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01:00 lordawe hello
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01:01 lordawe pls, when creating a new world, what does the seed do?
01:02 VanessaE it defines the map itself
01:02 VanessaE it's a seed to the perlin noise generator
01:02 lordawe and which world generator do you prefer?
01:02 VanessaE I use v6 but others have different preferences.
01:02 lordawe ty VanessaE
01:02 VanessaE sure thing
01:02 lordawe pls
01:02 VanessaE sooner or later v7 will be ready
01:02 lordawe i can't install your home decor mod to the 049
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01:03 VanessaE what error do you get?
01:03 lordawe w8
01:03 VanessaE pastebin
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01:05 lordawe I am trying it via online mod repo
01:06 lordawe ERROR: D:gamesminetest049builtinmodstore.lua:320: attempt to index field 'moddetails' (a nil value)
01:06 lordawe that's it
01:06 VanessaE eh?
01:07 VanessaE that got smashed, I need to see the whole error text from your debug.txt file
01:07 VanessaE please use a pastebin service
01:07 VanessaE e.g. pastebin.ubuntu.com or so
01:07 VanessaE oh wait
01:07 VanessaE that's not a homedecor error
01:07 VanessaE that's an error with the mod store's code
01:08 VanessaE but lemme see if I can correct it by uploading a new version to the store
01:08 VanessaE one moment please.
01:08 lordawe http://pastebin.com/0jD76Jb5
01:09 lordawe i see
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01:12 lordawe VanessaE, you're right, it gives me the same error when installing MOB framework
01:12 lordawe but others are fine
01:14 VanessaE there, I deleted it and uploaded a new version
01:14 VanessaE have to wait for someone to approve it though
01:15 lordawe i see
01:16 lordawe ty
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01:17 lordawe i will install it manually
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01:19 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack
01:19 VanessaE get the latest from there.
01:19 lordawe okay
01:19 VanessaE idk if it'll work on 0.4.9-release, I don't usually use stable releases :)
01:19 VanessaE if it doesn't work, get a development build of Minetest :)
01:19 lordawe :) fun
01:22 kahrl MinetestBot, Y U not here?
01:22 AspireMint is place_node(pos, node) function clientside or serverside ? (client? because it return "ignore" if chunk is not loaded :S )
01:23 VanessaE server-side.
01:24 AspireMint hmm.. okay, thanks
01:24 lordawe as you said, it is not working with latest stable
01:35 AspireMint oops, not "ignore" but true/false, but it returns false if chunk is not loaded :(
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02:38 hoodedice Sup peeps
02:39 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/5a34f40d80ea1a339b599bc11db549a6bd86912f
02:39 hoodedice !title
02:39 ShadowBot hoodedice: Huge overhaul of the entire MapgenParams system · 5a34f40 · minetest/minetest · GitHub
02:39 hoodedice What does this do?
02:39 hoodedice And why did Shadowbot reply?
02:41 ShadowNinja us_0gb: ShadowBot uses notices to reply when there's an error.  (Like services do)
02:41 us_0gb ShadowNinja: It's odd that those notices are not directed to my notices tab then.
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02:42 us_0gb I'll ask in #hexchat .
02:42 ShadowNinja us_0gb: It's a channel notice.  A notice is simply a PRIVMSG that isn't meant to cause a reply, nothing more.
02:42 hoodedice As in, why didn't MinetestBot reply?
02:42 us_0gb Ah, I see.
02:43 hoodedice As in, where is she, anyway?
02:43 ShadowNinja However some clients apparently interpret it as a Highlight, which isn't what the RFCs say...
02:43 ShadowNinja -H+h
02:43 ShadowNinja hoodedice: She left a while ago to go on a date.
02:43 hoodedice Ah!
02:43 hoodedice I forgot lol
02:44 hoodedice Anyway, that link I posted
02:44 Sokomine does anyone of you know how to spawn a schematic while making sure it does not replace ANY existing nodes? is there a way for that?
02:44 hoodedice If I restate it in Simple English, does it mean that we now have a proper v7
02:44 hoodedice ?
02:45 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Save the area, load the schematic, then reload the area.  :-)
02:45 ShadowNinja hoodedice: That commit doesn't sound like "Finish MGv7".
02:45 Miner_48er Sokomine spawn it above target and move it down?
02:46 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/2927a327cabe4feddc0aeea0f4111d888560612f
02:47 hoodedice therefore the above refers to the stone only v7?
02:47 Sokomine ShadowNinja: no, that's not a practical approach there. that mod spawns schematics and thus creates the landscape. now...players join. and...they tend to destroy the landscape, cut down poor trees and such :-)
02:47 Sokomine and in this particular case, the trees are schematics
02:48 hoodedice moretrees?
02:49 ShadowNinja Sokomine: MTSM schematics?  Don't they have a noreplace flag or something like that?
02:51 Sokomine ShadowNinja: perhaps. i thought there was something like that...that's why i ask
02:51 Sokomine no, not moretrees. it's about the ethereal mod
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03:05 Megaf folks, my server is saying in out of memory!!
03:05 Megaf but I still have more than 6 GB free!
03:06 Megaf actually, it my be my client only complaining
03:06 Megaf ERROR[main]: WARNING: before.... Invalid name...
03:06 Megaf Out ofMemory
03:07 hoodedice Which mod?
03:08 Megaf hoodedice: nice 747 post by the way
03:08 hoodedice Thank you ^.^
03:08 hoodedice I copied it off somewhere anyway
03:08 hoodedice =P
03:08 Megaf I know, still nice
03:09 Megaf well, my issue is client side only, in gonna just ignore that by now
03:09 Megaf 1AM, I no longer thinking anymore
03:09 Megaf Just listening Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
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03:13 VanessaE Is there a way to get the text that I just sent to someone via forum email (not PM)?  I forgot to keep a copy.
03:14 NekoGloop you don't because the forums are a piece of shit
03:16 Sokomine VanessaE: i know of none. perhaps the receipant of the mail received it and can hand you a copy...
03:16 VanessaE it's okay, chances are he'll reply and quote the whole thing back anyway
03:19 VanessaE well I sent a PM.  good idea.
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03:37 Sokomine recently, i had a problem with furnaces: placed a row of them with worldedit...and...boom...everything crashed. seems to be the same problem as with the schematics: uninitialized metadata
03:38 Sokomine i don't know if it happens in current minetest_game (most likely it does)
03:39 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/com​mit/d09d8f02a4e2fdb7f315d3231ce721efae6e6902
03:39 VanessaE at least part of that was fixed anyway
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03:45 Sokomine thanks for the info!
03:46 VanessaE sure
03:46 VanessaE :)
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03:55 hoodedice <NekoGloop> you don't because the forums are a piece of shit
03:55 hoodedice DIE
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05:11 AspireMint .. function minetest.node_dig(pos, node, digger)  generate random "pos" numbers and dont know why :( i hate lua..
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05:49 whmark AspireMint: what do you mean by 'random'?
05:55 us_0gb minetest.node_dig({x=math.rand(), y=math.rand(), z=math.rand()}, node, digger)
05:55 AspireMint whmark, first node have position (30,4,20) and second node (above first node) have (30,0,0)
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06:13 whmark AspireMint: can you show us your code?
06:20 whmark I've added a privilege 'tnt_use' to the tnt mod, that way you can allow trusted players to use tnt. If anyone wants the updated code I'll upload it
06:22 AspireMint whmark, i think now it works, somewhere in recursive function was bad number :/ , but still there is small problem with meta data..
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07:07 rambomedic who maintains the website?
07:08 rambomedic nevermind it's c55
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07:51 rambomedic est-dev
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08:14 sfan5 there she is
08:14 sfan5 ~config channel #minetest reply.whenAddressedBy.chars ~
08:14 ShadowBot sfan5: O.K.
08:14 sfan5 !seen ShadowBot
08:14 MinetestBot sfan5: shadowbot was last seen at 2014-02-15 08:14:29 UTC on #minetest
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08:30 whiskers75 ~help
08:30 ShadowBot whiskers75: help [<plugin>] [<command>]
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09:03 RagnarLaud clear
09:03 RagnarLaud hi!
09:03 RagnarLaud VanessaE, I just concured my fears! :D
09:03 RagnarLaud #SpelledWrongz
09:06 RagnarLaud *Throws a cup* FINE!
09:11 VanessaE ehm...
09:11 VanessaE wut?
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10:39 puhfa a quick question, sorry for asking instead of going through the changelogs: has the 0.4.9 chat crash been fixed yet?
10:49 moggers Where's the FAQ?
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11:52 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:59 reactor Ehlo.
11:59 Megaf Hello PilzAdam
11:59 reactor Jordach: o/
11:59 Megaf Good morning folks
11:59 reactor I forgot, have I shown you the map in action?
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13:03 phantombeta Hai
13:04 Jordach sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/A83KEnU.png
13:05 sfan5 i could do that with a python script, still nice
13:05 Jordach sfan5, i prefer hand done (tools are for the lazy)
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13:14 PilzAdam Jordach, why do you use gimp then?
13:14 PilzAdam its a tool
13:14 Jordach PilzAdam, i meant programmed tools for tools
13:15 PilzAdam your PC is a tool; gimp is a programmed tool for your PC :-p
13:16 Jordach do you have to be a perdantic tit?
13:16 Jordach oh wait, that checkbox was filled in when joining the IRC
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13:25 sfan5 !c (16, 16) * 4
13:25 MinetestBot (16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16)
13:25 Megaf What the hell is this? http://paste.debian.net/82193/
13:25 sfan5 !c (16, 16) * (4, 4)
13:25 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'tuple'
13:25 PilzAdam sfan5, wow, thx
13:25 PilzAdam that really helped me
13:26 sfan5 PilzAdam: no problem, I like to be helpful
13:27 sfan5 ! 16*4
13:27 sfan5 !c 16*4
13:27 MinetestBot 64
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13:28 Megaf Help? http://paste.debian.net/82193/
13:30 cisoun !b64e "hi !"
13:30 MinetestBot ImhpICEi
13:30 cisoun awesome
13:30 Jordach hey cisoun
13:30 cisoun !b64e "hey Jordach"
13:30 MinetestBot ImhleSBKb3JkYWNoIg==
13:31 Jordach :>
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13:34 lordawe Hello
13:34 lordawe can you help me with server @ localhost?
13:34 lordawe pls
13:35 sfan5 lordawe: just ask your question
13:35 lordawe if i run server normaly it gives me error:
13:35 lordawe 14:29:57: ACTION[main]: World at [D:\games\minetest049server\bin\..\worlds\novy]
13:35 lordawe 14:29:57: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on fe80:0:0:0:cda8:4419:9147:726c:30000.
13:35 lordawe 14:29:58: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?)
13:35 lordawe was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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13:36 sfan5 cisoun: are you that amazed by my bot? :D
13:36 lordawe really cool
13:36 lordawe :o(
13:36 lordawe :)
13:36 sfan5 lordawe: is some other software already listening on port 30000?
13:36 lordawe no
13:36 sfan5 are you sure
13:36 sfan5 ?
13:37 lordawe but when i disable ipv6 in .conf it runs but:
13:37 lordawe 14:30:41: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.108:30000.
13:37 lordawe it should be 127.0.0.1
13:38 sfan5 have you even tried if it works this way?
13:38 sfan5 it also doesn't need to be 127.0.0.1
13:39 lordawe yes, but it is not wotking
13:39 sfan5 what does it say when you connect to localhost
13:39 lordawe it just says connecting to server
13:39 sfan5 are you using the right port?
13:40 lordawe yes
13:40 sfan5 try putting in 0.0.0.108 in the address field
13:41 lordawe i tried localhost and IP too, it is the same. Previous version 047 worked nicely
13:42 sfan5 try
13:42 sfan5 bind_address = 127.0.0.1
13:42 sfan5 in minetest.conf
13:42 SylvieLorxu Could anyone remind me how to use custom skins for characters on Minetest again? I recall the wiki being outdated last time
13:43 Jordach SylvieLorxu, https://github.com/PilzAdam/player_textures
13:43 sfan5 SylvieLorxu: you need a skin mod if you want custom skins for players
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13:43 SylvieLorxu sfan5: That's on the server side?
13:44 sfan5 yes
13:44 sfan5 there are no client-side mods
13:44 lordawe well, it's strange. i bind address 127.0.0.1 and it shows me 0.0.0.1:30000
13:44 SylvieLorxu sfan5: I recall changing it client-side but for all players at once, but okay, thanks
13:44 SylvieLorxu You too for the link, Jordach!
13:44 sfan5 lordawe: try to connect now
13:45 sfan5 0.0.0.1 is likely more correct than 0.0.0.108
13:45 lordawe 14:44:4 ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.1:30000.
13:46 lordawe voila, finaly!
13:47 lordawe dialog windows says 0.0.0.1:30000 but i connect to 127.0.0.1:30000 and it works
13:47 sfan5 yeah
13:47 lordawe thank you
13:47 Jordach 0.x.x.x and 127.x.x.x are loopbacks for localhost
13:47 lordawe it is so confusing
13:47 sfan5 0.0.0.n and 127.0.0.n are the same on windows
13:47 lordawe ty
13:47 lordawe bye
13:47 Jordach !next
13:47 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
13:48 sfan5 !meow
13:48 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Jordach's head
13:48 Jordach !nope.avi
13:48 sfan5 !yes.mkv
13:48 Jordach !lolwat.png
13:48 Jordach sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/ZRmXxY9.png
13:49 sfan5 meow
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13:51 cisoun sfan5: sorry, yes that's a pretty cool bot.
13:51 sfan5 I suppose you have read the documentation of the commands
13:52 cisoun yup
13:52 sfan5 the !c command is pretty cool too
13:54 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr(ord(c[1]) ^ (int(math.tan(c[0]+3.7582)*10) % 0x13)) for c in zip(xrange(9999), 'oc.f`\x7flvg'))
13:54 MinetestBot 'hi cisoun'
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14:02 lordawe sfan5, no luck so far
14:02 cisoun nice one
14:02 sfan5 lordawe: no luck with what
14:02 lordawe i can connect on the same machine, but I can't connect from another PC in the same net
14:02 sfan5 lol
14:03 sfan5 when you only listen on localhost only you can access it
14:03 sfan5 put in your local network addr
14:03 sfan5 (where you put in 127.0.0.1 in the settings)
14:03 lordawe i know, i am not such lame
14:04 lordawe i am in range of 192.168.1.x
14:04 sfan5 what is your local ip?
14:04 lordawe server runs on desktop PC with 192.168.1.2
14:05 sfan5 what have you put after 'bind_address = ' in your server config?
14:05 lordawe i am on 192.168.1.254, firewall is set to pass through and nothing
14:05 lordawe as I said, 047 works on 1st click for me
14:05 sfan5 <sfan5> what have you put after 'bind_address = ' in your server config?
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14:06 lordawe 127.0.0.1
14:06 sfan5 put 192.168.1.2 there
14:07 sfan5 only your own pc can access the loopback (127.0.0.1)
14:07 sfan5 if you listen on loopback it won't be available on the network
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14:09 lordawe cool!
14:09 lordawe it works now
14:09 sfan5 !next
14:09 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
14:09 lordawe but it is confusing, because
14:10 lordawe previous versions have another settings using localhost ip
14:10 lordawe thanks
14:11 sfan5 !c range(4)
14:11 MinetestBot [0, 1, 2, 3]
14:12 Jordach wrong, wrong.
14:13 sfan5 what?
14:13 Jordach count should start at 1
14:13 sfan5 lol no
14:13 sfan5 we aren't lua
14:13 sfan5 +using
14:13 Jordach because it's asking until the number 4, rather than that bad idea
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14:14 sfan5 it makes more sense to use  for i in range(len(array)): do_something(array[i])  than  for i in range(len(array)): do_something(array[i-1])
14:14 RiRa looking at minetest. but i dont get Right control or pgup assigned to keymap_jump = KEY_CTRL without that you cant play it. lucky the move keys i copuld move back to the cursor keys.
14:15 RiRa but whats the key code for Rctrl or betetr pgup ?
14:16 sfan5 RiRa: all key codes: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/namespa​ceirr.html#a54da2a0e231901735e3da1b0edf72eb3
14:17 RiRa thanks thats intressting. google came not with that
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14:39 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/laKUTFK.png
14:39 Jordach bumpmaps?
14:39 sfan5 nope
14:40 sfan5 this thing: http://pastie.org/private/xapvrskoseiom04gk7d8aa
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14:43 Jordach noice
14:43 Jordach sfan5, make a 128px pack with it and release it
14:43 sfan5 k
14:43 sfan5 done
14:47 sfan5 Jordach: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com​/u/30267315/Minetest/pack.tar.bz2
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14:48 EvergreenTree o/
14:49 Jordach o/
14:50 PenguinDad o\
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14:58 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/F5UJe8d.png slightly different method
14:58 Jordach sfan5, looks better
14:58 sfan5 it subtracts the color diff instead of adding it
14:58 sfan5 well
14:59 sfan5 v[i] = int((v[i] / 256.0) * float(256-n))
14:59 sfan5 instead of
14:59 sfan5 v[i] = int((v[i] / 256.0) * float(256+n))
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15:57 sfan5 Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8579
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17:11 kaeza blaaaaargh
17:11 kaeza hi
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17:17 reactor HELO.
17:22 Jordach kaeza, dafuq
17:22 Jordach where've you been
17:24 VanessaE KAEZA!!!!!!
17:24 VanessaE WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN!
17:24 VanessaE *pounce*
17:24 kaeza in hell, and back :)
17:25 kaeza (no internetz :((((( )
17:25 kaeza how's everyone?
17:25 VanessaE I figured that was the case - everyone is okay, how are you?
17:25 kaeza is 1.0 out yet¿
17:25 kaeza ?*
17:25 VanessaE nope
17:25 kaeza :(
17:26 kaeza I'm fine, thanks. just a bit bored without net connection
17:26 kaeza I expect it will take about a month more
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17:27 VanessaE why so logn?
17:27 VanessaE long*
17:27 VanessaE did they finally cut you off hardcore?
17:27 kaeza something like that :)
17:28 VanessaE all right, spill it
17:28 VanessaE what happened?
17:28 kaeza the other way round; decided to ditch those asses and get a better ISP
17:28 VanessaE ahh
17:28 kaeza :)
17:31 reactor Hell I should switch ISP, too.
17:31 reactor If you people ever go to Russia, never ever use Rostelecom. They're cheap assholes.
17:32 sfan5 If you people ever go to Germany, never ever use Deutsche Telekom. They have bad support.
17:35 reactor ...state telephone companies are bad?
17:35 reactor In every country?
17:36 reactor I wonder what are British Telecom and AT&T.
17:36 Jordach BT isn't that bad
17:36 sfan5 they were a state company
17:36 sfan5 they no longer are
17:36 sfan5 (IIRC)
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17:50 VanessaE "We don't have to care.  We're the phone company."
17:55 Jordach FUCK
17:55 Jordach WHY HAVEN'T I DONE THIS
17:55 Jordach Cycles IS 10000000000% EASIER than Internals
17:56 kaeza wat
17:58 VanessaE kaeza:  he's taken to hardcore blender stuff
18:00 kaeza guessed :P
18:17 Jordach kaeza, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage​/screenshot-150214-181654.php <- exporting
18:17 Jordach reliance on WINE isn't a good thing :<
18:17 reactor Jordach: ?
18:17 Jordach reactor, exporting a world directly
18:18 reactor to MT?
18:18 kaeza whoa
18:19 Jordach nope
18:19 Jordach for rendering in Cycles
18:19 kaeza how'd you do that?
18:20 Jordach magic :>
18:21 kaeza <.<
18:21 Jordach http://www.zimagez.com/zimage​/screenshot-150214-182121.php <- danger clse
18:21 Jordach close*
18:22 Jordach kaeza, http://jordach.deviantart.com for other shit :>
18:23 Jordach um, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage​/screenshot-150214-182322.php
18:23 Jordach same selection, different exporters
18:28 Jordach pfft
18:28 Jordach blender OOMs
18:40 Jordach wtf
18:40 Jordach Cycles DOES LOOK BETTER...
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18:52 hoodedice EvergreenTree!
18:53 hoodedice Not here. -.-
18:53 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=129948#p129948
18:53 hoodedice Dude's been bumping old topics like this with useless crap, and I'm the one who gets scolded
18:54 hoodedice HI MinetestBot
18:54 MinetestBot Hello hoodedice.
18:54 hoodedice MinetestBot, how was your date?
18:57 MinetestBot Good, thank you.
18:57 * Jordach isn't sure about loving cycles or hating it
18:58 hoodedice I like cycles
18:58 hoodedice Water cycle, bi-cycle
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18:59 VanessaE kaeza: *poke*
18:59 Jordach hoodedice, i'm speaking of Blender Cycles engine
18:59 hoodedice VanessaE,  The positive effects of minecraft
18:59 hoodedice DAMN LOL
18:59 hoodedice Wrong pasta
18:59 VanessaE kaeza:  I've since switched to quassel.  Any chance of you rewriting mt_irc.py to work with it once it has some kind of scripting?
18:59 Jordach with Internals, i can make a really good looking world: but Cycles allows realistic damn water
18:59 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=129948#p129948
18:59 VanessaE hoodedice: ehm..  I have no interest in minecraft.
19:00 hoodedice srry, VanessaE, wrong paste. I was fighting the good fight and had to quote someone. But actual concern is in the link above
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19:01 hoodedice This guy's been necro bumping old stuff with usually shit posts like " cool" or stuff
19:01 VanessaE saw it.
19:01 hoodedice It wastes three hundred seconds of my life
19:02 VanessaE however, player_textures still works fine.  I use it on my servers.  nothing wrong with bumping old topics (though shitposting is a problem)
19:02 hoodedice Not to ignore the fact that someone always scolds me after that
19:02 john_minetest PilzAdam: Updated my ultimate game :D
19:03 hoodedice Also, Canonical is crapping out ubuntu
19:03 VanessaE I guess it depends on what you're bumping and why
19:03 VanessaE how's that?  what do you mean?
19:03 kaeza VanessaE: ow
19:03 VanessaE (I still use 12.04 on the desktop so idk what they're doing lately)
19:03 hoodedice I can't even reinstall XUbuntu because even the installer seems broken lol
19:04 kaeza VanessaE: quassel = no scripting
19:04 hoodedice Xubuntu 64 bit is a joke.
19:04 VanessaE kaeza: I know - for now.  sooner or later it'll have something.
19:04 kaeza that's one reason why I got back to HC
19:04 VanessaE hoodedice: um, I run Xubuntu 12.04 64 bit.
19:04 * Jordach runs 32Bit
19:04 hoodedice 12.04 must be good
19:04 VanessaE 12.04 is okay.
19:04 VanessaE 13.10 is shit.
19:04 hoodedice I used 12.04 and the only broken thing was Simple Scan
19:04 VanessaE (because it enforces NFS v4)
19:05 kaeza I still use 12.04 (plain 'buntu)
19:05 hoodedice Also, 13.10 did away with ia32 libs
19:05 kaeza what's so bad about 13-10?
19:05 hoodedice Which broke at least half of the 32 bit apps I was trying to run
19:05 kaeza oh
19:05 VanessaE kaeza: NFS v4 sucks big, green, slimy, hairy donkey dicks.
19:05 VanessaE 'nuff said?
19:05 VanessaE :)
19:05 kaeza heh
19:06 hoodedice I'll have to clean reinstall this PoS
19:06 kaeza well, I guess I'll stick to my system for a long time to come
19:06 hoodedice DO NOT switch to Trusty
19:06 kaeza and to hell with EOL
19:06 hoodedice It cannot be trusted
19:06 VanessaE if I reinstall my desktop, I might end up going with straight debian.
19:06 sfan5 lol
19:07 sfan5 VanessaE: don't debian, go crunchbang or xubuntu
19:07 hoodedice Wonder how many new experiments canonical is gonna conduct on that one
19:07 hoodedice sfan5, even Xubuntu is fucking broken
19:07 VanessaE sfan5: I've been using xubuntu for years.
19:07 sfan5 hoodedice: tell me how it's broken!
19:07 VanessaE it's beginning to use its luster.
19:07 hoodedice And I've also been using it for years
19:07 hoodedice LightDM
19:08 hoodedice multiarch instead of ia-32 libs
19:08 hoodedice Run any 32 bit apps and it will output some files as missing
19:08 hoodedice And I can't even reinstall it. I'll have to purge every package from history
19:08 sfan5 so you want a perfect system that has every lib you need
19:09 sfan5 reinstall what?
19:09 hoodedice reinstall xubuntu
19:09 hoodedice 32 bit libs is like
19:09 hoodedice The basic-est thing EVER
19:10 hoodedice Now they ask me to append :i386 to every package I need
19:10 hoodedice Which craps out every other package I have
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19:10 sfan5 oh yeah
19:10 hoodedice Take for example, python
19:10 sfan5 my friend had this
19:10 hoodedice I did an apt-get install python:i386 or something
19:10 sfan5 steam tried to install some i386 libs everytime it started, if he would enter yes it would break everything because it would remove xorg
19:11 hoodedice I got python x32 but lost the fucking software center
19:11 sfan5 multiarch is not a idea, but many distros break when using multiarcch
19:11 sfan5 multiarch*
19:11 Jordach http://www.zimagez.com/zimage​/screenshot-150214-191039.php
19:11 sfan5 ok wait
19:11 hoodedice My Xorg got broken in the end too lol. But I don't steam on xubuntu
19:11 sfan5 s/.+/multiarch is not a bad idea, but many distros did it badly so that it breaks everything when you use it/
19:12 VanessaE been there, dealt with that :)
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19:12 VanessaE like how debian did it at first :)
19:12 VanessaE (and still does it I think)
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19:13 hoodedice Sorry, I derped XD
19:13 Jordach n00b
19:16 VanessaE you suck :)
19:16 VanessaE Jordach: seen the latest map?
19:16 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hob​bies/minetest/worldmaps/Minetest_World.png
19:16 VanessaE it's exploding
19:17 Jordach pfft
19:17 VanessaE it'll be as populated as Redcrab's....in about 5 years :P
19:17 kaeza I hope my hovercraft store is still intact <.<
19:18 kaeza wait... is that creative or survival?
19:18 VanessaE unless you've figured out how to build hovercraft on 30005....  :P
19:18 VanessaE that's the Almost Vanilla server, kaeza.
19:18 hoodedice VanessaE, is that default mapgen?
19:18 kaeza oh
19:18 VanessaE hoodedice: yep
19:18 VanessaE v6
19:18 hoodedice OMG, didn't know it could be so beautiful
19:20 NekoGloop it's so ugly ingame though
19:20 hoodedice lol ya
19:20 VanessaE :(
19:20 Jordach +8^[rotate(90)]
19:20 kaeza 3
19:20 kaeza 333oops
19:20 kaeza stupid keyboard
19:21 kaeza Jordach: ?
19:21 hoodedice infinity?
19:21 Jordach add infinited to neko's message :>
19:22 hoodedice I'm gonna kill the installation process
19:22 kaeza :P
19:22 VanessaE well can't do much about it now
19:22 VanessaE not unless someone finds a way to make a new mapgen that can blend with an existing v6-generated world but with much more epic landscape
19:22 hoodedice But then again, I can't find the process
19:22 VanessaE (blend as in no map block cliffs)
19:23 hoodedice brb. Force rebooting
19:24 Jordach VanessaE, if else regenerate the fuckin lot
19:24 PilzAdam Jordach, isnt it more like ^[rotateR:90 ?
19:24 sfan5 yes it is
19:24 Jordach you really are a pedantic asswipe, PilzAdam :>
19:26 VanessaE REGENERATE _ALL_ THE MAPBLOCKS!
19:26 VanessaE *looks at well-built town*
19:26 VanessaE regenerate _all_ the mapblocks? :-/
19:26 Jordach -!-: NUCLEAR STRIKE INITIATED
19:26 sfan5 VanessaE: someone could write a mod that builds a bridge between two mapblocks of old mapgen <-> new mapgen
19:27 sfan5 wouldn't look that bad too
19:27 VanessaE sfan5:  that sounds like a job for paramat :)
19:27 sfan5 Y U NO s/paramat/sfan5/ ? D:
19:27 VanessaE a terrain smoother
19:27 VanessaE well you could too
19:28 VanessaE but paramat is the one who is always making those epic mapgen mods :)
19:28 VanessaE I haven't seen much from you lately :P
19:28 kaeza -you now do mapgen sfan5? :o
19:28 VanessaE he does.
19:28 kaeza +stuff
19:28 sfan5 yeah, kinda
19:28 Jordach nore + sfan5 + paramat + peacock = JESUS FUCKING CHIRST OF A MAPGEN
19:28 VanessaE he and nore wrote the mapgen that's used on my 30003 server.
19:28 sfan5 it is?
19:28 sfan5 nice
19:28 sfan5 well
19:28 sfan5 not nice but awesome
19:29 kaeza ^^
19:29 sfan5 !server port:30003
19:29 MinetestBot sfan5: Megaf After The End | megaf.no-ip.info:30003 | Clients: 10/14, 14 | Version: 0.4.9-Tue Feb 11 09:26:11 BRST 2014 | ping: 0.262
19:29 sfan5 not that one
19:29 VanessaE sfan5:  yeah, you know, that "MG-Nore" test server?  that runs the thing you guys were working on, though I dunno if what I have is up-to-date or is even the thing you were working on or not.
19:29 sfan5 !server vanessae port:30003
19:29 MinetestBot sfan5: VanessaE's/Nore's Lua mapgen test Server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30003 | Clients: 0/50, 7 | Version: 0.4.9-dev | ping: 0.100
19:29 sfan5 \o/
19:30 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/​hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/MG_World.png
19:30 VanessaE from last night's run of the mapper
19:30 VanessaE look like yours?
19:30 sfan5 yes
19:30 sfan5 savanna's are pretty rare
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19:31 * VanessaE takes sfan5's apostrophe and buries it
19:31 sfan5 oh, oops
19:31 VanessaE I should reset this map.
19:31 sfan5 do if you want
19:31 sfan5 also git pull to see if mg's up to date
19:31 VanessaE it's not meant for building anyway, this is strictly for testing the mapgen
19:32 VanessaE looks to be up-to-date yeah
19:33 VanessaE done.
19:33 * sfan5 joins
19:33 VanessaE wait for it to reboot.
19:34 sfan5 k
19:34 VanessaE there it goes.
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19:34 sfan5 VanessaE: have you taken a look at the texture pack I just released?
19:34 hoodedice sfan5, wasn't RBA's build doing the same?
19:34 kaeza teh duck
19:34 hoodedice Anyway, xubuntu's finally made me happy again.
19:34 kaeza homedecor_modpack ·_·
19:35 VanessaE kaeza: yep, get with the program :)
19:35 VanessaE I separated signs_lib
19:35 kaeza sooo my whole work is lost D:
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19:35 stormchaser3000 hi
19:35 sfan5 hoodedice: I dunno if it's doing the _same_ but it is doing something similar
19:35 VanessaE kaeza: well I didn't know where you were or wtf was going on
19:35 kaeza J/K, I did nothing
19:35 VanessaE sfan5:  which one?
19:35 VanessaE kaeza: oh :P
19:36 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8579
19:36 kaeza been lazy all time playing *ahem* Borderlands
19:36 VanessaE kaeza: well you can at least force pull and/or rebase or whatever and do the lcoked signs :)
19:36 kaeza not on my comp now :(
19:37 kaeza (PS: Windows sucks)
19:37 hoodedice Which Windows?
19:37 kaeza 7
19:37 hoodedice Use 8.1
19:37 hoodedice *flies away*
19:37 kaeza actually, all of them (excemp 98SE=
19:37 hoodedice 98SE lol
19:37 kaeza except 98SE*
19:37 hoodedice I actually used it *sob*
19:38 hoodedice Played Roller coaster tycoon on it,
19:38 hoodedice And the original Prince of Persia
19:38 stormchaser3000 i want windows 7 ust for it's wide range of campatibility
19:38 sfan5 VanessaE: <sfan5> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8579
19:38 hoodedice 8.1 is actually better for compatibility
19:39 stormchaser3000 yeah but windows 8.1 is glitchy comaired to 8
19:39 VanessaE sfan5: oh yes, I saw that post.
19:39 stormchaser3000 7*
19:39 kaeza Linux is better!
19:39 stormchaser3000 lol 8 is even glitchier
19:39 VanessaE sfan5: but didn't you see that RBA's working on an in-shaders version of this?
19:39 sfan5 yes I did
19:39 stormchaser3000 ans yyes linux is by far the eaiest and best os
19:39 hoodedice *easiest and best...
19:39 kaeza thinking about switching to *BSD. but maybe not worth the stuff
19:39 hoodedice DUDE. I wish you were in my place now. I REALLY WISH
19:39 sfan5 > linux is [...] the eaiest [...] os
19:39 sfan5 wtf
19:39 sfan5 no
19:39 sfan5 linux is not easy
19:40 * hoodedice agrees with sfan5
19:40 * kaeza too
19:40 kaeza still...
19:40 stormchaser3000 well linux is easy if you are fammiliar with the commands
19:40 hoodedice ...awesome
19:40 hoodedice I really wish we had animated sigs on the forums
19:40 sfan5 VanessaE: is something wrong with your remote_media server? I don't see any traffic with wireshark
19:40 hoodedice http://www.punk-o-matic.net/smf/inde​x.php?topic=4910.msg196090#msg196090
19:41 hoodedice ^ Dat sig there
19:41 kaeza animated sigs?
19:41 hoodedice .gif
19:41 hoodedice signature
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19:41 sfan5 stormchaser3000: linux does not have any commands, it's only the kernel
19:41 sfan5 hoodedice: pls no gif, apng or webp pls
19:41 stormchaser3000 tat is what i mean the kernel
19:41 kaeza yeah, and also allow 1080p images in signatures
19:41 hoodedice I know, I won't use lol
19:42 Reece Hello everyone
19:42 hoodedice hey
19:42 kaeza hi
19:42 stormchaser3000 hello reece
19:42 hoodedice How can we help you today?
19:42 Reece Anbody got some good tutorials for mod developing ?
19:42 Reece Hey Storm!
19:42 Reece Nice to meet you
19:42 hoodedice Sir, we have a nice piece of documentation
19:42 kaeza Reece: best one: check out other people's stuff
19:42 hoodedice That we call lua_api.txt
19:42 stormchaser3000 um ok
19:43 stormchaser3000 lol nice to meet you to
19:43 Reece Okay cheers kaeza
19:43 hoodedice Here you go sir
19:43 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/mine​test/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
19:43 hoodedice Is that all?
19:43 sfan5 kaeza: pfff, how about 2160p (4K)?
19:43 Reece pretty new to modding :)
19:43 kaeza you learn more from "real world" code than from "hello world" style programs
19:43 stormchaser3000 i made a pretty useless mod
19:44 hoodedice !next
19:44 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
19:45 * VanessaE wanders off to add HDX support for the MG mod.
19:45 kaeza VanessaE: while you're at it, add computers!
19:46 VanessaE pfft
19:46 Jordach THAT'S MY LINE
19:46 VanessaE that's 10x as much work :P
19:46 Jordach GTFO.
19:46 kaeza get some nice C64 image :)
19:46 * hoodedice waits for installation to get over. Then will add git, intel GFX drivers, compile minetest and host a private server
19:46 * hoodedice will do all while thinking about how he should just boot up Windows and finish off his assignment(s) first
19:46 hoodedice *...all of this...
19:47 VanessaE kaeza:
19:47 kaeza why Windows?
19:47 VanessaE oops.
19:47 kaeza VanessaE:
19:47 hoodedice oops
19:47 hoodedice Ninja'd!
19:47 kaeza :)
19:47 hoodedice Because stability
19:47 hoodedice And internet explorer
19:47 Jordach PFFT.
19:47 kaeza "stability" <-<
19:47 VanessaE kaeza: I'd need to have an actual C64 and C128 and the others, in very good condition to actually do it.  my C128 is in good shape but is yellowed (needs retr0brite).  I don't have a breadbox C64 or the others.
19:47 Jordach PFFFFFFFFTTTTTT.....
19:47 hoodedice *flies away*
19:47 kaeza <.<*
19:48 Jordach VanessaE, EMU :d
19:48 VanessaE Jordach: um..
19:48 VanessaE I don't think VICE will suffice for this.....
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19:49 hoodedice brb. Installation komplete
19:50 Jordach VanessaE, so you can always ask me to distort the image as if it was a CRT screen using Blender
19:50 VanessaE Jordach: um, this is about the computers themselves, not their displays.
19:50 Jordach OH
19:51 Jordach then use some sort of plastic :P
19:52 Reece is this minecraft ?
19:52 Jordach nope
19:52 Reece Wow, Woops
19:52 Reece Wrong IRC!
19:52 VanessaE this is Minetest, not Minecraft
19:52 Reece xD
19:52 VanessaE an Open source program
19:52 Reece My bad!
19:52 VanessaE similar in concept.
19:53 stormchaser3000 lol
19:53 Reece lolz
19:53 Reece laterz
19:53 Reece guys
19:53 Reece have a good life xD, Byee!
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19:53 hoodedice FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
19:53 Jordach </rage>
19:53 hoodedice GO TO HELL YOU FUCKING DEVIL SPAWN
19:54 hoodedice It destroyed my windows partition
19:54 kaeza so language
19:54 kaeza much rage
19:54 kaeza wow
19:54 hoodedice All my code for my computer class is lost forever
19:54 hoodedice screwy shit
19:55 * Jordach is often happy to help
19:55 hoodedice Nah, I'll just bug the guys at #ubuntu
19:56 kaeza have you RTFM?
19:56 Jordach so you're going to the guys who indirectly fucked your ship up?
19:56 Jordach dat typo
19:57 sfan5 hoodedice: define destroyed
19:57 sfan5 try testdisk
19:57 hoodedice Installed xubuntu on a partition that over wrote everything
19:57 sfan5 uhhh
19:57 sfan5 bad
19:58 hoodedice I didn't tell it to
19:58 hoodedice It just assumed stuff
19:58 Jordach hoodedice, i always manually make my partitions
19:58 stormchaser3000 hoodedice
19:58 stormchaser3000 tha is why you make a backup copy of your system
19:59 * sfan5 also always uses manual partioning
19:59 hoodedice sfan5, I told it to remove existing unknown Linux installation
20:02 Jordach hoodedice, you should always use GParted and make a clean partition (eg, nuke it or delete it) and use it like that
20:02 hoodedice I understand
20:02 hoodedice I was lazy. My bad.
20:03 hoodedice But I have to fgure out a way to get WIndows 8 back, and then work from there
20:03 hoodedice That is VERY important for me atm
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20:05 hoodedice THERE'S LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!
20:06 hoodedice see a 511 MB EFI.
20:06 sfan5 Jordach: what is this thing? http://i.imgur.com/T8toXZi.gif (aka has science gone too far?)
20:06 sfan5 hoodedice: the efi partition won't help you
20:06 sfan5 you need to get windows somehow and install it again
20:07 hoodedice No, that's photoshop gone too far
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20:10 MinetestBot rambomedic: Sorry, I haven't seen me around.
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20:15 VanessaE sfan5: I'm gonna restore the map from this morning's backup.  there was no real need to reset it.  it doesn't look any different from before.  I was kinda hoping for those epic mountains and so forth we saw before.
20:15 kaeza gtg... for now. bbl maybe
20:16 ShadowNinja puhfa: Yes, it has.  It was fixed by adding a muted to logging.
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20:38 sfan5 VanessaE: change the 100 @ https://github.com/Novatux/​mg/blob/master/init.lua#L53 to something greater
20:39 VanessaE too late :)
20:39 VanessaE I'm gonna keep the server at its current state for now
20:40 VanessaE if you change anything too drastically, maybe you can do the previously-discussed land contouring mod also :)
20:40 VanessaE I decided I shouldn't reset the map
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20:47 hoodedice So. I think I'll just finish off my assignment, which I was lucky enough to use google drive for
20:47 hoodedice And I now have to dish out cash for a recovery disk. FACK.
20:47 nore VanessaE, that mod would be a good idea... I've thought about it a bit, but not done anything yet
20:48 sfan5 hoodedice: you mean a backup hdd?
20:48 hoodedice No, a Windows 8 dvd
20:48 hoodedice From Toshiba
20:48 Jordach $60 isn't much to store essential files on
20:49 Jordach hoodedice, just google for the W8.1 ISO and use yer lappy key
20:49 hoodedice 8.1 does not have keys anymore
20:49 Jordach well, 8 anyways
20:49 hoodedice Key is stored in BIOS itself
20:49 hoodedice And I don't want to mess anything anymore
20:50 hoodedice As long as it costs $10 without shipping, I'll gladly pay for it
20:50 puhfa ShadowNinja: okay, thats good news. thank you
21:10 sfan5 glibc caused nginx to fail to compile, lol
21:21 * Jordach experiments with Cycles some more
21:21 Jordach Note to self: get an nVidia card for CUDE
21:21 Jordach CUDA*
21:22 sfan5 note to Jordach: cuda is a mess to get working unde linux
21:22 sfan5 s/unde/with/
21:22 Jordach sfan5, there's also a windows partition on my new box coming soon
21:22 john_minetest o_o
21:24 Jordach just for some video editing purely
21:24 Jordach (and Steam()
21:32 Jordach john_minetest, ever played with Cycles render?
21:39 john_minetest Jordach: A bit.
21:39 john_minetest Nice stuff.
21:39 Jordach john_minetest, i cranked up the light samples and see what it does with a brand new render (same world. new shit)
21:40 john_minetest yay!
21:40 Jordach i can't wait until i get my new tower for rendering
21:40 john_minetest But use the right textures this time ;)
21:41 Jordach john_minetest, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage​/screenshot-150214-214140.php
21:42 Jordach there's a goddamn difference :D
21:45 * Jordach is working on back to the old skool
21:50 john_minetest old school?
21:55 VanessaE no, oldskool.
21:55 VanessaE (always spelled with a 'k')
22:03 john_minetest Hmmm, didn't know that.
22:03 john_minetest I am making an oldskool game that runs in CLI atm.
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22:19 PenguinDad https://github.com/ghost best user at github :D
22:37 john_minetest http://i.minus.com/iv9cp3Yf7hB0t.gif
22:39 Jordach SCIENCE
22:39 john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/Rbs5mDi.jpg
22:39 john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/Zt8ai3h.jpg
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23:36 stormchaser3000 hi
23:36 STHGOM hullo
23:36 stormchaser3000 can anyone help me with why this won't work i can't figure it out: https://github.com/stormchaser3000/random
23:37 mrfrosty Theres alot of names on here
23:38 stormchaser3000 yeah there are lol
23:39 mrfrosty lol
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23:39 stormchaser3000 http://pastebin.com/jDtAH3Xc this is the error i get
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23:46 hoodedice Peacock
23:46 hoodedice Not here...
23:47 * hoodedice flies away
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23:51 paramat hmmmm, thanks for this http://pastebin.com/qZku8igS very useful
23:51 STHGOM !seen Peacock
23:51 MinetestBot STHGOM: peacock was last seen at 2014-02-12 06:15:14 UTC on #minetest
23:53 paramat woo long time no seen
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23:59 stormchaser3000 well paramat can you find the typo i made?

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