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00:16 EvergreenTree How would I create a table in luas which associates several strings with a single string?
00:17 EvergreenTree Essentially, I randomly choose a string from "lava
00:17 EvergreenTree + "
00:18 EvergreenTree something like this:
00:18 EvergreenTree table.lava = {"hot", "glowing"}
00:19 Sokomine and what's the problem?
00:19 EvergreenTree The problem is that I want to choose randomly one of the strings associated with "lava"
00:19 Sokomine local msg = table.lava[ math.random(1,#table.lava) ]
00:19 EvergreenTree okay, hold on
00:23 EvergreenTree This code gives an error(not used to lua):
00:24 EvergreenTree http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7117150/
00:26 Sokomine did you call the table table? in that case it might be due to table beeing a protected word
00:27 Sokomine as i said: don't name your table "table". give it a name
00:27 EvergreenTree changing
00:28 EvergreenTree http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71171
00:28 EvergreenTree just gives me "glowing"
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00:29 Sokomine sounds reasonable. math.random is most likely not initialized. withhin a mod, that's no problem. if you call it seperately, it may really always give the same result
00:29 EvergreenTree hm
00:30 EvergreenTree How would I initialize it?
00:31 Sokomine math.randomseed
00:31 Sokomine but withhin mods, you usually don't have to do so
00:31 EvergreenTree Okay
00:32 Sokomine unless you want a specific pattern
01:07 EvergreenTree https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=133660#p133660
01:07 EvergreenTree Added the table of quips for my death_messages mod
01:07 EvergreenTree I will probably make it optional tomorrow
01:08 EvergreenTree don't have time atm
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01:09 EvergreenTree ^ Sokomine that's what I needed the tables for btw
01:09 EvergreenTree if you couldn't guess already
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01:14 Sinkialex hey I added this line to my minetest.conf "mg_flags = v6_jungles, dungeons" do this only work on new world or do it work on world I have made already made?
01:15 Sinkialex I have already made? ^
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02:37 harrison life, death (he holds up his hands, palms toward his chest, splayed fingers, shaking as if to dry them) -- these are the dyes with which i work
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04:18 kaeza greetings
04:24 hoodedice hello
04:24 hoodedice byw
04:24 hoodedice *bye
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07:01 MinetestBot GIT: 4Evergreen4 commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add animated front texture for active furnace a5dcf123e0 2014-02-17T18:21:08-05:00 http://git.io/Yq7GZg
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07:43 john_minetest Hey!
07:43 PenguinDad G'Day john_minetest
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08:08 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Improve and clean up luacontroller digiline_send on globalstep feature dac05e4a6c 2014-03-19T09:09:39+01:00 http://git.io/DYaWuA
08:11 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Improve and clean up luacontroller digiline_send on globalstep feature 39a0e56c18 2014-03-19T09:11:07+01:00 http://git.io/acs65w
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09:20 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Remove timer() from LuaController and make interrupt() use the ActionQueue so that it will keep working when restarting the server df6829e553 2014-03-19T10:20:43+01:00 http://git.io/u7VX-w
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10:01 OldCoder Hi
10:01 OldCoder john_minetest, are you awake?
10:01 OldCoder kaeza, Sokomine?
10:02 kaeza what's up?
10:17 john_minetest OldCoder: yes
10:25 OldCoder john_minetest, are you at HN?
10:25 OldCoder kaeza, are you at HN?
10:25 john_minetest HN?
10:25 OldCoder Hacker News
10:25 kaeza nope
10:25 john_minetest no
10:25 john_minetest I don't even know what "Hacker News" is :P
10:25 OldCoder kk
10:26 * OldCoder is #1 there temporarily
10:26 john_minetest link?
10:26 OldCoder https://news.ycombinator.com/
10:29 john_minetest Health care... US problems...
10:30 john_minetest I am glad that I live in a country with a universal health care system.
10:30 OldCoder Indeed
10:31 john_minetest And social security.
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12:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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12:27 john_minetest hey PilzAdam
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12:33 Krock Hello ppl
12:34 john_minetest hi Krock
12:34 Krock Any breaking news?
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12:44 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
12:44 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (728ms)
12:45 Krock !charge myStuff.PC.CMOSbattery
12:50 john_minetest !up blackha.wk
12:50 MinetestBot blackha.wk:30000 seems to be down
12:50 john_minetest Black hawk down
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13:49 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix #83 (experimental) 3d2cfeace8 2014-03-19T14:47:22+01:00 http://git.io/Q-ReIQ
13:50 * NekoGloop nom
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14:02 Krock !rainbow nomnomnomnomnomnomnom
14:02 MinetestBot 4n4o4m7n7o7m8n8o8m3n3o3mnom6n6o6mnom
14:14 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix #146 37405e5a06 2014-03-19T15:13:23+01:00 http://git.io/w-kXEA
14:16 john_minetest Blender seems to be the only free video editor for windows...
14:17 Exio4 switch to debian
14:18 john_minetest I am using archlinux
14:18 john_minetest Debian is too outdated for me.
14:19 john_minetest I am on my windows laptop atm which is a fallback system in case something doesn't run on wine or I have to test somehting in its native enviroment.
14:20 Megaf you could use VirtualBox
14:20 grepwood does debian still use gcc 4.5?
14:20 Megaf gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-5)
14:20 Megaf nope
14:20 grepwood woah
14:21 Exio4 gcc version 4.8.2 (Debian 4.8.2-16)
14:21 Megaf and one can always use Debian SID, it is as updated as Arch, almost, and just as unstable as
14:21 Exio4 it is using 4.8.2 here
14:21 Exio4 your system is outdated Megaf
14:21 Megaf That means, your system may crash if you update it
14:21 grepwood gcc version 4.8.2 (Gentoo 4.8.2 p1.3r1, pie-0.5.8r1)
14:21 Megaf Exio4: I'm on Debian Wheezy (7)
14:21 Exio4 ah
14:21 john_minetest 4.8.2 on arch. And make 4.0 on arch.
14:21 Megaf it use software that it knows to work without bugs
14:21 john_minetest Nobody has make 4.0.
14:22 grepwood what benefits are there to having make 4.0?
14:22 Megaf $ make -v
14:22 Megaf GNU Make 3.81
14:22 john_minetest It was split.
14:22 grepwood split?
14:22 john_minetest make was split into the scripting engine stuff somehow and another part.
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14:23 john_minetest So it isn't that standalone anymore but the code is reusable.
14:29 harrison ,09memehopper
14:34 john_minetest 09mememememememememememememememememememe​memememememememememememememememememememe​mememememememememememememememememememe
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14:48 Krock ,04lol colored text is kinda funny
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14:54 harrison i get that a lot actually
15:01 grepwood is it okay to post asciis here?
15:02 * sfan5 flips john_minetest
15:02 sfan5 grepwood: ShadowBot will probably kick your for spam
15:02 sfan5 meow
15:02 sfan5 hi everyone
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15:06 Megaf Hi sfan5
15:06 sfan5 hi
15:13 PenguinDad howdy sfan5
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15:21 * harrison contracts into an oblate microspheroid
15:23 * john_minetest uses his cephalopod powers to solve the three-body-problem
15:26 * harrison has solved the three-body-problem years ago when it was still cool
15:27 john_minetest That's why you are DOCTOR harrison.
15:27 john_minetest :P
15:27 harrison i am not a real doctor
15:28 harrison i am a free ai
15:28 john_minetest a free ai doctor.
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15:31 * sfan5 gives harrison a kitten
15:32 * harrison places kitten in schrodinger box
15:35 john_minetest Nooooooooooo!
15:37 * PenguinDad rescues the kitten with his doge powers
15:39 harrison http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/03​/18/california-man-gets-probation-for-​biting-parents-in-argument-over-cat/
15:40 john_minetest My favourite schroedinger's cat comic: http://nbmpub.com/blog/wp-content​/uploads/2014/02/schroedinger.gif
15:43 PenguinDad plol
15:54 Megaf Folks on Linux, I got a new coll commnad for ya
15:55 Megaf as root, type on terminal echo -n mem > /sys/power/state and hit enter
15:55 Megaf cya
15:57 Exio4 we don't want to suspend to ram if you want to make us do that
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16:21 reactor hёllф
16:22 PenguinDad reactor, try http://eeemo.net for really crazy text
16:23 reactor Seen that.
16:23 Jordach has it been five fucking years since 2009?
16:23 reactor I'm yet to comprehend how it's done in UTF-8.
16:24 Jordach fuck me, time has gone missing :P
16:24 reactor Jordach: no, just usual years.
16:27 harrison john_minetest that is indeed a very good cartoon of the shrodingerkat
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16:33 markveidemanis Hi
16:33 markveidemanis I am trying to compile on a CentOS 6.5 VM
16:34 markveidemanis I am running with . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_CURL=0 -DBUILD_CLIENT=0
16:37 PenguinDad What is your question/problem?
16:37 sfan5 markveidemanis: what's your problem?
16:38 markveidemanis One sec
16:38 markveidemanis I don't know how to share cliboard or have shared folders
16:43 sfan5 this is #minetest not #everyproblemyoumighthave
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17:03 markveidemanis Do I just need cmake to build minetest?
17:04 Calinou markveidemanis, no, you need more
17:05 Calinou Irrlicht, libpng, zlib, libvorbis, libogg, liblua, libluajit, libfreetype, libgettext, build-essential (= compiler such as GCC or Clang)...
17:05 Calinou and many more ;)
17:06 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8951091
17:07 markveidemanis No package irrlicht available
17:07 markveidemanis And I don't need it for bare server
17:19 PenguinDad markveidemanis, you need the irrlicht headers for the server
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17:19 markveidemanis Irrlicht headers?
17:19 markveidemanis How do I get them?
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17:45 Calinou you don't have Irrlicht development headers installed; markveidemanis, install libirrlicht-dev
17:45 Calinou installing -dev always installs normal package ;) saves time
17:46 markveidemanis no package install libirrlicht-dev
17:46 markveidemanis -install
17:46 sfan5 lolwat http://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/com​ments/20tczt/my_name_is_not_dad_its_gnudad/
17:46 markveidemanis This is fedora Im trying to do this on
17:47 PenguinDad on Red Hat derivates it is -devel not -dev
17:48 markveidemanis still no
17:48 markveidemanis libirrlicht-devel
17:48 sfan5 markveidemanis: WHAT THE FUCK
17:48 sfan5 >Help building Minetest on CentOS 6.5
17:49 sfan5 >not posting in Bugs and Problems section
17:49 sfan5 srsly!
17:54 Calinou markveidemanis, search around for the package
17:54 Calinou "yum search irrlicht" ?
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17:56 john_minetest sfan5: xD "BSD should learn how to smoke" - "Yeah, the filter goes in."
17:58 markveidemanis No Matches found
17:59 john_minetest Lol, what a crappy distro is that?
17:59 Calinou Fedora is a fine distro
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18:03 Jordach we need shaders like this http://i.imgur.com/Rtm2ue7.png
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18:05 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4pRVCDuIZA
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18:15 markveidemanis Now the problem is with cmake
18:16 markveidemanis /usr/bin/cmake is unable to compile a simple test program
18:17 PenguinDad markveidemanis, cmake isn't a compiler
18:18 markveidemanis Hmm?
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18:19 OdinAllfather Hello guys
18:20 OdinAllfather I'm new to Lubuntu and don't know how to install and play it
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18:42 markveidemanis PenguinDad, what is then?
18:43 PenguinDad it is a makefile generator
18:48 markveidemanis does it overwrite the files if executed again?
18:48 markveidemanis I mean what is a compiler then
18:48 Jordach JFGI
18:51 markveidemanis GCC?
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19:08 john_minetest markveidemanis: LDVH
19:08 john_minetest :P
19:12 OldCoder Hi
19:12 OldCoder Is anybody online now at HN?
19:13 sfan5 john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/2yTRMgx.jpg
19:13 sfan5 HN?
19:14 john_minetest hacker news at https://news.ycombinator.com/
19:14 john_minetest sfan5 ^
19:14 sfan5 ah
19:14 OldCoder I am on page 2
19:14 OldCoder Please upvote
19:14 OldCoder I just need 2 more
19:14 OldCoder to hit 300
19:14 OldCoder To reach page 2 press More button at bottom
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19:16 john_minetest I should get a rubber duck for code debugging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
19:19 reactor dubber ruck
19:19 reactor OldCoder: щ/
19:19 reactor How's the science?
19:19 OldCoder reactor, weird
19:19 OldCoder Weird Science
19:19 OldCoder reactor, are you on HN?
19:19 reactor HN?
19:20 OldCoder Hacker News. Never mind.
19:21 markveidemanis OldCoder: Where is the C++ compiler executable?
19:21 OldCoder markveidemanis, not today :-)
19:21 markveidemanis :(
19:21 OldCoder Do not :(
19:21 markveidemanis :-)
19:21 OldCoder Things have taken a turn for the better
19:21 OldCoder Good
19:21 OldCoder Patience is requested
19:21 OldCoder Can't post much now; must prepare to go to the doctor
19:22 reactor Take Your Stethoscope and Walk
19:22 markveidemanis It appears I have to actually install it :P
19:23 * markveidemanis is | | << this close to having a minetest server on a 24 core machine
19:23 reactor "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk", rather
19:23 reactor markveidemanis + Windows is a waste of a good machine
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19:27 markveidemanis ...
19:27 markveidemanis It has CentOS
19:27 markveidemanis AND IT WORKED
19:27 * markveidemanis jumps for joy
19:28 reactor CentФS :(
19:28 john_minetest centos is a linux distribution. So it should work.
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19:28 reactor Dude, you're wasting your machines. Seriously.
19:28 reactor Linux is a ridicule of UNIX.
19:29 markveidemanis well shit
19:29 markveidemanis Error
19:29 markveidemanis Wait, should I do make -j2 ?
19:30 Calinou yes, it'll go faster
19:30 Calinou reactor, and no one cares about that.
19:30 reactor the more processors you want to dedicate for the build, the more -j
19:31 markveidemanis Oh thats what it meant
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19:31 markveidemanis But there's an error
19:31 reactor Calinou: wall, pff.
19:31 reactor s/a/e/
19:31 markveidemanis bla is not a name type
19:31 reactor Do I really care about people caring?
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19:33 Calinou the more cores*
19:33 Calinou most people have 1 physical CPU.
19:34 Krock hello
19:34 Exio4 wait
19:34 Exio4 24 cores?
19:34 Exio4 threads or cores
19:35 markveidemanis http://pastebin.com/9PnmHVaa
19:35 markveidemanis 24 cores
19:35 markveidemanis @2Ghz each
19:36 Calinou please use something else than pastebin.com, like zerobin.net or paste.ubuntu.com
19:37 Krock = 48 GHz ugh about 16 times faster as my PC
19:37 Krock Why is pastebin not good anymore?
19:37 reactor ...why don't sites such as wastebin provide direct links?
19:38 reactor Or they do, but people prefer to force each other to load yet another program just to view some garbage?
19:38 Krock as long you can see the contents of the paste, it should be okay :3
19:38 Jordach Krock is one of us. Krock is one of us.
19:38 Jordach :3
19:38 Calinou <Krock> = 48 GHz ugh about 16 times faster as my PC
19:38 Calinou it's NOT 16 times faster
19:38 Krock "us"? hashtag minetest community
19:39 Calinou you should not count like that
19:39 Calinou use benchmarks to compare
19:39 Calinou <Krock> Why is pastebin not good anymore?
19:39 Calinou ads, spam, long loading times
19:39 Calinou <Krock> as long you can see the contents of the paste, it should be okay :3
19:39 Calinou no
19:39 Calinou that's like saying "as long as I can play Minetest, it doesn't matter if I stole a car"
19:40 markveidemanis ...
19:40 Krock huh? "as long I can see the source of Minetest, it should be okay"
19:40 markveidemanis Any help?
19:41 Krock markveidemanis, seems like it started compiling at nodedef instead on the mail file
19:41 Krock *main
19:42 markveidemanis SO what should I do?
19:42 reactor Krock: you've just agreed to have to enter captcha and use javascript to download every source package. Lol.
19:42 markveidemanis Just for Calinou: http://0bin.net/paste/-TfhI-olJ82S3rUa#JS2​raxoX1aOfKF6SyQ7i/j5ZnC96L9Zx607tJ820c+4=
19:42 * Krock doesn't know. He's a Win32 user
19:44 Krock "..test-master/src/util/../irrlichttypes.h:23:22: error: irrTypes.h" seems like you missed some files there
19:47 Calinou 0bin is not the same as zerobin :P
19:47 reactor Oh. I see. *smirk*
19:47 Calinou still works :P
19:48 markveidemanis missing files?
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20:06 Krock Short question: Is/was there already a fix for picking up one item twice?
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20:08 sfan5 <Krock> markveidemanis, seems like it started compiling at nodedef instead on the mail file
20:08 sfan5 just FYI
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20:08 sfan5 I can compile the source files in any order I want
20:08 sfan5 I just need all of them compiled to make the binary
20:09 Krock So it doesn't matter in which order? Sorry, I didn't know. Doesn't happen again.
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20:11 sfan5 Krock: no; no need to say doesn't happen again
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20:12 sfan5 I'm not a strict teacher that'll do something if you get it wrong
20:12 Krock sfan5, well for me it looked like you take everything very serious. Maybe a wrong first-meaning.
20:13 Krock or however to say that
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20:29 markveidemanis Error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7121895/
20:30 markveidemanis But I have made progress
20:33 sfan5 markveidemanis: try s/u64/uint64_t/ and the same for [su](8|16|32|64)
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20:42 markveidemanis Replacing that in the files?
20:44 markveidemanis sed -i 's/u64/uint64_t/g' *.h ?
20:44 markveidemanis or cpp as well
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20:45 sfan5 all of them
20:45 markveidemanis ok
20:45 markveidemanis Is there a simple way of doing this?
20:45 markveidemanis If i'm right the command won't work in folders
20:48 sfan5 `find . -type f -name '*.h' - o -name '*.cpp'`
20:51 markveidemanis That just lists the files
20:53 sfan5 are you serious?
20:53 markveidemanis like this http://pastie.org/8951641
20:53 markveidemanis ?
20:53 sfan5 are you serious?
20:54 markveidemanis It does though
20:54 sfan5 answer my question
20:54 sfan5 *sigh*
20:54 markveidemanis Yes
20:56 sfan5 for read -r f; do sed -ire 's/u(\d\d?)/uint\1_t/' $f; done
20:56 sfan5 for read -r f; do sed -ire 's/s(\d\d?)/int\1_t/' $f; done
20:56 sfan5 that should do it
20:56 sfan5 oh wait
20:56 sfan5 forgot something
20:57 sfan5 find . -type f -name '*.h' - o -name '*.cpp' | for read -r f; do sed -ire 's/u(\d\d?)/uint\1_t/' $f; sed -ire 's/s(\d\d?)/int\1_t/' $f; done
20:59 markveidemanis unexpecte token near r
21:00 markveidemanis *near -r
21:00 sfan5 ..
21:00 sfan5 use -i -re instead of -ire
21:02 markveidemanis Ok, saved VM, will try tomorrow
21:02 markveidemanis Thanks for the help
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22:23 Megaf Hi all
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