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00:30 ShadowNinja ~tell arsdragonfly Please don't create bump comments on pull requests (or issues).  Especially not five in an hour.
00:30 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
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00:36 WindHero there, now things are as they should be in moontest:
00:36 WindHero torches can NOT be lit in a vacuum :P
00:37 Megaf WindHero; it depends on its composition
00:37 Megaf it would have some oxide
00:38 WindHero still, the oxide would get burnt up pretty quick without oxygen to supplement it
00:38 Megaf oxide is oxygen...
00:38 WindHero kinda
00:38 WindHero I meant outside oxygen
00:38 ShadowNinja s/oxygen/air/
00:38 WindHero :P
00:39 WindHero OK, so I blundered there xD
00:39 Megaf air is mostly nitrogen
00:39 Megaf that thing they fill your chips bags with
00:39 WindHero I'm more of a mechanical science guy
00:39 Megaf Ok, back to work on my mod
00:41 WindHero regardless, it gives people a reason to use the light-crystal torches I put in
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01:11 kaeza could somebody try connecting to 186.51.167.76 for a test?
01:13 ShadowNinja kaeza: What kind of test?
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01:20 kaeza ShadowNinja, xban
01:23 ShadowNinja ~up 186.51.167.76
01:23 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 186.51.167.76 port 30000 is down
01:23 ShadowNinja kaeza: ^
01:23 kaeza ShadowNinja, took it down already. It seems to work ok
01:30 Megaf wow
01:31 Megaf I just found a way to cut in half the size of textures
01:31 Megaf at least it works well on high res textures
01:31 Megaf get a texture, lets say, 128x128
01:31 Megaf and resize it to 128x64
01:31 Megaf without croping it]
01:32 Megaf minetest then will strech it back
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01:38 OldCoder OldCoder> Hello. Has the core been changed to access player files differently?
01:38 OldCoder <OldCoder> For example, is any sort of readdir loop used?
01:43 ShadowNinja Megaf: Well obviously that makes it smaller, but it halves the horizontal quality.
01:44 zat VanessaE: it worked perfectly, an abm instead of plantslib:growwhatever
01:44 Megaf yep
01:44 Megaf works well for highres textures
01:44 Megaf s/for/with
01:57 VanessaE zat: of course it worked, that's because *I* suggested it ;)
02:09 zat omfg yea
02:18 zat VanessaE: I pass a local var with table data to moretrees:grow_jungle_tree(pos) and it arrives nil
02:18 zat ever happened this to you?
02:20 zat ok I think that I found the problem...
02:21 VanessaE yes I've seen that happen before
02:21 VanessaE not sure why though
02:21 zat how do I call a static member with []? I mean... a:b() call it like a["b"]
02:21 zat a["b"] is equal to a.b
02:21 VanessaE maybe because of my stupid use of xxxxx: instead of doing xxxxx.
02:21 VanessaE (colon instead of period)
02:22 zat is there any reason for that?
02:22 zat I am not sure... are : for static members of classes?
02:22 zat (I know nothing of Lua)
02:22 VanessaE : is syntactic sugar for another way of making calls/refs
02:23 zat I am changing it then
02:23 VanessaE I just used that way because it's easier to read :)
02:23 zat I am changing the code so plants_lib becomes optional, is that right?
02:23 VanessaE yes but keep it to a separate commit
02:23 VanessaE (if you can)
02:23 zat I am going to send it the source so you diff it locally
02:24 VanessaE just fork it and put it on github
02:24 VanessaE make a pull request and I'll be able to see the differences :)
02:24 zat do I need a github account for that?
02:24 VanessaE yes
02:24 zat damn it
02:25 zat I dont want to have one!
02:25 VanessaE it's free and easy to do
02:25 zat I am bored of having to make an account for nearly everything
02:25 zat I have my own git server...
02:25 VanessaE you could do that too as long as I can see the changes somewhere :)
02:26 VanessaE as long as I can git pull xxxx
02:26 zat I am uploading it then to mine
03:33 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=9&amp;t=9315&amp;p=142165#p142165
03:33 zat I use it lol
03:47 VanessaE and...synced to dreambuilder :)
04:20 zat anybody got a beach for v7?
04:42 VanessaE not I..
04:49 zat I got all the trees to spawn purely using v7 biomes + abs
04:49 zat or whatever it was called
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04:49 zat I deleted plants_lib and it still worked!!!
04:50 VanessaE screenshot?
04:51 kaeza v7 + abs!
04:51 kaeza Minetest is working out
04:51 VanessaE ABMs
04:51 VanessaE :P
04:53 * VanessaE waits for long-distance screenshots
04:54 kaeza wat https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_C8qQ5IfzTsw.jpg
04:55 VanessaE jungle trees growing on stone?  eh...
04:55 VanessaE that reminds me, I STILL need to add "roots" to mine
04:59 kaeza they're growing on air
04:59 VanessaE *looks again*
04:59 VanessaE wait atf?
04:59 VanessaE wtf*?
04:59 VanessaE cavegen :D
04:59 kaeza :D
04:59 VanessaE carved the ground right out from under them :D
05:01 VanessaE (I didn't spot the shadow on the water originally)
05:02 zat VanessaE: Hold on
05:03 VanessaE did you remember control for perlin regions, elevation, humidity, temperature, and nearness to water?
05:08 zat no
05:08 zat beause I know nothing of that :D
05:09 zat VanessaE: http://uppix.com/f-screensho​t_40292537ae36f0016791b.jpg
05:14 zat ping
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05:37 kaeza suddenly: Grand Test Auto: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=9316
05:37 kaeza >K-Rose
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07:18 Mikerhinos hi
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11:38 reactor Why does Minetest segfault when I rollover mouse buttons?
11:39 VanessaE well you're supposed to click a mouse button, not roll over it.  duh. :)
11:40 reactor It's apparently the programmer's fault to not have sanity checks.
11:40 reactor Every other program works if you happen to accidently press both buttons.
11:41 proller__ or sapier fault with lot of asserts
11:41 VanessaE actually when you said "rollover" I assumed "hover"
11:41 VanessaE not multi-key roll-over
11:42 VanessaE seems okay here though
11:44 reactor The particular action that causes a crash is: dig and immediately place.
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11:45 reactor If both keys are pressed for the short time, it crashes.
11:45 VanessaE I can't reproduce that
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12:18 reactor Okay, should I provide a memory dump then?
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12:41 Megaf Hi all
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12:42 Megaf Things are good?
12:54 Megaf sfan5: did you read about the Banana Pi already?
12:54 sfan5 Megaf: yes I did
12:54 sfan5 hi everyone btw
12:55 Megaf sfan5: I'm thinking in getting one
12:55 Megaf looks quite good
12:55 * diemartin pets sfan5
12:55 * sfan5 meows at diemartin
12:55 Megaf and cheaper than ODrois
12:55 Megaf ODroids*
12:56 * sfan5 wants an AArch64/arm64/ARMv8 dev board
12:56 Megaf That would be cool, but not for running minetest...
12:56 Megaf minetest can't even use more than a fucking single core
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13:06 sfan5 Megaf: then make the code better, we accept pulls
13:07 Megaf do you?
13:08 Megaf There's a lot of unaccepted pull requests that could improve minetest A LOT
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13:31 zsoltisawesome hmm
13:31 zsoltisawesome odd
13:35 PenguinDad Me today: http://mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw10809​-226741__safe_rainbow-dash_tumblr_image-macro_fil​ly_cute_caption_adorable_50e8353ca4c72dbd2a00111d​_artist-sketchyjackie_my-little-filly_lazy.png
13:36 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: /)
13:36 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome: (\
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13:39 zsoltisawesome haha! "bash: found: command not found"
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13:49 rubenwardy Hi all!
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14:03 Kilos greetings everyone. I am running minetest in single player to learn how to play the game but it start as minimal
14:03 Kilos how do i start minetest_game please
14:04 rubenwardy Make sure you have a folder called "minetest_game" in the games folder in your minetest folder
14:04 rubenwardy An when you create a new world, choose "minetest" in the list box.
14:04 Kilos let me look for that ty rubenwardy
14:04 Kilos im using ubuntu 14.04
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14:07 Vazon !up minetest.org 30012
14:07 MinetestBot minetest.org:30012 seems to be down
14:07 Vazon well crap
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14:39 nman3600 hi
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14:43 diemartin hi
14:43 nman3600 hi
14:44 zsoltisawesome hi
14:44 zsoltisawesome (hi battle!)
14:44 PenguinDad hi
14:44 Amaz hi
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14:46 zsoltisawesome hi
14:47 nman3600 umm this is weird
14:47 nman3600 so i have a craftitem i try to craft it to make the screenshot and to test it and it comes out with a tool
14:47 nman3600 it is not registered to come out as the tool
14:48 diemartin C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER :(
14:48 diemartin (also late to the party)
14:48 zsoltisawesome hi
14:48 diemartin aaaaaaanyway
14:48 zsoltisawesome diemartin: I like parties! can I come? :P
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14:49 nman3600 does anyone have any idea how to fix this
14:49 zsoltisawesome nman3600: is the code on GH?
14:50 diemartin nman3600, can you clarify?
14:50 nman3600 GH?
14:50 zsoltisawesome github
14:50 nman3600 no it isnt zsolt
14:50 zsoltisawesome hmm
14:50 * sfan5 gives diemartin a kitten
14:50 diemartin also, it's Jordach's fault
14:50 Jordach wat
14:50 Jordach WAT
14:50 Jordach y u choose me as the villain
14:50 * diemartin hands the kitten to Jordach
14:50 * zsoltisawesome gives diemartin a dead person named martin
14:50 nman3600 now that's just cold diemartin
14:51 nman3600 Jordach any ideas?
14:51 Jordach i just joined
14:51 Jordach no code == no fixes
14:51 nman3600 so i have a craftitem i try to craft it to make the screenshot and to test it and it comes out with a tool it is not registered to come out as the tool
14:52 rubenwardy Hi kaeza / diemartin
14:52 diemartin hai rubenwardy
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14:52 nman3600 hai rubenwardy
14:52 rubenwardy Hello!
14:52 zsoltisawesome Hi!
14:52 zsoltisawesome Hello!
14:52 diemartin guten tag!
14:53 zsoltisawesome damn
14:53 zsoltisawesome i was about to say that
14:53 diemartin (or however you spell that)
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14:54 Jrock haha lol
14:54 diemartin nman3600, care to post some code / clarify a bit?
14:54 Jrock Krock
14:54 nman3600 ok
14:54 rubenwardy Any reason why "minetest.exe --worldname nbe_test --name player1 --password pass --go" won't load the nbe_test world, and instead loads the first world alphabetically?
14:54 JDach muahahaha ;)
14:55 VRock woo VRock is not registered \o/
14:55 Jrock jrock is D:
14:55 Lrock haha!
14:55 JDach fun fact: whoever nicked my nick would have got ns ghosted
14:56 kaeza Huh?
14:56 Lrock lol
14:56 Krock Hello
14:56 VRock /msg nickserv ghost kaeza ...
14:56 rubenwardy How is that possible?
14:57 nman3600 Krock do you have any ideas my problem is...
14:57 nman3600 so i have a craftitem i try to craft it to make the screenshot and to test it and it comes out with a tool it is not registered to come out as the tool
14:57 VRock <diemartin> nman3600, care to post some code / clarify a bit?
14:57 Krock Do you have any iteas where to find "don't auto-subscribe topics where I posted in"?
14:57 Krock as checkbox.
14:58 VRock UCP -> Settings -> Posting
14:58 nman3600 minetest.register_craftitem("shears:raw_rubber", {     description = "Raw Rubber",     inventory_image = "shears_raw_rubber.png", })
14:58 nman3600 thats the craft item
14:58 nman3600 minetest.register_craft({     output = "shears:raw_rubber",     recipe = {         {"default:clay_lump", "default:papyrus", "default:clay_lump"},         {"default:papyrus", "bucket:bucket_water", "default:papyrus"},         {"default:clay_lump", "default:papyrus", "default:clay_lump"},     } })
14:58 nman3600 thats the crafting recipe
14:58 Krock zsolisnotawesome: I don't see any settings "thing"
14:59 VRock Krock, UCP -> Board prefs -> Edit posting defaults
14:59 Krock nman3600, is "shears:raw_rubber" defined?
14:59 nman3600 >
14:59 nman3600 ?
14:59 Krock "Notify me upon replies by default:", thx. found it.
14:59 VRock "Notify me upon replies by default: Yes/No"
14:59 Lrock lol
14:59 Krock haha
14:59 VRock blargh
14:59 rubenwardy nman3600: can't see anything wrong
14:59 Krock ninja'd
15:00 nman3600 i will send you a screenshot of what happens
15:01 * Krock deletes 108 mails in the spam folder from forums.minetest.net
15:02 * Lrock deletes 133 mails in the spam folder from forums.minetest.net
15:02 Lrock :P
15:02 nman3600 no one has been posting their best builds on my off topic post after i have posted mine :(
15:02 Jordach rubenwardy, thursday is chips day at the sixth form (can of drink + large chips + battered sausage for £3.25) and the chips are literally covered in grease
15:02 * kaeza puts kittens on *rock's heads
15:02 nman3600 nevermind about the bug i had it works now
15:03 rubenwardy We have chips everyday at my college
15:03 Lrock Jordach: sounds delicious
15:03 nman3600 mm chips makes me hungry
15:03 Jordach i'm starting to get a visible beer belly now, and i can't even eat them all
15:03 Jordach (there's usually a layer of chips at the bottom)
15:03 nman3600 beer belly do you mean bare belly?
15:04 rubenwardy A layer of chips at the bottom of your beer bell? ew
15:04 rubenwardy nman3600: no
15:04 nman3600 okay...
15:04 Jordach nman3600, i'm actually quite large at the waist :)
15:04 nman3600 okay :)
15:04 Lrock Jordach: that is infinitly surprising
15:05 Jordach Lrock, i'm extremely athletic
15:05 Jordach i can physically fold myself in half
15:05 rubenwardy bad things are happening
15:05 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/c5c91429110e7d63bdf7
15:05 Lrock Wow!
15:05 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
15:05 Jordach meow :3
15:05 nman3600 sfan5: good cat
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15:06 rubenwardy ooooh
15:06 rubenwardy I haven't done openttd in ages!
15:06 nman3600 the game?
15:07 Krock good old OpenTTD, I played it too.. almost a year ago now
15:07 nman3600 i have that game
15:07 nman3600 i don't play it much anymore
15:07 rubenwardy I get bored of playing it legit
15:07 microcarrot sounds farmiknar
15:07 nman3600 same
15:08 rubenwardy I get £100,000,000, and build an awesome place
15:08 Krock Yeah and the players get too much money when the transport way is useless long
15:08 nman3600 Krock: i agree
15:08 rubenwardy double oh.. there is an update
15:08 Jordach Krock, basically build a Rollercoaster Tycoon esque route
15:08 Jordach with crazy stuff on the loop
15:08 microcarrot i like Rollercoaster Tycoon!
15:09 rubenwardy I like Zoo Tycoon on DS
15:09 Krock Jordach, it calculates by distance, not by rail-length
15:09 microcarrot I think the second one is the best
15:09 microcarrot make it scwigle!
15:09 rubenwardy not sure which ZTC i placed
15:09 rubenwardy *played
15:10 nman3600 how do you make it so a crafting recipe that uses a bucket of water gives you the bucket back?
15:10 rubenwardy Can someone try to reproduce this:
15:10 rubenwardy Any reason why "minetest.exe --worldname nbe_test --name player1 --password pass --go" won't load the nbe_test world, and instead loads the first world alphabetically?
15:10 Krock invalid world name?
15:11 nman3600 would so make it so on the output it has bucket aswell?
15:12 microcarrot imgur has 56,800,235,584 different url combinations!
15:12 Amaz It works for me on linux... minetest --worldname nbe_test --name player1 --password pass --go
15:13 Krock microcarrot, not enough. needs more. how else to upload my collection of kittens?
15:13 microcarrot lol
15:13 nman3600 how do i do it?
15:13 microcarrot !c
15:13 MinetestBot microcarrot: Nothing to calculate.
15:13 Krock nman3600, I don't get what you try
15:14 microcarrot !c 62 ** 6
15:14 MinetestBot 56800235584
15:14 microcarrot ^see
15:14 Krock muuuch kittens
15:14 microcarrot lol
15:14 sfan5 uhh
15:14 nman3600 Krock, i want to make it so i have a crafting recipe that uses a bucket of water but when i craft it i want it to give you the bucket back but instead it takes it
15:14 microcarrot sfan5: uhh what
15:15 sfan5 microcarrot: care to explain where 62 came from and where 6 came  from?
15:15 microcarrot yeah
15:15 Krock nman3600, }, replacements = {{ "bucket:bucket_water", "bucket:bucket_empty"}}  })
15:16 nman3600 and that goes where in the crafting recipe?
15:16 microcarrot imgur has 6 random chars in its url that can be A-z0-9
15:16 microcarrot A-z0-9 is 62 different characters
15:16 Krock ^
15:16 microcarrot ^sfan5
15:16 sfan5 !c 26*2+10
15:16 MinetestBot 62
15:16 Krock nman3600, at the end, see the ')' i did at the back
15:16 sfan5 ah, makes sense
15:16 microcarrot yeah
15:17 Krock microcarrot: /i.imgur.com/123456.123
15:17 Krock or .jpeg
15:18 Krock but the possible "in-site-previews" are what you've said
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15:20 nman3600 so Krock i have lines 61 to 28 minetest.register_craft({ starts on 61 what row would it go on
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15:21 nman3600 *line 68
15:22 nman3600 so... what line krock?
15:23 Krock nman3600,   minetest.register_craft({output="blah", recipe= {{"bucket:bucket_water"}}, replacements = {{ "bucket:bucket_water", "bucket:bucket_empty"}}  })
15:25 nman3600 all i get is an error
15:25 Krock much invormatife
15:25 Krock invormati'fe
15:26 nman3600 16:25:21: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== 16:25:21: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from  16:25:21: ERROR[main]: C:\Users\NIALL\Desktop\Original minetest\bin\..\mods\shears\init.lua: 16:25:21: ERROR[main]: ...LL\Desktop\Original minetest\bin\..\mods\shears\init.lua:68: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 61) near 'replacements' 16:25:21: ERROR[main]: ======= END OF ERROR FROM LUA ======== 16:25:21: ER
15:26 Krock ShadowBot!
15:26 Krock nman3600, dude. seriously?
15:26 sfan5 Krock: that was all one line
15:27 Krock sfan5, seems like multiple \n are in it
15:27 nman3600 all i asked is what line does it go on Krock
15:27 Krock nman3600, that I'd like to know too
15:27 sfan5 Krock: how do you come to that conclusion?
15:27 Krock cuz I've no idea what codes you've got
15:28 nman3600 the lines are 61 to 68 and on 61 minetest.register_craft({ starts
15:28 Krock sfan5, well, it has line breaking in it and that's not because of the IRC client
15:28 Krock nman3600, pastebin. plz.
15:28 sfan5 Krock: I don't see any line breaks, there can't even be any line breaks in that because that does not work with the IRC protocol
15:28 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:28 Amaz nman3600, You've probably missed a comma of line 67.
15:29 * sfan5 meows at PilzAdam
15:29 Amaz s/of/off
15:29 Krock sfan5, how about \r? idk..
15:29 sfan5 Krock: nope, an line can't contain \n nor \r
15:29 * PilzAdam hands sfan5 a cup of milk
15:29 * sfan5 noms the milk
15:29 Krock sfan5, okay.. weird
15:30 * PilzAdam cleans the cup and puts it back
15:31 PilzAdam there should be a "Word story" 2.0, where everyone is only allowed to post "nyan"
15:32 Krock crazy idea.
15:32 Krock I like crazy ideas
15:32 * sfan5 にゃん's at PilzAdam
15:32 PilzAdam ¿¡
15:32 sfan5 にゃん = nyan
15:33 nman3600 Krock http://pastebin.com/u4xAZgRM
15:33 PilzAdam !rainbow nyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyanny​annyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyan​nyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyanny​annyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyanv
15:33 MinetestBot 4n4y4a7n7n7y8a8n8n3y3a3nnya6n6n6yann4y4a4n7n7y7a​8n8n8y3a3n3nyan6n6y6anny4a4n4n7y7a7n8n8y8a3n3n3y​ann6y6a6nnya4n4n4y7a7n7n8y8a8n3n3y3anny6a6n6nyan​4n4y4a7n7n7y8a8n8n3y3a3nnya6n6n6yann4y4a4n7n7y7a​8n8n8y3a3n3nyan6n6y6anny4a4n4n7y7a7n8n8y8a3n3n3y
15:33 * nman3600 holds a treat out to sfan5
15:33 sfan5 !rainbow にゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃ​んにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんに​ゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃん
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15:35 nman3600 Krock i know that the craft thing is out of place
15:35 PenguinDad !rainbow โปรไฟล์นี้เป็นโปรไฟล์ส่วนตัว
15:35 MinetestBot 4โ4ป4ร7ไ7ฟ7ล8์8น8ี3้3เ3ป็น​โ6ป6ร6ไฟล์4ส4่4ว7น7ต7ั8ว8
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15:36 Krock nman3600, http://pastebin.com/k4zcMExv
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15:36 nman3600 thanks Krock
15:38 nman3600 ahh perfect thanks again Krock
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15:39 Krock np
15:39 nman3600 :)
15:39 nman3600 now to make rubber
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15:46 nman3600 hi
15:49 zat hu
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15:53 microcarrot sfan5: what OS does MinetestBot run on?
15:54 Jordach Debian
15:54 sfan5 !py __import__('os').popen("uname -a").read()
15:54 MinetestBot 'Linux butterfly 2.6.32-042stab084.26 #1 SMP Mon Feb 17 21:00:14 MSK 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux\n'
15:54 microcarrot woah
15:54 markveidemanis .read() ?
15:55 microcarrot mark!
15:55 microcarrot cheapo-bot is broken
15:55 microcarrot #mtcm
15:55 blaise Linux midterm2 3.14.4-gentoo #1 Fri May 16 03:13:30 UTC 2014 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
15:55 * markveidemanis reads scroolback
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16:01 zat Ping VanessaE
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16:07 kaeza Calinou, https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9315
16:07 microcarrot !tw @realtinymonster
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16:07 MinetestBot Minecraft is the examplar of Java gaming on PC, but have any 3D games been successful choosing Java over native on Android? (@realtinymonster)
16:08 * SylvieLorxu slaps @realtinymonster for all of the reasons
16:08 zat kaeza: I think you should have commited v2 to the original repo.
16:09 kaeza zat, the original is still used, and v2 is WIP
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16:09 kaeza (and too lazy to be bothered with branches)
16:09 zat if it is WIP shouldn't it be v2.0a?
16:09 zat I am not sure really.
16:09 microcarrot SylvieLorxu: can you think of a better game?
16:10 microcarrot BTW that was John Carmack, not me
16:12 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add joining player to printed player list 73e5bc9c01 2014-05-20T18:09:32+02:00 http://git.io/LLZhRA
16:14 Calinou kaeza, ?
16:14 kaeza Calinou, weren't you who asked for an xban mod topic?
16:15 Calinou ah
16:15 Calinou thanks
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16:18 zat MinetestBot: “encoding” email addresses to use at-dot instead of @-. ...like spam bots didn't know how to recognize those already. lol
16:19 PenguinDad zat: sapier does that not MinetestBot
16:20 zat I know, commiters do, I am just commenting to MinetestBot.
16:20 zat ...to see what he thinks.
16:21 PenguinDad s/he/she/
16:22 zat there are no women on the internet
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16:24 kaeza wrong, bots are all females
16:24 zat <VanessaE> nope.avi
16:24 kaeza MinetestBot!
16:24 MinetestBot kaeza!
16:24 * PenguinDad slaps zat
16:25 kaeza ShadowBot!
16:25 kaeza you suck
16:25 zat PenguinDad: no plz, not in public
16:27 PenguinDad this isn't the public this is the minetrix :>
16:28 zat &$&%&$#
16:28 zat iyada
16:28 kaeza lol minetrix
16:29 zat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trix_%28cereal%29
16:35 zsoltisawesome lol
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16:43 SylvieLorxu zsoltisawesome: A better game than Minecraft? Easily...
16:43 SylvieLorxu A better game written in Java: Barely, because Java is a terrible platform for games
16:45 RealBadAngel Terasology is written in java
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16:45 RealBadAngel http://blog.movingblocks.net/blockmania/
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16:49 PenguinDad and terasology barely runs at lowest settings here
16:49 SylvieLorxu Okay, fair enough
16:50 kaeza There's also Heroes of Umbra
16:51 kaeza oh wait... 3D
16:51 whiskers75 SylvieLorxu: meow!
16:51 SylvieLorxu whiskers75: Nya?
16:52 PenguinDad whiskers75: !woem
16:52 whiskers75 sfan5*
16:52 whiskers75 sfan5: meow!
16:52 SylvieLorxu Aww :(
16:52 reactor zat: http://easyquestion.net/thinkagain/wp​-content/uploads/2009/06/got_milk.jpg
16:52 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
16:52 whiskers75 sfan5: MY PIGLOW ARRIVER
16:52 whiskers75 D*
16:52 reactor pilcrow?
16:52 whiskers75 PiGlow
16:52 whiskers75 I'm using it to display load average
16:52 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75's PiGlow
16:53 whiskers75 sfan5: the piglow is currently glowing yellow
16:53 reactor Everyone likes bells and whistles.
16:53 whiskers75 it just moved up
16:53 zsoltisawesome !btc HUF
16:53 * sfan5 taps whiskers75
16:53 sfan5 !btc
16:53 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 500.0000 $
16:54 microcarrot !btc HUF
16:54 MinetestBot microcarrot: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
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16:54 microcarrot ahg!
16:54 microcarrot no HUF?
16:54 microcarrot why!
16:54 reactor btc щщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщ​щщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщ
16:54 reactor !btc щщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщ​щщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщ
16:54 MinetestBot reactor: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
16:54 whiskers75 ring2, <0.8
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16:55 Jordach !dogew
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16:55 Jordach !doge
16:55 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT
16:55 zat lel
16:55 PenguinDad !doge
16:55 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000099 BTC
16:55 zat and one more thing... lightning in terasology looks so fake/annoying.
16:55 reactor What does the "Doge" meme mean?
16:55 zat they call it “beautiful”... I call it... a... thing...
16:55 zat annoying!
16:57 reactor Why would they use Java for yet another project?
16:57 reactor Hasn't Minecraft shown it's too slow for that?
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16:58 khonkhortisan it's a picture of a dog, accompanied by bad grammar. The altcoin is powered by how people feel about the meme. It has no other advancements in the Bitcoin protocol.
16:58 zat most Minecraft players are kids with powerful computers, they don't ever realize.
16:59 reactor That's right.
17:00 reactor Most computer users*
17:00 reactor We've got the whole industry going to nowhere.
17:04 Jordach terasology = lagfest even on my hardware
17:04 Jordach minecraft with sonic ethers shaders = non lagfest
17:04 microcarrot ^that says something
17:05 Jordach i nail 30fps on my hardware (compare to 170fps without shaders enabled)
17:05 zat reactor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_Law
17:05 microcarrot There is this law
17:05 microcarrot I like it
17:05 microcarrot Its so amazing
17:05 microcarrot Chat spam
17:06 reactor zat: yeah, totally. That's because people are too dumb to be let use computers.
17:06 reactor Most are.
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17:07 zat but they work with them!
17:08 microcarrot john_ponytest!
17:08 Jordach TIL Windows Task Manager uses more cpu time than Firefox
17:09 reactor No surprise. It's one poorly designed operating system.
17:10 zat poorly designed? nobody uses linux!
17:10 zat all use windows, it has to be for a reason? dont you think?
17:10 khonkhortisan All use qwerty, that doesn't mean it's any good.
17:10 zat It works
17:10 zat and I type fast with it
17:10 khonkhortisan Others work better, yet we use what we've always used.
17:10 reactor Yes. People are not smart enough to learn. Learning curve of UNIX is steeper.
17:11 reactor "most popular" does not always mean "the best".
17:11 khonkhortisan You may not type any faster, but your fingers will travel less.
17:11 * Jordach kinda likes the procedural clouds :3 https://mediacru.sh/104ceedd6b90
17:11 reactor If your task manager eats up more resources than the tasks you're supposed to view with it, it's a major flaw.
17:11 microcarrot khonkhortisan: not worth inversting in a new keyboard
17:11 khonkhortisan ...
17:12 * Jordach 's cost £9.99 and is waterproof
17:12 khonkhortisan Software.
17:12 zat reactor: linux is not compatible with games
17:12 zat or direct-x
17:12 microcarrot khonkhortisan: not worth inversting in a new Dvorak keyboard
17:12 reactor Surprise! It is!
17:12 khonkhortisan You already have a dvorak keyboard.
17:12 zat linux is not compatible with drivers!
17:12 khonkhortisan You have many layouts in your current operating system.
17:13 reactor zat: ignorance detected.
17:13 khonkhortisan Zat, I must counter your statement that linux is not compatible with games, with the statement that windows is not compatible with multiboxing.
17:13 reactor zat: bye!
17:13 zat there are no linux viruses because nobody cares of hacking linux computers
17:13 khonkhortisan You may only use one mouse cursor at any one time.
17:13 microcarrot khonkhortisan: /ctcp microcarrot version
17:13 john_minetest Hello everypony
17:13 microcarrot hi
17:13 john_minetest Hi microcarrot
17:13 zat can I use photoshop on linux? no
17:13 Krock lol
17:13 zat :)
17:13 Krock <CTCP-VERSION:microcarrot>MS-DOS, you moron...
17:14 PenguinDad Hey john_minetest
17:14 microcarrot harhar
17:14 john_minetest Nice song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cD0X5-GE5s
17:14 Krock <3
17:14 reactor !title
17:14 MinetestBot reactor: Hark all ye lovely saints above - Thomas Weelkes (1576 - 1623) &quot;subtitles&quot; included - YouT[...]
17:14 zat reactor: and the worst.... there are too many linuxes, I cant learn of all them.
17:14 zat all of them*
17:14 microcarrot !c 1+1^2
17:14 MinetestBot 0
17:14 microcarrot lol
17:14 Krock MinetestBot, use HtmlUtilities.HtmlDecode()!
17:14 microcarrot oops
17:14 john_minetest :D
17:14 khonkhortisan There is no reason to. I can create a new distro just by removing a package from another.
17:14 microcarrot !c 1+1**2
17:14 MinetestBot 2
17:15 PenguinDad !c 2**2
17:15 john_minetest hmmm, what does my ctcp version say?
17:15 MinetestBot 4
17:15 zat reactor: also, it is open source and free... who will fix the software?
17:15 microcarrot john_minetest: /ctcp john_minetest version
17:15 Krock <CTCP-VERSION:john_minetest>HexChat 2.9.6 / Linux 3.14.4-1-ARCH [x86_64/830,50MHz/SMP]
17:15 zat reactor: and any say linux will become proprietary.
17:15 zat :D !!!!!
17:15 khonkhortisan The person that can code and is annoyed with it not working right.
17:15 zat reactor: that is why you and I and all should get a Microsoft certification
17:16 khonkhortisan I'm working on firefox's spell checker because it can't use multiple dictionaries at the same time.
17:16 john_minetest reactor: Linux is the best.
17:16 reactor k.
17:16 Calinou a kernel is the best.
17:16 Calinou <zat> reactor: also, it is open source and free... who will fix the software?
17:16 Calinou you 8)
17:16 zat reactor, Calinou: it is open source, it means that anybody can know how to develop a virus for it.
17:16 zat :D!
17:16 john_minetest Well, sortix/trianglix might be slightly cooler than linux.
17:16 Krock kernel32.dll for the win, Calinou, yes! YOu're right!
17:16 khonkhortisan The same could be said of minetest
17:16 Calinou <zat> can I use photoshop on linux? no
17:16 Calinou it's not like I miss it too much
17:16 reactor I'd only add that Linux is a poor clone of UNIX.
17:17 john_minetest zat: gimp is much cooler than photoshop
17:17 whiskers75 sfan5: next thing: make the pie meow
17:17 zat reactor: linux is a poor clone of windows
17:17 john_minetest reactor: It is a GOOD clone of UNIX. BSD is a poor fork of UNIX.
17:17 zat they tried to copy Windows Vista effects
17:17 zat with that thing called compiz
17:17 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75's pie
17:17 * whiskers75 's pie meows back at sfan5
17:17 john_minetest zat: Nobody uses compiz
17:17 * whiskers75 sticks a hand up
17:17 reactor john_minetest: you've never seriously used it then.
17:17 zat because nobody uses linux
17:17 whiskers75 I use compiz!
17:17 whiskers75 I use linux!
17:17 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((((--<
17:18 * sfan5 noms john_minetest and throws the fishy at whiskers75
17:18 khonkhortisan I use compiz, and that's only something on top of a windowmanager, which windows can't change out
17:18 zat since aero was invented by Microsoft, all linuxes tried to copy it.
17:18 john_minetest reactor: There are more packages for Linux. The only application that BSD has, is as a firewall.
17:18 PenguinDad I use KDE and linux!
17:18 zat there is more software for windows.
17:18 john_minetest i3 and linux
17:18 Krock I use explorer.exe and windows!
17:18 khonkhortisan Windows is more popular for personal computers, while linux is more popular for servers.
17:18 zat for linux you must download and compile and it is nearly impossible to install software easily
17:18 reactor I use ПЫЙВЛБ and ЪДТБЧУФЧХКФЕ.
17:19 zat everything is cryptic and command line
17:19 Krock zat, exactly.
17:19 john_minetest zat: Maybe a bit more software. But only because nearly all the stuff coded for linux can also be ported to windows :)
17:19 zat john_minetest: it is because windows is compatible with all software
17:19 khonkhortisan zat. I have a repository where I can download many packages. Windows requires firefox and flash to have their own autoupdaters.
17:19 zat try to run firefox on windows, it works, despite it is for linux
17:19 zat try to run photoshop in linux, wont work, because linux is not compatible
17:19 john_minetest zat: If you use the right distro, you nearly never need the commandline.
17:20 reactor "all software"
17:20 reactor "right distro"
17:20 khonkhortisan Only a program that is written to be cross-compatible is.
17:20 khonkhortisan Would you like me to find an example of a program that doesn't work on windows?
17:20 john_minetest zat: firefox runs on windows because it is open source and some people thought that it would be cool to run this on windows. Photoshop is proprietary and they don't care about Linux.
17:20 reactor You guys are surely worth quoting. *smirk*
17:20 john_minetest reactor: You are not reading.
17:20 john_minetest "nearly all the stuff"
17:21 zat john_minetest: I download firefox and it JUST RUNS in windows
17:21 john_minetest Lol. if you are lucky.
17:21 zat if I just download photoshop, it just wont run in linux.
17:21 zat ...
17:21 microcarrot zat: and you download firefox and it JUST RUNS in linux too
17:21 khonkhortisan What is your point? That mozilla cares about cross-compatibility and (whoever makes photoshop) doesn't?
17:21 john_minetest If you download any application for windows, it could be spyware.
17:21 john_minetest There are a lot of sites faking VLC media player.
17:21 john_minetest So you think you are on the vlc site and actually you download some trojan.
17:22 Krock god antivirus ftw
17:22 zat because it is open source
17:22 zat it is open source so anybody can download it and compile it and say they made it
17:22 reactor And package managers let you install stuff without ever opening a browser.
17:22 ShadowNinja Jordach: It's possible that it sees more CPU usage from itself because it's running at the moment, but that would be a bug.
17:22 zat ehem&/$#freemin**ehem
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17:22 john_minetest On linux you have got a package manager. You don't even need a browser-
17:22 microcarrot !py print "Hi"
17:22 microcarrot i assume admin only?
17:22 khonkhortisan photoshop is closed source. Anyone could say they decompiled it, changed a line, and recompiled it and say they made it.
17:22 john_minetest zat: No, you can't say that you made it when it is open source.
17:22 john_minetest There are licenses for that.
17:23 zat I am surprised that you all seriously argue with me when you all know that I am Archlinux user since 2007.
17:23 zat :)
17:23 reactor zat is planning to be the new Denis Popov
17:23 khonkhortisan Whether something is open-source or closed-source, if you're not following licencing, doesn't stop you from editing the instructions.
17:23 reactor "BolgenOS, the principally new OS"
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17:23 john_minetest :P
17:24 zat no!! a rain of /whois!!!
17:24 ShadowNinja ~eval 'microcarrot: Yes.'
17:24 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 'microcarrot: Yes.'
17:24 john_minetest reactor: Sometimes you have to use a browser to use the package manager. There is some bsd distro for firewalls that has a browser-based PM.
17:24 john_minetest ;)
17:25 reactor Boy, I gotta see that.
17:25 khonkhortisan eew
17:25 khonkhortisan So I could load a website on the lan?
17:25 microcarrot lol
17:25 microcarrot Zat is purple!
17:25 khonkhortisan purple on my irc client
17:25 ShadowNinja !c char(50)
17:25 john_minetest reactor: Can't recall the name. It runs pfsense. Don't know more about that.
17:25 MinetestBot NameError: name 'char' is not defined
17:25 ShadowNinja !c chr(50)
17:25 MinetestBot '2'
17:26 reactor How do you know if someone is /whois'ing you?
17:26 john_minetest !c wubwubwub-dubstep!
17:26 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
17:26 khonkhortisan you don't
17:26 zat I am purple D:
17:26 ShadowNinja microcarrot: !c runs python code though.  Have fun breaking the sandbox.
17:26 ShadowNinja ;-)
17:26 microcarrot hmm
17:26 microcarrot !c random.randint()
17:26 MinetestBot TypeError: randint() takes exactly 3 arguments (1 given)
17:26 khonkhortisan old_sandbox = sandbox; sandbox = import python
17:26 reactor 23:24 < zat> no!! a rain of /whois!!!
17:26 microcarrot !c random.randint(1,100)
17:26 MinetestBot 54
17:26 microcarrot !c random.randint(1,100)
17:26 MinetestBot 65
17:27 microcarrot !c print version
17:27 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
17:27 microcarrot !c print("Butter!")
17:27 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
17:27 PenguinDad !c "xa" * 10
17:27 MinetestBot 'xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa'
17:27 microcarrot !c print('Butter!')
17:27 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
17:28 Krock !c print "Butter!"
17:28 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
17:28 Krock err
17:28 microcarrot !c "I like Chocolate Pudding" 2^2
17:28 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
17:28 microcarrot !c "I like Chocolate Pudding" * 2^2
17:28 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for ^: 'str' and 'int'
17:28 microcarrot !c "I like Chocolate Pudding" * 2**2
17:28 MinetestBot 'I like Chocolate PuddingI like Chocolate PuddingI like Chocolate PuddingI like Chocolate Pudding'
17:28 microcarrot !c "I like Chocolate Pudding! " * 2**2
17:28 MinetestBot 'I like Chocolate Pudding! I like Chocolate Pudding! I like Chocolate Pudding! I like Chocolate Pudding! '
17:28 john_minetest HARK!
17:29 microcarrot Krock: !c "Butter!" * !
17:29 microcarrot *1
17:29 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cD0X5-GE5s
17:29 john_minetest
17:29 PenguinDad !c "Butter!"
17:29 MinetestBot 'Butter!'
17:29 john_minetest Stop spamming :P
17:29 microcarrot !spam
17:29 microcarrot :P
17:29 john_minetest !c "SPiced hAM"
17:29 MinetestBot 'SPiced hAM'
17:30 john_minetest !spam
17:30 microcarrot !c split
17:30 john_minetest !stahp
17:30 MinetestBot NameError: name 'split' is not defined
17:30 microcarrot !c split()
17:30 Vazon mhmm anyone got any idea how to add a mod to the moreblocks mod?
17:30 reactor edit init.lua?
17:30 microcarrot !c split("Hello World!")[::-1]
17:30 MinetestBot NameError: name 'split' is not defined
17:30 microcarrot damn
17:30 microcarrot i must remember wrong
17:31 microcarrot !rainbow Hey MinetestBot!
17:31 MinetestBot 4H4e4y7 7M7i8n8e8t3e3s3tBot6!
17:31 Calinou don't abuse the bot
17:31 Calinou there's ##minetestbot
17:32 reactor john_minetest: oh, I forgot to ask. Any new projects?
17:32 john_minetest Yeah.
17:32 john_minetest Some C++ programming, some C programming, some 3d modelling
17:32 zat Microsoft confirms they are considering making Windows a GNU/Linux (or BSD) distro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XORiPRae51I
17:32 Vazon i have looked in there and it doesnt seem to be in there
17:33 microcarrot zat lol
17:33 reactor Aha.
17:33 whiskers75 ♥ ShadowBot
17:33 zat :)
17:33 reactor !title
17:33 MinetestBot reactor: Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 2013 (PARODY) #WIGGLE - YouTube
17:33 khonkhortisan that looked like a highlight to me
17:33 zat screw you MinetestBot!
17:33 reactor *okay.jpg*
17:33 john_minetest Question:
17:34 zat Answer:
17:34 PenguinDad Answer: 42
17:34 khonkhortisan *virus.exe.txt.jpg*
17:34 john_minetest Does a rickroll count if I got no flash and HTML5 disabled?
17:34 reactor Answer: 65535
17:34 Krock yes,it counts
17:34 zat You cannot disable HTML5.
17:34 microcarrot zat, yes to can
17:34 zat No you cannot.
17:34 khonkhortisan They have rickrolled you, but you have not been rickrolled by them in that case.
17:34 microcarrot you use an outdated browser!
17:34 zat I have been web-developer for 10 years, your argument is invalid.
17:35 john_minetest I am using the newest firefox.
17:35 Krock zat, show me how to enable HTML5 on netscape navigator
17:35 khonkhortisan The question was about disabling.
17:35 zat Kock: I didnt say that is possible.
17:35 Calinou john_minetest, YouTube should always fallback to HTML 5 if you don't have Flash
17:35 john_minetest It doesn't.
17:35 Krock well... if it's not enabled, then it's disabled
17:35 khonkhortisan In a web browser that already has html5, to make it not use it.
17:35 Calinou HTML 5 will only be used in embedded videos if you have no Flash, even if you have HTML 5 program enabled!
17:35 john_minetest Maybe it is some of the blocked javascripts.
17:35 Calinou so, remove your Flash to make it really work
17:35 john_minetest Calinou^
17:35 microcarrot what john_minetest means to say is that his flash is off and he isn't in the HTML5 youtube beta.
17:36 john_minetest Calinou: I got no flash.
17:36 BlockMen Calinou, no. it uses HTML5 aswell when you have flash installed
17:36 john_minetest How do I get into the HTML5 beta? It never works for me?
17:36 john_minetest Does it require cookies?
17:36 reactor http://bfolder.ru/_ph/33/2/513721157.jpg <-- zat arguing (sketchy!)
17:36 microcarrot http://youtube.com/html5
17:36 microcarrot ^ john_minetest
17:36 zat HTML5... plz guys... maybe you mean the video element which is part of the HTML5 spec and which just happen to be supported if added through scripting to a document which not necessarily is valid html5.
17:36 reactor !title
17:36 MinetestBot reactor: YouTube
17:36 zat :D!!!!!
17:36 zat LMAO
17:36 john_minetest microcarrot: Doesn't work for me.
17:37 microcarrot odd
17:37 john_minetest It says: "Click here" and still doesn't play html5.
17:37 john_minetest Most likely my cookie or JS policy.
17:37 zat exactly, HTML5 Video player != HTML5.
17:37 BlockMen flash > html5 (on youtube)
17:37 zat See? I won the argument.
17:37 zat period
17:37 microcarrot .rainbow .py print ".rainbow .py print '.tw @RealTinyMonster'"
17:37 zat menstruation...
17:37 microcarrot ^that
17:37 john_minetest HTML5 video player seems to use the <video> element.
17:37 zat I mean period.
17:37 rubenwardy HTML5 is awesome
17:38 john_minetest mpv is awesome.
17:38 microcarrot HTML6 is awesomeer!
17:38 zat mlp
17:38 Calinou O_o HexChat can click links with Ctrl?
17:38 BlockMen html 4.1 ftw :P
17:38 john_minetest !rainbow RAINBOW DASH!
17:38 MinetestBot 4R4A4I7N7B7O8W8 8D3A3S3H!
17:38 Calinou halleluiah
17:38 Krock HTTP/1.1 ftw
17:38 PenguinDad Javascript is awkward
17:38 zat PenguinDad: its awesome
17:38 zat NodeJS is da sheet
17:38 ShadowNinja john_minetest: HTML 5 is only supported for some videos (or was).
17:38 john_minetest GET / HTTP/1.0
17:38 reactor JavaScript must die a slow and painful death.
17:39 john_minetest ShadowNinja: I got JS blocker and no flash. And no cookies.
17:39 reactor And programmers cobbling sites togethet using JS must be hung by their testicles.
17:39 microcarrot reactor: then how would HTML5 work?
17:39 rubenwardy It has a lot of bad points.
17:39 Calinou ShadowNinja, I have yet to see an embedded YouTube video requiring Flash
17:39 reactor s/het/her/
17:39 zat reactor: it is exactly the opposite, it is getting huger and huger and awesomer and incrediblerer.
17:39 BlockMen john_minetest, disable js blocker for youtube could help?
17:39 rubenwardy I like js, though, regardless
17:40 Calinou JavaScript is fine, but abuse and tracking using it is not
17:40 reactor huger is not necessarily awesomer and incredibler
17:40 reactor it's usually the opposite
17:40 Calinou less and less things need JavaScript today, thankfully
17:40 Calinou (thanks to HTML 5 and CSS 3)
17:40 zat reactor: huger in its adoption
17:41 zat javascript is awesome, that some abuse it and dont know how to use it doesnt make it less awesome.
17:41 BlockMen "Trollhattan, Sweden", lol
17:41 BlockMen this really exists
17:41 zat Web-development is a huge market, and as such, full of fake/amateur developers.
17:41 reactor Web programmers tend to shove it in every hole.
17:41 BlockMen thought it is a joke^^
17:42 zat I mean... people that can (most of the time barely) code, and call themselves developer
17:42 zat they normally think html is a programming language
17:42 zat LOL
17:42 reactor What is it then?
17:42 zat markup language
17:43 zat to structure a document
17:43 zat nowadays semantically
17:43 khonkhortisan You can put javascript or php into it and make it a language, but really it's on top of xml.
17:43 zat khonkhortisan: you dont make it anything else by embedding things
17:43 zat and... you cannot put php into html
17:44 reactor Well, in Russian, they usually call HTML a programming language.
17:44 khonkhortisan <?php looking like an html tag confused me
17:45 zat reactor: yes, they are super wrong lol
17:45 khonkhortisan let's start using HTPL
17:45 zat khonkhortisan: it actually is meant to look like ax XML processing instruction
17:45 PenguinDad khonkhortisan: you can put html into php
17:45 khonkhortisan HyperText Programming Language
17:46 reactor Naming is not the point.
17:46 zat maybe to make “embedded” php pass as valid html in a xml parser
17:46 reactor However you call it, the problem lies in the fact that 23:42 < zat> I mean... people that can (most of the time barely) code, and call themselves developer
17:47 zat anyway nobody adds php in an html file in a sintactically valid way
17:47 zat reactor: and most of that is thanks to php
17:47 zat I developed PHP *professionally* for 8 years...
17:47 reactor But you got me there: I know potatoes about the so called "web development".
17:47 khonkhortisan and I touched it once
17:48 zat the more I learned about it and could compare it to other web-development techs... the more I disliked it.
17:48 khonkhortisan So I didn't know php couldn't be put in html
17:48 zat khonkhortisan: you can make php look like it is put in html, but only by appearance
17:48 zat the php preprocessor will first evaluate all the php chunks and deliver the actual resultant html
17:49 zat resulting*
17:50 khonkhortisan So you can copy an html page, surround a real php script with that, and add a View Source button (to the page that was copied) that directs the user to the php file
17:50 zat I didnt get it. :S
17:50 john_minetest BlockMen: I won't let a google service give me cookies or execute JS on my computer.
17:51 rubenwardy lol
17:51 rubenwardy I use pretty much every google service
17:51 BlockMen john_minetest, thats paranoid
17:52 khonkhortisan Let's say I have MainPage.html, which uses script.php. On MainPage.html, I have a link to view script.php. I make a new file, copy MainPage.html into it, copy script.php into the middle of that, then save over script.php
17:52 john_minetest BlockMen: May be.
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17:53 rubenwardy BlockMen: You won't be laughing when they know what cat videos you watched! It's horrifying!
17:53 zat khonkhortisan: which uses script.php, in what way?
17:53 khonkhortisan The html fluff in script.php matches the actual html used in MainPage.html, to confuse the reader.
17:53 * BlockMen doesnt watch cat videos :P
17:53 lolol Ello
17:53 khonkhortisan Umm, let's say MainPage.html is generated by script.php.
17:54 zat khonkhortisan: so what url you visit?
17:54 lolol So what r u doin?
17:54 khonkhortisan You visit /MainPage.html, which gives you a link to /script.php, and you can view the code of either.
17:55 khonkhortisan watching you leave, lolol!
17:55 zat khonkhortisan: you cannot view the code of a php file, not through the browser.
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17:56 PenguinDad write a quine in php for viewing the content of script.php
17:56 zat quine?
17:56 Noogah Hi all! Can somebody give me more info about SFan's recorder client?
17:56 khonkhortisan Then /MainPage.html, /script.php, and /script.php.txt
17:56 zat Noogah: hi, it records.
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17:56 Noogah So I assumed - but I can't find it anywhere
17:56 microcarrot lol
17:56 rubenwardy Some people are d_ckheads
17:57 ShadowNinja Calinou: I think YT converted their whole DB to a HTML-5-compatible format a little while back.
17:57 khonkhortisan See how little I know about php? It doesn't go in html, and it can't be read directly.
17:57 zat I dont know it but did you already try github or gitorious? (Noogah)
17:57 zat khonkhortisan: php is always evaluated on the server, the visitor will always see only the result of the script.
17:57 ShadowNinja Calinou: But I've used the beta for over a year, and it only worked on new videos before.
17:58 lolol Ello shadow
17:59 zat brb
17:59 Noogah I didn't think to check github. Where would it be? I assumed it was a private project
17:59 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest_game: Fix semitransparent pixel in bread's texture. 579c279be2 2014-05-20T19:58:30+02:00 http://git.io/nLsb9g
17:59 khonkhortisan So in my hypothetical server, script.php is run to create MainPage.html, which the user sees. That has a link to script.php.txt, which can be read like a text file. It is a copy of script.php. script.php is a copy of the original script.php, but with MainPage.html surrounding it.
18:00 lolol Can anyone hear me?
18:00 khonkhortisan echo: can anyone hear me? ...anyone hear...
18:00 PenguinDad SPEAK A BIT LOUDER PLEASE!
18:01 lolol :/
18:01 ShadowNinja Hello lolol.  Do I know you?
18:01 lolol Forking hell
18:02 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
18:02 microcarrot lolol: why would you fork hell?
18:02 microcarrot fork minetest instead
18:02 microcarrot :P
18:02 khonkhortisan So script.php is php "in" an html file, where only the php is evaluated and the html is treated like comments.
18:03 lolol Forking hell means f**king hell
18:03 sfan5 GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER SPOTIFY! LET ME FUCKING HEAR MUSIC NOW! </caps>
18:03 microcarrot lol
18:03 microcarrot lolol: this is a highly unfiltered audiance...
18:03 CraigyDavi Use soundcloud then :P
18:04 PenguinDad The forking hell must be an awful place! Because there a forks everywhere.
18:05 CraigyDavi The gateway to forking hell: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/network
18:05 Jordach wait what
18:05 Jordach <MinetestBot> GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest_game: Fix semitransparent pixel in bread's texture. 579c279be2 2014-05-20T19:58:30+02:00 http://git.io/nLsb9g
18:05 Jordach WTFD
18:05 Jordach MTG is frozen
18:05 khonkhortisan knifing hell had a lot of death, spooning hell had PDAs, sporking hell was kind of confusing.
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18:06 nman3600 hi
18:06 khonkhortisan hello
18:06 CraigyDavi hi nman3600
18:06 nman3600 omg my legs are so weak and bad
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18:08 nman3600 hi
18:09 nman3600 my legs are so painful
18:11 * microcarrot hits nman3600's legs with a baseball bat
18:11 microcarrot does that feel better?
18:11 PenguinDad lol my legs are quite strong
18:12 * Jordach has extremely strong bones, but weak muscles
18:12 Jordach i can barely walk up a incline of 15 degrees before my legs give
18:13 Jordach (but oddly i can walk for miles if it's flat terrain)
18:15 nman3600 the thing is i might have arthritis in my legs if you don't know what it is google it
18:18 nman3600 i was just sitting in my chair and then a huge pain just hit my legs i then stood up and my legs just collapsed and i was laying on my floor not able to move
18:18 microcarrot ouch
18:18 nman3600 yep
18:18 microcarrot nman3600: are you elderly or smtn?
18:19 nman3600 i am 10
18:23 Jordach the shit i find in my inbox
18:23 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Hqn1g4j9pVBv.png
18:27 rubenwardy I nearly never get spam
18:27 rubenwardy *almost
18:28 Jordach i just find it interesting, due to the contents of it
18:30 nman3600 i get loads of spam lol
18:31 CraigyDavi "a tried and tested formula for your willy size"
18:31 CraigyDavi lol
18:31 CraigyDavi I never get spam
18:31 CraigyDavi I use mailinator when they require an email but I don't want spam from them
18:31 Jordach my problem for having my mail public ;P
18:32 zsoltisawesome Jordach: make a junk email
18:32 rubenwardy I have rubenwardy@gmail.com public, and I still don't get any spam.
18:32 rubenwardy Actually, I never check the spam folder of rubenwardy@gmail.com...
18:32 rubenwardy (rubenwardy@gmail.com just forwards to my real email address)
18:32 khonkhortisan I have (now two, because I forgot about the first) bugzilla accounts, and they haven't spammed me
18:33 CraigyDavi That being said: https://mediacru.sh/kjNMnXK2qFQ-.png
18:33 khonkhortisan image error.
18:34 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kjNMnXK2qFQ-.png
18:35 CraigyDavi It automatically sets email notifications to true when posting
18:35 CraigyDavi That's why I have changed my email on the forums to dog@cat.com
18:36 * CraigyDavi slaps forum moderators
18:37 Jordach already had a shout at the ShadowNinja
18:37 rubenwardy I hate it when software tells me that my name is Rubenwardy not rubenwardy
18:37 ShadowNinja Jordach: Hmmm?  You can disable auto-subscribe in the UCP.
18:38 Jordach it should be off by default
18:38 Jordach you seem to think users will edit their UCP
18:38 Jordach guess a-fucking-gain
18:39 Jordach sfan5, ^
18:39 sfan5 Jordach: tell one of the forum admins
18:39 CraigyDavi It defaults to subscribing you to the topic
18:40 ShadowNinja I'm not sure if the default default is configurable.
18:40 Jordach if you rely on users to edit their settings when all they want to do is post, then you've got a fucking issue
18:40 CraigyDavi When using the tickbox when posting it does not save that information for the next time when posting
18:40 sfan5 Jordach: you should try this when you're angry: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GAlx8oOsSTkz.png
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18:41 Jordach that doesn't fucking help
18:41 sfan5 PETTING KITTENS ALWAYS HELPS!
18:41 Jordach considering it'll just come around again when another user complains
18:41 sfan5 にゃん
18:41 nman3600 KITTENS!!!!
18:41 sfan5 then pet more kittens
18:42 * sfan5 throws some 猫's at Jordach
18:42 * nman3600 pets all the kittens
18:42 sfan5 s/'//
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18:48 CraigyDavi ShadowNinja, If you run this SQL query it will update all existing and new users to not be notified when posting a new thread http://pastie.org/private/fnm7atlmpcvsuk7uzps6ug
18:49 CraigyDavi I used that on my old phpbb forum ages ago
18:49 Jordach hold on
18:49 Jordach did i just see competence in #minetest
18:49 CraigyDavi or go to includes/functions_user.php and change user_notify to 0 (only for new users)
18:50 CraigyDavi But I'm sure it would be best for all existing users too though :)
18:51 CraigyDavi and yes Jordach you did :)
18:51 Noogah It would be really great if there was a way to migrate something from one server to another
18:51 Jordach Noogah, migrating minetest severs are easy
18:52 Jordach just copy the  conf, games folder, and worlds over (and recompile)
18:52 VanessaE hi
18:52 VanessaE zat: pong
18:52 CraigyDavi hi
18:52 * VanessaE ignores the rest of the scrollback.  tl;dr
18:53 Noogah No, I mean, I have a creation on Redcrab that I wish I could transfer to VannesaE's server
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18:53 VanessaE Noogah: Sokomine can help you with that
18:53 * VanessaE pokes Sokomine and sfan5
18:54 sfan5 hm?
18:54 Noogah Really?
18:54 VanessaE unless you just want to build it from scratch of course
18:54 Noogah No, I spent months working on it. Not really into rebuilding it
18:54 Noogah So it's really possible?
18:54 VanessaE sfan5: remember the map caching thing you two worked on?  seems like it might be of use here unless his part of Redcrab's server is already in Sokomine's cache
18:55 Noogah Vanessa, I contacted sfan to get his map caching client for that precise reason
18:56 Noogah Except, I didn't know it could be used like that. I was going to work on a bot to rebuild it brick by brick :P
18:56 sfan5 VanessaE: saving the map to disk, not caching
18:56 VanessaE sfan5: yes, disk cache :)
18:56 VanessaE I was being generic :)
18:58 Noogah Well, anyways, are you saying that data could be plopped straight into the server?
18:58 VanessaE anyways, if Sokomine still has the version of that modified client that can sign onto and capture Redcrab's map, she should be able to grab the appropriate parts and get a worldedit file to me, which i can transplant onto any of my maps
18:58 Noogah Cool! I think I can produce that file for you, Vanessa
18:59 VanessaE oh ok
18:59 VanessaE sure, do that then
18:59 Noogah Awesome!
18:59 VanessaE forum pm/file attach or email me the file and we'll work out where to put it
19:00 Noogah Excellent! Will do. Thanks a lot
19:01 zat VanessaE: your impressions plz → http://uppix.com/f-screensho​t_40292537ae36f0016791b.jpg
19:01 zat 100% plantslibless
19:02 VanessaE zat: oh yes, I saw that
19:02 VanessaE it looks good
19:02 VanessaE but you have to include controls like the ones I described
19:02 zat VanessaE: I added a new option moretrees.enable_plantslib
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19:02 VanessaE detect the presence of plants_lib and work against that instead
19:02 VanessaE if minetest.get_modpath("plants_lib") then  ...... it's enabled ........ end
19:03 zat you mean try to use plants_lib if available?
19:03 VanessaE yes
19:03 zat well, enable_plantslib can come on by default
19:03 VanessaE hm
19:03 VanessaE ok do that then
19:03 VanessaE or better,
19:04 VanessaE you reading that option from minetest.conf?
19:04 zat the thing is that the user must define the correct biomes
19:04 zat I am adding it to the settings file of moretrees.
19:04 zat default_settings.txt I think
19:04 VanessaE oh ok
19:04 Jordach oh god
19:04 Jordach moretree size trees look like shit
19:05 zat greenish brown and smelly?
19:05 zat D:!!!!!!!!
19:05 VanessaE Jordach: you're just used to little bitty bush-sized default trees :P
19:05 * Jordach sniggers about bush
19:05 Jordach :3
19:06 Krock VanessaE, would it be possible for you to make a 3/4 version of the current hugesequoia?
19:06 Jordach just because it's small doesn't mean skilled / powerful ;)
19:07 Krock Cuz I don't liek that single tree's size  :3
19:08 rubenwardy bye all!
19:11 VanessaE Krock: use the "tiny trees" mod if you want that
19:11 VanessaE and sure, it's possible
19:11 VanessaE I think it's coded to just need to turn down the number of iterations for that tree model
19:12 zat that all should be C++... seriously
19:12 Krock VanessaE, hmm just changing that number? Thanks, I'll try that
19:12 VanessaE zat: what should be?
19:12 zat is there code to generate trees in the core?
19:12 zat VanessaE: every code to generate trees
19:12 VanessaE zat: yes.
19:12 VanessaE that's what L-systems does
19:13 VanessaE you supply a model, the core does the rest
19:13 zat why not use that for moretrees?
19:13 VanessaE I do.
19:13 zat uh lol
19:13 VanessaE moretrees just has a lot of code there to vary the models somewhat to keep them from being too repetitive.
19:13 zat I thought that moretrees calculated how to make grow the tree
19:13 asl i like that tree, plant a huge amount of it and logout, the next time i login, there would be a huge lag spike :P
19:13 VanessaE oh fuck no
19:14 VanessaE I use L-systems to grow them
19:14 zat if you mean minetest.spawn_tree, I saw that already
19:14 zat VanessaE: what I mean, is taking to the core the code that make the trees to be different
19:14 zat there should be a way to specify rules for a tree on hwo to grow
19:14 VanessaE oh, nah
19:14 VanessaE that code isn't slow at all
19:14 VanessaE we're talking microseconds to make those decisions
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19:15 Jordach hello Esteban
19:15 zat well it is true, the changes I have made to moretrees make it run super fast.
19:15 Esteban Hello
19:15 zat well, without plants lib, of course.
19:15 VanessaE zat: yes, because plants_lib has to evaluate the map
19:15 VanessaE mgv7 doesn't
19:19 zat yea lololol}
19:19 zat brb I will be back in HOURS!
19:19 zsoltisawesome lalal
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19:20 Mikerhinos hi
19:20 VanessaE hi
19:21 zsoltisawesome hi
19:21 zsoltisawesome (hi battle)
19:21 Mikerhinos <a zsoltisawesome appears !> lol
19:22 zsoltisawesome lol
19:23 zsoltisawesome A wild Mikerhinos appears!
19:24 zsoltisawesome And in the latest news: MinetestBot is a female kitten!
19:24 zsoltisawesome ^that can talk
19:24 Mikerhinos reminds me that I installed "Pokemon Online Simulator" a few days ago to play with my 8y son, and he just bust my *ss the few games that we played...dammit...I was so good at video games 20y ago ! lol
19:25 zsoltisawesome lol
19:25 Vazon VanessaE is there a mod that will conflict the moretrees not into generating, but lettingthe mod load?
19:26 zsoltisawesome NO! well, maybe
19:26 VanessaE Vazon: snow biomes mod apparently gets in the way now :(
19:26 asl you can just disable spawning instead of finding a mod that conflict with it
19:26 zsoltisawesome its so stable that it can stand on one of its hands! "Latest stable version is 0.4.9"
19:27 Jordach [20:24:32] <ecks> I've invented a new drinking game named after Oscar Pistorius. Every time someone visits the bathroom, you have to take four shots
19:27 Vazon .... well then
19:27 zsoltisawesome lol
19:28 Vazon well i wonder if i merge the ice growing into the default game and remove the rest of the snow mod, if that will help
19:31 CraigyDavi minetest_game is frozen to new features
19:31 zsoltisawesome why?
19:31 zsoltisawesome CraigyDavi!
19:31 Jordach because
19:31 Jordach the point of minetest is to make your own game from it
19:31 Vazon Craigy to my minetest game, not the github one
19:32 CraigyDavi zsoltisawesome, https://forum.minetest.net​/viewtopic.php?pid=138276
19:33 VanessaE Vazon: post in the snow biomes thread about it
19:34 VanessaE I wish I could remember who spotted that the other day
19:34 VanessaE zat, was it you?
19:34 Vazon wait, the snow mod by spizzard or the new one by somemone else?
19:34 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2290
19:34 VanessaE that one is the only one I know
19:34 VanessaE of
19:35 VanessaE other than paramat's snowdrift, which I know works fine
19:35 Vazon yea  that is the one i use
19:36 Vazon VanessaE: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9270
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19:37 zsoltisawesome anyone want a certain mod included in moontest?
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19:37 VanessaE there, I posted about it
19:37 VanessaE Vazon: wait, I was not aware of that mod?
19:38 Vazon ya its new, like a week old
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19:39 Vazon i havent tried it becuase i have altered my snow mod somuch and it seems to work fine till now.
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19:40 nman3600 hi
19:40 Vazon Hello nman
19:40 nman3600 i need ideas for a name of a modpack it's not really a mod pack but it has a load of items that i will be adding?
19:40 nman3600 i am turning my shears mod into it
19:40 zsoltisawesome nman3600: Multitest?
19:41 nman3600 great idea thanks
19:41 zsoltisawesome :D
19:41 zsoltisawesome no prob
19:42 VanessaE ah it was Zefram_Fysh who reported the problem
19:43 Vazon Well do you think that mod would help our problem Vanessa?
19:45 VanessaE pardon?
19:45 Vazon the snow mod problem with it cuasing the plant_lib to not fuction properly
19:45 VanessaE oh I dunno
19:45 VanessaE let's see what Splizard says first.
19:46 zsoltisawesome hmm
19:46 Vazon ok
19:46 zsoltisawesome I did git add .
19:46 zsoltisawesome and then git push
19:46 Vazon for now i just moved my snow mod else where
19:46 zsoltisawesome and it said everything was up to date
19:46 zsoltisawesome even tho it wasn't
19:47 zsoltisawesome ...
19:48 zsoltisawesome GAH
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19:55 nman3600 who wants a spoiler of my new mod/modpack thingy
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19:55 nman3600 anyone?
19:56 zsoltisawesome sure
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19:58 nman3600 i'll msg them to you zsolt
19:59 zsoltisawesome kk
19:59 VanessaE VanessaE: confirmed your snow mod issue locally.
20:00 zsoltisawesome lol
20:00 VanessaE can't fix it right now, I haven't the foggiest clue what the cause is
20:00 VanessaE fuck
20:00 VanessaE Vazon: ^^^^^^^
20:00 VanessaE tab complete FAIL
20:00 Vazon lol im working on it right now, bit by bit
20:02 Vazon VanessaE i just thought of something. Maby it isnt the snow mod
20:02 VanessaE it's the snow mod, I'm testing it now.
20:03 Vazon Im using a 0.4.7 version of the snow mod, and it must have worked back then. but it doesnt now
20:03 VanessaE I'm using git
20:03 Vazon .... hold on
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20:05 VanessaE Vazon: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=11&amp;t=2290&amp;p=142223#p142223
20:06 Vazon VanessaE isthere any way for me to get a older version of the plant_lib?
20:06 VanessaE git clone it and then git checkout some commit ID from the log
20:07 VanessaE but it isn't plants_lib that's the problm
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20:07 VanessaE it's the snow biomes mod
20:07 webdesigner97 Hi :)
20:07 VanessaE it's overriding the results of plants_lib's mapgen hools
20:07 VanessaE hooks
20:07 VanessaE hi webdesigner97
20:07 Vazon then why is my 0.4.7 version ofthe snow mod doing it?
20:08 Vazon since it was all redone do to 0.4.9 breaking the snow mod
20:08 webdesigner97 Just throwing this in: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=9316
20:08 VanessaE it has nothing to do with the minetest version
20:08 VanessaE nor plants_lib
20:08 VanessaE I think I know the issue
20:08 Vazon ok
20:11 * NekoGloop places a kitten in the general vicinity of VanessaE
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20:12 VanessaE meow.
20:12 Megaf Thisi s really cool http://fedora.org/#/-82/64/82/-4/0/0
20:12 * VanessaE pets the kitten and puts it in OldCoder's pile
20:12 Megaf http://fedora.org/#/-72/64/-640/-1/0/0
20:12 Megaf We should have a mapper like that
20:12 webdesigner97 WOT warns me about visiting this site
20:12 VanessaE Megaf: looks like onomotopaea
20:12 VanessaE or however it was spelled.  that minetest mapper that xyz was working on
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20:13 zsoltisawesome Hi!
20:13 OldCoder VanessaE, it is not a large pile; I attempt to place them in Kitten Care Facilities, remember. There are cushions, little mouse toys, and bowls of food and water.
20:13 * OldCoder is away on an errand for an hour
20:13 OldCoder
20:13 Jordach wait what
20:13 VanessaE except...those are minetest textures aren't they?
20:13 Jordach Megaf, why do fedora.org have MC
20:13 Megaf Jordach: nothing to do with Fedora Linux
20:14 Jordach easy mistake to make :D
20:14 Megaf That's how I got there
20:14 Megaf !tile
20:14 Megaf !title
20:14 MinetestBot Megaf: Minecraft Overviewer
20:15 Megaf Jordach: pretty impressive map
20:15 Megaf I wonder how could minetest have something like that
20:16 VanessaE Megaf: xyz's onomatopoeia mapper
20:16 VanessaE it did something very similar
20:16 VanessaE but it was never finished
20:16 VanessaE https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia\
20:16 VanessaE https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia
20:17 Megaf https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia
20:17 VanessaE double-ninja'd :)
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20:17 Noogah Hey sfan, the .sst files within map.db seem to be updating alright
20:19 SoniEx2 does minetest support pitch?
20:19 zsoltisawesome john_minetest: :( i'm the only one in #brohoof
20:19 Megaf http://minetest.web1337.net/map.php
20:19 Megaf pretty cool
20:20 Megaf VanessaE: :)
20:20 VanessaE Megaf: yep, that runs onomatopoeia
20:20 VanessaE old textures though
20:20 VanessaE (old version of the map too :P )
20:21 SoniEx2 as in playsound(somesound, <some number from 0.5 to 2.0>)
20:21 john_minetest Heh, zeg9's minetest server.
20:21 john_minetest Still exists iirc. But deserted.
20:23 VanessaE Vazon: my guess about snow vs. plants_lib is that snow probably uses voxelmanip, and probably runs after plants_lib does.  I was able to determine that plants_lib *does* run though.  anyway snow biomes is overwriting plants_lib's changes to the map.
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20:23 VanessaE that's why it doesn't work
20:23 VanessaE cheapie: I have a bone to pick with you ;)
20:24 cheapie ?
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20:24 SoniEx2 anyone? :/
20:24 cheapie Did I break something?
20:27 john_minetest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc
20:27 john_minetest lol
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20:28 Amaz !title
20:28 MinetestBot Amaz: Trolling Saruman - YouTube
20:28 jojo__ May I get the link for the IRC server
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20:29 Noogah What can you do with a map.db?
20:30 jojo__ I D k
20:30 Noogah I need to use this thing to get a usable map
20:33 Vazon ok
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20:35 Vazon VanessaE did you changethe growth time for saplings?? becaue it is taking way long then 10 sec to grow. its taking up wards of a few min for them to grow
20:37 jojo__ VanessaE I need the link
20:37 VanessaE Vazon: the mapgen-spawned saplings start growing in 10 seconds but they're ABM based so they'll grow sporadically
20:37 VanessaE jojo:  http://webchat.inchra.net/#minetest
20:37 SoniEx2 how do you play sounds?
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20:38 VanessaE SoniEx2:  https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1561
20:39 SoniEx2 VanessaE, and where's the documentation for parameters?
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20:40 Vazon ok
20:40 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L189
20:41 VanessaE no clue why the description of the parameters is so far-off-separated from the actual call
20:46 SoniEx2 no pitch ¬_¬
20:48 john_minetest I am a suspicious spider !  ¬¬¬¬___¬¬¬¬¬
20:52 * sfan5 goes to bed
20:52 zsoltisawesome sfan5: no wait!
20:52 sfan5 why?
20:53 zsoltisawesome does MinetestBot have !weather?
20:55 sfan5 no
20:55 * sfan5 goes to bed
20:56 zsoltisawesome anyone wanna see a large number?
20:57 microcarrot !c random.randint(1,1337) ** random.randint(1,1337)
20:57 MinetestBot 4361798344046150132208674202905339940102105772​4742550728048942212972311334325548446182648140​7725760739847767095847848949576537947485677839​7998378476712071313162316848083299787878911209​4416110016152443171952138840343231698669811211​3633064794444359879267088899252949018958798666​6664963067494975479056570743074118338883341103​6140666475068480036725469105778008283601308004​1948452656874331631886418779736677811087886509​122448907907354215267264289624672474637
20:57 microcarrot ^thats pretty big
21:01 * diemartin smells someone putting on his kicking boots
21:02 john_minetest http://player.vimeo.com/video/94842405?autoplay=1
21:03 Amaz !title
21:03 MinetestBot Amaz: Twenty Eight Feet: life on a little wooden boat from kevinAfraser on Vimeo
21:07 FreeFull !c 1337**1337
21:07 MinetestBot 4342016897902897469403500760137597113653058229​2572248772268958239349312973495339280465010810​9937507784602115080999945607625564989973095962​6201628661911635912097527563037559743102976878​2821311591718830567473961858225229669751087702​9763340753328891799605935699580879367236485059​9452893873882234257588004348835555320495962971​0868707434960989672589193686390268110475895238​8984784214788052776217596841386019773109528828​839050516611384739730758293428777459215
21:08 FreeFull microcarrot: What, your number is larger than mine
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21:23 Inocudom https://forum.minetest.net/viewtop​ic.php?p=142233#p142233-gsmanners put gsmapper on GitHub recently.
21:24 Noogah joined #minetest
21:25 Inocudom There is a vast number of names on the side. Why are they there if they never type anything here.
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21:28 CraigyDavi Not sure, some people have been away for a long time when doing a whois
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21:30 Inocudom http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/craigs-32-bi​t-windows-freeminer-builds.124/#post-1150-Look like a commit the devs of it made broke chunk loading.
21:30 Inocudom Or did it?
21:31 zat I wasnt VanessaE lol
21:31 CraigyDavi Inocudom, they are just loading slowly? Or not loading at all?
21:31 Inocudom They are loading slowly.
21:32 Inocudom Changes made in chunks load slowly too.
21:32 VanessaE Inocudom: speaking of broke,
21:32 VanessaE your link is broke I think
21:32 VanessaE or not, just scroll to the bottom
21:33 VanessaE zat: eh?
21:33 CraigyDavi Hmm just trying it out now, adn they seem to load slightly slower in my opinion
21:33 CraigyDavi Freeminer is soon to merge the next branch into master *i think*. That could fix things.
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21:34 zat VanessaE: you said that I could have been the one who spotted it but it wasn't me. D:
21:35 VanessaE oh, nope
21:35 VanessaE it was Zephram who did
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21:37 VanessaE anyways,
21:37 VanessaE plants_lib DOES run
21:37 VanessaE but snow mod's mapgen changes are overwriting it
21:37 VanessaE I think it uses voxelmanip and if it doesn't run first, it's gonna render plants_lib inert :(
21:40 Vazon yes the snow mod does use voxelmanip i was reading the files i found where it said that
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21:43 Inocudom Who here remembers this mod? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=8772
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21:51 zat Inocudom: I dont :D
21:51 zat sounds like moretrees
21:56 Inocudom Yes, but it also has its own type of caves and oil springs (and a custom mapgen.)
21:57 zat is it still alive?
21:58 john_minetest This was a triumph.
21:58 john_minetest I'm making a note here: "Huge success."
21:58 Inocudom I hope so. Try making a post in its topic and see what happens.
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22:05 Inocudom Hmm. No oil, but the mod does include a cluck and does generate ores in gravel. Its caves are an improvement too.
22:06 Inocudom Also has this very colorful breed of tree. You might want to look at this mapgen, VanessaE.
22:06 Inocudom And it has underground water springs (and lava, of course.)
22:06 VanessaE screenshot of said tree?
22:07 VanessaE (and please don't just randomly sign off this time :P )
22:08 Inocudom I don't see any screenshots of one. I will have to make one.
22:09 Inocudom One user known as minimus uploads his pictures as forum attachments and then displays them in his topics. I thought pictures couldn't be uploaded as attachments?
22:18 Inocudom Mimilus uploads his images like what is seen in the following post: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=141639#p141639
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22:22 VanessaE I think that was changed with the new forum software
22:22 VanessaE or he figured out the download URL for the image
22:22 VanessaE or both :)
22:23 VanessaE I guess as long as you can plug in a valid image URL between two [img][/img] tags, it'll work
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22:42 Inocudom Considering the lavender tree, it is actually a small bush.
22:42 Inocudom Has anyone here ever tried out Carbone and Minetest Plus?
22:42 Inocudom No server that I know of uses them at all.
22:42 zsoltisawesome I haven't _yet_
22:43 VanessaE if I had the resources, I might set up servers running Carbone and BFD
22:43 Inocudom They work in Freeminer too, by the way. Very good news for those that don't like flowing dirt/sand/gravel.
22:43 VanessaE not familiar with Minetest-Plus
22:44 zsoltisawesome Inocudom: flowing?
22:44 Inocudom Well, you just made a free-for-all server. You could have had it use Carbone or Minetest Plus.
22:44 Vazon how do you disable drowning in 0.4.9?
22:45 Inocudom Indeed zsoltisawesome. Indeed. In the default game for Freeminer, they flow like water.
22:45 VanessaE I wanted to keep it fairly basic, stick with what I know
22:46 Inocudom But, that feature is only in the default game. Use any other game type and they will not flow.
22:54 Exio4 flowing dirt/sand/gravel
22:54 Exio4 wtf
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23:03 zat “VanessaE: did you remember control for perlin regions, elevation, humidity, temperature, and nearness to water?”
23:03 zat ↑ how do I see that?
23:03 VanessaE you have to code it by hand.
23:03 VanessaE check how I did it in plants_lib
23:04 zat Can't I just set that on the biome options? (v7)
23:04 VanessaE probably
23:04 VanessaE but idk how those biomes work
23:05 VanessaE each of those probably has some mapgen-related biome control you can tap into in mgv7
23:06 zat they have heat_point and humidity_point in their settings, VanessaE.
23:07 VanessaE *shrug* try them and see what they do
23:07 zat lol yeah llololol
23:07 VanessaE nearness to water can probably be emulated by tapping into the same biome settings that govern how water is placed at all
23:08 VanessaE (just with more generous limits + always requiring dirt_with_grass to spawn on)
23:08 zat that is possible, I have seen it
23:09 zat you can say... generate only on dirt_with_grass and at max 5 blocks away from water
23:11 VanessaE yes, something like that
23:11 VanessaE I think some of moretrees will go up to 15 or 20 nodes from water though
23:11 VanessaE also don't forget palms grow on sand near water :)
23:13 zat yes thats the first thing I did, making palm grow on sand.
23:13 zat but must they  be near water?
23:14 zat or rather... how near?
23:14 VanessaE I think I have them set to be within 10m
23:15 VanessaE check the biome table, there's a text file in the moretrees dir
23:15 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/moret​rees/blob/master/tree_biomes.txt
23:35 microcarrot !tell Jordach WindHero has a question for you
23:35 MinetestBot microcarrot: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
23:36 WindHero and what question is that? :s
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23:46 Esteban Now I can chat :P
23:46 Esteban It couldnt connect for a while
23:47 Guest24058 Why did it changed my nick?
23:47 Guest24058 -.-' brb
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23:48 zsoltisawesome hi Guest
23:48 Guest24058 Its supposed to say Esteban -.-
23:48 Guest24058 Hi zsoltiawesome
23:48 zsoltisawesome ./nick Esteban
23:49 Guest24058 thanx
23:49 zsoltisawesome no prob
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23:49 Esteban97 close enough xD
23:49 Esteban97 thanks for the help!
23:50 WindHero if your name was forcefully changed
23:50 WindHero it means it's registered, and you need a password
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23:51 zsoltisawesome bye all
23:51 Esteban97 ohh, and how I set a password for this?
23:51 zsoltisawesome I am vacating IRC for a while
23:52 Exio4 who is this Esteban97
23:52 zsoltisawesome ./ns register <EMAIL> <PASSWORD> I think
23:52 WindHero ./ns help register
23:52 Esteban97 ok, brb
23:52 Esteban97 left #minetest
23:52 * WindHero headdesks
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23:54 Esteban97 back, thanks guys! I now realize already had that nick :P
23:54 Esteban97 Hopefully this wont happen again, so, hows everybody?
23:55 WindHero fine
23:55 WindHero trying to deal with a tough LVM problem
23:55 WindHero well,
23:55 WindHero now it's more ABM issues than LVM
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23:57 Esteban97 hi Noogah
23:57 Noogah Hey there!
23:57 Noogah Does anybody know how to view the contents of a world.db file?
23:58 Esteban97 a .db file? let me check
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