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01:01 Megaf_ Folks, I need a good software to record my desktop
01:01 Megaf_ for Linux
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01:15 EvergreenTree Megaf: simplescreenrecorder
01:15 EvergreenTree the best there is
01:20 Megaf celeron55: Hi, what did you use to record the mapgen video?
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01:38 stormchaser3000 hi
01:52 VanessaE_ Official Release -- Dreambuilder Game: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=15&t=9196
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06:25 CraigyDavi :/ http://i.imgur.com/kj4WW91.png
06:41 celeron55 MegAFK: ffmpeg -video_size 1920x1080 -framerate 6 -f x11grab -i :0.0+0,0 -f alsa -ac 2 -i pulse -vcodec libx264 out_$(date +%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S).avi
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08:01 pandaro hi all
08:01 pandaro it seems to me that someone on the forum hype with spam
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09:52 Mikerhinos numpad keys will be fixed one day on Linux ?
09:55 Mikerhinos Because my son can't type my server address : "7" won't work on numpad or normal key :s and ctrl+v won't paste anything
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10:13 Mikerhinos workaround is a bit annoying :s
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10:27 specing Mikerhinos: Im surprised anyone still uses numpads...
10:30 Mikerhinos on french layout it's easier, we don't have to press shift+è we just use numpad
10:32 specing ah the backward french....
11:13 Exio4 the whole azerty keyboard doesn't work as expected afaik
11:25 crazyR is there a reason why my server isnt generating and lava lakes, i used standard mpgen v6 settings
11:29 pitriss Mikerhinos: there was some patch for irrlicht
11:30 Mikerhinos pitriss: using the US keyboard workaround for now
11:31 pitriss Mikerhinos: which fixes numpad (but that broken "7" and in czech layout also "4" are still broken)
11:32 Mikerhinos in french layout almost all numpad keys are broken, and I think standard num keys "7" and "9" are broken :s
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11:44 Hirato unless it's changed, I think the numpad's pretty broken on qwerty too
11:45 Hirato hmm... guess not, it's doing some quick-tune thing now..
11:46 Hirato oh nah, it's pretty broken, ususally doing home/end/whatever rather than the numbers
11:46 Hirato 3 and 9 work normally though it seems
11:46 Hirato so r00fles
11:49 pitriss grr i can't find which line should be changed in irrlicht..
12:09 pitriss Mikerhinos: if you are using linux and irrlicht 1.8.1 then change file irrlicht-1.8.1/source/Irrlicht/CIrrDeviceLinux.cpp line 1052 from: event.xkey.state = 0; to event.xkey.state &= ~(ControlMask|ShiftMask);
12:10 pitriss ther recompile irrlicht, minetest and you should have functional numpad
12:13 Exio4 ha
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12:34 Megaf Hi everyone
12:35 Megaf celeron55: Yep, I'm doing quite the same, but with framerate 14, and still slow, does the framerate option actually work?
12:38 Exio4 use 30
12:38 Exio4 40,, 44, or whatever
12:38 Exio4 60 fps would be nice tho
12:38 Exio4 your screen hz :P
12:40 Megaf Exio4: Hi, You know I'm talking about screen capture using ffmpeg?
12:41 celeron55 Exio4: you probably don't have enough CPU performance for encoding at the same time as capturing
12:42 Exio4 depends of the encoder
12:42 celeron55 if you can't find a fast enough encoder, throw a "-vf scale=1280:720" before the -vcodec part, or even smaller if that doesn't help
12:43 Exio4 a nice thing to do would be using a lightweight codec (nearly raw) and save the file in /tmp or somewhere where you have space, and then re-encode it with time to what you want
12:43 celeron55 even this machine can't encode fast-paced games at 30fps at full-HD in h.264
12:43 Exio4 "this machine" == ?
12:44 celeron55 umm... well assuming the CPU matters most, that is an i7-4800MQ
12:44 Megaf celeron55: also, I couldnt capture minetest in fullscreen, only in window mode, when going fullscreen it would still somewhat show the desktop
12:45 celeron55 in my window manager i can just press alt+f11 and the program fills the whole screen
12:45 Megaf Ah, that's how you do
12:46 celeron55 also, yes, nearly raw video at 1080p is probably doable on most new computers... it just takes enormous amounts of space and you can't really archive the footage you take with it at all
12:47 celeron55 unless you encode it afterwards which you can't bother doing after you've spent your time waiting for the actual video to render for too long already 8)
12:47 Megaf I'm using mkv
12:47 Megaf -sameq mkv
12:47 celeron55 mkv is a container that can store video in almost any codec
12:47 celeron55 that doesn't tell anything about what you encode it in
12:48 celeron55 it's like "i code in text files"
12:48 Exio4 i'm encoding at 31FPS but with -framerate @ 60
12:48 Megaf I wonder what encoding is ffmpeg using then
12:48 Exio4 looks like a hardcoded limit ...
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12:50 celeron55 Megaf: ffmpeg -i <previous output file> probably tells it
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12:53 reactor Evening!
12:56 Megaf ENCODER         : Lavf53.21.1
12:56 Megaf Morning reactor
12:57 reactor Lucky you eh. Because evenings suck.
12:57 Megaf is there any kind of gitgub website hosting besides that wiki thing?
13:02 Megaf 10:02:11: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Cancelling: No player for peer_id=1221
13:02 Megaf This is really bad
13:02 Megaf millions of lines like that scrolling on my server log
13:03 Megaf 7+ lines/second
13:03 reactor Heh.
13:03 reactor Same, here
13:03 reactor but a bit different the message is
13:03 reactor I like to peek at it once in a while, and that annoys.
13:04 reactor Debian users trying to lpay with a very old Minetest from packages?
13:04 Megaf I have no idea
13:05 Megaf I only know that really slo the server dpwm
13:05 reactor One might go anal and uptight and set "strict protocol version checking".
13:05 Megaf doesn*
13:05 reactor Really?
13:05 reactor Yeah, it shouldn't.
13:05 Megaf Im going to shut down my server
13:05 reactor Why so?
13:05 Megaf because I administrate my server over ssh
13:06 reactor Who doesn't.
13:06 Megaf and that 7+ lines/seconds really saturate my upstream
13:06 Megaf 45 players at once on 3 servers is ok for my upstream, but that logs can do a lot of damage to it
13:07 reactor What are you talking about?
13:07 reactor Can't you just stop sending the log wherever it's sent to?
13:07 reactor Or filter those messages out?
13:07 Megaf I'm just saying, my upstream can't handle that kind of load
13:08 crazyR does anyone know why my server isnt generating and lava lakes, i used standard mpgen v6 settings
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13:10 crazyR <Megaf> 10:02:11: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Cancelling: No player for peer_id=1221
13:10 crazyR ^ i had that when using older clients
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13:11 reactor Indeed.
13:11 reactor I was right.
13:11 Megaf crazyR: any solution for that?
13:12 crazyR tell all your players to upgrade. i think it was just a dodgy build. as it wasnt that old. also it was me at caused mine, i notieced when i did anything on the server the live logs showed it lol
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13:17 Megaf I just think server should tell clients "Your versions is too old, please upgrade"
13:17 Megaf or it just should be able to let them play without major issues
13:18 proller or tell sapier to revert his changes
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13:18 Megaf !ban proller
13:19 Megaf proller: my servers has more players than yours
13:19 Megaf and plays better too
13:19 proller and more lag?
13:19 proller without mods?
13:19 Megaf with only the mods I want
13:20 Megaf I hate Guests
13:20 proller my have 2 shitmobs mods and they generate most lag
13:20 proller also beat 68 players record
13:21 Megaf players or bots?
13:22 proller players
13:22 proller 150+ bots
13:22 proller and game playable with them
13:22 proller your have 3 second lag in moving item in inventory
13:23 proller and slow block load
13:23 Megaf mine? I have 3,
13:27 Megaf Ok, just enabled strict protocol on all servers, and disallowed empty passwords
13:27 Megaf that will cost 90% of players
13:27 Megaf quality over quantity
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13:31 Megaf Hi xyz
13:31 Krock Hello
13:31 Megaf Hi Krock
13:31 Krock lol hi xyz
13:32 * Krock greets Megaf
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13:35 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001
13:35 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (776ms)
13:35 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30002
13:35 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30002
13:35 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30002 is up (567ms)
13:35 Krock id won
13:36 Krock is down*
13:36 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
13:36 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (473ms)
13:36 Megaf ok, 3 server 0 players
13:36 Krock Yeah
13:36 Megaf Krock: I enabled the strict protocol thing
13:36 Krock 1 server 8 players
13:37 Krock Megaf, bad idea
13:37 Megaf I'm expecting 90%+ player drops
13:37 Krock only 0.4.9-dev can join this way
13:37 Megaf Krock: Those trashy tablets/phones version are slowing down my servers quite a lot
13:37 Krock Uhm I don't notice such a slow down
13:37 Megaf developers must do something ASAP
13:38 Krock Megaf, if you mean max_lag: I joined your RIP *cough* RPi server -> lag of 5.5s
13:39 Krock But that one lies
13:39 Megaf you joined my main server
13:39 Krock Omg what have I done?
13:39 * Krock runs away
13:39 Megaf not a RPi one
13:39 Megaf you joined the minetest_game one
13:40 Megaf and yes, it lags
13:40 proller minetest players must suffer
13:40 Krock get technic_game and enjoy
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13:40 Krock (on RPi!!)
13:40 Krock proller, yup. At least I can suffer. Minecraft doesn't let me.
13:41 Krock btw: installed airsword mod on my server :D
13:41 Krock Best mod evaarrr
13:42 Megaf Krock: really?
13:42 Krock yes
13:42 Megaf Is that just an invisible sword?
13:42 Krock Air is invisible <.<
13:42 Megaf so you don't see your hand
13:52 crazyR Megaf not just the sword is invisible, but the mod it too:d
13:53 Krock crazyR, wut? type in /mods
13:53 Krock after you enabledit
13:54 crazyR ahh but giveme the sword
13:54 crazyR lol
13:55 crazyR even the code is invisible so we cnt check the node name.
13:56 Krock node name? air SWORD? node name? srsz?
13:56 crazyR oh yeah im think me
13:56 crazyR *thick
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14:07 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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14:08 Krock hi pilzadam
14:09 Megaf Hi PilzAdam
14:10 CraigyDavi hi PilzAdam
14:13 [PavelS] hi PilzAdam
14:14 proller hi PilzAdam
14:14 MinetestBot hi PilzAdam
14:17 Krock ][-][ 3 |_ |_ ()    P ! |_ Z /-\ |) /-\ /\/\
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14:38 Megaf Krock: I'm testing new configuration settings on my servers, lag should be much lower now
14:38 Krock parteyyy
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15:09 Jordach I AM INSANE https://cdn.mediacru.sh/svcwtUvSFTMI.png
15:09 CraigyDavi Jordach, wow looks nice
15:09 Jordach i am able to export blender models INTO NODEBOXES :D
15:10 sfan5 Jordach: export the minetest player model into a nodebox :D
15:10 * Jordach requires two nodes
15:11 jin_xi you can make oversized nodeboxes
15:11 sfan5 ^
15:11 Jordach sfan5, pixel scaling :P
15:15 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/m3Q0D8Fstb1h.png
15:15 sfan5 Jordach:
15:15 sfan5 <CraigyDavi> Jordach, wow looks nice
15:15 sfan5 uh no+
15:15 sfan5 Jordach: https://survey.mediacru.sh/
15:18 Jordach dne
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15:31 zsoltisawesome_ To da Germans: http://www.cross-code.com/de/play
15:31 PilzAdam zsoltisawesome_, what is that?
15:32 zsoltisawesome_ HTML5 game
15:32 zsoltisawesome_ its pretty cool
15:32 sfan5 how old
15:32 sfan5 I already played that
15:32 zsoltisawesome_ lol
15:32 zsoltisawesome_ why the hell do i have an underscore
15:32 zsoltisawesome_ ahh
15:32 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome_: not today
15:32 zsoltisawesome_ PenguinDad: what?
15:32 PenguinDad underscore.js :P
15:33 zsoltisawesome_ PenguinDad: #whattheduck
15:33 PenguinDad I won't play that game today
15:33 zsoltisawesome_ ok
15:33 zsoltisawesome_ thats all!
15:33 zsoltisawesome_ bye!
15:34 Krock the sound in that gameis broken or my audio card is too slow..
15:34 crazyR anyone know what the technic:template etc are for?
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15:36 Krock and what's this crazy mod good for? https://github.com/SmallJoker/paint_roller
15:37 Calinou hi :)
15:37 Calinou pain troller, Krock
15:37 Krock exactly. hello Calinou
15:37 * PenguinDad is thinking about a painball mod/game
15:38 PenguinDad s/pain/paint/
15:40 reactor msPain.exe
15:40 PenguinDad Pain.NET
15:41 crazyR anyone?
15:41 reactor http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/s​pike-wrecking-ball-17994008.jpg
15:41 reactor ^pain ball
15:42 reactor crazyR: sorry, haven't seen anyone using Technic; might want to ask again later
15:42 Calinou I'm idling in a cave in noclip
15:42 Calinou a stone monster jumps on a wall, trying to get me
15:42 Calinou it's called wallhumping!
15:43 crazyR im just deciding what to hide in the inventry . trying to clean it up. ive never been able to work out what it does, same with frame motors etc
15:47 Jordach hmmmm, is there an register_on_generated for MGV7?
15:48 Krock Jordach, there always is <.<
15:49 Jordach Krock, paramat supplied me oil generation - and notice it's missing the oil and aforementioned hole in the stone
15:50 Krock Jordach, oil needs to be ground_node = false or whatever
15:50 Krock else it overrides
15:50 Jordach Krock, already is
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15:51 john_minetest hey
15:51 Krock Jordach, hmm weird, set that value to the opposite and geerate new land again
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15:51 Krock hay john mt
15:52 Jordach and NOW it decides to work
15:53 PenguinDad john_minetest: o/
15:53 Krock <3 <3 <3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuBEWhL-QTo <3
15:53 Jordach just tweaking it now :)
15:54 Calinou lol, stone monster spawns besides me and attacks me
15:54 Jordach and it's obvious when you do find it :)
15:55 Jordach tada https://cdn.mediacru.sh/e7p8-DBjtDht.png
15:55 Krock Jordach, make it glowy and turn noclip on, fly down = best way to find it
15:55 Jordach that big black orb
15:56 Krock can't see it's dark
15:57 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/UmQwmy1D-b9V.png
15:57 Jordach try again
15:57 SylvieLorxu Calinou: Stone monster?
15:58 Krock Ah now i see it
15:58 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/yFFieQNIC45H.png
15:58 Jordach that helps too :)
15:59 Jordach oil comes in large packets
16:00 john_minetest Heh, finally fixed bad timing in my jump and run.
16:02 Calinou SylvieLorxu, Simple Mobs
16:02 SylvieLorxu Ah...
16:02 SylvieLorxu Okay, thanks Calinou
16:02 Calinou added air springs :-D
16:03 Calinou after PilzAdam's Air Sword, here are air springs: caves generated using ore generation (replaces stone with air)
16:03 Calinou looks random, can be quite dangerous
16:03 Calinou but reveals ores
16:03 Jordach lol Calinou
16:04 Jordach actually making an air sword legit would be more interesting :)
16:06 Calinou enabling animation blending totally glitches out player model
16:06 Calinou (try 1 as animation_blend value)
16:07 john_minetest btw, i love the new F7 3rd person view.
16:10 PenguinDad my ping is 1.337 atm :D
16:11 john_minetest !ping
16:11 john_minetest ~ping
16:11 ShadowBot pong
16:11 PenguinDad ~pong
16:12 john_minetest Well, 1 second according to chat log
16:12 john_minetest Could be 1.337 due to rounding errors.
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16:14 * Jordach pokes VanessaE_
16:14 Hirato !ping
16:15 john_minetest riiiiight
16:15 Krock pong!
16:16 PenguinDad !rev !ping
16:16 MinetestBot gnip!
16:16 john_minetest !rev !rev
16:16 MinetestBot ver!
16:16 PenguinDad !rev server
16:16 MinetestBot revres
16:16 Hirato ~rev everything is smeg
16:16 ShadowBot Hirato: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:17 john_minetest
16:17 john_minetest !rev edniwhcs !rev
16:17 MinetestBot ver! schwinde
16:17 john_minetest lol
16:17 PenguinDad ~rev true
16:17 john_minetest !rev reittier
16:17 MinetestBot reittier
16:17 john_minetest !rev regallager
16:17 MinetestBot regallager
16:17 Hirato !rev ebiewhcs
16:17 MinetestBot schweibe
16:17 john_minetest Well, obviously minetestBot is broken.
16:18 Krock ~rev reittier
16:18 john_minetest It can't spell "regallager" and "reittier" backwards.
16:18 Krock yeah
16:18 PenguinDad !rev retter
16:18 MinetestBot retter
16:18 Krock ~ping
16:18 Hirato !rev racecar
16:18 MinetestBot racecar
16:18 ShadowBot pong
16:18 john_minetest omg. racecar. cool.
16:18 Krock loll
16:18 john_minetest ~rev rave-var
16:19 Hirato wouldn't it be funny if we had a word for palindrome that was a palindrome
16:19 sfan5 can we do this in another channel please?
16:19 john_minetest !rev palindrrdnilap
16:19 MinetestBot palindrrdnilap
16:19 john_minetest omg
16:19 john_minetest perfect word found
16:19 VanessaE_ Jordach: ow.
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16:19 Jordach VanessaE_, i'm pretty much working full time on BFD
16:20 rubenwardy Hi all!
16:20 john_minetest !rev palilap  :retteb eb thgim
16:20 MinetestBot might be better:  palilap
16:20 sfan5 <sfan5> can we do this in another channel please?
16:20 VanessaE_ Jordach:  https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=9196
16:20 Jordach pssh
16:21 john_minetest Where is the minetest skin db again?
16:21 Krock minetest.fensta.bplaced.net
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16:22 Krock sadly, there are too much similar skins
16:24 Krock o.o no one is wtfpl
16:24 john_minetest lol: http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#!page:1,filter:jmf,filtertype:Author,
16:25 PenguinDad Krock: I'm zlib/libpng :P
16:25 john_minetest VanessaE_: I can't find the skin I want atm. It is part of Zeg9's skin mod.
16:26 Krock PenguinDad, CC BY-SA 3.0
16:26 PenguinDad you said no-one and not nothing :p
16:27 Krock ok your verrie correckt
16:27 Krock me english verie good is
16:28 Hirato bliksemse buitlanders
16:28 Calinou hi VanessaE_
16:28 PenguinDad very english, much good, wow
16:31 john_minetest VanessaE_: Found the skin I want: https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-skins/bl​ob/master/skins/textures/character_5.png
16:31 john_minetest sehr englisch, viel gut, wow.
16:33 PenguinDad thx for the translation john_minetest :P
16:34 john_minetest "Doge" has to become "Hunds".
16:34 john_minetest The new Hunds meme.
16:35 VanessaE_ john_minetest: just "john", right?
16:35 * PenguinDad hugs sfan5
16:36 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
16:36 john_minetest VanessaE_ Right. Lowercase "john"
16:36 * PenguinDad pets sfan5
16:36 VanessaE_ saved
16:36 john_minetest thx
16:36 * sfan5 purrs
16:36 * john_minetest takes out a Fischwerfer. It werfs Fisch!
16:37 * john_minetest werfs Fisch at sfan5
16:37 * sfan5 eats the fishy
16:37 Krock <°(((((-<
16:38 Krock and now:
16:38 VanessaE_ we used to have this bot on one of the C64 channels years ago that, if anyone said some variation of the word "fish", it would respond with another variation
16:38 Krock <x++++-<
16:38 VanessaE_ to this day I still don't know why that was.
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16:42 Krock Let's play my favoruite game at school: Highlight a nickname, every player which plays must add the nickname again atthe end of the message. the 1st who gets kicked or banned, looses.
16:42 Krock *fevourite
16:42 Krock damn
16:43 Krock </brainless_idea>
16:43 Calinou you use IRC at school?
16:43 Krock no, I converted it into IRC node
16:43 Krock *mode
16:45 Krock Wo would like to start this dumb game?
16:46 markveidemanis https://www.facebook.com/photo.php​?v=536347666497969&amp;set=vb.3826​46855201385&amp;type=2&amp;theater
16:50 Krock not funny.
16:52 Krock can't sleep tonight. thanks.
16:55 john_minetest I can't see that thing on facebook
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17:03 Krock http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thu​mb/f/f2/Sechselaeuten.jpg/465px-Sechselaeuten.jpg
17:03 Krock A good summer will come towards us
17:08 rubenwardy blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah
17:08 rubenwardy blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah
17:08 rubenwardy blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah blah blah blahdy blah
17:08 rubenwardy ooops
17:08 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur​e=player_embedded&amp;v=t6kTBhsEYJY
17:08 rubenwardy ( sorry for the copy+paste error )
17:08 PenguinDad lol when I look at that image I have to think of the Ghostbusters
17:09 john_minetest rubenwardy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN62PAKoBfE
17:11 john_minetest And another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeF7jqf0GU4
17:12 john_minetest Btw, is there a fullscren setting for minetest in some menu?
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17:14 VanessaE_ zzz
17:15 sfan5 VanessaE_: yyy
17:16 Krock john_minetest, not yet
17:18 VanessaE_ y not? :)
17:22 Megaf Hi all
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17:23 Megaf 12:09:17         Jordach | I AM INSANE https://cdn.mediacru.sh/svcwtUvSFTMI.png
17:23 Megaf That's really impressive
17:25 Jordach Megaf, there hasn't been any large change in workflow
17:26 Jordach and i get like 10 years support (and that's if i don't upgrade)
17:26 Jordach compared to 2 years
17:26 Megaf Jordach: Why don't you use a good GNU/Linux distro? You use quite a lot of Open Source software already
17:26 Megaf install Debian Wheezy KDE and you will be fine
17:26 Jordach Megaf, i miss out on quite some decent game on Windows
17:26 Megaf I see, I know how you feel bro
17:27 Megaf I had to stop playing a lot of good games to migrate to GNU/Linux =/
17:27 Megaf some of them works very nice on VirtualBox
17:27 Krock Windows ftw
17:27 Megaf Microsoft rullez
17:27 * PenguinDad throws Archlinux at Krock
17:27 Megaf I'm just kidding about Microsoft rullez
17:28 * Krock throws 1.44 ms-dos floppy disk at PenguinDad
17:28 Jordach Megaf, i'd go Linux (fuck politics, it's GNU and GNU know it) ;)
17:28 * Megaf catches ArchLinux and install it on a desktop
17:28 Jordach except my UEFI is a bitch to work with
17:28 Jordach i actually spent a day fighting it just to install Windows 7
17:28 VanessaE_ UEFI is supposed to be pretty tame even with Linux now so I've read?
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17:29 Krock not daswort, it's diewort
17:29 Megaf Jordach: calling GNU/Linux Linux is the same as calling Windows kernel.exe or something like that
17:29 Jordach Megaf, i dislike the politics around it
17:30 Krock Megaf, linux is linux. windows is windows. let it stay that way
17:30 PenguinDad VanessaE_: but many UEFI implementations are made quick and dirty for Windows 8
17:30 VanessaE_ Megaf: "Linux" is shorter than "GNU/LInux", just as "Windows" is shorter than "Microsoft Windows".
17:30 Megaf yep, there should be a proper Linux Operating System
17:30 Krock M$ Windoof is way shorter and german-compatible
17:31 Megaf Krock: I aproove
17:31 Krock *approve=
17:32 Megaf however
17:32 Megaf :)
17:32 rubenwardy "Windoze"?
17:32 Megaf windowze for the win!
17:32 Megaf the best arcade game platform ever
17:33 Megaf since Nintendo SNES and SEGA Dreamcast
17:33 Megaf and old Ataris, they were awesome
17:34 * Jordach considers adding in a customized version of BlockMen's jukebox using a nodebox model
17:34 Megaf lua based mp3 player
17:35 Jordach ogg*
17:35 Megaf lua based ogg player
17:35 Jordach however, it's special, it contains some of my most legendary tracks (mtest.ogg, easternfeeling.ogg, R-S-E-Credits.ogg)
17:36 Krock Future of Windows: http://www.reactos.org/de
17:36 Krock str.remove("/de");
17:36 Calinou <VanessaE_> UEFI is supposed to be pretty tame even with Linux now so I've read?
17:37 Calinou indeed – it also doesn't matter if you don't multi-boot
17:37 Calinou Megaf, except that Linux's only a kernel.
17:38 Calinou (nevermind)
17:38 Jordach Megaf, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wR6lrUNzAemb.png
17:40 Jordach Sokomine, i might be a minimalist when it comes to ingame stuff
17:40 Jordach i save the details for Blender :)
17:41 Jordach (fun fact: Blender Units CONVERT EQUALLY INTO NODEBOX UNITS)
17:42 Jordach i'm also considering writing a script to take two opposing sides of a box and convert them into lua tables for automated exportation
17:43 rubenwardy Sounds awesome
17:43 Jordach i prefer Blender to your shitt NBE, as pixel snapping IS NOT perfect
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17:43 Megaf Blender is the software of it's kind
17:44 Jordach in fact i could probably write a minetest mod within blender as it has all the tools i need
17:44 Megaf and perhaps the only of it's kind
17:44 Jordach text editor, texture editor, file browser
17:44 rubenwardy That is harse and unneeded, Jordach]
17:44 Jordach it's the EMACS of 3D Modelers / Renders
17:44 Jordach does everything BUT do 3D modeling :)
17:45 Megaf And it's free
17:45 Megaf and open
17:45 Megaf free as in freedom
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17:46 Megaf hm,
17:46 Megaf Krock: by the way, increasing those settings in minetest.conf fixed the map not loading issue on my server
17:46 rubenwardy I have just lost all respect I had for Jordach
17:46 Krock Megaf, well done.
17:46 Megaf rubenwardy: why?
17:47 Jordach rubenwardy, i'm REALLY specific about how software works
17:47 Megaf Krock: now it can handle a lot of players with no issues at all, however, I limited to 11
17:47 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001
17:47 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (248ms)
17:48 Jordach rubenwardy, NBE irks me as not everything is optimal
17:48 Megaf 99 of lag according to servers.minetest.net
17:48 Jordach nobody around here seems to give a shit about a USABLE UI
17:48 * Megaf have no idea what they are talking about, that NBE thing
17:48 rubenwardy I find it usable. What do you require for it to be usable?
17:48 john_minetest I don't want to pay 70$ for a t-shirt
17:49 rubenwardy Megaf, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840
17:49 Krock Jordach, the NBE UI is fine o.o
17:49 Megaf ah, node block editor
17:49 rubenwardy I guess it is lacking in clone / duplicate and mirroring
17:49 rubenwardy The the top right VP is messed up (viewport)
17:50 Jordach rubenwardy, and proper pixel snapping that needs to actually work most of the time
17:50 Megaf Jordach: ok, so you can export things directly from blender to minetest?
17:51 Jordach Megaf, yarp
17:51 Megaf now, that's brilliant!
17:51 Megaf Jordach: how is that possible?
17:51 Jordach i currently export vert placement manually, and then i can easily create a bounding box
17:51 * markveidemanis is making a script to see how many words you can type on a calculator
17:51 Jordach btw, blender x = mt x, blender y = mt z, blender z = mt y
17:52 Krock blender FAIL
17:52 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9120451
17:52 Megaf rubenwardy: I'm using your NBE here for the first time now, I find it pretty good, pretty nice interface too
17:53 Jordach rubenwardy, where's the keyboard shortcuts too ;)
17:53 rubenwardy That is true
17:53 rubenwardy Can't believe I forgot that!
17:53 Jordach might explain why i perfer blender
17:53 Calinou new fireball sounds + explode sound in Carbone (dungeon master), tweaked animation speeds
17:53 Calinou put node destruction back (they spawn in deep underground anyway)
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17:55 Jordach Calinou, DMs spawn under 4KM
17:55 Calinou -64 here
17:55 rubenwardy I just redid the snapping to allow variable grid sizes, and made it actually work
17:55 Calinou I'll make them die in sunlight just in case
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17:57 Megaf ok, now I can create new objects, but I have no idea how to add them to my server
17:57 Megaf Ah
17:57 rubenwardy Jordach, the snapping has been fixed. The old one had some wierd snap zone thing that was unnessacary, which has been removed
17:57 Megaf Just figured out :)
17:58 Megaf rubenwardy: I miss a clone tool and rotate thing
17:58 Megaf also, some way to move the camera on perspective view
17:58 markveidemanis Okay I need some help
17:58 rubenwardy WASD
17:58 rubenwardy ^ Megaf
17:59 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9120451 Just does nothign
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18:01 Jordach rubenwardy, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cm10BaegWLJQ.png
18:01 Jordach fits within a single node and is easily texturable
18:01 sfan5 that's one high sink
18:01 rubenwardy record player?
18:01 Jordach yarp
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18:02 Jordach it'd take me a while to import it, but definitely possible
18:04 Megaf Jordach: there are some games for Linux already http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/
18:06 Megaf ok, none of them are good =/
18:06 sfan5 Megaf: EDGE is good
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18:11 rubenwardy Added suggestions to https://github.com/rubenwardy/N​odeBoxEditor/issues?state=open
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18:13 Jordach Megaf, not enough decent games
18:13 Jordach nor Winamp, the best music player ever
18:13 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/v0Wjg84hNlfR.png
18:13 Calinou nyan
18:13 sfan5 Jordach: lolwut, amarok
18:13 sfan5 is way better
18:13 rubenwardy Commit Add dynamic snapping - https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/co​mmit/a907c745683364ce5e0070b3b3cb6a6174c604fa
18:13 rubenwardy Fixes the snapping problem
18:14 sfan5 Calinou: it's written like this: にやん
18:15 Calinou Carbone now has more nyan cats (not as much as on the screenshot, thankfully)
18:17 Jordach mew ;3
18:17 Krock Calinou, :)                (  :(  )
18:18 Jordach interesting fact: cook time is pointless (i prefer the MC method of all have the same time, the fuel is what matters)
18:18 sfan5 no u
18:18 Jordach and is the replacements availible in furnaces yet?
18:18 Krock Jordach, put lava buket in and check it
18:18 Krock result = true
18:19 Calinou I like different cook times, it's an unique feature
18:19 Calinou here, meat is a nice food, but takes 25 seconds to cook
18:19 Calinou (IRL, it takes a lot of time too)
18:19 Calinou I had 3 instances of Minetest running... x_x
18:19 Calinou all in main menu
18:20 * Calinou beat his longest streak on GitHub: 6 days
18:24 Jordach ouch
18:24 Jordach BFD already weighs in at 15.5mb
18:26 VanessaE_ Calinou: christ in a cartoon, that's a lot of nyan cats
18:27 Calinou ~9.5MB for carbone after being cloned
18:27 Calinou minetest_next is ~6MB
18:28 Calinou VanessaE_, I changed 16*16*16 to 4*4*4
18:28 Calinou now it's at 14*14*14 (in “volume” variable)
18:28 Calinou mapgen.lua
18:28 Calinou (and I made them spawnable at any height)
18:28 Calinou (like it was in 0.3.1 :P)
18:30 Krock Calinou, how about adding all facedirs and generate up and down flying cats? :3
18:30 Calinou meh
18:30 Calinou the nyan cat video/gif is horizonta
18:30 Calinou horizontal*
18:31 Krock break out of the limitations
18:31 VanessaE_ I should change my game to use HDX 64px for its default textures :)
18:31 VanessaE_ naw, maybe not :P
18:32 * Jordach will fucking kill you
18:32 Jordach literally.
18:32 VanessaE_ lol
18:32 Jordach /nick VanessaE
18:32 VanessaE_ why, afraid BFD can't compete with that? ;)
18:32 Jordach that's pissing me off too ;)
18:33 Jordach VanessaE_, got oil generating like a mofo :D
18:34 VanessaE_ cool
18:34 Jordach it also has a burn time of 360
18:35 Calinou Jordach literally works at Bethesda
18:35 Calinou probably worked on The Elder Trolls Online
18:35 Jordach HAH
18:35 Calinou (I finally made that pun)
18:37 VanessaE_ Dreambuilder has a metric fuckload of content but I need help documenting all of it :P
18:38 Jordach VanessaE_, that's why BFD reinvents everything
18:39 Calinou wiki has 456K visits since its creation
18:40 Calinou 163 visits per edit
18:40 Calinou User talk:BlockMen89 424
18:40 Calinou they are popular, their page is viewed more often than the main page
18:40 Calinou :trollface:
18:43 sfan5 !sfu this no longere works, does it?
18:43 MinetestBot sfan5: No Results found
18:44 sfan5 mh
18:44 markveidemanis !sfu cats
18:44 MinetestBot markveidemanis: No Results found
18:44 markveidemanis !sfu minetest
18:44 MinetestBot markveidemanis: No Results found
18:53 rubenwardy NodeBoxEditor commit: Add some keyboard shortcuts ( http://tinyurl.com/n54rfdb
18:53 rubenwardy )
18:53 rubenwardy Now for a clone button
18:53 Megaf Jordach: XMMS2
18:54 Megaf and theres another one, I dont remember now
18:54 Megaf and theres winamp for linux too...
18:54 Megaf well, bye
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19:03 rubenwardy Bye all!
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19:07 PenguinDad !sfu *kitteh*
19:07 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No Results found
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19:21 crazyR how could i make a lua function that searches the logs for anything with a players name in it
19:21 crazyR function search_log(playername) -bla bla bla end  <--
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19:22 crazyR maybe put each line found into a array/table
19:34 Jordach kaeza, 2 days
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20:01 Jordach FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU https://cdn.mediacru.sh/7S60gO9dUdHU.png
20:03 * sfan5 purrs at Jordach
20:03 * Jordach is looking for oil now that it generates
20:03 Jordach never found it through normal gameplay...
20:03 sfan5 おやすみ~
20:04 * Jordach is also going to start making more biomes to explore
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20:21 john_minetest Oil without weapon mod? How lame is that?
20:21 john_minetest So unrealistic ;P
20:32 BlockMen john_minetest, in MT worlds there is no US government ;P
20:32 markveidemanis Anyone else see that?
20:32 john_minetest BlockMen: Oh, lol, totally forgot.
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20:43 ShadowNinja ~aka add rev reverse
20:43 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
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21:01 S0ckb4t Hi! Quick question please: How can I run a modpack from a run-in-place installation? I have other (single) mods in minetest/mods which run nicely, but the modpack is ignored. which modname do I need for a modpack in world.mt in the world directory?
21:02 S0ckb4t I'm trying to run Minetest-WorldEdit-1.0
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21:04 VanessaE_ drop the modpack in <minetest dir>/mods and enable it in your world config.
21:04 VanessaE_ (via the menu)
21:05 S0ckb4t Hi VanessaE. hm ok, not sure what that menu is
21:05 VanessaE_ the main menu
21:06 VanessaE_ when you click on a world and hit the "Configure" button
21:06 S0ckb4t in my client?? i'm trying to get my server to run the mod
21:06 VanessaE_ click on the modpack in the list and click "Enable MP" at the top of the list
21:06 VanessaE_ oh derp
21:06 VanessaE_ you didn't say it was for a server
21:06 S0ckb4t Haha, sorry...
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21:08 ShadowNinja S0ckb4t: Every mod in the pack has to be enabled individually.
21:08 VanessaE_ not sure off the top of my head
21:09 VanessaE_ oh, that answers that.
21:09 ShadowNinja S0ckb4t: And the modpack name can't conflict with a mod name (bug).
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21:10 S0ckb4t Thanks Shadow I tried adding the names (subfolders) from the modpack as   load_mod_<modname> = true
21:10 S0ckb4t in world.mt in the world directory. then when I looked later those new entries were set to false
21:15 S0ckb4t Oh! I got it
21:16 S0ckb4t So, I need to copy mods or modpacks to minetest/mods. Then the modnames are added automatically to world.mt but set to false. Then I change the setting to true and it works.
21:16 S0ckb4t Thanks anyway, ShadowNinja and VanessaE, your replies helped.
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21:42 VanessaE_ I really wish that could be changed
21:42 VanessaE_ if a mod is added to mods or worldmods, it should be enabled by default imho
21:42 VanessaE_ (if its entry isn't already present in world.mt)
21:44 S0ckb4t As with most things, once you know how it works it's fine :)
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21:51 LazyJ A bit late in the conversation:
21:51 LazyJ <VanessaE_> if a mod is added to mods or worldmods, it should be enabled by default imho
21:52 LazyJ I'm of the opposite opinion.
21:52 LazyJ If a mod is placed in "worldmods", then it should be active.
21:53 LazyJ If a mod is placed in "mods" then it should require activation through world.mt or a menu.
21:53 LazyJ I've found that "worldmods" override "mods" and have used that.
21:54 LazyJ Also, by parking mods in the "mods" directory I've used that for testing.
21:54 LazyJ Instead of having to copy/paste mods to activate them, I just edit the world.mt file.
21:55 LazyJ Activate a mod in "mods" and see how it affects or works with another mod in "worldmods".
21:56 LazyJ Some mods may be better purposed when only used when needed (mapgen mods like paramat's "LandUp" mod) so being able to toggle them on and off is useful.
21:56 LazyJ Ok, done typing. ;)
22:02 S0ckb4t Good point LazyJ
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22:16 VanessaE_ ok maybe for worldmods, active by default for sure
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22:52 MegAFK Hi LazyJ
22:53 LazyJ Owdy, Megaf ;)
22:53 LazyJ Thanks for the Mesecon Light.
22:53 LazyJ *Lights
22:54 LazyJ The reason I used superglowglass is because it's output is what wheat and cotton code requires to grow.
22:55 LazyJ I see I have some new neighbors since I've been away.
22:55 LazyJ How is the RPi creative performing?
22:56 lordcirth LazyJ, so torches can't grow those anymore?
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23:02 LazyJ lordcirth, I haven't had any success with torches in underground wheat and cotton farms.
23:02 LazyJ I tested by using WorldEdit to hollow out a large area deep underground in a test world.
23:03 lordcirth LazyJ, I haven't even been able to grow grass or trees with torches anymore
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23:03 LazyJ Lined the walls with obsidian, the floor dirt, the ceiling was intentionally too high to be used as a light area so it was obsidian too.
23:04 LazyJ Then I planted trees, jungletrees, wheat, and cotton.
23:04 LazyJ Next to each I made cobble columns to mount the light source on.
23:04 LazyJ Trees and jungletrees will grow with torches.
23:05 FreeFull One thing you can do is use the fractal world generator, and then give yourself just the necessary materials to build a nice place
23:05 LazyJ Dirt will change to dirt_with_grass with torches within 1 block.
23:05 FreeFull So dirt and a sapling
23:05 lordcirth FreeFull, fractal? what kind of fractal does it make?
23:05 FreeFull Mandelbox
23:05 LazyJ Wheat and cotton wouldn't grow with a torch sitting right next to them.
23:06 FreeFull I cheated with worldedit to turn a bit on the corner into dirt
23:06 lordcirth well, I put 7 dirt blocks in a line, surrounded with torches, and in an hour or so, none grew
23:06 LazyJ However, when I set a MoreBlocks superglowglass or HomeDecor glowlight, or Blockmen's glowstone next to the seeds they grew into mature plants.
23:07 lordcirth Then I used /giveme to get 1 dirt_with_grass, and planted a sapling, and that didn't grow either
23:07 LazyJ Then I went back and compared the code of those light sources.
23:08 LazyJ That's when I learned how I learned what "light_source = x," does.
23:08 LazyJ *That's how I learned...
23:11 lordcirth LazyJ, so, they specifically coded it, not for light level, but for the block emitting it?
23:12 lordcirth LazyJ, I guess they figured growing plants with torches shouldn't work.
23:12 LazyJ Hehehe... well, plants typically grow outside in the sun (light_max).
23:13 LazyJ Only us crazy players think of growing things underground. ;)
23:13 LazyJ Not only for underground city purposes but most often as a survival-mode tactic.
23:14 LazyJ But it has been a while since I have tested the light/plants.
23:14 LazyJ Things may have changed since.
23:15 LazyJ On Megaf's server I'm trying to setup a base of operations for renewable supplies.
23:16 LazyJ I don't have much in the way of space above ground so I'm trying to maximize the space I do have.
23:16 FreeFull I once grew a tree underwater
23:16 LazyJ Protected space that is. The MT world is massive, of course.
23:17 LazyJ Time to stretch my legs. afk
23:29 john_minetest Listening to music with with 0.75x speed.
23:29 john_minetest The only way to allow my sleepy brain to process the song properly ;P
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