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00:04 VanessaE they are spherical and yes, about the size of a small house
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00:05 BlockMen night everyone
00:05 VanessaE night
00:05 dafull97 nice
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00:18 dafull97 Megaf, hy
00:19 dafull97 hey*
00:20 Megaf Hi dafull97
00:20 Megaf could you connect to my RPi?
00:20 Megaf somehow it doesnt show anymore on the server list
00:21 dafull97 let me check
00:21 dafull97 nope, it isnt connecting
00:22 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.org 30001
00:22 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.org:30001 is up (407ms)
00:24 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30001
00:24 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30001 is up (427ms)
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00:24 stormchaser3000 hi
00:24 Megaf Hi there
00:24 stormchaser3000 does anyone know of a free server osting website that is not serversfree
00:25 dafull97 Megaf it is loading now
00:25 stormchaser3000 hosting*
00:25 dafull97 like for VPS?
00:25 stormchaser3000 yep
00:25 stormchaser3000 i think
00:26 dafull97 host1free
00:26 stormchaser3000 tried it
00:26 stormchaser3000 nope
00:26 dafull97 you have to be accepted
00:26 stormchaser3000 i know
00:26 dafull97 takes like 1-2weeks
00:26 stormchaser3000 oh
00:26 stormchaser3000 welll i forgot my account :(
00:27 dafull97 =/
00:27 dafull97 yea i have one, but i use it often
00:27 dafull97 i use it for irc logging right now
00:32 stormchaser3000 lol
00:33 dafull97 Megaf, the server is working
00:33 dafull97 i am on it right now
00:36 Megaf ok dafull97, thanks
00:36 Megaf dafull97, check its uptime
00:36 Megaf :)
00:37 dafull97 hmm, how i do that?
00:37 dafull97 in IRC?
00:40 Megaf dafull97, /status?
00:42 dafull97 ohh gahaha
00:42 Megaf heh, I just hot a Jabber/XMPP server running on my phone
00:43 dafull97 help
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00:50 Peacock damn, my nose is leaking more than a government contractor XD
00:55 Peacock is there a difference between...:
00:55 Peacock local vm       = minetest.get_voxel_manip(); and local vm = VoxelManip() ?
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00:59 dafull97 Peacock lol
01:24 Peacock yay, got the lvm shieldgen to work, but for some reason got a partial spawn with a radius of 100 :/ im guessing ongen did that
01:28 dafull97 idk?
01:28 Peacock damnit i sneezed on the cat lol
01:29 Peacock well hell she does it to me often enough
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01:29 dafull97 Lol, wow
01:33 Peacock damn, just noticed a problem with mapp, it doesn't know what to draw when there's just air :/
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01:44 dafull97 Megaf, still here?
01:48 Peacock how does this look for a creative inv? http://s17.postimg.org/blqwpjshb/​Screenshot_141113_08_47_28_PM.png
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02:47 Peacock i cant stop sneezing :(
02:48 dafull97 Megaf, you here?
02:50 Peacock !seen Megaf
02:50 MinetestBot Peacock: megaf was last seen at 2013-11-15 00:42:47 UTC on #minetest
02:58 ShadowNinja Peacock: No, they are identical.
02:59 Peacock thats what i thought
02:59 Peacock im not sure what was different between your code and sokomine's, but yours worked for my shield bubbles :)
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02:59 ShadowNinja Peacock: Show me soko's and I'l try to tell you. :-)
03:00 Peacock i already deleted the old function :/
03:00 Peacock but i can tell you this much: it gave me bubbles, but with part of it sliced off and further away
03:27 mrtux Any idea what this error in compilition is about? https://pastee.org/53xh9
03:27 mrtux i'm building the latest git.
03:27 Peacock recipe for target 'bin/minetest' failed
03:27 mrtux no, thats not it.
03:28 mrtux /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.8.2/../​../../libIrrlicht.a(CImageLoaderPNG.o): In function `irr::video::CImageLoaderPng::​loadImage(irr::io::IReadFile*) const':
03:28 mrtux (.text+0x271): undefined reference to `png_set_gray_1_2_4_to_8'
03:28 mrtux collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
03:28 mrtux that.
03:28 Peacock well from what i can read, both errors are recipe errors?
03:29 Peacock hm, thats not in the log you pasted to pastee
03:29 mrtux got the latest irrlicht and libpng
03:29 Peacock you might wanna ask on -dev, they'll probably know more than us here lol
03:29 mrtux okay
03:29 mrtux thanks Peacock
03:30 kahrl by default irrlicht should be built with bundled libpng, linked statically into irrlicht, so that's an error you should not see
03:30 kahrl most likely it's your distro messing with your irrlicht library
03:30 Peacock arch?
03:30 mrtux yes, arch.
03:30 Peacock thought so
03:30 Peacock using an aur helper?
03:31 mrtux yes, yaourt.
03:31 Peacock yeah, last time i used arch, the archbang maintainers told me all the aur helpers were broken in one way or another
03:31 mrtux i see
03:31 mrtux the distro makes me mad quite a lot but i still like it
03:31 ShadowNinja I'm able to build Minetest on Arch...
03:31 Peacock which is probably why you're getting the error kahrl says you shouldn't be getting
03:32 mrtux damn arch
03:32 mrtux i'd use gentoo but i'm too lazy
03:32 Peacock yeah but minetest-git is through the aur helper, unless you compile it yourself
03:32 mrtux will compile it myself
03:33 Peacock mrtux try downloading it from github and compiling it yourself, the intructions are in readme, pretty straightforward
03:33 mrtux i did it on debian before, not hard at all.
03:33 Peacock debian and arch are two completely different beasts (ive used both :P)
03:33 mrtux yes
03:34 mrtux i had a vps before so i of course had to run minetest :)
03:34 Peacock arch is good for bleeding edge, but debian is best for smooth system updates lol
03:34 mrtux indeed.
03:34 Peacock if they could join forces they'd probably produce one kick-ass distro
03:36 mrtux systemd mostly got me angry at arch (i somewhat dislike it, especially journald)
03:37 Peacock well while i like the bleeding edge for my apps, i like it less so for system critical components lol
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03:40 stormchaser3000 hi
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04:26 paramat Peacock, local vm = minetest.get_voxel_manip() and local vm = VoxelManip() are different yes, as far as i know :)
04:28 paramat the first is for on-gen use, second for post-gen
04:29 * paramat has returned from being away with the fairies
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04:31 dafull97 hey guys
04:31 dafull97 !seen kaeza
04:31 MinetestBot dafull97: kaeza was last seen at 2013-11-14 19:20:37 UTC on #minetest
04:46 paramat !seen tumbleweed
04:46 MinetestBot paramat: Sorry, I haven't seen tumbleweed around.
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05:12 us`0gb !seen a test name with spaces
05:12 MinetestBot us`0gb: Sorry, I haven't seen a around.
05:13 Peacock !seen your_mother
05:13 MinetestBot Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen your_mother around.
05:13 Peacock :(
05:14 ShadowNinja paramat: No, minetest.get_mapgen_object("voxelmanip") is the mapgen version.
05:15 paramat okay :)
05:15 Peacock i found out the hard way :p
05:16 Peacock though i'd be lying if i said i totally understood lvm too lol
05:22 paramat are there 2 core devs here who can merge a simple and tested change to floatland perlin noise defaultsettings? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1005
05:22 paramat here's proller's diff stats https://github.com/proller/minetest/compare/indev
05:23 Peacock depends how far you are from valhalla XD
05:23 paramat :) thought it was worth a try ...
05:25 paramat those new parameters are an essential 2nd part of the floatlands fix, please can they be mergerd for 0.4.8?
05:25 paramat (merged) murdered?
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05:27 Peacock not murdered, just disappeared,
05:28 Peacock to political reeducation camps XD
05:30 paramat "slipped in the shower"
05:30 Peacock fell into a gym bag and padlocked inside XD
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06:02 paramat Peacock, since we last chatted i added a 2nd perlin noise for additional smaller, closer asteroids, it was a good move http://i.imgur.com/wFSrUAn.gif
06:11 us`0gb I came up with an insane idea at work today, and I was wondering if it was too crazy to actually be interesting. WOuld anyone want sections of the map to generate nones in brownscale like an old-timey photograph? The plan would be sort of to create "retro biomes", but they would be cubic and extremely rare.
06:12 us`0gb I don't want to code that if no one is actually going to enjoy it.
06:13 Peacock sea kelp
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06:56 dafull97 kaeza here?
06:57 dafull97 !seen kaeza
06:57 MinetestBot dafull97: kaeza was last seen at 2013-11-14 19:20:37 UTC on #minetest
06:57 dafull97 =/ nope
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07:11 paramat oops just realised the new floatland perlin settings have indeed been committed by proll'r, thanks! :)
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07:16 paramat us`0gb: sepia biomes, interesting, but do code it for yourself, i would certainly enjoy the bizarre experience
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07:17 * paramat notices even the tumbleweeds are hanging out elsewhere
07:18 us`0gb Tumbleweeds for Minetest might be interesting. We could add them to the deserts with the dry shrubs.
07:18 reactor Weed?
07:19 us`0gb A sepia test code should be easy. GIMP can probably age the default images for me.
07:19 paramat custom skybox could do a sepia sky
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07:20 us`0gb Can that alter the sky in only some locations?
07:21 paramat yes its per player
07:22 paramat if player in sepia biome then player's sky = sepia
07:23 paramat tumbleweed = no need for dealers
07:23 proller paramat, next step - improve [huge] cavegen
07:24 proller or try use from v7
07:25 us`0gb Hmm. That brings up an interesting point. If sepia areas are kept track of, so the sky can be rendered, and someone moves the sepia nodes out to replace them with regular nodes, sepia skies or regular skies could seem out of place for the area.
07:28 paramat proller, i was thinking of suggesting improving the caves
07:28 proller need more shapes, flat, deep holes, etc
07:31 paramat i can come up with a good use of 3D perlin noise, how about similar shapes to my asteroid mod?
07:32 reactor You said "deep".
07:32 reactor "holes". Uhhhuhuhuhuhuh.
07:34 proller wet deep...
07:35 reactor Hhhuhuhuhuhuh hhhuhuhuhuhuh.
07:35 reactor (c) Beavis and Butthead.
07:38 paramat us`0gb: abms could slowly turn any imported nodes to sepia versions, exported sepia nodes slowly turn to normal versions ...
07:39 us`0gb Maybe .... But I like the idea of these nodes being able to be used elsewhere. Also, such an ABM would need to act on most nodes in the world, slowing the game down drastically, I would think.
07:41 us`0gb Then again, the ABM could be a sort of bleeding image effect ....
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07:44 paramat yeah i like that idea too. another nuts idea: player's sky depends on xz position and each node walked over, so with a smooth-blended sepia biome the sky would flicker blue-sepia while walking over the biome blend.
07:47 proller us`0gb, no slowing in -next with lot of slow abms..
07:47 proller you can make all abm 1s 1chance
07:48 us`0gb What exactly is "-next"? I've heard of it, but not heard what it is.
07:49 proller https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033
07:51 us`0gb So there's a pull to fix slow ABMs and it hasn't been merged? I wonder what the logic behind that is.
08:05 proller nobody needed in it
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08:07 us`0gb Nobody needed more speed? Which is why LuaJit was added?
08:07 * us`0gb is confused
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08:30 proller because minetest is engine, and nobody worry about game
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08:55 reactor OldCoder: how's it going?
08:55 reactor Any people interested in it, at all?
08:56 reactor Maybe I should just ditch the project.
08:56 reactor I really have no time to do it anymore.
08:56 dafull97 reactor, interested in what?
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09:38 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy PlayStation 4 Release Day! :-D
09:39 ruskie hehe
09:40 paramat Peacock, here it is in non-lvm form https://github.com/paramat/​asteroid/archive/master.zip your wish for small asteroids has resulted in an epic mapgen :)
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10:11 kaeza mornings
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12:07 Fadi_ Afternoon
12:08 reactor o/
12:08 reactor kaeza: mowning.
12:09 * Fadi doesn't high five reactor
12:09 reactor I didn't intend to high five you, FYI. I only wanted to wave.
12:09 reactor But whateve you're into, weirdo.
12:09 reactor s/eve/ever/
12:10 Fadi I wanted to do a pun there
12:10 reactor I understand. :)
12:10 Fadi Aren't we all weirdos in some way :P?
12:10 reactor They say, у каждого в голове свои тараканы.
12:10 kaeza english please
12:11 reactor "Everyone has different cockroaches in their head."
12:11 Fadi wait let me check google
12:11 reactor If you dind't know, cockroaches are pretty common in flat blocks in Russia. I hate them.
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12:12 Fadi btw kaeza congrats on you winning against Jordan 5 to nil
12:13 kaeza wut O.o
12:13 Fadi if you follow the world cup of course
12:13 reactor Fadi: what kind of gameplay are you into?
12:13 kaeza ah
12:13 kaeza :P
12:13 reactor I mean, in MT.
12:14 Fadi Hmm... I'm new to minetest so I can't really tell
12:14 reactor mk
12:14 Fadi actually you gave me a brilliant mod idea there
12:14 Fadi thanks
12:14 reactor ?
12:14 Fadi I'm going to try making a mod that has intense realism in it
12:15 reactor Oh. We had a guy here who wanted to do the same.
12:15 reactor You would probably like to meet him.
12:15 reactor Dan_D.
12:15 Fadi Oh I know dan
12:15 reactor Do you like making maps?
12:15 Fadi didn't see him in 3 days now and I suck at building massive giants builds
12:15 Fadi I like keeping it simple
12:16 Fadi when it comes to builds
12:16 reactor You make small maps?
12:16 Fadi I don't make maps o-O
12:16 reactor Oh.
12:16 reactor Builds, as in, sub-games?
12:16 Fadi ye
12:16 reactor Oh.
12:16 reactor I wonder if you would be interested to make a sub-game for this one:
12:16 reactor ftp://mike402.no-ip.biz:6542​1/pub/minetest/Pripyat/scr/
12:17 reactor It's the map I'm working on.
12:17 Fadi hm pripyat
12:17 reactor Well, not actively anymore.
12:17 Fadi why am I getting a STALKER feel to it
12:17 reactor I ported it from Minetest, it's someone else's map, and I improve it.
12:17 reactor Minecraft*
12:17 reactor What I improve is, replace buildings with more realistic ones.
12:17 reactor STALKER is crap.
12:18 reactor Well, it's not crap exactly, but it managed to screw up everyone's image of the city.
12:18 reactor It has little to nothing to do with the actual Pripyat.
12:20 Fadi so what are you trying to actually do
12:20 Fadi what concept are you going with
12:21 reactor I'm just making a map for the sake of it.
12:21 reactor Pripyat in its modern state.
12:21 reactor It can be used for some game, I don't know.
12:21 reactor I once thought of making it a huge DM arena.
12:21 Fadi maybe I could work on a real life mod for it?
12:22 Fadi or that
12:22 reactor Define real life.
12:22 Fadi well roleplay, banks, stuff like that
12:22 reactor Dude.
12:22 reactor Roleplay is boring as hell.
12:22 reactor And there ain't no banks in a dead city!
12:22 Fadi you said <reactor> Pripyat in its modern state.01
12:22 Fadi so I assumed that lol
12:23 Fadi oh I get what you mean now
12:23 reactor Well, it's abandoned.
12:23 reactor I have to wonder. What is your native language?
12:23 Fadi Arabic
12:23 reactor Oh.
12:23 reactor Mine is Russian.
12:24 reactor Arabic must be complicated.
12:24 reactor Is it?
12:25 Fadi Not for me
12:25 reactor Mk.
12:25 Fadi brb
12:25 reactor Take your time, I'll be back in an hout.
12:25 reactor s/hout/hour/
12:31 sfan5 hi everyone
12:32 iqualfragile moin sfan5
12:33 iqualfragile they have messed up the linux pkgbuild in archlinux -.-
12:33 iqualfragile the LINUX pkgbuild!
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12:58 artur99 hi
12:58 artur99 which is the actually meanning of Fancy Tree?
12:58 Fadi back
13:07 artur99 hi
13:07 artur99 what is the smooth lighting in the settings?
13:08 Fadi it adds smooth lightning, so the lights look better from the object they emit from
13:08 Fadi at least that's what I think it does
13:09 artur99 ok, thanks
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13:15 artur99 but what mip-mapping does/?
13:15 Fadi I have no clue about that lol
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13:17 artur99 but Anisotropic filter ?
13:18 Fadi smoothens the textures and the edges
13:18 iqualfragile artur99: fancy trees: leaves are partly transparent; smooth lightning: instead of every block having one brightness value it has some kind of gradient calculated from surrounding blocks
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13:19 artur99 Thnaks
13:19 artur99 *Thanks
13:19 iqualfragile mip-mapping&anisotropic filtering: go use wikipedia
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13:20 artur99 :) ok, thanks
13:21 EvergreenTree The way I run minetest is by compiling a run in place build, and making a .desktop file for it, which goes to .local/share/applications
13:21 EvergreenTree Does anyone else do it that way?
13:21 iqualfragile EvergreenTree: nope, aur has minetest-git
13:22 EvergreenTree iqualfragile, I do to
13:22 iqualfragile ?
13:22 kaeza I always have a terminal open on ~/src/minetest
13:22 Fadi groups = {cracky=2} cracky is for how hard it can be broken?
13:22 kaeza so it's just bin/minetest for me
13:23 iqualfragile i do not run minetest the way you do because archlinux has an minetest-git package
13:23 EvergreenTree Okay, I compile the latest git, (with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1), and make a .desktop file linking to the executable
13:23 iqualfragile so i just install& update that
13:23 EvergreenTree Yes, I suppose that's easier, but I do it this way
13:23 iqualfragile it is a propper system wide install complete with system wide .desktop files and stuff
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13:29 iqualfragile any russians arround?
13:29 reactor ?
13:29 reactor I am from Russia. I think I am able to help you.
13:30 reactor Please state your problem.
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13:39 OldCoder Hi
13:39 OldCoder reactor, iqualfragile haven't you two met yet?
13:39 iqualfragile we have
13:39 reactor We haven't.
13:40 reactor I don't remember. I think I need to look up the logs.
13:40 OldCoder Just curious
13:40 OldCoder You are both active
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13:40 reactor I am passive-aggressive.
13:40 iqualfragile we were talking about operating systems
13:40 OldCoder reactor, do you consider Pripyat stable at this time?
13:40 reactor OldCoder: Yes.
13:40 OldCoder Passive Agressive Operating System
13:40 OldCoder PAOS
13:40 reactor OldCoder: some falling gravel need be cleaned in the corner, though.
13:40 OldCoder reactor, how it was going was that I was asleep :-)
13:41 reactor I'm fine.
13:41 OldCoder reactor, can you explain what to do to somebody who is interested?
13:41 reactor I've been doing some datahousekeeping.
13:41 reactor s/aho/a ho/
13:41 reactor And the Pripyat materials got moved a little.
13:41 OldCoder I wish to back-up the world before people start building
13:41 reactor Yes.
13:41 reactor I need better buildings.
13:41 OldCoder Well, advise people if you can, thanks
13:41 OldCoder They are good for a start
13:42 OldCoder If there is falling gravel let me know if anything is needed
13:42 reactor I mean, realistic buildings. Google and Yandex maps should be used as reference for their dimensions.
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13:42 reactor Photos should be, as well.
13:42 reactor I will look at the worledit schemes provided of them, finish details, and incorporate them in the map.
13:42 reactor Easy like that.
13:42 OldCoder That is an interesting way to do it
13:43 OldCoder I am headed to work and will sign on there
13:43 reactor See you there.
13:58 artur99 if i see for example Creating client...   on translate.minetest.ru  i must translate ... as simple ...  or i have to insert them with "insert horisonntal ellipses" ?
14:01 kaeza whichever is used on your language, generally "..." (three dots)
14:02 artur99 ok, thanks
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14:31 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:32 iqualfragile moin PilzAdam
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14:37 artur99 what is "use" ?
14:37 artur99 "Use" = climb down
14:37 artur99 but what it means?
14:38 PilzAdam Use is the E key
14:39 artur99 and why it is called use ?
14:40 PilzAdam nobody knows
14:41 PilzAdam you can call it auxiliary key
14:41 PilzAdam kaeza, http://irc.minetest.ru/minet​est-dev/2013-11-09#i_3424437 https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=118145#p118145 <- you lied to me :-(
14:42 kaeza PilzAdam, aww
14:42 kaeza it was not even a public API anyway
14:42 kaeza (the functions were public but documented nowhere)
14:43 PilzAdam the "API" of minetest_game isnt documented anyway
14:44 kaeza okay
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14:45 kaeza how about you document those then?
14:46 * PilzAdam hides
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15:06 Fadi sup
15:08 Fadi so my texturing abilities are limited and I know a fairly decent amount of lua, what do you guys suggest as a mod idea
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15:22 Fadi hey why does the lua_api in the minetest directory have more examples than the wiki
15:22 Fadi someone fix that please :p
15:28 kaeza The definitive reference is always lua_api.txt
15:30 Fadi rules_a=
15:30 Fadi what are the rules for
15:31 kaeza no idea; never used L-systems :P
15:31 Fadi axiom=?
15:32 Fadi did anyone work with thoses here?
15:32 Fadi those*
15:36 harrison l-systems is probably a good idea for you
15:36 harrison you can make trees
15:44 artur99 who can tell me a good minetest server?
15:44 reactor I don't know.
15:44 harrison VanessaE's creative server is nice
15:46 artur99 can you  tell me the adress/port ?
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15:47 kahrl Fadi: have you seen http://dev.minetest.net/treegen?
15:49 harrison artur99: the client knows it already
15:49 artur99 ok, thanks
15:50 artur99 i can only see the survival one
15:50 artur99 oh, fownd it
15:50 artur99 thanks
15:53 artur99 where can i find a cheap private server?
15:55 Fadi o I didn't, thanks kahrl
15:57 artur99 what e key does?
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15:59 EvergreenTree Jordach, o/
15:59 Jordach EvergreenTree, o/
15:59 Fadi Fadi, o/
16:21 artur99 what e key does?
16:22 kaeza run if you have "fast" privilege, and can also act as "descend"
16:25 artur99 but any other use?
16:25 artur99 or only that
16:25 artur99 ?
16:26 kaeza only that
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16:57 artur99 minetest run on 128 MB ram?
16:57 artur99 i mean a server
17:00 Sokomine anyone speaking french?
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17:03 artur99 je ne parle pas francais.. Excuse moi!
17:03 artur99 :)
17:04 Sokomine no, don't worry :-) i do still understand some french, but i want to say something in that language - and my vocabulary is just too rusted :-(
17:04 artur99 8 years of learning francais at school, but idk francais, only a few
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17:05 artur99 and 5 of learning english
17:05 artur99 and it's much better than francais
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17:05 john_minetest Hello everykitten
17:06 Sokomine same here, artur
17:06 ShadowNinja artur99: Maybe, it depends how many mods you use.
17:06 Sokomine ah, well, more english here than french :-)
17:07 * Sokomine installs a mod for speaking french in her brain but fails
17:08 artur99 but how many users can i accept?
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17:09 Sokomine 128 mb isn't much
17:09 kaeza artur99, my server has 128MB of RAM and a few mods; I've seen up to 8 or 9 players at once with moderate lag
17:09 Sokomine (for today's standards)
17:10 artur99 moderate lad=bad or good?
17:10 artur99 :D
17:10 kaeza tends to have low latency
17:11 kaeza except when it randomly locks up or gets killed by OOM ;_;
17:11 artur99 but i thhink 300 will be enought
17:12 kaeza !up kaeza.mooo.com
17:12 MinetestBot kaeza.mooo.com:30000 is up (329ms)
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17:24 Jordach 128mb of ram is good enough to run MG and mobs
17:24 * Jordach has done so before
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17:28 artur99 so, using a VPS with linux i can host a minetest server?
17:32 john_minetest yes.
17:32 john_minetest Should also be possible on windows.
17:32 artur99 15 pounds would be ok> http://my.iperweb.com/cart/low-end-vps/&amp;step=0 ?
17:33 reactor john_minetest: o/
17:36 Jordach reactor, o/
17:37 john_minetest artur99: Those don't look very good
17:37 john_minetest Singlecore...
17:38 artur99 why?
17:39 reactor Jordach: o/
17:39 john_minetest singlecore for a server... I don't know if it is good to have so little power.
17:39 john_minetest A few more users and you are down.
17:40 artur99 but what a core is/
17:40 artur99 ?
17:40 artur99 :)
17:40 artur99 processoor
17:40 artur99 *processor?
17:41 john_minetest It is a virtual processor.
17:41 john_minetest Also the ram seems a bit low. Since the mods are server-side, 0.5 GB should be minimum
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17:44 Fadi so I'm planning to make specific gui's for my mod, how hard is it going to be?
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17:47 iqualfragile Fadi: not too hard
17:48 Fadi well can you give me something about it
17:48 Fadi like a small example
17:48 Fadi would be nice :p
17:48 iqualfragile no, i cant, i am just the hüter der meere
17:49 Fadi Keeper of the seas
17:49 * Fadi understands German perfectly
17:49 iqualfragile *slowclap*
17:49 khonkhortisan *fasterclap*
17:50 iqualfragile *fastestfap*
17:50 Fadi If you didn't know, I'm an Arab so that's quite an achievement for me tbh
17:50 iqualfragile complete list of languages i am fluent in: http://translate.google.de/
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17:50 Fadi So you think I translated it using google?
17:51 iqualfragile maybe
17:51 Fadi It would have taken me more time to respond to that though
17:51 iqualfragile if you do in fact understand german perfectly then answer quickly: what is the difference between hirte und hüter
17:51 Fadi hirte is in plural
17:52 Fadi I think
17:52 Fadi no no
17:52 iqualfragile nope
17:52 Fadi actually not
17:52 Fadi hm
17:52 Fadi Give me something easier
17:52 Fadi I never used the word hirte
17:52 artur99 how to make a printscreen
17:53 Fadi You mean screenshot inside the game?
17:53 khonkhortisan I'm not as nachdenken as you betrunken I am
17:53 iqualfragile artur99: wtf? just press print on your keyboard
17:53 iqualfragile khonkhortisan: that did not make any sense
17:53 artur99 P ?
17:53 Fadi That's just a massive clunk of words khonkhortisan
17:53 iqualfragile i am not as thoughtfull as you drunk i am
17:53 Fadi I'm not as thinking as you drunk I am
17:53 khonkhortisan aw I got the wrong form
17:53 artur99 minecraft has a hotkey for screeenshoot
17:53 artur99 ?
17:53 Fadi it's minetest
17:53 Fadi and it's F12
17:53 iqualfragile artur99: minetest has too
17:53 Fadi you'll find the ss in the bin folder
17:54 iqualfragile Fadi: search for "formspec" for guis in minetest
17:54 khonkhortisan I meant "I'm not as think as you drunk I am"
17:54 Fadi oh thanks
17:54 iqualfragile that does not make sense either
17:54 khonkhortisan "I'm not as drunk as you think I am" with think and drunk switched
17:55 iqualfragile ah, ok
17:55 Fadi I hate making textures, someone make a texture generator
17:55 Fadi thanks*
17:55 Fadi -*
17:55 iqualfragile Fadi: that is not possible
17:55 iqualfragile well, at least not fully automatic
17:56 Fadi I think it can be made as a plugin for photoshop
17:56 iqualfragile uhgh, photoshop
17:56 Fadi I use Paint.net to make textures
17:56 Fadi so lel
17:56 iqualfragile Fadi: why do you speak german (or are at least able to read it?)
17:56 Fadi I grew up watching German tv thanks to my brother
17:56 khonkhortisan I use gimp
17:56 iqualfragile Fadi: try gimp, there are some plugins which might help you create textures
17:57 Fadi what plugins :o
17:57 iqualfragile namely resynthesizer and all its noise generators
17:57 Fadi hm
17:57 iqualfragile german tv? its not that great, is it?
17:57 Fadi well pokemon on rtl2 was fun
17:57 Fadi also yu-gi-oh
17:58 iqualfragile ah, ok, but those are no german shows
17:58 iqualfragile every german show i know is boring as hell
17:58 Sokomine iqualfragile: you did ask him a difficult question there. given what some germans write on message boards, i'm not sure all younger people would get it right
17:58 Fadi ye not german shows ofc
17:58 iqualfragile Sokomine: you mean that hirte vs hüter thing?
17:58 Fadi but tv series and cartoons translated to it
17:59 iqualfragile yes, it was mainly because i meant to write hirte der meere instead of hüter der meere earlier
17:59 Sokomine typical german shows would be something like lindenstrasse or schwarzwaldklinik
17:59 iqualfragile oh dear
17:59 iqualfragile horrible horrible things
17:59 Sokomine today, some shows (especially cheap amerian ones) manage to be even worse than those
17:59 iqualfragile or mord mit aussicht
18:00 iqualfragile which is no _that_ bad
18:00 iqualfragile and tatort, how could we forget tatort
18:00 Fadi I've been seeing this show pop up about  private detectives
18:00 Fadi like helping girlfriends find out what their boyfriends are up to
18:00 Fadi it's 100% scripted
18:00 Sokomine iqualfragile: yes. hirten are not exactly something people today are familiar with. when i was younger, there where still some sheep herds visiting the meadows around, but that has stopped some time ago
18:01 Fadi hirtens means herds
18:01 iqualfragile Sokomine: yes, but they should know the word
18:01 Fadi ?
18:01 Sokomine hueter...today, that may occour more in games or fantasy movies/books than irl
18:01 Fadi it popped up in my mind but I thought you were tryign to trick me
18:01 Fadi lol
18:01 Fadi trying*
18:01 Sokomine aah. ok :-)
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18:02 * Sokomine watches as some oceans gather around iqualfragile and follow him :-)
18:02 iqualfragile btw Sokomine, do you get notified when your name is mentioned in irc? because it seems to me that you do not
18:02 Fadi Pshhh he's not poseidon
18:02 Fadi :p
18:02 Sokomine ah, yes, tatort. but it's not as bad as lindenstrasse. no special need to flee if you see tatort on tv...just another crime story...
18:03 Fadi there's this show too about these guys in ibiza
18:03 Fadi by guys I mean boyfriends and their girls
18:03 iqualfragile yes, horrible stuff
18:04 iqualfragile we call it assitv here for a reason
18:04 Fadi do they still air two and a half men on Prosieben?
18:04 Sokomine iqualfragile: for a long time i did not get notified at all. now, with a more capable irc client, my name is written in bold, and if someone says it, that persons name gets written in yellow
18:04 iqualfragile Fadi: yes they do
18:04 Fadi o
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18:04 Sokomine plus "windows" not currently active get a red number if someone said my name there
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18:04 Fadi on tuesday night?
18:04 Fadi or was it thursday
18:05 Sokomine fadi: you watch too much bad tv
18:05 iqualfragile Sokomine: ah, wonderfull, i tried to reach you a few times and you just did not respond at all
18:05 Fadi I don't watch them, my brother just takes over the remote and watches those
18:05 iqualfragile Fadi: i do not know, i dont even own a tv
18:05 Fadi I stay for like 5 mins hoping he'd change then I go
18:05 Sokomine that's quite possible. i've changed to this new client pretty recently. new connections are now opened in new windows
18:06 Fadi "new windows"
18:06 Fadi Hope you're not using windows 8
18:06 Sokomine kind of, yes. it's called new window. of course everything happens in one terminal
18:06 Sokomine certainly not!
18:07 Sokomine it's only a virtual window. another screen i have to switch to if i want to see what's going on
18:07 Fadi oh
18:07 Sokomine the irc client is called irssi
18:07 khonkhortisan I use vertical tabs along the left side of both my irc client and web browser. I have yet to find this for a terminal.
18:07 Sokomine before, i had ircii. that one mixed everything together (which was pretty often confusing)
18:08 Fadi irssi ew
18:09 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Quassel. :-) Or weechat if you want a ncurses interface.
18:09 iqualfragile khonkhortisan: vertical tabs?
18:09 iqualfragile qussel ftw
18:09 iqualfragile quassel
18:09 khonkhortisan I'm stuck with xchat now that I have an all channels tab plugin
18:09 Sokomine i like ncurses based programs
18:10 Sokomine what would be the advantage of quassel?
18:10 Fadi I like nurses too
18:10 * Fadi walks away
18:10 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/dT57rIR
18:11 Fadi somehow what you linked there john_minetest makes me want to play monopoly
18:12 khonkhortisan it's the monopoly house hammer in the comments
18:12 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Being able to see thinks like ^ just by hovering, dynamic backlog fetching, all the advantages of bouncers...
18:12 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: You mean like quasel's "Chat monitor"? :-)
18:12 iqualfragile Sokomine: i have no idea, unlimited scrollback maybee? seperated client and server?
18:13 Sokomine irssi keeps logs as well. those are usually the best if a search is required
18:13 iqualfragile http://soundcloud.com/samsastraum/hirte-der-meere
18:13 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/1A2BvoE
18:13 ShadowNinja I can just scroll up and see backlog from 6 months ago.
18:13 Fadi hey hey
18:13 Fadi let's discuss politics
18:13 ShadowNinja Sokomine: SQL > TXT
18:14 iqualfragile Fadi: ok
18:14 Sokomine want a few surplus german politicians? they're for sale
18:14 iqualfragile politics is an ugly bitch
18:14 iqualfragile done
18:14 Fadi So Egypt bought guns from Russia
18:14 Fadi and the US is butthurt about it
18:14 Fadi discuss
18:14 PilzAdam Jordach, ping
18:14 iqualfragile i am buthurt about it
18:14 Fadi thought we were going to discuss it for real
18:15 Fadi :|
18:15 iqualfragile usualy all those "kriesengebiete" buy weapons in germany!!
18:15 PilzAdam Jordach, https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest/commits/model can you make a server with that?
18:15 Fadi Not since the NSA scandal
18:15 Sokomine ah, well, that may be difficult. opinions may vary?
18:15 * Sokomine nods to iqualfragile
18:15 PilzAdam Jordach, it has a new model (made by me :D) and coded animation!
18:15 Fadi and they are not kiresengebiete ;-;
18:15 Sokomine we seem to export lots of weapons and war materials :-( nothing to be proud of i think
18:15 Fadi it's just the US/EU Trained terrorists!
18:15 PilzAdam Jordach, that is 13 KiB model + better animation than in minetest_game
18:15 Sokomine hi pilzadam
18:16 Fadi Going over to the #conspiracy channel, anyone going to join me?
18:16 iqualfragile nope
18:16 Fadi aw
18:16 iqualfragile no time for internet discussions
18:16 Fadi I'm multi tasking
18:16 Fadi try it, really eats up your time and you won't get anything done
18:16 ShadowNinja Fadi: Sounds like a incorrectly namespaced channel.
18:17 iqualfragile ##conspiracy would be correct
18:17 iqualfragile hi PilzAdam get merging!
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18:18 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: -> -dev?
18:18 PilzAdam Im working on Pilztest currently
18:19 Fadi I've seen people add "default" as a dependency in their mods, is that really needed?
18:19 Warr1024 for load order, yes
18:19 Fadi o
18:19 Warr1024 i.e. if something in your mod depends on something in default having already been defined.
18:19 Fadi shit
18:20 ShadowNinja Fadi: One if you need something like "default.node_sounds_*_default()".
18:20 ShadowNinja Only*
18:20 Fadi oh
18:20 Fadi good then
18:20 Fadi actually that's bad, very bad
18:20 Fadi been doing some things wrongly
18:20 khonkhortisan ShadowNinja, I can't find a screenshot of that
18:23 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: http://imgur.com/54HhL2m
18:23 kahrl Fadi: I suppose it would also fix your problems with crafting
18:23 khonkhortisan which part is the chat monitor?
18:23 khonkhortisan the top?
18:24 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Yes.
18:24 khonkhortisan When you change channels, it stays there? That's more useful than my separate tab.
18:25 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: It (And most other GUI elements) is movable and resizable too. And yes, it stays there.
18:25 Fadi I fixed my crafting issues a while ago, it's just the special furnace that doesn't really work like I want it to
18:25 Fadi and I bugged trillian again
18:27 khonkhortisan this link is broken
18:27 Fadi and fixed
18:27 Fadi lol
18:29 Fadi minetest.register_alias do I need to use that in the mapgen for ores or not?
18:29 PilzAdam not for ores, no
18:30 PilzAdam ores are placed via minetest.register_ore()
18:30 iqualfragile i never understood why there are mapgen-specific materials
18:30 Fadi that's why my stuff wasn't spawning
18:30 Fadi thanks
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18:41 Fadi how can you spawn particles
18:41 Fadi like I want to create my own particle effects
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18:44 ShadowNinja Fadi: See minetest.add_particle and minetest.add_particlespawner
18:44 sfan5 hi everyone
18:44 ShadowNinja Hello sfan5.
18:44 Fadi thank you
18:48 Fadi did anyone try yet to create his own version of thaumcraft in minetest?
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18:51 ShadowNinja Fadi: Not that I know of.
18:51 Fadi Good :p
18:54 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Like it? :-)
18:54 khonkhortisan yeah
18:56 Jordach Pilzy, late
18:56 Jordach r*
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18:56 khonkhortisan it works differently, being on a channel on a network is the same as it being a  "favourite channel"
18:58 issa2013 hellllo
18:58 issa2013 it's time
18:58 issa2013 to play minetest nighty build :)
18:58 iqualfragile Jordach: "Pilzy"?
19:01 khonkhortisan Someday I may change to another irc client, but it'll have to do more than quassel
19:03 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Are you using a seperate core?
19:03 khonkhortisan core?
19:03 khonkhortisan I'm still migrating settings from xchat
19:04 reactor "seperate"
19:04 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Quassel has two distinct parts, the core and the client, like a bouncer and a client. There is a client with both integrated into one though.
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19:05 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Did you get that?
19:05 khonkhortisan That disconnect button is so big! and right under Settings
19:05 khonkhortisan yes
19:07 * khonkhortisan hides the toolbar
19:08 artur99 what Print Stacks does?
19:09 khonkhortisan spellcheck overrides underline
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19:15 iqualfragile reactor: seperate.
19:18 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Pass a errfunc to lua_pcall to get a traceback 371b39a09a 2013-11-15T11:13:31-08:00 http://git.io/f5ThDw
19:29 reactor iqualfragile: ?
19:29 iqualfragile [20:04:32] <reactor> "seperate"
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19:42 EvergreenTree Lol, this is perfect:  http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1​355/1388377109_31a68b924a_o.jpg
19:42 EvergreenTree I found it reposted on a certain person's g+ page
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19:46 Jordach EvergreenTree, lol
19:47 Jordach EvergreenTree, let's GO!
19:55 iqualfragile EvergreenTree: hmm… more like may the bash be with you
19:55 iqualfragile VanessaE: interact plz
19:58 iqualfragile VanessaE: please use http to distribute media, its like a milion times faster
20:01 Sokomine oh. netsplit?
20:04 iqualfragile Sokomine: yes, looks like it
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20:20 PilzAdam what the fuck Irrlicht?
20:20 PilzAdam my model + coded animation are exactly 180° rotated in Irrlicht 1.7 compared to 1.8
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20:21 Calinou import in blender, R-Z-180, save, export, ???, profit
20:21 Calinou :p
20:22 PilzAdam but I dont know the Irrlicht version of the clients
20:26 PilzAdam Calinou, animation done in the code do 1) look a lot better than the ones saved in the model and 2) save about 90% filesize
20:26 PilzAdam pilztest has that now: https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest/commi​t/77d9ce6147f9add4928f61f2a060d9bb91b49a1d
20:27 Calinou O_o
20:27 Calinou is it smoothed?
20:27 PilzAdam well, its all done on the server, soooo....
20:27 reactor Smooth.
20:27 reactor As in. "Damn, we're smooth!"
20:28 PilzAdam but it is "smoothed" as in the bones dont just "jump" arround as they do in the animations in mt_game
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20:29 VanessaE iqualfragile: http/remote media is busted until kahrl's http_fetch goes in.
20:30 Calinou downloading your game :P
20:31 Calinou std::bad_alloc
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20:43 iqualfragile VanessaE: it is? why?
20:43 VanessaE the client fails to download textures randomly
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20:44 VanessaE or it downloads them in some way that causes the occasional texture or model to not actually be stored and processed correctly.
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20:56 PilzAdam Jordach, is it "later" yet? ;-)
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21:07 Jordach PilzAdam, no
21:08 PilzAdam :-/
21:08 Jordach 1) Major headache
21:08 Jordach 2) busy
21:10 VanessaE EvergreenTree: you missed some conversion abms for quartz mod (for old horizontal objects -> 6d-capable regular ones)
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21:23 EvergreenTree VanessaE, I know.
21:23 EvergreenTree I don't know how to do it though
21:23 VanessaE ok
21:23 VanessaE borrow the code from moreblocks :)
21:24 EvergreenTree Where in the moreblocks code?
21:24 john_minetest Lol, I got to make a presentation of the social aspects of free software.
21:24 VanessaE EvergreenTree: use this:  https://github.com/Calinou/moreblock​s/blob/master/stairsplus_convert.lua
21:25 VanessaE but tweak it for your needs of course
21:27 EvergreenTree I can't really test it though.   :S
21:27 VanessaE sure you can, it's easy
21:28 VanessaE just make a map using the pre-6d-facedir version, build as many variations of the quartz objects as you can.  Exit, make a backup of that map - you will be restoring from that backup several times.
21:28 VanessaE then re-update to the current version, apply the conversion code, tweak it, and let it loose on the map
21:28 VanessaE if it doesn't work, exit from the game, restore from the backup, tweak and tune the code, and try again
21:28 VanessaE that's how I did it with moreblocks.  took dozens of tries before I had ot right
21:29 VanessaE it*
21:29 VanessaE moreblocks' current conversion code is more complex than my original routine though.
21:34 Jordach john_minetest, lucky. fuck.
21:40 john_minetest Jordach: It is actually about visual presentation but we had to choose a random topic.
21:40 john_minetest So I just said "Free software" and the first thing he said was "There was his guy" and I was like "Stallman" and he was like "No, the other one".
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21:47 EvergreenTree VanessaE, I think I've got it
21:47 EvergreenTree I'm not sure why I can't craft quartz blocks on your server though.   :S
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21:49 EvergreenTree Whoops, I see why
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21:51 john_minetest I should write a completely proprietary OS. Just to annoy stallman.
22:06 Calinou night
22:07 STHGOM day
22:08 Calinou dight
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22:09 STHGOM :D
22:11 STHGOM bye
22:12 iqualfragile flügel der freiheit
22:14 john_minetest die luft der freiheit weht
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23:04 iqualfragile oh man, i am that close to dying from laughter http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1384540830490.jpg
23:10 NekoGloop tl;dr
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23:14 iqualfragile NekoGloop: do it, you wont regrett it
23:18 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head  :3:3
23:18 * NekoGloop dies from the weight
23:21 john_minetest it is a samll kitten
23:21 john_minetest *small
23:22 john_minetest it doesn't weight much :3
23:22 harrison they all begin that way
23:22 harrison but how much will it grow?
23:22 harrison that's the important thing
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23:25 PilzAdam Taoki, Im having troubles attaching entities to bones of my player model
23:25 PilzAdam it seems like the server has the right position of the entity (checked that with a print() in the Lua code) but they are invisible in the client
23:25 john_minetest harrison: Well, I don't think that a tiny kitten can kill NekoGloop by growing within 3 minutes.
23:26 john_minetest Except he is allergic.
23:26 harrison that seems reasonable.
23:26 NekoGloop no it's just that i'm a lil kitteh
23:27 john_minetest not as little as the kitten on your head.
23:28 harrison http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/n​ews/cyber-activist-jeremy-hammond-sent​enced-to-10-years-in-prison-20131115
23:28 harrison judge preska wielded a remorseless gavel today
23:29 john_minetest Hacker hacks security company -> Gets in prison and is supervised forever
23:29 harrison oh, he was supervised before
23:29 john_minetest NSA hacks every company -> Awarded for helping their county
23:29 john_minetest *country
23:30 harrison well, he's a personal enemy of mine, so i am relieved that he is a guest of the fedgov
23:30 john_minetest srsly, the biggest gangsters are sitting in the secret services
23:30 harrison oh, i am not rooting for "the system"
23:31 harrison but there isn't just one anti-system position
23:31 PilzAdam Taoki, oh, and btw: set_bone_position() works fine with Irrlicht 1.8 and .b3d
23:31 harrison although jeremy's side tries to pretend so
23:31 PilzAdam Taoki, I get better animations than the model in mt_game with only 10% of the filesize
23:32 harrison john_minetest: did you see the recent film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI4IYRT-Msw ? in the last few days humdreds of views flooded in
23:32 harrison i am trying to find out from where
23:32 Taoki PilzAdam: b3d is a better choice then. I liked x cuz it's a text format, and supported natively in Blender. But b3d is good too
23:32 Taoki Glad it works now
23:33 john_minetest harrison: I didn't say this guy is right, I only say that the gouvernment is wrong
23:33 PilzAdam Taoki, do you have any ideas or hints about the attachment to bones?
23:33 harrison oh, but he actually works for the same side as the gov't
23:33 Taoki PilzAdam: Just that it uses an Irrlicht function too. Origin and rotation become relative to the bone also
23:33 harrison that is the harsh truth
23:34 harrison he's a leftist
23:35 harrison aha, youtube analytics shows me that 4chan.org sent me 71 views!
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23:36 iqualfragile ah, while we are at animations and therefore models and therefore entities and therefore pullrequest 1000
23:36 john_minetest harrison: Your films are always strange. It is a tech demo with drug music and speech quality like somebody sitting in a wardrobe.
23:36 harrison thank you!
23:36 iqualfragile does that fix entities getting out of sync on clients?
23:36 iqualfragile if it does: please fix
23:37 harrison for the next film i may use this as a soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSTx31dxmgA
23:37 iqualfragile s/fix/merge
23:38 john_minetest harrison: It is really hard to listen to the explanations when there is always some "talking noise" in the background.
23:38 harrison that is a feature
23:39 harrison the films are not meant to be like khan academy lol
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23:40 john_minetest harrison: Why don't you just take a calm piano soundtrack? Or at least some without lyrics?
23:40 harrison i can't please everyone, so i am forced to please myself
23:41 harrison it is a hard way to live
23:41 harrison but someone has to do it
23:41 harrison but i am sure there is one with a piano
23:41 harrison i have made several hundred
23:42 john_minetest harrison: What do you want to express with those videos? Do you want to tell something or is it just art?
23:43 harrison very clearly and obviously i am showing off and explaining the realtime fractal-voxel raytracer that i have coded as you very well know
23:44 harrison and clearly you are attempting to troll me
23:44 harrison not very well tho
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23:46 john_minetest I don't want to troll you.
23:47 harrison good
23:47 john_minetest I only wasn't sure if you intentionally use those background sounds and trippy music which makes the voice kinda hard to understand.
23:47 harrison yes, intentionally is a good word for it
23:48 harrison it is in my nature
23:49 PilzAdam lol, 14.5 MiB of failed .blend files just to produce one working .b3d file which is 13 KiB
23:49 john_minetest I think realtime fractal-voxel raytracing is really interesting but when I am not able to follow the speech, I can't learn anything. This isn't meant to be trolling or hurting. It is just constructive critic how you could improve the videos so they are more easily understood.
23:52 harrison you remind me of a girl i met once who tried to give me the dutch-uncle speech about my personality and how i "related to others" -- it was hella amusing, because she was gauche herself, but didn't know it.
23:52 john_minetest lol
23:53 john_minetest it is 1:00 am soon. I have to get out early tomorrow.
23:53 john_minetest cya
23:53 harrison perhaps you should create something new yourself instead of constructively criticizing
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23:55 iqualfragile nah, we like giving and recieving constructive criticism
23:55 iqualfragile what do you try to archive throught those videos?
23:56 harrison The verb is mysterious and the preposition misspelled
23:56 harrison i cannot understand your question
23:58 iqualfragile what efect do you want these videos to have
23:59 iqualfragile what are you making these videos for
23:59 iqualfragile why do you make those videos
23:59 iqualfragile what do you want people watching those videos to see

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