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00:00 Peacock in my case cola i need the sugar too lol
00:02 Peacock yesterday it snowed for the first time :/ in a not totally unrelated turn of events, i think i also had something like 12~13 beers lol
00:03 Peacock just seeing the christmas stuff in shop windows is depressing enough lol
00:03 Menche some stores have had christmas stuff since before halloween
00:04 Peacock jesus christ lol
00:05 VanessaE Peacock: btw, take your cold weather back to canuckistan, we weren't ready for it down here yet ;)
00:06 Peacock parts of the US had snowstorms like a month ago lol
00:06 VanessaE yeah but not down here in NC
00:06 VanessaE we were expecting snow on tuesday but that's been canceled
00:06 VanessaE (the state government voted against it ;) )
00:06 Peacock damn Obamma XD
00:07 Peacock i noticed a pattern in the media where people in the comments section blame obamma for everything, even the weather lol
00:08 Peacock we dont get to vote on the weather though
00:08 kaeza http://forlackofabettercomic.com/?id=136
00:08 Peacock our cities are too busy cutting deals with the mafia or cleaning up the city by smoking all the crack in it lol
00:08 Peacock (mayors)
00:09 Peacock theres one M in Obama?
00:09 Peacock that could have been embarrassing, he's been in office for a while lol
00:09 VanessaE yes
00:11 Peacock that was quick: WxWidgets 3.0: First Major Release in Seven Years
00:14 * Menche thought blaming everything on Bush was the cool thing to do
00:14 * Menche sees that a lot more often at least
00:14 Peacock well he did drive the economy into a ditch, and wage two wars on tab
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00:15 Exio4 Peacock: quick was e17's release
00:15 Peacock and the repubs try to blame those problems on Obama who was elected afterwards lol
00:15 Menche ...even though stuff's gotten worse under Obama
00:16 VanessaE stuff woulda gotten worse even faster under rMoney..
00:17 Peacock things would have been shit no matter who won
00:17 Peacock Thatcher: "Yes, the medicine is harsh, but the patient requires it in order to live."
00:18 Peacock perhaps next time y'all will think twice about waging two wars while cutting taxes, merging and deregulating banks
00:20 Peacock so yeah, blame Obama if you want :P it just sucks for him he has to spend all his political capital fixing this mess instead of implementing his own agenda
00:23 Peacock though you can always take comfort by look at what a joke Canadian politics are :P
00:26 Peacock "International Space Station Infected With Malware Carried By Russian Astronauts" - apparently all the astronauts won a free cruise XD
00:27 khonkhortisan The hacker could be charged with murder if a computer went down long enough for some form of life support to stop working
00:28 Peacock well computer crimes are already pretty serious in the west
00:28 Peacock but yeah, fucking with life support would be a dick move
00:36 lutoma derp
00:36 Peacock herpaderp
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01:19 Peacock https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1281  <--- doesn't indicate what the function returns
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01:38 kaeza Peacock, should be obvious from the function name :P
01:38 Peacock yeah but it should at least say an array of objectrefs lol
01:43 * RealBadAngel yawns
01:44 OldCoder That is contagious
01:46 us_0gb Is the de facto skin module still the one by Zeg9, or did that change in my absence?
01:47 kaeza personally I like player_textures more
01:47 us_0gb Why is that?
01:48 us_0gb I know that one was the original.
01:48 kaeza some players (and myself) prefer unique skins
01:49 us_0gb Ah, is that all? No worries then. The fork I use has both options.
01:50 us_0gb It first checks for a unique skin, and if you don't have it, it presents you with the skin list (which does not include peoples' unique skins).
01:50 kaeza that sounds useful
01:51 kaeza link?
01:51 us_0gb It may have been lost when 0gb.us_game was lost .... I was able to upload an outdated version, but it was missing some stuff.
01:51 us_0gb I'll look to see if it's still there.
01:52 us_0gb It's an old fork, so it doesn't use Zeg9's new features either.
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01:53 us_0gb Okay, it's stil here, but my be buggy: https://github.com/0gb-us/0gb.us_game/blo​b/master/0gb.us_game/mods/skins/init.lua
01:53 us_0gb kaeza, ^
01:57 us_0gb Hmm. The new skin previews are overly large ... There's got to be a better way to generate them than using Blender. An image slice-and-dicer would generate smaller images.
01:57 us_0gb I'll have to work on that when I have time.
02:13 NakedFury almost done with Batman Arkham Asylum game
02:13 us_0gb I don't know if I want to deal with multiple menus this time .... I might just leave out the skin changer.
02:13 us_0gb NakedFury, What system?
02:13 NakedFury windows
02:14 NakedFury got it from humble bundle with the second batman game and  some others for $5
02:14 us_0gb Oh, nice.
02:14 us_0gb I used to get a lot of games there.
02:14 us_0gb They have a great verity!
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02:15 us_0gb *variety
02:16 NakedFury Batman 1 and 2. Scribblenauts unlimited, F.E.A.R 2 and 3. Lord of the Rings War of the north
02:16 NakedFury https://www.humblebundle.com/
02:17 us_0gb Yeah, I know where the site is, ha ha.
02:17 NakedFury then they added a new Humble Store thingy with gam es at half the price.
02:17 NakedFury Prison Architect, Dont Starve, natural selection, anda  few others
02:18 OldCoder NakedFury, four worlds are up and seem to be working
02:18 OldCoder Help with your world will be appreciated
02:18 us_0gb I have Prison Architect. I don't play it any more, but I probably have it on my back up drive still.
02:18 OldCoder Shall I bring it back right now?
02:19 NakedFury how could I help
02:19 OldCoder Simple
02:19 OldCoder See what is broken
02:19 OldCoder And suggest fixes; that is all
02:19 NakedFury since prison architect is still in alpha or beta or whatever there is not much. Same with Rimworld
02:19 OldCoder Also, please give me coords and names of places. Places Mod will help.
02:19 OldCoder NakedFury, ^
02:19 NakedFury ok
02:20 us_0gb NakedFury, Probably the game I got there that was my favorite at the time was Organ Trail.
02:20 us_0gb Did you get that one?
02:20 Menche Organ Trail?
02:20 Menche lol
02:21 us_0gb Yeah, Organ Trail. A game about a zombie apocalypse.
02:21 us_0gb I usually do NOT like zombie games due to the way zombies are portrayed. But despite the poor portrayal, I loved that game.
02:56 NakedFury wwwwwwwwwwwwdddddddwdd
02:57 NakedFury fuck
02:58 NakedFury game keeps switching windows
03:22 ShadowNinja us_0gb: I have a copy of (old_)0gb_us_game from just before you took it down.
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03:23 us_0gb ShadowNinja, You do? You're awesome! That could save me a lot of recoding.
03:23 us_0gb THis time it won't go down, but it will be in pieces.
03:24 us_0gb (So no 0gb.us_game, but the modules separately will be available as long as GitHub lets me stay.)
03:26 ShadowNinja Ah, that seems good.
03:34 NakedFury batman done
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05:05 dmitryk1 Hi! I try compile minetest ang get error: error LNK2005: _ungetc already defined in LIBCMT.lib(ungetc.obj).\minetest-build​\src\MSVCRT.lib(MSVCR100.dll)minetest
05:06 dmitryk1 hwat can i do? It in MSVC.
05:06 dmitryk1 Can U help me?
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05:44 us|0gb The laptop doesn't suspend when you close it, the volume dial doesn't do anything, the screen brightness cannot be adjusted .... I know LXDE is light, but this is ridiculous. I'm going back to GNOME.
05:46 us|0gb (Yes, I'm being a bit picky, I know.)
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06:06 VanessaE \o/  darkrose's Minetest-Classic is (mostly) supported by HDX now :D
06:07 us|0gb Yay!
06:07 VanessaE I just have to wait for her to respond to my reports so I can remedy the "mostly" part :)
06:09 us|0gb Sounds like a good plan.
06:12 Menche there a way to download just the -classic textures?
06:14 VanessaE Menche: grab one of the "Stable" release ZIPs.
06:14 VanessaE that'll get all the default stuff, but it's for all four games.
06:15 Menche hmm. ok.
06:15 VanessaE it's too much trouble to try to maintain separate archives for all possible resolution + game combinations
06:19 Menche seems to be targetted at a version without the 3D torches
06:20 VanessaE no
06:20 VanessaE it's a bug I have to resolve with darkrose
06:20 VanessaE just delete the torch, door, and signs images from the HDX release.
06:20 us|0gb We have 3D torches now?
06:20 Menche in -classic
06:21 us|0gb Okay, got it.
06:22 * Menche doesn't get what the bug is
06:22 Menche the torch.png wasn't made to map to the new torch model
06:22 VanessaE yeah I know
06:23 VanessaE the texture filename conflicts with minetest 0.4.x
06:23 VanessaE I need to get darkrose to change it.  Same for signs and doors.
06:23 Menche isn't it "default_torch.png" in 0.4.x?
06:23 VanessaE else I'll be forced to make a separate -classic release.
06:23 VanessaE it's a conflict with mt_nostalgia probably
06:24 Menche mt_nostalgia doesn't follow texture naming conventions?
06:24 VanessaE it tries to stick to 0.2.x/0.3.x naming conventions I guess
06:25 VanessaE If necessary, I'll push some updates to mt_nostalgia to resolve the conflict but I need darkrose's input too.
06:27 Menche only the bottom half of the door is textured
06:27 VanessaE I know.  same issue.
06:28 VanessaE (well, that's a conflict with 0.4.x minetest_game)
06:31 Menche windowed door is missing all textures
06:31 VanessaE I know.
06:32 * Menche really thinks the windowed door should use the same textures as it's non-windowed counterpart
06:32 Menche the windows are coded into the nodebox
06:32 VanessaE yeah
06:34 Menche cool, the DM's fireball is textured
06:35 VanessaE ha, I forgot about that one :D
06:35 Menche probably from mobf?
06:35 * VanessaE shrugs :)
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07:58 dmitryk1 Hi!
07:58 VanessaE hi
07:58 us|0gb Hello!
07:58 * khonkhortisan waits a minute to say good morning
07:59 VanessaE hey khonkhortisan.
07:59 dmitryk1 I need help again.
07:59 us|0gb khonkhortisan, Pacific Time?
07:59 khonkhortisan hi
07:59 khonkhortisan yes
07:59 us|0gb Ha ha, me too.
08:00 khonkhortisan Good morning!
08:00 dmitryk1 I try to compile and get: Error18error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol __imp__tmpnam src\lua.lib(loslib.obj)minetest
08:00 VanessaE o.O
08:01 dmitryk1 and many more with any symbol from lua.lib
08:02 VanessaE never seen errors like that
08:02 VanessaE what are you doing to compile it?
08:03 reactor Hello. I am a computer program.
08:06 dmitryk1 VanessaE, i make vs project with cMake. And make in it...
08:07 VanessaE no clue there.  I believe someone did warn you that this wasn't really geared toward using VS ... :)
08:07 dmitryk1 Ok.
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09:05 GNADev|zRokh hey to all you beautiful ladies ;P
09:05 OldCoder Umm
09:05 OldCoder How is the game coming GNADev|zRokh
09:06 GNADev|zRokh good, found and fixed a bug, added the delete function to the name choosing stuff...
09:06 GNADev|zRokh with backspace people can now delete the whole name >D
09:06 OldCoder All right
09:06 OldCoder I forget; will this be FOSS?
09:06 GNADev|zRokh but haven't had time to upload the new version yet...
09:06 GNADev|zRokh not exactly...
09:07 GNADev|zRokh it will be a limited time non-FOSS... :P
09:07 OldCoder Good luck
09:07 OldCoder You would do better with a FOSS GitHub repo
09:07 GNADev|zRokh when the game gets 500 000 buyed copies it will go FOSS
09:07 OldCoder All right
09:07 OldCoder 500,000 you say
09:07 OldCoder So, next July
09:08 GNADev|zRokh lol?
09:08 OldCoder :-)
09:08 OldCoder Dream big
09:09 GNADev|zRokh i will :D
09:10 GNADev|zRokh just like Notch did
09:10 GNADev|zRokh Notch is one of the guys on my TODO list that i want to see :D
09:10 GNADev|zRokh the other one is Gaben
09:10 GNADev|zRokh :P
09:10 GNADev|zRokh i mean the Bucket list
09:10 GNADev|zRokh :D
09:12 GNADev|zRokh and another thing that is in the bucket list is to play Minecraft with BajanCanadian and JeromeASF
09:13 OldCoder k
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09:44 hoodedice So I was talking...
09:44 hoodedice *thinking
09:44 hoodedice (lol)
09:45 hoodedice Why don't we integrate a torrent client inside the minetest client
09:45 hoodedice To decrease server overload?
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09:51 hoodedice Stupid idea, I guess
09:51 hoodedice =|
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10:15 VanessaE hoodedice: cURL + http_fetch will do basically the same thing
10:15 VanessaE but without the swarming part of course.
10:25 hoodedice hmm
10:26 hoodedice Do we have it in the latest?
10:29 VanessaE cURL, yes, but not the http_fetch code.  probably when 0.4.8 comes out, with any luck
10:30 hoodedice hmm
10:32 Peacock Revelation 8:6 "Now the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to blow them, for 0.4.8 was coming"
10:39 kaeza "freebsd - the best ubuntu!"
10:39 Peacock agreed XD
10:40 Peacock oh dear, not sure if proller was trolling or for real lol
10:41 Peacock daaaamn, onpon posted without mentioning 'libre' or 'proprietary', brb, need to go see if the sky is still up
10:42 kaeza hah
10:42 Peacock yep, still there, must be a full moon or sometin' lol
10:54 Peacock damn they're expecting another typhoon in the Philippines  :S
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11:53 Peacock http://youtu.be/ySRgVo1X_18
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12:32 sfan5 hi everyone
12:34 Peacock !seen everyone
12:34 MinetestBot Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen everyone around.
12:34 Peacock sorry mate, out of luck
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12:42 * Peacock enters borg alcove, begins regeneration cycle
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12:53 EmmetCooper hey
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13:16 arsdragonfly the 1000th PR/issue is on the horizon
13:16 arsdragonfly great milestone isn't it :P
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13:20 EvergreenTree o/  hmmmm
13:30 sfan5 chrome now displays which tab is playing music!
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13:55 thexyz wow pa is such a dick
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13:55 thexyz sfan5: can you provide windows builds for this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033?
13:56 sfan5 yes
13:56 thexyz hm.. though to think about it
13:57 thexyz maybe someone should make a buildbot or something
13:57 sfan5 does buildbot mean dedicated server that does it every day or a script?
13:59 thexyz a combination of those
13:59 thexyz why every day though?
13:59 thexyz make it build every commit
13:59 sfan5 I can give you a build script
14:00 thexyz i.e. ppsspp does it
14:00 thexyz that'd be cool
14:00 proller -next better to build every day, sometimes it needs in fixing conflicts
14:01 thexyz dunno, I don't see any problem in making a cronjob which fetches latest changes and builds everything
14:06 sfan5 thexyz: http://ix.io/90l
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14:08 thexyz let's see
14:09 proller thexyz, now i make 3-4 commits to solve conflict with #999
14:09 thexyz that's fine
14:09 proller no sense to build 3-4 times
14:09 proller maybe every [half-]hour
14:09 thexyz sfan5: libogg-1.2.1-dev.7z ERROR 404: Not Found.
14:09 sfan5 grr
14:09 sfan5 I hate that
14:11 sfan5 https://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest-libs.7z goes (unpacked) into $libdir
14:12 thexyz it'll try to download it anyway, won't it?
14:12 sfan5 no
14:12 sfan5 [ -f $libdir/... ] || wget ...
14:12 thexyz oh, I see
14:13 thexyz (I can't find this in the script you sent to me but I'll trust you on that)
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14:14 thexyz also your ssl certificate is invalid
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14:14 proller wget --no-check-certificate ....
14:14 thexyz I know
14:14 thexyz this is just weird
14:14 thexyz why use ssl if you don't have a valid certificate?
14:15 sfan5 oh right
14:15 thexyz (use as-in give links to other people)
14:15 proller for hiding data ?
14:16 thexyz well that makes sense
14:16 sfan5 you also need this in the directory of the script: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/upload/userdata/1/bb.zip
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14:17 thexyz why do you use irrlicht 1.7.2?
14:17 sfan5 too lazy to use a newer one
14:18 thexyz minetestdirname=`unzip -l $packagedir/minetest.zip | head -n 7 | tail -n 1 | sed -e 's/^[^m]*//' -e 's/\/.*$//'`
14:18 thexyz I fell like some weird magic's going on
14:19 sfan5 celeron55 wrote that
14:19 thexyz alright
14:19 thexyz also consider using https:// when linking to minetest.ru
14:19 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix compiling with 32bit MinGW 5094a39f05 2013-11-12T06:18:20-08:00 http://git.io/zZf2mg
14:20 thexyz eh
14:20 thexyz what do we use murmur for?
14:21 sfan5 murmur? what? where?
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14:22 thexyz oh, I see
14:22 thexyz to hash string world seed
14:23 sfan5 ah..
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15:10 rubenwardy Hi all!
15:11 sfan5 hi rsiska
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15:12 kaeza sup rubenwardy
15:12 rubenwardy nm
15:15 reactor Hello, I am a computer program.
15:16 AspireMint Hi, i am AM
15:17 reactor Why do you say you are AM?
15:17 AspireMint "A"spire "M"int - AM
15:18 AspireMint o.o
15:18 reactor Please go on.
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16:00 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
16:00 Jordach hello PilzAdam
16:00 Jordach looks like we both got through the door at the same time ;)
16:03 PilzAdam heh
16:03 reactor Hello Pliz.
16:04 Jordach reactor, ah you're here
16:04 reactor I am.
16:04 reactor You have something to tell me?
16:04 Jordach see pm
16:04 reactor I see.
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16:22 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Sc​reenshot%20from%202013-11-12%2014%3A21%3A25.png
16:22 harrison ,09memehopper
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16:24 Rhy5 Ello
16:24 kaeza yell-o
16:24 Rhy5 YELL-O
16:24 Rhy5 Hows life kaeza? :)
16:24 kaeza making gliders
16:25 Rhy5 Hmf. Hard job, huh|?
16:25 Rhy5 You know, getting all the materials.
16:25 kaeza they are just 5 pixels :P
16:25 Rhy5 Makes sense.
16:25 Rhy5 What does the wolf say?
16:26 Rhy5 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
16:26 Rhy5 Makes sense, makes sense.
16:26 Calinou the wolf kills you and fakes seer
16:27 Rhy5 Very nice.
16:27 Calinou anyway hi Rhy5 :)
16:27 Rhy5 Lol hi. :)
16:28 Rhy5 I am actually Rhys, from the Minetest Forums.
16:28 Calinou I know
16:28 Rhy5 But, I wasn't able to make a Rhys account on the forums, since I used Rhys on here before.
16:29 Rhy5 So hows life Calinou?
16:29 Calinou fine :)
16:29 Rhy5 You know, finding MESE and Nyan Cats? :3
16:29 Calinou never found any in real life :(
16:30 Rhy5 Mmm...
16:30 Rhy5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUvuZpp4vX8
16:31 Rhy5 At least someone found Mese in real life. :)
16:31 * Jordach goes outside
16:31 Jordach finds nyan cat
16:31 * Rhy5 steals the Nyan Cat
16:31 * Rhy5 finds a Nyan Cat
16:32 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Jordach's head
16:32 * dafull97 wants to play minetest
16:33 Jordach meow
16:33 Jordach dafull97, vanessa's Survival
16:33 Jordach you can (usually) find me or EvergreenTree playing
16:34 dafull97 im at school =/ so i cant
16:34 harrison can i play
16:34 harrison am i cool enuff
16:34 Jordach with myself*
16:34 dafull97 no harrison =P lol jk
16:35 dafull97 i dont think they will care?
16:35 reactor Hell-o
16:35 sfan5 Otakux is an Ubuntu-based distribution designed for "Otaku", a Japanese term used to refer to people with obsessive interests in anime, manga and video games.
16:35 sfan5 wat
16:36 reactor Ha.
16:36 reactor !title
16:36 MinetestBot reactor: MESE in Real Life! - YouTube
16:36 reactor ?!
16:37 Rhy5 MinetestBot?
16:37 thexyz oh I've found it
16:37 reactor MinetestBot: not descriptive enough.
16:37 Rhy5 Uh...
16:37 thexyz http://aloonix.neocities.org/
16:37 Rhy5 Is this really a Bot?
16:37 reactor I aren't.
16:37 dafull97 after i return from lunch i will like to discuss a topic with all
16:37 dafull97 about a server that i want to make
16:37 reactor dafull97: bon appetite
16:38 reactor s/a/the/
16:38 dafull97 what is that reactor/?
16:38 reactor ?!
16:38 reactor What is what?
16:38 dafull97 bon appetite?
16:38 reactor Before I tell you, I should wonder. What is your native language?
16:38 dafull97 English
16:38 Calinou bon appétit
16:39 reactor How don't you know that, dafull97?
16:39 dafull97 i dont know? sounds like a different language to me
16:39 reactor It's borrowed from French. They say it before meal.
16:40 kaeza Bon appétit... Oh, Mexican food! My favorite.
16:40 dafull97 ohh, i havnt hardly ever heard that
16:40 reactor You're strange.
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16:40 dafull97 who? =P
16:40 reactor Also. I was mistaken. It's spelled "appetit".
16:41 dafull97 lunch time =D ttyla
16:41 reactor dafull97: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bon_app%C3%A9tit
16:42 reactor I really doubt your native language is English.
16:42 reactor You're hiding something from me.
16:43 Rhy5 Mmm...
16:43 Rhy5 I think he's been drinking too much of ray8888's wine.
16:43 sfan5 GIMP needs 2 mins to realize my clipboard does not contain anything useful.. WTF
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16:44 reactor GIMP is fat.
16:45 reactor But unfortunately, there is no alternative to it.
16:45 sfan5 fat32 or fat16?
16:45 kaeza :D
16:46 Calinou vfat!
16:47 sfan5 proprietary D:
16:47 reactor FAT is a bad filesystem.
16:47 harrison i am on VanessaE's creative server and just turned on all the graphics settings
16:47 harrison which i had never seen before
16:47 harrison & it is night so i can't see much
16:47 harrison but it is very pretty now
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16:53 harrison now i am going to look at the survival server
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17:00 Ritchie_ hello, I want to ask- is minetest multithreaded?
17:02 proller 1.5 threaded
17:07 Calinou mapgen can be set to use several threads, it can cause issues with caves though
17:11 Ritchie_ Calinou: yes, I noticed it in minetest.conf, but I didn't know if minetestserver is multithreaded
17:12 Ritchie_ maybe there is difference between minetestserver and client, so I would like to know situation in minetestserver
17:14 Calinou the server and client themselves are not :P
17:14 Calinou only map generation, which is in the server
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17:14 Calinou so some part of server is multithreaded
17:14 Calinou but it is quite fast usually
17:14 dafull97 reactor, what is your native language?
17:14 Calinou and the multithreading only affects C++ map gen, not lua
17:15 dafull97 reactor here?
17:15 reactor dafull97: it's not English.
17:16 dafull97 ok, do you know anyone that knows english?
17:16 reactor But I know English well, I think.
17:16 reactor Define "know".
17:16 dafull97 such as live in america, and use it everyday for communication/
17:16 reactor Someone who speaks English would rather say "anyone who know English".
17:17 reactor s/know/knows/
17:18 dafull97 no, just ask anyone that lives in america and ask them how often "bon appétit" is used in america
17:18 dafull97 and it would be "anyone that knows english" ^^
17:18 reactor Oh, so you're not English.
17:19 dafull97 yes i am
17:19 dafull97 -_-
17:19 reactor You're American.
17:19 dafull97 yes, sorry haha
17:19 dafull97 USA Citizen
17:19 reactor I see.
17:19 reactor You want to talk about that?
17:20 dafull97 Not really, i just was going to talk about clustering raspberry pi's
17:20 dafull97 for a server
17:20 dafull97 as you see it isnt supported in Minetest
17:20 dafull97 but in Minecraft =/
17:20 reactor Clustering raspberry pi's. Get a life.
17:21 dafull97 Seriously?
17:21 reactor If you want a cluster, R Pi is not a good choice.
17:21 reactor It's a low-performance machine.
17:21 dafull97 explain please and i realize that
17:21 reactor It's fine as a desktop or a small data server, but NOT as data procesor.
17:21 reactor So clustering them for data processing is not good.
17:22 reactor And I haven't heard of clustering being of any use in servers.
17:23 Ritchie_ ok, Calinou and proller thank you for info :)
17:23 Calinou np :)
17:24 dafull97 ok, what would be a good for that data process?
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17:24 proller dafull97, can you try https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033 on pi?
17:25 dafull97 i was also thinking beagle bone black...
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17:26 dafull97 proller, what exactly is that? =/ multithread available?
17:26 proller no lags available
17:26 proller i think pi can handle 10-20 players
17:27 reactor Oh, so you don't want to process data?
17:27 reactor Why cluster then?
17:27 reactor You could just use them as separate machines.
17:27 dafull97 reactor, i am wanting to host a server, such as Minetest or Minecraft
17:27 reactor Yes.
17:27 reactor Why a cluster?
17:28 dafull97 shares RAM correct?
17:28 dafull97 proller, no lags? meaning?
17:29 reactor dafull97: hell.
17:29 reactor cluster != shared memory system
17:31 dafull97 reactor, a cluster integrates the resources of two or more computing devices (that could otherwise function separately) together for some common purpose.
17:31 dafull97 http://compnetworking.about.com/od/itin​formationtechnology/l/bldef_cluster.htm
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17:32 Menche i think that each node in the cluster has it's own separately functioning OS though
17:32 reactor dafull97: you can't physically share memory.
17:32 reactor dafull97: need a layer of abstraction for that.
17:32 reactor And I doubt memory sharing over ethernet would be fast enough.
17:32 pitriss reactor: +1
17:33 reactor Menche: such a network doesn't usually fall into definition of cluster.
17:33 Menche ah ok
17:33 reactor ...unless they all run a program that lets them share processing jobs.
17:33 dafull97 so meaning - that it isnt worth it and wouldnt boost performance?
17:33 reactor It's not worth it.
17:34 Menche i think it requires specially written software
17:34 reactor s/h it/h/
17:34 * Menche thought this was discussed before
17:35 * dafull97 Agrees with Menche - although it wasnt explained this well
17:36 dafull97 now, one last question
17:36 Menche could try zram if you really need more space
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17:37 dafull97 if i had raspberry pi, would it be able to play minetest and minecraft?
17:37 reactor Zram is only available on Linux.
17:37 reactor dafull97: Not sure.
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17:38 dafull97 zram will use disk space as ram?
17:38 Menche no
17:38 EvergreenTree dafull97, Not sure about minetest, there is minecraft pi though
17:38 Menche it's a compressed swap space in RAM
17:38 EvergreenTree minecraft pi is no where near the full version though
17:38 dafull97 ok thanks all
17:38 Menche it's slightly slower than plain RAM, but still much faster than the disk
17:38 EvergreenTree Expect the full minecraft game to run at 1 fps though
17:38 Menche if you really need the space it may be worth it
17:39 Menche but people have been running minetest on the pi comfortably apparently
17:40 dafull97 ok, this is really the last question
17:40 dafull97 =D
17:41 dafull97 between the raspberry pi and beagle bone black, what could each server run with minetest and minecraft? - meaning what is the max players that they could support both minetest and minecraft?
17:42 Menche that's probably difficult to answer
17:42 dafull97 how so?
17:42 Menche most accurate way to find that out would be to try it
17:42 dafull97 ok... thx anyway
17:42 dafull97 =)
17:42 Menche and it would vary depending on how active the players are, how close to each other they are, what mods are running, etc.
17:43 dafull97 oh, so yea preety difficult
17:43 dafull97 haha
17:43 Ritchie_ How much effort is needed to make minetestserver multithreaded? Is this planned?
17:43 reactor Should estimate for the worst case.
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17:43 Menche if the beaglebone is more powerful than the pi, you could naturally expect it to handle more. that's as much as you can really predict though.
17:44 dafull97 if i get a new computer i may dedicate one to minetest or minecraft, not sure
17:44 Menche can't the minetestserver use multiple threads for map generation and loading?
17:44 Menche there's a setting for emergethreads
17:45 dafull97 really? so i could cluter them for that?
17:45 reactor I have another q. How can one speed up map loading?
17:45 Menche emergethreads?
17:46 reactor I thought the option only affected map generation.
17:46 Menche higher max_block_send_server_total and max_block_send_per_client values?
17:46 Menche and max_block_send_range
17:47 reactor Oh.
17:47 Ritchie_ Menche: yes, mapgen can be multithreaded, in minetest.conf is something for it but it does buggy caves
17:48 dafull97 i am getting a raspberry pi, i may dedicate it to minetest to get better optimized servers
17:48 dafull97 so it isnt as heavy of a load
17:49 Ritchie_ but I would like to have minetestserver itself multithreaded because for example mesecons or moving water can do high cpu load
17:49 reactor max_block_send_distance = 300
17:49 reactor Is that okay?
17:50 Menche i have it set to 3 :P
17:50 Ritchie_ all newer computers have multi core cpu, some servers also have several cpus
17:50 Menche block = 16x16x16 nodes
17:50 dafull97 Ritchie_, i agree...
17:50 dafull97 on the multithread
17:50 * Menche 's old Pentium 4 server doesn't :(
17:51 Ritchie_ Pentium 4 has Hyper Threading
17:51 Ritchie_ Pentium 3 doesn't :P
17:51 proller now max_block_send_distance limited by ~10
17:51 reactor Why?
17:51 dafull97 proller what is that link ealier?
17:51 proller because.
17:51 reactor 10 is way too little
17:52 reactor can't see anything that way
17:52 dafull97 proller, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033
17:52 Menche that's 160 individual cubes
17:52 dafull97 is this a different enigne?
17:52 dafull97 engine*
17:52 proller patched for speeeeeed
17:52 dafull97 ok nice...
17:52 reactor proller: ?
17:52 dafull97 light load im assuming?
17:53 proller on last test we have 130+ clients in one server
17:53 dafull97 proller, wow nice!
17:53 dafull97 how much could a raspberry pi handle in worst conditions?
17:53 proller 30 on my odroid is ok
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17:53 proller 10-20
17:53 dafull97 nice
17:54 dafull97 and beagle bone Black?
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17:58 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1000
17:59 dafull97 and beagle bone Black? <-- proller
18:00 proller wat?
18:00 dafull97 how many could it support prob?
18:00 proller dont know
18:00 dafull97 ok thx
18:00 thexyz it deserves the get
18:01 Menche who owns one of and hosts a server from every single single-board computer ever made??
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18:03 proller i have openmoko, it slower than pi in 50 times, i can try to run server.. but hours for compiling...
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18:04 dafull97 wow, that sucks
18:04 Jordach yay
18:05 Jordach auto login with xfce4 works
18:05 dafull97 im thinking raspberry pi's for minetest and my old computer(soon) with minecraft
18:05 thexyz proller: why hours? can't you cross compile?
18:07 proller learning how to cross-compile take hours too ;)
18:09 dafull97 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=​&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&​amp;ved=0CC4QFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mybit​box.com%2F2013%2F03%2Farm-cross-compiling-in-5-m​inutes%2F&amp;ei=tm6CUuWlJoiGkQeiqoHQAg&amp;usg=​AFQjCNECMZBTXPGbqRpmYe76647SouiIcQ&amp;sig2=ONDF​nXFVLDkUAqmOzv7AWA&amp;bvm=bv.56146854,d.eW0
18:09 dafull97 go there ^
18:09 dafull97 prolelr
18:09 dafull97 proller*
18:09 kaeza rubenwardy, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Sc​reenshot%20from%202013-11-12%2016%3A08%3A39.png
18:09 * Menche wonders why you use a google link redirecting to another site
18:09 Menche http://www.mybitbox.com/2013/03/a​rm-cross-compiling-in-5-minutes/
18:10 rubenwardy nice
18:10 proller dafull97, what about all needed libs?
18:10 Menche ^^ same link
18:10 * dafull97 used right click copy link address
18:10 PilzAdam dafull97, dont use google
18:10 Menche a.k.a. you didn't actually look at the site
18:10 dafull97 Menche, exactly haha
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18:11 Menche https://duckduckgo.com/    >    google
18:11 dafull97 PilzAdam what is wrong with google?
18:11 PilzAdam dafull97, https://ixquick.com/eng/protect-privacy.html
18:12 dafull97 ah, i c
18:12 dafull97 i was unaware
18:12 Menche http://donttrack.us/
18:12 rubenwardy They are just paranoid
18:13 rubenwardy I dont care if I get better ad recommendations: I block them anyway
18:13 dafull97 Menche, as i seen when i search programming it comes up in ads
18:13 dafull97 like schools
18:13 dafull97 webhost and more
18:13 dafull97 =/
18:13 Menche http://dontbubble.us/
18:14 Menche plus ddg has useful 0-click info boxes
18:15 PilzAdam rubenwardy, its not about ads only, read http://donttrack.us/
18:15 dafull97 yea, that is weird
18:16 rubenwardy So? I dont do anything on google I would not mind people watching
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18:16 rubenwardy There are bigger fish to catch
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18:16 Megaf Hi all
18:16 dafull97 hey MegaF
18:16 Megaf Have you seen Gronx here lately?
18:16 dafull97 what happend to your rpi server?
18:17 rubenwardy Well, apart from piracy
18:17 Megaf dafull97, nothing, it still running, but I pointed to URL to another place and totally forgot about my rpi
18:18 Megaf dafull97, I will fix that when I got home
18:18 PilzAdam rubenwardy, it filters the search results to only show things that you like
18:18 PilzAdam rubenwardy, read http://dontbubble.us/
18:18 Megaf PilzAdam, Hi there, how are you?
18:18 dafull97 Megaf, ok =D
18:19 Megaf dafull97, that server is pretty impressive, no crash yet
18:19 proller Megaf, can you try -next branch on pi? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033
18:19 dafull97 nice
18:19 dafull97 yes Megaf please do
18:19 dafull97 test performance for me i would like to get that
18:19 dafull97 =)
18:20 Menche hammer it with 130 bot clients :)
18:21 Megaf proller, forum still loading here, im on 3G connection, but I used  it too much, so now my  speed is quite reduced
18:22 sfan5 hm
18:22 sfan5 I might try minetest on my pi
18:22 * Menche wonders if it would be worth trying minetest on his Atom netbook again
18:23 Megaf I was writing to porllerright now
18:23 Megaf bummer
18:23 rubenwardy I might use another search engine, but I will not stop using Google all together; it is too useful
18:23 Megaf Menche, I speaking from an Asus EeePC 701, it has an Intel Celeron at 630 Mhz
18:23 Megaf Menche, with a gig of Ram only
18:24 Megaf later on I will get the latest source code and compile it here to give it a go
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18:25 Jordach kaeza, boop
18:26 Megaf sfan5, why not? It's fun anyway
18:26 kaeza Jordach, boob*
18:27 Jordach kaeza, using mint 15 with XFCE
18:29 Calinou Menche: less than 20 FPS average here //
18:29 Calinou :/
18:29 Calinou playable if you don't want to go fast
18:29 Jordach poor Calinou
18:30 Calinou rich Calinou
18:30 * Jordach looks for Mint's package manager
18:31 Menche apt-get :P
18:31 Megaf Calinou, do you run minetest on Windows?
18:31 Calinou haven't done that since 0.4.3
18:32 * Jordach removes google chrome from Mint
18:33 Jordach profile keeps corrupting :(
18:33 Megaf I find very interesting the fact that none of you play on my server. I really find that interesting =)
18:33 Megaf Jordach, I'm using the Midori Browser here
18:33 Megaf a webkit browser too
18:34 Megaf pretty nice and lightweight
18:34 Menche doesn't chrome have it's own rendering engine now?
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18:34 Megaf quiet that
18:34 Megaf Blink it is
18:38 Calinou sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
18:38 Calinou Megaf: not used yet?
18:38 Calinou or it's just a tiny fork of webkit
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18:40 Megaf Calinou, Chrome and Opera are already using Blink for a couple of release already
18:40 Megaf and it is a for of WebKit, yes
18:40 Megaf It's supposed to be more lightweight
18:43 Megaf Calinou, what CPU and GPU does your computer have?
18:44 Calinou desktop: 2600K + 570
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18:45 thexyz haha
18:45 thexyz time for daily dose of hate towards CSS
18:46 thexyz I'm not really good at swearing in English so please someone support me
18:47 thexyz but I guess our world doesn't deserve a proper markup language
18:48 thexyz where you can layout things like you want; where you don't fuck with position:relative/absolute, float, clear to only figure later that this stuff isn't supposed to work
18:48 thexyz oh hey there's a #css room
18:49 Megaf I know nothing about CSS
18:49 Megaf I once edited some for my old phpbb forum
18:49 Megaf And I found that quite non sense
18:49 Megaf no sense
18:50 VanessaE hi all
18:50 Megaf Hi VanessaE
18:50 Megaf Hows things?
18:50 VanessaE eh, things are okay
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18:51 Megaf folks, can you please explain to me whats the indev mapgen how it differs from the v6 one?
18:51 thexyz no, not even going to try
18:52 VanessaE Megaf: indev is where a lot of new stuff is worked on.  in short, it's guaranteed to break, over the long term.
18:52 Megaf VanessaE, but, is it a normal world?
18:52 Menche indev is basically v6 with some new features like floatlands
18:52 Menche most recommend it over v6
18:53 Megaf I mean, math is not, v7 seems like stones only
18:53 Megaf hm
18:53 Menche v7 requires lua biome definitions
18:53 Megaf ok, now I see
18:53 VanessaE Megaf: v7 depends on external Lua code to ...what menche said
18:53 Menche which the core devs refuse to add *cough cough*
18:54 Menche "oh, we're still working on it, can't make it usable yet"
18:54 Megaf Thanks Menche and VanessaE
18:55 Megaf Now I understand why there is not floating islands on my server
18:55 Megaf there are*
18:55 PilzAdam <Menche> "oh, we're still working on it, can't make it usable yet" <- exactly
18:55 Menche i understand they're extremely rare or high
18:56 Menche PilzAdam, why is it in the mapgen selection menu then?
18:56 VanessaE Menche: because, sapier :P
18:56 Menche it's done enough to be selectable but not done enough to be made functional?
18:56 Menche so you have a non-functional mapgen in the menu
18:57 Menche "here's a fancy new mapgen you can use but we're gonna say we're not done with it yet and intentionally keep in unfinished"
18:58 Megaf sfan5, PilzAdam, is Minetest Open Source or not?
18:58 sfan5 yes :P
18:59 Megaf I see a lot of "copyright" stuff on forums and mods
18:59 Menche copyright != closed licence
18:59 Calinou it is
19:00 Calinou LGPL for code, CC BY-SA strictest for art
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19:01 Megaf ok, I feel better now
19:01 Megaf :P
19:02 Menche it'll have copyright unless it's a public domain pseudo-licence like CC0
19:02 Megaf I have a new project now, and I expect to make some money with this projects and support minetest too
19:02 rubenwardy WTFPL, you mean!
19:03 rubenwardy ?
19:03 Menche WTFPL looks... unprofessional
19:03 Menche CC0 is more verbose
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19:06 Jordach aw
19:06 Jordach calinou has gone
19:06 Jordach :(
19:09 rubenwardy WTFPL is more free!!
19:09 Menche how?
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19:12 rubenwardy Ask PilzAdam
19:12 Megaf Hi proller
19:13 PilzAdam because you can do what the fuck you want to
19:13 Megaf welcome back
19:13 Megaf proller, I will give it a try yes
19:13 Menche how's it more free than CC0?
19:13 Megaf it seems good
19:14 proller better?
19:14 Jordach OH HELL NO
19:14 * Jordach reads #blender backlog
19:15 Jordach [19:04:47] <-- Calinou (~Calinou@unaffiliated/calinou) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
19:15 Jordach NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
19:15 Megaf O don't get it
19:15 Megaf I*
19:15 rubenwardy Quiet down, children
19:15 rubenwardy What is your new project, Megaf?
19:15 Jordach rubenwardy, tell that to Dan_D :>
19:16 rubenwardy !seen LandMine
19:16 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Sorry, I haven't seen landmine around.
19:16 rubenwardy Thank god
19:17 Menche not that he always uses that exact username
19:17 * Jordach can summon the demon
19:18 Megaf one of my favorite licenses is the Beeware
19:19 Megaf !seen Gronx
19:19 MinetestBot Megaf: gronx was last seen at 2013-11-12 00:56:43 UTC on #minetest
19:20 Megaf rubenwardy, making money having fun =)
19:21 rubenwardy swag
19:21 rubenwardy swag
19:21 rubenwardy !rainbow swag
19:21 MinetestBot 3s4wag
19:21 rubenwardy Turns out you can not copy and paste colors
19:21 Megaf !rainbow Megaf
19:21 MinetestBot 5M8e4g8af
19:21 PilzAdam rubenwardy, depends on your client
19:21 rubenwardy huh
19:21 Megaf 2MK4E7GK1AK9F
19:22 Megaf 2M4E7G1A9F
19:22 Megaf 2M4E7G1A9F
19:22 Megaf rubenwardy, ctrl + k + number to color
19:22 rubenwardy 2I am now going to write everything in this color to stand out
19:22 Megaf ctrl + b to bold
19:22 rubenwardy 2I know
19:23 Megaf 8There you are
19:23 rubenwardy I cant be bothered to do that all the time
19:24 MinetestBot I3 7l2ik8e ca7k6e
19:24 Megaf MinetestBot, do you?
19:24 rubenwardy Every so often MinetestBot starts having a mind of his own
19:26 Megaf heh
19:26 Jordach <3 MinetestBot
19:26 MinetestBot 4<​32 3J5or3da7c8h
19:26 Megaf Ok folks, time to go home!
19:26 Megaf enough of work (job) for today
19:26 Megaf cya
19:28 Jordach Sokomine, travelnet boxes have a bug: they print the travel destination twice
19:28 ShadowNinja sfan5: Perhaps put the 04<3 in bold red rather than just using a rainbow?
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19:30 Sokomine oh? are you sure?
19:30 * Sokomine shots megaf for playing with color
19:31 Jordach Sokomine, ve-survival has the bug
19:34 thexyz it's 2013, guys
19:34 * Jordach enters depression mode
19:34 Jordach GIMP 2.8
19:35 Jordach hell no.
19:35 thexyz 4❤
19:35 Menche ?
19:35 thexyz 4❥
19:36 thexyz 😍
19:36 thexyz use unicode
19:38 Jordach fuck unicode
19:40 rubenwardy How do I get the real item string from aliases?
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19:40 Fadi Hello I have a question
19:40 Menche
19:40 PilzAdam rubenwardy, ItemString("alias"):get_name() IIRC
19:40 Menche
19:40 Fadi So I'm a C#, VB.Net developer and a web developer how is it to get into this game'sm odding with my experience
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19:41 Jordach !pil Fadi
19:41 MinetestBot Fadi, someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Lua, please go to: http://lua.org/pil/
19:41 sfan5 ra
19:41 sfan5 Jordach pls
19:41 PilzAdam !dev Intro
19:41 MinetestBot "Minetest has a scripting API (Application Programming Interface), which is used to program mods (short for 'modifications') for the game, extending its features and adding new items." - http://dev.minetest.net/Intro
19:41 PilzAdam ^ Fadi
19:41 Fadi Oh*
19:41 Fadi thank you
19:41 Fadi oh that looks quite easy
19:42 sfan5 yes, Lua is quite easy
19:43 rubenwardy what does group:dye,basecolor_red mean?
19:43 rubenwardy does it mean (dye && basecolor_red)
19:43 sfan5 yes
19:43 rubenwardy ok
19:43 Fadi So my game is set to French language
19:43 Fadi how do I change that
19:43 PilzAdam Fadi, that depends on your OS
19:43 Jordach it's determined by system language
19:43 Fadi oh dang it
19:44 PilzAdam what OS do you use?
19:44 Fadi Windblows 7
19:44 PilzAdam remove the locale/fr/ folder then
19:44 PilzAdam </workaround>
19:44 Menche or build it without gettext
19:45 Fadi wouldn't that like change the main language
19:45 Fadi not of the game
19:45 Fadi but of my interface and stuff
19:45 PilzAdam Fadi, no, delete it inside the Minetest folder
19:45 PilzAdam it will only affect Minetest
19:45 Fadi Oh
19:47 Fadi From the installation I saw that there was some sort of a dev "client" strictly for mod development, where can I find thaT?
19:47 Fadi that*
19:47 PilzAdam what?
19:47 Menche ?
19:47 Menche don't think so
19:47 Jordach Fadi, the developer builds are from the latest source code
19:48 Jordach eg - not stable
19:48 Menche rather than the rather old stable code
19:48 Fadi aha
19:48 Fadi thanks
19:48 PilzAdam it doesnt affect mod development, though (when you dont want to use the latest functions)
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19:54 Menche i'm trying to make lava sources cool into minerals with different chances
19:54 Menche is there a better way than this: http://lpaste.net/95575
19:55 Menche i'm asking here because #minetest-classic is as dead as c++ mobs in 0.4
19:56 * rubenwardy is now 9th! https://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?us​ername=&amp;show_group=-1&amp;sort_by=num_​posts&amp;sort_dir=DESC&amp;search=Search
19:56 Jordach woo
19:57 Jordach Menche, lol
19:57 Jordach finally installing 2.6.12 as my gimp version
19:57 Menche isn't 2.8.something the latest?
19:58 PilzAdam Jordach, 65
19:59 Menche gimp 2.8 has single-window mode and more sensible exporting
20:03 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/gn0LCcT.png success
20:03 PilzAdam why the /query PilzAdam ?
20:04 Jordach call me old fashioned, but 2.6 works because of ctrl + shift + s = save as
20:04 Jordach ctrl + e != save as
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20:04 Menche right, it's export, not save as
20:05 Menche flat images aren't what gimp does; it does images with layers and masks and things
20:05 Menche it has to [e]xport to save as a flat image
20:07 Jordach which is bullshit
20:07 kaeza ^
20:07 Menche No.
20:07 Jordach photoshop supports ctrl + shift + s
20:08 Jordach except i came off better by pirating it - fuck creative cloud :D
20:08 Jordach ...and my passwords are safe for now >:)
20:08 Menche ...E is right next to S
20:10 Jordach Menche, it's bullshit
20:10 Jordach it also broke my workflow
20:10 Menche no.
20:11 * Menche survived
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20:11 kaeza http://xkcd.com/1172/
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20:20 Megaf hi folks
20:20 OldCoder <kaeza> http://xkcd.com/1172/
20:20 OldCoder Heh
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20:22 Jordach there we go
20:22 * Jordach is now using firefox sync
20:23 thexyz seriously? not updating gimp because of export?
20:23 Menche single-window mode was enough for me to update
20:24 thexyz yes! yes!
20:25 Jordach some people (like me) use gimp for pixel art
20:25 * Menche too
20:25 thexyz it was the most weird thing in gimp
20:25 thexyz Jordach: yes, and?
20:25 * Menche still doesn't mind export
20:25 thexyz just use another key combination
20:25 thexyz or remap it
20:26 Megaf is there a way to speed up /clearobjects?
20:26 Megaf that really takes long here
20:28 thexyz probably not
20:32 PilzAdam bye
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20:52 Megaf !seen Gronx
20:52 MinetestBot Megaf: gronx was last seen at 2013-11-12 00:56:43 UTC on #minetest
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21:36 jin_xi hello
21:36 kaeza hi
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21:40 Fadi I'm quite new to the modding api and lua, can I ask a very basic question?
21:41 Miner_48er yes
21:41 Fadi How do I make my block's name appear in the inventory gui
21:42 Menche set the description="" field in the node definition
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21:43 Fadi description = {"something"},  ? or just description="something"
21:43 Menche just a string, not a table
21:43 Fadi oh ye I just tested it
21:43 Fadi thanks
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22:37 Megaf folks, I got the latest master from github
22:37 Megaf and no one seems to be able to interact
22:37 Megaf is that a know bug?
22:39 kaeza maybe obvious; do they have interact priv?
22:39 Megaf theres some new privs, basic_privs and griefing
22:40 Megaf the heck is that?
22:40 Megaf kaeza, of course
22:40 kaeza IP:port ?
22:41 Megaf kaeza, megaf.co.vu 30003
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22:45 kaeza hmm
22:48 kaeza Megaf, did you also update minetest_game ?
22:49 Megaf kaeza, it seem like we need the griefing priv now, to interact
22:49 Megaf and yes, I also updated the minetest_game
22:50 kaeza that is new...
22:54 kaeza Megaf, where does the "griefing" priv come from?
22:55 Megaf kaeza, no idea, Im, as a server admin, just have it
22:55 Megaf I did /privs and I have that new priv
22:55 khonkhortisan it is some new mod
22:55 Megaf I think I will get the old minetest_game
22:56 khonkhortisan it remembers the ownership of nodes or area and doesn't let people change it without permissions
22:57 Megaf I think I know whats causing that
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23:00 Megaf kaeza, can you login again please? (all area from 100,-20,100 to -100,200,-100 is protected
23:01 kaeza coming
23:09 Megaf thanks kaeza
23:09 Megaf khonkhortisan, your comment here did it :)
23:09 Megaf khonkhortisan, it was the node_ownership mod
23:09 Megaf a new version that I compile that was messing things up
23:10 kaeza glad to be of help
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23:11 kaeza although this time I did nothing :P
23:11 Megaf you did a lot actually
23:12 Megaf if it wasnt you I could not have fixed the problem that quick
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23:17 Hunterx689 Ho
23:17 Hunterx689 Hi
23:17 Hunterx689 Hi
23:18 Hunterx689 Hola
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23:19 Hunterx689 Kaeza
23:20 kaeza ?
23:20 Hunterx689 Im in the net?
23:21 Hunterx689 Someone in shadow server?
23:21 kaeza Hunterx689, wrong network :P
23:23 ShadowNinja Heh.
23:24 ShadowNinja Nope, we just had all our servers go down and 80 users join while you were gone. ;-P
23:24 kaeza hah
23:25 Hunterx689 Wtf!
23:25 Hunterx689 Im on android
23:26 Hunterx689 :)
23:26 ShadowNinja Hunterx689: You joined #minetest@freenode instead of #minetest@InchraNet I beleive.
23:26 * kaeza read that as "I'm an android"
23:27 Hunterx689 No im in the android os
23:28 Hunterx689 Is the Compu channel that i found
23:29 Hunterx689 Only
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23:56 SegFault22 So about that horrible hackwork...

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