a diff...game file as well?
01:55	fu-fu	Partmedia: Do you know of a mod that has anything that can build stuff?
01:56	fu-fu	Partmedia: Or would I be having to make a fullout re-implmentation of the player in the mod?
01:56	grendal_prime_	im looking at github...where does this file go?
01:57	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: download the repo, name it minetest_game and put it in ~/.minetest/games
01:57	VanessaE	this is the actual game content
01:57	VanessaE	minetest (without the word _game) is the engine that runs it and only comes with a simple testing platform by default usually
01:58	VanessaE	minetest_game is the so-called "default" sub-game. other subgames include things like Carbone, Dreambuilder, Nodetopia, and a bunch of others.
02:00	grendal_prime_	wow
02:00	grendal_prime_	ok so i made a dir called games...and put the unziped folder into it. ./minetest/games/minetest_game-master
02:00	VanessaE	remove the word "-master" from the filename
02:01	grendal_prime_	i did good..oh ok will do
02:01	VanessaE	and if you are using that PPA, the folder belongs in your homedir, ~/.minetest/games/minetest_game
02:01	VanessaE	(note the dot)
02:02	grendal_prime_	ya i got that part..ive been around the nix block a few times
02:02	VanessaE	ok :)
02:02	VanessaE	never know :)
02:02	grendal_prime_	oh no i know exactly what your checking up on.
02:02	jojoa1997	hi VanessaE :-)
02:02	VanessaE	some folks here use Linux but...are not too bright
02:02	VanessaE	hey jojo, long time
02:03	jojoa1997	yeah long time
02:03	grendal_prime_	grendal_prime == kvm engineer.
02:03	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: I would say you know your shit then ;)
02:03	jojoa1997	also anyone know where i can get a recent guide to compiling minetest?
02:03	VanessaE	jojoa1997: in the README, it's still relevant.
02:03	grendal_prime_	i have certs for vmware but its two expensive
02:03	jojoa1997	VanessaE still fails
02:04	VanessaE	jojoa1997: pastebin your errors
02:04	jojoa1997	maybe i should try not to use mvsc
02:04	VanessaE	oh, windows compiling. ick.
02:04	jojoa1997	oh yeah
02:04	VanessaE	can't help you there :)
02:04	jojoa1997	linux i am fine but windows is meh
02:04	jojoa1997	and i dont use linux anymore :/
02:05	VanessaE	why not?
02:05	VanessaE	just get the latest sfan5 build btw. it's quite recent.
02:05	fu-fu	^
02:05	fu-fu	erm the whynot linux*
02:06	jojoa1997	i want to build it myself so i can test some c++ i am learning and i am tired of reinstalling linux. using a usb to hdd connection keeps corrupting my partition
02:06	VanessaE	jojoa1997: ohhhh
02:06	VanessaE	understood.
02:07	jojoa1997	though
02:07	VanessaE	as for building it...well... um...
02:07	* VanessaE	hides :)
02:07	jojoa1997	when i get a new computer for college i will probably dual boot it windows/linux
02:07	jojoa1997	http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
02:07	SoniEx2	VanessaE, have I told you about my HDD failure?
02:07	Hirato	mine failed last year
02:07	VanessaE	SoniEx2: no?
02:08	Hirato	came out of nowhere, took lots of stuff with it
02:08	VanessaE	I don't recall you mentioning it
02:08	VanessaE	Hirato: "Backups, checks, etc. This would NOT happen."
02:08	jojoa1997	should i use irrlicht sdk 1.8.1 or 1.7.3
02:08	jojoa1997	lol Vadtec
02:08	VanessaE	jojoa1997: use 1.8./
02:08	SoniEx2	VanessaE, yeah my HDD died :/ (the data is recoverable but meh that'll be too expensive :/ and it'll need a clean room...)
02:08	Hirato	use whatever
02:08	VanessaE	1.8*
02:09	Hirato	I only have space for 120GB of backups :/
02:09	VanessaE	SoniEx2: ouch.
02:09	SoniEx2	VanessaE, so now I'm on Linux :P
02:09	jojoa1997	lol VanessaE backups
02:09	VanessaE	if you can afford a PC, you can afford a second HDD to make backups with.
02:09	fu-fu	^
02:09	jojoa1997	VanessaE backups dont help you reinstall ubuntu 6 times
02:09	VanessaE	this is ESPECIALLY true if you use a laptop/notebook.
02:09	grendal_prime_	why would you do that?
02:09	jojoa1997	and the 21 other OSes that i broke
02:09	VanessaE	jojoa1997: backups are for your personal data, not your OS.
02:09	Hirato	if I ignore steam games and crap I can just clone/checkout again, that's easily 500mB I don't haveto backup
02:10	grendal_prime_	anyway...vanessa
02:10	grendal_prime_	19:08:06: ERROR[main]: /home/sgraham/.minetest/mods/pilzadammobs/init.lua:1: attempt to concatenate a nil value
02:10	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: unreliable USB <-> HDD interface.
02:10	jojoa1997	i know
02:10	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: rename that one to just "mobs"
02:10	Hirato	which leaves music and um.... "things"
02:10	SoniEx2	(my reasons: 1. too lazy to install windows (not too lazy to install arch linux tho, eh) 2. the only windows CD I have is cracked 3. C)
02:10	fu-fu	I personally use btrfs snap-shots, and backup my /home and /etc and a few /var to my old crappy pc. I counted the size of all the backups: 4TB, but it's actually just like 80GB.
02:10	grendal_prime_	i use rsnapshot on my filer
02:11	jojoa1997	VanessaE due to testing for highschool I have broken different linux OSes over 38 times. I stopped counting after that
02:11	Hirato	installing windows takes ages, which is to say nothing of installing applications after
02:11	VanessaE	I just rsync in incremental mode, to a USB-connected disk every so often
02:11	grendal_prime_	hasnt failen in any of the 8 installs ive done for corporate.
02:11	jojoa1997	I blame slow download speeds
02:11	Hirato	it's an annoying and easy way to waste a full day doing nothing productive
02:11	grendal_prime_	ya, rsnapshot uses rsync to do incramentals.
02:12	grendal_prime_	rools them into dailys weekelys and months. with no additional space required..well little anyway.
02:12	Hirato	meanwhile on Linux, I can get arch up and running and sort of configured in about 30 minutes, then another 30 to get basic crap like KDE installed so I have a working environment, then it's back to business :P
02:12	fu-fu	Hirato: I took a compressed DD of a fresh install of a small partiton and then expand it, works well.
02:12	VanessaE	jojoa1997: I've re-installed a few times, enough that I've made a point to script it. mostly for paranoia reasons. if I even think I've fucked it up beyond easy repair, I'll just run a quick backup of my personal data, re-install, and run my "put everything back the way I want it" script :)
02:12	fu-fu	(for windows)
02:12	Hirato	haha
02:13	VanessaE	I'm back up to snuff in like 2 hours.
02:13	SoniEx2	I wish minetest was C :(
02:13	jojoa1997	VanessaE yeah well that would be like 8 hours for me
02:13	Hirato	C++ actually does have some nice.convenient additions
02:13	grendal_prime_	i had to build a windows box the other day for school. i had not done this in some time. it took 2 days to get all the updates installed...(im not shitting you)
02:14	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: ouch
02:14	SoniEx2	C++ is meh
02:14	Hirato	sounds about right
02:14	SoniEx2	or ew, not sure
02:14	grendal_prime_	it hold you hostage on reboots as well
02:14	VanessaE	the day I have to go back to windows is the day I think I'll just give up computers and go live in a convent or something :P
02:14	grendal_prime_	you can do anything tell it finishes.
02:14	grendal_prime_	cant that is
02:14	Hirato	well yeah, 90% of the additions are either useless or best described as a "shotgun to the foot" :p
02:14	SoniEx2	VanessaE, I say windows is dead, SteamOS is the next big thing
02:15	Hirato	both good and bad
02:15	Hirato	good: it's linux
02:15	SoniEx2	(and ChromeOS and stuff)
02:15	VanessaE	could be - isn't that based around a Linux kernel or so?
02:15	Hirato	bad: it's GNOME!!!
02:15	VanessaE	Hirato: what's the ugly?
02:15	SoniEx2	VanessaE, Steam
02:15	Hirato	haha
02:15	VanessaE	(if gnome is only "bad")
02:15	SoniEx2	because proprietary :P
02:15	VanessaE	haqha
02:15	VanessaE	haha
02:15	jojoa1997	oh God the windows is bad thing
02:15	fu-fu	SoniEx2: Isn't the PS4 baised on freeBSD too?
02:16	SoniEx2	fu-fu, idk
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02:17	fu-fu	SoniEx2: Doing a quick google, it does, aswell as grub it seems.
02:17	SoniEx2	oh cool
02:17	grendal_prime_	ok that seems to have worked...however the player has no tools...
02:18	grendal_prime_	wich will piss the kids off
02:18	grendal_prime_	so i need to get these guys some stuff to beat up so i can get back to my studdies.
02:18	grendal_prime_	shes 13 hes 11 ...suggestions on mods?
02:18	SoniEx2	grendal_prime_, you should get kids like me
02:19	SoniEx2	then instead of spending time installing games, you spend money buying C books
02:19	grendal_prime_	use to own a bookstore.
02:20	SoniEx2	I've been messing with programming since I was 12 (I'm 15 now)
02:20	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: give initial stuff
02:20	* jojoa1997	engages stalker mode
02:20	Exio	<- since 10
02:20	Exio	and i'm not a h4x0r
02:20	VanessaE	there's some config option for that, check minetest.conf.example
02:21	Exio	i wish i had the posibility of having advanced courses of calculus (compared to what i should be learning) ++ and also programming when i was child
02:21	SoniEx2	I'm also known for shouting at ppl when they're doing things wrong :/
02:21	VanessaE	# Gives some stuff to players at the beginning
02:21	VanessaE	#give_initial_stuff = false
02:21	grendal_prime_	what is seed for?
02:21	VanessaE	there it is.
02:22	grendal_prime_	thats not managable via the gui though right?
02:22	VanessaE	actually I thought it was?
02:22	* VanessaE	checks
02:22	jojoa1997	it is
02:22	VanessaE	yes, it is
02:22	jojoa1997	the seed can be set by the gui
02:22	SoniEx2	seed? as in world/generator seed?
02:22	jojoa1997	yeah
02:23	jojoa1997	The wiki says libvorbis headers are here http://xiph.org/downloads/
02:23	SoniEx2	(that question was for grendal_prime_ btw)
02:23	jojoa1997	do i download the 1.3.4?
02:23	jojoa1997	or should i find 1.3.3
02:23	VanessaE	get 1.3.4, jojoa1997. should be fine.
02:24	jojoa1997	ok thanks
02:24	grendal_prime_	ya
02:24	grendal_prime_	world generator seed
02:24	jojoa1997	Also VanessaE how are your mods and servers going?
02:24	VanessaE	the servers are meh
02:24	SoniEx2	grendal_prime_, you know how PRNGs work?
02:24	VanessaE	but my mods are doing well
02:24	jojoa1997	grendal_prime_ seed 0 is fun
02:25	jojoa1997	I used to talk so much in the forums but now it is just too much to read it all
02:25	grendal_prime_	dont know didliy i dont game much...network and virt infrastructure engineer.
02:25	* jojoa1997	wishes for a time with less people kinda
02:25	VanessaE	I don't read the forums actively anymore
02:25	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: the seed value is used to start off the random number generator for the perlin noise functions in the mapgen
02:25	grendal_prime_	oh also vanessaE is it possible to build a headless server?
02:26	grendal_prime_	ok..
02:26	SoniEx2	grendal_prime_, PRNG = Pseudo Random Number Generator
02:26	Exio	hm?
02:26	grendal_prime_	thanks
02:26	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: oh sure, my servers run on a dedi up in canada.
02:26	VanessaE	cmake . -DBUILD_CLIENT=0
02:26	VanessaE	(among the other -Dxxxx options)
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02:26	jojoa1997	what?
02:27	jojoa1997	VanessaE i thought you used your computers at home?
02:27	Exio	he did
02:27	Exio	she
02:27	Exio	like, a lot ago?
02:27	Exio	:P
02:27	VanessaE	jojoa1997: not in a llooooooong time
02:27	* jojoa1997	wonders how long he has been gone
02:27	VanessaE	I moved the servers to a VPS for a short while at Linode (in Atlanta, GA), then moved them to a dedi up in Ontario I think is where they are. OVH datacenter. Been there ever since.
02:28	VanessaE	jojoa1997: at least 6 months I guess.
02:28	grendal_prime_	I build virtual game servers for the kids on the poweredge in the garage. but if i can avoid putting a desktop on the things it saves me alot of space.
02:28	jojoa1997	what!?
02:28	fu-fu	?
02:28	jojoa1997	5th most posts
02:28	jojoa1997	still
02:28	Exio	VanessaE, remember if you changed it in 2014 or 2013? :P
02:28	Exio	because you spammed so much ... jojoa1997
02:28	jojoa1997	geesh i didnt think i was that spammy?
02:28	jojoa1997	oh
02:29	Miner_48er	grendal_prine_ you can do it without a gui
02:29	jojoa1997	i never used the edit topic thing
02:29	VanessaE	Exio: I don't remember, but it's been a while.
02:29	jojoa1997	but i wasnt that spammy
02:29	fu-fu	grendal_prime_: virtual game servers? Oh, do you just mean it runs the servers for your kids?
02:29	VanessaE	Exio: but I think I went to the dedi this year.
02:29	VanessaE	VPS last year.
02:29	Exio	that is what i thought
02:30	jojoa1997	Exio in the beggining i was a noob at forums but i am pretty sure i was straitened out by the comunity
02:30	Exio	last change this year, but 8 months since you're using VPSes i thin
02:30	Exio	straitened?
02:30	Exio	could you rephrase that?
02:30	VanessaE	you, straightened out? HAH!
02:31	VanessaE	we got you ALL bent out of shape :P
02:32	jojoa1997	i see
02:32	jojoa1997	i left Minetest begining of Janurary
02:32	jojoa1997	and just popped on here and there
02:33	jojoa1997	ahh
02:33	jojoa1997	that is when i switched to Freeminer
02:33	grendal_prime_	fufu.. dedicated machines they are virutual...vaporware...
02:33	Exio	>freeminer
02:33	grendal_prime_	i can clone one configure it and have it online in less than 10 min
02:34	jojoa1997	freeminer is nice Exio when it isnt freezing for me
02:34	VanessaE	freeminer....
02:34	* VanessaE	scowls.
02:34	fu-fu	grendal_prime_: But they arn't like "Kids, go play on the virtual mechines" they just host the servers, not the game clients.
02:35	grendal_prime_	entire machine is fake, all in one file..but..you wouldnt know it. Runs on 16 core Xeons Very stable.
02:35	grendal_prime_	yes and no..i mean they can xrdp into machines that run certain apps for them.
02:35	VanessaE	be aware that minetest can be a resource hog :)
02:36	grendal_prime_	i understand..there are 16 gigs of ram just for personal stuff
02:36	fu-fu	grendal_prime_: Yeah, but they're not going to load up crysis and play it over it. That was my origonal thought of it, and hence the "holy shit."
02:36	grendal_prime_	whats that?
02:36	fu-fu	it's a very graphics intensive game.
02:37	grendal_prime_	gigabit switch and spice enabled server...should work fine
02:37	grendal_prime_	but i will say the implimentation is not typically used for gaming
02:37	grendal_prime_	game servers though...usually do not need alot of display "stuff"
02:38	jojoa1997	[22:34:03] <28VanessaE> freeminer....
02:38	jojoa1997	[22:34:06] * 28VanessaE scowls.
02:38	jojoa1997	:O
02:38	VanessaE	well I mean CPU-intensive
02:38	jojoa1997	how dare you
02:38	VanessaE	jojoa1997: no, seriously.
02:38	* jojoa1997	scowles too
02:38	VanessaE	freeminer is not well-looked-upon now.
02:38	grendal_prime_	VanessaE, ya there are 16 of those on that server
02:38	Exio	minetest doesn't uses more than two cores nicely
02:38	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: good deal. just bear in mind that it's not very multithread aware. needs a lot of work in that department.
02:38	jojoa1997	VanessaE freeminer is nice but Minetest also jumped up in my view cause of the added features to default
02:38	fu-fu	grendal_prime_: yeah, I was thinking it was like a personal onlive server for some dumb terminals your kids have.. idk why I was thinking that.. but that's what I was thinking.
02:39	VanessaE	jojoa1997: the latest minetest really works quite well now.
02:39	VanessaE	but still has a ways to go
02:39	* jojoa1997	places a cat on VanessaE's lap
02:39	grendal_prime_	thats fine..i just give them an entire core
02:39	jojoa1997	same
02:39	* VanessaE	puts the cat in OldCoder's pile
02:39	jojoa1997	OldCoder ...
02:39	SoniEx2	grendal_prime_, wait, 16 CPUs * 16 cores each?
02:39	jojoa1997	Oh gosh memories are comming back
02:40	OldCoder	Hi
02:40	OldCoder	jojoa1997, Hi!
02:40	OldCoder	VanessaE, meow!
02:40	VanessaE	hey OldCoder
02:41	OldCoder	yeh
02:41	grendal_prime_	no no...2 cpus at 8 each.
02:42	VanessaE	grendal_prime_: nice box
02:42	grendal_prime_	virtual stuff works different. it handles all of the multithreading for you.
02:42	grendal_prime_	dell poweredge 1650 very good box...hardly uses any power as well.
02:43	grendal_prime_	its cheep to....because it only has 3 hd s
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02:43	grendal_prime_	but i use a jbod for backups they run pretty frequently...
02:43	grendal_prime_	i have a video...ummm hold on
02:44	grendal_prime_	http://resume.booksnmore.com/videos.php?selected_video=scriptable-vm-backup.webm
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02:46	RavonTUS	Greetings
02:46	Miner_48er	hi
02:46	Exio	just watched madagascar 3
02:46	RavonTUS	Anyone know what I'm missing on this error?? [Mod mob_basics] Error: '/home/mrbrown/.minetest/worlds/stampyworld/mod_mob_basics.data' not found.
02:46	grendal_prime_	that video shows some older equiment.
02:46	Exio	LSD-sponsored movie
02:47	grendal_prime_	i still use those for backups, incase i loose any of the 1650s
02:47	grendal_prime_	LSD?
02:48	Miner_48er	RavonTUS does that file exist?
02:49	jojoa1997	hi OldCoder
02:49	OldCoder
02:49	* VanessaE	scoops up a couple of stray kittens and puts them back in OldCoder's pile
02:49	Exio	the puss in boots movie is quite trippy
02:50	OldCoder
02:50	grendal_prime_	exio however that video does show live hot migration.
02:50	* jojoa1997	gives OldCoder sfan5
02:50	Exio	what?
02:50	jojoa1997	what? sfan5 is a cat
02:51	grendal_prime_	the video of the virtual hosts and how to manage them...there is hot migration where i move a running instance of a web server from one host to another while its running.
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02:57	RavonTUS	Found source and updated the files, thanks Miner.
02:59	Miner_48er	everything working?
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03:10	grendal_prime_	where did everyone go?
03:11	Miner_48er	no where, it's just no one is talking.
03:12	grendal_prime_	wel they were right before you logged in....you got a bad rep?
03:13	Miner_48er	no
03:14	SoniEx2	I'm going to bed, it's over midnight and I'm tired. good night
03:15	grendal_prime_	so...that line about adding default gear didnt work
03:16	grendal_prime_	give_initial_stuff = true
03:16	grendal_prime_	didnt do anything for my peeps
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03:20	Miner_48er	where there player files already created?
03:20	grendal_prime_	i got it working...i had to just recreate the world
03:20	grendal_prime_	that sounds complicated but its really not ..hehehe
03:20	grendal_prime_	i feel allot like god right now..
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03:21	grendal_prime_	boom...crash...destry..changes laws of physics...whammo...
03:21	grendal_prime_	"ok kids have at it!"
03:22	grendal_prime_	all in all its ok...makes me look like a god to my kids...
03:22	grendal_prime_	bunch of nerd voodoo that they tell their friends is "Sick" and "Epic"
03:23	grendal_prime_	pretty funny really
03:24	fu-fu	Question, trying to get position of pointed thing, everything just crashed. "attempt to index local 'pointed_thing' (a nil value)" the wiki isn't helping.
03:26	Miner_48er	paste the line of code if it's under 3 lines or use a paste service.
03:27	Miner_48er	grendal_prime_ http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
03:27	fu-fu	pos = minetest.get_pointed_thing_position(pointed_thing, above)
03:28	fu-fu	and it's just a chat command
03:28	grendal_prime_	Miner_48er, what are you talking about
03:28	Miner_48er	grendal you asked about the lack of conversations
03:31	fu-fu	I'd think it'd want an entity to yaknow have an entity..?
03:31	fu-fu	for the posfacing.. idk
03:32	Miner_48er	yes the example should help http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_pointed_thing_position
03:34	fu-fu	Not really.. i'ma test something though...
03:34	fu-fu	Nope
03:35	fu-fu	How don't understand the pointed_thing, or how to get it.
03:35	fu-fu	I don't*
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03:41	Miner_48er	fu-fu here's some code that uses it https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7846#p139019
03:44	Miner_48er	fu-fu did that help?
03:46	fu-fu	Derp, I'm still trying to figure out where pointed_thing comes from. It doesn't seem to be like a function call itself, just a variable/object.. which pops out of thin air.
03:49	Miner_48er	what are you using pointed_thing to do?
03:49	fu-fu	And now it doesn't seem to crash (because it's defined in function variables), but it's not returning a position
03:49	fu-fu	I'm trying to have it, return the position of what the player is looking at. (Via a chat command.)
03:53	Miner_48er	fu-fu http://dev.minetest.net/pointed_thing
03:55	fu-fu	Miner_48er: Yeah, I've seen that too.. I think there's just some weird way of calling it that I seem to be missing that's not in the wiki. I'm just going to steal the player pos because that actually works. Thank you though.
03:56	Miner_48er	ok
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04:23	grendal_prime_	ok
04:24	grendal_prime_	so just because im lazy and i dont plan on doing development on this.....whole thing...i dont really want to spend alot of time looking into the client server model on this...im going to assum that the mods and whatnot only need be installed on the acting server?
04:24	grendal_prime_	or do they need to be distributed to all the clients as well?
04:25	fu-fu	Just the server, the clients will download it as needed.
04:26	grendal_prime_	oh thank god in heaven..(or...budah...or...whoever you want) for that..
04:27	grendal_prime_	so if i am just running the server...how do i call this bad boy up?
04:28	grendal_prime_	log in as the user.. run /minecraft.jar -f pathtoconfigfile?
04:28	grendal_prime_	sorry mintest.jar
04:28	Miner_48er	jar?
04:29	grendal_prime_	i was being silly
04:30	grendal_prime_	wife made pasta...and when she does that (especially with the eggplant from our garden) i have to have a couple of glases of vino to really be in the boundrys of my strict diet.
04:30	grendal_prime_	it does make me a bit loopy though
04:32	grendal_prime_	is there something i can install that will put me on planet endor?
04:32	grendal_prime_	something with some resources...i keep getting these...well they look allot like death valley
04:32	grendal_prime_	but even flatter
04:35	fu-fu	Aww what, when was finite liquid removed!? I call poop.
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04:37	Miner_48er	fu-fu re enable it
04:43	grendal_prime_	werid...minetest is nice. Ok so i can fire that up on the server is there a client for creating worlds from remote or is that all done from command line?
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04:50	Miner_48er	grendal_prime_ You can create the world either way. If using the client the world can be transfered to the server.
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05:07	grendal_prime_	ya but im confused do i put the mods into the world folder
05:08	Miner_48er	mods or worldmods
05:08	Miner_48er	either one
05:08	grendal_prime_	oh i dont see one of those..
05:08	grendal_prime_	does that go inside them world. folder
05:11	Miner_48er	mods is in the root folder and worldmods is in worlds/name/worldmods
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05:47	grendal_prime_	alright all seems good now
05:47	grendal_prime_	sheep to kill, creapers biting them in the middle of the night.
05:47	grendal_prime_	they should be happy
05:48	Miner_48er	good
05:48	grendal_prime_	so question this server logs all this right? if i shut down the server and bring it back up..will it loose all their shit?
05:48	Miner_48er	no that is stored in the world file and there player files
05:49	Miner_48er	correct way to shutdown is from inside the game using /shutdown
05:50	grendal_prime_	ya im just thinking..if it crashes or i have to shut it down for updates.
05:51	grendal_prime_	so if i add mods to it, i need to restart the world it wont loose there stuff and they can pick up right were they left off but have the new mods enabled.
05:51	Miner_48er	do you know how to enable mods?
05:52	grendal_prime_	i would assume in the conf file
05:52	grendal_prime_	for the world?
05:53	grendal_prime_	hmm isnt one for there
05:53	Miner_48er	no good guess
05:54	Miner_48er	worlds/name/world.mt
05:54	grendal_prime_	putting them into the worldmods folder but then where to set it as enabled i dont know
05:54	grendal_prime_	ah ok
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05:54	grendal_prime_	load_mod_mobs = true
05:55	grendal_prime_	that lods the mobs mod
05:55	grendal_prime_	so if i have one called tnt..wich i do...it would be
05:55	grendal_prime_	load_mod_tnt = true
05:56	Miner_48er	yes
05:56	grendal_prime_	got it...so whats the deal with textures?
05:57	Miner_48er	?
05:58	grendal_prime_	wow...that really cleans things up
05:58	grendal_prime_	http://minetest.net/_detail/minetoon03.png?id=texturepacks
06:00	Miner_48er	Are you looking for how to install texture packs or the download links?
06:05	grendal_prime_	i got the dowloaded im just looking into installing now
06:07	grendal_prime_	i was just wondering if they could be added the same way the mods could...like worldtexture
06:08	grendal_prime_	or something like that
06:08	Miner_48er	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=19837#p19837
06:10	grendal_prime_	ya im reading that..but when it says minetest directory does it mean /home/user/.minetest/ and then we add textures ?
06:10	grendal_prime_	cause currently there is no textures dir in there
06:11	grendal_prime_	oooo it explains..also it needs to go in the textures/all dir
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06:20	Exio	making a cobol parser is probably a pain
06:21	Exio	even worse than writing in cobol itself
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07:18	grendal_prime_	damn it..im going to bed...you cant stop me ..watch me go
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07:36	Calinou	http://dpaste.com/128W7SG â†’ is there any fix for this?
07:40	sfan5	probably
07:44	puhfa	gsub <3
07:44	puhfa	could it have been 3 or 2 characters? 4 seems an awful lot of wasted hdd space
07:46	Calinou	gsub = ?
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08:12	puhfa	i have no idea
08:13	puhfa	the only thing it reminds me of is the good old GOSUB and oh god i dont wanna remember
08:22	pitriss	gsub should be something to replace substrings by defined string
08:22	pitriss	at least in ruby and probably also in lua
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09:15	LazyJ	VanessaE, are you still up and about?
09:17	LazyJ	The new signs in HomeDecor aren't line(word?)-wrapping. Try typing out a single, long line of text and you'll see.
09:18	LazyJ	I left an issue on GitHub. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to put the bug in your ear or kaeza's.
09:19	LazyJ	The problem exists in Xban2's GUI so maybe it's kaeza I should pull aside the next time I see him online?
09:20	Calinou	oh, I'd like signs where you can write multiple lines indeed
09:20	Calinou	normal ones, not ones where you see text in the world (that's silly)
09:21	sfan5	meow
09:21	sfan5	hi everyone
09:21	LazyJ	Agreed. HomeDecor's signs would be nice to have in the base game.
09:21	Calinou	s/nice/crap
09:22	LazyJ	Particularly if they can display non-latin characters.
09:22	Calinou	dynamic text is the cause of slow down of the game, it's an hack, it's hard to read
09:22	Calinou	it's non-standard
09:22	Calinou	it's exactly what the base game shouldn't have
09:22	LazyJ	The white text of the default signs disappears to easily on light colored backgrounds making them useless.
09:23	Calinou	use outlined text
09:23	Calinou	sorry if you're stuck in outline-less era
09:23	LazyJ	Looking at the sky, against a white building, these are things I've run into a lot.
09:23	Calinou	(same goes for font being too small: font_size = 18)
09:23	Calinou	http://paste.ubuntu.com/7873453/
09:23	Calinou	good for 1920 Ã— 1080
09:23	LazyJ	Aye. Too small, especially the names above the players.
09:24	Calinou	doesn't fix names above players though
09:24	LazyJ	Even a flat, dark field behind the white characters would be an improvement in legibility.
09:24	Calinou	dark field is a setback invented by Minecraft
09:25	LazyJ	I'm using VanessaE's outlined fonts but they don't transfer to sign text or the player names.
09:25	Calinou	it's OK to have one behind infotexts maybe, but never behind chat
09:25	LazyJ	Oops. I was wrong. They do transfer to the sign's off-to-the-side text.
09:26	LazyJ	I just checked in a non-HomeDecor test world.
09:28	LazyJ	Calinou, what are the licensing issues for the Misa texture pack. I've been changing and adding things, mixing in some stuff from other texture packs. The "remixed" version I've got may be of interest to others but I'm concerned about the licensing being a snag.
09:28	LazyJ	I thought I saw somewhere that you had mention "Misa" has not been heard from since mid-2013?
09:28	RealBadAngel	Calinou, that crash happens with what item?
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09:29	LazyJ	Misa mess - Low priority. Crash solving is more important. ;)
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09:35	Calinou	RealBadAngel, no idea, but it's a wieldview bug
09:36	Calinou	LazyJ, yes, Misa is 404 since 2013, even her Minecraft Forums title says so (probably changed by staff)
09:36	Calinou	pack is officially under CC BY-NC (:()
09:36	RealBadAngel	Calinou, any ideas on how to cause that bug to occur?
09:37	LazyJ	Erm... in layman's terms, what does CC BY-NC translate too?
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09:40	Calinou	attribution required (that's fine) + â€œno commercial useâ€, which makes it no free
09:41	Calinou	strangely, no ShareAlike clause (which is very frequent with the NC clause, probably because people using it don't know the licenses much)
09:41	RealBadAngel	http://i.imgur.com/j0C7fVn.png
09:41	RealBadAngel	^^ just fired up carbone
09:41	LazyJ	Well, I'll keep it to myself then just to be on the safe side. Thanks ;)
09:44	Calinou	cool, water looks strange
09:44	Calinou	LazyJ, you can publish it
09:44	Calinou	but you'll have to put it under CC BY-NC (or something stricter, but I doubt you want to do that)
09:45	PenguinDad	Calinou: the new water surface shader
09:45	Calinou	ah
09:45	Calinou	how is it so different?
09:45	Calinou	looks like a normal-map + specular applied on water
09:46	RealBadAngel	no, thats a shader
09:46	RealBadAngel	you can try it
09:46	RealBadAngel	btw, i found the reason for your crashes
09:47	RealBadAngel	you have put into inventory items that shouldnt be there
09:47	RealBadAngel	like burning gunpowder or explosion
09:48	RealBadAngel	i will try to make code check for such situations
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09:51	RealBadAngel	Calinou, http://pastebin.com/LdZ2R4c9
09:51	RealBadAngel	it crashes on animated tiles
09:52	RealBadAngel	so tile[1] is not a string but a table
09:52	RealBadAngel	you have to add a check if tile[1] is a string
09:53	RealBadAngel	and the water is here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1521
09:59	Calinou	ok, thanks
09:59	RealBadAngel	http://pastebin.com/g1xm1fCL
09:59	RealBadAngel	here you have patched function
10:00	RealBadAngel	it shouldnt crash anymore
10:02	Calinou	thanks :)
10:02	Calinou	shows nothing in hand when holding animated tile, but better than crashing
10:04	PenguinDad	RealBadAngel: your water surface shader doesn't seem to like nodeboxes directly beneath the surface https://mediacru.sh/7730b9dca5c1
10:04	Calinou	crap, even exploding 56 TNT crashes
10:05	PenguinDad	but otherwise it looks nice
10:05	RealBadAngel	PenguinDad, thats the issue with water drawtype not the shaders
10:06	RealBadAngel	if you dig any node 1 below the water surface, mesh generation turns water surface into something else for whole block
10:06	RealBadAngel	that bug is here since ages but now its clearly visible just
10:07	RealBadAngel	before for example it happened to make water opaque for whole block
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10:15	Calinou	Carbone: Fix crashes with wieldview, wool makes snow sounds, tweak sound volumes.
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10:23	hoodedice	Morning miners
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10:38	Calinou	Map Tools updates
10:38	Calinou	I hope it works
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11:21	* PenguinDad	pokes sfan5
11:21	* sfan5	licks PenguinDad
11:23	PenguinDad	sfan5: are you trying to join VE-Vanilly?
11:23	sfan5	no
11:23	PenguinDad	*Vanilla
11:23	PenguinDad	then it's a different ninjakitten
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11:35	hoodedice	Testing this twitch thing
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11:39	hoodedice	IT WORKS!
11:42	* sfan5	meows at hoodedice
11:44	hoodedice	watch hoodedice do random stuff on a random server at twitch.com/hoodedice
11:44	hoodedice	* twitch.tv/hoodedice
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12:09	hoodedice	!tw @MinetestCommune
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12:09	MinetestBot	Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/MinetestCommune?1406462950.0712395 (@MinetestCommune)
12:12	PenguinDad	!tw 491857221584556032
12:13	MinetestBot	Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/twitter/status/491857221584556032
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13:08	jojoa1997	is there mg7 support in Minetest yet where i can define biomes in lua like this? https://github.com/freeminer/default/blob/master/mods/default/biomes.lua
13:09	Amaz	Yep!
13:09	Amaz	Two miniutes, I'll find an example...
13:11	Amaz	Here you go: https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/mapgen/mapgen.lua#L21-L34
13:11	Amaz	(I'm not sure if heat_point and humidity_point are now redundant...)
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14:02	jojoa1997	FINALLY
14:02	jojoa1997	im back
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14:02	jojoa1997	i have a car and all of a sudden new head lights, polishing, and cleaning the car is needed!
14:03	jojoa1997	i started driving it recent but COME ON i have had it for ages
14:04	jojoa1997	Amaz the heat point is a part of the mapgen
14:04	jojoa1997	humidity and heat are another setting
14:05	jojoa1997	example hot humid = jungle, hot arid = desert, ...
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14:08	VanessaE	LazyJ: poke
14:10	* LazyJ	rollsover and mumbles something incoherent.
14:13	VanessaE	wake up damn it
14:13	* VanessaE	shakes LazyJ vigorously.
14:13	VanessaE	LazyJ: read. license question. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=149534#p149534
14:13	LazyJ	I'm up! I'm up!
14:14	* VanessaE	shoves a cup of hot coffee under LazyJ's nose ;)
14:14	* LazyJ	takes the coffee gratefully and fishes around for last night's donut box.
14:15	VanessaE	DONUTS!!!!!!!
14:15	* VanessaE	offers chocolate in trade
14:16	LazyJ	License question??
14:16	VanessaE	LazyJ: homedecor is LGPL. your code is GPL. by extension so is jp's fork.
14:17	VanessaE	I'd like to include his fork of your mod into homedecor modpack.
14:17	VanessaE	your permission is required :)
14:17	LazyJ	Ok.
14:17	LazyJ	What's the difference between LGPL and GPL? I just go with whatever the original author uses.
14:18	VanessaE	beats the hell out of me exactly except LGPL is supposed to make it easier to use code so-licensed in proprietary projects or something.
14:18	VanessaE	I only use it because minetest_game did and I got some code from there.
14:19	LazyJ	Ok with me to use it.
14:20	LazyJ	Credit to semmett9 too.
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14:21	LazyJ	While I have your ear, VanessaE, besides the signs not line-wrapping, when placed on a default fence they break the fence line.
14:21	VanessaE	yeah I know about that
14:21	VanessaE	that requires.... a lot of work.
14:21	VanessaE	the line-wrapping issue is kaeza's arena.
14:21	VanessaE	the other part is.. um....
14:21	* VanessaE	hides
14:22	* PenguinDad	stares at xpanes
14:22	SylvieLorxu	LGPL = You only need to give the source of this code
14:22	LazyJ	Hehehehe...
14:22	SylvieLorxu	GPL = You also need to give the source of your project if you use this code
14:22	SylvieLorxu	AGPL = You need to do this, even if the user doesn't run it and you just sent the output over the Internet
14:23	LazyJ	SylvieLorxu, so include a copy of semmet9's version of the code?
14:23	VanessaE	naw
14:23	SylvieLorxu	LazyJ: No, it has to do with linking
14:23	SylvieLorxu	With the GPL, if you use GPL code and write more files that interact with the GPL code
14:23	VanessaE	you only need to link/distribute what is used to build yours
14:23	SylvieLorxu	Your files need to be GPL as well
14:23	SylvieLorxu	With the LGPL, they don't have to be
14:24	LazyJ	So if the fork is posted in semmet9's thread of the original mod does that satisfy the license requirements?
14:25	VanessaE	yep
14:25	VanessaE	mods are always open source anyway
14:26	VanessaE	distributing the source is kinda automatic with a minetest mod
14:27	LazyJ	My concern is if the licensing issue get too complicated and sticky, it may discourage modders from releasing their work.
14:27	jojoa1997	[10:13:32] * 28VanessaE shakes LazyJ vigorously.
14:27	jojoa1997	RUUDE
14:27	VanessaE	jojoa1997: what do YOU do when someone would get out of bed? whisper to them gently? ;P
14:28	jojoa1997	simple
14:28	jojoa1997	I let my mom scream at me
14:28	jojoa1997	;D
14:28	jojoa1997	also can anyone make sense of https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/mapgen/mapgen.lua#L21-L34
14:29	jojoa1997	I kinda know how it works but an explanation api worthy would be nice
14:29	SylvieLorxu	LazyJ: If they haven't changed semmet9's code and their own code is all different files, I think so
14:29	SylvieLorxu	#fsf probably knows best
14:29	SylvieLorxu	The GPL family is really complicated
14:29	LazyJ	Ugh...
14:29	jojoa1997	VanessaE would it be illegal for me to sell my mod when it is GPL
14:30	PenguinDad	zlib/libpng licence is much easier
14:30	VanessaE	jojoa1997: nope. not illegal at all.
14:30	jojoa1997	yay
14:30	VanessaE	there is a lot of code that's GPL and also being sold.
14:30	VanessaE	nothing precludes that.
14:30	jojoa1997	The official price for Overcraft Origins is one hug
14:30	SylvieLorxu	PenguinDad: Definitely
14:30	VanessaE	one hug?!
14:30	jojoa1997	WAIT
14:31	VanessaE	are you crazy?!
14:31	jojoa1997	The official price for Overcraft Origins is ten hugs
14:31	SylvieLorxu	jojoa1997: No, FOSS licenses, per definition, have to allow you to sell it
14:31	VanessaE	that's highway robbery!
14:31	* PenguinDad	hugs jojoa1997
14:31	jojoa1997	:D
14:31	jojoa1997	PenguinDad gets ownership now
14:31	* VanessaE	tosses jojoa1997 a ten-pack of hugs
14:31	jojoa1997	IM FREE
14:31	VanessaE	(I had these all packaged up some years ago just in case ;) )
14:31	* jojoa1997	buys a kitten
14:31	* jojoa1997	gives kitten to VanessaE
14:32	jojoa1997	ok so
14:32	* VanessaE	pets the kitten and puts it in OldCoder's pile
14:32	jojoa1997	is there a ,tell thing here?
14:32	jojoa1997	like ,tell Jordach blah
14:32	jojoa1997	and when he speaks he gets the message
14:33	PenguinDad	''tell jojoa1997 I think so
14:33	HLuaBot	I'll tell that to "jojoa1997" next time I see them around.
14:33	jojoa1997	''tell Jordach could you explain what each part means in https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/mapgen/mapgen.lua#L21-L34
14:33	HLuaBot	I'll tell that to "Jordach" next time I see them around.
14:34	jojoa1997	time to
14:34	jojoa1997	go tablet
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14:37	jojoa1997_	My tablet is too slow
14:37	jojoa1997_	It doesn't boot in 5 seconds
14:37	VanessaE	heh
14:38	PenguinDad	maybe it still uses SysV-init :P
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14:38	frogfish	Hello everybody
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14:39	frogfish	!up atom.uk.to
14:39	MinetestBot	atom.uk.to:30000 seems to be down
14:39	frogfish	fukkc
14:39	frogfish	Hey yaman
14:40	frogfish	How's your PvP thing coming along?
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15:07	frogfish	hi!
15:07	* frogfish	is connecting through 2 routers because Wifi on one of them is this
15:08	frogfish	*shit
15:08	frogfish	Connect to the dwarves server on atom.uk.to, I'm hosting a game
15:08	frogfish	Basically a PvP
15:09	Amaz	!up atom.uk.to
15:09	MinetestBot	atom.uk.to:30000 seems to be down
15:09	PenguinDad	''up atom.uk.to
15:09	HLuaBot	Unknown command "up". Try "help".
15:09	PenguinDad	:(
15:10	frogfish	!up atom.uk.to
15:10	MinetestBot	atom.uk.to:30000 is up (5473ms)
15:10	frogfish	Holy shit...
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15:13	Calinou	hi
15:13	frogfish	Hey Calinou
15:13	frogfish	Prison server Terminated
15:13	frogfish	I mean,
15:13	frogfish	I can run it if you really want
15:14	Calinou	tried to log in this morning
15:14	Calinou	why?
15:14	Calinou	you should've just disabled PvP if you're annoyed with it
15:14	frogfish	I'm hosting a PvP server
15:14	frogfish	I still have the map
15:15	Calinou	meh, boring thing
15:15	frogfish	Nobody was joining tho
15:15	Calinou	if you actually want players, you can do 2 things:
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15:15	Calinou	either you have a custom map (eg. prison)
15:15	Calinou	eg you make it peculiar in some way (eg. hardcore PvP)
15:15	Calinou	the Prison server fullfilled 1, so it was fine
15:15	Calinou	look at 90 % of servers on list
15:15	Calinou	they're generic survival/creative worlds
15:15	Calinou	we have enough of them
15:15	Amaz	PvP with Minas Tirith map! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9440
15:16	frogfish	and {Amaz link desc="Dwarves"}
15:16	Amaz	?
15:16	frogfish	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9826
15:16	Calinou	woo, 1000 reddit comment karma.
15:17	Amaz	That.
15:17	* sfan5	licks Calinou
15:17	* Amaz	strokes sfan5
15:18	* sfan5	purrs
15:18	Calinou	http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2bsvur/bug_3313_rpm_fusion_initial_download_is_totally/cj90w6q
15:18	Calinou	successful troll!
15:18	Calinou	but no one planted a dynamite on my corpse yet.
15:21	Amaz	reddit comments can get nasty at times!
15:21	sfan5	"reddit can get nasty at times!"
15:21	sfan5	ftfy
15:22	Calinou	well, reddit is Hell on Earth pretty much
15:23	PenguinDad	What is 4chan then?
15:24	* Calinou	doesn't know
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15:26	jojoa1997	time to see if i can compile on windows .~.
15:28	Calinou	meh
15:28	Calinou	daily builds are made by trusted people
15:28	sfan5	Calinou: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWlSPxhHero
15:28	Calinou	jojoa1997, forums has some info on it, wiki too
15:28	Calinou	http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_Windows
15:29	jojoa1997	i know
15:29	jojoa1997	what is the best linux like terminal i can install on windows?
15:29	jojoa1997	so i can run mintest/util/buildbot
15:30	jojoa1997	also
15:30	jojoa1997	the dev wiki says nothing about curl
15:31	PenguinDad	jojoa1997: linux itself :P
15:31	* jojoa1997	stabs PenguinDad
15:31	jojoa1997	oh wait
15:32	jojoa1997	is the buildbot script for windows or linux?
15:32	PenguinDad	jojoa1997: it's for linux
15:33	jojoa1997	darn
15:34	jojoa1997	how recent is sfan5's builds?
15:34	sfan5	(2 weeks ago)
15:34	sfan5	at least the last one
15:35	Exio	jojoa1997, mintty ++ cygwin
15:36	jojoa1997	sfan5 make a python script to compile by windows
15:36	jojoa1997	afk swimming
15:36	sfan5	by windows?
15:36	sfan5	I am not sure how to compile by windows
15:36	sfan5	oh wait
15:36	sfan5	I'm already doing that
15:36	sfan5	my computer is next to a window
15:37	PenguinDad	my computer is next to two windows
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15:38	Chibikitty	http://minecraft.novaskin.me/skin/6294136416108544/CatGirl
15:38	Chibikitty	Here is the link Dezeel
15:39	sfan5	^ cat ears
15:39	sfan5	:3
15:41	frogfish	Hey jojoa1997
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15:42	frogfish	!up minetest.org 30010
15:42	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30010 is up (577ms)
15:43	Calinou	news flash: I no longer have 1000 comment karma
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15:45	Amaz	Did someone plant a dynamite on your corpse?
15:45	frogfish	Amaz, PvP is booooring
15:45	Amaz	frogfish Yep
15:45	Calinou	yes, I hope someone will defuse it
15:45	frogfish	Well then
15:45	Amaz	:P
15:45	Amaz	watershed?
15:46	Amaz	For an exploration map?
15:46	Amaz	s/map/server
15:47	frogfish	hmmm
15:47	frogfish	Know how to use linux?
15:47	Amaz	Me?
15:47	frogfish	yeah
15:47	Amaz	Yup.
15:47	frogfish	Debian linux...
15:48	Amaz	Yep.
15:49	frogfish	nohup ./minetestserver --worldname [map] &
15:49	PenguinDad	hopefully it's military dynamite
15:49	sfan5	frogfish: thats not a good way to host a server
15:49	sfan5	s/host/start/
15:50	frogfish	Oh well
15:52	Calinou	you should use screen
15:52	Calinou	screen -R Minetest
15:53	Calinou	./minetestserver --worldname world; ./minetestserver --worldname world; ./minetestserver --worldname world
15:53	Calinou	(a $ 2 auto-restart script :P)
15:53	Calinou	then, after you did that, Ctrl + A then Ctrl + D to detach.
15:53	Calinou	to rattach: screen -R Minetest
15:53	Calinou	before exiting SSH session, be sure to detach.
15:53	frogfish	I don't like screen much
15:53	Exio	screen or tmux
15:54	sfan5	then use tmux
15:54	Exio	;_;
15:55	frogfish	[detached from 12843.pts-2.atom]
15:55	frogfish	And restoring?
15:56	frogfish	omg awesome
15:56	sfan5	screen -r 12843.pts-2.atom
15:56	frogfish	screen -r does it
15:57	sfan5	that only works if you only have one screen session
15:57	Calinou	screen -R both creates and restores
15:57	Calinou	the capital R is important
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15:59	Calinou	jojoa1997, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9814&p=149384#p149384
16:03	PenguinDad	Is that guy talking to himself in that thread?
16:13	Calinou	very nice, ExcaliburZero posted my thread on /r/minetest
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16:26	fu-fu	sfan5: I've seen you before, starruler?
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16:37	jojoa1997	um
16:38	jojoa1997	on the dev wiki on cmake i need OPENAL_INCLUDE_DIR=C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenAL\include
16:38	jojoa1997	well there is nothing but oalinst.exe in that folder
16:38	jojoa1997	what is supposed to be in there and how can i get it since i already reinstalled it 3 times
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16:50	fling	Which mods to use if I want weather and/or winter and/or biomes?
16:50	jojoa1997	fling give me a moment
16:51	fling	jojoa1997: hello
16:51	jojoa1997	hi fling also do you want biomes from mods or mg7 biomes?
16:55	jojoa1997	fling Nore's mg is a good one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7263, and you should also check out paramat's mods for mapgen stuff https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?keywords=&terms=all&author=paramat&fid[]=11&fid[]=13&fid[]=15&sc=1&sf=titleonly&sr=topics&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
16:55	jojoa1997	sorry for the spam
16:56	fling	jojoa1997: thanks :>
16:56	fling	jojoa1997: I want to use nether mod
16:56	fling	jojoa1997: idk what mapgen to choose
16:57	jojoa1997	any
16:57	jojoa1997	though
16:57	jojoa1997	you can make your own fling https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/mapgen/mapgen.lua#L21-L34
16:59	sfan5	fu-fu: whats starruler?
16:59	fling	don't I need v7?
16:59	jojoa1997	fling yeah but Minetest 0.4.10 should have it right?
17:00	jojoa1997	also anyone know what redis version i need and what it does?
17:00	fling	jojoa1997: right, but v6 is the default?
17:00	fling	jojoa1997: redis does databases
17:00	fling	jojoa1997: might work much faster than sqlite but depends
17:01	fling	I have a separate box for redis but I'm not using it yet.
17:02	sfan5	jojoa1997: you need any function versio of libhiredis
17:03	Calinou	it's not like sqlite is too slow
17:03	Calinou	fling, Carbone makes some snow biomes.
17:03	Calinou	very basic, but works.
17:03	Calinou	at high altitudes
17:04	BlockMen	^ copied from MT+ and Wasteland :P
17:05	* sfan5	meows at BlockMen
17:06	* BlockMen	gives sfan5 a fish
17:06	* sfan5	noms it
17:07	jojoa1997	hmm
17:08	jojoa1997	simple
17:08	jojoa1997	http://sfan5.pf-control.de/libleveldb-1.15-win64.zip
17:08	fu-fu	sfan5: The irc chat that I thought I recognised you from.
17:09	fu-fu	sfan5: Well, it's a game, but it has a irc chat in it.
17:09	jojoa1997	btw the scripts in util/buildbot are for windows cause they have those downloads
17:09	sfan5	fu-fu: never heard of that
17:14	Calinou	BlockMen, no, it uses ore generation
17:16	BlockMen	Calinou, fine, "inspired" by MT+ and Wasteland ;)
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17:37	VanessaE	LazyJ: poke
17:39	shadowzone	Hi VanessaE.
17:40	VanessaE	hey
17:42	Calinou	hi shadowzone and VanessaE
17:42	Calinou	VanessaE, there are updates to Map Tools (more nodes)
17:42	VanessaE	hey Calinou
17:42	VanessaE	oh yeah, saw that.
17:42	VanessaE	gotta pull multiple updates again
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17:48	VanessaE	Calinou: you use fake fire right?
17:49	Calinou	map tools has fake fire, permanent fire, igniters
17:49	OldCoder	Hello
17:49	VanessaE	ah right, not the same one
17:49	VanessaE	I was thinking of the one I use in dreambuilder
17:49	* VanessaE	pokes LazyJ again
17:49	VanessaE	hey OldCoder
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17:50	OldCoder
17:52	* LazyJ	lifts his head off his drool covered keyboard.
17:52	Calinou	well, the Fake Fire mod reinvents the wheel, I guess
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19:33	Exio	does anyone know how to make a full backup of an usb key? if i was under linux i'd use "dd if=/dev/sdX of=.." or add a 'compression layer'
19:34	Exio	i want to do that so i save the boot record of them, and how could that raw image as a virtual disk too?
19:34	Exio	all under windoze
19:39	Vazon	does the default client support cURL?
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20:03	bulletrulz	heyllo
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20:05	sfan5	Exio: win32diskimager & 7zip
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20:06	hoodedice	!seen Jordach
20:06	MinetestBot	hoodedice: jordach was last seen at 2014-07-26 18:17:14 UTC on #minetest
20:07	Exio	sfan5, k
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20:07	sfan5	<3 MinetestBot
20:07	MinetestBot	<3 sfan5
20:08	frogfish	!c eval("" 2)
20:08	MinetestBot	NameError: name 'eval' is not defined
20:08	frogfish	:(
20:08	hoodedice	dangit, I need Jordach
20:08	* frogfish	needs a NAS
20:08	sfan5	hoodedice: for what?
20:09	hoodedice	Steam stuff, unrelated to minetest.
20:09	hoodedice	Ace Combat shifted ass to steamworks from crappy Games for Windows Live. Multiplayer will be amazing now
20:10	sfan5	oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
20:10	hoodedice	=\|
20:12	frogfish	uh-oh
20:12	frogfish	Nick takeover
20:12	frogfish	Will be interesting
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20:12	sfan5	frogfish: one of them (or both?) will get renamed to a random string
20:12	SylvieLorxu	sfan5: I thought they'd both be killed?
20:12	sfan5	SylvieLorxu: no
20:12	sfan5	Hello john_minetest
20:12	VanessaE	I haven't seen a nick collision kill in ages
20:12	hoodedice	yo john_minetest
20:12	SylvieLorxu	Aww, that would've been a lot more fun
20:13	PenguinDad	Hi john_minetest
20:13	frecel	Ah good
20:13	frecel	We'll see
20:13	hoodedice	=/
20:13	bulletrulz	anyone know a good n64 emulator for linux?
20:13	frecel	I'm always on the small side of the netsplit
20:13	PenguinDad	lol https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/1377606_655632357823879_4311311610439197304_n.jpg
20:13	hoodedice	bulletrulz, I have an idea
20:13	frecel	Those 6 saw 117 people split, right?
20:14	hoodedice	ask that on #ubuntu
20:14	SylvieLorxu	frecel: Pretty sure, yeah
20:14	SylvieLorxu	bulletrulz: Dolphin?
20:14	sfan5	bulletrulz: mupen64plus maybe
20:14	hoodedice	You might even start a mini flame war while you're there
20:14	SylvieLorxu	bulletrulz: http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/
20:14	frecel	lol
20:14	SylvieLorxu	Frankly, it's the only one I know
20:14	SylvieLorxu	Others may be way better
20:14	bulletrulz	SylvieLorxu, thanks but that gaamecube
20:14	sfan5	dolphin is great
20:15	SylvieLorxu	Oh, oops
20:15	bulletrulz	sfan5, the problem is no gui
20:15	SylvieLorxu	Yeah, my bad
20:15	bulletrulz	sfan5, i mean i dont mind it just controls are hard to configure
20:15	hoodedice	I know sfan likes dolphin
20:15	* sfan5	licks hoodedice
20:15	bulletrulz	wow
20:15	bulletrulz	lol
20:15	hoodedice	Has been resharing loads of dolphin based tweets lately
20:15	sfan5	bulletrulz: I don't know of any one that has a a gui
20:16	sfan5	hoodedice: >1
20:16	hoodedice	(And none of MinetestCommune tweets)
20:16	bulletrulz	sfan5, yeah thats what sucks
20:16	bulletrulz	n64 is one of my favorite systems
20:16	frecel	Hard disk 10MB/s _._
20:16	bulletrulz	before nintendo became shit
20:16	hoodedice	The last time I played a Nintendo emulator was for Ocarina of Time
20:16	sfan5	frecel: y u no RAID10 o RAID5?
20:17	hoodedice	...on Windows
20:17	frecel	...
20:17	frecel	It's an external 1TB drive
20:17	frecel	It has to be windows compatible for school though
20:17	frecel	So shitty NTFS it is
20:17	sfan5	pff
20:17	sfan5	use an usb key
20:18	frecel	The encrypted filesystem doesn't help a
20:18	frecel	actual drive gets 20MB/sec
20:18	sfan5	do a 2nd partition with btrfs
20:18	* hoodedice	has gone back to playing FlightGear
20:18	sfan5	done
20:18	* sfan5	curls up to hoodedices lap
20:18	frecel	Half Life doesn't fit on ont of those
20:18	frecel	Now I have OCD
20:18	frecel	On the data sizes
20:18	* hoodedice	hugs sfan5
20:19	* sfan5	meows at hoodedice
20:19	frogfish	Took the poor Intel Atom a day to compile Grsec
20:19	* hoodedice	hugs even harder, crushing sfan5's bones
20:19	hoodedice	no homo
20:19	frogfish	RAID5...
20:19	* sfan5	meows at hoodedice
20:19	frogfish	rAIDS
20:19	frogfish	Too slow
20:20	frogfish	But i have the safest system on earth
20:20	* hoodedice	barks back
20:20	sfan5	lol sure
20:20	frogfish	30char passphrase for Hard Disk, encrypted, Grsec patched
20:21	frogfish	Now to lock the BIOS
20:21	sfan5	lol bios lock
20:21	sfan5	that won't get you anything
20:21	SylvieLorxu	BIOS lock can be easily bypassed by getting rid of the BIOS battery shortly
20:21	bulletrulz	i was thinking you think it would be just easier to use project64 on wine?
20:21	hoodedice	^Or the battery jumper
20:22	sfan5	hm
20:22	hoodedice	bullet, try NOT to use wine as much as possible
20:22	bulletrulz	i mean no$gba runs at full speed on a netbook when fucking desmumes runs at 5 fps
20:22	sfan5	30 char pass won't get you anything too
20:22	bulletrulz	hoodedice, of cource
20:22	sfan5	depends on it's security
20:22	bulletrulz	i use linux as much as i can
20:22	hoodedice	weird, FG repos are open 21 days from new release
20:22	hoodedice	Weird
20:22	bulletrulz	lol
20:23	bulletrulz	ima try pj64 and get back to ya
20:24	frogfish	I wonder what's inside a sky hub...
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20:26	LemonLake	Hmm...
20:26	frogfish	Hi LL
20:26	LemonLake	I'm hearing that people are impersonating me.
20:26	frogfish	...
20:26	* frogfish	hides
20:27	* sfan5	licks LemonLake
20:27	LemonLake	Would anyone happen to know who on MTX was pretending to be me?
20:27	sfan5	mtx?
20:27	LemonLake	Idk, some server.
20:27	LemonLake	mtz*
20:28	* frogfish	logs on as LemonLake
20:28	sfan5	!server mtz
20:28	MinetestBot	sfan5: No results
20:28	sfan5	!server z
20:28	MinetestBot	sfan5: Onez' Minetest Server \| mtzeno.com \| Clients: 17/25, 11/24 \| Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest \| Ping: 200ms
20:28	LemonLake	mtz-basic/mt-nostalgia
20:28	sfan5	!server nostalgia
20:28	MinetestBot	sfan5: VanessaE's Nostalgia Server \| digitalaudioconcepts.com:30002 \| Clients: 0/50, 0/1 \| Version: 0.4.10-dev / mt_nostalgia \| Ping: 129ms
20:28	sfan5	!server nostalgia i:1
20:28	MinetestBot	TypeError: object of type 'NoneType' has no len() (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 126, in server)
20:28	sfan5	hm
20:28	PenguinDad	!server ping:most
20:28	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: Craig's Server \| craigd.24tails.com \| Clients: 5/30, 1/8 \| Version: 0.4.9-dev / Craig-Server \| Ping: 579ms
20:28	sfan5	!server ping:least
20:28	MinetestBot	sfan5: Spline Minetest Server \| 130.133.110.246:9001 \| Clients: 0/50, 4/20 \| Version: 0.4.10 / minetest \| Ping: 19ms
20:29	* frogfish	looks forward to the Host1Free email
20:29	* PenguinDad	looks backward to the non-future
20:30	LemonLake	!server mt-nostalgia
20:30	MinetestBot	LemonLake: No results
20:30	LemonLake	!server minetest-nostalgia
20:30	MinetestBot	LemonLake: No results
20:30	LemonLake	!server minetest nostalgia
20:30	MinetestBot	LemonLake: No results
20:30	LemonLake	hm
20:30	PenguinDad	!server Nostalgia
20:30	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: VanessaE's Nostalgia Server \| digitalaudioconcepts.com:30002 \| Clients: 0/50, 0/1 \| Version: 0.4.10-dev / mt_nostalgia \| Ping: 129ms
20:31	bulletrulz	i love you MinetestBot
20:31	PenguinDad	^ LemonLake this is the server you are searching for
20:31	frogfish	I don't particularly like MinetestBot
20:32	LemonLake	it is indeed
20:32	bulletrulz	frogfish, dont you dare talk about MinetestBot
20:32	frogfish	I mean, works as a bot
20:32	PenguinDad	<3 MinetestBot
20:32	LemonLake	i don't play minetest though
20:32	bulletrulz	like that
20:32	LemonLake	so i wouldn't know
20:32	frogfish	<3 MinetestBot
20:32	MinetestBot	<3 frogfish
20:32	frogfish	â¤
20:33	frogfish	sfan5, use that
20:33	sfan5	y?
20:33	frogfish	# encoding: UTF-8
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20:33	frogfish	Dammit they lost the colour
20:34	sfan5	!rainbow â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤â¤v
20:34	MinetestBot	4â¤4â¤4â¤7â¤7â¤7â¤8â¤8â¤8â¤3â¤3â¤3â¤â¤â¤â¤6â¤6â¤6â¤â¤â¤â¤4â¤4â¤4â¤7â¤7â¤7â¤8â¤8â¤8â¤3â¤3â¤3â¤â¤â¤â¤6â¤6â¤6â¤â¤â¤â¤4â¤4â¤4â¤7â¤7â¤7â¤8â¤8â¤8â¤3v
20:34	hoodedice	Use ##minetestbot for all your spamming needs
20:34	frogfish	\/
20:37	PenguinDad	!seen Korck
20:37	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen korck around.
20:37	PenguinDad	!seen Krock
20:37	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: krock was last seen at 2014-07-25 01:54:54 UTC on #minetest
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20:40	bulletrulz	ima try m64py
20:41	bulletrulz	!seen mijyn
20:41	MinetestBot	bulletrulz: mijyn was last seen at 2013-11-20 08:26:36 UTC on #minetest
20:41	bulletrulz	damn! lol
20:41	sfan5	lol
20:41	bulletrulz	!seen bulletrulz129
20:41	MinetestBot	bulletrulz: bulletrulz129 was last seen at 2014-04-26 03:11:18 UTC on #minetest
20:41	bulletrulz	!seen god
20:41	MinetestBot	bulletrulz: Sorry, I haven't seen god around.
20:41	bulletrulz	oh
20:41	frogfish	* [god] (~godxvm-102-176.ghst.net): god
20:42	bulletrulz	!seen minetestboy
20:42	MinetestBot	bulletrulz: Sorry, I haven't seen minetestboy around.
20:42	bulletrulz	!seen minetestbot
20:42	MinetestBot	bulletrulz: minetestbot was last seen at 2014-07-25 23:22:18 UTC on #freenode
20:42	bulletrulz	okay im dont with you minetest
20:42	bulletrulz	bot
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20:43	frogfish	inb4 ignore from MinetestBot
20:43	PenguinDad	!tell Krock your Pseudorandom is broken http://sprunge.us/MVMH
20:44	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: I'll pass that on when Krock is around
20:44	* frogfish	prefers ix.io
20:45	yaman	hi frogfish
20:45	Exio	ex.i
20:45	Exio	o
20:45	* sfan5	licks Exio
20:45	frogfish	Hi yaman
20:46	* PenguinDad	meows at Exio
20:46	yaman	can you host my pvp minigame?
20:46	frogfish	Yeah, sure
20:46	frogfish	Just err...
20:47	yaman	ok
20:48	LemonLake	!server nostalgia
20:48	MinetestBot	LemonLake: 07-25 02:03 UTC <sfan5> http://cdn.awwni.me/o6mt.jpg
20:48	MinetestBot	LemonLake: VanessaE's Nostalgia Server \| digitalaudioconcepts.com:30002 \| Clients: 1/50, 0/1 \| Version: 0.4.10-dev / mt_nostalgia \| Ping: 129ms
20:48	LemonLake	OMG
20:48	LemonLake	did you draw that?
20:48	LemonLake	that's so good :D
20:48	sfan5	no
20:48	sfan5	I can't draw
20:48	LemonLake	!clients
20:49	LemonLake	!help
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20:49	MinetestBot	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:49	sfan5	wtf are you thinking
20:49	LemonLake	just a chance
20:49	LemonLake	:)
20:49	LemonLake	they're on nostalgia again
20:49	PenguinDad	LemonLake: real coders can't draw ;)
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20:49	MinetestBot	Megaf: 07-23 19:42 UTC <Krock> Happy B-day!
20:49	sfan5	<PenguinDad> LemonLake: real coders can't draw ;)
20:50	sfan5	ack
20:50	LemonLake	they're saying they're new to minetest
20:51	LemonLake	neither am i
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20:51	* frogfish	is a real coder
20:51	bulletrulz	so i got m64py to work the only problem is when i full screen it be studdring and shit lol
20:52	Exio	i'm not a real coder
20:52	* frogfish	wishes he could draw
20:52	Exio	and i can't draw a circle properly
20:52	Exio	:(
20:52	LemonLake	so do i
20:55	Exio	wish i could draw, or code!
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20:55	* frogfish	can code, just not draw
20:56	* LemonLake	can do both but is not good at either
20:56	* frogfish	dreams in Lisp
20:56	LemonLake	you need to see a shrink
20:56	frogfish	The very language from which god wrought the universe
20:57	Exio	frogfish, >god
20:57	sfan5	^
20:57	frogfish	Wikipedia lol
20:57	frogfish	God wrote in Lisp code
20:57	frogfish	http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lisp_%28programming_language%29
20:58	Exio	what is nice about lisp is that the AST is the language itself
20:58	Exio	McCarthy is god, so
20:58	sfan5	>Off-topic is allowed, but excessive use of it is disallowed.
20:59	* frogfish	actually hates lisp, and perl
20:59	Exio	why
20:59	Exio	they're beautiful languages
21:00	frogfish	I like Python
21:00	frogfish	Just Python
21:00	sfan5	python is pretty nice
21:01	Exio	frogfish, Nothing
21:01	frogfish	(just (not (lisp (I (Hate (PARENTHESES ))))))
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21:01	frogfish	sfan5, What's your favourite one?
21:01	sfan5	is is not obvious enough?
21:01	sfan5	python
21:02	frogfish	Mhm booring
21:02	Exio	Haskell and C
21:02	frogfish	COBOL is cool
21:02	frogfish	Grass Hopper =P
21:02	Exio	yeah, it is a nice torture tool
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21:02	MinetestBot	cg72: 06-19 05:52 UTC <asl> your pvp server's spawn is underground
21:02	PenguinDad	COBOL always reminds me of FreedroidRPG
21:03	cg72	wow that one is outdated
21:03	cg72	anyone know lua and the api i need help
21:03	frogfish	!api
21:04	* frogfish	does and rtfm
21:04	PenguinDad	!rtfm
21:04	cg72	http://paste.ubuntu.com/7878199/
21:04	MinetestBot	someone thinks you should read the manual. The development wiki is at http://dev.minetest.net, the regular wiki is at http://wiki.minetest.net.
21:04	cg72	this abm will not work to save my life
21:05	cg72	well this isnt my first mod mr rude!!!
21:05	LemonLake	VanessaE?
21:05	sfan5	cg72: you need to do minetest.get_node first
21:05	bulletrulz	anybody have any favorite ps1 games?
21:05	sfan5	then do minetest.get_item_group(node.name, "something")
21:06	* PenguinDad	never had any PlayStation
21:07	cg72	sfan ty
21:07	* frogfish	has a WiFi router not connected to the internet
21:07	frogfish	Dang useful
21:07	frogfish	For pissing off neighbours with it's SSID =D
21:08	* VanessaE	hides
21:08	PenguinDad	frogfish: is it called "Hard Di*k Drive"? :P
21:09	frogfish	lol
21:09	frogfish	I love my Hard Dicks
21:09	frogfish	DISKS
21:09	sfan5	uh
21:09	frogfish	The only reason we need SSDs
21:09	frogfish	To avoid this misspelling
21:09	bulletrulz	off on my journey to gain 150 stars
21:09	sfan5	solid state di*k?
21:09	bulletrulz	lol
21:10	sfan5	not much better
21:10	PenguinDad	RAM di*ks aren't better either
21:10	bulletrulz	lol
21:10	frogfish	volatile dick
21:10	frogfish	idk why you use d*ck
21:11	bulletrulz	penis jokes
21:11	frogfish	dik
21:11	frogfish	Wikipedia Hard Disk s/disk/dick
21:13	sfan5	john_minetest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoresistive_random-access_memory
21:13	bulletrulz	lol
21:14	PenguinDad	I've changed my diet :D https://cdn.mediacru.sh/9l7EVqHsprXe.png
21:14	Exio	k
21:14	sfan5	http://www.everspin.com/technology.php
21:14	sfan5	looks pretty awesome
21:14	* sfan5	meows at Exio
21:14	sfan5	PenguinDad: >ubuntu font >mem
21:14	sfan5	e
21:15	Exio	that feeling when you thought you had the last free day...
21:15	Exio	and it is actually a week...
21:15	PenguinDad	sfan5: I didn't make that
21:15	sfan5	ShadowNinja: ping?
21:16	hoodedice	Heyo Amaz
21:16	Amaz	Hello!
21:17	PenguinDad	john_minetest: I've only seen hand-weaved cpus
21:17	hoodedice	hah
21:17	frogfish	Copying sed results now...
21:17	Amaz	And goodbye :P
21:17	hoodedice	!g hand made HDDs
21:17	MinetestBot	hoodedice: http://www.instructables.com/id/Hard-drive-platter-clock./
21:18	frogfish	http://atom.uk.to/Editing%20Hard%20disk%20drive%20-%20Wikipedia%2c%20the%20free%20encyclopedia.html
21:18	frogfish	Enjoy!
21:18	frogfish	upon spin-down, "taking off" again when the dick was later powered on.
21:18	frogfish	An HDD records data by magnetizing a thin film of ferromagnetic material[c] on a dick.
21:18	frogfish	LOL
21:19	bulletrulz	i heard theres a virus for ubuntu going around
21:20	Exio	the user
21:20	* frogfish	isn't worrried
21:20	frogfish	He has Grsec
21:21	bulletrulz	john_minetest, idk i just heard from a friend researchiing to see if its true
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21:23	bulletrulz	lo
21:24	* frogfish	wants to run a Sed statement on wikipedia
21:28	* bulletrulz	is bored D:
21:29	bulletrulz	funfact im banned from #minecraft
21:29	* frogfish	isn't
21:29	* frogfish	goes to #minecraft and says #minetest
21:30	bulletrulz	frogfish they are n00bz over there
21:30	bulletrulz	lol
21:30	frogfish	I know
21:30	bulletrulz	no but for realz i was just going over there saying hi
21:30	frogfish	I've been there before
21:30	bulletrulz	and there all like Fgt i kill you family 720p dvdrip
21:31	frogfish	Anyone wanna watch?
21:31	bulletrulz	what?
21:31	frogfish	I'm gonna log
21:32	bulletrulz	lol
21:32	Exio	it is quite crazy to see what Lisp had in the 1958 ...
21:32	Exio	Lisp pioneered many ideas in computer science, including tree data structures, automatic storage management, dynamic typing, conditionals, higher-order functions, recursion, and the self-hosting compiler
21:32	TheCephalopod	D:
21:32	TheCephalopod	GRMLN!
21:32	TheCephalopod	I am still banned from #minecraft
21:33	VanessaE	eh who cares about minecraft anyway
21:33	frogfish	Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.
21:33	TheCephalopod	I am immune.
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21:34	frogfish	<Alan> oh good, a troll
21:34	frogfish	They gots me
21:34	bulletrulz	time to illigaly download playstation one games :#
21:34	frogfish	...
21:34	bulletrulz	lol
21:35	bulletrulz	damn final fantasy is huge :O
21:35	bulletrulz	2 gb for a playstastion 1 game
21:35	bulletrulz	whatdashit#lol
21:35	frogfish	They ain't banned me yet
21:36	bulletrulz	they banned me
21:36	bulletrulz	its quite funny
21:36	frogfish	Developments: http://ix.io/dBO
21:37	bulletrulz	i hate minecrft ever since. well 9 year olds found it and took over
21:37	frogfish	bulletrulz, +1
21:37	bulletrulz	i know that one day the same wil happen to minetest
21:37	frogfish	bulletrulz, You should be quiet
21:37	bulletrulz	but at this moment were in the clear
21:37	frogfish	They got the serverlist
21:37	frogfish	They will never take us alive!
21:37	bulletrulz	lol
21:37	* bulletrulz	pulls out a machete
21:37	bulletrulz	lets go then!
21:38	frogfish	Lolol
21:38	bulletrulz	4 HOURS REMAINING!!!!!! ARGH
21:38	frogfish	<9yrold> IMA FUCKING DDOS U U SUN UF A BIACH
21:38	bulletrulz	lol
21:39	frogfish	trolling on Tor since 1998
21:39	bulletrulz	i see like 9 year olds wearing shirts that say minecraft
21:39	bulletrulz	im all like this is stupid af
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21:39	bulletrulz	those mother fuckers dont even know what java is
21:39	niggafish	Me be ready
21:39	frogfish	^^ me
21:39	bulletrulz	there to bust playing minecraft on there xbox 360 to even know anything
21:40	bulletrulz	aha your niggafish i see
21:40	niggafish	<niggafish> I'm a troll
21:40	bulletrulz	i know lol
21:40	niggafish	<Ausmerica> !kban niggafish 7d
21:40	niggafish	* You have been kicked from #minecraft by votd-bot (Banned by Ausmerica)
21:40	bulletrulz	lol
21:40	niggafish	Yup
21:40	bulletrulz	lol
21:40	frogfish	The beauty of IRC:
21:41	frogfish	I mean
21:41	frogfish	Err...
21:41	Exio	.
21:41	frogfish	Ima ssh to someone else and do that
21:41	Exio	could you keep this out?
21:41	Exio	of this nice channel?
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21:42	typical9yearold	lo
21:42	typical9yearold	i LOVE MINECRAFT ON MY XBOX
21:42	typical9yearold	ITS SO FUN
21:42	frogfish	Okay, that banned as well
21:42	bulletrulz	lol
21:42	* GhostDoge	barks at typical9yearold
21:42	frogfish	4 more servers to get through =D
21:43	typical9yearold	lololololololololtoltolroltd
21:43	typical9yearold	ejdok
21:43	typical9yearold	dsfmd
21:43	typical9yearold	bulletrulz out
21:43		typical9yearold left #minetest
21:43	bulletrulz	lol
21:43		Mustek joined #minetest
21:43	frogfish	Go to #minecraft and say Guess Who!
21:43	frogfish	Please
21:43	bulletrulz	lol i cant im banned D:
21:44	Mustek	frogfish: Act like a mature person and stay the fuck out of there
21:44	GhostDoge	"like a dungeonmaster but more laid-back"
21:44	bulletrulz	WHY IS FINAL FANTASY FOR PS1 2GB!!!!!!!!!
21:44	frogfish	bulletrulz, use Tor
21:44	bulletrulz	WTF
21:44	Mustek	frogfish: I understand your parents suck at learning you basic decensy, but get a fucking life.
21:45	bulletrulz	ohhhh yeah!!!!
21:45	bulletrulz	Mustek, i will fucking rape your dog you talk shit about frogfish
21:45	Mustek	bulletrulz: Are you his little brother? Same parents, go figure
21:45	frogfish	AHNS I WIHL DDOS YOU
21:45	VanessaE	bulletrulz: wtf dude
21:45	bulletrulz	lol
21:46	bulletrulz	VanessaE, we just joking around
21:46	Mustek	I shall take my leave here, I suggest you do the same from there
21:46		Mustek left #minetest
21:46	bulletrulz	who was that douchbag?
21:46	frogfish	Guess
21:46	frogfish	lol
21:46	bulletrulz	you?
21:46	frogfish	No
21:46	bulletrulz	oh
21:46	frogfish	from #mineshit
21:46	bulletrulz	oh
21:46	bulletrulz	xD
21:47	frogfish	goto ##anti-mc
21:47	bulletrulz	what a douch
21:47		sfan5\| joined #minetest
21:47	frogfish	So we can stop spamming this nice channel
21:47	frogfish	Just in time =P
21:47	bulletrulz	bye bye lovelys
21:49	* GhostDoge	barks at sfan5\|
21:49	* TheCephalopod	gives sfan5 a <'((((-<
21:49		Mustek joined #minetest
21:49	Mustek	* ninganiga (markshell.bshellz.net) has joined #minecraft
21:49	Mustek	<ninganiga> DOUCE!!!
21:49	Mustek	<ninganiga> Nigger
21:49	sfan5	Mustek: yes i know
21:49	Mustek	ah, you're here
21:49	sfan5	markv is a known troll
21:49	Mustek	good to know
21:49		john_minetest joined #minetest
21:49	sfan5	I would like to sleep
21:49		Mustek left #minetest
21:50	sfan5	!ban !@unaffiliated/frogfish
21:50	sfan5	!kick frogfish
21:50		frogfish was kicked by MinetestBot: frogfish
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21:51	bulletrulz	sfan5 that was mean
21:51	sfan5	idc
21:51	bulletrulz	i still love you tho
21:51	bulletrulz	give daddy a kiss
21:52	bulletrulz	xD
21:52	sfan5	no
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21:52	bulletrulz	why not yolo
21:52	GhostDoge	sfan5 is a cat so yolo doesn't apply
21:53	LemonLake	who knew gimp takes so long to save...
21:53	sfan5	yes
21:53	Exio	dammit
21:54	GhostDoge	sfan5 is a cat so yolo doesn't apply
21:54	GhostDoge	oops
21:54	bulletrulz	lol
21:54	bulletrulz	y09t
21:55	bulletrulz	yo9t
21:55	LemonLake	john_minetest: an image this simple takes ~6 secs to save
21:55	LemonLake	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/doyFW5chQMRh.png
21:56	LemonLake	1920x1080
21:56	LemonLake	what makes you think its 1600x900?
21:56	LemonLake	yes, yes.
21:56	cg72	http://paste.ubuntu.com/7878743/
21:57	cg72	why does this work 100% fine in 2 directions but not in the other 2???
21:58	* sfan5	goes to sleep
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21:58	LemonLake	cg72: why are you looking for a node over the top bed?
21:58		john_minetest left #minetest
21:59	cg72	ok its a bed bud if you place a bed over it it changes to a bunkbed
21:59	sfan5\|	ZZz...
21:59	cg72	and then back
21:59	LemonLake	oh wait
21:59	LemonLake	i see
21:59	cg72	but it works facing 2 ways the other 2 it fails bad
22:00	LemonLake	well
22:00	LemonLake	for one, you're redefining 'node'
22:00	LemonLake	even though it's already defined ;)
22:00	cg72	huh?
22:00	LemonLake	action = function(pos, node)
22:00	LemonLake	local node = minetest.get_node(pos)
22:00	LemonLake	also, you are setting param2 to the exact same thing.
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22:01	LemonLake	nope, that's me being silly
22:01	LemonLake	but you're unnecessarily redefining node
22:01	LemonLake	your issue possibly comes from the fact that you are doing this. see likes 8 and 23.
22:02	cg72	well how the hell should i do it? i keep adding code and it works a bit more but im lost, this is the first time i had to do a node like this with facedir
22:02	LemonLake	line 8, 23, 39 and 55.
22:02	LemonLake	rename those variables, they look like your issue.
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22:03	MinetestBot	Megaf: 07-23 19:42 UTC <markv> Happy Birthday!
22:03	cg72	but it over is a diferent node?
22:03	LemonLake	cg72, you need to rename those variables
22:03	LemonLake	you're redefining them, they've already been defined in the abm's function
22:03	LemonLake	so some crazy shit is gonna happen
22:04	cg72	im fucking lost on what your saying
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22:15	Megaf	!tell markv Thank you! :)
22:15	MinetestBot	Megaf: yeah, yeah
22:15	Megaf	!tell markv Thank you! :)
22:15	bulletrulz	lol
22:15	Megaf	yeah yeah?
22:16	Megaf	!tell markv Thank you! :)
22:16	MinetestBot	Megaf: I'll pass that on when markv is around
22:16	Megaf	That's better
22:16	* GhostDoge	licks Megaf
22:19	* GhostDoge	goes to sleep
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22:27	64MAACF23	ok bows and arrows?
22:27	64MAACF23	i found something called throwing..few diff mods but they all fail
22:27	64MAACF23	something about naming concention
22:27	64MAACF23	convention that is
22:27	64MAACF23	wow..what happend to my nic
22:28	64MAACF23	brb
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22:28	grendal_prime_	there we go
22:28	grendal_prime_	so bows and arrows?
22:31	LemonLake	is on_destruct called when using setnode?
22:34	grendal_prime_	is that for me?
22:35	LemonLake	no, it is not
22:36	hoodedice	!g pilzadam throwing
22:36	MinetestBot	hoodedice: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2805
22:37	hoodedice	grendal_prime_ ^
22:39	grendal_prime_	ya thats what im using
22:39	grendal_prime_	keep getting an icky error
22:40	hoodedice	see last post
22:40	hoodedice	cotton was changed to string in latest or so
22:42	grendal_prime_	the thingthat is really causing an issue is bow_wood does not follow naming conventions
22:43	grendal_prime_	actually its throwing:bow_wood
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22:53	grendal_prime_	ya it just dont work
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22:56	luizrpgluiz	hi
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23:05	grendal_prime_	so no bows and arrows
23:05	grendal_prime_	boy will be bumned
23:05	grendal_prime_	bumed that is.
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23:15	VanessaE	"does not follow naming conventions" normally just means you named the mod wrong.
23:15	VanessaE	my guess is you named it (or left it) as throwing-master
23:16	VanessaE	drop the -master part (and any -blahblah git commit IDs that might be there, too)
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23:22	MinetestBot	shadowzone: 07-27 02:04 UTC <WidDos> Hey shadow make sure you tell me when ready do server so I can send you my mapgen. so there only few stuff on map.
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23:44	bulletrulz	i cant tell you guys how much i love lubuntu
23:44	bulletrulz	lol
23:44	bulletrulz	alot
23:44	bulletrulz	this room got quiet... wheres everyone at?
23:48	bulletrulz	hmmmmmmmm boring
23:48	fu-fu	I was just biking, and eating saskatoon berries.
23:48	SylvieLorxu	Ubuntu, scrub :D
23:49	* SylvieLorxu	is running Gentoo :D
23:49	* SylvieLorxu	is also insane
23:49	SylvieLorxu	Those two statements are related
23:49	SylvieLorxu	No sane people run Gentoo
23:49	bulletrulz	lol I DONT HAVE THE TIME FOR GENTOO xD
23:50	bulletrulz	i need something that can install packages fast
23:50	bulletrulz	and things that dont irritate me xD
23:50	bulletrulz	lubuntu has just always worked for me
23:51	SylvieLorxu	I've never ran Lubuntu, more of a KDE fan myself
23:53	bulletrulz	well SylvieLorxu i have a netbook so its the only thing that for me doesnt run slow.
23:54	bulletrulz	well excluding bodhi linux
23:54	bulletrulz	i dont like the fact bodhi is hard to configure
23:56	LemonLake	whew...
23:56	LemonLake	nearly done with the tamako market minim
23:56	LemonLake	just got tamako's head to do
23:57	bulletrulz	if you dont like saosin your not a real person
23:57	* bulletrulz	likes hardcore music

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