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00:13 Vazon Vanessa do you have time to help me yet?
00:18 VanessaE with what?
00:18 VanessaE I forgot :P
00:20 blaise Megaf: usually it's number of cores +1
00:20 blaise or in intel's case, virtual cores
00:21 Vazon D: no help at all, joking. But my player files arent saving but everthing else is
00:22 iqualfragile Megaf: really depends on your sheduler
00:22 iqualfragile if you are using bfs: exactly the number of cores you have
00:23 iqualfragile in other cases: if you are runnig some other processen (browser whatever) exactly the number of cores you have
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00:23 iqualfragile if not: cores+1
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00:25 VanessaE Vazon: I have no clue what the problem is there :(
00:25 VanessaE I can only assume a permissions issue
00:26 Vazon how a permissions issue?
00:26 Vazon permissions are keeped in the auth.txt not hte player files
00:26 VanessaE no, I mean if the folder is not owned by the username the server is running as, or if it doesn't have proper write permission
00:26 VanessaE e.g. filesystem-level stuff
00:26 VanessaE someone else suggested this before
00:27 Vazon ok
00:29 Vazon would having permissions that dont exist anymore cause that?
00:30 VanessaE no
00:30 VanessaE filesystem permissions don't work like that
00:30 VanessaE I mean file/dir ownership
00:31 Vazon ....
00:31 Vazon i will tell OldCoder and see if he understands becuase you just confused the heck out of me
00:34 VanessaE he'll understand *pokes OldCoder*
00:34 VanessaE every file and directory on your system is owned by someone.
00:34 VanessaE root/admin, or you, or him, or some other username
00:35 VanessaE all of my servers' files are owned by a user named "minetest" or by me
00:35 VanessaE if the username the server runs as is not the one who owns the files or the directory theyr
00:35 VanessaE they're in, the files can't be written.
00:37 Vazon ok so i think i got this, since they was orginaly created on my computer, they have my name even once moved to his, so everytime the server is started and they are read, it resets them to there original state?
00:37 VanessaE when the files were moved to oldcoder's server, the ownership was most likely changed to whatever he thought best.
00:38 VanessaE those ownership settings do not get changed again after that, normally.
00:38 OldCoder Hm?
00:38 OldCoder ownership games.user
00:38 Vazon then why do they keep reverting to when i gave them to him?
00:38 OldCoder or whatever is standard
00:38 VanessaE OldCoder: Vazon's player files are not being saved.
00:38 OldCoder games.users?
00:38 OldCoder We will need to investigate that
00:38 OldCoder But most worlds work fine
00:38 OldCoder It is presently
00:38 OldCoder a standard and highly generic server
00:38 Vazon yes but only the player files revert
00:38 OldCoder Well, formulate theories and tests
00:39 Vazon ya
00:42 OldCoder
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01:18 microcarrot ping!
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01:20 microcarrot gonna go check GH, back soon
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04:40 Megaf folks, question about mods
04:40 Megaf how to I make even brighter light sources?
04:40 Megaf what in minetest I have to change?
04:52 kaeza light level is 4 bits and is imposed by the map format AFAIK
04:53 kaeza that is, max light level is 15 (sunlight); to extend, you'd need to break the compat
04:53 zat light_source = LIGHT_MAX?
04:54 zat just took a look at a light registered in technic.
04:55 kaeza LIGHT_MAX is defined somewhere in default mod and is 14 (don't know the reason behind this tho')
04:56 zat so nothing is as bright as the sun
04:56 zat then lua wins again
04:56 zat :D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:03 RealBadAngel you cannot do anything with mods to change it
05:03 RealBadAngel 15 is sun, artificial ones 0-14
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05:06 zat RealBadAngel: what if I set 15 in a mod?
05:09 RealBadAngel nothing will happen
05:09 RealBadAngel 14 is max for node
05:10 zat nothing... means... will act like 14? will act like 1? will not iluminate at all?
05:15 RealBadAngel 14 i think
05:15 zat lool
05:16 zat goonight
05:16 Megaf hm
05:17 Megaf Thanks folks
05:17 Megaf and what about light radious?
05:17 Megaf radius
05:17 Megaf how do I define that?
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05:21 Megaf also, I have two mods that I want to convert to a modpack
05:21 Megaf how do I do that?
05:23 VanessaE make a new directory, move the mods into it, add an empty file named modpack.txt
05:23 VanessaE that's all.
05:23 VanessaE package up the whole thing and distribute it under whatever license the two mods are under.
05:23 Megaf sounds too easy
05:23 VanessaE it's that easy :)
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05:58 MegAFK Thanks VanessaE
05:58 MegAFK good night
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06:05 VanessaE night
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06:58 nman3600 hi
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08:45 BlockMen morning
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08:48 TenPlus1 Hi folks...
08:48 TenPlus1 does anyone know of a tool setting where I can dig up a dirt node with grass intact ???
08:53 VanessaE ok sleep is just overrated anyway.
08:53 * VanessaE wanders back in
08:54 TenPlus1 wb Vanessa
08:54 VanessaE TenPlus1: no, never heard of such a tool setting, but there are a couple mods that have that
08:54 TenPlus1 I'm checking out explorertools mod  incase it has anything handy I could use
08:54 VanessaE building_blocks I think has a fake grass that looks the same
08:55 TenPlus1 ethereal mod users want to be able to grow saplings from different biomes outside that biome, so I wanna make a silk touch shovel to dig up dirt with the grass still on it
09:00 VanessaE eh
09:02 VanessaE making a new tool to do that shouldn't be hard
09:02 VanessaE but calling it by a minecraft-alike name feels ...dirty
09:03 TenPlus1 am using silky-touch for now, any siggestions ?
09:03 TenPlus1 *suggestions
09:03 VanessaE not offhand
09:04 VanessaE gentle-dig?
09:04 VanessaE idk :P
09:04 TenPlus1 I'll make a normal shovel, but on right-click I'll stick in a function to pick up grass nodes...   Gentle touch ?
09:04 TenPlus1 sounds like a mills and boons sorta tool
09:04 TenPlus1 hmm
09:05 VanessaE gent-liftly? :)
09:05 TenPlus1 heh
09:05 VanessaE at 5 in the morning I am not exactly at my most creative :P
09:06 TenPlus1 that's ok... gotta work on the function 1st before naming it anyhoo...
09:06 TenPlus1 I could have made a special dirt block that everything grows on, but that's lazy...
09:07 VanessaE well a lot of the time, it's not a matter of "what can grow on this", but rather, "what can this grow on"
09:07 VanessaE that is, you'll more likely have to modify the various saplings, plants, etc. rather than the dirt.
09:08 TenPlus1 I tried keeping it more like the real world... certain saplings/trees would grow only in their own biomes and on that specific dirt
09:08 VanessaE I haven't looked at the code, but it depends on what specific node or group the growing ABM checks for
09:08 TenPlus1 yeah, I can easily change the abm to grow on anything...
09:08 TenPlus1 but I dont want to make it too easy for everyone...  hence the tool...  craft the tool, get the dirt, grow the sapling in your own backyard
09:11 VanessaE right
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09:42 TenPlus1 bye all
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10:26 VanessaE bbl
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10:42 Jordach longest post award
10:42 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=142044#p142044
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11:01 Jordach Jordan Snelling is a champion Lua coder who loves pushing code.
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11:22 reactor оПХБЕР!
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12:18 Megaf_ morning
12:20 Jordach morning
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12:34 Megaf How are thing?
12:34 Megaf things
12:39 Jordach goooooood
12:43 Megaf Heh, cool
12:43 Megaf yesterdey I made my first minetest mod :)
12:44 Jordach um
12:44 Jordach >Jordan Snelling is a champion Lua coder who loves pushing code.
12:44 Jordach the Open Source report card gave me that :)
12:44 Megaf heh
12:44 Megaf well, I find very fun to make mods
12:45 Megaf There is however only a small issue
12:45 Megaf my "cooking" recipe isnt working
12:48 Jordach my spidey senses are telling me you're doing it wrong
12:52 Megaf Jordach: http://paste.debian.net/100597/
12:54 Megaf I think there's some definitions missing
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12:56 whatever hi there
12:56 Megaf whatever
12:57 Guest25524 how
12:57 Guest25524 is there anybody here
12:57 Megaf yes...
12:57 Megaf type /nick YourNick
12:57 Megaf replace YourNick for your actual Nick
12:57 Megaf or name
12:57 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/100600/
12:58 Jordach try that
12:58 Guest25524 sorry
12:58 Guest25524 i don't understand what is that
12:59 Guest25524 i need to download it ?
12:59 Jordach Guest25524, talking to Megaf
12:59 Guest25524 het megaf
12:59 Megaf Guest25524: how can we help you? How did you end up here?
12:59 Guest25524 i wanna play minetest online
13:00 Guest25524 but i don't know how
13:00 Megaf Jordach: item2 is registered in another mod
13:00 Megaf I should register it there too?
13:00 Jordach Megaf, you can just remiove that
13:00 Jordach i put it there to make sure it worked
13:00 Guest25524 remove me ?
13:01 Megaf Guest25524: when we talk to you will be a Guest25524 at the begining of the line
13:01 Guest25524 oh, sorry. i'm rookie
13:02 Guest25524 mod_name1 = {}  minetest.register_craft({         type = "cooking",         output = "mod_name1:item1",         recipe = "mod_name2:item2", })  minetest.register_node(":mod_name2:item2", {         description = "Item 2",         tiles ={"item2.png"},         groups = {cracky=2},         drop = 'mod_name1:item1',         legacy_mineral = false,         sounds = default.node_sound_stone_defaults(), })  minetest.register_node("mo
13:02 Guest25524 uhm, so can u tell me what is this
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13:03 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: Why are you looking through code to play Minetest online? :x
13:05 Guest25524 i'. playing it, but i just cant play on server or client
13:05 Megaf SylvieLorxu: he just pasted the part of my mods code
13:05 SylvieLorxu Megaf: Ah...
13:05 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: Do you get any error message, or do you not know how to connect to a server?
13:06 Guest25524 i've just connected to a client and now it stucks at loading media
13:06 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: Loading media can take long
13:06 Guest25524 yeah, i'm waitin'
13:07 Guest25524 this is the 1st time i play a game like this
13:07 Guest25524 i really like it
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13:08 Guest25524 so in a server we can see other players , right ?
13:08 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: I need to redownload Minetest, want to play it once again as well. And yes, you can see other players and build together with them (if there are other players on that server)
13:09 Guest25524 oh, so there aren't so many people play this game ?
13:09 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: There are enough people, but there are like... 50 servers or so, so there are empty servers too
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13:10 Guest25524 oh, i see. can u tell me which server having the most players
13:11 Guest25524 .
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13:12 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: Minetest should tell you in the list. I can't tell you how it looks because it won't work for me now (I made a bad backup, and the files got damaged, so I'll have to redownload)
13:12 Guest25524 aw, loadin' media takes so long
13:13 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: Shouldn't take that long, weird. Have you tried another server?
13:14 Guest25524 i only see a list of clients, and at server menu i don't see any thing
13:14 crazyR does anyone know how i would allow the irc mod to watch out for !commands. https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc
13:14 Guest25524 except which i created
13:14 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: I think you need to click some "public" button or so
13:15 Guest25524 yeah
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13:15 Guest25524 i did but still nopthing
13:19 Guest25524 ahhhh
13:19 Guest25524 :(
13:19 Guest25524 why media takes so long
13:21 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: No clue :(
13:24 Guest25524 sorry, i did it
13:24 Guest25524 wow
13:25 Guest25524 how did they build this server
13:25 Guest25524 it's awsome
13:25 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: How do you mean?
13:25 reactor media always takes long
13:25 reactor especially if someone hosts it at home
13:25 SylvieLorxu reactor: Yeah, but that was like 20 minutes
13:26 reactor woah
13:26 reactor Restarting the game didn't help?
13:26 Guest25524 i have tried another server and it takes only 3 mins
13:26 reactor crazyR: edit the config
13:26 reactor there's something like "prefix"
13:26 Guest25524 thank u
13:27 pitriss reactor: you mean preload ?
13:27 Guest25524 hey, how to chat in a server
13:27 reactor pitriss: щhat?
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13:27 reactor Guest25524: the fastest way is from the menu
13:27 reactor if you want a LAN server
13:27 reactor If you want to run a permanent one, things get more complicated.
13:28 SylvieLorxu Guest25524: I think by pressing Enter
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13:28 pitriss [15:26:48] <reactor> there's something like "prefix" // you mean preload item textures? that thingy which makes loading media sooo long?
13:28 crazyR setting("string", "command_prefix") -- Prefix to use for bot commands <---
13:28 Guest25524 :", oh , tks
13:28 pitriss ah nevermind if that was for crazyR:)
13:28 Krock hello ppl
13:28 reactor pitriss: 19:14 < crazyR> does anyone know how i would allow the irc mod to watch out for !commands. https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc
13:29 reactor crazyR: yeah yeah
13:29 reactor that one
13:29 crazyR thanks
13:29 pitriss reactor: ah yes.. sorry then;)
13:29 reactor You're welcome, sir.
13:29 Megaf Guest25524: disble the preload item visuals option
13:29 reactor I wonder, how much FPS does it give?
13:29 reactor Is it worth leaving on at all?
13:30 Guest25524 how to do that megaf
13:30 reactor Guest25524: menu.
13:30 Megaf settings tab
13:30 Guest25524 i see
13:30 Guest25524 :)
13:31 Guest25524 tks
13:31 Megaf Jordach: Heres the mod2 init.lua
13:31 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/100606/
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13:32 Guest25524 aw, now i cant see those servers again
13:32 Krock upgrade cleint version?
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13:33 SylvieLorxu make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libz.so', needed by `bin/minetest'.  Stop. :(
13:33 Guest25524 hey every time i get into a server do i need to load its media again ?
13:33 Krock Windows for the win.
13:34 Krock Guest25524, depends on existing cache... mostly
13:34 Megaf Guest25524: part of it
13:34 SylvieLorxu Krock: Yeah, right. Compiling code is an absolute hell on Windows :P
13:34 Megaf Guest25524: first time will take a while, second time is likely to be faster
13:34 Krock SylvieLorxu, yeah. All good things need more work.
13:35 Guest25524 oh, it says that my client version may not compatiable
13:35 Guest25524 what that means
13:35 Krock Guest25524, upgrade
13:35 SylvieLorxu Krock: I hope you're not being for real
13:35 Jordach you are using an outdated client
13:35 Guest25524 how to update ?
13:35 Krock SylvieLorxu, what you mean?
13:36 Krock Guest25524, which platform?
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13:36 Guest25524 windows 7
13:36 SylvieLorxu Krock: Compiling on Windows is not a "good thing". Just compare: https://code.google.com/p/​vdrift-ogre/wiki/Compiling vs. https://code.google.com/p/vdrif​t-ogre/wiki/CompilingOnWindows
13:36 Krock Guest25524, grabbing link for yo..please wait
13:36 Guest25524 thk u so much
13:37 Krock Guest25524, https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=141851#p141851
13:37 SylvieLorxu And the Stunt Rally case isn't even too special
13:37 Krock SylvieLorxu, they make it useless long with endless installation exxplanations
13:40 Jordach yay
13:40 Jordach banned a spammer (this is a first time, as i've never really learned phpbb)
13:40 Megaf Jordach: can you find anything worng here? http://paste.debian.net/100606/ Thos are the two mods we made
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13:41 Jordach well, what are you trying to do exactly
13:42 Megaf Jordach: I'm trying to smelt Item1 from Item2
13:42 Megaf I can craft Item2 from default:stuff, it works fine
13:42 Megaf but I can't smelt Item1 from Item2
13:44 Guest43903 show me
13:44 Krock Megaf, looks like chinese (= difficult)
13:44 SylvieLorxu Okay, my download was just broken
13:44 SylvieLorxu Redownloaded and compiled perfecty
13:44 SylvieLorxu *perfectly
13:45 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/100613/
13:45 Jordach try that one
13:45 Jordach (redid it from scratch, just do it right)
13:45 Jordach also, comments are -- comment message here until newline
13:47 Megaf Jordach: well, I didnt know how to start from scratch so I copied and pasted from default/init.lua from minimal
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13:50 Guest43903 how hard
14:00 Krock ~ping
14:00 ShadowBot pong
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14:06 Megaf man, is such a pain to use windows
14:06 Megaf I can't even edit an unformated test properly
14:15 reactor Megaf: not only I, but I told you.
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14:18 zsoltisawesome am I the only hungarian minetest player on IRC? such disappoint
14:23 Megaf Jordach: well, I made a single mod with item1 and 2 based on your code and it worked
14:23 Megaf thanks
14:24 Megaf zsoltisawesome: I'm the only Brazilian here
14:24 Megaf And Brazil is not a small country
14:27 zsoltisawesome yeh
14:27 zsoltisawesome ^that statement is surprising
14:29 zsoltisawesome what the heck is "reverse video"?
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14:33 reactor zsoltisawesome: black on white
14:33 nman3600 hi
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14:33 reactor I always wanted to learn hungarian.
14:33 reactor s/hu/Hu/
14:34 nman3600 i've learnt a bit of hungarian at school
14:35 zsoltisawesome cool!
14:35 nman3600 i can introduce my self to you guys
14:35 reactor I've*
14:35 zsoltisawesome its a nice language
14:35 * sfan5 meows at reactor
14:36 nman3600 Hello a nevem nman3600 vagyok 10 éves.
14:36 nman3600 i think that's correct
14:36 zsoltisawesome close
14:36 * reactor raises an eyebrow at sfan5
14:36 nman3600 what did i get wrong
14:37 * sfan5 meows
14:37 sfan5 hi everyone
14:37 zsoltisawesome Hello a nevem nman3600, én 10 éves vagyok.
14:37 reactor Eyebrow out of range. Abort.
14:37 zsoltisawesome ^that is better, yours was undersandable
14:37 nman3600 ok but does that count the on i said?
14:38 CraigyDavi hi sfan5
14:38 zsoltisawesome nman3600: /msg me
14:39 reactor Hmm.
14:40 reactor The greeting word: Jó napot kívánok / Szervusz / Szia
14:40 reactor Halló?
14:40 reactor Oops.
14:40 zsoltisawesome lol
14:40 zsoltisawesome Szia!
14:40 reactor Well, last time I got it different cases require different one.
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14:41 zsoltisawesome reactor: Casually, most people use "Szia"
14:42 reactor yeah, must be equivalent to "hi"?
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14:42 zsoltisawesome yeah, also "bye"
14:43 reactor Like the German "tschus"?
14:44 Krock tschüss *
14:44 zsoltisawesome *tschüß
14:44 zsoltisawesome :P
14:45 Krock *tschüss Swiss grammar for the win
14:45 zsoltisawesome Krock: :P
14:46 zsoltisawesome reactor: I guess? idk XD
14:46 nman3600 lol hi Krock
14:46 Krock hi.
14:47 PenguinDad hmmm… I've never seen people using "tschüss" as a greeting
14:47 zsoltisawesome nor have I
14:47 Krock why greeting?
14:47 zsoltisawesome ^but then again, I don't live in a german country
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14:49 reactor zsoltisawesome: yep
14:50 reactor I know potatoes about German.
14:50 zsoltisawesome mmm, potatoes
14:51 nman3600 mmm tasty
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15:01 zsoltisawesome https://github.com/ManOfMinetest24/moontest
15:05 Krock http://i.imgur.com/M0gAcW9.png
15:05 zsoltisawesome what is that
15:06 Krock something made with MDN
15:06 Krock PDN
15:06 reactor The Moon has no atmosphere, but on screens, it looks like it does.
15:07 reactor Engine limitation?
15:08 SylvieLorxu moontest sounds fun, should check the licenses and try it once
15:09 reactor I'll test it once I have time.
15:09 zsoltisawesome SylvieLorxu: CC BY-SA 3.0, WTFPL, CC0
15:10 zsoltisawesome ^those are various elements
15:10 SylvieLorxu zsoltisawesome: I'm okay with all of those
15:10 zsoltisawesome nice
15:10 SylvieLorxu What am I supposed to expect? Walking over a moon?
15:10 reactor Not sure.
15:11 zsoltisawesome pretty much, you can explore caves
15:11 zsoltisawesome and find light ore
15:11 SylvieLorxu Moons have caves?
15:11 reactor Probably.
15:11 zsoltisawesome i figured they could
15:11 reactor Any planets could.
15:11 SylvieLorxu TIL!
15:11 reactor Depends on what happened.
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15:17 zsoltisawesome asie!
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15:28 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:29 reactor eHll overeoyen !
15:29 Krock hi
15:29 nman3600 hi
15:31 SylvieLorxu zsoltisawesome: "give_initial_stuff", "mapgen" and "sky" seem to be missing a license README, just so you know (it's so easy to forget that stuff when managing a project x3)
15:32 Krock http://i.imgur.com/GHLMk1U.jpg
15:32 nman3600 woah
15:33 zsoltisawesome is there a way for Lua to know what version of minetest you are running?
15:33 Krock nope.
15:34 zsoltisawesome SylvieLorxu: afaik they are all WTFPL, I will check with windhero to be sure
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15:38 Krock Idea for servers.minetest.net : add statistics
15:38 reactor As in?
15:39 nman3600 it's modding time woohoo
15:39 Krock Server uptimes, online players count, used mods
15:43 ^EOF joined #minetest
15:43 * whiskers75 krocks Krock
15:44 * Krock whiskies whiskers75
15:44 whiskers75 pls2slap Krock
15:44 * ^EOF slaps Krock around a bit with a rainbow trout!
15:44 Krock pls2slap whiskers75
15:44 Calinou s/trout/dash
15:44 * ^EOF slaps whiskers75 around a bit with a rainbow trout!
15:45 zsoltisawesome AHHHHHHHHHHH
15:45 Krock pls2help
15:45 ^EOF this is whiskers75's idea of a supybot. list for commands
15:45 whiskers75 pls2aka add pony action slaps $1 around a bit with a rainbow dash!
15:45 ^EOF whiskers75: Meow!
15:45 Krock pls2list
15:45 whiskers75 pls2pony Calinou
15:45 ^EOF Krock: Admin, Aka, Alias, Brainfuck, Channel, Conditional, Config, Filter, Format, Google, Insult, Later, Lolcat, MessageParser, Misc, Network, Owner, PluginDownloader, Reply, Seen, Status, Unix, User, and Utilities
15:45 * ^EOF slaps Calinou around a bit with a rainbow dash!
15:45 whiskers75 Krock: use PM for investigating the bot pls
15:45 Krock pls2status
15:45 ^EOF Krock: I am connected to freenode as ^EOF and pinet as ^EOF.
15:45 whiskers75 pls2lolify Oh my god, it's a Calinou!
15:45 ^EOF whiskers75: Oh mah god, itz a Calinou!
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15:46 whiskers75 pls2list utilities
15:46 ^EOF whiskers75: apply, countargs, echo, ignore, last, sample, shuffle, sort, and success
15:46 Krock pls2lolify that was not a funny sentence, seriously.
15:46 ^EOF Krock: that wz not a funny sentence, seriously.
15:47 zsoltisawesome pls2pony Krock
15:47 * ^EOF slaps Krock around a bit with a rainbow dash!
15:47 Krock pls2pony zsoltisawesome
15:47 * ^EOF slaps zsoltisawesome around a bit with a rainbow dash!
15:47 whiskers75 ^EOF: pls
15:47 ^EOF whiskers75: You are nothing but a full-gorged bag of malodorous bug.
15:47 SylvieLorxu zsoltisawesome: Moontest crashed for me, btw
15:47 whiskers75 pls2insult zsoltisawesome
15:47 ^EOF zsoltisawesome: You are nothing but a humid truck-load of festering dye.
15:48 zsoltisawesome what the hail!
15:48 Krock hungry
15:48 zsoltisawesome pls2insult Krock
15:48 whiskers75 …mp add "^(s/(.+)/(.*)/([gi]*))$" "echo What $nick meant to say was: [re \"$1\" [histsearch \"$2\" [cif [match i \"$4 \"] \"echo i\" \"utilities ignore\"]]]"
15:48 ^EOF Krock: You are nothing but a pignutted gob of droning craptacular.
15:48 ^EOF whiskers75: Error: "mp" is not a valid command.
15:48 whiskers75 …messageparser add "^(s/(.+)/(.*)/([gi]*))$" "echo What $nick meant to say was: [re \"$1\" [histsearch \"$2\" [cif [match i \"$4 \"] \"echo i\" \"utilities ignore\"]]]"
15:48 whiskers75 …aka add histsearch "last --from [echo $nick] --regexp \"/^(?!s\/).*$1.*/@1\" --in [echo $channel]"
15:48 ^EOF whiskers75: Meow!
15:48 ^EOF whiskers75: Meow!
15:49 whiskers75 meow
15:49 SylvieLorxu zsoltisawesome: https://www.refheap.com/155075a0079ad57474e547d93
15:49 * Krock tries to get not counte as botabuser or spammer
15:49 whiskers75 s/meow/purr
15:49 SylvieLorxu FWIW
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15:49 whiskers75 …config list supybot.abuse
15:49 ^EOF whiskers75: @flood
15:49 whiskers75 …config list supybot.abuse.flood
15:49 ^EOF whiskers75: @command and interval
15:49 whiskers75 …config list supybot.abuse.flood.command
15:49 ^EOF whiskers75: @invalid, maximum, and punishment
15:49 whiskers75 …config help supybot.abuse.flood.command.maximum
15:49 ^EOF whiskers75: Determines how many commands users are allowed per minute. If a user sends more than this many commands in any 60 second period, he or she will be ignored for supybot.abuse.flood.command.punishment seconds. (Current value: 12)
15:49 whiskers75 …config supybot.abuse.flood.command.maximum
15:49 ^EOF whiskers75: 12
15:49 SylvieLorxu (32 bit Trisquel Linux)
15:50 zsoltisawesome minetest version...?
15:50 whiskers75 s/supybot/kitten/
15:50 whiskers75 ಠ_ಠ
15:50 ^EOF whiskers75: Error: "re" is not a valid command.
15:50 Krock ShadowBot: /kick whiskers75 spam
15:50 twoelk zsoltisawesome:you can check for the protocol used to identify very old clients
15:50 whiskers75 …ignore add Krock
15:50 ^EOF whiskers75: Error: The command "ignore add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "ignore add".
15:50 whiskers75 …channel ignore add Krock
15:50 Krock :P
15:51 ^EOF whiskers75: Meow!
15:51 whiskers75 no moar spam!
15:51 whiskers75 you can test it on irc.kittenco.in #pinet, or ##whiskers75 here
15:51 whiskers75 …channel ignore del Krock
15:51 ^EOF whiskers75: Error: 'supybot.ignore' is not a valid configuration variable.
15:51 Krock you can test my bot whenever you want
15:51 Krock at #nether or #never
15:52 zsoltisawesome mine at ##pinpong
15:52 zsoltisawesome *##pingpong
15:53 Krock mine also at #club_of_lonely_people
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15:58 PilzAdam "Thanks for these information but i need a strong account on these server so that i can download some game and could not created any query. thanks"
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15:58 RealBadAngel anybody wanna try item_tweaks mod?
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15:58 PilzAdam let the man download some game pls
15:58 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam
15:58 Krock RealBadAngel, what does it add?
15:58 zsoltisawesome RealBadAngel: NO... well, maybe
15:59 RealBadAngel this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnwk5XZ6DQE
15:59 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/item_tweaks
16:00 zsoltisawesome ^"this: [replace with something I can't go to]"
16:00 Megaf ~up minetest.megaf.info 30003
16:00 ShadowBot Megaf: minetest.megaf.info port 30003 is down
16:00 Megaf what?
16:02 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/100643/
16:03 proller__ lol
16:03 Megaf proller__; minetest fault again?
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16:04 reactor ~up mike402.no-ip.biz 5000
16:04 ShadowBot reactor: mike402.no-ip.biz port 5000 is down
16:04 reactor ~up mike402.no-ip.biz 50000
16:04 ShadowBot reactor: mike402.no-ip.biz port 50000 is up (280ms)
16:04 reactor Butterfingers.
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16:05 proller__ Megaf, one of hundreds places. you must suffer.
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16:21 RealBadAngel anybody tried item_tweaks?
16:22 Krock ding now
16:22 Krock +o
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16:26 Krock RealBadAngel, very nice. It stacks drops :)
16:27 RealBadAngel also try to drop tools on the ground
16:27 Krock = items :D
16:27 Krock also it grows when it catches more items :D
16:27 RealBadAngel kaeza wrote code to drop single items, just hold shift when dropping
16:28 rubenwardy Hi all!
16:28 Krock ik
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16:28 Krock hi rubenwardy
16:28 Krock RealBadAngel: "removedAlreadyDammit[object]" ehm okay xD
16:29 RealBadAngel thats cy's/PA code to be further modified
16:29 RealBadAngel both versions of item_drop are quite annoying
16:29 RealBadAngel for example its almost impossible to throw anything away ;)
16:30 reactor Is there still no way to orient blocks around axes other than y in WE?
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16:40 Krock RealBadAngel, I like that mod, but what's the license?
16:40 RealBadAngel wtfpl
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16:42 Krock k thx
16:46 rubenwardy Can a moderator close this topic, and possibily delete the comments? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=3829
16:46 rubenwardy !title
16:46 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Frequently Asked Questions] - Read before asking for help! - Minetest Forums
16:47 Krock why close?
16:48 rubenwardy Because people are using it to ask questions
16:49 Krock Add those questions and redirect wrong ones to the best place
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17:00 blaise close what?
17:02 rubenwardy topicf
17:02 Calinou the FAQ topic
17:03 rubenwardy Is it possible to add stickies that are just links?
17:03 rubenwardy That would be ideal
17:03 Calinou no
17:03 Calinou but you could write the link in big and lock the topic :P
17:12 CraigyDavi Hi all
17:12 Krock hi
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17:36 zat Can I use the contents of a we file for the schematics of a decoration?
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17:38 Amaz zat: No. I think it has to be a .mts file. (Minetest Schemetic)
17:39 markveidemanis Hi!
17:39 zat Amaz: and how do I author a mts file?
17:40 zsoltisawesome I walk to the sound of my own drum
17:40 zsoltisawesome Read more: Fitz & The Tantrums - The Walker Lyrics | MetroLyrics
17:40 zsoltisawesome derp
17:41 * blaise feeds zsoltisawesome a botsnack
17:41 Amaz Using worldedit, select the region you want saving, and type //mtschemcreate file_name
17:41 PenguinDad zat: look at the mg mod for we schematics
17:42 blaise we schematics?
17:42 blaise as in "a wee bit o rum" ?
17:42 PenguinDad blaise: worldedit
17:43 blaise what mod is that a part of?
17:43 blaise technik?
17:43 blaise mesecons?
17:43 blaise oh wait, I know.. inventory plus
17:43 PenguinDad !g WorldEdit site:forum.minetest.net
17:43 MinetestBot PenguinDad: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=572
17:44 PenguinDad ^ blaise
17:44 * blaise throws a carrot cake at PenguinDad
17:44 zat //mtschemcreate <file>
17:44 zat I tried to schematic = dofile("file.we")
17:44 zat ...didnt work.
17:44 * PenguinDad would prefer a muffin
17:45 * blaise builds a fully automated carrot muffin gun and opens fire on PenguinDad
17:45 Artemis3 do you happen to know if there is a nice repo somewhere for debian wheezy minetest clients?
17:45 zsoltisawesome lol
17:46 blaise I'm afriad I dont personally colndoln rap artists.. so I can't help you with anything containing the word wheezy
17:47 blaise neither can I with fifty cent, birdman, or any other nonsence of the like.
17:48 PenguinDad wheezy is actually from toy story :D
17:48 blaise eh?
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17:48 blaise !g Toy Story
17:48 MinetestBot blaise: http://toystory.disney.com/
17:48 blaise oh, I suppose I should also note that I don't condoln mainstream media
17:49 Artemis3 is a debian thing to codename their releases after toy story chars
17:49 blaise Artemis3: that is very unfortunet.
17:49 Artemis3 but ok, debian stable 7.5 current is wheezy
17:49 Artemis3 the client in the stable repo is 3.1
17:49 blaise I would prefer not to take life as a joke..
17:49 Artemis3 not quite good
17:49 Amaz zat: This is the decoration code: https://gist.github.com/Amaz1/54ad76374316e98660fa
17:50 blaise Artemis3: minetest-0.3.1 ?
17:50 Artemis3 yes
17:50 blaise Artemis3: have you considered contributing to their repo yourself?
17:50 blaise Artemis3: or asking the project maintainer to bump it up ?
17:50 Artemis3 https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/minetest
17:51 Artemis3 its already done, but those things take time
17:51 blaise unfortunetly we have no control over what distro maintainers do with their repostitory
17:51 Artemis3 in the meantime, some soul could setup their own repository compiled for stable (ie wheezy).
17:51 blaise I have alien installed, so I could create a pkg for you..
17:51 blaise I think
17:52 Artemis3 don't worry, i was only wondering if someone had set up a repository
17:52 blaise Artemis3: i386, i686, amd64 ?
17:52 Artemis3 its ok
17:52 blaise you sure bro?
17:53 Artemis3 i also have some ubuntu machines so im using the one from ppa
17:53 * blaise cringes
17:53 Artemis3 which is 4.9
17:53 * blaise vomits in his mouth
17:54 blaise why the newbuntew?
17:54 Artemis3 debian jeesie also has 4.9
17:54 blaise why ?
17:54 Artemis3 simply canonical provides ppas
17:54 blaise what is ppassery?
17:54 Artemis3 so any random user can upload sources and it gets compiled and packaged neatly
17:55 blaise lame
17:55 dsimon blaise: "condone"
17:55 Artemis3 people then add those repos and can use said packages
17:55 blaise dsimon: no thanks, I don't need protection..
17:55 Artemis3 the other way is setting a proper repository, which is more common for debian packages out of the official ones
17:56 Artemis3 unless you want to try forcing testing package into stable, or such
17:56 Artemis3 but i don't want to figure out the dependencies etc.
17:56 blaise I use source based distro's
17:56 Artemis3 thats also possible, i could get all those -dev packages and try start compiling, but say not userfriendly for others
17:56 blaise If I want a package that insn't available, I make it happen.
17:56 Megaf Artemis3: a new minetest version is comming on Debian Jessey
17:57 Artemis3 yes
17:57 Megaf https://packages.debian.or​g/search?keywords=minetest
17:57 blaise I don't have to worry about what some group of wizearses are doing
17:57 Calinou 0.4.9, not 4.9!
17:57 Artemis3 but often you can't force the testing packages into stable
17:57 Artemis3 i tend to ignore those zeros :)
17:58 PenguinDad I'm not sure if minetest will ever reach 4.9
17:58 blaise Artemis3: actually, since I don't run that bunteww crap, I can do what ever I want.
17:58 Artemis3 well running ubuntu doesn't stop you from compiling either
17:58 Artemis3 like debian, you just install the dev packages and compile, but not everyone is going to do that
17:58 blaise yeah, but if you install crap without using their stuff you tend to break their stuff
17:59 Artemis3 something like minetest is not a problem
17:59 SylvieLorxu cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
17:59 SylvieLorxu Done.
17:59 Artemis3 i don't quite like their kernels tho
17:59 Artemis3 heavily patched
18:00 Artemis3 well a 3rd option is switching to testing and use that 0.4.9 package properly
18:01 Artemis3 but its not elegant to do that for a game
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18:01 Artemis3 many people prefer using stable or if at least the package was backported, but i suppose that means begging someone
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18:02 Artemis3 which they usually won't, and simply point to the testing version already in place. i guess next year when jessie becomes stable, and only if minetest upstream didn't update
18:02 Artemis3 and the process repeats again
18:03 Artemis3 unless some kind soul do set up a repository for debian stable current minetest clients.
18:06 rubenwardy How to create a world without opening the minetest executable?
18:06 Krock CLI?
18:06 rubenwardy From a C++ program
18:06 Krock just mkdir
18:06 rubenwardy I have access to the file system, and to command lines
18:06 Krock and add file map_meta.txt
18:06 rubenwardy Is it that simple?
18:07 zat and a world.mt
18:07 Krock rubenwardy, just create a new world and see what it generates in the forlders before generating
18:07 zat the world isn't more than those files, the actual map is generated on the fly by the game, on demand.
18:07 rubenwardy just world.mt
18:07 zat right?
18:08 Amaz And I think that has to have the game id in it.
18:08 Krock mkdir myworld
18:08 Krock echo gameid = minetest\nbackend = sqlite3\n >myworld\world.mt
18:09 zat rubenwardy: Krock's method +1
18:09 zat though leveldb rlz more
18:09 PenguinDad s/echo/echo -e/
18:09 Krock why a backend? use dummy
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18:10 zat yes, the -e
18:11 Krock https://gist.github.com/Smal​lJoker/1bd3d07c50a6cd8e6820
18:11 rubenwardy works, thanks
18:11 Krock my version of item_drop
18:13 rubenwardy works: https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/a9606b4f95321cd730c7
18:14 Krock rubenwardy, +1 for the *.exe
18:14 rubenwardy what .exe?
18:15 Krock "est/bin/minetest.exe -"
18:15 rubenwardy Forgot that in the linux conversion
18:18 Krock rubenwardy, http://i.imgur.com/GHLMk1U.jpg U liek?
18:18 Krock my new wallpaper
18:18 rubenwardy pretty awesome
18:18 Krock :)
18:18 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for interlaced polarized 3d screens 09970b7b6d 2014-05-18T01:08:13+02:00 http://git.io/yDq-zA
18:18 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Split declaration of GenericCAO from implementation d9f6f9e7a8 2014-05-17T23:19:31+02:00 http://git.io/GJSEWw
18:19 Krock eh.
18:20 Amaz I like it!
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18:25 zat http://uppix.com/f-1557736_1​4749758537a4cae001677ee.jpg
18:26 loopiboy :D
18:26 whiskers75 sfan5: MEOW
18:26 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
18:26 whiskers75 sfan5: I got a new IP!
18:26 whiskers75 \o/
18:27 whiskers75 sfan5: also, my pie is now my wifi router
18:27 sfan5 whiskers75: that's nice
18:27 Krock wow... amazing..a new IP
18:27 zat lel
18:27 whiskers75 Krock: it's a relief after years of ddos and it NOT CHANGING
18:27 zat whiskers75: http://uppix.com/f-1557736_1​4749758537a4cae001677ee.jpg
18:27 whiskers75 you need to add a new MAC address for it to change
18:28 Krock whiskers75, are you runnung a part of PayPal over the IP or how come those DDOS?
18:28 Krock *running
18:28 whiskers75 Krock: well, many people like to DDoS me
18:28 zat ab or siege :D
18:28 Krock I can understand that somehow
18:29 whiskers75 unfortunately, your IP wil not change as long as you're running the same hardware with the same MAC address
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18:29 whiskers75 in virginmedialand
18:29 whiskers75 so I went and got ufw
18:29 whiskers75 and put the router in modem mode
18:29 whiskers75 and made my pie do the work
18:29 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
18:29 * whiskers75 meows elatedly
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18:31 whiskers75 :D
18:31 Megaf <whiskers75> Krock: it's a relief after years of ddos and it NOT CHANGING
18:31 Megaf That's my fear about fixed IP
18:31 zat whiskers75: wasnt the option to change Mac available?
18:31 werwerwer_ anybody tried to compile minetest with clang?
18:32 whiskers75 zat: no
18:32 whiskers75 zat: it's a crappy superhub
18:32 whiskers75 Megaf: in virginland, your ips are 'sticky'
18:34 zat D:
18:34 PenguinDad werwerwer_: compiling with clang works flawlessy here
18:34 werwerwer_ PenguinDad: oh, thanks
18:34 Megaf I'm installing clang here right now
18:35 Megaf last time I checked it was much faster than gcc to compile the linux kernel
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18:36 Megaf PenguinDad: How do you compile minetest using clang?
18:38 * Jordach 's tablet has been active for 255 hours
18:38 PenguinDad Megaf: -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=$(which clang) -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=$(which clang++)
18:39 PilzAdam Megaf, clang is faster but the binaries are slower
18:40 Megaf Jordach: That's a cool number
18:40 rubenwardy "minetest --go --worldname world_name" does not work correctly. It comes up saying wrong password, even though there is no password and it should be singleplayer.
18:41 rubenwardy "--name plr1 --pass pass" works, but I don't get why I need to do that
18:41 PenguinDad Jordach: only one hour more and you get an overflow ;)
18:41 Jordach PenguinDad, android
18:42 rubenwardy *--password
18:42 PilzAdam rubenwardy, works for me
18:42 rubenwardy ok
18:42 rubenwardy weird
18:42 Megaf PilzAdam: Are they? So, is there a compiler that make faster binaries then gcc does?
18:43 rubenwardy I might be how I created the world
18:43 PilzAdam Megaf, I only know that gcc is better than clang
18:43 PilzAdam and I know that MSVC is shit
18:43 Megaf Compiling time? clang++ 1m5.766s  vs 1m57.439s gcc
18:44 rubenwardy It also opens the wrong world
18:44 PenguinDad gcc is faster at the moment™
18:44 Megaf so clang is 50 seconds faster than gcc here
18:44 Megaf werwerwer_: and it worksd
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18:45 werwerwer_ wikipedia says as of the middle of 2012, runtime performance has improved to the point where GCC wins some benchmarks and Clang others.
18:45 Calinou Clang has globally more run-time problems
18:46 Calinou (in Minetest, day-night cycle used to be too fast :-D)
18:46 PenguinDad I never noticed this :/
18:46 Jordach someone on the mood for boosting the speed of minetest.net ?
18:46 Jordach https://developers.google.com/spee​d/pagespeed/insights/?url=http%3A%​2F%2Fminetest.net&amp;tab=desktop
18:47 Calinou PenguinDad, old bug
18:47 Calinou more than 1.5 year old
18:48 Calinou interesting, Jordach
18:48 Calinou very nice, that page generates previews
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18:49 Calinou https://developers.google.com/speed​/pagespeed/insights/?url=google.com
18:49 Calinou lol
18:50 rubenwardy Any reason why "minetest.exe --go --worldname nbe_test --name player1 --password pass"
18:50 rubenwardy would open up a map called "awd"
18:50 rubenwardy awd is the first map listed alphabetically
18:55 rubenwardy It works if nbe_test is the only folder in worlds
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18:56 whiskers75 sfan5: btw, connect to pinet @ kzaeeijjvts4uhtj.onion
18:56 sfan5 I don't have tor running
18:56 whiskers75 then put it on your pie and get it running
18:57 whiskers75 I'm not wasting away this new IP of mine :P
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18:59 Megaf [15:49:06] <Calinou> https://developers.google.com/speed​/pagespeed/insights/?url=google.com
18:59 Megaf [15:52:03] <-- Calinou (~Calinou@unaffiliated/calinou) saiu (Google closed his connection)
18:59 Megaf :)
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19:04 whiskers75 sfan5: pls
19:04 sfan5 no
19:05 whiskers75 sfan5: wait
19:05 whiskers75 sfan5: idea idea idea
19:05 whiskers75 sfan5: make gateway server, link
19:05 Krock Bug or feature? One player always has lag at 10s, and if that one times out, it seems like the lag searchs an other guy.
19:05 whiskers75 lol
19:05 whiskers75 THE LAG WILL GET YOU, Krock
19:05 Krock It just got me..
19:05 sfan5 whiskers75: nah
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19:07 nman3600 hi
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19:07 hoodedice Hello miners
19:08 whiskers75 sfan5: screw this
19:08 whiskers75 sfan5: irc.kittenco.in works now
19:08 sfan5 \o/
19:08 hoodedice sfan, how is '.' exactly used in lua?
19:09 hoodedice as in, 'minetest.whatever'
19:09 sfan5 hoodedice: foo["bar"] is the same as foo.bar
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19:09 Mikerhinos hi
19:09 nman3600 hey hoodedice i'm a huge fan of your work :)
19:09 hoodedice foo is the name of the table, and bar is the value?
19:09 sfan5 no
19:09 hoodedice nman, I have no work.
19:09 sfan5 bar is the key
19:09 hoodedice I detect the sarcasm
19:10 nman3600 no sarcasm
19:10 hoodedice Ah, yes, key; I did not have a name for that
19:10 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/71yxiph8QSLb.png </hell>
19:10 hoodedice nman, what work?
19:10 sfan5 foo["bar"] = "meow" | foo is table, bar is key, meow is value
19:10 hoodedice Thanks sfan
19:10 hoodedice > 1.6 MB/s
19:11 Jordach that'll drop to 10KB/s when it gets to copying BFD
19:11 nman3600 hoodedice just nevermind
19:11 hoodedice no, really
19:11 hoodedice what work?
19:11 hoodedice Look at thishttps://gist.github.com/BlackBulletIV/1196228
19:11 hoodedice sorry, https://gist.github.com/BlackBulletIV/1196228
19:12 Jordach fail :)
19:12 hoodedice He calls a table, which calls a key, which is actually a call for another table, which returns a boolean
19:12 whiskers75 sfan5: rejoin
19:12 hoodedice "if rect.dragging.active then"
19:14 hoodedice ^lel
19:18 Jordach hoodedice, i wasn't lying either
19:18 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/M5-1x4u_4Z8d.png
19:19 Krock Jordach, player data takes more time than map.sqlite (expecting a minetest world to copy)
19:20 hoodedice Jd, oh dear =/
19:20 hoodedice Say, can two different tables have keys with the same callname?
19:20 hoodedice eg; tablea = { x = true} , tableb = {x = false},
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19:21 SylvieLorxu Yes
19:21 hoodedice Thanks
19:21 hoodedice Lurker.
19:21 hoodedice XD
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19:26 Mikerhinos I am on Linux and have a soft RAID-0 SSDs 2x80Go and a HDD 500Go, anyone knows if it's possible to have system and apps on RAID-0 partition and settings + personnal files (RAW images, movies, backups) on HDD ?
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19:34 nman3600 hello who is in the mood for making me one texture?
19:35 nman3600 hi btw
19:35 nman3600 please?
19:35 CraigyDavi What texture?
19:35 nman3600 a grip for my shears mod
19:35 nman3600 i've been trying but it turns out really bad
19:36 nman3600 i'll give you credit if needed
19:36 CraigyDavi So like a grip handle for a tool?
19:37 nman3600 yes
19:37 nman3600 that's exactly what i need done
19:37 nman3600 thanks
19:37 Megaf sfan5: are you there?
19:37 sfan5 yes
19:38 Megaf That was quick, good cat
19:38 Megaf sfan5: can you give me a link of that build script you made?
19:38 sfan5 build script for what?
19:39 Megaf to build minetest for windows
19:39 sfan5 I guess I can
19:39 sfan5 64bit or 32bit?
19:39 Megaf 32
19:42 sfan5 Megaf: currently uploading
19:43 nman3600 wait sfan is it a new build?
19:43 sfan5 new build for what?
19:43 sfan5 uh.. no
19:43 nman3600 ok
19:44 Megaf sfan5: I guess I saw it somewhere sometime
19:44 nman3600 i was just wondering i'm happy when new builds are released they're so fun to play on
19:44 Megaf nman3600: you play on Linux or Linux or Mac or Windows or Linux?
19:44 nman3600 windows
19:45 Megaf 32 bit or dont know or 32 bit or 64 bit?
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19:45 nman3600 i use 32 bit when my computer is 64
19:45 nman3600 becuase i get loads of crashes on 64 bit and it doesn't work
19:45 Megaf ok
19:45 * Megaf is thinking in providing daly builds of minetest for windows
19:45 nman3600 cool idea
19:46 sfan5 Megaf: uhh
19:46 nman3600 yeah i use minetst 32 bit on a windows 64 bit computer
19:46 sfan5 Megaf: there are already many people who do that
19:46 nman3600 wait daily?
19:46 Megaf Yep, none of the build work properly or are built as Id like them to be built
19:47 Megaf s/buid/builds
19:47 CraigyDavi nman3600, can this pass off as a grip: https://mediacru.sh/d8uoJx1qXtCr.png
19:47 nman3600 hmm? CraigyDavi yes it will do
19:47 sfan5 Megaf: how do you want to have then built?
19:48 Megaf lightweight and with not bloatwhere, like several games I'm not going to play
19:48 sfan5 then just remove then
19:48 sfan5 them*
19:48 Megaf s/not/no
19:48 sfan5 also bloatware is something else
19:48 Megaf sfan5: or just build them myself as I find better
19:49 Megaf bloatgameware
19:49 nman3600 CraigyDavi how are you going to send it to me?
19:49 sfan5 Megaf: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3​0267315/Minetest/buildscript_mt32.7z
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19:51 Megaf Thanks a million
19:51 CraigyDavi nman3600, http://i.imgur.com/oYTtaf3.png
19:52 webdesigner97 hi
19:52 nman3600 thanks alot!
19:52 nman3600 hi
19:52 webdesigner97 Question on: https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1826 : What do devs call "wraps around pretty randomly as of now"?
19:53 webdesigner97 Is it usable or not?
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19:54 BlockMen webdesigner97, jein ;)
19:55 Megaf sfan5: do you mind if I change it and make it public?
19:55 sfan5 Megaf: what do you mean with make public?
19:56 Megaf nah, nevermind
19:56 webdesigner97 @BlockMen: Grr...
19:57 webdesigner97 @all: Will this ever be fixed?
19:57 nman3600 ?
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20:01 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
20:02 nman3600 @all how should rubber be made in my mod?
20:03 VanessaE it shouldn't.
20:03 VanessaE there's already a mod that provides rubber.
20:03 VanessaE technic
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20:03 VanessaE (it uses a tree tap to extract it from rubber trees)
20:03 nman3600 but i want to add rubber to make grip for shears
20:04 * BlockMen doesnt know this @all
20:04 VanessaE well in technic, rubber is derived from rubber trees, which are provided by my moretrees mod
20:04 Megaf VanessaE: I'm working on a mod to make nodes from gravel, is there a mod that already does that?
20:04 BlockMen who is he
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20:04 VanessaE so you could depend on that if you wanted to do it right.
20:04 VanessaE Megaf: that doesn't entirely make sense
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20:07 Esteban What is the channel used to talk with people in servers? I lost the adress...
20:07 Megaf Hi Esteban
20:08 Esteban Hi Megaf! how are you?
20:08 nman3600 hey Esteban
20:08 Megaf I'm great, it's been a long time
20:08 Megaf How are you doing?
20:09 Esteban Fine, in order to save internet, I wont connect toserver anytime soon...
20:09 Esteban Hi nman3600!
20:09 Megaf what do you mean? Why would you save internet?
20:10 Esteban I have a very limited internet plan now
20:10 Megaf I see
20:11 Megaf so you should play on my minimal server :P
20:12 Esteban nice, what is the adress? It takes time to load public servers -.-
20:12 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001
20:12 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (591ms)
20:12 Megaf Esteban: its a creative server, for pixel art and other creative things
20:12 Megaf its based on minetest minimal
20:13 Megaf so small textures, not a lot of items and media
20:13 nman3600 Megaf can i join i am really good at pixel art
20:13 Megaf nman3600: please do join
20:13 nman3600 ok
20:13 Megaf unfortunetaly I can't join myself now, so you will have to build a little far from spawn
20:13 Megaf nman3600: Esteban: do you know how to use the areas mod?
20:14 nman3600 never hear of it do you mean a claim mod?
20:14 Megaf like
20:14 nman3600 is it this one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239
20:14 Megaf nman3600: you set two corners of your area, then protect
20:14 nman3600 oh yeah
20:14 nman3600 i might know how to use that
20:14 Megaf nman3600: that one
20:15 nman3600 k
20:15 Esteban Not much. I only used it with the GUI (the one with markers)
20:15 Megaf nman3600: Esteban: stand on the front, botton, right corner, then type /area_pos1
20:15 Megaf nman3600: Esteban: then stand on the back, top, left corner, then type /area_pos2
20:15 nman3600 oh i get it yes
20:15 Megaf nman3600: Esteban: then type /protect Area Name
20:16 nman3600 unfortunately i can't join either
20:16 nman3600 is the port just default?
20:16 Esteban Im on the server! Nice pixel art at spawn :D
20:16 Megaf nman3600: minetest.megaf.info port 30001
20:17 Megaf Esteban: Jessch8281 made the big one, you might remeber her from my old server
20:17 Megaf big ones
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20:17 nman3600 i'm unable to join D:
20:17 john_minetest Hello everypony
20:17 nman3600 Hey brony pony
20:17 nman3600 are you a brony?
20:17 Megaf nman3600: is it full?
20:18 nman3600 just won't load
20:18 Megaf nman3600: try unmarking preload item visuals
20:18 Esteban Only  players at the moment :P
20:18 Esteban five*
20:18 nman3600 too many users
20:19 Megaf Esteban: max is 6
20:19 Megaf so 5 = full
20:19 nman3600 john_minetest are you a brony?
20:19 Esteban Ohh
20:19 Megaf since theres a room reserved for admin
20:19 nman3600 I really want to play on it
20:20 Megaf nman3600: I will restart it, hold on
20:20 nman3600 k tell me when it's fully restarted
20:20 Megaf Esteban: I'm restarting it, ok?
20:20 Esteban ok!
20:21 VanessaE Esteban: you asked about "the server channel"..  maybe you mean this?  http://webchat.inchra.net/#minetest
20:21 john_minetest nman3600: No, I am no brony.
20:21 Megaf Esteban: nman3600: join now before is full again!
20:21 Esteban Joined!
20:21 john_minetest nman3600: But somebody said that I should greet everybody like this because "hello everybody" was taken ;)
20:22 Esteban Go nman3600!
20:22 VanessaE hey john
20:22 nman3600 i am trying esteban
20:22 Esteban Hi VanesaE!
20:22 nman3600 john_minetest i am a brony so :)
20:22 nman3600 item definitions won't load D:
20:22 Esteban brb!
20:23 * Esteban runs for the power cabble!
20:23 Esteban cable*
20:23 Megaf nman3600: you should unchel preload items visuals
20:23 nman3600 media is loading
20:23 john_minetest nman3600: When you show me ponies, I can only tell which one rainbow dash is. Sometimes also princess celestia. Don't know the other ones ;)
20:23 Megaf nman3600: still plenty of room, dont worry
20:23 Megaf there you go!
20:23 nman3600 i'm in
20:23 Megaf whoah!
20:24 nman3600 john i can list them all
20:24 Megaf nman3600: I will give you a land at spawn when I join
20:24 john_minetest duh, sourceforge is down.
20:25 Esteban back!
20:25 Megaf 17:24:38: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <Guest3455> amy its me
20:25 Megaf lol
20:26 Megaf oh dear
20:26 Megaf nman3600: you ok there?
20:26 john_minetest Woah, sf is SO slow right now.
20:26 nman3600 Megaf my world wouldn't load
20:27 john_minetest Now 100% package loss
20:27 Megaf maybe theres some sourceforge haters
20:27 john_minetest Might be DoS.
20:28 VanessaE works for me
20:28 john_minetest My whole internet is broken down :(
20:28 VanessaE sowwy
20:28 VanessaE at least you can still chat
20:29 john_minetest I can reach a lot of pages. But I can't reach xkcd, sourceforge, freshmeat, etc.
20:29 VanessaE the net, generally, is slow for me today
20:29 VanessaE no idea why
20:29 Megaf time to go home, cya
20:29 Esteban cya!
20:30 * sfan5 meows at Esteban
20:30 * sfan5 goes to bed
20:30 VanessaE hey sfan5
20:31 Esteban Hi sfan5!
20:31 sfan5 * sfan5 goes to bed
20:31 VanessaE sfan5: https://github.com/minetes​t/minetestmapper/issues/7
20:31 VanessaE before you do, just a note :)
20:31 sfan5 VanessaE: I'll maybe fix that tomorrow(tm)
20:31 VanessaE heh ok
20:31 VanessaE if it's worth fixing
20:31 VanessaE (I figured that one might be worth declaring as "support dropped" or so)
20:33 Esteban Well Im going to check the forums, cya!
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20:33 sfan5 VanessaE: this is caused by the bad way of parsing the color entries
20:33 * sfan5 really goes to bed
20:33 jojo_ hi
20:33 VanessaE hey jojo
20:33 VanessaE sfan5: ok.
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20:34 jojo_ how to get on irc
20:34 werwerwer_ joined #minetest
20:34 john_minetest woah, what's the matter with the internet here?
20:35 jojo_ i know
20:35 jojo_ i just want to get on irc
20:35 VanessaE jojo_: you already are
20:35 VanessaE :)
20:35 VanessaE This is Freenode, channel #minetest
20:36 * webdesigner97 goes to bed
20:36 jojo_ then why is it not in the chat on minetest
20:36 webdesigner97 CU! :)
20:36 VanessaE hey webdesigner97
20:36 webdesigner97 Yes, it's me :D The one and only
20:36 VanessaE jojo_: you mean the servers' chat?
20:36 jojo_ yes
20:36 VanessaE you're on the wrong network :)
20:36 webdesigner97 Something important or can I leave?
20:36 jojo_ how to get on it
20:36 VanessaE jojo_: use this link:  http://webchat.inchra.net/#minetest
20:37 john_minetest cya webdesigner97
20:37 VanessaE webdesigner97: hi? :)
20:37 VanessaE webdesigner97: no sleep for you :D
20:37 webdesigner97 VanessaE: hi :P Long time not seen
20:37 * webdesigner97 has a test in german tomorrow
20:37 VanessaE webdesigner97: and you.  where you been?
20:37 VanessaE oh ok. better get to sleep then
20:37 jojo_ thank you
20:37 webdesigner97 Well, too much sleep might be bad, too....
20:38 VanessaE jojo_: no prob
20:38 VanessaE webdesigner97: yeah but for a test, it's either sleep or study :)
20:39 webdesigner97 There is nothing to learn... We just read a book by Friedrich Schiller
20:39 webdesigner97 :P
20:39 john_minetest I bet my telematics lecturer configured one router in the area to tell every router "I got only one hop to nearly any website". Just to show that it is correct what he said in the lecture.
20:39 webdesigner97 </offtopic>
20:39 john_minetest </offtopic>
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20:47 john_minetest 97 bytes/sec
20:47 john_minetest Such internet
20:47 john_minetest very 12 Mbit/s
20:47 john_minetest much fast
20:47 john_minetest wow
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21:06 BlockMen "menudata.worldlist:get_raw_element" gibt nil zurück
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21:06 BlockMen ups, wrong window
21:06 jojo_ hi sorry for the slaps
21:08 werwerwer joined #minetest
21:11 webdesigner97 Ok, but now: Bye!
21:12 jojo_ i need the link
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21:26 john_minetest 220 minetest SMTP Postfix
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21:29 jojo_ who knows the link for the severs irc
21:30 VanessaE jojo_: use this link: http://webchat.inchra.net/#minetest
21:30 jojo_ sorry for the slaps
21:30 VanessaE or go directly with an IRC client,  irc.inchra.net  #minetest
21:37 blaise web irc clients are dangerous
21:37 blaise could get the computer aids from it
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21:46 john_minetest Well, I guess it is more likely that the computer gets a DNS (Desoxyribonukleinsaeure) infection.
21:47 john_minetest :P
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21:49 * NekoGloop pokes VanessaE's nose
21:49 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns3a9FDyDxs
21:49 VanessaE ow.
21:50 * john_minetest gives NekoGloop a <'(((((((-<
21:50 john_minetest If I was the character in a RPG, I would be the generous fish merchant.
21:50 john_minetest :D
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22:28 lordcirth Why does technic quarry mine faster than it outputs? it leaves ore in the mine
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22:55 zat Seriously, one should be able to specify multiple schematics for a decoration.
22:55 zat that way there could be forests with different kinds of trees for example.
22:56 WindHero you can achieve the same effect by using lots of decorations
22:58 zat eh no thanks, but thanks.
22:58 WindHero what I would like to see is animated HUD elements
22:58 zat I am trying to make VanessaE's moretrees to spawn trees only via register_decoration
22:58 Exio4 use .gif images :3
22:59 zat .apng :4
23:06 VanessaE good luck with that, zat :)
23:06 VanessaE however,
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23:06 VanessaE if you can make it into something I can supply as part of moretrees, I'd like to see it
23:06 zat VanessaE: thats my idea actually
23:06 zat make moretrees optionaly work without plantslib
23:07 VanessaE as long as it cretes substantially similar results as plants_lib does on mgv6 of course
23:07 zat I am now making schematic files of all trees
23:07 VanessaE creates*
23:07 VanessaE you can't do that
23:07 zat yes I can
23:07 VanessaE the trees vary a little bit
23:07 VanessaE they're L-systems models
23:07 zat sure, I am making 4 versions of each
23:07 VanessaE ehm
23:08 zat thats why I was asking for multiple schematics per decorations
23:08 zat there can be 4 different versions of a single tree
23:08 VanessaE just make an ABM that grows the saplings
23:08 zat randomly alternating in a forest
23:08 VanessaE have it call moretrees' growing functions.  those are independent of plants_lib
23:08 zat nah I want trees immediately on mapgen
23:08 VanessaE don't do that
23:08 VanessaE the lighting will kill you
23:08 VanessaE both mapgen and meshgen lag
23:09 zat but it works fine for normal and jungletrees,
23:09 VanessaE yeah, because they're far smaller :)
23:09 VanessaE been there, done that :)
23:09 zat eh
23:09 zat can I make the saplings made on mapgen to grow instantly?
23:09 VanessaE sure, change the growth ABM that's used on them to have a 1 second interval and a chance of 1
23:09 VanessaE you'll get the same effect then
23:10 VanessaE virtually 0 delay but you'll get a hell of a lot of mapgen lag then
23:10 zat but...
23:10 zat butt...
23:10 VanessaE no buts, you have to trade something
23:10 zat wont that make all saplings instantly grow?
23:10 VanessaE no
23:10 WindHero Use voxel manip to run the sapling code on_generated
23:10 VanessaE moretrees uses a special on-generated node.
23:10 zat I ask because I have no idea of abm :D
23:10 VanessaE moretrees:xxxx_sapling_ongen
23:10 VanessaE versus moretrees:xxxx_sapling
23:11 VanessaE only the _ongen ones need be rapidly grown
23:11 VanessaE that's how I do it now
23:11 zat ecsselent
23:11 VanessaE but the timer is set to start 10 seconds after the saplings are spawned
23:11 zat seems like I will have to do much less work
23:12 VanessaE yup
23:13 zat uhm, I think I will replace the common tree with moretrees beech trees.
23:13 zat I imagine they will all look different
23:13 VanessaE yes
23:13 VanessaE that was the purpose of beech trees
23:13 VanessaE turn off the default ones, enable beeches in moretrees
23:14 zat thats ecssiting
23:14 VanessaE they'll look similar, different enough to be interesting I think.
23:14 zat oop sorry, I watch too much youtube-poops.
23:14 VanessaE they're bigger, so you need fewer of them
23:14 zat yes :)
23:14 VanessaE exciting is the word you wan.
23:14 VanessaE want*
23:14 zat no, I really meant to say ecssiting
23:14 VanessaE heh, ok :)
23:14 zat or rather... nope.avi :D!!!!!
23:14 zat cat /dev/nope
23:15 zat exo-open nope.yuv
23:16 zat VanessaE: I spawned a bunch of beech trees and they all look the same
23:16 zat you haved tricked me
23:22 WindHero My guess...
23:23 WindHero is that they all got the same random number from generating simulataneously
23:23 WindHero unlikely, but possible
23:23 WindHero or it could be incorrect...
23:24 WindHero zat: look at this from here on: https://github.com/ManOfMinetest24/moonte​st/blob/master/mods/mapgen/init.lua#L105
23:25 VanessaE zat: strange, they should all look slightly different :-/
23:25 zat they look slightly IDENTICAL!
23:25 zat lol
23:25 VanessaE sowwy
23:25 VanessaE well, pull requests are welcome if someone wants to fix that
23:27 zat lol
23:28 zat strange, others are different
23:29 zat I am better going to try in a new world
23:29 zat in a brave new world~

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