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restcoser |
paramat: im perhaps a little late, but what is overgeneration? |
| 00:04 |
restcoser |
(btw: I love your mapgens, much helpful for learning) |
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Exio4 |
restcoser: he already answered what 'overgenerating' is |
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restcoser |
exio4: oh... i see... doesnt mean i understand it :D |
| 00:09 |
restcoser |
i mean, how can one access the nodes outside of the current block? |
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restcoser |
and why would one do it in the first place? |
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Exio4 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMIX |
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Exio4 |
i didn't know you had a backend w/ GCC |
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Exio4 |
you can make a distro that runs in non-existant hardware! |
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paramat |
oh hi |
| 00:24 |
paramat |
it means, during mapgen, to generate a particular chunk, the math is done for the chunk but also the 16x16x16 mapblocks around it |
| 00:24 |
restcoser |
but... |
| 00:24 |
restcoser |
you dont have the data for chunk+1? |
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restcoser |
*block if talking of MT |
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paramat |
you just do the perlin noise math for the outside volumes too |
| 00:25 |
restcoser |
so i guess one can't use voxelmanip then? |
| 00:26 |
restcoser |
or... |
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paramat |
well im working on how to overgenerate perlinmaps |
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paramat |
the LVM itself isn't a problem |
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restcoser |
well, i guess i can instruct it to create a 110x110 map... |
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restcoser |
well, the smoothing and chunkborder benefits are obvious, but lighting? |
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paramat |
yeah it helps lighting to know whats directly above a chunk |
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restcoser |
well, but you can't know if the "ceiling" is in 16 blocks or in 17 |
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restcoser |
or there at all |
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restcoser |
do you just assume after this block + 16 blocks no ceiling is reached? |
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restcoser |
*nodes |
| 00:33 |
paramat |
yeah indeed there's no way to detect a ceiling beyond 16 nodes so many lighting bugs remain |
| 00:34 |
restcoser |
hmm... thered need to be a system that informs the generated blocks below if a overhang gets generated... probably too costy to be worthwhile though |
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paramat |
as i understand it overgeneration makes hmmm's intentions for mgv7 possible, but for biome reasons |
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hmmmm |
paramat, overgeneration will fix the "top node at y=47" problem but won't help lighting issues (it'd just make the lighting glitch at larger distances) |
| 01:19 |
hmmmm |
but the thing is, i don't even really want to overgenerate in the y direction, only x and zd |
| 01:19 |
hmmmm |
i may have to though, depends on how it turns out |
| 01:21 |
paramat |
oh hi |
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hmmmm |
lighting problems would probably be fixed somewhat more (there will still be issues because solid nodes could be placed in the biome/vegetation phase) with y-direction overgeneration and light decay, however |
| 01:22 |
paramat |
forest mod is better than the thread suggests http://i.imgur.com/tbd6CUy.png |
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hmmmm |
agh really need to get working on that darn light decay too |
| 01:23 |
hmmmm |
i really love how there's that small band of grassy terrain sticking out into the beach biome |
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hmmmm |
i assume this is the 3d-noise based biome selection? |
| 01:24 |
paramat |
ive been converting this to use perlin maps since the author has his computer time limited by his parents :P |
| 01:24 |
paramat |
um, its mostly 2D noise |
| 01:25 |
hmmmm |
agh i'd love to see some of those in the core |
| 01:26 |
hmmmm |
you know, if you don't want to convert it to C++ there are people who would |
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paramat |
well maybe i'll convert one of mine to c++ |
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paramat |
yeah i would probably want to do it myself hehe |
| 01:29 |
paramat |
watershed mod is my best mapgen, ive described it in detail in the thread if you're interested in the use of noise https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8609 |
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PilzAdam |
Exio4, build it |
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paramat |
forest mod uses 17 perlin noises but i managed to get it down to 2-3 seconds per chunk for the mapgen loop itself. this is an impressive first mod by Gael de Sailly https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8772 |
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paramat |
... theres even a squaring of elevation noise which creates pathways winding through the terrain |
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Crunchn |
Hello, I am using Windows, have updated video card drivers and I get 3-4 FPS in minetest, does anyone know of such an issue? I am using the newest release from the downloads page. |
| 11:58 |
reactor |
john_minetest: hello every[CENSORED]. |
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Crunchn |
ATI Radeon 4890. It plays BF3 at 40 fps on medium. I think it's pretty good. |
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Crunchn |
I tried turning everything off so lowest settings to see if it made a difference. It didn't. I am downloading the build you sent me now. |
| 12:03 |
Crunchn |
A bit more bearable on the build you sent. I get 10 FPS. :D |
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Crunchn |
With all the visual settings off. |
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sfan5 |
meow |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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Exio4 |
Crunchn: what cpu? |
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Crunchn |
i7 3770 |
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Exio4 |
ahm |
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kaeza |
ohm |
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kaeza |
hai Exio4 |
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Exio4 |
watt |
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PilzAdam |
Exio4 Auditore |
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Exio4 |
i didn't even "Ezio" was a name or anything when i "created" Exio/4 |
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Exio4 |
from what game was "Ezio Auditore"? |
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Exio4 |
or from where it comes from |
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PilzAdam |
Assasins Creed |
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PilzAdam |
+s +' |
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reactor |
Ass as in Screed. |
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reactor |
What the hell is "Screed"? |
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Exio4 |
screwed |
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reactor |
Oh. A misspelling. |
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reactor |
Ass as in "Screwed". |
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Exio4 |
lol |
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Exio4 |
i don't really know |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: ELEFANTE from Pablo Larcuen on Vimeo |
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* Jordach |
dupes https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133493#p133493 |
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* Jordach |
should get around to making animatic quality versions of Pavel's models |
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* sfan5 |
purrs at Jordach |
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* Krock |
looks around, sits down. |
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Calinou |
my page about my mods remade finally :p |
| 16:51 |
Calinou |
that one: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/calinou_minetest_stuff.html |
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Jordach |
>Times New Roman |
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Jordach |
gtfo |
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Calinou |
Jordach, no, it's Ubuntu |
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Krock |
Horray! It's compatible with my CRT screen! |
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Calinou |
if you don't have it, it uses fallback font |
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iqualfragile |
Calinou: why not use that new @font thingy |
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Calinou |
how? ;) |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/y1s1DUT.png |
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iqualfragile |
Jordach: your kde theme looks kinda strange |
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Calinou |
Kindows. |
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iqualfragile |
Calinou: http://blog.themeforest.net/tutorials/how-to-achieve-cross-browser-font-face-support/ |
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Jordach |
meep meep https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133598#p133598 |
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Calinou |
http://i.imgur.com/o7qFKiK.jpg ↠Minecraft player after playing Minetest |
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sfan5 |
lol http://redd.it/20pyky |
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Calinou |
use real link please |
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Calinou |
the real link fits in one line |
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Calinou |
"3nd" ugh |
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PenguinDad |
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Calinou |
12力 |
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Krock |
Smiley |
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Calinou |
/)(^ε^)(\ |
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Sokomine |
hi kahrl. those tables for formspecs are really great! what i found also intresting was that "brighten" option in your example. is there a list somewhere of all these options? a "darken" does not seem to exist? |
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Jordach |
Sokomine, tried negative brightness? |
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Sokomine |
oh. no. do these options support parameters? i found no documentation for them |
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Sokomine |
jordach: there's been some progress on the traders that wear your skin :-) the current version can be found under https://github.com/Sokomine/mobf_trader |
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Jordach |
>mobf |
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Sokomine |
no, it does not need mobf. it just looks a bit like the trader in mobf and was inspired by that one to a degree |
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Sokomine |
the mod has no dependencies at all. media data is only the skins |
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Jordach |
rename the repo then |
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Sokomine |
hmm. i considered that but was unsure |
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Sokomine |
i mean..would "trader" really be a better name? i've named the main lua file with the actual trading already mob_trading.lua ... |
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Sokomine |
good mod names are hard to come by |
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Krock |
got BSoD'ed |
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kahrl |
Sokomine: IIRC ^[brighten was added in early 0.4 as a default response for when you hit a mob |
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kahrl |
but ^[darken etc don't exist |
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Sokomine |
oh? when you hit a mob? intresting |
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Sokomine |
regarding that...there's that new death messages mod. it would be great if such messages could really name the cause of a player's death |
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Sokomine |
john_minetest: hm. that is a possibility as well |
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Sokomine |
guess i ought to decide on a name before i really "release" it. the mod is alreayd pretty usable in almost all cases |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/aD8dio5.png |
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Jordach |
lolwat :D |
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Jordach |
john_minetest, pinned |
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EvergreenTree |
\o/ |
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EvergreenTree |
Just got home, and a monstercat release was waiting for me |
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EvergreenTree |
^.^ |
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