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02:06 Megaf VanessaE: ping
02:08 Megaf well, just to let you know, I got my server up and running again
02:09 Megaf thanks
02:12 VanessaE pong.
02:12 VanessaE oh good
02:12 Megaf VanessaE: it had 1700+ players, in a week
02:14 Megaf then I reminded that only players I grant itneract can build, so I made a list of players with interact from the auth file, and then I cp those files, so instead of having to check 1000+ players, I had to check 70+ players
02:14 Megaf then I started to copy, 6 by 6
02:14 Megaf found some bad files
02:14 Megaf but most of them were fine. And now server is back on
02:20 VanessaE that's a good idea
02:20 VanessaE I do something similar in my weekly cleanup script
02:21 VanessaE any player who hasn't gained interact after a week, their player file is deleted (the account remains, however)
02:21 VanessaE I haven't figured out the best way to handle idle account entries
02:21 VanessaE deleting them is easy
02:22 VanessaE but whether to do so and under what conditions is the hard part to figure out
02:22 Megaf just leave them
02:22 Megaf why would you delete idle accounts?
02:22 Megaf what if they get back after an year?
02:23 VanessaE idle as in dead, users who never gained interact
02:24 VanessaE signed in, said "this server sucks" or did nothing at all, signed out without reading the rules and getting interact from one of the admins
02:24 VanessaE that sorta thing
02:24 VanessaE I never delete old, previously-active accounts
02:27 Megaf ah, now I do hourly backups
02:27 Megaf using something called backintime
02:27 Megaf it uses rsync
02:27 Megaf you shout take a look at it
02:27 Megaf it has a nice gui for KDE and GNOME, and a CLI one too
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02:34 VanessaE I have a script I wrote for the purpose
02:34 VanessaE also using rsync
02:34 VanessaE I run it daily.
02:34 VanessaE rsync + tar/bzip2
02:35 VanessaE + all the other crap I do at backup time, like running the mapper and preparing the downloadable world files
02:50 iqualfragile Megaf: hourly might be a bit of an overkill
02:50 iqualfragile allso i can recommend storebackup for most usecases
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03:43 MichaelRpdx Downloadable world files?
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03:52 VanessaE yeah
03:52 VanessaE I make my map.sqlite files available for download
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04:36 fwilson ooh a bot
04:37 fwilson MinetestBot: help
04:37 fwilson !help
04:37 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
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05:10 MichaelRpdx With the seed? :)
05:11 VanessaE MichaelRpdx: nope, but I refresh the downloads periodically
05:11 VanessaE the point is they they serve as a secondary backup
05:12 VanessaE (nightly, in fact)
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05:15 iqualfragile VanessaE: in that case it might be smart to provide either an of {rsync daemon, xdiff files to latest and 2nd latest file, zsync files}
05:16 iqualfragile to reduce consumed bandwidth
05:18 * VanessaE wanders off to bed
05:27 ShadowNinja Megaf: Make sure to shut down the server or the backups will be corrupt.  (I learned this the hard way)
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09:55 john_minetest Hello everypony
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10:40 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:43 john_minetest Hey PilzAdam
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11:10 Megaf Good morning PilzAdam
11:10 Megaf ShadowNinja: What do you think is the best way to shutdown the server from a terminal?
11:11 Megaf I usually do one Ctrl + C and wait
11:11 Megaf It works fine, it says, shutting down
11:14 e1z0 shutdown -h now
11:14 Megaf e1z0: I mean, shutdown mineteset server
11:14 e1z0 pkill minetest-server
11:14 Megaf and I use GNU/Linux ;)
11:15 e1z0 i'm using hp-ux
11:15 e1z0 :(
11:15 Megaf poor guy
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11:26 PilzAdam Megaf, Ctrl + C is fine
11:28 Megaf cool
11:30 Megaf sfan5: Did you managed to run Minetest Client on your RPi?
11:30 Megaf did you manage
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12:23 Megaf why did xyz get banned from forums?
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12:28 sfan5 Megaf: no
12:28 sfan5 it gave me a ton of linking errors
12:29 Megaf hm
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12:32 PilzAdam Megaf, he isnt banned AFAIK
12:34 Megaf PilzAdam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8508
12:34 PilzAdam Megaf, https://forum.minetest.net/profi​le.php?section=about&id=2443
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12:41 Megaf PilzAdam: That's your profile page
12:41 PilzAdam you are too slow
12:41 PilzAdam I changed my title to "Also banned"
12:42 Megaf PilzAdam: oh, I see
12:42 Megaf PilzAdam: my VNC connection is too slow :P
12:43 Megaf At least its running a little faster now, under SSH
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14:15 Exio4 how do you do that
14:15 Exio4 add overhead for reduced latency
14:20 tomreyn that's a bit like asking: how do you do that: live?
14:21 harrison http://youtu.be/4aa1aQCzBy8
14:21 PenguinDad !title
14:21 MinetestBot PenguinDad: 1000 fractals on the roof - YouTube
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14:58 Megaf Exio4: I enabled ssh compression
14:58 Megaf so less data to send
14:58 Exio4 ah
14:58 Exio4 still added latency :P
14:58 Megaf latency is not a problem at all, byte per second are
14:58 Megaf in my case
14:58 Exio4 yup
14:59 Megaf Thats how I got better performance
14:59 Exio4 i would enable jpeg compression and have shitty image quality
14:59 Megaf it is like that already
14:59 Megaf but you can only do mucj when you have 100 KB/s of upload
15:01 Exio4 compressing a special compressed file isn't that "worth it"
15:01 Exio4 i wonder how less is the bw usage
15:02 Megaf make me that question a couple of hours later
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16:05 john_minetest Interesting: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/3746​989361/terrain-generation-part-1
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16:26 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O160w9CVSYs
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16:27 PilzAdam Jordach, the lags are a bit glichy
16:30 Megaf Exio4: still there?
16:31 Exio4 nope
16:33 Megaf Exio4: ok, I can't tell you VNC bw anyway
16:33 Exio4 kk
16:33 Megaf it wont show when using ssh tunnel
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16:33 Megaf Mental Note: keypad '/' doest work
16:34 john_minetest Woah, dat bass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_tqAGGdm-s
16:36 PilzAdam john_minetest, that doesnt count!
16:37 john_minetest It doesn't count.
16:37 john_minetest Remixes don't count.
16:37 PilzAdam except you sing it yourself
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16:40 john_minetest Woah, I wonder how much it would cost to get Rick Astley to work for you 24/7.  Put him in a small box on wheels on it and when you're in the mood, let him out and rickroll everybody in the room.
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17:30 Jordach i'm a fucking moron
17:30 Jordach WHY DID I UPLOAD A 39MB FILE??!
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17:45 Megaf Jordach: What are you talking about?
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17:51 puhfa is the feeling similar to the one i had when i selected a 7 minute wav as the win95 welcome sound
17:52 puhfa took 30 mins to load the wav first, computer was frozen that time
17:52 puhfa good times
17:52 rubenwardy Hi all
17:54 jujul hi im looking for a fonctional image to map converter ... anybody ?
17:56 rubenwardy More node box editor time!
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18:07 Megaf rubenwardy: whats do that node box editor does?
18:08 rubenwardy It makes models for nodes in Minetest
18:08 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840
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18:23 jujul hi im looking for a fonctional image to map converter ... anybody ?
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18:27 sfan5 jujul: it would be easiest to just write a program to convert an image to a .we schematic
18:27 sfan5 what (exactly) do you want?
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18:32 jujul yes sfan5, i would like to convert a town image map for example to a minetest mpa
18:32 jujul map
18:33 sfan5 how does the image look like? (just upload it [or a part of it if it's very big] somewhere)
18:35 Megaf rubenwardy_: That thing really looks cool
18:37 jujul sfan5 just an example : http://hpics.li/6417273
18:38 sfan5 hm
18:38 jujul and grey scale equals differents livels
18:38 jujul levels
18:38 sfan5 you would need the map without text
18:40 jujul yep without text
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18:41 jujul i have try bmpmap mod ... but a little bit bugged
18:42 Calinou already saw some image-to-map thing somewhere, by kaeza maybe
18:42 Calinou jujul, French! :D
18:42 jujul yes Calinou !
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18:44 twoelk this one ? https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=112711#p112711
18:46 rubenwardy xD     https://github.com/rubenwardy​/NodeBoxEditor/tree/nodetool
18:48 Calinou hi rubenwardy
18:48 rubenwardy Hi
18:48 rubenwardy that branch disables FPS in the window ^
18:50 Calinou thanks :)
18:51 jujul twoelk .... crash on 0.4.9
18:51 twoelk shout at kaeza ;-)
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19:04 twoelk jujul: along the lines of this: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=113893#p113893 , try using this http://www.worldpainter.net/ to import a pixelmap and then export to minetest via mcedit
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19:05 STHGOM !up 108.94.133.186:30000
19:05 MinetestBot STHGOM: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
19:05 STHGOM !up 108.94.133.186 30000
19:05 MinetestBot 108.94.133.186:30000 seems to be down
19:06 STHGOM nooooooo
19:06 jujul thx twoelk ... ;i will try right now
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19:10 STHGOM !seen like2omg
19:10 MinetestBot STHGOM: like2omg was last seen at 2013-12-27 05:10:54 UTC on #minetest
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19:10 STHGOM MinetestBot!
19:10 MinetestBot STHGOM!
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19:10 STHGOM :D
19:11 STHGOM !rainbow rainbow
19:11 MinetestBot 4r4a4i7n7b7o8w
19:22 Exio4 where is kaeza
19:22 Exio4 https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-ima​geloader/blob/master/palette.lua#L53 -- only the transparent (pink) color can be mapped to index 0 < wut why
19:22 reactor Ehlo.
19:23 reactor !rainbow Pointless features.
19:23 MinetestBot 4P4o4i7n7t7l8e8s8s3 3f3eatu6r6e6s.
19:23 Exio4 oh..
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19:25 rubenwardy Exio4, !tell kaeza <msg>
19:26 Exio4 i know
19:26 rubenwardy :P
19:26 Exio4 'm not going to spam him with useless shit anyway
19:26 Exio4 i
19:27 reactor Hi rubberwardy.
19:27 reactor How's the science?
19:28 jujul whouhou
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19:37 john_minetest what does imageloader do?
19:37 VanessaE it...loads images? ;)
19:38 VanessaE literally :P
19:38 VanessaE one node to a pixel
19:39 john_minetest so you can make pixerlart and simiar?
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20:19 rubenwardy Almost done the node tool...
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20:23 rubenwardy There we are. https://github.com/rubenwardy​/NodeBoxEditor/tree/nodetool
20:24 rubenwardy Next up: multi node support
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20:26 STHGOM !seen MilesDyson
20:26 MinetestBot STHGOM: Sorry, I haven't seen milesdyson around.
20:26 STHGOM !seen Miles Dyson
20:26 MinetestBot STHGOM: Sorry, I haven't seen miles around.
20:27 john_minetest wow
20:27 john_minetest great
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20:29 john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/hpqL7Z0.jpg
20:29 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head
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20:36 AspireMint Hello, please, in singleplayer if i place block then im "placer", but when minetest.place_node is called, who is "placer"? nil/""/minetest or who?    // placer:get_player_name()
20:36 sfan5 'singleplayer'
20:36 rubenwardy !title https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/co​mmit/e7c010a2c3d1f5ff0f30b5e1ffd9d5d5c71add0d
20:36 sfan5 also what was that above your question? why did MinetestBot go?
20:36 rubenwardy oh
20:37 sfan5 >going on a date
20:37 sfan5 well lol
20:37 rubenwardy Added support for editing multiple nodes
20:37 rubenwardy in the NodeBoxEditor
20:40 AspireMint sfan5 no :( , if(placer.get_player_name == "singleplayer") then minetest.chat_send_all("yes") else minetest.chat_send_all("no") end      It said "no"
20:40 sfan5 AspireMint: placer.get_player_name isn't singleplayer
20:40 sfan5 that is completly logical and right
20:40 rubenwardy placer.get_player_name()
20:40 rubenwardy ?
20:40 sfan5 hint: placer.get_player_name is the function placer.get_player_name() is the result of the function
20:41 sfan5 also you need to use placer:get_player_name
20:41 sfan5 foo:bar(123) is the same as foo.bar(foo, 123) but not foo.bar(123)
20:45 AspireMint yay, thank you!
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20:53 ShadowNinja ~config channel #minetest reply.whenAddressedBy.chars !~
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20:53 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
20:54 sfan5 !help
20:54 ShadowBot sfan5: help [<plugin>] [<command>]
20:54 rubenwardy ~title
20:54 ShadowBot rubenwardy: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
20:54 sfan5 ShadowNinja: that will auto-disable when MinetestBot comes back, right?
20:54 ShadowNinja sfan5: Nope.
20:55 ShadowNinja I unloaded the lobotomy plugin.  I don't have a prefix version.
20:55 sfan5 well then we need to disable it when she comes back :)
20:56 ShadowNinja sfan5: If you can't, ping me.
20:56 sfan5 !whoami
20:56 ShadowBot sfan5: I don't recognize you.
20:56 sfan5 !whoami
20:56 ShadowBot sfan5: sfan5
20:56 ShadowNinja !user hostmask list sfan5
20:56 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
20:57 ShadowNinja 'sfan5!~sfan5@minetest.ru'
20:57 ShadowNinja A cloak would be ideal for that.
20:57 sfan5 a certain person *cough* VanessaE *cough* demanded I remove my cloak to get op rights in this channel
20:58 ShadowNinja Huh.  Why?
20:58 sfan5 but it's fine like this
20:59 VanessaE ehm...that was because i couldn't be sure it was really you, you know that :P
20:59 VanessaE ain't my fault freenode is stupid about turning cloaks on/off :P
21:00 sfan5 wasn't there another way of verifying
21:00 sfan5 ?
21:01 ShadowNinja On InchraNet NickServ or HostServ has a option to disable and re-enable the cloak IIRC.
21:01 sfan5 also what did my ip addr/hostname say about whether it's me?
21:01 VanessaE at the time, no.  the cloak hid everything
21:02 sfan5 hm, ok
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21:31 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azEvfD4C6ow
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21:48 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8VTeDHjcM
21:51 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRmXmRw8rqA
21:54 ShadowNinja john_minetest: We can browse YouTube ourselves.  :-)
21:55 john_minetest ShadowNinja: I play ubuntu today
21:56 john_minetest http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rbeqbj-n1Z0/Skeak1qB​GyI/AAAAAAAAAeM/3k_ntrDWmOw/s1600-h/ubuntu.png
22:02 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, we can browse youtube ourselves, but we wont experince the same as john_minetest
22:03 john_minetest Btw: https://github.com/jmf/eternalnomad
22:03 john_minetest :D
22:14 PilzAdam john_minetest, finished it
22:14 PilzAdam the endboss is really nice
22:15 john_minetest PilzAdam: It generates a new terrain every time.
22:15 john_minetest It is nearly as good as starbound. I'd say the graphic effects are even better.
22:17 john_minetest :D
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22:33 phantombeta Hi
22:35 john_minetest hi phantombeta
22:35 phantombeta How's it going?
22:38 john_minetest my name is peeeewdipie!
22:38 john_minetest ;)
22:38 phantombeta lol
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23:13 Megaf !seen hoodedice
23:13 ShadowBot Megaf: I saw hoodedice in #minetest 2 days, 16 hours, 56 minutes, and 34 seconds ago saying "night".
23:13 tub !seen Megaf
23:13 ShadowBot tub: I saw Megaf in #minetest 27 seconds ago saying "!seen hoodedice".
23:13 Miner_48er !seen thefamilygrog66
23:13 ShadowBot Miner_48er: I saw thefamilygrog66 in #minetest 7 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, 24 minutes, and 59 seconds ago saying "No doubt".
23:13 tub !seen tub
23:13 ShadowBot tub: I saw tub in #minetest 23 seconds ago saying "!seen Megaf".
23:14 minetape !seen shadowBot
23:14 ShadowBot minetape: I haven't seen shadowBot in #minetest.
23:14 minetape liar
23:14 minetape !seen ShadowBot
23:14 ShadowBot minetape: I haven't seen ShadowBot in #minetest.
23:14 minetape still a liar
23:14 Miner_48er !seen ChanServ
23:14 ShadowBot Miner_48er: I haven't seen ChanServ in #minetest.
23:15 minetape even still a liar
23:15 john_minetest It looks if it said something
23:15 john_minetest Seems ChanServ never said anything.
23:15 tub Hahaha
23:15 tub !seen fefsefefsefrdgdrgdrgrd
23:15 ShadowBot tub: Error: 'fefsefefsefrdgdrgdrgrd' is not a valid nick.  That nick is too long for this server.
23:15 tub !seen a
23:15 ShadowBot tub: I saw a in #minetest 1 week, 0 days, 2 hours, 15 minutes, and 48 seconds ago saying "is using "a" as nick really a problem in here?".
23:16 tub hahahah
23:16 tub wtf
23:16 us_0gb ShadowBot: A what?
23:17 john_minetest !seen zeg9
23:17 ShadowBot john_minetest: I haven't seen zeg9 in #minetest.
23:17 john_minetest !seen NekoGloop
23:17 ShadowBot john_minetest: I saw NekoGloop in #minetest 1 day, 21 hours, 44 minutes, and 18 seconds ago saying "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObEA27miF6I".
23:17 Miner_48er !seen unknown
23:17 ShadowBot Miner_48er: I haven't seen unknown in #minetest.
23:17 us_0gb !seen ShadowBot
23:17 ShadowBot us_0gb: I haven't seen ShadowBot in #minetest.
23:17 us_0gb ...
23:17 john_minetest cya
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23:17 ShadowBot Miner_48er: I saw us_0gb in #minetest 15 seconds ago saying "...".
23:23 phantombeta !seen phantombeta
23:23 ShadowBot phantombeta: I saw phantombeta in #minetest 45 minutes and 22 seconds ago saying "lol".
23:23 phantombeta aw
23:24 phantombeta It didn't say that I said "!seen phantombeta"
23:25 us_0gb !seen us_0gb
23:25 ShadowBot us_0gb: I saw us_0gb in #minetest 7 minutes and 49 seconds ago saying "...".
23:25 us_0gb !seen us_0gb
23:25 ShadowBot us_0gb: I saw us_0gb in #minetest 2 seconds ago saying "!seen us_0gb".
23:25 us_0gb phantombeta: ^
23:25 Miner_48er !seen ' or 'a'='a
23:25 ShadowBot Miner_48er: Error: "'" is not a valid nick.
23:26 Miner_48er sports' or 1=1--
23:26 Miner_48er !seen sports' or 1=1--
23:26 ShadowBot Miner_48er: Error: "sports'" is not a valid nick.
23:27 us_0gb ShadowBot's nick shows up as "-ShadowBot/#minetest-" when an invalid nick is used.
23:27 us_0gb I wonder why that is.
23:28 Miner_48er !seen -ShadowBot/#minetest-
23:28 ShadowBot Miner_48er: Error: '-ShadowBot/#minetest-' is not a valid nick.
23:28 Miner_48er !seen ShadowBot/#minetest
23:28 ShadowBot Miner_48er: Error: 'ShadowBot/#minetest' is not a valid nick.
23:33 Enke joined #minetest
23:36 PilzAdam bye
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23:51 NekoGloop http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon
23:51 emery_ random crashes after 2or3 hours

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