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00:11 Jordach klick klack
00:11 Jordach system fan removed
00:13 Jordach EvergreenTree, HOLY SHIT
00:13 EvergreenTree hm?
00:13 Jordach i found a mountain in the world we were in made of stone
00:13 Jordach AND IT'S FUCKING OIL
00:14 EvergreenTree lol
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00:50 BlockMen night everyone
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00:54 EvergreenTree g'night everyone
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01:00 lemon what "Congestion control parameters" in minetest.conf do?
01:06 Jordach lolwat
01:06 Jordach i'm up longer than evergreen and he's in the US
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07:06 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@yahoo.com commited to minetest/minetest: Bugfix: make waypoints respect camera offset 6f511b1d05 2014-05-05T09:03:37+02:00 http://git.io/DSEYlg
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07:40 RealBadAngel Unified Inventory is updated with waypoints support
07:40 RealBadAngel ofc for that feature you will need up to date game
07:43 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/6VAtiUW.png
07:48 VanessaE and dreambuilder is updated to follow.
07:48 VanessaE build  20140505-0343
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08:32 * whiskers75 hugs VanessaE
08:44 VanessaE hi
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08:55 CWz there's a server on the server list that is "lying" about it's user count
08:55 whiskers75 which one?
08:56 CWz Eternal Deadly Christmas
08:56 doge 514/515  o.o
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10:17 crazyR is there anyway to change an abm interval dynamicly?
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10:30 whiskers75 sfan5, meow
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11:39 Jordach morning
11:51 Jordach finally! (fixed TBM so it's not a sub repo anymore)
11:53 Jordach basically, git rm -rf --force * && git add * && git commit -m "commit"
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12:39 whiskers75 hi Jordach
12:39 whiskers75 http://gfycat.com/FormalPaltryAmericanindianhorse :D
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13:23 Megaf Hi
13:24 FreeFull Heya
13:28 tuorwork have minetest redstone?
13:29 nore see mesecons
13:29 nore tuorwork, ^
13:30 Megaf tuorwork: yep, It's even cooler than redstone
13:30 Megaf more complete
13:30 Megaf you can actually program microcontrollers
13:30 Megaf and make the server totally unresponsive
13:30 Megaf :P
13:30 tuorwork Megaf: wow
13:31 Megaf tuorwork: yes, mesecons are quite powerful
13:31 Megaf there are some cool logic gates
13:31 Megaf and some simpler ones
13:31 Megaf like diodes and not gate
13:31 tuorwork how can i have a look how minetest function? "like this is minetest"
13:31 Megaf hm
13:31 tuorwork diods. nice
13:31 nore you can visit VanessaE's server if you want to see that...
13:31 Megaf or my server?
13:31 nore you can see quite a lot there
13:32 Megaf I have pipeworks, digilines, mesecons
13:32 nore well, the simplest thing is to visit a server
13:32 Megaf tuorwork: hold on
13:32 tuorwork but this evening not now.. ;)
13:32 Megaf tuorwork: this is Mesecons http://mesecons.net/
13:33 Megaf and pipeworks are really cool too vanessae.github.io/pipeworks/
13:34 nore the video is quite old though
13:34 Megaf Those are mods for minetest
13:34 Megaf yay! 0 players on my server
13:35 Megaf ~up minetest.megaf.info 30003
13:35 tuorwork ok so i'll see this evening if i can join a server to watch how it looks.
13:35 ShadowBot Megaf: minetest.megaf.info port 30003 is up (610ms)
13:35 Megaf tuorwork: I will be happy and guiding you
13:35 Megaf in guiding*
13:36 Megaf tuorwork: just be around in 7 hours
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13:38 tuorwork UTC?
13:38 tuorwork MEZ?
13:39 Megaf tuorwork: 7 hours from now
13:39 Megaf tuorwork: 16 hours UTC 0
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13:41 Megaf tuorwork: be around at 16:00 UTC
13:42 tuorwork Megaf: ok, ill be on the way but ~16:30 UTC I-ll online again.. :)
13:45 asie refactoring my gate implementation into an API for easily adding gates
13:46 Jordach hey asie
13:46 Jordach walking to the shop this morning, and i can easily majorly refactor the tanks and jukebox
13:46 Jordach but i'm not bothering, in case it fucks up :)
13:48 Wooldoor Hi guys... Do you use WorldEdit GUI on your server?
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13:50 zsoltisawesome_ hi sfan5!
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13:52 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:52 Megaf Hi PilzAdam
13:52 Megaf Wooldoor: I don't
13:52 Megaf I rather use commands only
13:52 Wooldoor Hi Pilzadam!
13:54 Wooldoor How come, Megaf?
13:54 Wooldoor I mean, so far I only used commands too. But I wanted to try GUI
13:55 Wooldoor Unfortunately I can't get it to work. It shows up, but when I click the buttons nothing happens.
13:55 zsoltisawesome_ sad
13:56 zsoltisawesome_ Wooldoor? :D
13:56 Wooldoor Don't be sad zsoltiawesome_
13:57 Megaf Wooldoor: you need to select the area first
13:57 Megaf Doing a //pos1 for example
13:58 Wooldoor Thanks, Megaf, but not even the 'About' button works
13:58 zsoltisawesome_ its broken! broken, i tell you!
13:58 zsoltisawesome_ :P
13:58 Wooldoor That might be the reason, zsoltiawesome_
13:59 zsoltisawesome_ is it lua code?
13:59 Wooldoor Uh yes
13:59 zsoltisawesome_ lol
13:59 zsoltisawesome_ is it on the forum
14:00 zsoltisawesome_ i just got here
14:00 zsoltisawesome_ :P
14:00 Megaf Wooldoor: Anyway, I just disabled the GUI thing
14:00 Megaf in my world.mt file
14:01 Wooldoor yeah, I might have to Megaf
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14:01 Megaf "10:40:56: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: cerfsquare399 supplied empty password"
14:01 Megaf Why you no use password?
14:01 zsoltisawesome_ Wooldoor: <Jordach> Calinou, the "," in Lua, world champion at hide and seek
14:02 zsoltisawesome_ ^from logs
14:03 asie http://paste.ubuntu.com/7398812/
14:03 asie this is what the API currently looks like
14:03 asie textures are all mesegates_[name]_0.png and _1.png, the side and bottom is unified
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14:03 asie i will also rework it into a few helper functions
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14:04 zsoltisawesome_ asie: pretty cool!
14:04 asie it's nice as I will easily be able to easily define every single gate i wanted to define
14:05 asie and I wrote the API in a way that will let me add features to gates later
14:05 asie such as RedPower2-esque blocking of certain input sides
14:05 zsoltisawesome_ WHO says polio is coming back :O
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14:08 zsoltisawesome_ Krock!
14:08 Krock hello
14:09 zsoltisawesome_ Jordach: Github for windows 8 is quite... white
14:09 zsoltisawesome_ is there a dark color scheme?
14:11 sfan5 meow
14:11 sfan5 hi everyone
14:11 asie how does texture overlapping work in minetest's API?
14:11 asie as i want to finally make use of it
14:11 * sfan5 puts a kitten on whiskers75's head
14:12 sfan5 asie: overlapping?
14:12 asie sfan5: as in putting textures one on top of another
14:12 asie i heard that is possible
14:12 zsoltisawesome_ like this: tiles = {"default_stone.png^default_mineral_coal.png"},
14:12 asie i see
14:12 sfan5 !g texture modifiers "minetest" site:github.com
14:12 MinetestBot sfan5: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/207
14:12 zsoltisawesome_ lol
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14:14 zsoltisawesome_ lol I am now µCarrot
14:15 microcarrot アイ・アム・エイ・スペイスマン!
14:15 Wooldoor omg I can't believe it. It was my client
14:15 microcarrot what!
14:15 sfan5 asie: https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/blob/master/src/tile.cpp#L1038-1452 look there
14:16 sfan5 microcarrot: にゃん~!
14:16 asie sfan5: that is absolutely amazing
14:16 asie ...japanese
14:16 asie i should get back to learning it
14:16 asie not modding minetest
14:16 microcarrot yes
14:16 microcarrot lol
14:16 microcarrot katakana FTW
14:17 sfan5 ^ meow
14:17 asie sfan5: i noticed.
14:17 asie i managed to learn hiragana and start learning katakana and then minetest.
14:18 sfan5 the katakana are very similar to the hiragana
14:18 microcarrot sfan5: ミーアウ
14:18 asie my main thing i find lacking in minetest is
14:18 asie there is no ability to dynamically change the texture, or is there?
14:18 microcarrot nope
14:18 sfan5 of nodes, no
14:18 asie i always wondered how signs_lib pulls it off
14:18 microcarrot textures are loaded at start
14:18 sfan5 but you can dynamically change textures of entities
14:19 asie microcarrot: not what i mean
14:19 asie i mean out of textures loaded at start
14:19 asie sfan5: i see!
14:19 sfan5 microcarrot: writing german words with katakana does not make much sense
14:20 microcarrot hm?
14:20 microcarrot meow?
14:20 microcarrot i think not that is a german word^
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14:20 sfan5 miau is german for meow
14:21 microcarrot lol
14:21 microcarrot http://www.sljfaq.org/cgi/e2k.cgi
14:21 microcarrot helpful
14:21 nore asie, about signs_lib: it stacks a lot of textures (one for each character)
14:22 tuorwork someone speaks german/french?
14:22 microcarrot sfan5, PenguinDad, etc.
14:22 nore tuorwork, I speak french
14:22 tuorwork oh nice.
14:23 * sfan5 throws a 世界 at microcarrot
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14:23 Krock what's better from MB/quality? mp3 or ogg?
14:24 sfan5 ogg
14:24 microcarrot you throw a world at me? ouch
14:24 microcarrot +1
14:24 Krock ok th
14:24 Krock x
14:24 sfan5 microcarrot: I didn't specify how big it is
14:24 sfan5 Krock: opus is even better
14:24 sfan5 but you don't usually measure such things in quality/MB
14:24 microcarrot sfan5: lol
14:25 Krock sfan5, opus? that's a music group
14:25 Krock </noob>
14:25 microcarrot time to update the moontest forum post, #necrobumping
14:25 PenguinDad much noob
14:25 Krock many noob
14:25 microcarrot such noob
14:27 microcarrot damn, how to strikethrough on phpBB?
14:29 sfan5 Krock: http://opus-codec.org/
14:30 Krock sfan5, when I look at the changelog, then it ssems like this has potential to beat mp3 :3
14:31 Krock *in popularity
14:31 microcarrot yay!
14:31 PenguinDad sadly minetest doesn't have opus support :/
14:32 microcarrot what is the deadline for ubuntuone?
14:32 microcarrot like to pull your files?
14:33 Krock microcarrot, does [del]blah balhtext[/del] work?
14:33 microcarrot hmm
14:33 microcarrot ope
14:33 microcarrot *nope
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14:35 PenguinDad :C
14:35 microcarrot what
14:36 microcarrot yay!
14:36 microcarrot moontest get!
14:37 microcarrot lol: "C:\Users\Zsolt\Downloads\T​his\folder\is\very\buried"
14:40 microcarrot achievement get: such mod
14:44 microcarrot erm: "Firefox can't find the server at www.mediarcru.sh."
14:45 microcarrot well crap
14:45 microcarrot Dropbox hates Tor, Mediacrush is broken, I have no way to upload screenshots!
14:49 PenguinDad microcarrot: Imgur
14:49 microcarrot Imgur doesn't respect privacy, that's why i dont use it
14:50 microcarrot i'm mad at Tor
14:50 microcarrot it won't let me access my 20GB dropbox!
14:50 PenguinDad Dopebox doesn't respect privacy too
14:50 PenguinDad *dropbox
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14:50 microcarrot they do a little better, but still
14:50 microcarrot ah!
14:50 microcarrot i knoww
14:51 microcarrot MEGA is the solution!
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14:52 microcarrot i hope MEGA is Tor-tolerant
14:52 PenguinDad Yotta is better :P
14:52 microcarrot in what way?
14:52 Krock mediafire.
14:53 microcarrot FUCK Mediafire!
14:53 Krock why?
14:53 microcarrot Ads are annoying
14:53 Krock get ad blocker
14:53 microcarrot i do
14:53 microcarrot MEGA is better
14:53 Krock Get a better ad blocker
14:53 microcarrot encrypted!
14:54 Krock go into darknet and publish there your criminal photos
14:55 microcarrot hmm?
14:56 Krock aagh why are automatically all topic subsriped when I post something?
14:56 Krock spam alert
14:57 microcarrot change your phpBB user settings
14:57 microcarrot :P
14:57 Krock Manage subscriptions -> Mark all -> Unwatch marked -> Wow that easy
14:58 microcarrot lol
14:58 Krock fu... 2nd page
14:58 microcarrot #lag
14:58 microcarrot lol
14:59 microcarrot that acually exsists
14:59 microcarrot XD
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14:59 Krock sfan5, Manage attachments -> Mark all -> Delete marked -> Do the mods really want that easy-made-delete-on-ragequit-feature?
14:59 Mikerhinos hi
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15:00 Krock hi sonihrekiM
15:00 microcarrot Hi kcorK
15:01 microcarrot k cork XD
15:01 PenguinDad EHLO Mikerhinos.local
15:02 sfan5 microcarrot: mediacru.sh not mediarcru.sh
15:03 microcarrot fail
15:04 sfan5 microcarrot: >Dropbox hates Tor
15:04 sfan5 umm
15:04 sfan5 are you using tor?
15:04 microcarrot sfan5: yus
15:04 microcarrot why?
15:04 sfan5 that is not a good idea
15:04 microcarrot why?
15:05 sfan5 it is not a good idea to log into any service over tor (without being sure that you're using TLS)
15:05 sfan5 the exit node can steal all your data
15:05 PenguinDad microcarrot: if you are using mediacrush over tor you should use the hidden service
15:06 microcarrot hmm
15:06 PilzAdam because fuck privacy, thats why
15:07 microcarrot PilzAdam: *fuck you
15:07 Krock ^- wtfy
15:08 * PenguinDad tries to find the wwan wire
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15:13 fluffy_ hi??
15:14 Krock bye.
15:14 microcarrot ;p;
15:14 Krock lol
15:14 microcarrot lol
15:14 microcarrot there isn't much to take pictures of on the moon XD
15:16 microcarrot erm
15:16 microcarrot lol
15:16 microcarrot i accedentally am trying to upload minetest.exe to mediacrush
15:16 microcarrot XD
15:16 Krock EXE FOR THE WIN
15:17 microcarrot yes
15:17 microcarrot APP FOR THE MAC
15:17 microcarrot XD
15:17 microcarrot https://mediacru.sh/BN8GBNadMoU7
15:17 sfan5 !title
15:17 MinetestBot sfan5: MediaCrush
15:18 microcarrot :O
15:18 microcarrot no way!
15:19 Krock MinetestBot, you failed.
15:19 Krock Title is MediaCrush (800x600)
15:19 microcarrot :O
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15:19 microcarrot asie!
15:20 asie hi
15:20 PenguinDad Krock: it's just MediaCrush for me
15:20 microcarrot would you like to be put down as a contributer to moontest?
15:21 sfan5 Krock: the (800x600) is added by javascript
15:21 Krock PenguinDad, sfan5, ok. JavaScript for the win then.
15:21 sfan5 no
15:21 sfan5 Javascript is bad
15:21 sfan5 very bad
15:21 microcarrot yes
15:21 microcarrot ECMAScript is better
15:21 microcarrot :P
15:22 Krock It's useful is many visual cases but it has too much holes at all
15:22 sfan5 both are shit
15:22 microcarrot sfan5: lol
15:23 microcarrot javascript ========== ECMAScript
15:24 microcarrot PenguinDad: Firefox can't find the server at mediacrs5ujufxog.onion.
15:24 Krock microcarrot, much equvalent.
15:24 sfan5 microcarrot: then you aren't using tor
15:24 microcarrot i am
15:24 sfan5 no you aren't
15:24 microcarrot its portator
15:24 sfan5 are you using your main browser?
15:24 microcarrot yes
15:25 microcarrot FF doesn't know its tor
15:25 sfan5 (what the fuck)
15:25 microcarrot it thinks its a proxy server
15:25 sfan5 you need to configure every program for it to use tor
15:25 sfan5 it won't do that automatically
15:25 microcarrot i know
15:25 microcarrot its set to use tor
15:25 sfan5 yeah, you did not do that for firefox
15:25 Krock microcarrot, better use tor brower
15:25 sfan5 otherwise it would find the server
15:26 sfan5 also if you leave flash/java/etc. enabled someone could easily get your real IP
15:26 microcarrot TorBrowser is the equivilent to 60 addons + firefox
15:26 microcarrot fucking slow
15:27 sfan5 (what the fuck)
15:27 sfan5 it's so slow because you can't expect good speeds from the tor network
15:27 microcarrot what?
15:27 PenguinDad hmmm… it's not slow for me
15:27 microcarrot i guess it doesn't like Minetest and firefox
15:28 sfan5 what doesn't like minetest?
15:28 PenguinDad you can't use minetest over tor -.-
15:28 microcarrot TorBrowser
15:28 microcarrot no shit
15:28 sfan5 uhh
15:28 microcarrot i have 2gb of ram
15:28 sfan5 what are your proxy settings for the browser you currently use?
15:28 sfan5 and?
15:29 microcarrot SOCKS proxy: localhost:9050
15:29 microcarrot ^tor
15:29 microcarrot lol
15:29 microcarrot TorBrowser is an idiot
15:30 Krock IE 1.0 is an idiot
15:30 sfan5 ???
15:30 microcarrot its all "I don't want to use the already running tor.exe, i will launch a new one, and make it so i can't load pages!"
15:30 Krock since when can things be idiots?
15:30 Krock programs only do what you tell them
15:30 microcarrot :/
15:31 microcarrot i didn't tell it to launch Tor twice
15:31 asie http://paste.ubuntu.com/7399288/
15:32 asie is the API clear enough yet?
15:32 sfan5 yes
15:32 microcarrot yes
15:32 asie let's do a similar one for XOR
15:32 asie also, i will add two more fields
15:32 asie min_inputs and max_inputs
15:33 microcarrot yay!
15:33 microcarrot #gates
15:34 PenguinDad #torvalds :p
15:34 asie http://paste.ubuntu.com/7399317/
15:34 asie #stallman
15:36 sfan5 this is not twitter
15:36 * Krock tweets
15:37 asie http://paste.ubuntu.com/7399330/ <- NAND gate!
15:37 asie has another function from the API there, too
15:38 Krock horray?
15:38 microcarrot lol
15:38 microcarrot i just registered all of those channels
15:38 microcarrot :P
15:39 microcarrot i have like 20 channels on freenode registered
15:39 PenguinDad I just have seen a rat dying in nyancat rainbows
15:39 microcarrot lol
15:40 microcarrot we should make rainbows have lava physics
15:40 microcarrot they KILL YOU!
15:42 microcarrot gonna make tac nayn
15:42 microcarrot such fucking annoying! http://www.nyan.cat/tacnayn
15:44 Krock microcarrot, minetest needs this.
15:45 microcarrot i'm making
15:45 microcarrot :D
15:45 microcarrot will even have the music, i think
15:45 microcarrot http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/medi​aembed/images/822/4921/original.jpg
15:46 sfan5 https://pp.vk.me/c607929/v60​7929263/624e/K6NMxz0Cj7U.jpg
15:46 microcarrot lol
15:46 microcarrot Dogebear
15:46 microcarrot XD
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15:48 microcarrot "Caution: MEGA's cryptographic security model depends on the confidentiality of the keys displayed above. Avoid transmitting them through insecure channels! "
15:48 * microcarrot thinks of #insecure
15:48 microcarrot :P
15:50 PenguinDad better call it #mega-insecure :þ
15:51 microcarrot lol
15:51 * Krock got 1010 posts, then 1011, then 1100 <-- NOT :(
15:53 Krock Wow..my most active post evaar... a game.
15:54 asie okay
15:54 asie time to rewrite mesegates to allow you to block off sides
16:05 PilzAdam lol, BSD user spotted https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=140637#p140637
16:05 Krock bsd = linux for me
16:06 * PilzAdam replaces Krock's head with a working version
16:06 PilzAdam what did you say?
16:06 * Krock wonders where PilzAdam got it from
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16:06 john_minetest Hey
16:06 Krock hey
16:07 Krock PilzAdam: Krock.Calc(BSD === LINUX) = true
16:07 PilzAdam hmmm.. seems still broken
16:07 Krock lol
16:07 john_minetest Lol, wolframAlpha is the best search engine EVER. Looking up math formula, getting as related result: "lethal dose of caffeine"
16:07 * PilzAdam removes the head
16:08 PilzAdam I'll wait for the tech department to send a working version
16:08 PilzAdam (sfan5 is the tech department)
16:10 microcarrot Ah!
16:10 microcarrot BUG!
16:10 microcarrot no ores are spawning, my fault
16:10 microcarrot i haven't coded it XD
16:10 * Krock needs help. ERROR_HEAD_EXE_NOT_FOUND
16:11 * microcarrot gives Krock my brother's head
16:11 microcarrot *his
16:11 Krock oink oink
16:11 Krock oink
16:11 microcarrot lol
16:11 * Krock takes the head off
16:12 PilzAdam john_minetest, yea sure, lim x->inf (e ^ x) = 0
16:12 * microcarrot gives Krock K_Rock.head.exe
16:12 Krock ~give Krock HEAD_EXE
16:12 ShadowBot Krock: <HEAD_EXE>
16:12 Krock :)
16:13 Krock lol "3) I'm British, what do you expect? Some clever dude from, idk... Switzerland????" -e-arif
16:14 asie okay, i'm almost done adding RP2-esque toggleable input sides to my gates
16:15 john_minetest exe is the stupid windows executable format
16:15 john_minetest ELF is much cooler.
16:15 john_minetest Or even FatELF
16:16 Krock what's ELF?
16:16 john_minetest Executable and Linkable Format.
16:16 Krock ..a binary
16:17 john_minetest Yep. Binary file format on Linux, BSD and many others.
16:17 Krock .COM ftw!
16:17 microcarrot john_minetest: or ObeseELF :P
16:18 Krock old 7.3 ms-dos wise
16:18 microcarrot Krock: .ini FTW
16:18 Krock microcarrot, ini doesn't mean "I'm aNother bInary"
16:19 microcarrot lol
16:19 microcarrot .app FTW
16:19 john_minetest Hardwired FTW
16:19 john_minetest No program can be better than a fat blob of nand arrays and a cpu.
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16:20 Krock Holy, A Rare, Dark Whisky I aRound thE Dolfins
16:20 Krock uh so cretive
16:20 Krock H.A.R.D.W.I.R.E.D
16:20 Krock *Is
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16:23 microcarrot hmm
16:25 microcarrot hmm
16:26 microcarrot https://mega.co.nz/#!aJUBEJTA!LyZdcbI​UHcundV2zAyOxSgKDW_YJoUi2dZg0DHh98A4
16:26 microcarrot ^old mod of mine
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16:30 microcarrot Calinou!
16:30 Calinou hi
16:30 Calinou microcarrot, hello zsoltisawesome.
16:30 * Calinou gives zsoltisawesome a microcarrot
16:30 microcarrot yum
16:32 PenguinDad microcarrot: you forgot the sudo ;)
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16:32 microcarrot lol
16:32 microcarrot sudo yum
16:32 microcarrot amazing: http://youtu.be/hubBBzh_190?t=1m31s
16:33 tuorwork Megaf: hey, i installed it. (debian)
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16:34 microcarrot oh my gosh
16:35 microcarrot http://youtu.be/ZD3O6FFKowI?t=1m11s
16:42 Krock omg hat the co
16:42 Krock w
16:42 Krock http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?t=10s
16:46 microcarrot Bump!
16:46 Krock !Pmub
16:47 microcarrot https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=5305
16:47 Calinou added modified no_guests to Carbone
16:47 Calinou (disallows Guest, Admin and all-numeric names)
16:48 zsoltisawesome_ damn
16:48 Krock Calinou, in hope to get servers with this? :3
16:48 zsoltisawesome_ that name
16:48 zsoltisawesome_ Car Bone
16:48 zsoltisawesome_ XD
16:48 john_minetest GEMA saved me again
16:49 Calinou Krock, server administration should be powerful and fool -proof
16:49 Calinou :P
16:49 Krock john_minetest, srsly? :(
16:49 Calinou john_minetest, play AssaultCube! it has GEMA!
16:49 Calinou </AssaultCube jokes>
16:49 Calinou (“gema” maps are maps where players must do trick jumping in order to finish)
16:49 Calinou it's poorly regarded by the developers
16:49 Calinou so they nerf stuff so that people don't do it, but thankfully, it still exists
16:49 Krock Googl EM All
16:50 zsoltisawesome_ lol
16:51 Krock zsoltisawesome_, which #moontest? there are over 9000 IRC servers
16:51 john_minetest Srsly, I survive 90% of all Astleys because the video isn't aviable in my country.
16:51 lordcirth Krock, there is a #moontest here on freenode
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16:52 Krock lordcirth, ik but it must be DAU compatible
16:52 Calinou DAU?
16:52 asie guys
16:52 asie can I get an award?
16:52 asie http://gfycat.com/PleasantSlowAnteater
16:52 Krock "Dümmster Annzunehmender User" -> Dumbest Acceptable User
16:52 Krock or whatever
16:53 lordcirth asie, the wire disconnects when you hit it, did you make it unregister itself as a mesecons device?
16:53 asie lordcirth: no, i use swap_node and mesecon:update_autoconnect
16:53 lordcirth asie, I think it would work better to only stop the output
16:53 Krock asie, how you do that?
16:53 asie Krock: i made an API that lets you register gates
16:53 Krock with gif-animations
16:53 asie Krock: i use a screen recorder
16:53 zsoltisawesome_ Ah!
16:53 asie then ffmpeg to convert to GIF, then gifsicle to optimize
16:53 asie lordcirth: what do you mean?
16:54 Krock chinese alert
16:54 zsoltisawesome_ hmm?
16:54 asie what I do right now is swap_node, then I run update_autoconnect to update wire connection rendering, then I run the update function which sets the new state if it changed
16:55 asie that's reasonably fast, uses publicly exposed Mesecons APIs and doesn't break anything
16:55 zsoltisawesome_ #asieissmart
16:57 asie http://paste.ubuntu.com/7399764/
16:57 asie this is how the API works for the developer
16:58 asie the rest is taken care of automatically by the library
16:58 zsoltisawesome_ and? or? :P
16:59 asie yes
16:59 asie you can probably derive other examples from this
16:59 asie you also get mesegates:get_input_rules(node) if you need it
16:59 Krock asie, the master meseconer
17:00 asie Krock: i just think mesecons_gates is /really/ horrible
17:00 asie so i made a replacement that (a) is not horrible and (b) is easy to extend
17:00 asie there are two steps in adding a new gate
17:00 Krock ok
17:00 asie 1. create mesegates_[gate name]_on and mesegates_[gate name]_off.png
17:00 asie which are transparent and overlayed on that gray square on top
17:00 asie 2. register_gate in your code
17:00 Krock 3. enjoy
17:01 Krock that are 3 steps
17:01 asie nah
17:01 asie you needn't enjoy.
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17:01 Krock 3. don't enjoy. hate
17:01 Calinou adding xban (and fixed it so that it feels like it's official)
17:02 * Krock likes the windows-like server adress :D
17:02 * Krock likes *.ntdll.*
17:02 asie okay, uh, let me make a quick ZIP of what is mesegates right now
17:02 asie for those of you who want to play with it now
17:02 asie i'll make a github repo once i have more stuff done
17:03 PenguinDad Krock: that *.wow64.* thing is windows too :P
17:03 Calinou world of warcraft 64
17:03 Krock PenguinDad, yes I already saw that WOW thingie...is it something like a emulator?
17:03 asie (the meseblock.lua stuff is unrelated and part of a different tweak which makes P-NAND gates react to mese blocks as if it were an actual signal while not having meseblocks emit signal to wires; it's a part of my old sandbox game's energy system)
17:03 Krock TL;DR
17:03 asie http://asie.pl/mesegates.zip
17:03 asie tl;dr ^
17:07 FreeFull I think I'll download and test it
17:07 FreeFull Any dependencies?
17:08 asie FreeFull: mesecons.
17:08 asie obviously.
17:08 asie http://blog.asie.pl/2014/05​/minetest-status-update-1/
17:08 asie the code only adds a simple OR gate, though
17:08 FreeFull Probably not much point to testing it then
17:08 asie yeah
17:08 asie i will put up a proper version tomorrow, likely
17:09 asie with most of the useful gate types (or/and/xor/not/nand/nor/xnor and a bonus toggle latch)
17:09 VanessaE asie: NAND is the most useful
17:09 VanessaE XOR is considered to be equally so.
17:09 asie VanessaE: All of them are useful if you don't want to bother making gigantic circuits
17:10 VanessaE hah
17:10 VanessaE I read "with" as "which"
17:10 asie there will be 3 mods in the set, really
17:10 VanessaE somehow I interpreted that as a question :)
17:10 asie mesegates (core API), mesegates_default (the gates I mentioned) and mesegates_wirium (my own reimplementation of my old sandbox game's gate, the P-NAND)
17:11 Calinou there, added xban
17:12 asie i wanted to add coloured insulated cables but that might not happen after all
17:12 asie it probably will, though, it's not that much of a pain to add
17:12 VanessaE asie: already done.
17:12 asie VanessaE: in?
17:12 VanessaE nore made a mod that'll do that
17:12 asie ooh
17:12 asie good
17:12 VanessaE look in the issues list, there's a pull there for extra wires that can be trimmed
17:13 VanessaE making even 1-node-apart wires insulated from one another
17:13 asie mesegates mainly needs to have "max_second_param" added
17:13 asie that will add a rightclick-toggleable value
17:13 asie that will be overlaid on top
17:13 asie think, for instance, repeaters
17:13 VanessaE well there *was* a pull
17:13 asie with 4 speed configurations
17:13 VanessaE where is it now...
17:13 Calinou http://blog.asie.pl/2014/05/on-idealism/ → I'm going to rant on your rant ;)
17:13 asie Calinou: haha
17:14 asie someone already did
17:14 asie and i ranted on their rant of my rant
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17:16 crazyR is there a way to make my server use a paticular texture pack without overwriting existing ones
17:17 VanessaE asie:  well I can't find the forum page for it but here's the repo:  https://github.com/Novatux/wires
17:17 VanessaE 100% compatible to mesecons
17:17 Calinou asie, “Therefore, I might just end up modding Minetest with a small community of people who still play it.”. Who “stlll” play it sounds pretty negative here...
17:17 Calinou it sounds like Minetest is abandoned
17:18 asie Calinou: That's true
17:18 asie I should edit that blog post
17:18 Calinou it's getting more and more played, unlike Minecraft which has no proof of such (sales count doesn't increase much?)
17:18 VanessaE asie: there's a "wire cutters" in there.  use it to trim the wires.  These wires can go everywhere.  on block sides, on ceilings, you name it, but they're buggy
17:18 asie Calinou: Minecraft is less and less played
17:18 asie but the community is giant
17:18 Calinou I thought so
17:18 Calinou yeah
17:19 asie it's sad people are calling me a wimp for quitting
17:19 VanessaE asie: once a connection between two neighboring wires is trimmed, the two wires are electrically insulated even if they don't appear to be.
17:19 Calinou I support you on your move to Minetest though :) it's always a better idea to mod free software
17:19 Calinou the Minecraft community is peculiar indeed ;)
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17:20 VanessaE I'll second Calinou's support.  better to be here than with Minecraft :)
17:20 asie Calinou: I fought for free software in the Minecraft community
17:20 asie :P
17:20 asie For months
17:20 asie my greatest success is making people unaware of "default copyright" aware of it
17:21 asie and making their mods formally open
17:21 asie "Me moving to modding Minetest is not yet definite… I’m trying to look into the tools I have available - the Lua API isn’t bad, but I still wish I could move on and create my own game. The problem with that is I lack motivation. Therefore, I’ll just keep modding Minetest with their small, dedicated community of players and modders. It makes me feel a lot happier than engaging in weeks of drama just to get a modpack done, and then
17:21 asie being told your modpack sucks and will never be playable just because its vision revolves not around gameplay, but around fairness."
17:21 Calinou <asie> Calinou: I fought for free software in the Minecraft community
17:21 Calinou this is like fighting for being vegetarian at a KFC
17:21 asie http://blog.asie.pl/2014/0​4/on-open-source-modding/
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17:22 asie this post changed quite a few people's opinions on free software modding
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17:22 Calinou would be nice if more Minecraft texture packs were free, this is actually very rare
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17:23 Calinou but anyway, it's not common to see a Minecraft modder moving to Minetest :)
17:23 Calinou give it a few years, and we'll have an ex-Mojangsta here. ;)
17:23 asie Calinou: The Painterly pack is permissive
17:23 asie it's not offically free, but it gives out permissions like crazy
17:23 asie a few mods have just taken textures from them
17:23 asie I am considering talking to their team about it
17:24 Calinou getting permission is one thing, ability to do things without asking is another
17:24 Calinou (remember that “NC” and “ND” clauses are not free – the term “semi-free” also doesn't exist currently)
17:24 Calinou I just read some pastebin you posted on your blog
17:25 Calinou “[01:06] <Grum> also opensource doesnt mean 'flawless' -- remember heartbleed?”
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17:25 asie Calinou: If not for OpenSSL being open-source
17:25 Calinou that's desolating
17:25 asie we wouldn't have known
17:25 asie it was found literally by a bored Google engineer reading the code, IIRC
17:25 asie and then Google told CloudFlare
17:25 CraigyDavi hello everyone
17:25 Calinou hey, this is Mojang were Dinnerbone defends obfuscation: “for performance reasons”
17:25 Calinou (talked to him a few times about that)
17:25 asie yeah
17:25 VanessaE hi CraigyDavi
17:26 asie Calinou: I am aware
17:26 asie and I wanted to ask them to put it under an open license
17:26 VanessaE Calinou: seriously? O_o
17:26 asie my friend actually tried to coax me into making a paid Minetest server for the Polish Minecraft community
17:26 asie but I refused
17:26 asie ugh
17:26 asie i'm making all of my mods free
17:26 asie VanessaE: Seriously.
17:26 PenguinDad asie: seriously!
17:27 asie PenguinDad: Serious levels of seriously there
17:27 Calinou “[01:35] <Grum> or at least something with a fucking shell on it >.>” → Windows has a shell, Mr. Grum
17:27 asie also
17:27 asie Grum literally said that a linear search over all tile entities in Minecraft is fine
17:27 Calinou VanessaE, yeah, I don't have logs though
17:27 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Move message about missing normal maps to infostream instead of errorstream. c80d67f48e 2014-05-05T19:25:18+02:00 http://git.io/wScTLA
17:27 asie because *MOJANG* uses TEs sparingly
17:27 asie and *only* Mojang does so
17:27 Calinou he used to be in #minecraft channels, like other Mojangstas
17:28 asie yes
17:28 asie then they moved to #mojang
17:28 asie it was an insider channel back in 2010-2011
17:28 asie i belonged there
17:28 asie had some nice talks with jeb
17:28 Calinou #mojang          1       To claim this channel as an official member of mojang, please leave me a memo via memoserv.
17:28 asie no, on EsperNet
17:28 asie i would actually go as far to say as jeb is one of the sanest people at Mojang
17:28 asie he's also the only one adding new features to Minecraft per Grum's words
17:28 Calinou I indirectly suggested something to jeb_ (someone else did it for me), it got in the game
17:28 asie yes
17:29 asie jeb is really a sane and nice guy, shame the other guys ruin it for him and that he spends most of his time on Minecraft PE
17:29 Calinou it was nice, but that particular feature was removed in 12
17:29 Calinou it was seed visibily in debug screen
17:29 Calinou 1.2*
17:29 Calinou :P
17:29 asie they removed it due to server owner complaints IIRC
17:29 Calinou yeah
17:29 Calinou I have yet to see xrayers on Minetest 8)
17:29 asie I have yet to see quarries on Minetest
17:29 asie and, frankly, quarries in Minetest scare me
17:29 Calinou used to be possible with minetest.conf setting (invisible_stone = true), but no longer since 0.4
17:29 Calinou I've done quarry mining a bit, but that's inefficient
17:29 asie no
17:30 asie i mean in minetest
17:30 Calinou doing a real branch mine is way better
17:30 lordcirth asie, technic is working hard on automated quarries :)
17:30 asie infinite height
17:30 asie and quarries
17:30 Calinou a quarry that goes to -31000? ah, never ;)
17:30 asie and... infinite height
17:30 asie and quarries!
17:30 * Calinou continues reading log
17:31 Calinou Grum blunders and blunders, every minute
17:31 asie Grum is an idealist
17:31 asie like me
17:31 asie only his ideals are different
17:31 asie he believes in, hm, a cathedral
17:31 Calinou he sounds very negative
17:31 asie and I believe in a bazaar
17:31 asie if you get the analogy
17:31 Calinou it's not even believing in a cathedral at this point
17:31 Calinou it's Mojang-powered stupidity like I've already seen
17:32 Calinou let's not argue too much about it though; it's not worth it and I'd rather develop stuff in Carbone a bit
17:32 asie Yeah
17:32 asie I'm working on asietest_game, slowly
17:32 Calinou I had a weird hoverboard idea
17:32 asie the gates are an addon because I won't really use them; my game is going to be powered by my old sandbox game's wire system
17:32 asie but I abstracted it out to (a) clean up the code and (b) give the community something many always wanted
17:32 asie it's probably going to end up in technic very soon, too
17:32 asie i also plan to add bundled cables, eventually... if i figure out how
17:32 Calinou giving stuff the community wants is a good thing, but you should think by yourself too
17:33 Calinou this is how I design my mods :p
17:33 Calinou cool stuff, but it tries to be useful at the same time
17:33 asie yes, i did both
17:33 asie that's why mesegates is an API
17:33 asie there will be two reference implementations
17:33 whiskers75 Calinou: ohai
17:33 asie one that mimics RP2 (many gates) and one that mimics my old sandbox game (one versalite gate)
17:33 Calinou More Blocks was quite bad initially, now it's much better thanks to many rewrites by community people
17:34 whiskers75 Calinou: add technic to carbone?
17:34 asie \
17:34 asie \
17:34 asie whoops
17:34 asie also, one thing nice about mesegates - it only registers the possible connection/on/off combinations
17:34 Calinou moreblocks is only 1439 lines of code
17:34 asie mesegates is only 130 for the API alone
17:34 Calinou (TIL how to measure line count in a directory: wc *)
17:34 asie roughly
17:34 Calinou whiskers75, too complex
17:34 asie also yeah that's why i'm not adding technic either
17:35 Calinou it's also not much of an use for most people
17:35 asie i am adding pipeworks but for items only
17:35 asie \]
17:35 asie ugh
17:35 Calinou you can it by yourself, the point of Carbone is not to make modding useless :)
17:35 Calinou you can add it*
17:35 asie the point of my game is to create an enjoyable gameplay experience
17:35 asie trying to have a bit of everything
17:35 Calinou me too, but complex/slow/heavy/uncommon stuff stays in the modding area
17:35 asie so, if you can't understand it in 15 seconds, it's not in your pack? :P
17:36 whiskers75 Calinou: add mesecons
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17:36 Calinou asie, yeah, quite a bit
17:36 Calinou whiskers75, same reason: too complex and slow
17:36 whiskers75 >mesecons
17:36 whiskers75 >complex
17:36 asie Calinou: do what I did and add a tiny bit of mesecons
17:36 whiskers75 >slow
17:36 Calinou mesecon bugs can have dramatic consequences, too :P
17:36 asie I removed about 1/4th of the mod for my pack
17:36 whiskers75 yeah
17:36 Calinou I'd be OK with a tiny bit of mesecons (buttons/levers to open doors, with wires)
17:36 whiskers75 you don't need the MCUs
17:36 Calinou but nothing more
17:36 asie Calinou: mesecons is very modular
17:36 whiskers75 Calinou: Id like that too
17:36 asie just take mesecons and mesecons_walllevers
17:36 Calinou I'd probably need hours to implement that
17:37 asie and mesecons_button
17:37 asie like this! https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/
17:37 asie also mesegates [/shameless_selfinsert]
17:37 Calinou command block is very useful, but error-prone :/
17:37 whiskers75 don't use it then
17:37 Calinou if it's only usable by admins, then it's fine
17:37 asie Calinou: them remove it
17:37 asie that's how mesecons works
17:38 Calinou (I think by default that only admins can use them anyway)
17:38 asie (yes)
17:38 Calinou I'll look a bit at mesecons
17:38 crazyR ive never been able to get command blcoks to work
17:38 asie well
17:38 asie mesecons alone adds wires
17:38 asie then each part adds the thing that's after the _
17:38 asie some less obvious ones: _compatibility adds support for doors, _extrawires adds insulated wires
17:38 crazyR when ever set the command it keeps telling me its still unconfigured
17:39 asie _powerplant is actually just a constant 1, _blinkyplant is a timer, _solarpanel is a daylight sensor and _hydroturbine is a water sensor
17:39 asie that's about it from the confusing stuff
17:39 Calinou oh, moreblocks is more than 1439 lines of code, I forgot sub-directories
17:40 Calinou I'm fine with most sensors
17:40 Calinou what I don't want is potential slowness
17:40 asie mesecons is rather well-written
17:40 asie at least the wires
17:40 asie and my gates try to be optimized to cause little lag as well
17:40 Calinou are pistons slow?
17:40 asie no, but moveblocks are quite buggy
17:41 Calinou what's the different between microcontroller and luacontroller?
17:41 crazyR asie any alternative ideas for a blinky plant with less lag?
17:41 asie microcontroller has a custom language
17:41 asie crazyR: i will be working on a timer gate, likely
17:42 asie Calinou: from what i heard about your design plans, don't use either controller
17:42 Calinou so if I want faster mesecons, I remove movestones, blinkyplants and controller stuff?
17:42 asie Calinou: I think you should think in terms of what you want and not what you don't want
17:42 asie player detectors are probably rather laggy, for instance
17:42 Calinou I'll rename the directories to .<modname> so that they can be enabled easily
17:42 Calinou OK
17:42 crazyR blinkyplants are a huge lag cause. but without them alot of automated machines wont be possible, without messing with gates
17:42 Calinou (keep the files, but as dotfiles, since they aren't loaded)
17:42 asie IMO you want mesecons, mesecons_pistons, mesecons_mvps (required API for pistons), mesecons_button, mesecons_walllever, mesecons_powerplant and when I'm done mesegates
17:43 asie and perhaps things like mesecons_solarpanel
17:43 Calinou mesecons_torch looks useful too
17:43 Calinou (toggleable torches, IIRC)
17:43 asie i think it's a redstone torch reimplementation
17:43 CraigyDavi Ermmm someone seems to have made it look like they have 514 players online when they only have 14 players online.
17:43 Calinou these torches are gray or white
17:43 Calinou looks like a light source
17:43 CraigyDavi They are the top of servers.minetest.net
17:43 Calinou CraigyDavi, yeah, being dealt with
17:44 Calinou (but not so quickly)
17:44 Calinou master ban is a possible solution...
17:44 Calinou if they refuse to not fake their player counts, make them not able to announce
17:44 Calinou or having a bot that scans player counts (but would cause chat spam and useless bandwidth usage)
17:44 CraigyDavi Ah I never knew you could ban people from the server list
17:44 Calinou you can't
17:45 Calinou this was a suggestion :P
17:45 CraigyDavi Oh
17:45 Calinou some other games allow doing that, like Sauerbraten or Red Eclipse: these go further, because a player can be banned from all servers which appear on the list and some people have privileges everywhere
17:45 Calinou I don't agree much with the latter, because you're not allowed to opt-out (at least in these two games)
17:46 zsoltisawesome_ Calinou: how is Red Ecplise?
17:46 markveidemanis zsoltisawesome_, Is ZNC not working?
17:47 zsoltisawesome_ i can connect to other IRC server with this client without writing a JS plugin
17:47 Calinou what is the difference between mesecon switch and mesecon lever, asie?
17:47 zsoltisawesome_ :P
17:47 Calinou other than cosmetics
17:47 asie Calinou: I think none :P
17:47 Calinou zsoltisawesome_, http://redeclipse.net
17:47 Calinou so I'll remove switch then
17:47 Calinou it's uglier :p
17:47 Calinou (well, I'll think this about this one, actually)
17:47 Calinou having a full node as a switch can have some use
17:48 asie okay, added the 7 main gates as well as a diode
17:48 asie now i just need to make textures for them in a sec
17:48 Calinou luacontroller, movestones, noteblock, microcontroller, detector, blinkyplant disabled
17:48 Calinou whiskers75, anyway, I'm still unlikely to add technic because it makes the game too complex
17:48 Calinou basic mesecon functionality is nice and can do nice things
17:49 Calinou Mesecon wires make for good christmas decoration ;)
17:49 asie disable lamp and lightstone as they're very ugly, same for gates
17:49 asie as i'm almost done with a superior version of gates
17:49 asie and will work on a superior version of lamp :)
17:49 Calinou I could come with a better texture, but let me see for now
17:49 asie for lamp, i will be using RedLogic's textures
17:50 asie they're free textures and free as in freedom
17:50 asie (RedLogic is a FOSS clone of RP2 Wiring/Logic)
17:50 asie i will also add an option to support unifieddyes for lamps because why not
17:53 Calinou I thought Mesecon code was more complicated than that.
17:54 asie it's really rather simple
17:56 zsoltisawesome_ Calinou: you should look before you assume
17:57 asie i'm halfway through doing the gate textures
18:01 Calinou There are 2000 registered nodes, items and tools.
18:01 Calinou :D
18:01 asie okay, i finished adding the basic gates
18:03 Krock Calinou, for i = 0, 9999 do minetest.registered_nodes["mod:test_"..i] = LOL :)
18:04 asie http://i.imgur.com/EL243BP.png
18:04 asie how does that look?
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18:05 Krock looks like a soundcard memory overflow
18:05 asie ;_;
18:05 asie possibly
18:06 Krock and..it's dirty
18:06 Calinou I'd like an improvement of the /give command which scans all mods and tries to /give an item of that mod
18:06 VanessaE Calinou: only 2000?  you got a ways to go to meet up with Dreambuilder ;)
18:06 Calinou to make specfying a modname useless
18:06 Calinou (= much faster to do /give commands)
18:06 Calinou (alias abuse lengthens load time)
18:07 Calinou and they need to be kept up to date
18:07 Krock Calinou, how about unified_inventory with /grant creative?
18:07 Krock no need to chat then
18:07 Calinou unified_inventory is complex and ugly :'(
18:07 VanessaE Calinou: oh I'm reminded:  check your groups settings on the admin pick (with drops), there's still some stuff it doesn't instantly dig, unknown nodes being one of them
18:07 Calinou also, creative doesn't have items which are not shown in the inventory
18:07 VanessaE er dig properties.  whatever it's called for tools
18:08 Calinou VanessaE, I don't think it's possible to make unknown node digging instant with the “drops” one
18:08 Calinou I think the time is enforced for all tools...
18:08 VanessaE there are a few other nodes I've noticed that behave this way also, but I can't remember what they are now
18:12 asie http://i.imgur.com/CJxteJY.png
18:13 asie made the output/input sides a tad more visible
18:14 * sfan5 throws a kitten at PilzAdam
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18:16 * microcarrot throws an orange at sfan5
18:17 Calinou add some noise and shading to the top
18:17 * sfan5 flips microcarrot
18:17 Calinou (well, on all sides)
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18:18 * Calinou gives sfan5 a luacarrot
18:18 Calinou *** Server shutting down
18:18 * sfan5 noms it
18:18 Calinou </luacontroller jokes>
18:21 VanessaE hm, anyone else having a problem with the front-side texture on the wield for shared, locked furnace?
18:21 VanessaE (it's ok in-world but in-hand and in-inventory, the front shows a distorted, scaled-down image of the animated furnace front)
18:21 Calinou default_furnace_lock.png and default_furnace_lock_active.png
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18:21 Calinou textures used in Carbone for locked furnace ^
18:22 Calinou there are no locked furnaces in the default game
18:23 VanessaE hm I take it back, doesn't work in-world either
18:23 VanessaE (I didn't turn it "on" before)
18:23 VanessaE I'm referring to Sokomine's Locks mod btw
18:23 Calinou ah
18:23 Calinou anyway, you could add HDX textures for my furnaces :p
18:24 Calinou it probably requires just a copy + rename
18:24 VanessaE what's the new names for yours?
18:24 VanessaE or as above?
18:24 VanessaE (sokomine's mod doesn't require explicit HDX support)
18:25 asie https://github.com/asiekierka/mesegates
18:25 asie and it's finally up!
18:25 CraigyDavi I seem to have convinced the owner of the server which had 500 players to fix the problem.
18:25 asie https://github.com/asiekierka/meseg​ates/blob/master/mesegates/init.lua <- this is the API
18:25 VanessaE this is an OOOLLLLLLLDDDD bug in the engine, it's not properly handling the case of overlaying a static one-frame image on top of an animation
18:27 VanessaE (it's using the pipeworks API to overlay the tube "entry fitting" image onto the front of the furnace)
18:28 VanessaE (this doesn't work with animations because of that engine bug  I didn't do this with default furnaces because it looks wrong)
18:31 asie that gate system is just so much fun
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18:34 asie is it time to make a forum thread yet?
18:35 nore VanessaE, btw: there is no forum thread for my wires mod...
18:36 VanessaE you should make one :)
18:37 nore I don't think it is important enough for that (as is my computer mod...)
18:37 asie the wires mod? it is far superior to the insulated wires we have now . . .
18:38 nore I might do some big mesecons-like mod someday... (maybe I should do something with asie?)
18:38 nore asie, thanks
18:38 asie nore: i am committed to keeping mesecons compatibility
18:38 asie but the mesecons API is fairly good and high-level
18:38 nore that's a good idea
18:38 asie so it can be replaced while keeping mods compatible
18:38 nore mesecons compatibility is always something important to keep in mind
18:39 asie mesegates is a first step... tomorrow i will use the third digit i have left in the gate definition
18:39 nore which is?
18:39 Calinou VanessaE, I just told them
18:39 asie right now it's forced to 0
18:39 asie but later it will store information for those things which need visible visual output of their setup
18:39 asie such as repeaters
18:39 Calinou default_furnace_lock.png
18:39 Calinou default_furnace_lock_active.png (can be animated)
18:39 asie and... mostly repeaters
18:39 asie maybe counters, too
18:39 VanessaE Calinou: oh derp
18:40 VanessaE Calinou: send me a forum PM and I'll get on those a bit later on
18:41 Calinou <asie> is it time to make a forum thread yet?
18:41 Calinou yeah, you can
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18:47 zsoltisawesome Mega F
18:47 Megaf Me
18:48 zsoltisawesome Yes
18:49 Krock YOU
18:49 * Calinou renames Megaf to Tinyf
18:49 zsoltisawesome *Nanof
18:50 zsoltisawesome what the hell happened to Zeg9?
18:50 * Krock renames Megaf to Yougaf
18:50 Megaf heh
18:51 Megaf There you go
18:51 Krock zsoltisnotawesome, what happened?
18:54 Krock zsoltisnotawesome!
18:54 Krock hey!
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18:55 Megaf ho!
18:55 zsoltisawesome http://a.veryviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/​05/funny-chinese-sign-translation-fails-10.jpg
18:55 zsoltisawesome lol
18:57 CraigyDavi haha
18:58 zsoltisawesome yes
18:58 zsoltisawesome http://a.veryviral.com/wp-conte​nt/uploads/2014/05/O4uPYfj.jpg
18:59 CraigyDavi Tiny grass is dreaming? Whaaaa
19:00 zsoltisawesome kik
19:00 Krock kik
19:00 Krock lol
19:01 Krock http://a.veryviral.com/wp-conte​nt/uploads/2014/05/SO1v2TK.jpg
19:01 Krock xd
19:02 CraigyDavi o_O
19:02 Amaz_ Interesting...
19:02 Calinou veryviral.com is from pastebin.com
19:02 zsoltisawesome yes
19:02 * Calinou is now using LevelDB for his singleplayer worlds
19:02 Krock really?
19:03 * sfan5 meows at Calinou
19:03 Calinou it feels the same
19:03 Krock Calinou, nice privilege
19:03 Calinou (I didn't migrate, so old stuff is gone :P)
19:03 Calinou (there was almost nothing in the world)
19:03 Krock #sfan5'sbuildsarecorrupted
19:03 Calinou but the few torches I placed were gone
19:03 sfan5 Krock: don't use Windows XP, problem solved
19:03 sfan5 you can also try to download a random leveldb dll from the internet and see if it works
19:03 Krock sfan5, err... my server is running on vista and can reproduce it too
19:04 sfan5 then don't use windows
19:04 * Krock haddesks
19:04 * Krock headdesks
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19:04 * PenguinDad slaps Krock with Debian
19:04 Krock again?
19:04 Calinou gotta love cave entrances in Minetest
19:05 Calinou the mix of grass and stone going down looks so scary, when you think about the potential mobs
19:05 Calinou but you still know you're supposedly safe above -15 ;)
19:05 Krock sfan5, why do you privide win32 builds if you don't like windows? /justinterest
19:05 Krock *provide
19:06 sfan5 because many people use windows
19:06 Calinou it's an useful service
19:06 sfan5 and with buildbot.sh it is just ./buildmtwin32.sh & ./buildmtwin64.sh for me
19:06 Krock ok.
19:06 Megaf sfan5: That easy?
19:06 sfan5 yes
19:06 sfan5 it even uploads it for me
19:07 Jordach Calinou, worse
19:07 Megaf sfan5: And what about requisites? (I dont know how to spell that)
19:07 Jordach mobs now have greater than player health and do like 4x the damage they used to do
19:07 Calinou lots of libraries have to be installed by hand
19:07 Calinou Jordach, yeah, to take armour and eating into account
19:07 sfan5 Megaf: they are automatically downloaded if not alread present
19:07 Jordach Calinou, BFD has 0 ARMOUR.
19:07 Calinou and bows
19:07 zsoltisawesome that sucks
19:08 Krock ahah http://a.veryviral.com/wp-cont​ent/uploads/2014/05/ep3gv.jpg
19:08 Jordach Calinou, i did steal your bows
19:08 Jordach s/steal/borrow/
19:08 Jordach gah
19:08 zsoltisawesome You know what else BFD is missing?
19:08 sfan5 kittens
19:08 Krock ^
19:08 zsoltisawesome ^
19:08 Jordach this updated realtek driver is shit
19:08 Krock ^
19:09 zsoltisawesome ^
19:09 PenguinDad Kittens!
19:09 Krock ^
19:09 Krock was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
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19:09 zsoltisawesome ^
19:09 zsoltisawesome was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
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19:09 Krock LOL
19:09 PenguinDad ^
19:09 zsoltisawesome indeed
19:09 zsoltisawesome ^
19:09 Krock ^ exactly
19:09 PenguinDad ^ for sure
19:09 Krock ^yeah
19:09 sfan5 Krock, zsoltisawesome: auto-rejoin can get you banned quickly in many channels, I'd advise you to turn it off
19:09 Krock sfan5, we know.
19:10 zsoltisawesome yes
19:10 Krock But I can't turn off this feature
19:10 sfan5 lolwut
19:10 sfan5 you can
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19:10 zsoltisawesome get a different client
19:10 sfan5 I guarantee you
19:10 Krock wait
19:10 sfan5 or do that..
19:10 Krock I done it
19:10 * sfan5 meows at asie
19:10 PenguinDad Krock: use a better client
19:10 Jordach hey asie
19:10 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap
19:10 * Jordach purrs
19:10 * asie nyans at sfan5
19:10 * sfan5 meows
19:10 Krock sfan5, after I had a german overwied it sudednly appeared..lol
19:10 Krock *overview
19:11 * sfan5 throws 猫 formed cake at asie
19:12 * PenguinDad squawks at asie
19:12 jordan4ibanez If only C55 were here.
19:12 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/EIgzfiFOTwY
19:12 sfan5 zsoltisawesome:
19:12 sfan5 * microcarrot has quit (Quit: アイ アム Zsolt)
19:12 sfan5 this is not how katakana work
19:12 zsoltisawesome you but dots
19:12 zsoltisawesome *put
19:12 sfan5 you cannot translate whole english sentences into katakna
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19:12 sfan5 katakana*
19:13 sfan5 katakana is for single words
19:13 sfan5 !title
19:13 MinetestBot sfan5: Best of finnish rally crashes 2013 by JPeltsi - YouTube
19:13 zsoltisawesome whatr?
19:13 Jordach_ thank you AMD for fucking with my Realtek drivers
19:13 Megaf Jordach_: what?
19:13 Megaf How?
19:13 sfan5 zsoltisawesome: short answer: "アイ アム Zsolt" is random gibberish because it does not work like that
19:14 Megaf ~title
19:14 ShadowBot Megaf: Best of finnish rally crashes 2013 by JPeltsi - YouTube
19:14 sfan5 Megaf: y u no trust MinetestBot?
19:14 zsoltisawesome https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/%E3%8​2%A2%E3%82%A4%20%E3%82%A2%E3%83%A0%20Zsolt
19:14 Krock its ignore list is too long
19:14 Megaf Just in case
19:15 sfan5 zsoltisawesome: that means nothing
19:15 zsoltisawesome meh
19:15 Megaf !title
19:15 MinetestBot Megaf: Google Translate
19:15 Megaf ~title
19:16 ShadowBot Megaf: Google Translate
19:16 zsoltisawesome you idiot
19:16 Megaf YOu don't say
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19:16 zsoltisawesome Jordach!
19:16 sfan5 katakana is used for nouns, you can't simply put english sentences into katakana (you can, but it makes no sense)
19:16 Megaf Jordach: Hi, What's going on with your drivers?
19:16 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
19:16 sfan5 damnit
19:17 sfan5 I think Jordach should stop using windows
19:17 zsoltisawesome lol
19:17 zsoltisawesome I think you should start using Windows
19:17 sfan5 no u
19:17 * Megaf thinks windows is the best thing eva!
19:17 * sfan5 slaps Megaf
19:17 * lordcirth slaps Megaf harder
19:18 * zsoltisawesome slaps sfan5 for slaping Megaf
19:18 * Megaf thinks windows is the best thing eva! I made much money fixing windows computers
19:18 lordcirth rofl
19:18 * sfan5 purrs at Megaf
19:18 * zsoltisawesome slaps lordcirth for slaping Megaf
19:18 * sfan5 flips zsoltisawesome
19:18 Megaf and in some of them I installed Debian
19:18 * lordcirth slaps everybody for no particular reason
19:18 * zsoltisawesome slaps sfan5 for slaping him
19:18 Megaf That includes my girlfriends laptop and my grandmas desktop
19:18 * zsoltisawesome defends
19:19 Megaf Ok, enough of slaping
19:19 zsoltisawesome Megaf: Are you CRAZY?!?!
19:19 * sfan5 flips zsoltisawesome
19:19 zsoltisawesome Debian!?!?!
19:19 sfan5 :O
19:19 Megaf yep
19:19 Megaf whats the problem?
19:19 Megaf It just works
19:19 sfan5 someone actually made an android port and published the source: https://github.com/gameabc/worldcraft
19:19 zsoltisawesome O:
19:20 PenguinDad much free, very port, wow
19:20 lordcirth Megaf, debian with gnome 3?
19:20 zsoltisawesome we have been wasting our time?
19:20 Megaf lordcirth: indeed
19:20 zsoltisawesome gnome 3 is better than Unity
19:20 zsoltisawesome :X
19:20 Jordach joined #minetest
19:21 * Megaf agrees with zsoltisawesome
19:21 Amaz_ sfan5: Is that a first?!
19:21 Megaf Countdown for Jordach timeout
19:21 Megaf 30
19:21 Jordach nope.avi
19:21 Amaz_ I mean the source code being published by a non community member.
19:21 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap
19:21 * lordcirth doesn't like Unity or Gnome Shell very much
19:22 Jordach Megaf, i updated my audio drivers via AMD and it fucked up the amplified audio settings
19:22 Megaf lordcirth: GNOME 3 is actually quite cool for the end user
19:22 Megaf Jordach: if you have a realtek thing, use realtek drivers
19:22 lordcirth Megaf, I like Pinguy and Trisquel's Gnome 3 configs
19:22 Jordach and that explains everythig
19:22 Megaf lordcirth: end http://extensions.gnome.org are pretty neat
19:23 Jordach headset was in the wrong fucking mode
19:23 lordcirth But I really don't get Debian's default version
19:23 Megaf Jordach: you should be timing out by now
19:23 Megaf congrats
19:23 Jordach Megaf, nope
19:23 Megaf 16:22 < Jordach> and that explains everythig
19:23 Megaf so, not actually AMDs fault?
19:24 Megaf 16:23 < Jordach> headset was in the wrong fucking mode
19:24 Megaf !title
19:24 MinetestBot Megaf: GNOME Shell Extensions
19:25 Jordach sfan5, attempt to compile worldcraft
19:25 Calinou sfan5, no license.
19:26 Calinou this is a minefield, be careful
19:26 Calinou also they're all new: https://github.com/gameabc
19:26 sfan5 Calinou: they say on their google play page LGPL; you can't use a DMCA against them now
19:26 sfan5 Jordach: no u
19:26 Calinou they should still add it to GitHub repo
19:26 Jordach sfan5, 1) not Linux based
19:26 sfan5 Jordach, cygwin
19:26 Jordach 2) find me a CD-R and i'll install fuckin Debian#
19:27 Jordach 3) I'll have a quick look :O
19:27 sfan5 go to <nearest supermarket>, they have some
19:27 lordcirth Jordach, you don't have a USB, or Virtualbox?
19:27 Megaf There are several worldcraft games on google play
19:27 harrison Some users may experience seizures.
19:27 zsoltisawesome lol
19:28 zsoltisawesome "some users will experience chronic headdesking"
19:28 zsoltisawesome :P
19:29 harrison Signs of withdrawal include minor laziness, mild depression, nightmares, and slight tremor.
19:29 PenguinDad more users experienced seizures while trying to install gentoo :P
19:29 zsoltisawesome haha
19:29 harrison step right up ladies and gentoos!
19:29 zsoltisawesome i installed gentooX on my X-Box
19:30 zsoltisawesome no seizure
19:30 zsoltisawesome XD
19:30 Megaf Jordach: I could be your guide to the Linux world if you are interested
19:30 Jordach pfft
19:31 * PenguinDad gives Megaf a cookie
19:31 sfan5 Jordach: <sfan5>30 go to <nearest supermarket>, they have some
19:31 * zsoltisawesome wants a cookie
19:31 sfan5 also: linux mint is way nicer than debian
19:31 * Megaf takes a cooke
19:31 * sfan5 taps zsoltisawesome
19:31 Megaf hm, delicious
19:31 * sfan5 goes find cookies
19:31 * zsoltisawesome asks why he got tapped
19:32 zsoltisawesome by sfan5
19:32 sfan5 because にゃん
19:33 sfan5 *irc stats updated*
19:33 zsoltisawesome :(
19:33 zsoltisawesome nyan is haunting me
19:33 Jordach let's hope this works :)
19:33 Jordach (found a flash drive, totally forgot i have flash pens now)
19:34 sfan5 18MinetestBot6387434533215​83262today"john_minetest: yeah, sure, whatever"
19:34 zsoltisawesome lol
19:34 sfan5 Jordach: hao mani GBz?
19:34 Jordach \o/ open source bootable flash pen maker
19:34 Jordach http://rufus.akeo.ie/
19:34 * sfan5 hopes Jordach understands broken english
19:34 Jordach sfan5, 2gb iso is ~1gb
19:35 zsoltisawesome ireland?
19:35 sfan5 Jordach: take a look at win32diskimager
19:35 Megaf 16:31 < sfan5> also: linux mint is way nicer than debian
19:35 Megaf There's a Debian based Linux Mint :)
19:35 Calinou I've never tried Rufus, but it looks good
19:35 Calinou Linux Bint.
19:35 Calinou really: use an /official/ Ubuntu derivative
19:36 Calinou Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Xubuntu all welcome you arms open
19:36 Megaf Any Irish here?
19:36 * sfan5 throws Xubuntu at Calinou
19:36 Calinou yeah
19:36 Calinou Linux Mint has tons of issues
19:36 Jordach interesting fact: this flash pen went through the wash so it probably won't last
19:36 zsoltisawesome Calinou: YOU have tons of issues
19:36 sfan5 >sfan5 can't control his/her aggressions, either. He/She picked on others 19 times.
19:36 Megaf Calinou: what do you expect from something that is based on Ubuntu?
19:36 sfan5 >sfan5 seems to be unliked too. He/She got beaten 19 times.
19:36 sfan5 19,19 :D
19:36 zsoltisawesome lol
19:36 * Jordach slaps sfan5
19:36 Jordach nope.avi
19:36 * sfan5 slaps Jordach
19:36 Jordach not anymore.
19:36 * Jordach slaps sfan5
19:36 sfan5 :D
19:36 * sfan5 slaps Jordach
19:37 Jordach everyone slap sfan5
19:37 zsoltisawesome 21,21
19:37 * Megaf grab popcorn
19:37 Jordach bbl
19:37 * PenguinDad slaps sfan5
19:37 * sfan5 slaps PenguinDad
19:37 * zsoltisawesome slaps Megaf
19:37 * CraigyDavi slaps CraigyDavi
19:37 * zsoltisawesome slaps PenguinDad
19:37 * sfan5 meows
19:37 * PenguinDad slaps zsoltisawesome
19:37 * zsoltisawesome slaps CraigyDavi
19:37 zsoltisawesome was kicked by ShadowBot: Slap flood detected.
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19:37 PenguinDad :D
19:37 * CraigyDavi slaps zsoltisawesome
19:38 Calinou gotta like Rufus developer's stance on donation
19:38 zsoltisawesome what?
19:38 * Megaf slaps ShadowBot
19:38 Megaf Whos your god now?
19:38 Megaf where is he?
19:38 Megaf pff
19:38 * Megaf hides
19:39 * zsoltisawesome unhides Megaf
19:40 Megaf lol, I can only look to the sky in buildcraft
19:40 jin_xi so, painting mod v1.0 soon to be ready i think
19:40 Megaf cant move "camera"
19:41 jin_xi http://i.imgur.com/eAynyoN.png examples of 16x paintings
19:41 Calinou meh, 16× paintings are ugly
19:41 Calinou (generally)
19:41 Calinou oh, this is the mod where you paint those by yourself
19:41 Calinou then they're nice :D
19:41 jin_xi bigger ones are hard to do
19:41 jin_xi it goes to 64x tho
19:42 jin_xi but needs a lot of patience
19:42 Megaf jin_xi: well done
19:42 Megaf jin_xi: you would like my pixel art server
19:42 Megaf Im making a Sonic at the moment
19:42 jin_xi so i wonder what to add to it. maybe a photocopier so you can have multiple copies of paintings
19:43 jin_xi or some sort of enlarging thingy to make it easier to do the bigger canvases by scaling up
19:43 Calinou “On the first day, Megaf built a Sonic. On the second day, Megaf built a Megaman. On the third party, Megaf built a pony. That's it: he did the same thing as dozens of Minetest players.“
19:43 Calinou third day*
19:43 Calinou lol “third party”
19:43 zsoltisawesome lol
19:43 PenguinDad plol
19:43 zsoltisawesome pplol
19:44 Megaf Calinou: What should I build then, a Tux?
19:44 Megaf And BTW, that's actually a neat idea
19:44 Tux[Qyou] most likely
19:44 Tux[Qyou] don't you think, calinou
19:45 Calinou build a Tux[Qyou] indeed.
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19:47 PenguinDad The Tux
19:47 Megaf The Penguin
19:47 Megaf Much bird
19:48 PenguinDad many water
19:48 Megaf very ice
19:49 PenguinDad wow
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19:49 asie license choices again
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19:50 asie i wanted to pick MIT like I usually do but then I heard this caused problems over here in the past
19:50 zsoltisawesome will somebody host a moontest server?
19:50 zsoltisawesome use LGPL, thats what i usually use
19:50 zsoltisawesome or WTFPL
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19:50 asie I'd rather use MIT than WTFPL
19:50 PenguinDad how would MIT cause problems?
19:50 asie PenguinDad: I heard someone wanted to sell Minetest over here
19:50 * Megaf has its own license
19:51 Megaf but I dont remember it
19:51 EvergreenTree WTFPL is barely a license.  It just means people can do whatever the f*ck they want with it
19:51 PenguinDad asie: how about zlib/libpng?
19:51 EvergreenTree I would rather use CC0 if I wanted that
19:51 asie zlib is nice
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19:52 zsoltisawesome EvergreenTree: been proved in court :P
19:52 EvergreenTree What has been proved in court?
19:52 EvergreenTree You can use whatever license you want.  I would just prefer to use CC0 if I don't care how it's used
19:53 zsoltisawesome https://mediacru.sh/rIbMAsGDPfYW
19:53 PenguinDad "what the fuck you want" isn't defined in german law :(
19:53 zsoltisawesome ore! finally!
19:53 zsoltisawesome lol
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19:55 Calinou hahaha I just made hoverboards
19:55 Calinou like boats, but work everywhere
19:55 Calinou can't go upwards though
19:55 Megaf Just like hoverboard
19:56 PenguinDad make a DeLorean ;)
19:56 Megaf PenguinDad: hm, using it would involve a rollback
19:56 Megaf may be dangerous
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19:57 Megaf Jordach: welcome bek
19:58 Calinou it'll be a flying thing probably, however
19:58 Megaf Can't you make it hover a little higher?
19:58 Jordach Megaf, tried a distro i downloaded last night, turned out to be quite shit for my needs, despite looking amazing
19:59 VanessaE Calinou: https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/commit​/ad439efea7fb475bd99f7f0d26a5eeb728621fc5
19:59 Amaz_ Jordach, what was it called?
19:59 PenguinDad Jordach: which one?
19:59 Megaf Jordach: perhaps you'd like Ubuntu Studio
19:59 Jordach one that went MIA a while back
19:59 Megaf but get ready for bugs
19:59 Jordach fuck it: stock Ubuntu
19:59 asie https://forum.minetest.net/posting.php?m​ode=edit&amp;f=9&amp;t=9248&amp;p=140673
19:59 asie err
20:00 asie https://forum.minetest.net/viewtop​ic.php?f=9&amp;t=9248&amp;p=140673
20:00 Megaf Jordach: just take a look in Ubuntu Studio
20:00 Jordach pfft
20:00 Megaf I'm a Designer and Engineer and I like it
20:00 Jordach it has outdated shit
20:00 Jordach old blender
20:00 Jordach old lmms
20:00 Jordach everything is outdayed
20:00 Megaf can't you update it?
20:00 EvergreenTree Don't use ubuntu studio
20:00 EvergreenTree just install them yourself
20:00 EvergreenTree :P
20:01 EvergreenTree there is no point in getting a distro just for applications that come with it
20:02 Calinou <Megaf> Jordach: just take a look in Ubuntu Studio
20:03 Calinou the problem is that it's a “specific distribution” with all the problems that come with it: small userbase, little testing
20:03 Megaf well, I used Debian
20:03 Calinou it's a better idea – if you know how to do it and you probably do – to install a general-purpose OS
20:03 VanessaE oh derp, I forgot to add something to the locking images that suggests that they actually *lock*...
20:03 Calinou your lock looks nice
20:03 Calinou the active one can be animated, but the default texture isn't
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20:04 zsoltisawesome HOLY CAVE!
20:04 zsoltisawesome seed: &99 coords: 50 -25 -220 generator: v7
20:04 VanessaE what's the correct filename for the animated, active one?
20:05 zsoltisawesome FOOD!
20:05 Calinou I have four OptiPNGs running at once :D
20:05 Calinou VanessaE, the same name
20:05 Calinou (just like in the default game)
20:05 asie I use pngout
20:05 Calinou anim length is 1.25s
20:05 asie because despite the program being closed, its output is not
20:06 Calinou OptiPNG is pretty efficient at doing it
20:06 Calinou it works on Windows too, I've used it there
20:06 VanessaE oh ok
20:06 asie all mesegates textures are optimized
20:06 asie that's how it fits in about 7KB for the whole mod
20:06 Calinou optipng -o6 -zm1-9 -strip all
20:06 Calinou is very good (but lenghty)
20:06 asie for i in *.png; do pngout -y $i $I; done
20:06 Calinou removing -zm1-9 is less lengthy, but not the best one
20:06 asie err, $i $i
20:06 Calinou you can use *.png as input
20:06 Calinou all files in a directory are processed
20:06 Calinou with OptiPNG
20:07 Calinou much easier /P
20:07 Calinou :P*
20:07 asie oh wow
20:07 asie optipng is actually smaller
20:07 asie nice
20:07 Calinou and it's free software ;)
20:07 PenguinDad advpng is nice too
20:08 zsoltisawesome pngcrush?
20:09 john_minetest My network CURLed up. :P
20:09 Jordach s/CURLed/cURLed/
20:09 * PenguinDad gives everyone good-night-everyone.png
20:15 asie okay guys
20:15 asie putting up a test mesegates server
20:15 EvergreenTree ip?
20:15 asie one sec
20:15 Megaf mesegates?
20:16 EvergreenTree a mod he is working on
20:16 asie Megaf: my logic gates mod
20:16 Megaf asie: github? forum topic? wensite?
20:16 Megaf s/wen/web
20:16 asie Megaf: http://blog.asie.pl/ is all you need
20:16 asie also forum topic is in the modding general
20:16 asie asie.pl : 30000
20:17 asie one last reboot, though
20:17 asie a few minor tweaks
20:17 Calinou http://asie.pl/ → is pretty empty :P
20:17 Megaf 3 inputs asie, well done
20:18 asie Megaf: or 2 inputs
20:18 asie it's tweakable
20:18 EvergreenTree waiting for media
20:18 zsoltisawesome me too
20:18 asie EvergreenTree: i rebooted it
20:18 asie zsoltisawesome: i rebooted it
20:18 asie reconnect.
20:18 Megaf OR and NOT gates, cool
20:18 asie Megaf: and more!
20:18 Megaf asie: what about flips flops?
20:19 asie Megaf: soon.
20:19 EvergreenTree there are so many different kinds of gates
20:19 Megaf well, at least now we have enough gates to make a flipflop
20:19 zsoltisawesome Media
20:19 EvergreenTree right
20:19 zsoltisawesome shoot
20:19 zsoltisawesome this is taking forever, gonna grab a burrito
20:19 Megaf asie: some player on my server will be like crazy when I add this mod
20:19 asie yes
20:19 Megaf and I'm one of them
20:19 asie it's lightweight, well-coded and only needs recipes
20:20 zsoltisawesome #suchlag
20:20 Megaf asie: recipes could be based on silicon and mesecons
20:20 Megaf mese fragments I mean
20:20 asie zsoltisawesome: something is wrong
20:20 zsoltisawesome what?
20:20 asie i'm rebooting it
20:20 harrison only by repetition, repetion and more repetition can the 01,09memehopper achieve victory!
20:20 asie the server stopped responding and i don't know why
20:20 zsoltisawesome ok
20:21 zsoltisawesome i am joining
20:21 asie loading
20:21 zsoltisawesome probably thats why
20:21 * Tiktalik waves at asie
20:21 * asie waves at Tiktalik
20:21 zsoltisawesome fucking minetest
20:21 Megaf asie: we need a faster more efficient kind of wiring too
20:21 zsoltisawesome access vilolations
20:21 asie Megaf: nore is working on it
20:21 asie or was
20:22 nore asie, about what?
20:22 asie nore: better wires
20:22 zsoltisawesome this time, don't stop the server
20:22 nore ah, I just made a slight update to fix a bug
20:22 nore the drawback is that those wires register a lot of nodes (~320 IIRC)
20:23 Megaf nore: github link?
20:23 asie nore: my gates register 8 nodes per gate
20:23 nore https://github.com/Novatux/wires
20:23 asie and some, like the repeater, will register around 24
20:23 nore no, I mean, 320*2
20:23 Megaf asie: is that bad?
20:24 asie something started lagging like crazy again
20:24 asie and the server is not giving any output again
20:24 asie what is it? i know it's not related to my mod
20:24 asie oh there we go
20:24 asie it works now
20:24 nore total: 800 nodes for all wires
20:24 EvergreenTree what was it?
20:24 Amaz_ That seems to be me. It always seems to happen when I join.
20:24 asie Amaz_: keep joining
20:24 asie you will eventually
20:25 Amaz_ Trying again...
20:26 john_minetest Has somebody got a 3d printer? I want this: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/th​e-worlds-tiniest-open-source-violin/
20:31 asie https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9247
20:31 asie is that texture ripped off?
20:32 Calinou yes it is
20:33 asie what are with those lagspikes?
20:34 asie the server just randomly stops responding for 15 seconds
20:34 asie what is with*
20:34 MegAFK asie: saving map to disk?
20:34 asie MegAFK: Using LevelDB; would redis be better?
20:35 Calinou redis is faster but requires (complex) setup
20:35 asie i used redis
20:35 VanessaE Calinou: https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/commit​/f7e1999abb0f5672b981090064294e4be8a80e57
20:35 VanessaE better?
20:35 Calinou haha, nice
20:35 MegAFK asie: just set save map interaval to a higher value
20:36 MegAFK and set sqlite syncronous to 1
20:36 MegAFK if its just a test server
20:36 Calinou not sure if higher value really speeds up stuff, since you have more stuff to save
20:36 asie server_map_save_interval = 5.3
20:36 asie MegAFK: I use LevelDB
20:36 VanessaE (the 16px size still lacks a visible lock, because I didn't figure it would really be particularly obvious at that size, so no point)
20:36 MegAFK Calinou: 60 is a good value
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20:37 MegAFK 17:36 < Calinou> not sure if higher value really speeds up stuff, since you have more stuff to save
20:37 MegAFK THinking about that I tested saving data each second
20:37 asie oh wait
20:37 MegAFK and every five seconds too
20:37 asie i'm /not/ using leveldb
20:37 MegAFK painfuly slow
20:37 asie why am i not using leveldb
20:38 asie how to force minetest to use leveldb?
20:38 MegAFK asie: migrate
20:39 asie MegAFK: migrate?
20:39 asie i don't need my current map
20:39 asie i just want to make a new one using leveldb as its backend
20:39 asie ooooh
20:39 asie i see
20:39 MegAFK asie: then, remove map.sqlite and in world.mt set it to use leveldb
20:39 asie sorry, nvm, nvm
20:39 MegAFK bye
20:40 asie okay, it works now
20:41 Calinou MegAFK, then beg in #minetest-dev about making 60 seconds (or more) the default :P
20:42 zsoltisawesome omfg: http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/30/sony-185tb-​data-tape/?ncid=rss_truncated&amp;cps=gravity
20:42 asie using leveldb and disabling rollbacks helped a lt
20:42 zsoltisawesome asie, is the server up?
20:42 asie yes
20:43 zsoltisawesome connecting... again...
20:47 zsoltisawesome connected
20:54 * Calinou throws the hover in the Images directory
20:54 Calinou really...
20:54 Calinou spent more than an hour trying to make the hovers able to go up and down
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20:56 zsoltisawesome Calinou: hovers?
20:57 Calinou like boats, but would float
20:57 Calinou ;)
20:58 Calinou I can make them “float” on ground around and fall, float in the air without falling: but in both cases I can't make them go up or down like I want
21:01 zsoltisawesome ah
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21:10 Mimilus plop
21:11 zsoltisawesome plip
21:11 Mimilus Is it possible to play an animated png just one time after a click on a node ?
21:12 Mimilus Is it possible to have automatic ejection of particles for a specific node ?
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21:14 Calinou third person distance increased locally, looks better
21:15 Calinou :)
21:15 Calinou from 2 to 3 nodes (camera.cpp)
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21:16 asie Mimilus: I believe you could just make it stop animate after a specified amount of time with minetest.after
21:16 asie And for the latter, I don't think so but I'm not an API expert
21:16 Mimilus asie, thx i'll take a look
21:18 WindHero anyone else find this a bit vague? http://dev.minetest.net/Mapgen_Parameters#minetest.set_mapgen_params.28.29
21:18 Mimilus asie, http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.after is this the good wiki version ?
21:19 asie maybe
21:19 asie i tend to use http://tinyurl.com/mt-lua-api and Ctrl+F
21:20 Mimilus ôÔ
21:21 asie ó.
21:21 Mimilus asie, thx for the info
21:22 * Mimilus bookmarking
21:24 zsoltisawesome }
21:25 zsoltisawesome ô
21:25 zsoltisawesome öò
21:25 john_minetest tinyurl is bad.
21:25 john_minetest There could always be an astley behind it.
21:25 zsoltisawesome lol
21:26 john_minetest http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=det{{0%2C3%2C4}%2C{1%2C-3%2C4}%2C{2%2​C0%2C4}}&dataset=&asynchronous=fal​se&equal=Submit#subpod_0200_1_zoom
21:27 john_minetest WolframAlpha - Verifying your homework since 2009
21:28 WindHero all these special characters that European keyboards get....
21:28 WindHero but still, I can use ʗɦɑɽɱɒṕ
21:28 zsoltisawesome §
21:28 zsoltisawesome P
21:28 zsoltisawesome :P
21:29 WindHero
21:29 john_minetest @ł€¶ŧ←↓→øþ¨æſðđŋħł˝^»«¢„“µ·…–öäüß¹²³¼½¬
21:29 john_minetest I see what you did there ¬_¬
21:29 WindHero :P
21:29 zsoltisawesome
21:29 WindHero don't get too far....
21:29 john_minetest <|>
21:29 zsoltisawesome
21:30 zsoltisawesome
21:30 john_minetest 123
21:30 zsoltisawesome ☺☻♥
21:30 WindHero well, got it to finally force singlenode for my game
21:30 zsoltisawesome fun
21:30 john_minetest Реактор
21:30 WindHero minetest.register_on_mapgen_init(mi​netest.set_mapgen_params(mgparams))
21:30 zsoltisawesome ◄►
21:31 zsoltisawesome
21:31 john_minetest ♪♪ª®©¥¿
21:31 Amaz_ Simple mobs and 3d_armor aren't working together any more... They were working fine until recently... But now, I am imortal against mobs when wearing any armor at all, even a wood chestplate...
21:31 john_minetest KOLORFUL
21:31 WindHero @Amaz_, really?
21:31 john_minetest 90OTHERCOLOR
21:31 WindHero john, please stop
21:31 john_minetest Wow, that's my fav now
21:32 Amaz_ It seems so. I'm useing a fairly recent dev build. I'll update and see what happens.
21:32 WindHero which was the one you updated most recently?
21:34 Amaz_ I'm using a fairly old version of simple mobs (The last one in PlizAdam's repo) and a month or two old version of 3d_armor... And I tested the latest of both, and it still happens.
21:35 WindHero what does the lua window show?
21:35 Amaz_ What do you mean?
21:35 WindHero when mobs try attacking you, what does the black window say?
21:36 zsoltisawesome lol "BTC 1NfBXWqseXc9rCBc3Cbbu6HjxYssFUgkH6
21:36 WindHero it's usually something like "LuaEntitySAO hits singleplayer for 0 HP"
21:36 zsoltisawesome We did not invent the algorithm. The algorithm consistently finds Jesus. The algorithm killed Jeeves.
21:36 zsoltisawesome The algorithm is banned in China. The algorithm is from Jersey. The algorithm constantly finds Jesus.
21:36 zsoltisawesome This is not the algorithm. This is close."
21:36 Amaz_ Just let me check. I don't normaly start from the terminal.
21:37 zsoltisawesome can anyone host a Moontest server for a sec?
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21:37 Amaz_ 22:37:19: ACTION[ServerThread]: Player singleplayer punched by LuaEntitySAO at (31.1,8.51,27.1), damage 0 HP
21:38 WindHero I'll think about it
21:38 WindHero gtg
21:38 Amaz_ If I'm not wearing armor it's fine, and if I use minetest 0.4.9 stable it's also fine
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21:39 asie so i found a few bugs
21:39 asie firstly, detector tubes don't seem to work for me
21:39 asie secondly, wires being pushed by pistons cause a lot of weird edge cases
21:40 harrison As John Hussman of Hussman Funds comments, “Believing that historical tendencies have evolved into a new paradigm will likely have the same results as playing leapfrog with a unicorn.”
21:43 zsoltisawesome http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/22/lytro-​illum/?ncid=rss_truncated&amp;cps=gravity
21:44 zsoltisawesome somebody host a moontest server for a sec?
21:45 zsoltisawesome silence........................................​...............................................​...............................................​...............................................​...............................................​............................................
21:45 zsoltisawesome ^many dots
21:45 harrison somebody else is on the moon
21:46 john_minetest slice sense.......................................​............................................​............................................​............................................​............................................​............................................​..........................................
21:46 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, I guess I could
21:46 zsoltisawesome cool!
21:46 john_minetest much silence
21:46 john_minetest very dots
21:46 zsoltisawesome wow
21:46 john_minetest such many
21:46 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, which git repo/branch?
21:46 zsoltisawesome master, mine
21:47 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, which would be ManofMinetest24?
21:47 zsoltisawesome yus
21:47 lordcirth cloning
21:48 zsoltisawesome fun
21:48 zsoltisawesome lol
21:48 zsoltisawesome my plugin works!
21:48 zsoltisawesome RedDoge has left (Quit: Page closed)
21:49 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, any particular seed?
21:49 zsoltisawesome &99
21:49 zsoltisawesome ^that
21:50 zsoltisawesome oops
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21:50 john_minetest I just read "my penguin works!"
21:50 lordcirth odd.  What mapgen?
21:50 zsoltisawesome lol
21:50 zsoltisawesome v7
21:51 zsoltisawesome in theory it should force v7, but it might not
21:51 Amaz_ It (for me) always does.
21:52 lordcirth zsoltisawesome, running, 75.119.249.81 , port 30000
21:52 lordcirth gtg tho
21:52 zsoltisawesome ok
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22:03 kaeza evenings
22:03 WindHero good evening
22:03 WindHero (although it's noon here xD)
22:07 WindHero well, it's one thing to use noise to generate a ton of islands
22:07 WindHero and it's another to generate a single island at a specific place without noise
22:12 WindHero I'm working on creating a Minetest game with nothing but floating islands, so I need to ensure an island appears at the origin so as not to leave people fall to their doom
22:16 john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/RrbMtSr.jpg
22:16 WindHero :P
22:16 WindHero seems legit
22:19 john_minetest Drones are so awesome. I wanna have one.
22:19 WindHero lol
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22:35 WindHero the moment you inadvertently create an hourglass of stone with the voxel manipulator
22:37 lordcirth Wow, everybody is on my server now...
22:37 WindHero how many people?
22:46 lordcirth WindHero, I accidentally made it "public" forgetting that meant lobby.  so like 50, who had no idea what to do
22:46 lordcirth Supposed to be a dev server
22:48 lordcirth So many bones xd
23:09 WindHero xD
23:09 WindHero that can be problematic
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23:18 zsoltisawesome lol
23:20 WindHero well, so far so good with a spawn-island gen
23:20 lordcirth Yeah, I just deleted and remade with same seed, since I can do that now
23:20 WindHero cool, about the easiest barring WorldEdit
23:20 WindHero (replace command)
23:21 lordcirth yeah, that would work too.  But people had done lots of random stuff, like wood houses, etc
23:21 lordcirth and torches! :P
23:22 WindHero oh, this had been that way overnight or something
23:22 WindHero then yeah, total reset :P
23:36 WindHero Now I have the most basic of starting islands....
23:37 WindHero a semi-bowl filled with water 10 below origin
23:37 WindHero gotta make this bigger....
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23:45 zsoltisawesome WindHero: I wish you luck
23:45 WindHero thank you!
23:45 WindHero so far, my get-up for the game is a singlenode map gen,
23:45 WindHero players are given a helicopter and 99 torches by default
23:46 zsoltisawesome so, is singlenode like turning off mapgen?
23:46 WindHero yeah
23:46 zsoltisawesome lol
23:46 WindHero only the rare nyancat block appears
23:46 zsoltisawesome haha
23:46 zsoltisawesome just remove that code, and you have yourself a bunch of void!
23:46 zsoltisawesome XD
23:47 WindHero :P
23:47 WindHero yup
23:47 zsoltisawesome fun
23:47 zsoltisawesome so, how does one make custom generators
23:47 zsoltisawesome i need some for moontest
23:47 WindHero not really sure if you can create a base engine mapgen
23:48 WindHero but you can make one through lua mods and just use singlenode
23:48 WindHero mainly, use voxelmanip
23:49 WindHero take a look at skylands or (even better), one of paramat's mapgens such as watershed
23:49 WindHero experimentalmg is another to look at
23:49 zsoltisawesome i need like pregenerated sturutures
23:50 zsoltisawesome moontest is based from paramat's moonrealm mapgen
23:51 WindHero if you're looking for something like that
23:51 WindHero definitely look at https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=7263
23:52 WindHero it actually generates villages randomly
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23:57 zsoltisawesome thats cool
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23:57 zsoltisawesome sounds like i could use that
23:58 WindHero :)
23:58 lordseanington VanessaE, can you giveme interact on your mostly vanilla minetest server under this name
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