Time Nick Message 00:04 VanessaE they are spherical and yes, about the size of a small house 00:05 BlockMen night everyone 00:05 VanessaE night 00:05 dafull97 nice 00:18 dafull97 Megaf, hy 00:19 dafull97 hey* 00:20 Megaf Hi dafull97 00:20 Megaf could you connect to my RPi? 00:20 Megaf somehow it doesnt show anymore on the server list 00:21 dafull97 let me check 00:21 dafull97 nope, it isnt connecting 00:22 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.org 30001 00:22 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.org:30001 is up (407ms) 00:24 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30001 00:24 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30001 is up (427ms) 00:24 stormchaser3000 hi 00:24 Megaf Hi there 00:24 stormchaser3000 does anyone know of a free server osting website that is not serversfree 00:25 dafull97 Megaf it is loading now 00:25 stormchaser3000 hosting* 00:25 dafull97 like for VPS? 00:25 stormchaser3000 yep 00:25 stormchaser3000 i think 00:26 dafull97 host1free 00:26 stormchaser3000 tried it 00:26 stormchaser3000 nope 00:26 dafull97 you have to be accepted 00:26 stormchaser3000 i know 00:26 dafull97 takes like 1-2weeks 00:26 stormchaser3000 oh 00:26 stormchaser3000 welll i forgot my account :( 00:27 dafull97 =/ 00:27 dafull97 yea i have one, but i use it often 00:27 dafull97 i use it for irc logging right now 00:32 stormchaser3000 lol 00:33 dafull97 Megaf, the server is working 00:33 dafull97 i am on it right now 00:36 Megaf ok dafull97, thanks 00:36 Megaf dafull97, check its uptime 00:36 Megaf :) 00:37 dafull97 hmm, how i do that? 00:37 dafull97 in IRC? 00:40 Megaf dafull97, /status? 00:42 dafull97 ohh gahaha 00:42 Megaf heh, I just hot a Jabber/XMPP server running on my phone 00:43 dafull97 help 00:50 Peacock damn, my nose is leaking more than a government contractor XD 00:55 Peacock is there a difference between...: 00:55 Peacock local vm = minetest.get_voxel_manip(); and local vm = VoxelManip() ? 00:59 dafull97 Peacock lol 01:24 Peacock yay, got the lvm shieldgen to work, but for some reason got a partial spawn with a radius of 100 :/ im guessing ongen did that 01:28 dafull97 idk? 01:28 Peacock damnit i sneezed on the cat lol 01:29 Peacock well hell she does it to me often enough 01:29 dafull97 Lol, wow 01:33 Peacock damn, just noticed a problem with mapp, it doesn't know what to draw when there's just air :/ 01:44 dafull97 Megaf, still here? 01:48 Peacock how does this look for a creative inv? http://s17.postimg.org/blqwpjshb/Screenshot_141113_08_47_28_PM.png 02:47 Peacock i cant stop sneezing :( 02:48 dafull97 Megaf, you here? 02:50 Peacock !seen Megaf 02:50 MinetestBot Peacock: megaf was last seen at 2013-11-15 00:42:47 UTC on #minetest 02:58 ShadowNinja Peacock: No, they are identical. 02:59 Peacock thats what i thought 02:59 Peacock im not sure what was different between your code and sokomine's, but yours worked for my shield bubbles :) 02:59 ShadowNinja Peacock: Show me soko's and I'l try to tell you. :-) 03:00 Peacock i already deleted the old function :/ 03:00 Peacock but i can tell you this much: it gave me bubbles, but with part of it sliced off and further away 03:27 mrtux Any idea what this error in compilition is about? https://pastee.org/53xh9 03:27 mrtux i'm building the latest git. 03:27 Peacock recipe for target 'bin/minetest' failed 03:27 mrtux no, thats not it. 03:28 mrtux /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.8.2/../../../libIrrlicht.a(CImageLoaderPNG.o): In function `irr::video::CImageLoaderPng::loadImage(irr::io::IReadFile*) const': 03:28 mrtux (.text+0x271): undefined reference to `png_set_gray_1_2_4_to_8' 03:28 mrtux collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status 03:28 mrtux that. 03:28 Peacock well from what i can read, both errors are recipe errors? 03:29 Peacock hm, thats not in the log you pasted to pastee 03:29 mrtux got the latest irrlicht and libpng 03:29 Peacock you might wanna ask on -dev, they'll probably know more than us here lol 03:29 mrtux okay 03:29 mrtux thanks Peacock 03:30 kahrl by default irrlicht should be built with bundled libpng, linked statically into irrlicht, so that's an error you should not see 03:30 kahrl most likely it's your distro messing with your irrlicht library 03:30 Peacock arch? 03:30 mrtux yes, arch. 03:30 Peacock thought so 03:30 Peacock using an aur helper? 03:31 mrtux yes, yaourt. 03:31 Peacock yeah, last time i used arch, the archbang maintainers told me all the aur helpers were broken in one way or another 03:31 mrtux i see 03:31 mrtux the distro makes me mad quite a lot but i still like it 03:31 ShadowNinja I'm able to build Minetest on Arch... 03:31 Peacock which is probably why you're getting the error kahrl says you shouldn't be getting 03:32 mrtux damn arch 03:32 mrtux i'd use gentoo but i'm too lazy 03:32 Peacock yeah but minetest-git is through the aur helper, unless you compile it yourself 03:32 mrtux will compile it myself 03:33 Peacock mrtux try downloading it from github and compiling it yourself, the intructions are in readme, pretty straightforward 03:33 mrtux i did it on debian before, not hard at all. 03:33 Peacock debian and arch are two completely different beasts (ive used both :P) 03:33 mrtux yes 03:34 mrtux i had a vps before so i of course had to run minetest :) 03:34 Peacock arch is good for bleeding edge, but debian is best for smooth system updates lol 03:34 mrtux indeed. 03:34 Peacock if they could join forces they'd probably produce one kick-ass distro 03:36 mrtux systemd mostly got me angry at arch (i somewhat dislike it, especially journald) 03:37 Peacock well while i like the bleeding edge for my apps, i like it less so for system critical components lol 03:40 stormchaser3000 hi 04:26 paramat Peacock, local vm = minetest.get_voxel_manip() and local vm = VoxelManip() are different yes, as far as i know :) 04:28 paramat the first is for on-gen use, second for post-gen 04:29 * paramat has returned from being away with the fairies 04:31 dafull97 hey guys 04:31 dafull97 !seen kaeza 04:31 MinetestBot dafull97: kaeza was last seen at 2013-11-14 19:20:37 UTC on #minetest 04:46 paramat !seen tumbleweed 04:46 MinetestBot paramat: Sorry, I haven't seen tumbleweed around. 05:12 us`0gb !seen a test name with spaces 05:12 MinetestBot us`0gb: Sorry, I haven't seen a around. 05:13 Peacock !seen your_mother 05:13 MinetestBot Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen your_mother around. 05:13 Peacock :( 05:14 ShadowNinja paramat: No, minetest.get_mapgen_object("voxelmanip") is the mapgen version. 05:15 paramat okay :) 05:15 Peacock i found out the hard way :p 05:16 Peacock though i'd be lying if i said i totally understood lvm too lol 05:22 paramat are there 2 core devs here who can merge a simple and tested change to floatland perlin noise defaultsettings? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1005 05:22 paramat here's proller's diff stats https://github.com/proller/minetest/compare/indev 05:23 Peacock depends how far you are from valhalla XD 05:23 paramat :) thought it was worth a try ... 05:25 paramat those new parameters are an essential 2nd part of the floatlands fix, please can they be mergerd for 0.4.8? 05:25 paramat (merged) murdered? 05:27 Peacock not murdered, just disappeared, 05:28 Peacock to political reeducation camps XD 05:30 paramat "slipped in the shower" 05:30 Peacock fell into a gym bag and padlocked inside XD 06:02 paramat Peacock, since we last chatted i added a 2nd perlin noise for additional smaller, closer asteroids, it was a good move http://i.imgur.com/wFSrUAn.gif 06:11 us`0gb I came up with an insane idea at work today, and I was wondering if it was too crazy to actually be interesting. WOuld anyone want sections of the map to generate nones in brownscale like an old-timey photograph? The plan would be sort of to create "retro biomes", but they would be cubic and extremely rare. 06:12 us`0gb I don't want to code that if no one is actually going to enjoy it. 06:13 Peacock sea kelp 06:56 dafull97 kaeza here? 06:57 dafull97 !seen kaeza 06:57 MinetestBot dafull97: kaeza was last seen at 2013-11-14 19:20:37 UTC on #minetest 06:57 dafull97 =/ nope 07:11 paramat oops just realised the new floatland perlin settings have indeed been committed by proll'r, thanks! :) 07:16 paramat us`0gb: sepia biomes, interesting, but do code it for yourself, i would certainly enjoy the bizarre experience 07:17 * paramat notices even the tumbleweeds are hanging out elsewhere 07:18 us`0gb Tumbleweeds for Minetest might be interesting. We could add them to the deserts with the dry shrubs. 07:18 reactor Weed? 07:19 us`0gb A sepia test code should be easy. GIMP can probably age the default images for me. 07:19 paramat custom skybox could do a sepia sky 07:20 us`0gb Can that alter the sky in only some locations? 07:21 paramat yes its per player 07:22 paramat if player in sepia biome then player's sky = sepia 07:23 paramat tumbleweed = no need for dealers 07:23 proller paramat, next step - improve [huge] cavegen 07:24 proller or try use from v7 07:25 us`0gb Hmm. That brings up an interesting point. If sepia areas are kept track of, so the sky can be rendered, and someone moves the sepia nodes out to replace them with regular nodes, sepia skies or regular skies could seem out of place for the area. 07:28 paramat proller, i was thinking of suggesting improving the caves 07:28 proller need more shapes, flat, deep holes, etc 07:31 paramat i can come up with a good use of 3D perlin noise, how about similar shapes to my asteroid mod? 07:32 reactor You said "deep". 07:32 reactor "holes". Uhhhuhuhuhuhuh. 07:34 proller wet deep... 07:35 reactor Hhhuhuhuhuhuh hhhuhuhuhuhuh. 07:35 reactor (c) Beavis and Butthead. 07:38 paramat us`0gb: abms could slowly turn any imported nodes to sepia versions, exported sepia nodes slowly turn to normal versions ... 07:39 us`0gb Maybe .... But I like the idea of these nodes being able to be used elsewhere. Also, such an ABM would need to act on most nodes in the world, slowing the game down drastically, I would think. 07:41 us`0gb Then again, the ABM could be a sort of bleeding image effect .... 07:44 paramat yeah i like that idea too. another nuts idea: player's sky depends on xz position and each node walked over, so with a smooth-blended sepia biome the sky would flicker blue-sepia while walking over the biome blend. 07:47 proller us`0gb, no slowing in -next with lot of slow abms.. 07:47 proller you can make all abm 1s 1chance 07:48 us`0gb What exactly is "-next"? I've heard of it, but not heard what it is. 07:49 proller https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033 07:51 us`0gb So there's a pull to fix slow ABMs and it hasn't been merged? I wonder what the logic behind that is. 08:05 proller nobody needed in it 08:07 us`0gb Nobody needed more speed? Which is why LuaJit was added? 08:07 * us`0gb is confused 08:30 proller because minetest is engine, and nobody worry about game 08:55 reactor OldCoder: how's it going? 08:55 reactor Any people interested in it, at all? 08:56 reactor Maybe I should just ditch the project. 08:56 reactor I really have no time to do it anymore. 08:56 dafull97 reactor, interested in what? 09:38 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy PlayStation 4 Release Day! :-D 09:39 ruskie hehe 09:40 paramat Peacock, here it is in non-lvm form https://github.com/paramat/asteroid/archive/master.zip your wish for small asteroids has resulted in an epic mapgen :) 10:11 kaeza mornings 12:07 Fadi_ Afternoon 12:08 reactor o/ 12:08 reactor kaeza: mowning. 12:09 * Fadi doesn't high five reactor 12:09 reactor I didn't intend to high five you, FYI. I only wanted to wave. 12:09 reactor But whateve you're into, weirdo. 12:09 reactor s/eve/ever/ 12:10 Fadi I wanted to do a pun there 12:10 reactor I understand. :) 12:10 Fadi Aren't we all weirdos in some way :P? 12:10 reactor They say, у каждого в голове свои тараканы. 12:10 kaeza english please 12:11 reactor "Everyone has different cockroaches in their head." 12:11 Fadi wait let me check google 12:11 reactor If you dind't know, cockroaches are pretty common in flat blocks in Russia. I hate them. 12:12 Fadi btw kaeza congrats on you winning against Jordan 5 to nil 12:13 kaeza wut O.o 12:13 Fadi if you follow the world cup of course 12:13 reactor Fadi: what kind of gameplay are you into? 12:13 kaeza ah 12:13 kaeza :P 12:13 reactor I mean, in MT. 12:14 Fadi Hmm... I'm new to minetest so I can't really tell 12:14 reactor mk 12:14 Fadi actually you gave me a brilliant mod idea there 12:14 Fadi thanks 12:14 reactor ? 12:14 Fadi I'm going to try making a mod that has intense realism in it 12:15 reactor Oh. We had a guy here who wanted to do the same. 12:15 reactor You would probably like to meet him. 12:15 reactor Dan_D. 12:15 Fadi Oh I know dan 12:15 reactor Do you like making maps? 12:15 Fadi didn't see him in 3 days now and I suck at building massive giants builds 12:15 Fadi I like keeping it simple 12:16 Fadi when it comes to builds 12:16 reactor You make small maps? 12:16 Fadi I don't make maps o-O 12:16 reactor Oh. 12:16 reactor Builds, as in, sub-games? 12:16 Fadi ye 12:16 reactor Oh. 12:16 reactor I wonder if you would be interested to make a sub-game for this one: 12:16 reactor ftp://mike402.no-ip.biz:65421/pub/minetest/Pripyat/scr/ 12:17 reactor It's the map I'm working on. 12:17 Fadi hm pripyat 12:17 reactor Well, not actively anymore. 12:17 Fadi why am I getting a STALKER feel to it 12:17 reactor I ported it from Minetest, it's someone else's map, and I improve it. 12:17 reactor Minecraft* 12:17 reactor What I improve is, replace buildings with more realistic ones. 12:17 reactor STALKER is crap. 12:18 reactor Well, it's not crap exactly, but it managed to screw up everyone's image of the city. 12:18 reactor It has little to nothing to do with the actual Pripyat. 12:20 Fadi so what are you trying to actually do 12:20 Fadi what concept are you going with 12:21 reactor I'm just making a map for the sake of it. 12:21 reactor Pripyat in its modern state. 12:21 reactor It can be used for some game, I don't know. 12:21 reactor I once thought of making it a huge DM arena. 12:21 Fadi maybe I could work on a real life mod for it? 12:22 Fadi or that 12:22 reactor Define real life. 12:22 Fadi well roleplay, banks, stuff like that 12:22 reactor Dude. 12:22 reactor Roleplay is boring as hell. 12:22 reactor And there ain't no banks in a dead city! 12:22 Fadi you said 07 05Pripyat in its modern state.01 12:22 Fadi so I assumed that lol 12:23 Fadi oh I get what you mean now 12:23 reactor Well, it's abandoned. 12:23 reactor I have to wonder. What is your native language? 12:23 Fadi Arabic 12:23 reactor Oh. 12:23 reactor Mine is Russian. 12:24 reactor Arabic must be complicated. 12:24 reactor Is it? 12:25 Fadi Not for me 12:25 reactor Mk. 12:25 Fadi brb 12:25 reactor Take your time, I'll be back in an hout. 12:25 reactor s/hout/hour/ 12:31 sfan5 hi everyone 12:32 iqualfragile moin sfan5 12:33 iqualfragile they have messed up the linux pkgbuild in archlinux -.- 12:33 iqualfragile the LINUX pkgbuild! 12:58 artur99 hi 12:58 artur99 which is the actually meanning of Fancy Tree? 12:58 Fadi back 13:07 artur99 hi 13:07 artur99 what is the smooth lighting in the settings? 13:08 Fadi it adds smooth lightning, so the lights look better from the object they emit from 13:08 Fadi at least that's what I think it does 13:09 artur99 ok, thanks 13:15 artur99 but what mip-mapping does/? 13:15 Fadi I have no clue about that lol 13:17 artur99 but Anisotropic filter ? 13:18 Fadi smoothens the textures and the edges 13:18 iqualfragile artur99: fancy trees: leaves are partly transparent; smooth lightning: instead of every block having one brightness value it has some kind of gradient calculated from surrounding blocks 13:19 artur99 Thnaks 13:19 artur99 *Thanks 13:19 iqualfragile mip-mapping&anisotropic filtering: go use wikipedia 13:20 artur99 :) ok, thanks 13:21 EvergreenTree The way I run minetest is by compiling a run in place build, and making a .desktop file for it, which goes to .local/share/applications 13:21 EvergreenTree Does anyone else do it that way? 13:21 iqualfragile EvergreenTree: nope, aur has minetest-git 13:22 EvergreenTree iqualfragile, I do to 13:22 iqualfragile ? 13:22 kaeza I always have a terminal open on ~/src/minetest 13:22 Fadi groups = {cracky=2} cracky is for how hard it can be broken? 13:22 kaeza so it's just bin/minetest for me 13:23 iqualfragile i do not run minetest the way you do because archlinux has an minetest-git package 13:23 EvergreenTree Okay, I compile the latest git, (with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1), and make a .desktop file linking to the executable 13:23 iqualfragile so i just install& update that 13:23 EvergreenTree Yes, I suppose that's easier, but I do it this way 13:23 iqualfragile it is a propper system wide install complete with system wide .desktop files and stuff 13:29 iqualfragile any russians arround? 13:29 reactor ? 13:29 reactor I am from Russia. I think I am able to help you. 13:30 reactor Please state your problem. 13:39 OldCoder Hi 13:39 OldCoder reactor, iqualfragile haven't you two met yet? 13:39 iqualfragile we have 13:39 reactor We haven't. 13:40 reactor I don't remember. I think I need to look up the logs. 13:40 OldCoder Just curious 13:40 OldCoder You are both active 13:40 reactor I am passive-aggressive. 13:40 iqualfragile we were talking about operating systems 13:40 OldCoder reactor, do you consider Pripyat stable at this time? 13:40 reactor OldCoder: Yes. 13:40 OldCoder Passive Agressive Operating System 13:40 OldCoder PAOS 13:40 reactor OldCoder: some falling gravel need be cleaned in the corner, though. 13:40 OldCoder reactor, how it was going was that I was asleep :-) 13:41 reactor I'm fine. 13:41 OldCoder reactor, can you explain what to do to somebody who is interested? 13:41 reactor I've been doing some datahousekeeping. 13:41 reactor s/aho/a ho/ 13:41 reactor And the Pripyat materials got moved a little. 13:41 OldCoder I wish to back-up the world before people start building 13:41 reactor Yes. 13:41 reactor I need better buildings. 13:41 OldCoder Well, advise people if you can, thanks 13:41 OldCoder They are good for a start 13:42 OldCoder If there is falling gravel let me know if anything is needed 13:42 reactor I mean, realistic buildings. Google and Yandex maps should be used as reference for their dimensions. 13:42 reactor Photos should be, as well. 13:42 reactor I will look at the worledit schemes provided of them, finish details, and incorporate them in the map. 13:42 reactor Easy like that. 13:42 OldCoder That is an interesting way to do it 13:43 OldCoder I am headed to work and will sign on there 13:43 reactor See you there. 13:58 artur99 if i see for example Creating client... on translate.minetest.ru i must translate ... as simple ... or i have to insert them with "insert horisonntal ellipses" ? 14:01 kaeza whichever is used on your language, generally "..." (three dots) 14:02 artur99 ok, thanks 14:31 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:32 iqualfragile moin PilzAdam 14:37 artur99 what is "use" ? 14:37 artur99 "Use" = climb down 14:37 artur99 but what it means? 14:38 PilzAdam Use is the E key 14:39 artur99 and why it is called use ? 14:40 PilzAdam nobody knows 14:41 PilzAdam you can call it auxiliary key 14:41 PilzAdam kaeza, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-11-09#i_3424437 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=118145#p118145 <- you lied to me :-( 14:42 kaeza PilzAdam, aww 14:42 kaeza it was not even a public API anyway 14:42 kaeza (the functions were public but documented nowhere) 14:43 PilzAdam the "API" of minetest_game isnt documented anyway 14:44 kaeza okay 14:45 kaeza how about you document those then? 14:46 * PilzAdam hides 15:06 Fadi sup 15:08 Fadi so my texturing abilities are limited and I know a fairly decent amount of lua, what do you guys suggest as a mod idea 15:22 Fadi hey why does the lua_api in the minetest directory have more examples than the wiki 15:22 Fadi someone fix that please :p 15:28 kaeza The definitive reference is always lua_api.txt 15:30 Fadi rules_a= 15:30 Fadi what are the rules for 15:31 kaeza no idea; never used L-systems :P 15:31 Fadi axiom=? 15:32 Fadi did anyone work with thoses here? 15:32 Fadi those* 15:36 harrison l-systems is probably a good idea for you 15:36 harrison you can make trees 15:44 artur99 who can tell me a good minetest server? 15:44 reactor I don't know. 15:44 harrison VanessaE's creative server is nice 15:46 artur99 can you tell me the adress/port ? 15:47 kahrl Fadi: have you seen http://dev.minetest.net/treegen? 15:49 harrison artur99: the client knows it already 15:49 artur99 ok, thanks 15:50 artur99 i can only see the survival one 15:50 artur99 oh, fownd it 15:50 artur99 thanks 15:53 artur99 where can i find a cheap private server? 15:55 Fadi o I didn't, thanks kahrl 15:57 artur99 what e key does? 15:59 EvergreenTree Jordach, o/ 15:59 Jordach EvergreenTree, o/ 15:59 Fadi Fadi, o/ 16:21 artur99 what e key does? 16:22 kaeza run if you have "fast" privilege, and can also act as "descend" 16:25 artur99 but any other use? 16:25 artur99 or only that 16:25 artur99 ? 16:26 kaeza only that 16:57 artur99 minetest run on 128 MB ram? 16:57 artur99 i mean a server 17:00 Sokomine anyone speaking french? 17:03 artur99 je ne parle pas francais.. Excuse moi! 17:03 artur99 :) 17:04 Sokomine no, don't worry :-) i do still understand some french, but i want to say something in that language - and my vocabulary is just too rusted :-( 17:04 artur99 8 years of learning francais at school, but idk francais, only a few 17:05 artur99 and 5 of learning english 17:05 artur99 and it's much better than francais 17:06 Sokomine same here, artur 17:06 ShadowNinja artur99: Maybe, it depends how many mods you use. 17:06 Sokomine ah, well, more english here than french :-) 17:07 * Sokomine installs a mod for speaking french in her brain but fails 17:08 artur99 but how many users can i accept? 17:09 Sokomine 128 mb isn't much 17:09 kaeza artur99, my server has 128MB of RAM and a few mods; I've seen up to 8 or 9 players at once with moderate lag 17:09 Sokomine (for today's standards) 17:10 artur99 moderate lad=bad or good? 17:10 artur99 :D 17:10 kaeza tends to have low latency 17:11 kaeza except when it randomly locks up or gets killed by OOM ;_; 17:11 artur99 but i thhink 300 will be enought 17:12 kaeza !up kaeza.mooo.com 17:12 MinetestBot kaeza.mooo.com:30000 is up (329ms) 17:24 Jordach 128mb of ram is good enough to run MG and mobs 17:24 * Jordach has done so before 17:28 artur99 so, using a VPS with linux i can host a minetest server? 17:32 artur99 15 pounds would be ok> http://my.iperweb.com/cart/low-end-vps/&step=0 ? 17:33 reactor john_minetest: o/ 17:36 Jordach reactor, o/ 17:38 artur99 why? 17:39 reactor Jordach: o/ 17:40 artur99 but what a core is/ 17:40 artur99 ? 17:40 artur99 :) 17:40 artur99 processoor 17:40 artur99 *processor? 17:44 Fadi so I'm planning to make specific gui's for my mod, how hard is it going to be? 17:47 iqualfragile Fadi: not too hard 17:48 Fadi well can you give me something about it 17:48 Fadi like a small example 17:48 Fadi would be nice :p 17:48 iqualfragile no, i cant, i am just the hüter der meere 17:49 Fadi Keeper of the seas 17:49 * Fadi understands German perfectly 17:49 iqualfragile *slowclap* 17:49 khonkhortisan *fasterclap* 17:50 iqualfragile *fastestfap* 17:50 Fadi If you didn't know, I'm an Arab so that's quite an achievement for me tbh 17:50 iqualfragile complete list of languages i am fluent in: http://translate.google.de/ 17:50 Fadi So you think I translated it using google? 17:51 iqualfragile maybe 17:51 Fadi It would have taken me more time to respond to that though 17:51 iqualfragile if you do in fact understand german perfectly then answer quickly: what is the difference between hirte und hüter 17:51 Fadi hirte is in plural 17:52 Fadi I think 17:52 Fadi no no 17:52 iqualfragile nope 17:52 Fadi actually not 17:52 Fadi hm 17:52 Fadi Give me something easier 17:52 Fadi I never used the word hirte 17:52 artur99 how to make a printscreen 17:53 Fadi You mean screenshot inside the game? 17:53 khonkhortisan I'm not as nachdenken as you betrunken I am 17:53 iqualfragile artur99: wtf? just press print on your keyboard 17:53 iqualfragile khonkhortisan: that did not make any sense 17:53 artur99 P ? 17:53 Fadi That's just a massive clunk of words khonkhortisan 17:53 iqualfragile i am not as thoughtfull as you drunk i am 17:53 Fadi I'm not as thinking as you drunk I am 17:53 khonkhortisan aw I got the wrong form 17:53 artur99 minecraft has a hotkey for screeenshoot 17:53 artur99 ? 17:53 Fadi it's minetest 17:53 Fadi and it's F12 17:53 iqualfragile artur99: minetest has too 17:53 Fadi you'll find the ss in the bin folder 17:54 iqualfragile Fadi: search for "formspec" for guis in minetest 17:54 khonkhortisan I meant "I'm not as think as you drunk I am" 17:54 Fadi oh thanks 17:54 iqualfragile that does not make sense either 17:54 khonkhortisan "I'm not as drunk as you think I am" with think and drunk switched 17:55 iqualfragile ah, ok 17:55 Fadi I hate making textures, someone make a texture generator 17:55 Fadi thanks* 17:55 Fadi -* 17:55 iqualfragile Fadi: that is not possible 17:55 iqualfragile well, at least not fully automatic 17:56 Fadi I think it can be made as a plugin for photoshop 17:56 iqualfragile uhgh, photoshop 17:56 Fadi I use Paint.net to make textures 17:56 Fadi so lel 17:56 iqualfragile Fadi: why do you speak german (or are at least able to read it?) 17:56 Fadi I grew up watching German tv thanks to my brother 17:56 khonkhortisan I use gimp 17:56 iqualfragile Fadi: try gimp, there are some plugins which might help you create textures 17:57 Fadi what plugins :o 17:57 iqualfragile namely resynthesizer and all its noise generators 17:57 Fadi hm 17:57 iqualfragile german tv? its not that great, is it? 17:57 Fadi well pokemon on rtl2 was fun 17:57 Fadi also yu-gi-oh 17:58 iqualfragile ah, ok, but those are no german shows 17:58 iqualfragile every german show i know is boring as hell 17:58 Sokomine iqualfragile: you did ask him a difficult question there. given what some germans write on message boards, i'm not sure all younger people would get it right 17:58 Fadi ye not german shows ofc 17:58 iqualfragile Sokomine: you mean that hirte vs hüter thing? 17:58 Fadi but tv series and cartoons translated to it 17:59 iqualfragile yes, it was mainly because i meant to write hirte der meere instead of hüter der meere earlier 17:59 Sokomine typical german shows would be something like lindenstrasse or schwarzwaldklinik 17:59 iqualfragile oh dear 17:59 iqualfragile horrible horrible things 17:59 Sokomine today, some shows (especially cheap amerian ones) manage to be even worse than those 17:59 iqualfragile or mord mit aussicht 18:00 iqualfragile which is no _that_ bad 18:00 iqualfragile and tatort, how could we forget tatort 18:00 Fadi I've been seeing this show pop up about private detectives 18:00 Fadi like helping girlfriends find out what their boyfriends are up to 18:00 Fadi it's 100% scripted 18:00 Sokomine iqualfragile: yes. hirten are not exactly something people today are familiar with. when i was younger, there where still some sheep herds visiting the meadows around, but that has stopped some time ago 18:01 Fadi hirtens means herds 18:01 iqualfragile Sokomine: yes, but they should know the word 18:01 Fadi ? 18:01 Sokomine hueter...today, that may occour more in games or fantasy movies/books than irl 18:01 Fadi it popped up in my mind but I thought you were tryign to trick me 18:01 Fadi lol 18:01 Fadi trying* 18:01 Sokomine aah. ok :-) 18:02 * Sokomine watches as some oceans gather around iqualfragile and follow him :-) 18:02 iqualfragile btw Sokomine, do you get notified when your name is mentioned in irc? because it seems to me that you do not 18:02 Fadi Pshhh he's not poseidon 18:02 Fadi :p 18:02 Sokomine ah, yes, tatort. but it's not as bad as lindenstrasse. no special need to flee if you see tatort on tv...just another crime story... 18:03 Fadi there's this show too about these guys in ibiza 18:03 Fadi by guys I mean boyfriends and their girls 18:03 iqualfragile yes, horrible stuff 18:04 iqualfragile we call it assitv here for a reason 18:04 Fadi do they still air two and a half men on Prosieben? 18:04 Sokomine iqualfragile: for a long time i did not get notified at all. now, with a more capable irc client, my name is written in bold, and if someone says it, that persons name gets written in yellow 18:04 iqualfragile Fadi: yes they do 18:04 Fadi o 18:04 Sokomine plus "windows" not currently active get a red number if someone said my name there 18:04 Fadi on tuesday night? 18:04 Fadi or was it thursday 18:05 Sokomine fadi: you watch too much bad tv 18:05 iqualfragile Sokomine: ah, wonderfull, i tried to reach you a few times and you just did not respond at all 18:05 Fadi I don't watch them, my brother just takes over the remote and watches those 18:05 iqualfragile Fadi: i do not know, i dont even own a tv 18:05 Fadi I stay for like 5 mins hoping he'd change then I go 18:05 Sokomine that's quite possible. i've changed to this new client pretty recently. new connections are now opened in new windows 18:06 Fadi "new windows" 18:06 Fadi Hope you're not using windows 8 18:06 Sokomine kind of, yes. it's called new window. of course everything happens in one terminal 18:06 Sokomine certainly not! 18:07 Sokomine it's only a virtual window. another screen i have to switch to if i want to see what's going on 18:07 Fadi oh 18:07 Sokomine the irc client is called irssi 18:07 khonkhortisan I use vertical tabs along the left side of both my irc client and web browser. I have yet to find this for a terminal. 18:07 Sokomine before, i had ircii. that one mixed everything together (which was pretty often confusing) 18:08 Fadi irssi ew 18:09 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Quassel. :-) Or weechat if you want a ncurses interface. 18:09 iqualfragile khonkhortisan: vertical tabs? 18:09 iqualfragile qussel ftw 18:09 iqualfragile quassel 18:09 khonkhortisan I'm stuck with xchat now that I have an all channels tab plugin 18:09 Sokomine i like ncurses based programs 18:10 Sokomine what would be the advantage of quassel? 18:10 Fadi I like nurses too 18:10 * Fadi walks away 18:11 Fadi somehow what you linked there john_minetest makes me want to play monopoly 18:12 khonkhortisan it's the monopoly house hammer in the comments 18:12 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Being able to see thinks like ^ just by hovering, dynamic backlog fetching, all the advantages of bouncers... 18:12 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: You mean like quasel's "Chat monitor"? :-) 18:12 iqualfragile Sokomine: i have no idea, unlimited scrollback maybee? seperated client and server? 18:13 Sokomine irssi keeps logs as well. those are usually the best if a search is required 18:13 iqualfragile http://soundcloud.com/samsastraum/hirte-der-meere 18:13 ShadowNinja I can just scroll up and see backlog from 6 months ago. 18:13 Fadi hey hey 18:13 Fadi let's discuss politics 18:13 ShadowNinja Sokomine: SQL > TXT 18:14 iqualfragile Fadi: ok 18:14 Sokomine want a few surplus german politicians? they're for sale 18:14 iqualfragile politics is an ugly bitch 18:14 iqualfragile done 18:14 Fadi So Egypt bought guns from Russia 18:14 Fadi and the US is butthurt about it 18:14 Fadi discuss 18:14 PilzAdam Jordach, ping 18:14 iqualfragile i am buthurt about it 18:14 Fadi thought we were going to discuss it for real 18:15 Fadi :| 18:15 iqualfragile usualy all those "kriesengebiete" buy weapons in germany!! 18:15 PilzAdam Jordach, https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest/commits/model can you make a server with that? 18:15 Fadi Not since the NSA scandal 18:15 Sokomine ah, well, that may be difficult. opinions may vary? 18:15 * Sokomine nods to iqualfragile 18:15 PilzAdam Jordach, it has a new model (made by me :D) and coded animation! 18:15 Fadi and they are not kiresengebiete ;-; 18:15 Sokomine we seem to export lots of weapons and war materials :-( nothing to be proud of i think 18:15 Fadi it's just the US/EU Trained terrorists! 18:15 PilzAdam Jordach, that is 13 KiB model + better animation than in minetest_game 18:15 Sokomine hi pilzadam 18:16 Fadi Going over to the #conspiracy channel, anyone going to join me? 18:16 iqualfragile nope 18:16 Fadi aw 18:16 iqualfragile no time for internet discussions 18:16 Fadi I'm multi tasking 18:16 Fadi try it, really eats up your time and you won't get anything done 18:16 ShadowNinja Fadi: Sounds like a incorrectly namespaced channel. 18:17 iqualfragile ##conspiracy would be correct 18:17 iqualfragile hi PilzAdam get merging! 18:18 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: -> -dev? 18:18 PilzAdam Im working on Pilztest currently 18:19 Fadi I've seen people add "default" as a dependency in their mods, is that really needed? 18:19 Warr1024 for load order, yes 18:19 Fadi o 18:19 Warr1024 i.e. if something in your mod depends on something in default having already been defined. 18:19 Fadi shit 18:20 ShadowNinja Fadi: One if you need something like "default.node_sounds_*_default()". 18:20 ShadowNinja Only* 18:20 Fadi oh 18:20 Fadi good then 18:20 Fadi actually that's bad, very bad 18:20 Fadi been doing some things wrongly 18:20 khonkhortisan ShadowNinja, I can't find a screenshot of that 18:23 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: http://imgur.com/54HhL2m 18:23 kahrl Fadi: I suppose it would also fix your problems with crafting 18:23 khonkhortisan which part is the chat monitor? 18:23 khonkhortisan the top? 18:24 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Yes. 18:24 khonkhortisan When you change channels, it stays there? That's more useful than my separate tab. 18:25 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: It (And most other GUI elements) is movable and resizable too. And yes, it stays there. 18:25 Fadi I fixed my crafting issues a while ago, it's just the special furnace that doesn't really work like I want it to 18:25 Fadi and I bugged trillian again 18:27 khonkhortisan this link is broken 18:27 Fadi and fixed 18:27 Fadi lol 18:29 Fadi minetest.register_alias do I need to use that in the mapgen for ores or not? 18:29 PilzAdam not for ores, no 18:30 PilzAdam ores are placed via minetest.register_ore() 18:30 iqualfragile i never understood why there are mapgen-specific materials 18:30 Fadi that's why my stuff wasn't spawning 18:30 Fadi thanks 18:41 Fadi how can you spawn particles 18:41 Fadi like I want to create my own particle effects 18:44 ShadowNinja Fadi: See minetest.add_particle and minetest.add_particlespawner 18:44 sfan5 hi everyone 18:44 ShadowNinja Hello sfan5. 18:44 Fadi thank you 18:48 Fadi did anyone try yet to create his own version of thaumcraft in minetest? 18:51 ShadowNinja Fadi: Not that I know of. 18:51 Fadi Good :p 18:54 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Like it? :-) 18:54 khonkhortisan yeah 18:56 Jordach Pilzy, late 18:56 Jordach r* 18:56 khonkhortisan it works differently, being on a channel on a network is the same as it being a "favourite channel" 18:58 issa2013 hellllo 18:58 issa2013 it's time 18:58 issa2013 to play minetest nighty build :) 18:58 iqualfragile Jordach: "Pilzy"? 19:01 khonkhortisan Someday I may change to another irc client, but it'll have to do more than quassel 19:03 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Are you using a seperate core? 19:03 khonkhortisan core? 19:03 khonkhortisan I'm still migrating settings from xchat 19:04 reactor "seperate" 19:04 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Quassel has two distinct parts, the core and the client, like a bouncer and a client. There is a client with both integrated into one though. 19:05 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: Did you get that? 19:05 khonkhortisan That disconnect button is so big! and right under Settings 19:05 khonkhortisan yes 19:07 * khonkhortisan hides the toolbar 19:08 artur99 what Print Stacks does? 19:09 khonkhortisan spellcheck overrides underline 19:15 iqualfragile reactor: seperate. 19:18 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Pass a errfunc to lua_pcall to get a traceback 371b39a09a 2013-11-15T11:13:31-08:00 http://git.io/f5ThDw 19:29 reactor iqualfragile: ? 19:29 iqualfragile [20:04:32] "seperate" 19:42 EvergreenTree Lol, this is perfect: http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1355/1388377109_31a68b924a_o.jpg 19:42 EvergreenTree I found it reposted on a certain person's g+ page 19:46 Jordach EvergreenTree, lol 19:47 Jordach EvergreenTree, let's GO! 19:55 iqualfragile EvergreenTree: hmm… more like may the bash be with you 19:55 iqualfragile VanessaE: interact plz 19:58 iqualfragile VanessaE: please use http to distribute media, its like a milion times faster 20:01 Sokomine oh. netsplit? 20:04 iqualfragile Sokomine: yes, looks like it 20:20 PilzAdam what the fuck Irrlicht? 20:20 PilzAdam my model + coded animation are exactly 180° rotated in Irrlicht 1.7 compared to 1.8 20:21 Calinou import in blender, R-Z-180, save, export, ???, profit 20:21 Calinou :p 20:22 PilzAdam but I dont know the Irrlicht version of the clients 20:26 PilzAdam Calinou, animation done in the code do 1) look a lot better than the ones saved in the model and 2) save about 90% filesize 20:26 PilzAdam pilztest has that now: https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest/commit/77d9ce6147f9add4928f61f2a060d9bb91b49a1d 20:27 Calinou O_o 20:27 Calinou is it smoothed? 20:27 PilzAdam well, its all done on the server, soooo.... 20:27 reactor Smooth. 20:27 reactor As in. "Damn, we're smooth!" 20:28 PilzAdam but it is "smoothed" as in the bones dont just "jump" arround as they do in the animations in mt_game 20:29 VanessaE iqualfragile: http/remote media is busted until kahrl's http_fetch goes in. 20:30 Calinou downloading your game :P 20:31 Calinou std::bad_alloc 20:43 iqualfragile VanessaE: it is? why? 20:43 VanessaE the client fails to download textures randomly 20:44 VanessaE or it downloads them in some way that causes the occasional texture or model to not actually be stored and processed correctly. 20:56 PilzAdam Jordach, is it "later" yet? ;-) 21:07 Jordach PilzAdam, no 21:08 PilzAdam :-/ 21:08 Jordach 1) Major headache 21:08 Jordach 2) busy 21:10 VanessaE EvergreenTree: you missed some conversion abms for quartz mod (for old horizontal objects -> 6d-capable regular ones) 21:23 EvergreenTree VanessaE, I know. 21:23 EvergreenTree I don't know how to do it though 21:23 VanessaE ok 21:23 VanessaE borrow the code from moreblocks :) 21:24 EvergreenTree Where in the moreblocks code? 21:24 VanessaE EvergreenTree: use this: https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks/blob/master/stairsplus_convert.lua 21:25 VanessaE but tweak it for your needs of course 21:27 EvergreenTree I can't really test it though. :S 21:27 VanessaE sure you can, it's easy 21:28 VanessaE just make a map using the pre-6d-facedir version, build as many variations of the quartz objects as you can. Exit, make a backup of that map - you will be restoring from that backup several times. 21:28 VanessaE then re-update to the current version, apply the conversion code, tweak it, and let it loose on the map 21:28 VanessaE if it doesn't work, exit from the game, restore from the backup, tweak and tune the code, and try again 21:28 VanessaE that's how I did it with moreblocks. took dozens of tries before I had ot right 21:29 VanessaE it* 21:29 VanessaE moreblocks' current conversion code is more complex than my original routine though. 21:34 Jordach john_minetest, lucky. fuck. 21:47 EvergreenTree VanessaE, I think I've got it 21:47 EvergreenTree I'm not sure why I can't craft quartz blocks on your server though. :S 21:49 EvergreenTree Whoops, I see why 22:06 Calinou night 22:07 STHGOM day 22:08 Calinou dight 22:09 STHGOM :D 22:11 STHGOM bye 22:12 iqualfragile flügel der freiheit 23:04 iqualfragile oh man, i am that close to dying from laughter http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1384540830490.jpg 23:10 NekoGloop tl;dr 23:14 iqualfragile NekoGloop: do it, you wont regrett it 23:18 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head :3:3 23:18 * NekoGloop dies from the weight 23:22 harrison they all begin that way 23:22 harrison but how much will it grow? 23:22 harrison that's the important thing 23:25 PilzAdam Taoki, Im having troubles attaching entities to bones of my player model 23:25 PilzAdam it seems like the server has the right position of the entity (checked that with a print() in the Lua code) but they are invisible in the client 23:26 harrison that seems reasonable. 23:26 NekoGloop no it's just that i'm a lil kitteh 23:28 harrison http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/cyber-activist-jeremy-hammond-sentenced-to-10-years-in-prison-20131115 23:28 harrison judge preska wielded a remorseless gavel today 23:29 harrison oh, he was supervised before 23:30 harrison well, he's a personal enemy of mine, so i am relieved that he is a guest of the fedgov 23:30 harrison oh, i am not rooting for "the system" 23:31 harrison but there isn't just one anti-system position 23:31 PilzAdam Taoki, oh, and btw: set_bone_position() works fine with Irrlicht 1.8 and .b3d 23:31 harrison although jeremy's side tries to pretend so 23:31 PilzAdam Taoki, I get better animations than the model in mt_game with only 10% of the filesize 23:32 harrison john_minetest: did you see the recent film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI4IYRT-Msw ? in the last few days humdreds of views flooded in 23:32 harrison i am trying to find out from where 23:32 Taoki PilzAdam: b3d is a better choice then. I liked x cuz it's a text format, and supported natively in Blender. But b3d is good too 23:32 Taoki Glad it works now 23:33 PilzAdam Taoki, do you have any ideas or hints about the attachment to bones? 23:33 harrison oh, but he actually works for the same side as the gov't 23:33 Taoki PilzAdam: Just that it uses an Irrlicht function too. Origin and rotation become relative to the bone also 23:33 harrison that is the harsh truth 23:34 harrison he's a leftist 23:35 harrison aha, youtube analytics shows me that 4chan.org sent me 71 views! 23:36 iqualfragile ah, while we are at animations and therefore models and therefore entities and therefore pullrequest 1000 23:36 harrison thank you! 23:36 iqualfragile does that fix entities getting out of sync on clients? 23:36 iqualfragile if it does: please fix 23:37 harrison for the next film i may use this as a soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSTx31dxmgA 23:37 iqualfragile s/fix/merge 23:38 harrison that is a feature 23:39 harrison the films are not meant to be like khan academy lol 23:40 harrison i can't please everyone, so i am forced to please myself 23:41 harrison it is a hard way to live 23:41 harrison but someone has to do it 23:41 harrison but i am sure there is one with a piano 23:41 harrison i have made several hundred 23:43 harrison very clearly and obviously i am showing off and explaining the realtime fractal-voxel raytracer that i have coded as you very well know 23:44 harrison and clearly you are attempting to troll me 23:44 harrison not very well tho 23:47 harrison good 23:47 harrison yes, intentionally is a good word for it 23:48 harrison it is in my nature 23:49 PilzAdam lol, 14.5 MiB of failed .blend files just to produce one working .b3d file which is 13 KiB 23:52 harrison you remind me of a girl i met once who tried to give me the dutch-uncle speech about my personality and how i "related to others" -- it was hella amusing, because she was gauche herself, but didn't know it. 23:53 harrison perhaps you should create something new yourself instead of constructively criticizing 23:55 iqualfragile nah, we like giving and recieving constructive criticism 23:55 iqualfragile what do you try to archive throught those videos? 23:56 harrison The verb is mysterious and the preposition misspelled 23:56 harrison i cannot understand your question 23:58 iqualfragile what efect do you want these videos to have 23:59 iqualfragile what are you making these videos for 23:59 iqualfragile why do you make those videos 23:59 iqualfragile what do you want people watching those videos to see