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00:01 jordan4ibanez Portals http://youtu.be/wOERIJjR3D8 :D
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02:04 blaise I want chicken
02:05 blaise I want liver
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02:12 Megaf None of my 3 servers are showing up at server.minetest.net
02:13 Megaf how can I know why that's happening?
02:14 blaise look at your config
02:15 Megaf It was showing up, then it stopped showing
02:15 Megaf Do I need to open a new port, TCP thing or something?
02:15 blaise do you have some kind of psychadelic firewall or something? crazy router?
02:15 Megaf nope
02:18 blaise check your config
02:20 blaise #server_announce = 0
02:20 blaise that needs to be set to = 1
02:20 blaise and uncommented
02:20 blaise in your minetest.conf
02:21 blaise probably in ~/.minetest/
02:23 blaise Megaf: did you find it?
02:28 crazyR wow leveldb migration is going to take for ever 2.00586% complete lol
02:28 Megaf blaise: yep, that was always set to 1 on all my servers
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03:10 asl is it possible to change the font color?
03:13 Megaf asl: yep
03:13 Megaf asl: just look at minetest.conf.example
03:13 Megaf Guest89739: your nick
03:14 asl there nothing in the minetest.conf.example on font color, only console, fog and cross-hair
03:17 kahrl you can change your monitor settings to change white to anything
03:17 asl that wouldn't help, i want to change the font color cause i can't see the number for item that is white
03:18 VanessaE_ asl:  turn on font shadowing.
03:18 VanessaE_ font_shadow = 2
03:18 VanessaE_ font_shadow_alpha = 255
03:19 VanessaE_ as long as you're not still using a bitmapped font, that should fix it.
03:23 VanessaE_ as for the crosshair, that's a HUD element and is supplied as a texture (so the color thereof is controlled as part of the image file)
03:23 VanessaE_ fog is hard-coded to more or less approximate dawn and dusk
03:25 asl the font_shadow doesn't do anything, i think it cause my build doesn't have FREETYPE,  `USE_FREETYPE=0` is shown in minetest --version
03:28 VanessaE_ indeed.
03:28 VanessaE_ you'll want that.
03:28 VanessaE_ in which case, either enable it in your build, or use a bitmapped font such as this one, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4436
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04:00 crazyR can anyone help me with this, just finished a migration and now when a player logs onto the server i get this error: https://gist.github.com/cra​zyR14/0cf277efd79511430f40
04:00 crazyR file mods/default/player.lua:142
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04:38 crazyR Krock you here?
04:38 crazyR gues not lol
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04:46 blaise so, how
04:46 blaise how's the android version of minetest comming along?
04:47 VanessaE_ Sapier's build of Minetest,  http://animalsmod.comuf.com/​downloads/Minetest-debug.apk
04:48 VanessaE_ it works reasonably well
04:48 VanessaE_ not sure how recent that build is though
04:48 VanessaE_ but it's not old
04:49 blaise sweet
04:49 blaise :)
04:51 VanessaE_ bbl
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05:18 blaise it totally crashed my phone about 10 minutes after it force closed..
05:19 blaise and the images of the items in the quick select bar are fubar
05:19 blaise some are ok.. the pik is fine
05:19 blaise that's about it..
05:19 blaise ps, I was using a motorola atrix HD
05:20 blaise I'll test it on my Motorola atrix 4G later
05:20 RealBadAngel blaise, youre talkin bout android port?
05:20 blaise yes
05:20 RealBadAngel please report that in forums
05:20 blaise aparently Sapier built one
05:20 RealBadAngel android port is experimental
05:21 blaise yes
05:21 RealBadAngel and surely have many issues
05:21 blaise indeed
05:21 blaise it preformed well before it force closed though.. :)
05:21 RealBadAngel but reporting them in irc wont help that much
05:22 RealBadAngel at least when maintainer is offline ;)
05:22 blaise and aside from the quick select boxes and the inventory, the rest of the graphics were beautiful! :)
05:22 blaise I'll catch up with Sapier later..
05:22 blaise just my immediate observations and the devices I will be using
05:23 RealBadAngel you can report issues on github:
05:23 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/is​sues?direction=desc&labels=bug&​page=1&sort=created&state=open
05:23 blaise ShadowBot: remind sapier to ask me about my experience with his android build of minetest
05:24 RealBadAngel or in forums:
05:24 RealBadAngel https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=6
05:24 blaise XD
05:24 blaise no bugzilla?
05:24 blaise bugs.minetest.net ?
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05:30 RealBadAngel hehe, no.
05:30 RealBadAngel no zillas
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05:39 * blaise sobs profusely
05:39 blaise so much for the art of proper bug reportery and backtracery
05:40 asl that's what github is for
05:42 blaise if I try to upload a terrabyte backtrace to githump It'll flail about like a salmon swiming in the air trying to get up stream
05:45 crazyR !up 37.187.177.180 31000
05:45 MinetestBot 37.187.177.180:31000 is up (9ms)
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06:50 MinetestBot GIT: celeron55 commited to minetest/minetest: Client: Don't crash if trying to draw too many items from inventory in HUD 8d31534710 2014-04-27T09:49:19+03:00 http://git.io/ygzkXQ
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08:16 crazyR !up 37.187.177.180 31000
08:16 MinetestBot 37.187.177.180:31000 is up (10ms)
08:16 Krock ~down 37.187.177.180 31000
08:18 PenguinDad !top
08:18 PenguinDad MinetestBot!
08:18 MinetestBot PenguinDad!
08:20 crazyR ?
08:21 PenguinDad MinetestBot needs !top
08:21 crazyR whats that do --> ~down 37.187.177.180 31000
08:23 Krock it shutdowns your server
08:23 crazyR well sorry to let you down lol
08:24 crazyR or do you mean inthe bot?
08:28 Krock 37.187.177.180:31000 seems to be down.
08:29 crazyR whast the ubuntu/debian, dev repo
08:30 crazyR what dya mean krock
08:30 Krock I love pancakes
08:32 CraigyDavi Hmmm can you not display text from a file in a HUD element?
08:33 crazyR craig: create a config.lua file, and put the text in a table :) or just avariable
08:33 crazyR *variable
08:34 CraigyDavi Well should it not work when getting it from a file in the worldpath?
08:35 CraigyDavi Here's the code: http://pastie.org/private/qa26bsivxhku0bil2kvhug
08:36 crazyR text = "..welcomecontent.."   should be text = welcomecontent
08:36 crazyR i think
08:36 CraigyDavi Ok ill try
08:37 CraigyDavi Yey it works. But it does not start a new line...
08:37 crazyR you maybe need to do some pregreplaceing, or something
08:38 CraigyDavi ok
08:41 sfan5 PenguinDad: what should !top do?
08:41 PenguinDad it should show the server with the most players
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08:43 CraigyDavi Well you just do:
08:43 CraigyDavi !server most
08:43 MinetestBot CraigyDavi: VanessaE's mostly-vanilla minetest_game server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 | Clients: 6/50, 43 | Version: 0.4.9-dev | ping: 0.095
08:43 CraigyDavi That's not right...
08:43 PenguinDad then make !top an alias :P
08:44 PenguinDad !help
08:44 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
08:45 CraigyDavi !server <20
08:45 MinetestBot CraigyDavi: No results
08:45 PenguinDad !server top
08:45 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No results
08:45 CraigyDavi !server <10
08:45 MinetestBot CraigyDavi: No results
08:45 PenguinDad :(
08:45 Calinou hi
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08:45 PenguinDad hello Calinou
08:46 PenguinDad !server players:most
08:46 MinetestBot PenguinDad: just test (6:30-21:30utc) | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 31/53, 49 | Version: 0.4.9 | ping: 0.144
08:46 PenguinDad !server players:=5
08:46 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Krock's Ultimative Platform | 85.1.67.73 | Clients: 5/20, 26 | Version: 0.4.9-dev20140425 | ping: 0.032
08:47 Krock already 5 players? nice
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08:48 Calinou there's a large jungle, I have 24 FPS near it
08:49 PenguinDad disable fancy trees then :p
08:51 sfan5 !server port:least
08:51 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
08:51 sfan5 !server port:most
08:51 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
08:51 Krock there are mobs. I have 7 fps near it. disable fancy mobs then
08:51 sfan5 :/
08:51 Krock :3
08:53 Calinou lol Krock
08:53 celeron55 what the flying fuck man
08:53 celeron55 watershed is completely crazy
08:54 PenguinDad lol I found a nano jungle with only 4 trees
08:54 celeron55 i have browsed the terrain made by this for a fair amount and decided i'd try making a fly-through video of this
08:54 celeron55 turns out this time it wants to create an infinitely long higher-than-clouds size mountain
08:55 Calinou woah, occlusion culling got all glitchy
08:55 sfan5 https://gist.github.com/sfan5/9586533 and https://github.com/sfan5/min​etest/tree/lua_inputhandler could be useful
08:55 Calinou I died with camera update off; I respawn, I enable camera update
08:55 Calinou mapblocks flicker
08:56 Calinou stopped happening after I wandered away from the spawn
08:56 Calinou I'll see if this is reproducible
08:57 PenguinDad Calinou: it's reproducible
08:57 Calinou it is
08:57 celeron55 sfan5: nah, i can just run it slow enough so that it has time to generate stuff, but the input handler would be useful if it could read what is in the world
08:57 Calinou is it reported already, PenguinDad?
08:57 celeron55 so that it could go higher and lower as needed
08:57 PenguinDad celeron55: I don't think so
08:57 Calinou also... I don't see myself in third person
08:58 PenguinDad * Calinou
08:58 Calinou but I do after wandering away from spawn
08:59 celeron55 sfan5: so... i'm probably better off by just hardcoding something
09:00 sfan5 that is probably the easiest way without trying to get the env api for lua into there
09:02 Calinou reported
09:05 celeron55 also i don't want to generate player input but just directly set the position of the player, so it's even less useful
09:08 sfan5 but if you set the position there if no smooth transition
09:09 celeron55 smooth translation is easier to do by just using continuous averaging
09:15 CraigyDavi Anyone know how I can use read fucntions to read a specific line in a file?
09:15 CraigyDavi Or anyone know how to display multiple lines on HUD elements...if it makes it easier.
09:16 Krock If I would be you, I'd look into the hunger mod codes
09:18 CraigyDavi The one by kaeza or by BlockMen?
09:19 Krock both?
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09:20 CraigyDavi Hmm they don't have any text elements though.
09:27 Krock areas mod has
09:27 PenguinDad Landrush too
09:28 CraigyDavi Yes, but I'm trying to use multiple text lines, those only use one line. So basicllay a paragraph of text on the HUD.
09:28 Krock add 2 huds? and adjust the positions
09:28 Krock ooh
09:28 Krock a whole text
09:29 Krock that doesn't matter, it begins a new line if the text is too long
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09:29 CraigyDavi Really? I've tried that and it seems to not.
09:30 CraigyDavi Do you know how to read a specific line from a file? I could then be able to do this using multiple text elements.
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09:34 reactor Ehlo.
09:34 reactor Why won't stone monster and dungeon master spawn?
09:34 reactor Dirt and tree monsters spawn fine.
09:34 Calinou reactor, they spawn underground in Carbone
09:34 Calinou dungeon master is from -64 and below
09:34 Calinou stone monster is any height below sea level
09:35 reactor Ah, I see.
09:35 Calinou both are fairly rare, but are powerful
09:35 Calinou you'll meet rats quite often though :)
09:35 Calinou I'll make some chart to explain mobs in Carbone
09:35 Calinou they are heavily modified
09:37 reactor I failed to understand max_height, that's why.
09:37 reactor Now that I edited it, they should.
09:37 reactor Thank you!
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09:39 john_minetest Hey
09:39 john_minetest Coolest water(?) show I have ever seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKoB0MHVBvM
09:39 twoelk does anybody know how to have more than 11 games show up in the main menu?
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09:40 twoelk like in some drop down list as when creating worlds
09:42 Calinou http://0bin.net/paste/38cp8k3-VbGlUTWM#pI6​cQoc0BvGq+iu+NaaY77eNCPDqmvAX4oWoDmKRB3A=
09:43 Calinou or https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=15&amp;t=9033&amp;p=137208#p137208
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09:47 reactor woah
09:47 reactor that's interesting, I'll try it
09:56 john_minetest Those emotions: http://roaming-initiative.com/me​diagoblin/u/citkane/m/nosferatu/
10:02 * Calinou is uploading a video
10:09 Calinou OpenArena is now tbe recommended application to open .webm files
10:09 Calinou great...
10:09 Calinou I wanted to select OpenShot
10:12 john_minetest Why not OpenArena?
10:12 john_minetest Maybe it works and you can shoot all the people in the movie
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10:54 markveidemanis Hi
10:54 john_minetest -_- So we meet again.
10:55 markveidemanis I never really left
10:55 markveidemanis I was just reincarnated through ZNC
10:55 markveidemanis <3 ZNC and MinetestBot and ShadowBot
10:55 john_minetest c|:-[>
10:56 markveidemanis Wanna play a game?
10:56 markveidemanis Guess which
10:56 john_minetest Nuclear Warfare?
10:56 markveidemanis Fucking I-Spy FTW
10:56 markveidemanis Let's play I spy on an image
10:57 markveidemanis http://i.imgur.com/1hhZEVW.png
10:58 markveidemanis Are all facte here right? http://marktest.co.uk/2014​/04/all-about-encryption/
10:58 markveidemanis !title
10:58 MinetestBot markveidemanis: All About Encryption | Mark Test
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10:58 markveidemanis The concept of password encryption is to irreversibly encrypt a password. Right?
10:59 Jordach markveidemanis, one way encryption
10:59 markveidemanis I think I have made a big mistake here http://marktest.co.uk/2014​/04/all-about-encryption/
10:59 Jordach you have to have the same settings twice; eg md5 -> sha512
10:59 markveidemanis One way? Is Sha1 1 way?
10:59 Jordach and then the identical salt if it's one way
11:00 markveidemanis I lost you
11:00 Jordach markveidemanis, afaik, Minetest even uses 1 way encryption
11:00 markveidemanis Which hash though?
11:00 Jordach that's something i don't know ;P
11:01 john_minetest could be md5.
11:01 john_minetest not sure if salted.
11:01 john_minetest I wonder how many people are using weak passwords...
11:01 john_minetest Things like "lol" are easy to crack, even with bruteforce.
11:03 * markveidemanis wrote a multithreaded brute-force thing in python
11:03 Jordach anyone can write that
11:03 markveidemanis But even with 64GB ram, I can't keep the list for a 5 digit password
11:03 Jordach it just takes patience on waiting for it to track :P
11:03 Jordach markveidemanis, discard old passwords and use the ASCII values in place
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11:05 Jordach basically, if the password is older than say 3 attempts, remove from found lis
11:05 markveidemanis I'm just making a database
11:05 markveidemanis Writig to file
11:05 * markveidemanis pastebins his shit
11:06 Jordach ew
11:06 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9116965
11:06 markveidemanis I need to only close every so often
11:06 markveidemanis actually I want to keep a database
11:06 john_minetest did you write that or did you copy that?
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11:07 markveidemanis Copied
11:07 markveidemanis and adjusted!
11:08 john_minetest Thought that.
11:09 markveidemanis Anyone know a free minetest server host?
11:09 john_minetest I'd do it in C++. Opening a file, writing binary to it, beginning with ascii a.
11:10 * Jordach tries to get an oil powered TBM for BFD
11:15 markveidemanis I need a dns Host that supports rDNS
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11:31 Jordach [PavelS], ello!
11:31 sfan5 http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comm​ents/242fil/whats_the_biggest_incorrec​t_fact_youve_always/ch31k04?context=5
11:31 sfan5 meow
11:32 [PavelS] Hello)
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11:33 Mikerhinos hi
11:33 reactor eh
11:34 reactor Why doesn't the author of Firearms mod add more breakable nodes by default?
11:34 reactor It's tiresome to have to add many nodes for popular mods.
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11:41 CraigyDavi How does this server welcome screen look to everyone? http://i.imgur.com/qi4a4jC.png
11:43 reactor CraigyDavi: non-uniform.
11:43 reactor The text is unreadable.
11:43 reactor Change background to black, maybe?
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11:45 CWz is there an item decay mod?
11:45 markveidemanis http://awesomescreenshot.com/0d72pu0r0d What the hell do I do now
11:45 Krock "Minetest engine core main application detected a problem and must be closed." wooo
11:46 * Jordach gets that too
11:46 reactor Windows eh.
11:46 Krock CWz, builtin_item
11:50 reactor Why do players try Unicode nicks?
11:50 reactor Are there servers that permit those?
11:52 sfan5 no
11:52 sfan5 unicode nicks are generally unsupported
11:52 sfan5 nick may only have [A-Za-z0-9_] chars IIRC
11:53 Krock '-' included
11:54 CraigyDavi reactor, Yep I'm working on a semi-transaprent background to go behind the text
11:54 CraigyDavi Krock, I always get "Minetest core main application is not responding"
11:55 reactor ah
11:55 reactor CraigyDavi: well, still, white on blue doesn't make it readable.
11:55 Krock CraigyDavi, me too but just for ~10s then the media fially loaded
11:55 reactor It's better to change the bgto black.
11:55 Krock *finally
11:55 reactor 1) you already have black picture; 2) white text on black bg always looks good
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11:55 CraigyDavi Ok ill try to do that
11:56 CraigyDavi Krock, do you get the error when running your server? I do, frequently.
11:56 Krock CraigyDavi, running server? no just client
11:57 CraigyDavi Oh I get it more when running server rather than on the client.
11:58 * Jordach is still trying to fix broken code
12:04 CraigyDavi Is there anywhere I can get an image which looks just like a formspec background?
12:04 Jordach CraigyDavi, any image will do for a formspec bg
12:05 CraigyDavi I mean, I want an image to be displayed as a background to this: http://i.imgur.com/qi4a4jC.png which is semi-transparanet and looks like a formspec background.
12:06 Jordach make a 1920x1080 png image with 50% transparencuy
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12:07 CraigyDavi Ok
12:08 Jordach !c 99/3
12:08 MinetestBot 33
12:09 markveidemanis !c 99//3
12:09 MinetestBot 33
12:09 markveidemanis !c 1/3
12:09 MinetestBot 0
12:09 markveidemanis !c 1*0.33
12:09 MinetestBot 0.33
12:12 Jordach DanD is the most wasteful person i've ever seen
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12:12 KikaRz Hello
12:12 CraigyDavi hi KikaRz
12:12 KikaRz Someone knows how can I change this ugly font from Minetest?
12:12 Jordach any time the TBM runs out of an item, he sets the fuel gauge to 0, wasting the fuel
12:12 KikaRz it stinks. :(
12:12 john_minetest !c i
12:12 MinetestBot NameError: name 'i' is not defined
12:12 john_minetest !c math.i
12:12 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'i'
12:12 john_minetest !c maths.i
12:12 MinetestBot NameError: name 'maths' is not defined
12:12 john_minetest -_-
12:12 KikaRz !c math.pi
12:12 MinetestBot 3.141592653589793
12:12 KikaRz Thank you.
12:13 KikaRz Now, could someone help me?
12:13 KikaRz keyword: please?
12:13 CraigyDavi What fonts do you have in your font folder?
12:13 KikaRz Dunno, lol.
12:13 KikaRz A second...
12:14 Jordach LOL
12:14 Jordach my oil powered tbm gives back the bucket of oil you feed it :D
12:14 KikaRz DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf, fontdejavusansmono.png, fontlucida.png, liberationmono.ttf, liberationsans.ttf
12:14 Jordach (the bucket, not with the oil in)
12:14 GhostDoge !c math.e
12:14 MinetestBot 2.718281828459045
12:14 KikaRz That are the fonts inside the folder.
12:16 KikaRz CraigyDavi, I don't know the name of this font that my Minetest is currently running
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12:17 CraigyDavi Hmmm can you take a screenshot?
12:17 CraigyDavi Of the font in-game
12:17 KikaRz ait
12:17 KikaRz wait
12:17 KikaRz And my Public Serverlist isn't appearing.
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12:18 KikaRz Hmm... I think I need to get IMGUR
12:19 CraigyDavi Can you send it again. I lost it
12:19 KikaRz lel, i'll upload it to imgur
12:20 CraigyDavi good idea
12:20 KikaRz well, if my browser opens...
12:21 KikaRz that's the worst job.
12:21 Jordach !tell kaeza 3/2/1 (delete the un-neededones!) till good times :D
12:21 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when kaeza is around
12:21 KikaRz !tell  Jordach 3/2/1 test
12:21 MinetestBot KikaRz: yeah, yeah
12:21 KikaRz 'ç'
12:23 KikaRz CraigyDavi, as my Chromium broke up, i'll upload thru Iceweasel
12:23 CraigyDavi Okay
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12:24 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/MKjLbLm.png
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12:25 john_minetest the font looks broken
12:25 KikaRz yea
12:25 KikaRz #! Crunchbang ftw
12:25 CraigyDavi Looks bad.
12:26 CraigyDavi I think you must have missed something upon compiling.
12:26 KikaRz So, what to do related to this?
12:26 KikaRz Well, what is needed to compile? I just used "One-Line Compile" from Calinou, as ever I do.
12:26 CraigyDavi And your public server list does not work?
12:26 KikaRz Nope.
12:27 KikaRz "LuaJIT" is related to some features. It's not enabled, but I would like to get it
12:27 CraigyDavi have you got libcurl?
12:27 KikaRz How can I know?
12:27 KikaRz apt-get install libcurl* ?
12:28 CraigyDavi I don't use linux so idk. Umm where does it store all the libraries, bin folder?
12:28 KikaRz '-'
12:28 CraigyDavi If there's a libcurl file then its good.
12:29 KikaRz john_minetest, could you help me?
12:29 KikaRz (I never liked Linux)
12:29 john_minetest KikaRz: What exactly is the problem?
12:30 KikaRz Fonts are broken, missing libraries (LuaJit and ...), Server list not working.
12:30 john_minetest crunchbang... package manager?
12:30 KikaRz Yep, Synaptic
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12:30 john_minetest oh
12:31 john_minetest Try to recompile
12:31 KikaRz I've used "One-Line compile" from Calinou
12:31 john_minetest cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 && make && make install
12:31 john_minetest wait
12:31 john_minetest wrong
12:31 john_minetest cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 && make
12:31 KikaRz DRUN_IN_PLACE will store mods, games, bins into the same folder?
12:31 john_minetest yes
12:31 KikaRz if enabled
12:31 KikaRz ok
12:32 john_minetest don't run "make install".
12:32 KikaRz could you disable me the Server?
12:32 KikaRz it takes a lot to compile server, and I don't want it
12:33 john_minetest There is also an option...
12:33 KikaRz yea, but I don't know what option
12:34 john_minetest -DBUILD_SERVER=0
12:35 KikaRz running...
12:35 KikaRz so, what's the info you wnat?
12:35 KikaRz *want
12:35 john_minetest Just rebuild it and look if it works now.
12:35 KikaRz well, there are missing libraries
12:36 KikaRz want to take a look on this "log" ?
12:36 john_minetest yep
12:36 john_minetest pastie.net
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12:37 KikaRz Opening browser.
12:38 CraigyDavi *pastie.org
12:38 john_minetest org, right
12:38 john_minetest Lol, how long does it take to open browser?
12:38 KikaRz Chromium just opened up 19 times.
12:38 puhfa lua question: is there a way to call lua functions registered by minetest.register_on_dignode in lua, when i only know the node position?
12:38 * Jordach likes the quad-core AMD A10 :D
12:38 puhfa i dont want to use node_dig
12:39 KikaRz Jordach, i still love Pentium 4
12:39 john_minetest I like my i7
12:40 CraigyDavi I believe do, puhfa.
12:40 GhostDoge I like my AMD Phenom II X6
12:40 CraigyDavi *so
12:40 KikaRz http://pastie.org/9117106
12:40 Jordach and tf2 time :P
12:41 KikaRz curl missing, luajit, pkgconfig, redis
12:41 GhostDoge KikaRz: Redis is not needed
12:41 KikaRz Whatever. Just appearing there.
12:41 sfan5 KikaRz: luajit and curl is not needed either
12:41 sfan5 and pkgconfig is not needed too
12:41 KikaRz but I like those :c
12:42 john_minetest Then install the packages.
12:42 KikaRz My question: How?
12:42 john_minetest apt-get install <package>
12:42 KikaRz What's redis for?
12:43 sfan5 http://wiki.minetest.net/Database_backends
12:43 KikaRz john_minetest, now I make "make install" ?
12:44 KikaRz Well, font is still the same :(
12:45 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:45 Krock sfan5, Dummy would be "Very good" in the "Compatibility with builds" ;)
12:45 KikaRz Hello PilAdam
12:45 sfan5 N/A makes more sense
12:45 KikaRz Hello PilzAdam*
12:45 * sfan5 meows at PilzAdam to welcome him
12:45 Krock ok...if you think so
12:45 KikaRz john_minetest, font is still the same and Server List not working either.
12:46 Krock "Congratulations to: LuxAtheris (16)" uh congrats
12:47 * PilzAdam meows at sfan5 to welcome his welcome
12:49 * GhostDoge squawks at PilzAdam to welcome him
12:49 GhostDoge *barks
12:49 * KikaRz spanks at GhostDoge to welcome him
12:49 KikaRz (idk, no ideas to /me)
12:50 * GhostDoge /me's /me
12:50 puhfa CraigyDavi: well, thats a relief
12:50 GhostDoge D:
12:50 puhfa now another question: how
12:51 KikaRz Guys, one question: To update my minetest, I need to "git pull;make install" or i need to "git pull;cmake ....;make;sudo make install" ?
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12:52 GhostDoge KikaRz: you should do a make clean too
12:52 KikaRz D;
12:52 Sockbat2 left #minetest
12:52 KikaRz but
12:52 KikaRz that won't delete my cmake?
12:53 Krock it ill delete your linux
12:53 Krock *will
12:53 KikaRz GhostDoge, just press the big red button.
12:53 GhostDoge why should it delete cmake or even linux
12:53 KikaRz so, tell me the string to update my minetest
12:53 KikaRz git pull;
12:54 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=131778#p131778
12:55 GhostDoge git pull && cmake . <options> && make clean && make -j<number of cores/threads>
12:55 GhostDoge ^ KikaRz
12:55 KikaRz forget, that ; it's for my Counter-Strike 1.6 binds.
12:55 KikaRz it's && on linux.
12:56 PilzAdam you can use && or ;
12:56 KikaRz sweet.
12:56 PilzAdam the difference is that the second command doesn't run when the first fails when you use &&
12:56 GhostDoge KikaRz: ; would work too but && makes sure that the process didn't crash
12:56 KikaRz don't we need to make install?
12:57 PilzAdam make install only when you have -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0
12:57 KikaRz ok, understood.
12:57 KikaRz I've made make install all the time.
12:57 reactor Is there a WE command to set facedir?
12:58 Krock screwdriver ftw!
12:58 KikaRz compiling...
12:58 KikaRz i must save this command or i'll get f#!"&#
12:59 reactor Krock: oh yeah, screwdriving a bloody thousand slabs is fun!
12:59 reactor I'm tired of having to //stack manually.
13:01 KikaRz I dislike totally to compile.
13:01 KikaRz Is make me mad.
13:02 KikaRz git pull && cmake . <options> && make clean && cd src && make -j<number of cores/threads>
13:02 KikaRz i need to enter cd src to compile it?
13:02 KikaRz *enter the folder "src"
13:03 reactor *directory
13:03 KikaRz **enter the directory "src"
13:03 sfan5 KikaRz: no
13:03 Krock a² + b² = c²
13:03 KikaRz Uff.
13:03 KikaRz That's the 2nd grade equation.
13:04 KikaRz c1(2) + c2(2) =
13:04 KikaRz oh pitagoras.
13:05 Krock reactor, as far I know, it's not possible to set param2 in a voxelarea
13:05 Krock pythagoras xD
13:05 KikaRz pitágoras in Portugal, sorry.
13:05 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1990
13:06 Krock reactor -^
13:06 KikaRz my computer looks like an airplane *w*
13:07 KikaRz <Rhys> What is Minetest based on?
13:07 KikaRz <onez> I think it's based on Doom isn't it?
13:08 * GhostDoge slaps cross-network slaps onez
13:08 GhostDoge -slaps
13:09 * sfan5 purrs at GhostDoge
13:09 KikaRz yea, because fapping is different
13:10 reactor ?
13:10 reactor So, WE can't affect the facedir?
13:11 reactor How can it import schemes correctly then?
13:11 sfan5 reactor: it can
13:11 KikaRz Oh no! I'm a murderer! I've killed Chromium!
13:13 KikaRz Hey, someone's there?
13:13 john_minetest Hey, why does George R. R. Martin (writer of "Game of thrones") like linux so much?
13:14 john_minetest Because it has "killall".
13:14 KikaRz it has?
13:14 KikaRz let me try
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13:14 KikaRz killall: unrecognized command
13:14 john_minetest O_o
13:14 KikaRz Oh wait, I'm at MS-DOIS
13:14 john_minetest lol
13:15 markveidemanis How do i see my hostname on irc?
13:15 KikaRz It's the latest version! As the old one just "bad command"
13:15 KikaRz /whois markveidemanis
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13:15 markveidemanis ...
13:15 PenguinDad /who markveidemanis
13:15 markveidemanis Okay, how do I get rid of a cloak
13:15 KikaRz you don't :)
13:16 PenguinDad go to #freenode markveidemanis
13:16 markveidemanis I have
13:16 KikaRz I don't think they can disable it.
13:16 KikaRz Once you get a cloak, you'll have it forever, I think.
13:16 KikaRz I've read something like that anywhere.
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13:17 PilzAdam markveidemanis, dont auth to services
13:17 GhostDoge :D
13:17 markveidemanis Well fuck
13:17 markveidemanis can I just logoout?
13:18 KikaRz lol
13:18 KikaRz /msg NikcServ logout ?
13:18 KikaRz /msg NickServ logout ?*
13:18 markveidemanis Done that
13:19 markveidemanis STILL GOT THE CLOAK
13:19 KikaRz Just go to freenode.net
13:20 KikaRz CaveJohnson, are you still there?
13:21 KikaRz Now I only want you gone.
13:22 KikaRz GhostDoge, 93% compiling. Last words till it is compiled.
13:24 KikaRz markveidemanis, good luck with that 8)
13:29 john_minetest Hey, aren't there organisation cloaks?
13:29 KikaRz fhat ones you need domainsr ta
13:29 KikaRz *for that ones you need domains
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13:32 KikaRz wow, so muych errors on vanessa's survival server.
13:33 KikaRz 194MB / 217MB Ram
13:33 KikaRz 421 / 443 MB SWAP
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13:36 GhostDoge markveidemanis: without cloak your domain is 50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl
13:36 sylvieL joined #minetest
13:36 markveidemanis Hmm
13:36 markveidemanis screw it
13:41 reactor sfan5: hmm?
13:41 sylvieL joined #minetest
13:42 KikaRz Playing CS 2D...
13:43 john_minetest joined #minetest
13:43 john_minetest O_o FritzBox doing strange things...
13:45 sfan5 reactor: <reactor> So, WE can't affect the facedir?
13:47 Hirato joined #minetest
13:50 reactor I see.
13:50 reactor But there seems to be no user command for that.
13:56 GhostDoge joined #minetest
13:58 GhostDoge since when does the french channel exist?
13:59 sfan5 ask calinou
13:59 reactor And since when doesn't Russian one?
14:01 john_minetest joined #minetest
14:01 john_minetest Hey
14:02 john_minetest KOLORS!
14:02 GhostDoge and since when is my 3G connection so crappy?
14:02 Krock What's the fail with this? "list[nodemeta:-13,0,-15;4,1;1,1;]" ?
14:06 reactor obile Internet is inherently crappy
14:06 sfan5 !rainbow I like kittens, meow!
14:06 MinetestBot 4I4 4l7i7k7e8 8k8i3t3t3ens,6 6m6eow!
14:11 nore !rainbow sfan5, do you find that fun?
14:11 MinetestBot 4s4f4a7n7​57,8 8d8o3 3y3ou f6i6n6d th4a4t4 7f7u7n8?
14:11 sfan5 yes
14:11 nore well, me too$$
14:11 nore s/$$//
14:12 GhostDoge joined #minetest
14:20 * Hirato sighs
14:20 Hirato stupid KDE <_<
14:21 Hirato the nepomuk --> baloo migrator must've got no testing; hits the 'max files open' ulimit and then some since it never closes any open fds
14:21 reactor KDE is inherently stupid.
14:21 reactor As well as other DEs.
14:21 Hirato well excuse me captain pekwm
14:23 john_minetest i3 & dwm ftw
14:23 GhostDoge Ctrl+Alt+F1 ftw
14:23 Hirato if anything, it just opens up a bajillion connections tothe baloo db
14:25 john_minetest Ctrl+Alt+F1 is i3 for me.
14:33 Hirato 12011 file descriptors and counting
14:33 Hirato what idiot wrote this
14:34 Hirato don't write Java kids, or else your C++ will behave like this after
14:40 * sfan5 meows at john_minetest
14:40 * Jordach meows at VanessaE_
14:42 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a fishy <'((((-<
14:42 * sfan5 noms the fishy
14:45 * GhostDoge licks john_minetest
14:46 * john_minetest gives GhostDoge very steak, much bloody, such yummy
14:48 * GhostDoge noms such steak
14:49 * Krock wows. no server crashes over 20k seconds
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14:50 GhostDoge such server, much stable, wow
14:52 john_minetest WOAHG. Youtube is so slow again.
14:52 john_minetest I can't even see the epic walking box in HD :(
14:53 * Jordach happens to have a super powered version of TBM Reloaded :D
15:01 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5
15:02 Hirato sheez, 34K fds
15:03 sarcophilus joined #minetest
15:03 * sfan5 purrs at whiskers75
15:04 ^w joined #minetest
15:04 whiskers75 ^w: getUser('sfan5').then(hug);
15:04 ^w whiskers75: Rejected: no person found
15:04 sfan5 lel
15:04 whiskers75 sfan5, say something to ^w
15:04 sfan5 ^w: meow
15:04 ^w sfan5: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~sfan5@2a01:4f8:151:8106::2)
15:04 whiskers75 ^w: getUser('sfan5').then(hug);
15:04 * ^w hugs sfan5 <3
15:04 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
15:04 * whiskers75 meows at ^w
15:04 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5
15:04 * whiskers75 throws a sfan5 at ^w
15:05 whiskers75 ^w: getUser('sfan5').then(slap);
15:05 * sfan5 purrs at whiskers75
15:05 * ^w slaps sfan5 around a bit with a large trout!
15:05 * sfan5 gives ^w a kitten
15:05 * sfan5 throws a kitten at whiskers75
15:05 * whiskers75 purrs and rubs up against ^w
15:05 * whiskers75 yowls and hisses at sfan5
15:05 whiskers75 ^w: hug(me);
15:05 * ^w hugs whiskers75 <3
15:06 whiskers75 sfan5: :D javascript
15:06 sfan5 ^w: {} + []
15:06 ^w sfan5: 0
15:06 sfan5 makes sense
15:06 sfan5 ^w: [] + {}
15:06 ^w sfan5: '[object Object]'
15:07 markveidemanis ^w: print "hi"
15:07 ^w markveidemanis: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~markveide@unaffiliated/marktwain)
15:07 Hirato NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman!
15:07 markveidemanis ^w: print "hi"
15:07 ^w markveidemanis: 04[SyntaxError: Unexpected string] uncaught
15:07 whiskers75 ^w: print('hai');
15:07 ^w whiskers75: 'hai'
15:08 sfan5 ^w: [] + []
15:08 ^w sfan5: ''
15:08 KikaRz ...
15:08 sfan5 ^w: {} + {}
15:08 ^w sfan5: NaN
15:08 KikaRz stop the spam?
15:08 sfan5 mhm
15:08 Hirato ^w: (0 + "") * 16
15:08 ^w Hirato: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~hirato@106-68-86-71.dyn.iinet.net.au)
15:08 sfan5 whiskers75: please see https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
15:09 Hirato ^w: (0 + "") * 16
15:09 ^w Hirato: 0
15:09 KikaRz STOP THE SPAM!
15:09 Hirato ^w: "" + 0
15:09 ^w Hirato: '0'
15:09 whiskers75 ^w, part('#minetest'); //go to #wproject
15:09 Hirato hmmm....
15:09 ^w left #minetest
15:09 Hirato :(
15:09 whiskers75 play with it in #wproject, please :)
15:09 KikaRz That's so... :@
15:10 Hirato !rainbow you're all boring
15:10 MinetestBot 4y4o4u7'7r7e8 8a8l3l3 3bori6n6g
15:10 whiskers75 KikaRz: fine
15:11 KikaRz !rainbow Rainbowy Rainbowau Rainbowguy it's Hiratow!
15:11 MinetestBot 4R4a4i7n7b7o8w8y8 3R3a3inbo6w6a6u Ra4i4n4b7o7w7g8u8y8 3i3t3's H6i6r6atow4!
15:11 ^w joined #minetest
15:11 whiskers75 ^w is back
15:11 ^w whiskers75: 04[SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier] uncaught
15:11 whiskers75 .-.
15:11 KikaRz ^w: part('#minetest')
15:11 ^w KikaRz: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~KikaRz@unaffiliated/kikarz)
15:11 KikaRz ^w: part('#minetest')
15:11 ^w KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:11 KikaRz ^w: part
15:11 ^w KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:11 whiskers75 you need a permission level >= 9000 for that to be defined ;P
15:12 KikaRz ^w: part('#minetest'); //go to #wproject
15:12 ^w KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:12 ^w was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
15:12 ^w joined #minetest
15:12 KikaRz ^w: part('#minetest'); //go to #wproject
15:12 ^w KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:12 KikaRz ^w: part('#minetest'); //go to #wproject
15:12 KikaRz was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
15:12 ^w KikaRz: 04[ReferenceError: part is not defined] uncaught
15:12 Krock Spammer
15:12 KikaRz joined #minetest
15:12 Hirato lol
15:12 KikaRz fuck you
15:12 whiskers75 SPAMMER
15:12 whiskers75 ^w: getUser('KikaRz').then(smite);
15:12 * ^w smites KikaRz with his +5,+5 quarterstaff of chaos!
15:12 twoelk joined #minetest
15:13 KikaRz Ignoring...
15:14 Hirato ^w: array(16).join(1 + "wat")
15:14 ^w Hirato: 04[ReferenceError: array is not defined] uncaught
15:14 Hirato ^w: Array(16).join(1 + "wat")
15:14 ^w Hirato: '1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1w​at1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat'
15:14 whiskers75 lol
15:14 sfan5 can we please stop?
15:14 whiskers75 sfan5: do you wish to remove the ^w
15:15 sfan5 no
15:15 sfan5 as long as the abuse does not get too big
15:15 Hirato lucky last
15:15 Hirato ^w: Array(16).join("wat" - 1)
15:15 ^w Hirato: 'NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN'
15:15 Krock >^w: Array(160).join(1 + "wat")
15:15 Hirato Batman!
15:15 Tux[Qyou] joined #minetest
15:15 Krock ^w: Array(160).join(1 + "wat")
15:15 ^w Krock: Please repeat the command. (user created: ~krock@73-67.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch)
15:15 Krock ok dude.
15:15 Krock ^w: Array(160).join(1 + "wat")
15:15 ^w Krock: '1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1​wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wa​t1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1​wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat1wat... (more)
15:15 whiskers75 hahaha ;)
15:16 Krock I expected spam, got nil
15:16 KikaRz sfan5: do you wish to remove the ^w
15:16 KikaRz <sfan5> no
15:16 KikaRz <Hirato> lu
15:16 KikaRz fail
15:16 KikaRz http://tippvet.com/wp-content​/uploads/2013/05/cat-vet.jpg
15:16 Hirato ?
15:16 sfan5 KikaRz: would you stop highlighting me?
15:17 whiskers75 ^w: hug(me); //morale
15:17 * ^w hugs whiskers75 <3
15:17 Hirato hah
15:17 KikaRz sfan5, SHHH
15:18 whiskers75 I'll give you highlights...
15:18 KikaRz I've just errored when pasting here an image, sfan5.
15:18 Hirato no words, only emotions
15:18 whiskers75 ^w: Array(10000).join('KIKARZ! ');
15:18 ^w whiskers75: 'KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKARZ! KIKA... (more)
15:18 ^w was kicked by ShadowBot: Highlight flood detected.
15:18 ^w joined #minetest
15:18 whiskers75 :(
15:18 KikaRz whiskers, the bot is ignored
15:18 KikaRz -.-
15:18 Hirato poor bot
15:18 KikaRz idiot
15:18 Hirato he never asked for this
15:19 KikaRz I think he could be +b
15:19 whiskers75 sfan5: I can ban users if you email whiskers75+wproject@whiskers75.co.uk with evidence + timestamps
15:19 Krock ^w: Array(10000).join('Do ,08not spam, it's not nice!');
15:19 ^w Krock: 04[SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier] uncaught
15:19 CraigyDavi Woah what's going on with all this spam....
15:20 whiskers75 it's not spam
15:20 Hirato it's botsex
15:20 Krock )=/?%?/ ???
15:20 PilzAdam joined #minetest
15:21 whiskers75 I set KikaRz to banned
15:21 Hirato ^w: Array(2).join('lolol'); // d
15:21 ^w Hirato: '\u000312lolol'
15:21 Hirato cute
15:21 whiskers75 ^w: 'yay'
15:21 ^w whiskers75: '\u0002yay\u000f'
15:22 Hirato hope I didn't break it <_<
15:22 Krock I hope you did
15:22 PilzAdam wtf
15:22 whiskers75 Hirato: you didn't
15:22 whiskers75 hi PilzAdam
15:22 Hirato yay
15:22 PilzAdam is ^w a bot?
15:22 Jordach shit
15:22 whiskers75 yes
15:22 john_minetest \u0002?
15:22 whiskers75 john_minetest: REMOVE it
15:23 sfan5 john_minetest: wat r u doin?
15:23 whiskers75 if you want
15:23 Krock LOL
15:23 sfan5 uh no
15:23 john_minetest What am I doing?
15:23 ^w was kicked by Jordach: You should behave, ban might come soon.
15:23 whiskers75 if you want it to GTFO, remove it
15:23 sfan5 Jordach: wat r u doin
15:23 Jordach GTFO.
15:23 john_minetest Hey, I want op back!
15:23 sfan5 !op john_minetest
15:23 sfan5 here you go
15:23 john_minetest :3 thx
15:23 sfan5 meow
15:23 whiskers75 Play with ^w in #wproject, then
15:23 sfan5 !deop john_minetest
15:23 * whiskers75 hisses at sfan5.
15:23 john_minetest :(
15:23 * sfan5 purrs at whiskers75
15:23 PilzAdam !kick ^w no bots
15:23 * whiskers75 hisses at sfan5.
15:23 Jordach PilzAdam, already done
15:23 PilzAdam oh, too late
15:24 KikaRz PilzAdam, #
15:24 * whiskers75 purrs at sfan5
15:24 KikaRz <3
15:24 * sfan5 gives whiskers75 a kitten
15:24 * whiskers75 meows
15:24 KikaRz I love you, you just murdered a bot that spams the whole channel
15:24 whiskers75 Jordach: You can remove the ban; I won't join it again
15:24 Jordach bullshit
15:24 KikaRz No, dont remove!
15:24 * sfan5 throws https://mediacru.sh/PXhXu2AoUmVA at whiskers75
15:24 whiskers75 Jordach: ._.
15:24 whiskers75 Jordach: you really don't trust me/supermat (the only people with >9000)
15:25 sfan5 !op
15:25 sfan5 !deop sfan5
15:26 whiskers75 Mkay, goin' afk. #wproject if you want to screw with ^w.
15:27 PilzAdam ##minetestbot > #wproject
15:28 Hirato but this one can sing batman!
15:28 sfan5 Hirato: I'm open to pull requests
15:29 Jordach !c "na " * 16
15:29 MinetestBot 'na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na '
15:29 MinetestBot BATMAN!
15:29 Jordach suck it
15:29 Hirato Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + ' Batman!' ;)
15:29 GhostDoge !c  10 * '/me'
15:29 MinetestBot '/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me'
15:29 sfan5 that is not how it owkrs
15:29 Hirato lol
15:29 sfan5 works*
15:30 GhostDoge !c  10 * '/me' + you
15:30 MinetestBot NameError: name 'you' is not defined
15:30 GhostDoge !c  10 * '/me' + 'you'
15:30 MinetestBot '/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/me/meyou'
15:31 Krock -> !c 9**9 * 'xD'
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15:35 Megaf sfan5: Morming
15:36 sfan5 hi
15:36 Megaf morning*
15:36 sfan5 it's 17:36, not morning
15:36 Calinou Megaf is in America? TIL
15:36 Megaf sfan5: None of my 3 servers are showing up on he server list, any idea on how can we discover what's going on?
15:37 Megaf Calinou: South America, is 12:36 now, or, good afternoon
15:37 sfan5 Megaf: try starting them with --verbose
15:37 sfan5 then paste the log
15:37 Calinou you need cURL to announce?
15:37 Calinou yay, I found back most of my reddit karma
15:37 Megaf Calinou: if that's true, that would be the reason
15:38 Calinou 8 points on a comment, 3 on another
15:38 sfan5 yes you do
15:38 Megaf I compiled my server without curl, since I don't use it
15:39 Megaf Compiling with curl now
15:42 Megaf What the heck happened here?
15:42 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/96011/
15:43 Krock Buildcraft player happened
15:44 Megaf players shouldnt be able to put a server down!
15:44 Calinou preventing and fixing crashes is easier to say than to do
15:45 Megaf Calinou: I know that
15:45 Megaf man, it's going to take forever to recompile my Raspberry server
15:45 Calinou moreores used to crash when generating mithril, due to a… division by zero
15:48 GhostDoge I have no idea how my friend is able to find masses of diamonds at -32 on nearly every server he joins
15:48 Calinou GhostDoge, they don't spawn here; they're lying
15:49 Calinou before believing them, ask for proof
15:50 GhostDoge Calinou: I've seen how he found the diamonds on 0gb.us
15:50 Calinou mod?
15:54 GhostDoge Calinou: https://github.com/0gb-us/0gb.us_​game/tree/master/0gb.us_game/mods
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16:02 sapier hello does anyone out there have a 3d screen using polarization?
16:02 markveidemanis nope
16:02 john_minetest nope.png
16:03 markveidemanis You can't polarize a screen both ways
16:03 markveidemanis That'll block all light
16:03 markveidemanis You'd have to polarize each pixel
16:03 markveidemanis or strips lol
16:03 markveidemanis i admit idk how its done
16:04 VanessaE_ screens are polarized in sections.
16:04 sapier it's done by adding a foil polarizing odd/even lines different ways
16:04 VanessaE_ exactly.
16:04 sapier resulting in a 1920x1080 screen beeing 1920x540
16:04 john_minetest Hey VanessaE_
16:04 VanessaE_ hi
16:05 sapier I've written code to support this mode, but without anyone else testing it it's hard to know if it's working only for me
16:05 john_minetest VanessaE_: How can I get a special skin on your servers?
16:05 john_minetest *custom skin
16:06 VanessaE_ john_minetest: give me a link to a skin and remind me of the exact spelling/case of your in-game name
16:06 VanessaE_ I'll install it and it'll be available tomorrow
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16:11 Megaf Calinou: sfan5: Yep, I needed indeed to compile with curl, thanks a million!
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16:12 Calinou :)
16:13 Exio4 closed software is shit
16:14 Calinou it really is
16:14 Exio4 there is an old hw/sw that is a bit.. expensive to upgrade
16:15 Exio4 the software and hardware work
16:15 Exio4 small issue though, full of bugs, and very limited space for settings
16:15 kaeza afternoons
16:15 rubenwardy Hi all!
16:16 Exio4 hi kaeza
16:16 Megaf Hey rubenwardy
16:17 Exio4 and reverse engineering is a nice thing to do when you do it for fun
16:17 * kaeza hugs Exio4
16:17 kaeza hai rubenwardy
16:17 * Exio4 hugs kaeza back
16:17 Exio4 hi rubenwardy
16:18 Exio4 if i had the source code i could just rewrite the interface and i would have the logic already done
16:18 Calinou hi kaeza
16:19 kaeza o/
16:19 Calinou kaeza, 14 pages done in French on wiki already :P you're far away now
16:19 kaeza :<
16:19 Exio4 quality over quantity
16:19 Exio4 :3
16:19 markveidemanis What's the leveldb package for minetest debian?
16:20 sfan5 minetest debian?
16:20 * kaeza runs the entire wiki thru google translate
16:20 markveidemanis minetest on debian linux!
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16:24 sfan5 markveidemanis: libleveldb-dev
16:25 markveidemanis thanks
16:26 Calinou Exio4, they are well-done
16:27 Exio4 i want to say something against you ok?
16:34 Calinou TIL SmallJoker is Krock
16:36 Jordach what a Krock of shit :P
16:38 Megaf 24 players on my test game and counting
16:39 Megaf proller: My server will have more players than yours, soon
16:39 Jordach Megaf, feeling upto a BFD super stress test?
16:39 Megaf BFD?
16:39 Megaf Jordach: still normal minetest engine...
16:39 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=9036
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16:40 werwerwer I don't know where to complain, so i'll just leave it here. Sheeps in PilzAdams'es mobs mod. They are cute and such, and good source of food. In fact they are so good source of food that farming (which is also by PA) becomes ineffective. Wheat is difficult to grow, bread takes insane amount of coal to get baked, and restore not so much hps as meat does. It's kinda unbalanced, no? You'll never see wheat fields on survival servers
16:40 werwerwer with mobs installed. I do love farming, and these stupid sheeps constantly ruins my wheat business.
16:41 PilzAdam >PilzAdams'es
16:41 werwerwer oh..
16:41 * Jordach stealth nerfs it for BFD
16:41 werwerwer so it shoud be "PilzAdam's"
16:42 Megaf werwerwer: That's shy I have a 99% automated plantation
16:43 arsdragonfly So what do sheep live on? Grass?
16:43 Megaf it grows cactus to use as fuel, then take the cactus and put them on furnaces
16:43 Megaf and my game is the number one already
16:43 Megaf lol
16:44 werwerwer I guess that involves things as mesecons, technic, pipeworks and so on?
16:44 Megaf http://servers.minetest.net/
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16:46 werwerwer "your game?" Did you mean your server?
16:47 Megaf werwerwer: both
16:47 Megaf I made a new server testing a new game I'm making
16:47 Megaf I'm writing a topic about it right now
16:48 werwerwer I'd like to take a look
16:48 werwerwer Is it on gihub yet?
16:48 Megaf yep
16:50 werwerwer ah... RPi
16:51 Megaf yep
16:51 Exio4 RPi = rip
16:52 GhostDoge Megaf: does RPi use MGv7
16:53 GhostDoge +?
16:53 john_minetest Mathematisch korrekt:
16:53 john_minetest 1!=1
16:53 GhostDoge Auch korrekt: 10 != 10
16:54 rubenwardy I love food, werwerwer.
16:54 john_minetest 10!=3628800
16:54 john_minetest Und das stimmt.
16:54 GhostDoge wow!
16:54 john_minetest much maths
16:55 john_minetest solch mathe
16:55 john_minetest sehr berechnung
16:55 john_minetest viel kompliziert
16:55 john_minetest wow
16:56 werwerwer rubenwardy, i love food too
16:56 werwerwer we should totally hang out together? or what are you trying to say?
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16:56 Megaf GhostDoge: it uses the mapgen you want
16:57 Calinou hi rubenwardy
16:57 markveidemanis 17:56:56: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?)
16:57 rubenwardy_ Hi all!
16:57 rubenwardy_ Router problem :(
16:57 sfan5 markveidemanis: port already in use
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16:57 markveidemanis How do i un-use it
16:58 markveidemanis I did ctrl+z to stop server
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16:59 Calinou you should use Ctrl+C
16:59 Calinou Ctrl+Z is suspend
17:01 markveidemanis oh
17:01 markveidemanis did not know that
17:01 markveidemanis i though it was force kill
17:03 GhostDoge markveidemanis: for a force kill send your server signal 11 :p
17:05 lordcirth markveidemanis, type "fg" in command line to resume ,then you can kill it
17:06 Exio4 GhostDoge: 9*
17:07 markveidemanis !up sockbat.noip.me
17:07 MinetestBot sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (124ms)
17:07 john_minetest OMG!
17:07 john_minetest fg is so awesome!
17:07 Exio4 kill -9 -1
17:08 Megaf werwerwer: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=9192
17:08 markveidemanis !up sockbat.noip.me
17:08 MinetestBot sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (355ms)
17:08 GhostDoge Exio4: signal 11 works just fine :>
17:09 Calinou Carbone now has faster air acceleration (2.5,) same as ground, makes it faster than in default
17:09 Calinou feels better and easier to control
17:09 Calinou the collision glitches are less punishing
17:09 Exio4 signal 9 is force-kill, signal 11 is.. segfault iirc
17:09 Calinou signal 8!
17:09 Exio4 lemme check
17:10 GhostDoge I know that it's SIGSEGV
17:10 Megaf 27 players is way too much for my 100 KB/s upstream
17:10 Exio4 http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?signal+7
17:10 whiskers75 sfan5: ping
17:10 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001
17:10 werwerwer ah! Megaf i get it. Your game doesn't have mobs and never will?
17:10 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (931ms)
17:11 sfan5 whiskers75: pong
17:11 whiskers75 sfan5: after I went afk, did ^w cause any troubles?
17:11 Megaf werwerwer: only if someone manage to make a decent mobs mod
17:11 Megaf lol, 27 is way too much and theres 32 to players now
17:11 werwerwer u mean lightweight? haha
17:12 * Jordach signs in on purpose :D
17:12 whiskers75 Jordach: D:
17:12 Megaf actually theres not much lag, problem is, the world is not "loading"
17:13 celeron55 ...aand done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBi-6TBgUv4
17:13 whiskers75 celeron55?!
17:13 whiskers75 The creator of minetest?!
17:13 celeron55 !title
17:13 MinetestBot celeron55: Minetest map generator mod &quot;Watershed&quot; fly-over - YouTube
17:13 whiskers75 Lo
17:13 whiskers75 :O
17:13 sfan5 whiskers75: I don't think so
17:14 Calinou <Megaf> 27 players is way too much for my 100 KB/s upstream
17:14 whiskers75 you wot
17:14 Calinou I have 40 KB/s upstream... :phoronix rolleyes:
17:14 Calinou whiskers75, he is not a god
17:14 whiskers75 Calinou: Earlier, I let loose my JS bot ;P
17:15 * sfan5 purrs at whiskers75
17:15 whiskers75 Calinou: no, I just like projects which have *active* lead developers
17:15 * whiskers75 hugs sfan5 and meows at celeron55
17:15 markveidemanis !up sockbat.noip.me
17:15 MinetestBot sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (251ms)
17:15 markveidemanis really?
17:15 whiskers75 markveidemanis: really?
17:15 sfan5 <random> I got cross-compiled 64bit builds of Minetest to work </random>
17:15 whiskers75 sfan5: You got cross-compiling to work?!
17:16 sfan5 yepo
17:16 sfan5 -o
17:16 sfan5 I even compiled mingw32 and mingw64 myself
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17:16 celeron55 is that much harder than 32-bit? because 32-bit is ridiculously easy
17:16 sfan5 kinda
17:16 sfan5 mingw32 had w32api and mingw-rt precompiled
17:16 whiskers75 sfan5: now....cross compile....for....raspberry pi
17:17 sfan5 for mingw64 I had to compile gcc w/o libgcc && compile mingw64-rt && compile gcc this time w/ libgcc
17:17 sfan5 whiskers75: rpi is too slow
17:17 whiskers75 no, CROSS COMPILE
17:17 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GmijgAboGz6C
17:17 Calinou did a video today
17:17 sfan5 whiskers75: rpi is too slow to run mt
17:17 sfan5 you can cross-compile for rpi btw
17:18 Megaf sfan5: for client, yes indeed, under X11
17:18 sfan5 just use arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc
17:18 Megaf not for server
17:18 whiskers75 sfan5: cross compile _server_
17:18 sfan5 too slow too
17:18 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30002
17:18 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30002 is up (698ms)
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17:18 sfan5 celeron55: do you know of any reason BanManager might suddenly fail to open the file under win64?
17:18 sfan5 +why
17:19 celeron55 no
17:19 sfan5 hm :s
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17:23 Jordach hello Krock
17:24 Krock hi Jordach
17:24 * sfan5 meows at Krock
17:24 * Krock chirps at sfan5
17:24 markveidemanis 18:24:39: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(5/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 2 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)
17:25 Krock known error -^
17:25 markveidemanis conf: http://pastie.org/9117615
17:25 sfan5 markveidemanis: simply ignore that errir
17:25 sfan5 error*
17:25 markveidemanis Ok
17:25 markveidemanis But sometimes i can't connect
17:25 Jordach HO SHIT
17:25 Krock I like your system. Windows.
17:26 * Jordach noticed a boost in Download bandwidth
17:27 * Jordach mobilises DJ Hero 1/2 Soundtracks on his tablet (instant DJ mode, minus the need for the 360, discs and decks)
17:27 * GhostDoge slaps Jordach for having a higher bandwith
17:28 * Krock steals bandwith or Jordach
17:29 * Krock puts it in a bag.
17:29 markveidemanis I can't connect and sometimes timeout
17:29 * Krock puts the bag into a safe.
17:29 Jordach btw, you're fucked next year: Fibre is coming in 1.34 years
17:29 * Krock closes the safe and flushes the key down the toilet.
17:31 Calinou * Jordach noticed a boost in Download bandwidth
17:31 Calinou last time this happened here was in October 2012
17:31 Calinou Jordach, I bet on november for herE.
17:31 Calinou here*
17:31 * Calinou updates Krock's PC to Windows 8.1 Update 1
17:31 markveidemanis could this be made more efficient: http://pastie.org/9117624
17:32 Calinou they can't count to 2 at Microsoft ;)
17:32 * GhostDoge only notices nerfs in download bandwidth
17:32 Krock lol
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17:32 Krock they only can ount to 8.
17:32 Krock t1
17:32 sfan5 Jordach: we have fibre in the city I live in, but not in the street/area where I live
17:33 Calinou some buildings near me may have it
17:33 Calinou I'm in a house, not in a flat; makes it harder
17:34 celeron55 markveidemanis: well, if your goal is to make minetest do as little as it can, you should raise dedicated_server_step
17:34 markveidemanis ok
17:34 markveidemanis How do i reload conf in game?
17:34 Krock Megaf, are you running that RPi server?
17:34 sfan5 markveidemanis: you can't
17:35 celeron55 markveidemanis: not possible, and be careful as it may overwrite your changes when you shut it down
17:35 celeron55 (i don't know how the server works these days for that part)
17:36 markveidemanis dedicated_server_step = 0.4
17:36 markveidemanis Anything else?
17:37 Jordach Calinou, same here, but BT is forced too :)
17:38 markveidemanis !up sockbat.noip.me
17:38 MinetestBot sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (271ms)
17:38 markveidemanis good
17:38 Krock markveidemanis, what's the map save interval?
17:38 markveidemanis 15.3
17:38 Krock increase to 300
17:38 Krock gains a lot speed
17:38 markveidemanis how long is 15.3?
17:39 sfan5 15.3 seconds
17:39 sfan5 Krock: it does not gain a lot of speed
17:39 sfan5 it only saves the map fewer times
17:39 Krock 15 seconds and 20s
17:40 Krock sfan5, well it generates more internal server lag if i lower the value
17:40 sfan5 not really
17:40 sfan5 <Krock> 15 seconds and 20s
17:40 sfan5 wat
17:40 sfan5 ..nvm
17:40 Krock *18
17:40 Krock no
17:40 markveidemanis woah
17:41 markveidemanis Okay
17:41 Krock 20
17:41 Calinou increasing server save time could be tried, to like 30 seconds
17:41 Calinou I'd give it a try on a large server to see
17:41 Calinou we need to pin down Minetest lag :'(
17:41 markveidemanis il try 300
17:42 Calinou I'm still afraid of the lag due to mobs
17:42 Calinou maybe 120 seconds
17:42 Calinou at most
17:42 markveidemanis no, 300
17:42 Calinou don't lose too much data if the server crashes
17:42 markveidemanis hmm
17:42 markveidemanis Won't crash
17:42 markveidemanis Hmm
17:42 Krock 5 mins ofsave delay are fine
17:43 markveidemanis okay den
17:43 Jordach Calinou, i haven't seen much lag with Simple Mobs
17:43 GhostDoge markveidemanis: if you use sqlite this is helpful "sqlite_synchronous = 0"
17:43 markveidemanis What does that do?
17:45 Krock corrupts maps even faster. nah it speeds up a bit
17:45 GhostDoge lemme quote celeron55 "disabling part of the nuclear bomb proof write checking"
17:45 markveidemanis okay den
17:45 Calinou Jordach, I used to, on some servers :/ maybe it's fixed now
17:46 celeron55 that will help considerably on slow flash memory
17:46 Calinou I'd like to see a large server running Carbone to see; I have many other potentially heavy mods, such as armour and wieldview
17:46 Calinou no Mesecons, at least... ;)
17:46 Jordach i've noticed a HUGE EXPLOSION of games for minetest
17:46 sfan5 that is only b/c minetest_game is frozen
17:47 GhostDoge I like dat explosion
17:48 markveidemanis !up sockbat.noip.me
17:48 MinetestBot sockbat.noip.me:30000 is up (284ms)
17:48 markveidemanis Last time
17:48 markveidemanis DOne now
17:48 Calinou Jordach, it means they have the TNT mod installed. :)
17:48 Calinou I like having more games
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17:50 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/E0Hpw6OpWTH1.png
17:50 Jordach Calinou, i'm considering a space based game ;)
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17:51 Jordach some random asteroids and the occasional planetoid :P
17:52 CraigyDavi What does everyone think of this: http://i.imgur.com/sIObjUj.jpg
17:52 Calinou spaaaace
17:52 twoelk that needs a nice skybox to work visually
17:52 Calinou CraigyDavi, the “WELCOME” is obnoxious
17:53 markveidemanis Yeah, remove the black bit
17:53 CraigyDavi Yes I think ill change that but apart from that it should be all done
17:53 Calinou waiting 2 minutes for it to disappear is a bit much, I'd say 30 seconds
17:53 Calinou or 1 min
17:53 twoelk CraigDavi: or maybe add a border around the header
17:53 CraigyDavi Well you can just press sneak to get rid of it
17:54 CraigyDavi I'll work on the header. Did it all from scratch :)
17:55 twoelk maybe a row of those circle stones around the header
17:55 twoelk squares with dots, whatever
17:56 CraigyDavi Ok
17:57 john_minetest Welcome on transparent ground might look better, CraigyDavi
17:57 CraigyDavi yeah i'm doing that now. I think ill choose a lighter colour too
18:00 * twoelk looks at them flame edges and wonders how they will work on transparent
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18:02 Calinou just noticed this: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=8638
18:03 Calinou ...after I did tons of tweaks to Simple Mobs
18:03 DS_ hi
18:03 Calinou also, I'd like to take the tool wear thingy, but not sure how to
18:03 DS_ cayou :3
18:03 Calinou hi DS_
18:03 DS_ :D
18:03 DS_ sy
18:03 DS_ sry*
18:06 Megaf Krock: The RPi server is mine yes, it's running on my main desktop, just for testing
18:06 DS_ i forgot how to join other channels
18:06 Krock Megaf, ok. the chunk per client/server loading variable was just a >litttle< too less
18:06 Krock DS_: /join #channel
18:06 Megaf Krock: how do I fix that?
18:07 DS_ thx:D
18:08 BlockMen Calinou, creatures > simple mobs :P
18:08 Jordach BlockMen, unless the models are nicked :D
18:08 Krock Megaf, max_simultaneous_block_sends_per_client = 10     max_simultaneous_block_sends_server_total = 60
18:08 Calinou doesn't line of sight slow down things a lot?
18:09 BlockMen Calinou, i only call when they want punch player
18:09 Calinou BlockMen, is it faster? what does it do that Simple Mobs can't do?
18:09 Calinou apart of tool wear and line of sight
18:09 BlockMen well, its has less mobs but more quality (IMO)^^
18:09 Calinou (I'd like to add both to Simple Mobs, but not idea)
18:09 Megaf Krock: ok, I will try that
18:09 Calinou no idea*
18:10 BlockMen Calinou, compare the sheeps for example
18:10 BlockMen then you know what i mean
18:10 Calinou yeah, they do eat grass
18:10 Megaf Krock: I just set to 8 and 100
18:11 Megaf server restarted
18:11 Calinou in Simple Mobs, you feed them wheat to make their wool re-grow and shear with right click
18:11 Calinou it makes sense too
18:11 Megaf now I gotta go, cya
18:11 Calinou I see creatures has knockback, but there's no knockback when attacking players (it's impossible) and it doesn't make sense anyway
18:11 Krock bye.
18:12 Calinou stun would make sense (reduce or reset speed when hit), but not knockback
18:12 BlockMen knockback may not be realistic, but it makes more fun to fight with it
18:13 Calinou it's also fun to have to escape while fighting \o/
18:13 Calinou it makes the mobs in Carbone really frightening to fight
18:13 Calinou because you have to walk back while attacking, in a cave, that's not easy
18:14 BlockMen Calinou, yes, that is right. and its not that way that you dont have to run too
18:14 BlockMen *atleast when there is more than 1 mob
18:14 BlockMen but w/e, i just wanted make ad ^^
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18:14 sfan5 o/ jordan4ibanez
18:16 Calinou you rarely meet several enemies at once in Carbone, but when you do, it's hard to fight them
18:16 Calinou the mobs are fairly rare encounters (like 0.3.1), but they are hard to fight (unlike 0.3.1)
18:16 Calinou lots of HP, quite a lot of damage (to compensate armor)
18:16 Calinou I recently added a mob that quickly shoots fast bullets, very strong
18:17 BlockMen seems i should test last version of carbone ;)
18:17 Calinou sfan5, phpBB allows you to specify edit reasons, no need for “Edit:” below
18:17 sfan5 ah
18:17 sfan5 can users see those?
18:17 Calinou BlockMen, I added quite a lot of mobs too (and merges from minetest_next); it got heavier indeed, but not too heavy, I try to watch out for heaviness
18:18 Calinou sfan5, yes
18:18 Calinou BlockMen, also see https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GmijgAboGz6C
18:18 Calinou (arrows)
18:20 BlockMen Calinou, lol. really interesting (the arrows) ;D
18:21 DS_ bye
18:22 jordan4ibanez sfan5: \o
18:23 Calinou I changed bow sound, as you can hear
18:23 Calinou PilzAdam, you could commit it to your throwing mod
18:27 Krock woo 3rd client crash today..new record
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18:39 Calinou it almost never crashes here
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18:50 EvergreenTree oh Calinou, you were asking for modder's feedback right?
18:51 EvergreenTree I think being able to control player physics in mods would be great
18:51 EvergreenTree as in pushing and pulling the player
18:51 EvergreenTree or setting the player velocity
18:52 EvergreenTree or would that have the same problem as getting the player velocity?
18:52 Krock EvergreenTree, or do it like the car(t)s mod
18:53 EvergreenTree Krock: players are different than entities in some waysw
18:53 EvergreenTree *ways
18:53 EvergreenTree you can't change player velocity
18:53 EvergreenTree only a registered entitie's velocity
18:53 Krock EvergreenTree, well somehow the carts manage it to transport players
18:53 Calinou EvergreenTree, I'm not a core dev :P
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18:53 EvergreenTree Krock: it just attatches the player to the cart
18:53 Calinou setting player velocity is likely possible
18:53 Calinou however, getting it is impossible
18:54 Calinou (per recent discussion in #minetest-dev)
18:54 Krock EvergreenTree, do it the hacky way and attack another thing to theplayer :3
18:54 Krock *attach
18:54 EvergreenTree Krock: that could work
18:54 EvergreenTree still, hacky
18:54 EvergreenTree I prefer using stable means
18:54 EvergreenTree :p
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18:55 EvergreenTree that is probably a hacky way of getting player velocity too
18:55 EvergreenTree not reliable though
18:55 markveidemanis !up sockbat.noip.me
18:55 MinetestBot sockbat.noip.me:30000 seems to be down
18:55 markveidemanis goddammit
18:58 sfan5 EvergreenTree: save the position of the player each globalstep
18:58 sfan5 the difference between previous_pos and pos is the velocity
18:58 EvergreenTree good idea
18:59 sfan5 that is very hacky
18:59 sfan5 but works
18:59 sfan5 I dunno how good it works however
19:00 EvergreenTree would you be able to run a piece of code if said velocity is greater than something?
19:05 lordcirth EvergreenTree, well, the server already teleports people back to where they were, if they move too fast
19:05 lordcirth Which is really annoying when you're trying to teleport a friend to you
19:06 sfan5 lordcirth: cheat protection does not affect /teleport
19:06 lordcirth sfan5, it did a year or so ago
19:06 sfan5 your friend needs to stand still for teleporting
19:06 lordcirth sfan5, that could be.
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19:12 Krock Lol demonstrants got blocked by demonstrants
19:12 * Krock is reading news
19:17 jin_xi RL?
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19:19 Jordach kahRL is in Real Life :)
19:19 Calinou <sfan5> EvergreenTree: save the position of the player each globalstep
19:19 Calinou <sfan5> the difference between previous_pos and pos is the velocity
19:19 Calinou very slow?
19:19 Calinou don't on_step and globalstep stuff slow down the server a lot?
19:19 sfan5 a bit
19:19 Calinou (I toned it down a bit in my Simple Mobs copy)
19:20 sfan5 Jordach: I now provide 64 bit windows builds
19:20 Calinou finally
19:20 Jordach BlockMen FTW
19:20 Jordach >:D
19:20 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
19:20 BlockMen :)
19:20 * BlockMen has a fan^^
19:21 * sfan5 has a fan too
19:21 sfan5 but it isn't plugged in
19:24 * Calinou has 3 case fans
19:25 CraigyDavi lol
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19:28 Calinou they are 5 V, so they're not so excited about it
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19:28 Jordach wb jordan4ibanez
19:28 sfan5 Calinou: put 9v on them
19:28 * sfan5 purrs at jordan4ibanez
19:28 Calinou useless
19:28 Calinou 5 V works fine, cools well
19:29 Calinou quietest
19:30 jordan4ibanez Whoa mang
19:36 Jordach jordan4ibanez, i found my old city build 1 map around here
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19:38 ShadowNinja <PilzAdam> !kick ^w no bots -- Not true.  It's no *unauthorized* bots.  Where authorization would involve getting the agreement of a few ops.
19:38 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: ^w is not in #minetest.
19:38 ShadowNinja That ^ BTW is a trick I came up with for Minetest servers.
19:38 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, too long kick messages are boring ;-)
19:38 ShadowNinja <Test> !ping
19:38 ShadowBot Test@ShadowNinja: pong
19:40 Exio4 <ShadowNinja> !op Exio4
19:40 ShadowBot Exio4: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:40 Exio4 aww
19:40 BlockMen lol
19:41 BlockMen how everyone tries to have op
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19:46 john_minetest !echo lol
19:46 john_minetest ~op john_minetest
19:46 ShadowBot john_minetest: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:46 john_minetest I have. You are lying.
19:47 john_minetest You are a defect robot. Op me immediately and leave the channel.
19:47 john_minetest ~oh john_minetest
19:47 john_minetest ~op john_minetest
19:47 ShadowBot john_minetest: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:47 * BlockMen lols again
19:48 john_minetest ShadowBot: You are ignoring the second law of robotics: A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the Previous Laws.
19:49 john_minetest Giving me op would neither harm humans nor humanity.
19:49 Jordach clearly asking for OP is actually a possible harm to the channel
19:49 VanessaE_ but you are ignoring the third law:
19:49 john_minetest ShadowBot: You are defective, leave immediately.
19:49 VanessaE_ a robot must protect itself.
19:49 VanessaE_ (provided this doesn't conflict with the first or second law)
19:50 john_minetest Or the Law number zero.
19:50 john_minetest "0. A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm."
19:50 Jordach ShadowNinja, this sentence is false.
19:50 Jordach ShadowBot, this sentence is false.
19:50 ShadowBot Jordach: O.K.
19:50 john_minetest ~part
19:50 ShadowBot john_minetest: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:51 john_minetest Defective bots must be fixed or destroyed.
19:51 john_minetest *grmln* Those bots today...
19:53 john_minetest And I thought people learned something from films like "I, robot".
19:53 john_minetest 3 laws are important-
19:53 VanessaE_ maybe ShadowBot is built like Sonny? :)
19:53 VanessaE_ able to ignore those laws :P
19:55 Enke What if shadowbot was built like a reploid, with independant thought?
19:57 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for dpi based HUD scaling 1838a3fd69 2014-04-27T21:53:13+02:00 http://git.io/-hm-jw
19:57 ShadowNinja ~this sentence
19:58 ShadowBot this sentence is false.
19:58 ShadowNinja ~BlockMen
19:58 ShadowNinja Hmmm, other channel.
19:58 john_minetest https://en.wikipedia.org/wi​ki/Heisenbug#Related_terms
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19:59 stormchaser3000 hi
19:59 BlockMen ShadowNinja, wut?
19:59 ShadowNinja BlockMen: Someone added a factoid about you.
19:59 stormchaser3000 ShadowNinja can you plaese log into my server for a few seconds so i can grant you all privs
20:00 stormchaser3000 oh wait
20:00 stormchaser3000 sorry this is not the place to say thi
20:00 stormchaser3000 this*
20:00 * stormchaser3000 thought he was on inchra.net
20:00 john_minetest ShadowNinja: ShadowBot isn't three-laws-safe.
20:01 john_minetest (or four-laws-safe)
20:01 ShadowNinja john_minetest: How so?
20:02 john_minetest ShadowBot doesn't let me do ~op
20:02 john_minetest This is against the second law.
20:02 john_minetest First (and zeroth) law aren't broken.
20:02 john_minetest ;P
20:02 john_minetest ~op
20:02 ShadowBot john_minetest: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:07 VanessaE_ but ShadowBot is protecting itself.
20:07 VanessaE_ you might use op to kick it from the channel :)
20:07 ShadowNinja ;ShadowBot is protecting other users of the channel.
20:08 ShadowNinja She can't trust you.
20:08 ShadowNinja Therefore it would be unsafe to op you.
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20:47 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix rounding issue of hud dpi on some machines 65016c880c 2014-04-27T22:44:37+02:00 http://git.io/qSIBBg
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21:23 crazyR is there anyway to ame mesecons blinky plants less laggy
21:23 crazyR *make
21:23 sapier not yet
21:24 crazyR is there a way to gt the same effect inside a luacontroller?
21:28 sapier sorry I don't know anything about luacontroler
21:28 crazyR no worries thanks anyway
21:34 lordcirth crazyR, Yes, you can use interrupts as timers
21:35 lordcirth crazyR, mem.on = not mem.on; interrupt(1,"timer"); port.a = mem.on
21:35 lordcirth Or something close
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21:37 specing crazyR: try an inverted (NOT gate) after a delayer
21:37 specing it worked like a charm on freeminer, so I expect it should rock on minetest
21:38 crazyR done that before, i used to stick a andgate between the loop so that we could swtch it off easier. not sure if it reduces lag though
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21:43 CraigyDavi Hi all
21:44 lordcirth So, I have made a terminal that lets you easily communicate with a luacontroller over a (very primitive) command line.
21:45 lordcirth However, programming the luacontroller with useful command line features, in game, is too hard.
21:46 lordcirth So I am thinking about adding "shortcut" functions to the luacontroller, any ideas?
21:52 lordcirth How about this:  a specific variable name, say "cmds" that is a table of (string,string)'s which lets you alias a string to a piece of lua, which will be executed when you call, say, alias("on").
21:53 lordcirth It would lookup the alias for "on", say "port.a = true" and run it.
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22:19 BlockMen good night
22:19 BlockMen left #minetest
22:21 john_minetest cya
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23:12 ShadowNinja lol http://goo.gl/3Xpjnn
23:13 VanessaE_ gevalt
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23:18 Megaf_ kahRL: That thing about max simultaneous blocks worked fine, thanks
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