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00:13 Jordach Sokomine, go to bd
00:13 Jordach bed*
00:13 Jordach (also, http://www.mediafire.com/listen/1​14aooov4ap4obj/synthgroove2.ogg)
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00:44 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix numeric underflow on calculating window size adjustment 09e8bbea03 2014-05-04T02:43:01+02:00 http://git.io/TRnaSA
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02:50 WindHero there, I modularized the mobsplus mod
02:50 WindHero now the inits for all the mobs are separate and can be toggled off in the main init.lua
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03:16 WindHero And now I added the Mese Monster and Lava Flan from zmobs.
03:16 WindHero Changes committed to GitHub, and notice posted in the forum thread.
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04:13 Aethrs This is probably a well known question but.. Is it possible to bring a minecraft world into minetest ?
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04:33 Eater4 ;op
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06:59 WindHero when creating a new Minetest "game"....
06:59 WindHero is game.conf relatively similar to minetest.conf?
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07:17 * Krock doesn't say hi. Totally rude.
07:19 Krock sfan5, the IE-hole has been filled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwged_96AdY
07:26 sfan5 !title
07:26 MinetestBot sfan5: Windows Lücke / Internet Explorer Lücke (Update) - YouTube
07:26 sfan5 Krock: yeah, i know
07:27 sfan5 hello everyone
07:27 sfan5 meow
07:28 * Krock gives sfan5 a cookie
07:28 * sfan5 noms it
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07:32 Krock 7/143666931   3/32
07:32 Krock wtf
07:32 Krock we don't have 143 million players :3
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07:45 whiskers75 !up capere.whiskers75.co.uk
07:45 MinetestBot capere.whiskers75.co.uk:30000 is up (229ms)
07:45 whiskers75 waah, why can't I connect
07:45 Krock i can
07:45 whiskers75 please don't :p
07:46 Krock too late
07:46 whiskers75 08:44:51: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(11/0)RunTimeouts(): Peer 1 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)
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07:46 Krock :(
07:46 whiskers75 nice try
07:46 Krock asie, you're symathic "please don't :p"
07:46 Krock ^^
07:46 whiskers75 03:45:50: ACTION[ServerThread]: asie joins game. List of players: Krock
07:46 whiskers75 pls
07:46 Krock wut?
07:47 Krock what's wrong with joining your amazing server?
07:47 whiskers75 ;)
07:47 whiskers75 one second
07:47 whiskers75 lemme switch wifi networks
07:48 * Krock noticed a speed of 5 minutes per compressed backup
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07:49 whiskers75 there
07:49 Krock 300MB -> 242MB uhm ok.. backups use less space
07:49 Krock ..when they're compressed
07:51 whiskers75 Krock: oic
07:51 whiskers75 my server has some bugs with connections (it's running a tor relay)
07:51 Krock why are you running it over tor???
07:54 PenguinDad Krock: you can't run a server over tor except the remote media server
07:54 Krock whiskers75?
07:54 whiskers75 Krock: The server also runs a tor relay
07:55 whiskers75 (the server which I'm running Minetest on)
07:55 Krock ah
07:59 whiskers75 ok
07:59 whiskers75 I think it's fixed
07:59 whiskers75 Krock: feel free to connect now
08:00 Calinou hi
08:01 Calinou More ways to get coins, added rare coin ore which drops a gold coin at -3000 and below, make some mobs a bit more rare, make bedrock drop nothing. Made clay easier to access but only drop 3 lumps.
08:01 Calinou now you can get all kinds of coins ;)
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08:03 whiskers75 Calinou: YAY Carbone!
08:03 whiskers75 capere.whiskers75.co.uk:30000 uses it
08:04 Krock Calinou, and what are those coins good for? vanity?
08:04 whiskers75 Yeah, I want to know too
08:04 whiskers75 I have 48 copper coins
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08:04 Krock whiskers75, plase set map save interval to 300
08:04 Calinou yeah, they have no use
08:05 whiskers75 sure, why?
08:05 Krock whiskers75, dafaults create horrible lag
08:05 Calinou they stack up to 10000 now (makes it easy to see full stacks)
08:05 Krock *defaults
08:05 whiskers75 Krock: mkay
08:05 Calinou and the round number looks pretty, when you have it ;)
08:05 whiskers75 any way to livereload config?
08:05 Krock Calinou, 9999 :P
08:05 Calinou 10000 now
08:05 PenguinDad Calinou/carbone#1 makes me laugh
08:05 Calinou see latest commit
08:05 Krock whiskers75, /set config
08:05 Calinou PenguinDad, what's that
08:05 Krock whiskers75, idk if there's a command to save the changed configuration
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08:15 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.9 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development channel: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
08:16 whiskers75 sfan5: ooh
08:16 whiskers75 sfan5: lemme configure
08:16 whiskers75 sfan5: expect downtime
08:16 sfan5 noooooo
08:17 whiskers75 sfan5: will the world automagically migrate to redis?
08:17 sfan5 no
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08:17 sfan5 read the top of the wiki page
08:17 whiskers75 oh, I'll use leveldb
08:18 whiskers75 redis doesn't work
08:18 sfan5 no?
08:18 sfan5 error plz
08:18 whiskers75 sfan5: it says unknown backend
08:19 asie hiredis
08:19 asie i think that's the correct name
08:19 sfan5 you need to compile with redis support
08:19 asie that too
08:19 Calinou you need latest git and compile with support
08:19 sfan5 and install libhiredis-dev
08:19 whiskers75 oh, I didn't compile with redis support
08:19 whiskers75 >_>
08:19 whiskers75 -- redis library: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhiredis.so
08:19 whiskers75 -- redis headers: /usr/include/hiredis
08:19 whiskers75 -- redis backend enabled
08:20 * sfan5 high fives whiskers75
08:20 * whiskers75 high fives sfan5
08:20 * sfan5 purrs
08:20 * whiskers75 purrs
08:20 Calinou why isn't LevelDB used by default? not stable enough? doesn't work reliably on Windows?
08:20 whiskers75 >windows
08:20 sfan5 Calinou: not supported by any client
08:20 Krock good question -^
08:20 sfan5 it works on windows
08:20 Krock I hope it wil be default for 0.4.10
08:20 Krock *will
08:21 sfan5 to build it for windows you need the src files from github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/src/leveldb
08:21 VanessaE plus celeron55 wants more testing done to see if this certain synchronization parameter can be used to make sqlite go even faster than levendb, reliably
08:21 whiskers75 [ 82%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetestserver.dir/nodedef.cpp.o
08:21 Calinou what does “not supported by any client” mean?
08:21 sfan5 it also needs to be default on android because sqlite3 does not work there for some reason
08:21 sfan5 Calinou: s/any/some/
08:21 Calinou ah
08:22 Calinou I gtg, bye, thanks for the answer
08:22 sfan5 hm
08:22 * Calinou throws a few silver coins in the room
08:22 * Krock waves at Calinou
08:22 VanessaE leveldb*
08:22 sfan5 but I think it should be supported in every client
08:22 sfan5 VanessaE: http://rocksdb.org :P
08:22 Krock ugh again a backend?
08:23 PenguinDad Krock: nobody developed it atm
08:23 whiskers75 sfan5, Krock: migratin'
08:23 whiskers75 04:23:13: ACTION[main]: Successfully migrated 14013 blocks
08:23 VanessaE http://www.sqlite.org/prag​ma.html#pragma_synchronous
08:23 VanessaE that.
08:23 Krock how small... just 14k
08:23 whiskers75 it's up!
08:24 sfan5 it might be enough to do s/leveldb/rocksdb/ on database-leveldb.cpp to support rocksdb
08:24 sfan5 \o/
08:24 whiskers75 !up capere.whiskers75.co.uk
08:24 MinetestBot capere.whiskers75.co.uk:30000 is up (58ms)
08:24 Krock uptime=19.2
08:24 whiskers75 sfan5: how do you reset a password?
08:24 sfan5 whiskers75: you might want to set map_save_interval to something small, because the data stays in ram
08:25 Calinou There are 1749 registered nodes, items and tools. → what I get in Carbone when starting
08:25 Calinou that looks like a lot
08:25 sfan5 whiskers75: delete entry in auth.txt or /setpassword user password
08:25 Calinou it's probably due to Stairs+ stuff
08:25 sfan5 (you need to restart for the first thing I mentioned)
08:28 whiskers75 sfan5: argh, it's laggy
08:28 Krock whiskers75, send your minetset.conf file
08:28 whiskers75 why?
08:28 sfan5 whiskers75: if redis does not work out you can try leveldb
08:29 whiskers75 sfan5: this server is beefy
08:29 whiskers75 I can handle redis
08:29 sfan5 did you compile with luajit?
08:29 whiskers75 no
08:29 whiskers75 should I
08:29 whiskers75 ?
08:29 sfan5 that makes some things faster
08:29 whiskers75 okay
08:29 whiskers75 what apt package
08:29 sfan5 it's usually a good idea
08:30 sfan5 libluajit5.1-dev IIRC
08:30 whiskers75 yay recompiling
08:30 sfan5 libluajit-5.1-dev*
08:30 whiskers75 -- Performing Test VALID_LUAJIT_VERSION - Success
08:30 whiskers75 -- LuaJIT version ok
08:30 * Krock has easy life with just downloading binaries
08:31 whiskers75 lol
08:31 whiskers75 us hardcore people compile
08:31 sfan5 ^
08:31 whiskers75 65% done
08:32 whiskers75 sfan5: it does use more memory and cpu, but meh, this server can take it
08:33 whiskers75 !up capere.whiskers75.co.uk
08:33 MinetestBot capere.whiskers75.co.uk:30000 is up (105ms)
08:33 whiskers75 :D
08:37 VanessaE I need some git advice :)
08:37 * sfan5 is there to help
08:37 VanessaE good :)
08:38 VanessaE for the sake of maintaining the mods in dreambuilder, pulling in changes and such, that is.  Right now none of the mods in the game have any git histories in them because last time I left such data in place, I was met with nothing but headaches.
08:38 VanessaE that is, only the overall game carries a history (which goes as far back as minetest_game does, plus all of my changes)
08:39 VanessaE so if I want to merge a mod's changes, for now I have been copying the mod wholesale into the game, sans .git* and then doing my usual git add/commit/push trio for the repo as a whole
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08:40 Krock whiskers75, getting ping of 1s at Onez server..
08:40 VanessaE I don't like doing that because it means it's easy to break stuff and it loses the commit history of the individual mods (especially authorship)
08:40 VanessaE what's the PROPER way to do this?
08:40 whiskers75 VanessaE: use git submodules
08:40 sfan5 ^
08:41 VanessaE ick... that means a person who clones my project is gonna have to do extra steps to get the whole thing
08:42 sfan5 yes
08:42 sfan5 git submodules init && git submodules update
08:42 sfan5 or directly: git clone -r <uri>
08:42 asie that's what i do
08:43 VanessaE ok let's see what happens.
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08:47 VanessaE hm, git clone -r isn't regocnized by my git command.
08:48 PenguinDad VanessaE: try --recursive
08:49 VanessaE hm, that didn't work as expected.
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08:49 VanessaE I probably didn't push the update correctly.
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08:51 sfan5 git add .gitmodules (or whatever it is called)
08:52 VanessaE git submodule add  <uri>
08:52 * whiskers75 afks
08:52 * sfan5 waves whiskers75
08:52 VanessaE but that isn't what I want to do here.
08:52 * whiskers75 waves back
08:52 VanessaE well maybe it is.
08:53 VanessaE oy.
09:06 sfan5 !c 17*2
09:06 MinetestBot 34
09:08 PenguinDad yay! sticky pistons are broken
09:08 asie not for me
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09:13 FreeFull Is it normal that the v7 worldgen doesn't generate any dirt, trees, or sand?
09:13 PenguinDad in carbone they are broken :(
09:13 FreeFull I'm not sure if it generates gravel either
09:13 sfan5 FreeFull: yes, mgv7 needs mods/subgames that defined biomes
09:13 FreeFull Ah
09:17 FreeFull So indev is the one to go for?
09:17 sfan5 either v6 or index
09:17 sfan5 indev*
09:19 FreeFull Or I suppose mathgen if you want to cheat and add dirt
09:19 FreeFull Aaah, so many flowers
09:20 PenguinDad here is the mesecons crash in carbone http://0bin.net/paste/ePrQGlU2C6WAegyf#145​VX2H4fwsOWwGiItyxHhTK+1DaG/oTSi00ENR1j9s=
09:22 FreeFull I miss the worldgen that generated those amazing huge mountains and arches
09:22 FreeFull By huge I mean absolutely gigantic
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09:22 sfan5 FreeFull: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/mgv5 celeron55 was working on bringing the 0.3.1 mapgen back
09:22 FreeFull With the top well above cloud level
09:22 FreeFull sfan5: That's awesome
09:23 sfan5 did you try mg yet? (not that it does this much, but..)
09:24 FreeFull Nope
09:24 sfan5 it's worth a try
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09:26 FreeFull Does singlenode actually generate a node?
09:26 sfan5 yes but it fills the whole world with it
09:26 sfan5 ironically singlenode does not generate a single node
09:26 whiskers75 sfan5: still playing on my server, btw?
09:26 sfan5 yes
09:27 sfan5 I completed the lava lightning
09:27 whiskers75 :D
09:27 FreeFull I'm at 0,0,0 and there is nothing ):
09:27 whiskers75 FreeFull: on my server?
09:27 FreeFull I'll have to worldedit something in if I want to do anything
09:27 FreeFull whiskers75: No
09:27 whiskers75 oh,
09:27 FreeFull Locally
09:27 whiskers75 v7
09:27 sfan5 singlenode fills the world with air by default
09:27 FreeFull Ah
09:27 FreeFull That's what it means by singlenode
09:30 sfan5 whiskers75: https://mediacru.sh/9ecc8092e959
09:34 FreeFull Ok, I've replaced a single air node with dirt
09:34 FreeFull Now I can actually build
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09:39 sfan5 <random> irc stats updated! </random>
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09:47 PenguinDad whiskers75: anticheat is disabled on your server isn't it?
09:48 whiskers75 PenguinDad: no, it's enabled
09:48 whiskers75 05:27:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: sfan5 moves stuff to chest at (censored)
09:48 whiskers75 :D
09:49 FreeFull Is there any way to see node IDs in inventory?
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09:51 PenguinDad explains why I could barely move after death
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09:52 john_minetest Hey
09:52 reactor ehlo
09:52 john_minetest New render: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/4dmRpt43hrlL.png
09:52 reactor Speaking of death.
09:52 reactor Why don't players always move to spawn when they die?
09:53 john_minetest There is a github issue iirc
09:55 whiskers75 sfan5: I'mma get on the server
09:55 whiskers75 oh yay
09:55 whiskers75 I mucked up my password again
09:57 whiskers75 whup, small reboot
09:57 whiskers75 PenguinDad: are you GhostDoge?
09:57 PenguinDad yep
09:57 whiskers75 sorry, I'm having password problems
09:58 whiskers75 PenguinDad: it's up
09:58 whiskers75 wait, wat
09:59 whiskers75 PenguinDad: there, fixed my problems
09:59 whiskers75 PenguinDad: you can login now
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09:59 PenguinDad lol I got this error again "float con::Connection::getLocalStat(rate_stat_type): Assertion '"Connection::getLocalStat we couldn't get our own peer? are you serious???" == 0' failed."
10:00 whiskers75 PenguinDad: wat
10:00 whiskers75 O.o
10:02 whiskers75 PenguinDad: are you in now?
10:02 * sfan5 is back
10:03 whiskers75 ;D
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10:14 sfan5 whiskers75: you timed out :-(
10:15 whiskers75 sfan5: D:
10:15 whiskers75 sfan5: sec
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10:23 whiskers75 sfan5: actually, I have to go
10:23 whiskers75 bai
10:23 sfan5 :-(
10:23 * sfan5 waves
10:23 whiskers75 stupid revision
10:23 whiskers75 bai
10:27 whiskers75 sfan5: continue building the top, and leave a locked door for me pls
10:28 sfan5 ok
10:28 sfan5 how do I make locked doors btw?
10:29 sfan5 !tell Calinou why won't diamonds in carbone drop diamonds?
10:29 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around
10:30 markveidemanis Hi
10:31 whiskers75 sfan5: no idea
10:31 whiskers75 !tell Calinou how the heck do you make stairs in Carbone?
10:31 MinetestBot whiskers75: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around
10:33 sfan5 is this a cheap joke?
10:33 sfan5 https://github.com/Calinou/carbone/blob​/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L127-132
10:33 markveidemanis whiskers75, Check the code
10:33 whiskers75 sfan5: wow
10:33 whiskers75 sfan5: ._.
10:34 sfan5 how do you get diamonds then?
10:34 markveidemanis sfan5, Wut?
10:34 markveidemanis oh
10:35 sfan5 apparently you can't get diamonds
10:35 sfan5 this is very nice, NOT!
10:35 whiskers75 sfan5: should I patch carbone?
10:36 sfan5 nah
10:36 sfan5 !tell Calinou how do you get diamonds in carbone?
10:36 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around
10:36 sfan5 atleast mese drops mese
10:36 whiskers75 sfan5: xD
10:38 sfan5 ooh ooh
10:38 sfan5 a mese block!
10:39 whiskers75 sfan5: O.O
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10:40 sfan5 asie|tab: tab as in tablet?
10:48 VanessaE sfan5: I'm confused...  all of the submodule stuff worked, but none of my local changes are pushing to the remote repository
10:48 VanessaE they're all here, down to the last byte
10:48 sfan5 did you do "git add .gitmodules"
10:48 sfan5 (or similar)
10:48 VanessaE git add .   actually.
10:48 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/dreambuilder_game
10:49 VanessaE there's the current state of the game
10:49 sfan5 the building_blocks thing looks broken
10:49 VanessaE yeah I know, I'll sort that one out separately.
10:49 sfan5 oh and you need to update the submoduless to new commits
10:50 sfan5 submodules were intended for people to recreate an exact state
10:50 sfan5 they won't automatically track remote
10:51 VanessaE so just cd to each dir, git submodule update and then...what?
10:53 whiskers75 sfan5: ping
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10:57 VanessaE *sigh*
10:57 VanessaE there's no way around it.  I have no choice but to lose all of the git histories for those other mods huh.
10:59 VanessaE otherwise it's just gonna be 10x more complicated to actually manage.
11:01 VanessaE ls
11:01 whiskers75 :/
11:01 sfan5 whiskers75: pong
11:01 VanessaE oops
11:01 whiskers75 sfan5: get on da server
11:02 sfan5 ok
11:02 whiskers75 sfan5: actually, wait
11:02 whiskers75 need to configure thigns
11:02 sfan5 ok
11:04 whiskers75 sfan5: there
11:04 whiskers75 sfan5: now get on
11:04 sfan5 k
11:05 VanessaE fuck it.
11:05 * VanessaE starts over from scratch
11:05 VanessaE this is why I keep backups :P
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11:05 VanessaE and records of what I did
11:10 * markveidemanis wonders what takes up 20GB on his linux partition
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11:15 whiskers75 sfan5?
11:15 sfan5 whiskers75: sorry, I was trying to debug minetest crashing on my phone
11:15 whiskers75 minetest on a phone?
11:15 whiskers75 O>O
11:15 sfan5 yes
11:15 sfan5 http://dev.minetest.net/Android
11:16 whiskers75 O.o
11:16 whiskers75 need to have
11:16 sfan5 meow
11:17 sfan5 whiskers75: it's not done yet (if it was we would have it in the play store)
11:17 whiskers75 D:
11:18 sfan5 but it works
11:18 whiskers75 is it playable?
11:18 sfan5 a bit
11:18 whiskers75 like how
11:18 whiskers75 sfan5: can you perform basic functions?
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11:19 sfan5 yes
11:19 whiskers75 :D
11:19 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=138421#p138421
11:19 whiskers75 sfan5: can you send me an apk to whiskers75+mt@whiskers75.co.uk?
11:20 sfan5 maybe
11:20 sfan5 i currently only have an apk that crashes
11:20 Krock ~tell
11:20 ShadowBot Krock: tell <nick> <text>
11:20 whiskers75 sfan5: lol
11:20 Krock ~tell CraigyDavi player "sagg" would like to get unbanned
11:20 ShadowBot Krock: O.K.
11:20 sfan5 Krock: y u no use MinetestBot's functions?
11:21 whiskers75 sfan5: but you had it working once?
11:21 sfan5 yes
11:21 whiskers75 Did you not keep a backup?
11:21 sfan5 no
11:22 sfan5 I'm currently testing this out: http://dev.minetest.net/Android#Android.27s_support_library
11:22 sfan5 would be good if that works out
11:23 whiskers75 sfan5: email me a copy if it works
11:23 sfan5 will do
11:24 whiskers75 sfan5: meanwhile, more revision
11:24 sfan5 :-(
11:24 * sfan5 waves again
11:24 whiskers75 sfan5: I'll be back in an hour/whenever you finish your android build
11:25 whiskers75 so finish it quickly, I need that for my Galaxy S1 :3
11:25 sfan5 ok :§
11:25 sfan5 :3*
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11:30 Krock sfan5, I think i'm still muted of minetestbot cuz of calculating 3**3**3**3 :3
11:31 sfan5 are you?
11:31 Krock MinetestBot!
11:31 sfan5 /home/stefan/aw/minetest.n​ewest/src/game.cpp:1062:6: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
11:31 sfan5 ^ awesome
11:31 Krock yup
11:31 sfan5 !unignore Krock
11:31 MinetestBot sfan5: 'Krock' removed from ignore list.
11:31 sfan5 make
11:31 sfan5 oh wrong window
11:31 whiskers75 sfan5: :D
11:31 Krock lol
11:31 sfan5 shit
11:31 whiskers75 wat?
11:32 sfan5 I guess I need to use gcc 4.6 instead of 4.8
11:32 sfan5 I wonder why it compiled last time
11:32 whiskers75 eww toolchain stuff
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11:37 whiskers75 !help7
11:37 whiskers75 !help
11:37 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
11:37 whiskers75 !btc gbp
11:37 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 256.4200 £
11:38 PenguinDad !btc rub
11:38 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 15436.4500 RUB
11:40 whiskers75 PenguinDad: sorry for screwing with the server, it's back up
11:40 whiskers75 !up capere.whiskers75.co.uk
11:40 MinetestBot capere.whiskers75.co.uk:30000 is up (221ms)
11:40 markveidemanis !btc 2000
11:40 MinetestBot markveidemanis: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
11:41 markveidemanis !btc GBP
11:41 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 254.8900 £
11:41 markveidemanis fucking hell
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11:44 whiskers75 sfan5: how is it going?
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11:45 sfan5 whiskers75: 4.6 does not crash
11:45 whiskers75 can has apk?
11:46 sfan5 maybe
11:46 sfan5 let me test myself
11:46 whiskers75 sfan5: then I want it
11:47 whiskers75 if it works, I'll play a bit
11:47 sfan5 you cannot open the inventory yet
11:47 sfan5 (but a bluetooth keyboard should work)
11:47 whiskers75 D:
11:47 whiskers75 but does it work
11:47 sfan5 yes
11:47 sfan5 I can fix things
11:47 whiskers75 give pls
11:48 sapier whiskers75: looking for a android port of minetest?
11:48 whiskers75 I'm happy with an early alpha, I just want to get this thing running and see if it works
11:48 whiskers75 sapier: ye
11:48 sapier http://animalsmod.comuf.com/​downloads/Minetest-debug.apk try this one, plz give feedback
11:48 reactor Speaking of death, again.
11:48 reactor Why do random-input clients keep moving after they die?
11:48 reactor And don't respawn?
11:48 sfan5 because the won't click the button
11:49 sapier did anyone experience strange crafting behaviour in current master lately?
11:50 whiskers75 sapier: installing
11:50 sfan5 why won't gdb work?
11:50 whiskers75 sfan5: because gdb
11:50 sapier gdb on windows?
11:50 whiskers75 sfan5: takes a while to install O.o
11:50 sfan5 on linux
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11:50 reactor Everything takes time to install in Windows.
11:51 sapier works for me, can you give me more information what you're doing?
11:51 reactor Thanks to the extremely non-automated everything.
11:51 whiskers75 sapier: I've got a loading bar
11:51 whiskers75 sapier: it's scanning things
11:51 reactor Fancy buttons you have to click for no reason.
11:51 sfan5 whiskers75: just wait
11:51 whiskers75 it has no progress on it
11:51 whiskers75 O.o
11:52 whiskers75 oh
11:52 whiskers75 wow
11:52 whiskers75 there
11:52 whiskers75 it has a lot of progress
11:52 whiskers75 Aaaaaand it crashed!
11:52 * whiskers75 claps
11:52 whiskers75 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
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11:52 sapier we don't know how much is there, that'S why it's scanning ;-)
11:52 * markveidemanis just got bitcoin
11:52 whiskers75 sapier: it crashed
11:52 sapier that's not what it's supposed to do whiskers75 ;-)
11:52 whiskers75 or so I gathered
11:52 whiskers75 oh
11:52 sapier do you have usb attached?
11:52 whiskers75 wow
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11:52 whiskers75 I got a meanu
11:52 whiskers75 but you have to press back
11:53 sapier ok menu is good
11:53 VanessaE sfan5: there, that cleans it up.
11:53 VanessaE did it the brute-force way.  nasty, but it works when all else fails :-S
11:54 whiskers75 sapier: the menu looks glitchy
11:54 john_minetest BRILLIANT: http://imgur.com/gallery/e2j7V6R
11:54 whiskers75 lemme try connecting to my server
11:54 sapier define "glitchy"?
11:54 whiskers75 sapier: it uses more of the screen then that available
11:54 whiskers75 holy crap
11:54 whiskers75 I'm in
11:54 sapier how big is your screen?
11:54 whiskers75 That of a Galaxy SI
11:54 whiskers75 s/I/1
11:55 whiskers75 WOW
11:55 whiskers75 1 FPS
11:55 whiskers75 SUCH SPEED
11:55 sapier did you see the standard menu from minetest or the simplified one?
11:55 whiskers75 standard
11:55 sapier ok then there's a bug, the crash you've seen, it should've shown a simplified one
11:55 whiskers75 it didn't
11:56 whiskers75 I had to press 'return' and then it showed the normal one
11:56 whiskers75 sapier: I get into the UI, and there's 1 FPS
11:56 sapier I'm gonna check, need to rebase it to current master too, this port is (slowly) beeing merged to master
11:56 sapier disable all that fancy graphics stuff in settings
11:57 whiskers75 sapier: mkay
11:57 whiskers75 sapier: how to press escape?
11:57 sapier android devices aren't that fast
11:57 sapier back should do
11:57 whiskers75 ah
11:58 whiskers75 I can disable the stuff in settings
11:58 whiskers75 but then can't get back :P
11:58 sapier why not?
11:58 whiskers75 sapier: because of the glitchy menu
11:58 sapier ok guess I should fix the wrong menu beeing shown first :-)
11:58 sapier give me some minutes
11:59 whiskers75 ok, lemme try without 3d clouds and fancy water
11:59 whiskers75 yay, 2 fps...
11:59 whiskers75 sapier: you need to optimize the hell out of this thing
11:59 whiskers75 sapier: want a logcat?
12:00 sapier try to move to some other place in world too, there are some world elements causing severe fps drops, we don't know exactly what those things are
12:00 sapier happens e.g. on vanesse's vanilla server arround spawn
12:00 whiskers75 sapier: I'm in my base (lots of lava)
12:00 whiskers75 sapier: lemme try a singleplayer wolf
12:00 whiskers75 rlf*
12:00 whiskers75 world*
12:01 reactor sfan5: they won't click the button, but why would there have to be a button?
12:01 reactor Why not just respawn the player after a delay?
12:01 whiskers75 sfan5: do you get faster fps with your build?
12:01 whiskers75 sapier: ah ha
12:01 whiskers75 sapier: lava is laggy, I think
12:01 whiskers75 I'm on a singleplayer island, and it's not that laggy
12:01 whiskers75 and it crashed
12:01 sapier lol :)
12:01 whiskers75 lemme give you a logcat
12:02 whiskers75 oh wait, g2g
12:02 whiskers75 sapier: I'll do more later
12:02 sapier I don't think sfan5's build behaves significant different as of fps
12:02 sapier ok thanks
12:02 whiskers75 sapier: email new builds to whiskers75+mt@whiskers75.co.uk
12:02 whiskers75 I'll try them and email you back when I have time
12:02 whiskers75 bai
12:02 sapier unless it's a release build, there's a difference to debug
12:03 puhfa hey, ive been trying to look for this piece of information online for days but so far with my skills nothing has turned up
12:03 puhfa does voxelmanip force every needed chunk to load?
12:04 puhfa and if not, is there a way to determine whether a single item in the data table has been loaded or not
12:04 puhfa without using get_node() for instance
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12:12 VanessaE bbl.
12:20 whiskers75 sapier: you got another build?
12:20 Jordach joined #minetest
12:20 sapier not yet whiskers75
12:21 sfan5 halp http://0bin.net/paste/fzhRNMwQ0RnoimmJ#c/D​GkKc55mwz50dybz0g+fxhTaC7f0yFefFFKrbMoZA=
12:23 sfan5 ^ whiskers75: solve that for me, then you can have the build
12:24 whiskers75 sfan5: O.o
12:24 whiskers75 sfan5: can't
12:24 sfan5 use your kitten powa
12:29 whiskers75 sfan5: but latin revision
12:29 sfan5 I need to do stuff too
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12:34 whiskers75 sapier: how's it going?
12:35 sapier need to fix something else first, don't expect it do be finished the next minutes
12:36 sapier it's a little bit more work then expected too
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12:38 whiskers75 sapier: will it be finished in 30 mins?
12:40 sapier I don't think so
12:41 whiskers75 D:
12:42 whiskers75 sfan5: what about you
12:43 sfan5 one of libgcc or libstdc++ is broken
12:43 whiskers75 sfan5: sounds fun
12:46 sfan5 WHAT THE FUCK CMAKE?
12:46 sfan5 it simply destroyed my configuration without asking
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12:49 whiskers75 sfan5: lol
12:49 whiskers75 sfan5: why/how/what?
12:50 * PenguinDad slaps CMake
12:50 sfan5 whiskers75: I wanted to change the compiler, but cmake just deleted half of the cross-compiling settings and tried to configure mt
12:51 whiskers75 sfan5: what did you do?
12:51 sfan5 change the value of the vars that store the compiler path
12:51 whiskers75 lol...
12:52 sfan5 I don't think that's funny
12:54 whiskers75 sfan5: :/
12:54 whiskers75 sfan5: I'm not saying it is very funny
12:54 whiskers75 sfan5: I'm saying cmake is screwed up
12:55 * Krock hates server crashees which happen for no reason
12:55 sfan5 at least better than scons
12:55 sfan5 Krock: tip: don't use windows
12:55 * sfan5 runs
12:55 * Jordach updates AMD Drivers
12:55 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
12:55 * Krock learned: Do not feed trolls
12:56 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5
12:56 whiskers75 Krock: why u quit the server
12:56 * sfan5 purrs at whiskers75
12:56 sfan5 Jordach: help me solve this http://0bin.net/paste/fzhRNMwQ0RnoimmJ#c/D​GkKc55mwz50dybz0g+fxhTaC7f0yFefFFKrbMoZA=
12:56 Krock whiskers75, I quitted it already 2 hours ago o.o
12:56 whiskers75 I know
12:57 sfan5 quit*
12:57 Krock whatever
13:04 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/9QleXsMjPV_v.png :D (dat OpenGL)
13:05 whiskers75 !up capere.whiskers75.co.uk
13:05 MinetestBot capere.whiskers75.co.uk:30000 is up (244ms)
13:05 Jordach !tell EvergreenTree :3 https://cdn.mediacru.sh/6Bnx3gEOucdH.png
13:05 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when EvergreenTree is around
13:05 Jordach pssh
13:05 whiskers75 observium needs a minetest server monitor
13:05 Jordach !up jordach.minetest.net
13:05 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 is up (361ms)
13:06 whiskers75 nuuu
13:06 sfan5 whiskers75: add one, both programs are open source (assumtion by me [copyrighted, do not steal plz])
13:06 sfan5 assumption*
13:06 sfan5 yay MT finished compiling!
13:06 whiskers75 sfan5: wat?
13:06 sfan5 jhjdhb
13:06 sfan5 frbhhbjbhrhbjrhbj
13:06 sfan5 ä4
13:07 whiskers75 I'm sorry, you what
13:07 sfan5 IT WERKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
13:07 whiskers75 :D
13:07 whiskers75 can I has now?
13:07 * sfan5 meows acknowingly
13:07 * whiskers75 mews excitedly and paws the mail inbox
13:07 sfan5 need to upload it to dropbox first
13:07 whiskers75 k
13:08 * whiskers75 wonders if it'll actually be playable on his server
13:08 whiskers75 or just FPS = 1
13:08 * PenguinDad squawks at Jordach
13:08 sfan5 meow
13:08 * whiskers75 meows at PenguinDad
13:08 Jordach mew
13:08 * PenguinDad pets whiskers75
13:08 * whiskers75 wonders why PenguinDad left the server
13:09 * whiskers75 purrs and headbutts Jordach (a kitty sign of affection)
13:09 whiskers75 sfan5: how long does it take to upload with your connection? :P
13:10 sfan5 >10 mins remaining
13:10 whiskers75 sfan5: O.o how big is this file?!
13:10 sfan5 25 KB/s upload is left after subtracting torrenting
13:10 sfan5 21MB
13:10 sfan5 lemme try compress
13:10 whiskers75 just pause your torrent
13:10 whiskers75 sfan5: you have a crappy connection
13:11 sfan5 torrents*
13:11 sfan5 ik
13:11 sfan5 my city has fiber but not on the street where I am
13:11 whiskers75 just
13:11 whiskers75 pause
13:11 whiskers75 all the torrents
13:13 whiskers75 sfan5: YAY, I got a bucket of water
13:13 sfan5 water!
13:14 whiskers75 yay cave
13:14 sfan5 still uploading..
13:15 Jordach whiskers75, get BFD and try to survive the first night ;)
13:15 whiskers75 BFD?
13:16 whiskers75 Jordach: ?
13:17 Jordach whiskers75, my own game for Minetest
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13:17 sfan5 !g minetest bfd site:forum.minetest.net
13:17 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?id=156&amp;p=77
13:17 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
13:17 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
13:17 whiskers75 any good?
13:17 Jordach sfan5, wrong topic
13:17 sfan5 wat wat wat
13:17 sfan5 wtf google
13:17 Jordach !g big freaking dig site:forum.minetest.net
13:17 sfan5 !g bfd game site:forum.minetest.net
13:17 whiskers75 lol
13:17 MinetestBot Jordach: No results found for 'big freaking dig site:forum.minetest.net'.
13:17 MinetestBot sfan5: No results found for 'bfd game site:forum.minetest.net'.
13:17 Jordach :O
13:17 sfan5 uh
13:18 whiskers75 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopi​c.php?f=15&amp;t=9036&amp;p=137257&​amp;hilit=big+freaking+dig#p137257
13:18 PenguinDad I personally don't like bfd
13:20 whiskers75 I need a hardcore mobs mod for my serve
13:20 whiskers75 r*
13:20 sfan5 !g creatures mod minetest
13:20 MinetestBot sfan5: http://minetest.net/mods
13:20 sfan5 wtf google
13:20 PenguinDad lol
13:21 sfan5 whiskers75: https://github.com/BlockMen/creatures
13:22 whiskers75 sfan5: I'll get rid of the crappy mobs mod
13:22 Krock any media server out there to use for mah servaar?
13:22 sfan5 ok
13:22 sfan5 Krock: your own, setting up nginx is easy
13:22 whiskers75 media server?
13:22 whiskers75 like mpd?
13:23 Krock sfan5, I think there are already media servers and maybe it's more useful to use one than for each server 1
13:23 Krock err complicated worth-coice
13:23 Krock *choice
13:23 sfan5 whiskers75: server that server minetest media (textures, sounds, etc.) because HTTP is faster
13:24 Krock *word than this english typo
13:24 sfan5 whiskers75: have you seen musicd?
13:24 whiskers75 mopidy, pls
13:24 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
13:24 sfan5 1 min upload time remaining
13:24 whiskers75 does that mean :D
13:24 * whiskers75 meows back
13:25 Exio4 sfan5: how much do you know about collision code?
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13:25 sfan5 Exio4: almost nothing
13:26 Exio4 i have a small problem understanding something, speed_f is += accel_f * dtime, why is in newpos speed_f multiplied by dtime?
13:26 Exio4 for PilzAdam ^
13:27 Exio4 around line 210+ of collision.cpp
13:27 whiskers75 sfan5: btw, is there minetest for osx?
13:27 sfan5 yes
13:28 sfan5 whiskers75: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u​/30267315/Minetest/mtandroid.tar.xz
13:28 jin_xi uhm, coz accel changes speed with time and speed changes pos with time?
13:28 whiskers75 sfan5: :D
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13:28 Exio4 jin_xi: ahm
13:29 whiskers75 sfan5: lol, putat[slash]sdcard
13:30 sfan5 whiskers75: note: /sdcard can mean internal memory even if you have an sdcard
13:30 whiskers75 sfan5: ik
13:30 whiskers75 sfan5: I have had my fair share of modding
13:30 sfan5 whiskers75: do you use CyanodenMod?
13:31 whiskers75 Yes!
13:31 whiskers75 sfan5: :D
13:32 Taoki Does the current Lua API allow looping a global (non-directional) sound for a specific player only? I'm seeinbg some examples on how to play sounds for individual players, but it doesn't explain if loop works too
13:32 sfan5 Taoki: I think it does
13:32 Taoki ok
13:32 whiskers75 sfan5: now I have two builds of MT
13:32 Jordach Taoki, loop afaik does work
13:32 Jordach see fire
13:32 whiskers75 sfan5: I think yours just insta-crashes
13:33 sfan5 :-(
13:33 sfan5 logcat pls
13:33 whiskers75 fine
13:33 Taoki Nice
13:33 Taoki Jordach: Fire plays for everyone though, not just one player
13:33 Jordach Taoki, my jukebox plays just for one player
13:33 Jordach but doesn't loop
13:33 Taoki ok. I imagine loop should work too. Though one can never know
13:34 RealBadAngel loop = bool: Sound is looped. Only sounds connected to objects can be looped. default = false
13:34 whiskers75 sfan5: IT WORKED
13:34 whiskers75 it worked the 2nd time :D
13:34 sfan5 meow
13:34 whiskers75 oh wiat
13:34 sfan5 but do not click too many buttons or it will crash
13:34 whiskers75 crash
13:34 whiskers75 I spammed a button
13:35 RealBadAngel http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.sound_play
13:35 whiskers75 sfan5: I can't click on Client
13:35 whiskers75 sfan5: it just crashed
13:35 Jordach RealBadAngel, fuck the deb wiki
13:35 sfan5 whiskers75: logcat
13:35 Jordach dev* it never has any useful info for Lua modders
13:35 whiskers75 prrrr
13:35 whiskers75 logcat
13:35 sfan5 whiskers75: rm /sdcard/minetest/client/serverlist/*
13:36 whiskers75 sfan5: http://0bin.net/paste/nXxvnqo4JpV8fvjG#Tpv​dWnq0AsPl1aKFnOWG/uvnMFcMlB0hA7p3t95wgHY=
13:36 PenguinDad Jordach: lua_api.txt has the info ;)
13:36 Jordach PenguinDad, that's even more vaugew
13:36 Jordach -w
13:36 sfan5 whiskers75: is there something looking like  http://0bin.net/paste/fzhRNMwQ0RnoimmJ#c/D​GkKc55mwz50dybz0g+fxhTaC7f0yFefFFKrbMoZA= in the logcat?
13:36 whiskers75 sfan5: how to enter text
13:36 sfan5 u can't
13:37 sfan5 do things in minetest.conf
13:37 sfan5 I'm working on thazt
13:37 sfan5 -z
13:37 whiskers75 sfan5: Very Yes
13:37 sfan5 but irrlicht was failing me
13:38 whiskers75 sfan5: that was one crappy build
13:38 whiskers75 sfan5: it can't really render
13:38 sfan5 :-.(
13:38 whiskers75 http://0bin.net/paste/YZZs3KRogOvEJija#0QI​ih4ANImpGqteroSnBqZgK/6SZYvkV67PtTUWzXPE=
13:38 Exio4 don't you have a hw keyboard?
13:38 sfan5 <sfan5> whiskers75: rm /sdcard/minetest/client/serverlist/*
13:38 sfan5 do that
13:38 whiskers75 sfan5: I did
13:39 whiskers75 sfan5: I can't type in my pw
13:39 whiskers75 sfan5: when using singleplayer, EVERYTHING IS RED
13:39 Exio4 external, with a tweaked usb wire and external batteries :D? so it has 5v
13:39 whiskers75 the blocks are all red dirt
13:39 sfan5 disable shaders
13:39 sfan5 disable shaders
13:39 sfan5 they won't work
13:39 whiskers75 >shaders
13:39 whiskers75 >enabled on android
13:39 sfan5 hm wai
13:39 sfan5 t
13:40 sfan5 libstdc++ is broken
13:40 sfan5 everything is broken
13:40 whiskers75 very crash
13:40 whiskers75 http://0bin.net/paste/7SW2MpUc-HLSnIiO#vD6​z3TpcfkhdS3UI6oe6vz5v9/r6ViAKlFbw7sphYVs=
13:40 whiskers75 much fix=
13:42 Exio4 libstdc
13:42 Exio4 libstdc++ broken?
13:42 Exio4 are you using bionic?
13:42 sfan5 android is using that piece of shit
13:43 sfan5 0x00a31fac: libgcc2.c:0
13:43 sfan5 :-/
13:44 * Krock 's 4th crash today :(
13:44 * Jordach hasn't crashed once
13:44 john_minetest Jordach: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/iWFvFeepQKoh.png
13:44 whiskers75 on computer?
13:45 Exio4 Krock: do you have any logs or ways to reproduce the crash?
13:45 Krock Exio4, no single error except of those since-10-minutes-coming "no player found for player id=XY"
13:46 Exio4 and how did it crash?
13:46 Exio4 segfault?
13:46 Krock no idea
13:46 Krock it threw no error
13:46 Exio4 ok..?
13:46 Krock and ram, cpu was fine
13:47 Exio4 it just died?
13:47 Exio4 looks like segfault
13:47 Exio4 OS? windows or linux?
13:47 Krock errors are enough there.. over 1MB for today
13:47 Jordach Krock, players who download the music from the jukebox take less time :)
13:47 Krock Jordach, what you mean?
13:48 Jordach Krock, i've had 0 ping timeouts and those peer errors
13:48 Krock Exio4, Windows Vista
13:48 Jordach not even when downloading nearly 8.3mb of stuff
13:48 Exio4 kk
13:48 Jordach also - lovely big
13:48 Jordach bug*
13:48 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/aroEeFWU35B6.png
13:48 Krock Jordach, you need 15 players online or more then they slowly come
13:49 Krock shooter pointing at your head
13:49 Krock :3
13:50 Jordach and i know how to properly selfie in Minetest
13:50 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bc_qPPI8xPCQ.png
13:50 whiskers75 Jordach: how
13:51 Jordach F7 twice
13:51 Jordach put the camera up against a wall, hold lmb, then F12
13:51 Jordach (or alt + print screen)
13:51 Krock very nice
13:53 crazyR is it posible to convert a map/world to work minetest_next. its currently on minetest_game
13:54 RealBadAngel huh, i just noticed that snow lying on leaves should also wave
13:54 PenguinDad crazyR: change gameid = minetest_game to gameid = minetest_next
13:55 whiskers75 sfan5: how're you getting on?
13:55 crazyR would it damage the map?
13:55 PenguinDad in world.mt
13:56 sfan5 whiskers75: I'm thinking about rebuilding the whole toolchain
13:56 sfan5 crazyR: no
13:56 whiskers75 oh god, toolchains
13:56 sfan5 *sigh*
13:56 crazyR wohoo
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14:01 * Krock tabs asie|tab
14:01 * asie|tab krocks Krock
14:01 * sfan5 taps Krock
14:02 asie|tab when i am home i plan to add colorful insulated cables to my mesecons addons
14:02 Krock :)
14:05 crazyR asie|tab: whats your mesecons addon?
14:09 Taoki Hmm... am I understanding this right? The API says that minetest.sound_play will automatically choose random sounds if you specify "file", and the folder contains "file.0.ogg, fie.1.ogg, etc". Is this correct?
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14:10 asie|tab crazyR: so far it consists of a custom fork of mesecons which removes and tweaks things i dislike in it, and mesecons-wirium which will be refactored into an API for easily adding new gate types
14:12 asie|tab i am working on adding gates which work like redpower2's, that is sides can be blocked with a screwdriver or something
14:18 RealBadAngel or sonic one, dont forget bout it
14:18 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:19 RealBadAngel hi PA
14:19 PilzAdam Exio4, speed is nodes/s; speed * time (in seconds) is distance in nodes
14:19 PilzAdam thats 5th grade physics
14:19 Exio4 i realized
14:20 Exio4 my physics skillz are like, negative
14:20 Exio4 real    15m19.222s
14:20 Exio4 compiling minetest is a netbook :D
14:20 Taoki hi
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14:21 RealBadAngel Taoki, yes, if you support many files the one played will be chosen randomly
14:23 Taoki Awesome! Seems to work too
14:25 RealBadAngel the method works for any sounds
14:25 RealBadAngel even main menu music files
14:29 * RealBadAngel wonder who broke camera matrices with that offset thingy
14:30 RealBadAngel and fucked up waypoints
14:30 Exio4 nore?
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14:30 nore yes?
14:31 Exio4 i guess you're that added the offset thingy? :P
14:31 nore yes, you're right
14:32 nore fixing the bug is a one-line patch, but I don't know the waypoint code enough
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14:36 Jordach and just walked into a easter egg in Harmor VSTi
14:36 whiskers75 sfan5: update pls
14:40 sfan5 whiskers75: I just finished my school work for tomorrow
14:40 whiskers75 any progress with MT?
14:40 sfan5 no
14:40 sfan5 but I thought of something to tweet
14:41 Jordach sfan5, there's an automated sequence that plays Nyan Cat automatically in Harmor
14:42 sfan5 !tw https://twitter.com/sfan55​/status/462965419180306432
14:42 MinetestBot What is Android development? Android development is debugging for 3 hours why the stdc++ library crashes in the destructor of std::fstream. (@sfan55)
14:42 sfan5 ^ whiskers75
14:42 whiskers75 lol
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14:43 sfan5 the sad thing is: I'm right
14:43 asie|tab RealBadAngel: i am not aiming for a direct clone of redpower2
14:44 asie|tab i am adding things i find particularly lacking, and minetest's gate system is a tad poor
14:45 nore asie|tab, I saw "Modular Computing - a failed attempt at a computer mod" on your website... you may be interested by https://github.com/Novatux/forth_computer
14:45 asie|tab nore: i have seen it
14:45 nore oh, good... what do you think of it?
14:45 asie|tab nore: not bad!
14:46 asie|tab but my concept is a bit more modular
14:46 asie|tab one, a mod that adds a chassis and lets you define custom cpus, peripherals, etc
14:46 asie|tab two, mods which add them according to the wishes of the dev under a common interface
14:46 asie|tab so everything is crosscompatible but modular!
14:46 nore well, thanks... right now, the only way to do modular things would be to add a lot of CPUs on the same digiline network
14:47 asie|tab i dont really think digilines are perfect for this
14:47 nore but that would mean writing a library to handle that
14:47 asie|tab digilines are great for communication, not peripheral interfacing
14:47 nore well, digilines have their benefits and their drawbacks...
14:47 asie|tab though it depends on the kind of interfacing
14:48 asie|tab i love memory-mapped ios, but that would only work for an emulated cpu architecture, and doing one in lua(jit) is a poor idea
14:48 nore they are what I used for IO with disk drives...
14:48 nore actually, the computer is already an emulated CPU... running a forth system I wrote from scratch (took me a while...)
14:48 asie|tab yeah
14:49 asie|tab it is neat but i would design some parts of it differently
14:49 nore such as?
14:49 Exio4 make lisp machines
14:49 asie|tab not everyone likes or wants forth... RBA wants a Z80, for instance; therefore, the cpu/architecture should be modular
14:49 Exio4 :D
14:50 nore Exio4, I once thought about it... but compiling lisp is a not-so-easy thing to do
14:50 asie|tab peripherals should be on a special bus type for fast communication - that would also give them more power than digilines
14:50 asie|tab although digilines should stay as a comms method
14:50 sfan5 we should add z80 emulation to minetest
14:50 sfan5 or wait
14:50 asie|tab afk
14:50 sfan5 we should extend the z80 instruction set for 32bit and then add emulation for that to mt
14:51 Exio4 what the fuck sfan5?
14:51 sfan5 meow
14:51 nore and then I'll have to re-code my forth system :( ...
14:52 sfan5 Exio4: this is what kittens do all day
14:52 nore well, there are only about 100 assembly-coded words... but address mapping will have to be changed too... anyway, why Z80 and not something else?
14:53 sfan5 because nostalgic
14:53 Exio4 i'd say because it would be fkng easy
14:53 reactor better PDP-11 then
14:53 Exio4 compared to any other char
14:53 reactor z80 is not even a real computer
14:53 Exio4 arch *
14:53 reactor Neither is 8086
14:53 * sfan5 meows at reactor
14:53 * reactor barks at sfan5
14:53 PenguinDad is z80 Riscy?
14:54 reactor z80 is Crappy
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14:54 reactor look at its assembly
14:54 * sfan5 purrs at asie|tab
14:54 sfan5 how about armv7m
14:55 Exio4 embed qemu and have all its supported archs in MT!
14:55 sfan5 no really
14:55 sfan5 ARMv7M is good
14:55 sfan5 lol https://github.com/asciimoo/drawille
14:55 nore how about quantum computers?
14:55 RealBadAngel http://libz80.sourceforge.net/
14:56 sfan5 RealBadAngel: did you consider ARMv7m?
14:56 RealBadAngel no, i wanted something old school
14:56 PenguinDad sfan5: with or without NEON?
14:56 sfan5 w/o
14:56 RealBadAngel as opposite to 6502 being used in minecraft
14:56 sfan5 does armv7m even have neon?
14:57 RealBadAngel not to mention i was z80 demoscene coder
14:57 RealBadAngel also z80 is capable of running CP/M
14:57 RealBadAngel which would mean tons of ready applications to use in it
14:57 Exio4 demoscene?
14:57 RealBadAngel ZX Spectrum / Sam Coupe
14:58 sfan5 PenguinDad: >ARMv7-M does not currently support floating point instructions. This column can be ignored.
14:58 sfan5 from official spec
14:59 Taoki Can on_punch be registered for players?
14:59 Taoki Or just Lua entities
14:59 sfan5 CP/M runs on AVRs too http://spritesmods.com/?art=avrcpm
14:59 sapier entities only
14:59 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2oLYC5PigE
14:59 RealBadAngel or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnhM2w3CGkA
14:59 Taoki ok
14:59 sapier you can't register a player taoki so how do youwant to do a on_punch? ;-)
15:00 sfan5 !title
15:00 MinetestBot sfan5: Sam Coupé demo lyra3nextbit - YouTube
15:00 sapier but you can try to set it in on_join
15:00 whiskers75 !up capere.whiskers75.co.uk
15:00 MinetestBot capere.whiskers75.co.uk:30000 is up (228ms)
15:00 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noKH_RXHrVI <--- game made by me
15:00 Taoki sapier: Yeah. I was thinking of player objects as being the same as entity objects
15:00 sapier worth a try
15:00 Taoki But I guess that's incorrect
15:00 sapier partial
15:00 whiskers75 sapier: is your android apk done?
15:00 sapier once I fixed all the new issues caused by new irrlicht code
15:00 Taoki sapier: Any other way if triggering code when a player has damaged another player or a mob? It's what I need it for
15:00 Taoki **of
15:01 Taoki And possibly know the player that did the damage and the victim who was hit
15:01 sapier for mobs it's no problem but I don't know about another player (at least by now), my statbar fix would add an event caused on player health change
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15:04 zsoltisawesome_ Calinou: anything new in Carbone?
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15:05 zsoltisawesome_ restcoser!
15:07 Calinou hi
15:07 Calinou zsoltisawesome_, see the log: https://github.com/Calinou/carbone/commits
15:07 zsoltisawesome_ thanks
15:07 whiskers75 CALINOU
15:07 whiskers75 Calinou: why can't you get diamonds in carbone?
15:07 * Calinou presses whiskers75's caps lock key
15:08 Calinou you can't?
15:08 whiskers75 Calinou: also, how the heck do you make steps in carbone?
15:08 whiskers75 Calinou: YOU REDEFINED THE DIAMOND ORE TO DROP GOLD
15:08 Calinou oh, yes, diamond drop is broken; gonna fix it
15:08 Calinou hold your ponies^Whorses :p
15:09 whiskers75 Calinou: how2steps
15:09 Calinou fixed
15:09 whiskers75 Calinou: how to make steps?
15:09 Calinou for steps, one minute; I have a few ideas about recipes
15:09 Calinou can't you make them like in the default game?
15:10 whiskers75 Calinou: no!
15:11 Calinou oh, you can use Circular Saw
15:11 Calinou _ O _
15:11 Calinou X X X
15:11 Calinou X _ X
15:11 Calinou X is tree, O is steel ingot
15:11 whiskers75 for steps?
15:11 Calinou (I may change that to wood instead of tree, makes more sense)
15:11 Calinou this makes a circular saw
15:11 Calinou allows you to create all Stairs+ nodes
15:11 whiskers75 ah
15:11 * whiskers75 logs in
15:11 Calinou it's locked, so if you put something in, other players can't take stuff
15:12 whiskers75 Calinou: we're using carbone on capere.whiskers75.co.uk
15:12 Calinou nice
15:12 Calinou good to see a server using it
15:12 Calinou I'm reimplementing some recipes to allow some Stairs+ crafts without circular saw
15:12 Calinou most notably, panels
15:12 Calinou (got a recipe idea for it)
15:12 whiskers75 me and sfan5 built a pretty epic base :D
15:13 Calinou how many coins do you have? :p
15:13 MinetestBot Calinou: 04-23 08:24 UTC <sfan5> <OldCoder> And poke Calinou and tell him his world ought to be saved too
15:13 sfan5 uhh MinetestBot?
15:13 MinetestBot sfan5: 04-25 21:14 UTC <john_minetest> hey
15:13 sfan5 damnit
15:13 Calinou hi sfan5
15:13 MinetestBot Calinou: 05-04 10:29 UTC <sfan5> why won't diamonds in carbone drop diamonds?
15:13 whiskers75 Calinou: 280
15:13 sfan5 hi Calinou
15:13 Calinou sfan5, fixed drops
15:13 MinetestBot Calinou: 05-04 10:31 UTC <whiskers75> how the heck do you make stairs in Carbone?
15:14 whiskers75 ._.
15:14 sfan5 good
15:14 Calinou sorry for the inconvenient
15:14 MinetestBot Calinou: 05-04 10:36 UTC <sfan5> how do you get diamonds in carbone?
15:14 whiskers75 sfan5: I figured it out
15:14 whiskers75 you need to make a circular saw
15:14 Calinou MinetestBot is derpy hooves
15:14 sfan5 yeah, saw it too
15:14 Calinou I'll implement some saw-less recipes
15:14 zsoltisawesome_ Calinou: +1
15:14 * sfan5 throws a kitten at MinetestBot
15:14 reactor demolition derby
15:14 Calinou stairs/slabs and panels
15:14 whiskers75 Calinou: make rats spawn less
15:14 zsoltisawesome_ Moontest FTW!
15:15 Calinou having quite a lot of rats creates a lively world, but I'll slightly reduce their spawns, OK
15:15 Calinou tip: they follow you when you hold scorched stuff
15:15 Calinou (obtained by smelting a cooked rat)
15:17 whiskers75 ah
15:17 Calinou zsoltisawesome_, 100% approved by Princess Luna.
15:17 PenguinDad TIL berlin is a ghost town
15:18 zsoltisawesome_ Calinou: lol
15:19 whiskers75 Calinou: join our server! \o/
15:19 Calinou later :p
15:21 reactor zsoltisawesome_: is it about space exploration?
15:21 whiskers75 TIL sfan5 is very good at building in minetest
15:23 sfan5 I'm a kitten
15:23 sfan5 kittens are always good at building
15:23 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
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15:24 whiskers75 :o
15:24 * whiskers75 is a big cat
15:24 * PenguinDad squawks at sfan5
15:24 * Calinou is a nyancat
15:24 * Jordach has a VSTi that has a Nyan Cat sequence
15:24 MinetestBot Jordach: 04-27 12:21 UTC <KikaRz> 3/2/1 test
15:24 GuacheSuede Hello
15:24 * sfan5 nyans at Calinou
15:24 Jordach fuck sakes MinetestBot
15:24 MinetestBot Jordach: 05-01 09:59 UTC <sfan5> https://cdn.mediacru.sh/uenwSrW9V0aj.png
15:24 Jordach wtf
15:24 MinetestBot Jordach: 05-03 06:26 UTC <sfan5> >not using mediacru.sh for audio files   pls
15:25 * Jordach cries a little
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15:25 Jordach \o/ shit
15:26 Jordach >10 mins track at 56kbps >weighs in at 4mb
15:27 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
15:28 Jordach ~tell * next person to say something gets this message
15:28 ShadowBot Jordach: O.K.
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15:28 sfan5 meow
15:29 zsoltisawesome_ ShadowNinja: what is Limnoria?
15:29 sfan5 zsoltisawesome_: what is google?
15:29 john_minetest sfan5: What is the internet
15:29 john_minetest ?
15:29 zsoltisawesome_ sfan5: what is startpage
15:29 zsoltisawesome_ ?
15:29 * sfan5 meows at john_minetest
15:30 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((((-<
15:31 * sfan5 noms it
15:31 * zsoltisawesome_ gives sfan5 a <'((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((-<
15:31 * sfan5 throws it into /dev/null
15:31 whiskers75 lol
15:31 PenguinDad !tell zsoltisawesome_ fishy
15:31 Krock fishy? that's a whale
15:31 whiskers75 sfan5: I quit minetest, it's slowly devouring this crappy laptop :3
15:32 zsoltisawesome_ lol
15:32 sfan5 whiskers75: buy a new one :3
15:32 zsoltisawesome_ !tell PenguinDad MinetestBot isn't here...
15:32 whiskers75 sfan5: >implies money
15:32 sfan5 or build a PC yourself
15:32 sfan5 it's not that expensive when you do it yourself
15:32 whiskers75 zsoltisawesome_: Limnoria is an IRC bot.
15:33 zsoltisawesome_ really?
15:33 sfan5 someone find the bug here: https://github.com/sfan5/minetes​tbot-modules/blob/master/tell.py
15:33 zsoltisawesome_ :O
15:33 zsoltisawesome_ searching
15:34 whiskers75 pls
15:34 whiskers75 build bots in js
15:35 zsoltisawesome_ sfan5: i found your problem
15:35 Calinou <sfan5> it's not that expensive when you do it yourself
15:35 zsoltisawesome_ you are using SQL :P
15:35 Calinou for low end, it's more expensive
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15:35 sfan5 Calinou: no
15:35 Calinou _but_ it gives you balanced builds: no crappy graphic cards, mainboards or cases
15:36 sfan5 zsoltisawesome_: that is not a problem
15:36 zsoltisawesome_ just teasing
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15:38 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
15:38 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
15:39 whiskers75 </3 MinetestBot
15:39 Jordach /kick whiskers75
15:39 whiskers75 I have a feeling Jordach hates my guts
15:39 whiskers75 and that of ^w, too
15:39 Calinou ♥ here's a nice heart
15:39 Jordach whiskers75, never tease MinetestBot
15:39 PenguinDad E> MinetestBot
15:39 whiskers75 :< MinetestBot
15:40 PenguinDad ♥ ShadowBot
15:40 ShadowBot 04♥ PenguinDad.
15:41 whiskers75 ♥ sfan5
15:41 whiskers75 ♥ PenguinDad
15:41 whiskers75 ♥ Calinou
15:42 sfan5 ♥ whiskers75
15:42 whiskers75 ♥ minetest
15:42 whiskers75 ♥ Cerise
15:42 whiskers75 ♥ celeron55*
15:42 zsoltisawesome_ sfan5: i know its something in lines 67-79
15:42 MinetestBot ♥ whiskers75
15:42 * whiskers75 things
15:42 whiskers75 k*
15:42 whiskers75 ♥ MinetestBot, too
15:43 zsoltisawesome_ horray for unicode hearts!
15:43 zsoltisawesome_
15:43 zsoltisawesome_ #moontest
15:44 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Uw8PIEPVel44.png :3
15:44 Calinou ugh, TinyURL
15:44 Calinou lol Jordach
15:44 whiskers75 ❯ hug sfan5
15:44 whiskers75 /away
15:44 Calinou your texture is misaligned
15:45 Calinou fix it, it's really ugly
15:45 zsoltisawesome_ PenguinDad: what is that command for kicking zsoltisawesome out?
15:45 whiskers75 zsoltisawesome_: /ns ghost zsoltisawesome
15:45 zsoltisawesome_ not that one
15:45 whiskers75 /ns release?
15:45 zsoltisawesome_ idk
15:45 whiskers75 away
15:45 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome_: /msg NickServ regain zsoltisawesome
15:45 zsoltisawesome_ thx
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15:47 Calinou I got stuck in Lua code, due to missing comma :'(
15:47 Calinou I'd like an editor which detects missing commas
15:48 Jordach Calinou, the "," in Lua, world champion at hide and seek
15:48 zsoltisawesome make NPP warn you
15:50 Jordach In Soviet Russia, GCC gives friendly user errors
15:51 Jordach fun bug: stand on top of a sheep in simple mobs and hear that grass sound
15:51 reactor user-friendly?
15:52 reactor you're welcome to write a better compiler
15:52 reactor also, look at clang
15:52 sfan5 clang!
15:52 reactor less optimisations, no FORTRAN support
15:52 reactor oh yeah.
15:52 reactor did you know scientifical programs do rely on FORTRAN, heavily?
15:52 reactor And no, Python or Java won't do for big big big matrices.
15:54 harrison how big?
15:54 harrison really really big?
15:55 sfan5 C is fastest for number crunching
15:55 Jordach I C what you did there :)]
15:55 reactor harrison: Щreally bigЩ, yes.
15:56 reactor what is good about FORTRAN, it has built-in vector operations.
15:56 sapier if you do it wrong any language is bad
15:56 reactor So that you don't need to bother about copying elements in a loop.
15:56 Calinou whiskers75, sfan5: git pull ;)
15:56 Calinou lots of new stuff
15:56 markveidemanis sfan5: what's the worst programming you have ever seen?
15:56 Calinou <zsoltisawesome> make NPP warn you
15:56 Calinou I use Geany
15:57 Calinou and NPP if I'm on Window
15:57 sfan5 markveidemanis: javascript
15:57 markveidemanis ...
15:57 * sfan5 imagines Calinou standing on a Window
15:57 markveidemanis I mean program-specific
15:57 reactor javascript is breaking the web
15:57 markveidemanis Example: Python-Phenny
15:57 sfan5 program-specific?
15:57 reactor whoever thinks it's good idea, can throw a stone at me.
15:58 sfan5 ah
15:58 sfan5 markveidemanis: openssl
15:58 Calinou markveidemanis, read Sauerbraten or Red Eclipse code and see
15:58 Calinou (despite it being efficient, it's poorly coded)
15:59 Jordach I use NPP: simply because of portable support and other magic like features
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15:59 Jordach and my sound driver appears to have crashed
15:59 harrison Oberon is as efficient as C
16:00 harrison In every other way, it is better than C
16:00 reactor good luck writing a compiler that optimises it as well as C
16:01 reactor while for C, you already have have established system
16:03 john_minetest oberon has an establised system
16:03 harrison so it would be easier, fo instance, to code a realtime voxel raytracer in C than in Oberon?
16:04 harrison ^... for ...
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16:04 harrison have you done that ?
16:05 Krock wth? 510 players? sounds like gulest-bomb
16:05 Calinou sfan5, whiskers75, I made rats a bit rarer as requested
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16:05 sfan5 thanks
16:05 Calinou they'll sometimes spawn in groups if you move (see the console): this is somehow a bug, but it's actually nice
16:05 Krock 514/515   444/514
16:05 Calinou this happens mostly in newly generated areas
16:06 Calinou a side effect is that they're well-populated immediatly
16:06 Calinou hostile mobs start spawning from -15 instead of -10, too
16:06 Calinou so you're a bit safer at higher altitudes
16:07 Calinou hmm, there could be even less rats
16:08 sapier http://animalsmod.comuf.com/​downloads/Minetest-debug.apk minimal android minetest port
16:08 sapier it's based on current master
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16:08 Calinou nice
16:09 sfan5 sapier: what compile do you use?
16:09 sfan5 compiler*
16:09 Jordach there we go :)
16:09 sapier official ndk r9c
16:09 sfan5 :-/
16:09 sapier what do you use?
16:09 sfan5 same
16:10 sapier what's happening for you?
16:11 sfan5 but gcc segfaults when compiling game.cpp with debug flags (I worked around this by using clang) & it crashes in the destructor of std::fstream
16:11 sfan5 ^ sapier
16:11 sapier I guess you've got a major bug somewhere else
16:11 sfan5 yeah, sure
16:12 sfan5 tell me where
16:12 sfan5 I have the same code like you
16:12 sfan5 s/like you/you use/
16:12 sapier are you sure? ;-)
16:12 sfan5 yes
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16:19 Calinou nice, boats allow you to see yourself in third person from all angles
16:21 Calinou I made a self-controlling boat :> there's a bug
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16:37 Krock 5th crash...
16:38 sapier Krock can you provide crashlogs?
16:38 Krock sapier, i can provide 2 MB of "no player found for id=xy" but no error for the crash
16:38 reactor backtraces would be better
16:39 reactor </captain>
16:39 sapier what version are you using?
16:40 Krock sapier, -dev20140425 and I can't upgrade
16:40 Krock blockmen's build
16:40 sapier why not?
16:40 PenguinDad why Krock?
16:40 sapier windowsß
16:40 PenguinDad + not
16:41 Krock PenguinDad, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=3&amp;t=1523&amp;p=140514#p140282 wait..haven't tested the new build
16:41 Krock but it seems to have no bigfix for my problem in th changelog
16:42 PenguinDad you should try it anyways
16:43 john_minetest Wow, coolest alphabet ever: https://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%83%A1%​E1%83%90%E1%83%A5%E1%83%90%E1%83%A0%E1%8​3%97%E1%83%95%E1%83%94%E1%83%9A%E1%83%9D
16:43 Krock john_minetest, all I can read are the numbers :3
16:44 Krock and this: Internet TLD
16:44 Krock wow I'm very good
16:44 Krock I can read that
16:44 john_minetest https://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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16:45 john_minetest Georgia :P
16:45 Krock (and not that thing in the USA)
16:45 john_minetest Georgia is near russia :P
16:46 Jordach hey blaise
16:46 Jordach BlockMen, *
16:46 BlockMen hi Jordach
16:46 * Krock waves at BlockMen
16:47 john_minetest https://cdn.mediacru.sh/iWFvFeepQKoh.png
16:48 * BlockMen waves back
16:49 Jordach BlockMen, not a single crash under x64 with your builds
16:49 Jordach only times i crashed was when i fucked up with the Lua
16:50 BlockMen Jordach, then was the the day i spent to get everything running not lost ;)
16:53 blaise Hi Jordach! :D
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16:54 Jordach hello
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17:00 Jordach i'm stating to suffer from this http://xkcd.com/1296/
17:00 Jordach (https://cdn.mediacru.sh/geZVVsKJoa8u.png)
17:05 Krock Jordach: +1
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17:06 Krock john_minetest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(U.S._state) || https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country)
17:07 markveidemanis http://marktest.co.uk/wp-conten​t/uploads/2014/05/IMG_1447.jpg Magpie or Seagull?
17:07 markveidemanis I honestly have no idea
17:07 Calinou added carts and boats to Carbone
17:07 Krock yay!
17:07 Jordach that's a fecking seagull
17:07 * Krock waits for trains
17:07 markveidemanis Wat about this: http://marktest.co.uk/wp-conten​t/uploads/2014/05/IMG_1458.jpg
17:08 Krock UFO
17:08 Krock ^- markveidemanis
17:08 markveidemanis me finishes adding captions
17:08 markveidemanis crap
17:09 * markveidemanis finishes adding captions
17:09 markveidemanis also gets a bit enbarrased
17:10 markveidemanis http://wp.me/p3XI3p-Dq
17:10 markveidemanis !title
17:10 MinetestBot markveidemanis: ProMedia &#8211; Seaside | Mark Test
17:10 reactor markveidemanis: elegant!
17:10 Calinou whiskers75, do you use remote_media?
17:10 markveidemanis &#8211 ?
17:10 Calinou yay for crappy entry sound
17:11 markveidemanis holy crap it says that
17:11 markveidemanis <title>ProMedia &#8211; Seaside | Mark Test</title>
17:11 Calinou sheeps galore, lol
17:12 markveidemanis reactor, Why thank you!
17:12 PilzAdam !kick markveidemanis don't spam
17:12 markveidemanis was kicked by MinetestBot: don't spam
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17:14 asie okay, i have no energy to code anymore today
17:14 asie tomorrow i want to accomplish two things: 1) port over lamps from RedLogic and 2) make gates have toggleable input sides
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17:19 Exio4 Calinou: the problem with chat, what keymap and so?
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17:23 Calinou French - alternate
17:24 Exio4 azerty?
17:24 Calinou yes
17:24 Exio4 so, more azerty problems! :P
17:24 Krock wut'
17:24 Krock qwertz
17:25 Calinou Exio4, it's still a bug
17:25 Exio4 yeah
17:31 crazyR guys what does a position string look like
17:31 Exio4 position string?
17:31 Krock code?
17:31 crazyR not table
17:31 crazyR pos
17:31 crazyR co-ordinates
17:31 Krock "x,y,z"
17:32 crazyR tanks
17:32 crazyR thanks
17:32 Krock depends what you need it for
17:32 Krock you also can use "x|y|z"
17:32 whiskers75 Calinou: no, I do not
17:32 crazyR minetest.string_to_pos()  <-- needs to be convertable via that
17:33 Krock crazyR, (X, Y, Z)
17:34 crazyR so  minetest.string_to_pos("(X, Y, Z)") or so  minetest.string_to_pos("X, Y, Z")   ?
17:36 Krock the 2nd
17:36 crazyR thanks
17:36 Krock as static spawn config in minetest.conf
17:37 whiskers75 !tell Calinou pls
17:37 MinetestBot whiskers75: yeah, sure, whatever
17:37 whiskers75 sfan5: meow
17:37 Krock whiskers75:woof
17:38 whiskers75 D:
17:38 whiskers75 sfan5: MEOW
17:39 markveidemanis Can anyone '$talk" with me?
17:40 PenguinDad much silence, very unloud, wow D:
17:40 Krock lol
17:40 markveidemanis "talk mark@31.48.192.6"
17:40 PenguinDad markveidemanis: I don't want to stalk you :P
17:40 markveidemanis :(
17:41 * asie $talks markveidemanis all the way to his house
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17:43 reactor Okay, this is depressing.
17:43 reactor All login attempts for today were with wrong passwords.
17:44 Krock bug?
17:44 Krock reactor, how's the server called anyway?
17:44 reactor Ghost Town
17:45 asie ...
17:45 Krock ah
17:45 PenguinDad "Time to load ascii X file: 0ms Loaded mesh: mobs_rat.x" how can I silence this?
17:45 asie reactor: the name makes it funnier than it seems
17:45 reactor May be a bug, not sure.
17:45 reactor asie: you're welcome to suggest a new one
17:45 * Krock added a crazy crafting recipe to carft lava with laba vuckets
17:45 asie reactor: Toast Town
17:45 Krock -^
17:46 reactor Well, I'll need to invent a toaster there.
17:46 Krock good idea
17:49 reactor Or... counting the server runs on a toaster, no need for that.
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17:52 Krock reactor, ever tried to run MTserver on a mircowave?
17:53 reactor Macrowave only.
17:53 reactor Didn't work. It cooked.
17:54 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
17:54 * whiskers75 purrs and headbutts sfan5 (a kitty sign of affection)
17:55 * whiskers75 slaps sfan5 around a bit with a kitten!
17:55 * sfan5 throws a kitten at whiskers75
17:55 * whiskers75 slaps sfan5 around a bit with a PenguinDad!
17:55 PenguinDad ouch
17:55 * sfan5 curls up to sfan5's lap
17:55 sfan5 uhh
17:55 * sfan5 curls up to whiskers75's lap
17:56 * whiskers75 hugs PenguinDad
17:56 reactor Tried a grenade?
17:56 * whiskers75 protects against reactor's grenade with a PenguinDad
17:57 * PenguinDad uses penguin powers against the grenade
17:57 reactor Well, congratulations. Because the one you were speaking of doesn't exist.
17:57 reactor I don't have any.
17:59 sfan5 whiskers75: MEOW
18:00 * whiskers75 purrs
18:00 * sfan5 purrs at whiskers75
18:01 whiskers75 sfan5: why do we not call PilzAdam 'Pilz'?
18:01 sfan5 because he will then start to malfunction
18:03 whiskers75 really?
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18:06 reactor 20 minutes 8 hours
18:06 * whiskers75 hugs sfan5
18:06 reactor And probably.
18:07 Jordach Pilz! Pilz! i've got a mod for you
18:08 Krock Pilz! Pilz! I like your airsword
18:08 PilzAdam !kick Krock Jordach
18:08 Krock was kicked by MinetestBot: Jordach
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18:08 whiskers75 Pilz! Pilz! Hi!
18:08 reactor Ignore axe.
18:09 PilzAdam !kick Jordach Krock
18:09 Jordach was kicked by MinetestBot: Krock
18:09 Krock ....
18:09 reactor Vaccuum hoe.
18:09 MinetestBot left #minetest
18:09 Krock I'm sooo sorry
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18:09 whiskers75 I have a feeling
18:09 whiskers75 that was a Very Bad Idea (tm)
18:09 Krock me2
18:09 Jordach that tonight's going to be a good night?
18:09 * whiskers75 slaps Jordach around a bit with a album!
18:10 whiskers75 Pilz, don't kill me when I'm afk
18:10 * whiskers75 goes afk
18:10 MinetestBot joined #minetest
18:10 Krock LOL
18:10 PilzAdam !kick whiskers75
18:10 whiskers75 was kicked by MinetestBot: whiskers75
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18:10 whiskers75 but
18:10 whiskers75 but afk
18:10 john_minetest Don't call him Pilz.
18:10 whiskers75 why not?
18:10 PilzAdam oh, lets play autojoin kickball!
18:10 john_minetest Call him "Adam" or "PilzAdam"
18:10 PilzAdam !kick whiskers75
18:10 whiskers75 was kicked by MinetestBot: whiskers75
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18:10 PilzAdam !kick whiskers75
18:10 whiskers75 was kicked by MinetestBot: whiskers75
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18:10 PilzAdam !kick whiskers75
18:10 whiskers75 was kicked by MinetestBot: whiskers75
18:10 PilzAdam !kick whiskers75
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18:10 PilzAdam was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
18:10 whiskers75 NO
18:10 whiskers75 JUST
18:10 whiskers75 NO
18:10 whiskers75 NO
18:10 Krock kick john_minetest, he called you P!lz
18:10 PilzAdam joined #minetest
18:10 whiskers75 BAD PILZ
18:10 john_minetest Autojoin is bad
18:10 whiskers75 NO
18:10 Krock <Krock>kick john_minetest, he called you P!lz
18:10 whiskers75 BAD PILZADAM
18:10 whiskers75 NO
18:11 * whiskers75 afk for real
18:11 john_minetest !kick whiskers75
18:11 john_minetest :(
18:11 john_minetest I wanna have op plz :)
18:11 PilzAdam !op john_minetest
18:11 john_minetest thx :3
18:11 Calinou added Awards and Chat Plus to Carbone
18:11 * afk whiskers75
18:11 Calinou (more awards than in the vanilla one)
18:12 Calinou chat_log.txt in world directory logs all chat now, in addition to debug.txt
18:12 Calinou nicer way to see chat log for the server owner
18:12 john_minetest !op PilzAdam
18:12 john_minetest Hmmm.
18:13 john_minetest :P
18:13 PenguinDad PilzAdam: if you call PilzAdam "Pilz" he turns into "Atompilz" ;)
18:13 Krock XD
18:13 Krock +1
18:14 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Iwdc2c3aOg
18:14 john_minetest Related.
18:14 Calinou whiskers75, git pull and tyr? :p
18:14 Calinou try*
18:14 Calinou I GTG now, bye
18:14 Krock bai
18:16 * PenguinDad is now in detached state
18:17 Exio4 49%
18:17 Calinou I failed my latest commit message
18:17 Calinou :x
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18:35 whiskers75 Pilz!
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18:36 Fusl 20:36:15   +whiskers75 | Fusl: go into #minetest and yell "Pilz!" huehuehuehuehuehue
18:36 Fusl Pilz!
18:36 whiskers75 >_>
18:36 whiskers75 <_<
18:36 Fusl > nothing happens
18:36 whiskers75 >_>
18:36 whiskers75 <_<
18:36 Fusl :D
18:37 * whiskers75 runs
18:37 Fusl xD
18:37 whiskers75 Fusl: you have awakened the ghost of PilzAdam, who does not like to be called 'Pilz'
18:37 Fusl Pilz!
18:37 whiskers75 hm
18:37 whiskers75 he seems to be afk
18:37 Fusl Pilz! // PilzAdam
18:37 whiskers75 !tell PilzAdam Pilz!
18:37 MinetestBot whiskers75: I'll pass that on when PilzAdam is around
18:37 reactor Ha.
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18:37 Fusl does he bash or node.js?
18:38 whiskers75 he c++
18:38 Fusl so // is the right way to comment?
18:38 whiskers75 Pilz! /* PilzAdam */
18:38 Fusl yay
18:38 Fusl but
18:38 whiskers75 !tell Calinou OK, I'll git pull and tyr
18:38 MinetestBot whiskers75: yeah, sure, whatever
18:38 reactor /щ щ/
18:39 whiskers75 Fusl: now get minetest
18:39 * Fusl still does not get what other difference then "it's free!" between minecraft and minetest are
18:39 whiskers75 Fusl: It's C!
18:40 whiskers75 Fusl: It's fast!
18:40 Fusl yea sure
18:40 Fusl but
18:40 whiskers75 Fusl: It's moddable!
18:40 Fusl why not port the current minecraft protocol to something in c instead of writing something from scratch?
18:40 whiskers75 because
18:40 Fusl that would be the best thing ever
18:40 whiskers75 it's not free
18:40 Fusl but you can make servers accept "Play offline" connections
18:41 Fusl and then make clients have to log in
18:41 whiskers75 OH GOD
18:41 whiskers75 I JUST CHANGED MODS
18:41 whiskers75 AND THEN
18:41 whiskers75 ALL THE SHEEP BECAME UNKNOWN OBJECTS
18:41 whiskers75 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
18:41 reactor whiskers75: that should be expected.
18:41 Fusl the project is just useless in my eyes and so continues the idea to complete my node.js minecraft server
18:41 whiskers75 I know
18:42 whiskers75 Fusl: make a node.js minetest server
18:42 Fusl no
18:42 Fusl it wouldn't be compatible with existing minecraft clients
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18:42 whiskers75 Fusl: make a minetest server that is also compatible with minecraft
18:42 Fusl write a node.js minecraft server and also minecraft clients in c(++)
18:43 Fusl then just give everyone the minecraft clients who want them and who don't want them just tell them to not blame the performance
18:43 Fusl whiskers75: fk u
18:43 whiskers75 that's very nice
18:43 afk Fusl: pls m8
18:43 whiskers75 afk == skasturi, right?
18:43 reactor whiskers75: Minetest is not Minecraft.
18:43 whiskers75 reactor: I know
18:43 reactor They are independent projects.
18:43 reactor So, what is your requirement?
18:43 whiskers75 I don't require anything
18:43 Fusl reactor: maybe you can tell me what the benefits are when we switch from minecraft to minetest
18:44 reactor Use what works best for you.
18:44 reactor Try yourself and see.
18:45 Fusl hmm
18:45 Fusl exactly this is not how you get users to switch from minecraft to minetest
18:45 whiskers75 Fusl: that's not the point
18:45 Fusl any screenshots?
18:45 whiskers75 Fusl: sure
18:45 whiskers75 Fusl: one second
18:45 Fusl i mean
18:45 Fusl the screenshots on the website seems outdated
18:45 Fusl s/seems/seem/
18:46 whiskers75 Fusl: sec
18:46 whiskers75 reactor: where are screenshots saved again? xD
18:46 Fusl okay
18:46 Fusl i have to go
18:47 whiskers75 Fusl: nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
18:47 Fusl show me l8r
18:47 reactor whiskers75: in minetest directory.
18:47 whiskers75 not there
18:47 whiskers75 ohwait
18:47 whiskers75 Fusl: http://i.imgur.com/7hrQEq5.png
18:53 markveidemanis Ello
18:53 whiskers75 http://blog.whiskers75.co.uk/post/846​00954654/minetest-krock-vs-whiskers75
18:53 Krock ik
18:53 whiskers75 that should be put in the topic :D
18:53 afk whiskers75: yes, i'm skasturi :>
18:54 whiskers75 :>
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18:56 john_minetest Ubuntu is nearly worse than windows.
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18:56 sapier true, ubuntu got crap since they switched to unity
18:56 john_minetest The only useful thing in ubuntu is the kernel.
18:56 john_minetest upstart is even crappier than systemd.
18:57 john_minetest unity is a complete fail.
18:58 markveidemanis john_minetest, Y U OP?
19:03 john_minetest Because I am a cephalopod and cephalopods rule the waves.
19:04 * GhostDoge licks john_minetest
19:05 john_minetest Much lick
19:05 john_minetest such doge
19:05 john_minetest very ghost
19:05 john_minetest wow
19:09 GhostDoge Very cold
19:09 * doge licks GhostDoge
19:10 john_minetest Lol... "very cold". Your grammar is so bad.
19:10 john_minetest It is "much cold".
19:11 john_minetest Duh.
19:11 GhostDoge Many cold ;)
19:14 Krock ,02Some cold
19:14 GhostDoge Very notification on github
19:15 markveidemanis 1,3 hi
19:15 markveidemanis Yay!
19:16 markveidemanis 1,1C2,2o3,3l4,4o5,5u6,6r7,7f8,8u9,9l
19:16 markveidemanis Crap
19:16 * GhostDoge slaps Fusl
19:16 john_minetest !rainbow Colorful!
19:16 MinetestBot 4C4o4l7o7r7f8u8l8!
19:17 markveidemanis !rainbow 1,1C2,2o3,3l4,4o5,5u6,6r7,7f8,8u9,9l
19:17 MinetestBot 44​14,7​17C78​28,8​23o33​3,​3l66​46,​4o4​54,4​​57u77​68,8​68r33​73,​7f6​86,6​8u13​94,4​94l
19:17 GhostDoge ~rainbow Woof!
19:17 ShadowBot GhostDoge: Woof!
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19:18 john_minetest !Rainbow Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high. And the dreams that you dreamed of, once, in a lullaby.
19:18 john_minetest !rainbow Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high. And the dreams that you dreamed of, once, in a lullaby.
19:18 MinetestBot 4S4o4m7e7w7h8e8r8e3 3o3ver 6t6h6e ra4i4n4b7o7w7,8 8w8a3y3 3up h6i6g6h. A4n4d4 7t7h7e8 8d8r3e3a3ms t6h6a6t yo4u4 4d7r7e7a8m8e8d3 3o3f, o6n6c6e, i4n4 4a7 7l7u8l8l8a3b3y3.
19:18 Krock ~rainbow ,011,102,143,054
19:18 ShadowBot Krock: 0700,0110708,1020713,1430701,054
19:19 Krock also nice.
19:19 whiskers75 GhostDoge!
19:19 whiskers75 :D
19:19 GhostDoge whiskers75!
19:20 whiskers75 yay
19:20 whiskers75 doge: WHY YOU QUIT MINETEST
19:23 Krock GhostDoge!
19:25 GhostDoge Krock is much away
19:30 GhostDoge Archlinux looks cool
19:30 whiskers75 no
19:30 whiskers75 no arch :3
19:31 GhostDoge ok then I'll use gentoo :P
19:31 whiskers75 GhostDoge: okusearchthen
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19:53 john_minetest arch is better than ubuntu
19:53 john_minetest At least systemd is consistent shit and not mixed shit.
19:54 BlockMen Win7 ftw :P
19:54 BlockMen *yolo
19:54 john_minetest Win7 is the best windows.
19:55 BlockMen john_minetest, no its the last
19:55 BlockMen win8 is "Tiles" ;)
19:56 john_minetest win xp was pretty nice but 7 had a few nice additional features.
19:56 john_minetest The stuff before XP wasn't that good and vista and 8 are complete crap.
19:57 BlockMen wut? win2000 was awesome
19:58 john_minetest It was okay.
19:58 lordcirth 2000 was reasonably stable, at least after a year of patches
19:58 john_minetest But XP was better.
19:58 BlockMen actually xp was 2000 + skin :P
19:58 BlockMen *more or less
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20:00 john_minetest XP was released short after 9/11... I'm so old...
20:00 john_minetest I still remember that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons​/6/64/Microsoft_Windows_logo_%28Pre-XP%29.svg
20:01 * BlockMen started using pc with win 95 :P
20:01 asie john_minetest: http://www.ngohq.com/images/WindowsXP.jpg
20:01 asie or was it?
20:02 GhostDoge my first OS was Win XP
20:02 GhostDoge and I got to go
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20:06 john_minetest I used 98 a bit, then XP, then ME parallel with openSUSE, then win7, then sabayon, then archlinux.
20:07 BlockMen ME = Vista = Win8 ;P
20:07 asie 98 -> XP -> Ubuntu -> Debian -> Arch -> Gentoo -> OS X (-> unknown Linux distro in late 2015)
20:08 john_minetest I actually spent most time on ME getting code from a book and writing it in the computer to make a delphi game.
20:08 john_minetest And I used openSUSE to play kgoldrunner.
20:08 john_minetest or lbreakout.
20:22 asie idea; a minetest modjam
20:23 asie modjams became a great way to faciliate new content int he minecraft community
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20:49 sfan5 !tell PilzAdam this is not how !kick is supposed to be used, /ignore is for personal problems, not !kick
20:49 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when PilzAdam is around
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20:54 whiskers75 sfan5: lol
20:55 whiskers75 sfan5: did I tick him off by saying Pilz?
20:56 harrison i would rather be ticked off than get lyme disease off a tic
20:56 harrison k
21:03 john_minetest wonder if I should let my PC run overnight
21:04 SylvieLorxu Depends on your reason(s) to do so
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21:26 ShadowNinja VanessaE: You used both a "ShadowBot: " prefix and a '~' prefix.
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21:29 VanessaE ShadowNinja: force of habit
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21:31 ShadowNinja whiskers75: Please disable auto-rejoin-on-kick if you haven't already.  Most ops would have banned you for that.
21:31 ShadowNinja ~tell PilzAdam Try /remove or a ban next time.
21:31 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
21:36 jin_xi ugh. revising painting mod (which i doubt anyone uses...) and confused.
21:37 jin_xi anyone got a clue how groups work?
21:40 Jordach !tw frankieboyle
21:40 MinetestBot Jordach: Give me a link, a @username, or a tweet id
21:41 Jordach !tw @frankieboyle
21:41 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/frankieboyle?1399239660.18 (@frankieboyle)
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21:43 Jordach kaeza, y u have flowy hair
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21:51 harrison Blockade of opioid peptides from opioid receptors for a short time each day (4 to 6 hr) with LDN provides a sufficient window of time (18-20 hr) for the elevated levels of endogenous opioids and opioid receptors to interact and elicit a response: inhibition of cell proliferation. Thus, LDN acts as a decoy to upregulate native opioids and opioid receptors.
21:53 * markveidemanis is setting up an ircd
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21:56 john_minetest UBER FACEPALM
21:56 rambomedic harrison do you have ovarian cancer?
21:56 john_minetest Grmln, did maths wrong all the time.
21:56 john_minetest ~op
21:56 ShadowBot john_minetest: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:56 john_minetest I want to be op again :(
21:56 john_minetest :P
21:57 Jordach !tell Calinou apparently the crafting for golden arrows is duplicated
21:57 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around
21:57 Jordach !tell Calinou apparently not, just a flipped recipe.
21:57 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around
21:58 john_minetest !tell ShadowBot I want op again!
21:58 MinetestBot john_minetest: yeah, sure, whatever
21:58 john_minetest !tell MinetestBot Lol
21:58 MinetestBot I'm not dumb, you know?
21:58 john_minetest :(
21:59 harrison rambomedic: not as such, no. that neoplasm would be quite surprising in a person of such virile gender as myself
21:59 john_minetest ~rainbow test
21:59 ShadowBot john_minetest: test
22:00 rambomedic harrison: are you trying to treat it?
22:00 rambomedic http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_rel​eases/2011-07/sfeb-ldn071211.php
22:00 rambomedic ~rainbow yolo
22:00 ShadowBot rambomedic: yolo
22:01 rambomedic ~rainbow ridethemagicdragon king of g
22:01 ShadowBot rambomedic: ridethemagicdragon king of g
22:01 rambomedic cool
22:01 rambomedic ~help
22:01 ShadowBot rambomedic: help [<plugin>] [<command>]
22:01 harrison no rambomedic, i am not treating ovarian cancer in myself
22:01 harrison but i am using LDN
22:01 harrison for another condition
22:01 harrison a much rarer one, i think
22:02 rambomedic which is.... ? (if you're comfortable ofc)
22:02 rambomedic john_minetest how do you get shadow bot to list plugins
22:02 rambomedic ~help rainbow
22:02 ShadowBot rambomedic: (rainbow <text>) -- Returns <text> colorized like a rainbow.
22:02 rambomedic ~help list
22:02 ShadowBot rambomedic: (list [--private] [--unloaded] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins. If --unloaded is given, it will list available plugins that are not loaded.
22:02 rambomedic ~list
22:02 ShadowBot rambomedic: Admin, Aka, Anonymous, Brainfuck, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Ctcp, Debug, DerplangPlus, Dict, Filter, FloodProtector, Format, Games, GitHub, Google, Karma, Later, Logger, Math, MessageParser, Minetest, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Reply, Scheduler, Services, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, Unix, User, Util, Utilities, (1 more message)
22:02 harrison http://myelitis.org/newsle​tters/j5/journal-5-06.htm read that rambomedic
22:03 rambomedic ~Aka
22:03 rambomedic ~help aka
22:03 ShadowBot rambomedic: Error: There is no command "aka".
22:03 rambomedic ~aka
22:03 rambomedic ~aka chocolate
22:04 Jordach quit the bot abuse or GTFO.
22:05 rambomedic harrison: what is the purpose of the redundancy in this sentence: "The etiology is unknown; at present we do not know what causes this disease"
22:06 harrison you think i wrote that?
22:06 harrison i did not write it
22:06 harrison and i refuse to take responsibility for the editing
22:06 harrison since i didn't do that either
22:09 john_minetest Jordach: Can I haz op plz?
22:09 john_minetest ;P
22:10 rambomedic lol I didn't accuse you harrison, was just wondering
22:11 Jordach no
22:11 VanessaE G*d damn it harrison, cut the shit
22:11 harrison it was his fault
22:11 VanessaE stop getting up-in-your-face when someone asks a question.
22:11 VanessaE you could have just said "dunno, I didn't write it".
22:11 harrison i did say that
22:12 VanessaE no, you said you didn't write it AND you refuse to take responsibility for it AND you refuse to take responsibility for the editing thereof.
22:12 VanessaE cut that shit out.
22:13 harrison why am i always oppressed? i blame the System. Not you VanessaE -- i bear no grudge. I am not angry -- just hurt
22:13 VanessaE er, the middle part is assumed :P
22:13 Jordach pssh
22:13 Taoki Hello. Can a forum admin please give me post rights in https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=​11&amp;sid=4814bab642b9cbf8ef612a7d8b76d5e6 ? I will be making mods, and being able to post them there would be helpful
22:13 VanessaE don't play the victim here, harrison.
22:13 harrison ow!
22:13 Taoki Don't even get while that session is restricted
22:13 Taoki Aaah, drama. Sorry to bother :P
22:13 Jordach you don't know the hell of having mental disabilities on a CV
22:13 VanessaE Taoki: you have to post in Modding General first :)
22:14 Taoki VanessaE: That's a rule for any modder? Ok in that case
22:14 VanessaE Taoki: yep
22:14 VanessaE afaik it even applies to moderators too in theory
22:14 jin_xi lol
22:15 Jordach VanessaE, LIES
22:15 Jordach write it in the trash area then move it without anyone even noticing ;)
22:15 VanessaE Jordach: "in theory" :P
22:16 VanessaE (I never said the theory hadn't been proven false ;) )
22:17 john_minetest So true: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfron​t.net/photo/aQqDn0e_460s_v2.jpg
22:17 john_minetest Hi VanessaE
22:17 VanessaE hi
22:18 Sokomine what mod are you plannig to release, taoki?
22:18 * Sokomine looks curious
22:18 Taoki Sokomine: Posting it soon in Modding General, will show after that
22:18 Sokomine ok
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22:19 Jordach VanessaE, ranged item pickup
22:19 Jordach any hints on finding that mod
22:19 Jordach s/ranged/auto
22:19 Sokomine regarding modpacks...is there any sensible way to do it? especially if we start calling them "games"? i find it unjust to name only those "games" which change mapgen and what minetest_game is/was slightly...
22:19 VanessaE Jordach:  https://github.com/cyisfor/item_drop
22:19 Jordach Sokomine, BFD doesn't count in any shape or form :>
22:19 VanessaE that?
22:20 Sokomine what's bfd?
22:20 VanessaE Sokomine: Big Fucking Deal? ;)
22:20 VanessaE (D=Dig)
22:20 Sokomine aah :-)
22:20 VanessaE Big Freaking Dig
22:20 VanessaE Jordach's game
22:20 Sokomine yes, jordach was talking about that and posted screenshots :-)
22:20 Sokomine i was even testing it shortly
22:21 VanessaE I need testers for Dreambuilder too
22:21 Jordach VanessaE, well, change VE-Survival into VE-Dreambuilder
22:21 VanessaE especially to make sure I didn't screw anything up with the little git-learning hiccups over the last couple of days
22:21 Jordach *hint hint*
22:21 VanessaE Jordach: both Survival and Creative run Dreambuilder so that wouldn't make much sense
22:21 Sokomine isn't dreambuilder the version running on your server(s)? the only issues i have with that is that i want to see players online building there - not in their singleplayer worlds :-)
22:21 VanessaE Sokomine: well I need local testing
22:22 VanessaE because of exactly that issue.
22:22 Jordach we really need a better soloution to automated protection
22:22 Sokomine ah
22:22 Sokomine automated protection?
22:23 Jordach evaluates the lowest and furthest points and automatically applies an area that fits in the areas mod limits
22:23 Jordach in a bit (for some reason) git is failing
22:23 Sokomine i'll try to check it out a bit later, vanessa. though local testing might miss a lot of points
22:23 Jordach it is in a loop where two commits are identical
22:24 Sokomine aah
22:24 Sokomine that doesn't sound so good
22:24 jin_xi anyone here ever tried making a punch_operable entity? or an immortal one? i always get 'armor={fleshy=100}' 10hp GenericCAOs
22:25 Jordach jin_xi, immortal = immortal
22:25 Jordach fleshy is used because there isn't really anything else
22:25 Jordach and the tools only have fleshy damage]#
22:25 Jordach (i should know, i've toyed with simple mobs)
22:26 jin_xi no matter what i try, the entity dies when punched w/o tool
22:26 jin_xi i want it to die when you dig a specific node, no other way.
22:26 Sokomine jin_xi: i made my traders pretty resistant. in order to make really sure that they can't be killed (they're expensive and it would be an annoyance if players would kill the traders of others), they also heal whenever there's danger of having been hit
22:26 jin_xi hmm
22:27 Sokomine they have like 100 hp or something. plus healing
22:27 Sokomine that does help
22:28 Jordach and tweaked the simple mobs to evil mod
22:28 Jordach dungeon masters have 40 hearts
22:28 jin_xi https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L813 <<- how?
22:28 jin_xi i tried  armor_groups= {punch_operable=1, immortal=1}, same with groups instead of armor_groups
22:29 Sokomine hmm, i don't trust that "immportal" group too much. it didn't achieve the desired result for me
22:29 jin_xi same here
22:29 Sokomine perhaps it's broken. or we're both using it in the wrong way
22:30 jin_xi well, ok so this is not implemented? or ^
22:33 john_minetest cya
22:33 john_minetest left #minetest
22:36 * Jordach put Jordach's UV mapping skills to the limit
22:36 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PGnJatb9swx5.png
22:39 jin_xi yay, success.
22:39 * markveidemanis invites people to connect to 31.48.192.6:6667 #bots
22:39 Jordach BAM
22:39 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZNAzFj_l_jGz.png
22:40 jin_xi Sokomine: using set_armor_groups({foo}) after adding the entity works
22:41 Jordach jin_xi, can you try and make a working volleyball mod :D
22:42 jin_xi no u
22:42 Jordach VanessaE, how does one make game defined settings (eg, a custom minetest.conf within the game, that overrides settings)
22:42 jin_xi golf might work better
22:42 jin_xi yay, no more lost paintings when your brush is finished
22:45 jin_xi but i dont get why it only works that way and not via entity definition
22:46 jin_xi this way you need to re-set the armor_groups in on_activate too else your entities will be fleshy after a logout
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22:51 VanessaE Jordach: don't such settings go in game.conf?  otherwise I'm not sure
22:52 Jordach hey WindHero
22:52 WindHero hey
22:52 EvergreenTree Hi
22:52 VanessaE hey evergreen
22:52 EvergreenTree I was saying hi to WindHero
22:52 WindHero 1/4000
22:52 EvergreenTree but hi anyway
22:52 WindHero hi
22:52 EvergreenTree hifest
22:53 WindHero better hi than low
22:54 WindHero I just noticed you bringing up game.conf....
22:54 WindHero is that used for anything except naming the game?
22:54 Jordach WindHero, yarp
22:54 WindHero I can't find any documentation
22:54 WindHero can it set the default mapgen?
22:54 Jordach if you want physics settings, put a minetest.conf in the game base folder
22:55 WindHero I'm currently trying to make a game based off of something someone said in one of my mod topics
22:56 WindHero so I'm trying to see if I can lock the game to singlenode gen
22:57 Jordach WindHero, you can
22:57 Jordach make a minetest.conf in the games/<game name>.
22:57 Jordach <game name>/*
22:57 WindHero great, thank you!
23:03 Jordach WindHero, you in yet
23:03 WindHero nope
23:03 WindHero saving the cache didn't work right
23:04 Jordach you appear to be preloading items
23:04 Jordach because players on join when the reach that phase
23:04 NekoGloop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbHY7vBAp4o
23:05 WindHero I'd reckon I am, yeah
23:05 Jordach i've also noted your cache load speed is insane
23:05 Jordach (downloading media)
23:06 WindHero I don't even...
23:06 Jordach everyone else takes ages
23:06 WindHero I guess my signal is stronger than usual today
23:06 Jordach your loading time for new tracks is much better than dedicated lines that EvergreenTree has
23:07 EvergreenTree odd
23:07 WindHero I'm certainly not complaining!
23:07 Jordach what laptop are you using
23:07 WindHero Toshiba Satellite
23:07 NekoGloop so hay any up and happening things going on here?
23:08 WindHero A505
23:08 Jordach (and try to disable preload item stuff)
23:08 WindHero NekoGloop, waiting until Minetest finishes loading Jordach's server
23:08 EvergreenTree WindHero: don't use preload item visuals
23:08 NekoGloop Jordach: can I serverings too?
23:09 Jordach NekoGloop, jordach.minetest.net
23:09 NekoGloop what version of MT should I use
23:09 Jordach !up jordach.minetest.net
23:09 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 is up (312ms)
23:09 Jordach git
23:09 WindHero Yeah, I'll turn it off...
23:09 Jordach (hint, press esc when loading  media to cancel)
23:09 NekoGloop WOAH HOLY SHIT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FORUMS
23:10 WindHero now I got the "another client connected" error, :P
23:10 WindHero no more
23:10 EvergreenTree wait a bit
23:10 EvergreenTree then try reconnecting
23:11 WindHero took shorter than usual today...
23:11 WindHero both the other servers I go on usually make me wait 3-5 minutes :P
23:12 WindHero I'm thinking of creating an inverse version of skylands...
23:12 Jordach i don't bother copying the cache as my bandwidth is 60gb a day in internet usage
23:12 Taoki Sokomine: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9240
23:12 WindHero create islands of air underground ;)
23:12 NekoGloop oh the japanese support in MT doesn't murder the interfaces anymore
23:12 WindHero 60gb HOLY S----
23:13 WindHero Our internet is capped at 10 GB a month
23:13 NekoGloop 60gb what? O.o
23:13 Jordach and fibre is coming to me next year in autumn
23:13 WindHero :O
23:13 * WindHero is jelous
23:13 WindHero *jealous
23:14 Jordach i also get free sport channels and other stuff from the ISP, such as free landline calls to ANYONE.
23:14 WindHero here in Hawaii, our power and phone lines aren't even underground, lol
23:14 WindHero and a portion of the southern part of the Big Island has no broadband
23:15 NekoGloop can someone tell me what the bottom 2 options in the first column of the options menu are?
23:15 Jordach think MC digging particles
23:15 Jordach and something that even i dont know what it does#
23:15 NekoGloop ok
23:15 NekoGloop well I have no clue
23:15 NekoGloop because it's in japanese for me
23:16 Jordach why are you even in japanese
23:16 Jordach you speak engrish
23:16 NekoGloop because games that need japanese
23:16 WindHero ol
23:16 WindHero *lol
23:16 NekoGloop loading media, here we gooooooooo
23:17 WindHero I'm still there too, lol
23:17 * Jordach watches his send go upto ~70mbps
23:17 WindHero xD
23:17 WindHero what was it before?
23:17 Jordach 100kbps
23:17 NekoGloop well I'm going to assume it's working
23:17 grrk-bzzt joined #minetest
23:17 WindHero 0_0
23:18 Jordach i've hit 75mbps upload when EvergreenTree once joined
23:18 WindHero maybe less is more when it comes to internet...
23:19 NekoGloop 'cause damned if I can actually tell what's going on
23:19 WindHero my receive rate is capping at about 88 kbps atm
23:19 NekoGloop how many mods do you have, Jordach O.o
23:19 WindHero not that many
23:19 WindHero except a huge jukebox ;)
23:19 NekoGloop my recieve is like 120 kbps
23:20 * Jordach considers unplugging the attached system fan
23:20 Jordach i've kept noticing Control Centre fails to activate temp control
23:20 Jordach i was close to 70C
23:20 WindHero :/
23:21 WindHero !
23:21 WindHero p bad
23:21 WindHero I had to replace the motherboard and a few other things in the family desktop
23:22 WindHero (used to be primarily my mom's, but now I code on it more)
23:22 Jordach it's like UEFI doesn't give a shit anymore since that fan went in
23:22 WindHero and I accidentally got a mobo larger than the tower case
23:22 Jordach (i'm unplugging the bitch in a bit)
23:22 WindHero the new tower case has like, 4 built-in fans @_@
23:22 WindHero it's loud as Grimer
23:23 * markveidemanis invites the craftiest of spammers to 31.48.192.6:6667 #help :P
23:23 WindHero say what?
23:23 WindHero why....?
23:24 WindHero OK, there's no reason for me to still be loading media here.
23:25 Jordach there dropped 30C
23:25 Jordach all fans are now at 100%
23:26 WindHero the fan from the Nether
23:26 WindHero Jordach, have you ever played Cave Story?
23:26 Jordach nope
23:26 WindHero oh, I'm in now
23:45 Jordach My plans for tomorrow: get wasted at a bar, probably BFD
23:45 Jordach after*
23:46 EvergreenTree Getting wasted is always a good idea! (said no one ever)
23:46 EvergreenTree wait, but I just said it...
23:46 EvergreenTree :o
23:46 ShadowNinja Jordach: The minetest.conf in the game dir is overriden by the main minetest.conf.  Use minetest.register_on_mapgen_init() to force mapgens and mapgen flags.
23:47 ShadowNinja WindHero: ^
23:47 Jordach ShadowNinja, seriously
23:47 Jordach such bad design
23:47 Jordach wow
23:47 Jordach many brainwaves wasted
23:47 WindHero back
23:47 ShadowNinja Jordach: The game.conf is intended for default settings not forced settings.
23:48 ShadowNinja +,
23:48 WindHero and dc'd now
23:48 ShadowNinja You can use minetest.setting_set() for other settings.
23:48 WindHero great to know, thank you
23:48 Jordach anyways
23:48 WindHero any way to can force un-gen a chunk?
23:49 Jordach lemme reboot and remove this dud fan
23:49 WindHero kk
23:56 WindHero I'll be back later. cya!

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