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00:09 Peacock morning!
00:14 Peacock lively as ever :P
00:14 * Peacock spikes the punch
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00:23 Peacock family values "Police arrest son in murder of New Brunswick businessman Richard Oland"
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01:10 Megaf ShadowNinja, what channel is that?  #minetest@InchraNet
01:10 Megaf is it official?
01:10 us{0gb Not official, no, but it has several Minetest servers linked to it.
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01:10 us{0gb So chatting in that channel reaches people in-game.
01:11 VanessaE in those servers so-connected, yeah
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01:32 Megaf kaeza, hm, the mod didnt work here
01:32 Megaf server wont startup
01:32 kaeza which OS?
01:32 Megaf Linux
01:32 Megaf but i didnt follow the instructions
01:32 Megaf I did cmake . and then make
01:33 kaeza can you pastebin the error?
01:33 Megaf then copied the irc folder to the mods folder
01:33 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/65550/
01:34 kaeza huh? O_o
01:34 kaeza that is weird
01:34 Megaf $ ls ../games/minetest_game/mods/irc/
01:34 Megaf API.txt  botcmds.lua  callback.lua  chatcmds.lua  config.lua  ftp.lua  hooks.lua  http.lua  init.lua  irc  libluasocket.so  LICENSE.txt  ltn12.lua  messages.lua  mime.lua  player_part.lua  README.txt  smtp.lua  socket.lua  tp.lua  url.lua  util.lua
01:35 kaeza oh wait...
01:36 kaeza cd minetest-irc ; git submodule update --init
01:36 kaeza then make and copy again
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01:36 Megaf so we really need that gitty thing?
01:36 Menche Yes.
01:36 Megaf well, gonna leave that for tomorrow then
01:36 Megaf ran out of time
01:37 Megaf good night folks, thanks for everything
01:37 kaeza if not you'll have to download the extra stuff separately
01:37 kaeza aww :(
01:37 kaeza good night :)
01:37 Peacock weird, i just got a wrong password error eventhough i didn't set one for my test map lol
01:39 Peacock lol http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/image​s/newsfeed/000/198/592/halolz-dot-​com-minecraft-steves-backpack.jpg
01:40 VanessaE ha!
01:40 Menche Sam has an even bigger backpack, with 99 to a stack instead of 64
01:41 Peacock jesus lol
01:41 Peacock i always thought it was weird though that hte player inv is as big as the chest's, is the game implying im that fat?
01:41 VanessaE and that's without the bags mod :P
01:41 VanessaE with, multiply that by roughly 21
01:42 Peacock lol why not just play creative if people wanna carry everything around?
01:43 khonkhortisan I'd like to see a backpack mod that adds nodes like that to the character
01:43 VanessaE hah
01:43 Peacock lol thats alot of entities
01:44 VanessaE while probably doable, it's also fucking insane :D
01:44 khonkhortisan I can imagine people strolling the streets with these giant things behind them
01:45 Menche have to dump stuff to go through a door or narrow opening
01:46 Menche spam 'Q' -> entire backpack reduced to one nodeful of little spinning object stacks
01:46 khonkhortisan that's version two, where the backpack squishes into a bottleneck with the items rearranging themselves as you go through the doorway
01:46 Menche ->  break mouse picking it all up
01:47 khonkhortisan Then when you go through a door placed sideways on a cliff, half the backpack is on each side, holding you up
01:48 Menche if you walk off a cliff you are left hanging helplessly to your massive backpack
01:49 VanessaE suddenly:  item_drop  ;)
01:49 khonkhortisan Then there would be a trap where there's this giant hole in the ground, that funnels down so the only way to get through it is to drop all your stuff, but there's a filter at the bottom that catches players, so someone can steal from you
01:50 Menche how hard would it be to make the player's speed slower for each filled inventory slot?
01:50 Menche to simplify things, only solid nodes would be counted
01:51 Menche when the inventory is filled, your are so encumbered you can no longer mine more
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02:00 khonkhortisan So you'd mine until you couldn't anymore, and drop something every once in a while, or you'd fill a few slots with non-solid nodes so it won't fill up completely
02:01 Peacock well you'd think with a full inventory players would lose some HP from lugging all that stuff around :P
02:02 Peacock i did some landscaping and carrying dirt and rolls of grass around as helluva more tiring than other jobs carrying smaller things around
02:07 ShadowNinja Menche: I beleive you can use set_physics_override.
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02:52 jajafreak yo
02:52 jajafreak hello
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03:56 paramat captcha was 'oweesin position'
03:59 paramat *tumbleweed*
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04:00 paramat *desolate wind*
04:03 VanessaE heh
04:04 paramat aha a human!
04:04 VanessaE BOO!
04:05 Peacock this place is always desolate nightime EST lol
04:07 paramat ive been wondering if there is performance advantage to not having 2 textures on the side of grass nodes (default_dirt^default_grass_side) but just a new single texture ... ?
04:08 Peacock thats what ive been doing for awhile
04:08 * paramat has suggestions in store for minetest game =/
04:08 VanessaE I need testers.  Anyone feel like testing stuff for me? :)
04:09 us}0gb VanessaE: It depends. I'm exhausted, so only if it's not a huge effort.
04:09 * us}0gb can't go to sleep and might as well do something
04:09 VanessaE us}0gb: I just need someone to pull the latest HDX and the latest git of minetest and try a sign-on test for me.
04:09 VanessaE HDX 256 or 512 requried.
04:10 Peacock cant, working on a glass computer http://s21.postimg.org/6fi58c​qh3/screenshot_1336300378.png
04:10 paramat ah that counts me out, dont understand :)
04:10 us}0gb VanessaE: I don't think my system can even handle that. But I can try.
04:11 paramat nice poot
04:11 VanessaE paramat, us}0gb, clone this:  git@github.com:VanessaE/hdx-512.git  or this  git@github.com:VanessaE/hdx-256.git
04:12 us}0gb Okay, downloading that and compiling Minetest ....
04:13 VanessaE us}0gb:   you use us_0gb as an in-game nick, right?  I forget
04:13 us}0gb I use 0gb_us, but my password was lost due to a misunderstanding.
04:14 us}0gb I'll find a new name.
04:14 VanessaE it's okay
04:14 VanessaE it doesn't matter what, I just need to know ahead of time
04:17 Peacock the computer is supposed to control forcefields, shields and power distributors, so far it's been a PITA just getting it to look right lol
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04:18 us_0gb Sorry, laptop battery died.
04:19 us_0gb I wonder if that damaged my compiling Minetest ....
04:19 VanessaE you'll probably wanna make clean, yeah
04:20 Peacock lol
04:20 us_0gb Whenever I use "make clean", it doesn't clean it properly, and then "cmake" fails on me.
04:21 VanessaE weird
04:22 Menche rm -rf ./* && git reset --hard
04:22 VanessaE that works too
04:22 us_0gb The computer says it will take two hours to download that texture pack. That should give me time to find a name, ha ha.
04:22 VanessaE lol
04:23 VanessaE just use us_0gb if you don't mind.  it's important :)
04:23 VanessaE for this particular server I mean
04:23 us_0gb Fine, fine.
04:24 * us_0gb grumbles about his name being mangled
04:24 VanessaE heh, this ain't permanent :_)
04:24 Peacock is it normal that use_texture_alpha on plain nodes makes it completely invisible? for nodeboxes and glasslike drawtypes it's fine
04:24 us_0gb You're erasing this world?
04:25 us_0gb Minetest is all set.
04:25 VanessaE us_0gb: not exactly.  this is a backup copy of the current Realtest world, but it won't persist beyond these and a few more tests
04:25 us_0gb Or it isn't set ..... No such file or directory.
04:25 * us_0gb checks manually
04:26 us_0gb Minetest is missing. Minetest Server is not.
04:27 us_0gb Fixing ...
04:27 VanessaE make sure it can find irrlicht
04:27 paramat P, no idea :)
04:27 VanessaE otherwise it acts...weird.
04:28 us_0gb Hold on, I need to look up Minetest's Git file address.
04:31 us_0gb While I'm waiting for these downloads .... What are we looking for in your world? Missing textures?
04:31 paramat Peacock, i just tried normal drawtype for comet atmosphere and the comet itself disappeared 8/
04:32 Peacock thats what i thought
04:32 Peacock yar mateys! we found ourselves a bug!
04:38 * us_0gb is worried his battery will die again
04:38 VanessaE us_0gb: a client crash.
04:38 VanessaE I wanna see if this test crashes or hangs your client.
04:39 paramat not a bug in my case, the meshes are not created because the comet plus atmosphere is considered solid (?) occlusion culling?
04:40 us_0gb Heads up: it will. But for graphics card reasons, most likely.
04:40 * us_0gb would love to be proved wrong though
04:41 us_0gb Compiling ....
04:41 Peacock *evil grin* force fields http://s7.postimg.org/nzvmxpp​mj/screenshot_1338184445.png
04:42 us_0gb Ha ha, nice.
04:42 paramat nice lights too
04:44 Peacock well the lights are pretty basic neons, though all the power items receive energy wirelessly
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05:14 hoodedice *Typos*
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05:14 hoodedice So, the online mod repo in the newest minetest build
05:15 hoodedice Where's it at?
05:16 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/
05:16 hoodedice And only the mod uploaders can add description, images blah blah?
05:17 VanessaE I think so, been a whike since I used it
05:17 VanessaE whikle*
05:17 VanessaE WHILE*****
05:17 hoodedice *Keyboards*
05:19 paramat mmm ... ive tried atmosphere nodes with alpha from 0 to 254, seems to make no difference, perhaps this is why texture alpha is used
05:21 hoodedice Hmm, on the realtest server in the newbie housing area...
05:21 hoodedice I've found a guy hogging two houses
05:21 hoodedice Like this: GFgang1's home, and GFgang2's home
05:21 hoodedice =.=
05:22 VanessaE two separate players, allegedly.
05:22 hoodedice and GFgang3 too
05:22 hoodedice XD
05:22 hoodedice Make that 3
05:23 hoodedice And he doesn't look like a newb either: Joiner table, scripting table
05:23 hoodedice ...
05:24 VanessaE I think there are four players.  GFgang{1-3} and I forget the other nick
05:25 Peacock p the difference between alpha and use_texture_alpha has always confused me too lol
05:25 Peacock i always assumed alpha was for liquids and use texture alpha for everything else
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05:32 VanessaE meh ..  bbl.  bedtime for me
06:03 Peacock diggable = false also doesn't seem to be working (nodebox forcefield node)
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06:49 hoodedice RealTest players?
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06:51 hoodedice Sokomine
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07:14 hoodedice hey corner
07:14 VanessaE hey cornernote
07:14 VanessaE welcome back?
07:17 hoodedice How come only Adam has a working v7?
07:17 VanessaE he probably has the biome mod that goes with it
07:19 hoodedice And why isn't this biome mod distributed with the latest minetest v7?
07:19 VanessaE I'm not sure
07:20 hoodedice Why do I ask so many questions?
07:22 VanessaE heh
07:26 OldCoder mrtux, cornernote wb
07:26 OldCoder hoodedice, is that recursive?
07:26 OldCoder No... I guess not
07:27 hoodedice !g recursive
07:27 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion
07:28 VanessaE woulda been funnier if the bot has said "just google it."
07:28 VanessaE :)
07:29 VanessaE had8
07:29 VanessaE had**
07:29 hoodedice XD
07:30 hoodedice Math on Wikipedia....
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08:05 hoodedice Jordach ^.^
08:12 VanessaE bbl
08:14 Jordach hai thar
08:17 Jordach okay, thee we go
08:17 Jordach ugh, my mouse pointer has corrupted via X11
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08:18 Jordach okay, it's gone
08:18 Jordach re-logging was the answer
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09:10 paramat Peacock, vrealm mod http://i.imgur.com/IurtzgP.png
09:15 Jordach fuck
09:16 Jordach hit an run by paramat
09:19 Peacock looks cool but without shifting gravity you can't do much
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09:35 Jordach and lighting too
09:38 * Jordach spotted something
09:38 Jordach >cornernote
09:38 Jordach >irc
09:38 Jordach dafuq
09:38 Peacock LOL Chinese Bitcoin Exchange Vanishes, Taking £2.5m of Coins With It
09:39 Peacock "buuut buuuut.... bitcoin is not a scam!" XD
09:39 Jordach haha
09:39 Jordach there's no point with bitcoin: too many people are interested in it
09:39 Jordach and the asic miners just piss everyone off
09:40 Peacock i do my banking through *regulated* banks
09:40 Jordach so really it's a contest of who can throw the most money at the wall for pointless non-existent money
09:41 Peacock seriously, if i wanted to make money with BTC, i wouldn't try raising funds, i'd open an exchange XD
09:41 Jordach yeah
09:41 Jordach or open a bar that uses it
09:41 Peacock "you just got madoff'd" XD
09:42 Peacock well no because in a bar people expect something in return for their BTC's
09:42 Jordach Peacock, open up a place where bitcoin is money: people will come
09:42 Jordach Peacock, then you sell that BTC
09:42 Jordach = clean profit
09:42 Peacock tell the rubes they can get rich "investing" on your exchange, and in a few months claim you were hacked, and there you go, free money
09:43 Peacock the thing with anti-establishment types is that they think they're smarter than everyone else, which makes it that much easier to take advantage of their stupidity lol
09:44 Jordach lol
09:45 * Jordach noticed that the keys on his mechanical kb are super strong
09:45 Jordach i can't even pull them off
09:45 Jordach it won't budge :P
09:45 Peacock kb ~= kilobyte?
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09:46 Jordach keyboard
09:47 Jordach is proller trolling as troller
09:47 Peacock proller == troller
09:49 Jordach we know
09:49 Peacock we, theres other people here? lol
09:49 Peacock been quiet all night
09:51 Jordach heh
09:51 Jordach we as in we *all* know that troller = proller
09:53 troller Jordach, also  prolling as proller
09:54 Peacock one other funny thing i noticed, this time on the forums: seems half the people still active there these days are either devs or moderators lol
09:54 Peacock this one thread had nothing but one or the other posting lol
09:55 Jordach troller, hah!
09:55 Jordach Peacock, we're missing that *survival* element
09:55 Jordach that's why
09:56 Jordach (which is what the main site actually says, yet the game is biased towards building)
09:58 JamesTait Good morning all; happy World Kindness Day! :-D
09:58 Peacock well tbh theres just not that much going on on the forums lately :P
09:59 Jordach that's a /amsg alright
09:59 Jordach JamesTait, /amsg ftw?
10:02 JamesTait Jordach, good gracious no!  I have to make some kind of a manual effort! ;)
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10:13 Megaf folks, my server still crashing
10:13 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/65584/
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10:20 kaeza Megaf, update farming_plus
10:20 kaeza also mornings
10:20 Megaf kaeza, I got it yesterday
10:20 Peacock can't find the latest version of "mornings" :S
10:20 Megaf good morning kaeza Peacock
10:21 kaeza Peacock, lol
10:21 kaeza Megaf, are you using Minetest stable?
10:21 Megaf kaeza, nope, I got everything again yesterday
10:22 Megaf lastest master branch of everything
10:25 kaeza Megaf, grep '\bhoe_on_use\b' -R games/minetest_game/
10:26 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/65587/
10:27 kaeza moreores
10:29 Megaf What do you mean with that?
10:29 Megaf I see
10:31 * Jordach prepares to "force" Calinou into using farming.hoe_on_use
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10:34 Peacock you wanna force calinou to use a hoe?
10:34 Peacock make sure he's got protection
10:35 Jordach ...land protection!
10:37 Jordach WOW JESUS CHRIST
10:37 Peacock another use for rubber trees right there lol
10:37 Jordach f.lux is spinning my cores to 100%
10:37 Peacock f.lux?
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10:44 Jordach would ya look at that: http://i.imgur.com/VX4Ajfm.png
10:46 Jordach my internal fans haven't silenced since flux started
10:46 Peacock and i bitch about 3% cpu usage lol
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10:47 Jordach Peacock, it was draining my system (the windows version actually works)
10:51 Peacock "f.lux fixes this: it makes the color of your computer's display adapt to the time of day, warm at night and like sunlight during the day."
10:51 Peacock such hippie bullshit lol i wonder what else it's using your CPU for
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10:53 Peacock personally i can't stand warm white any time of day lol
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11:09 Peacock LOL "British police say a spy whose naked, decomposing body was found inside a padlocked gym bag in his apartment likely died in an accident with no one else involved."
11:09 Peacock he must have slipped and broken his neck while falling into the bag XD
11:23 Jordach then *who* locked said bag
11:27 Peacock the padlock just clicked on it's own when he fell in (naked), obviously
11:33 Jordach a spy wouldn't magically die
11:33 Jordach someone probably killed him
11:34 Jordach because locks don't lock themselves
11:39 Peacock obviously lol im guessing whatever he was supposed to infiltrate, it didn't work :P
11:39 kaeza Jordach can't sarcasm
11:42 Peacock you mean he was taking me seriously about the slipping and the padlock closing on it's own?
11:42 Peacock lol
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11:43 Peacock you gotta wonder why they even bother to print such a story though, who would buy it? lol
11:43 Peacock http://bigstory.ap.org/article/pol​ice-spy-bag-probably-died-accident
11:44 Peacock http://cdn.meme.li/i/pkhvs.jpg
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11:44 Jordach and the cops were told by the secret service that it was an accident
11:46 Fadi <Fadi> Hey guys<Fadi> how do I make my block just appear as an item<Fadi> the wiki doesn't really explain much01
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11:47 kaeza Fadi, what do you mean exactly?
11:48 Fadi minetest.register_node registers my item as a block
11:48 Fadi like I want to create my own charcoal
11:48 kaeza register_craftitem
11:48 Fadi oh
11:48 Fadi thanks
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11:50 Fadi hmm now my texture won't appear
11:51 Fadi I'm using tiles = {""},
11:52 Fadi oh nevermind I saw it in the wiki
11:52 Fadi it's inventory_image :)
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12:06 GNADev|zRokh hi
12:06 Jordach SHIT RUN
12:06 GNADev|zRokh shut up Jordach, im not in the mood
12:06 Jordach ...that's what she said
12:07 Peacock shouldn't that be, running shits?
12:07 GNADev|zRokh yeah, when she was in bed with you
12:07 GNADev|zRokh but srsly....... imma get to the point: how do i know when i'm in love?
12:08 Jordach this is seriously off topic
12:09 GNADev|zRokh ok, don't answer.....
12:09 * GNADev|zRokh smells a forever alone guy
12:09 Peacock if it's your first or second cousin, it's not love, it's incest
12:09 Peacock and illegal in most states
12:09 GNADev|zRokh it is not my cousing nor is it any of my relatives...
12:10 GNADev|zRokh it's a girl i met years and years ago...
12:10 Peacock then i think that's called stalking
12:10 GNADev|zRokh ok, that's it, fuck you and that's it...
12:10 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, i happen to have a girlfriend
12:10 Peacock that's not love either
12:11 Jordach ...you should see what she makes me do most of the time :(
12:11 GNADev|zRokh srsly peacock... guess you'r name rlly says alot of you: you have a pea sized cock...
12:12 Peacock why all the interest in fucking me and knowing my size?
12:12 GNADev|zRokh it's hard listening to truth, isnt it...
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12:13 Peacock jordach well my wife doesn't *make* me do anything, but if i let her cook, i'll have food poisoning and a four-alarm fire so... lol
12:14 Jordach Peacock, hah
12:14 Jordach im told off like a dog
12:14 GNADev|zRokh like a dog? nigga, you are a bitch
12:14 Peacock you're supposed to train her, she's the [word for female dog]
12:15 Fadi is it minetest.add_item to have specified blocks spawn in the world?
12:16 Peacock minetest.add_node
12:16 Jordach oh i can submiss her Peacock - she's a dirty bitch!
12:16 Fadi aha, thanks
12:16 Peacock well i didn't say dirty, and i dont really need to know what would make her so lol
12:18 Fadi I'm trying minetest.add_node({x=0, y=10, z=0}, "frismod:friswood") it's not working
12:19 Peacock minetest.add_node({x=0, y=10, z=0}, {name="frismod:friswood"})
12:19 Fadi aha, my bad thanks
12:19 reactor 3DPABCTBYNTE
12:19 kaeza WAT
12:21 kaeza on a related note, I'd swear set_node worked with plain node names before
12:21 kaeza as Fadi wrote
12:23 Peacock really?
12:23 Peacock possibly
12:23 Peacock i learned this shit like 2 or 3 years ago lol
12:24 Peacock still use add node lol and have stubborn habit of doing minetest.env: instead of minetest. lol
12:24 kaeza it doesn't seem to work that way anymore
12:24 kaeza maybe I'm mistaken, dunno
12:24 Peacock well for me whatever works
12:29 Peacock "Politicians Wilders and Le Pen meet today to discuss plans for a right-wing populist faction of #EU Parliament" ... tea party coming to the eu lol
12:36 Jordach yup, fucking Wool is nearly 2 years of age now
12:37 Peacock wouldn't you get ropeburn from fucking wool for two years?
12:37 Jordach dammit Peacock
12:38 Jordach interesting datapoint: it's even in minetest-classic
12:38 reactor nothing is worse than fucking bones.
12:38 Peacock well mt classic backports the good shit
12:38 GNADev|zRokh kaeza, look at the pm
12:38 Jordach oh, and DM's too
12:39 Peacock i dont miss those lol
12:39 Peacock one of my first maps, while i was working a big building, a DM got to the surface and wrecked the rest of the town lol
12:40 Jordach owch
12:40 Jordach [12:05:27] <EvergreenTree> YEah, one destroyed the top of my 500 tall stone tower
12:40 reactor DM?
12:41 Jordach they're the biggest PITA in Simple Mobs, MOBF and 0.3.X
12:41 Jordach you do not know the pain of dying to one
12:41 Peacock Bronx, 1970s, "DM was here" http://thenamesplissken.webs.com/urban_dk2.jpg
12:42 Peacock oh please, you die of lag before the mob every does much damage XD
12:42 Peacock *ever
12:42 reactor What the hell is DM?
12:42 Peacock Dungeon Mistress
12:42 reactor Oh.
12:43 reactor You're into BDSM?
12:43 Peacock that's a masochist
12:45 Jordach reactor, i thought everyone knew ;)
12:45 reactor I see.
12:45 reactor Would you like to talk about that?
12:45 Jordach aw hell no
12:46 reactor Does something make you uncomfortable to talk about that?
12:46 * Jordach wants to sort his inventory out
12:46 reactor Your inventory?
12:46 Jordach minetest @ VE-Survival
12:47 kaeza reactor, the joke about imitating ELIZA is getting old and boring, care to renew a bit pl0x? kthxbai
12:47 reactor You're old.
12:47 Peacock wtf is eliza? lol
12:47 reactor And aighty.
12:48 kaeza Peacock, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
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12:48 Peacock ELIZA was written at MIT by Joseph Weizenbaum between 1964 and 1966.
12:48 Peacock that's older than i am lol
12:49 Peacock oddly enough, chatbots haven't gotten much better since
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13:07 Megaf I think my RPi server is back
13:08 reactor Good.
13:09 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.org 30001
13:09 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.org:30001 is up (415ms)
13:10 Megaf megaf@RaspberryPi:~$ uptime
13:10 Megaf 11:10:33 up 28 days, 14:57,  1 user,  load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.10
13:11 reactor Megaf: they give no-ip.org hosts for free?
13:11 reactor Last time I tried, only .biz onese were free -_-
13:12 dafull97 Megaf, RPi server back?
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13:16 thexyz how's no-ip better than freedns.afraid.org?
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13:18 dafull97 i think no-ip isnt that good, considering they log all traffic out of your server =/
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13:22 dafull97 as i see freedns dont look like they do, =/
13:23 Jordach there's no reason to be afraid of afraid.org
13:24 reactor dafull97: I would call bullshit on that.
13:24 reactor How can a site providing DNS monitor your traffic?
13:25 thexyz hm... no-ip's free plan sucks it seems
13:25 dafull97 i have no clue, but i am assuming through there client you have to download for it to work?
13:25 reactor You're clueless.
13:25 reactor The client is not mandatory.
13:25 reactor There are open alternatives to it.
13:25 dafull97 really?
13:25 thexyz and freedns' free plan shares your domain with the rest of the world
13:25 reactor inadyn(1)
13:25 dafull97 i always thought it was require
13:26 dafull97 and why call names?
13:26 reactor Sorry.
13:26 reactor It's sickening to listen to some people.
13:27 dafull97 you should honestly go play in traffic, your the only one that has been a jerk since i have joined #minetest
13:27 thexyz it's sad
13:27 thexyz it's sad that no op gives a shit about rules written in the /topic
13:28 Peacock well if you kick one of the two, you're left with one person talking to themselves lol
13:28 reactor I can not stand trying to be nice to people one can not stand.
13:28 reactor It was nice talking to you, dafull97.
13:29 dafull97 thexyz, it is... listen to him he always talks down to me look in the logs
13:29 thexyz Peacock: but the quality of conversation will improve which is good
13:29 dafull97 reactor, by calling someone clueless?
13:29 reactor Besides, I do know better what I should.
13:31 dafull97 reactor, what are you meaning by this - there are several interpretations
13:31 reactor Peacock: ...until that person notices the opponent has been removed.
13:32 Peacock i say grab some popcorn and take bets on who makes who cry first :P
13:32 thexyz http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/
13:32 thexyz peace
13:33 dafull97 thexyz, who said bullying? he just talks to me like... crap.
13:33 pitriss reactor: put dafull97 into ignore or do it like i do.. just don't read his messages
13:33 reactor pitriss: I just did that.
13:33 reactor 19:28 < reactor> It was nice talking to you, dafull97.
13:34 dafull97 -_- .... i am like minetest IRC less and less
13:34 pitriss reactor: okay;)
13:34 thexyz dafull97: I just thought that's related.
13:34 Peacock the best example they can come up with lol http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/images/2.jpg
13:34 Peacock anyone running a font that big deserves at least a little teasing lol
13:35 reactor Yes.
13:35 Peacock "Bullying on IRC is a very serious problem and can not only depress people but even drive them into suicide! " how do such people deal with real life?
13:35 pitriss Peacock: +1
13:35 reactor The sad part about such people as dafull97 is they make me look like a jerk.
13:36 reactor Peacock: exactly.
13:36 dafull97 reactor, i am not trying to...
13:36 pitriss Peacock: such ppl should stick with facebook..
13:36 Peacock naw just saying, ive had some much shittier bosses/coworkers than the types i've had to put up with on IRC, and it hasn't driven me "into" suicide (shouldn't that be *to* suicide?)
13:36 reactor Yeah really.
13:36 pitriss dafull97: he put you into ignore.. is pointless to write to reactor
13:37 dafull97 pitriss, ok thx
13:37 reactor I'm sorry, but that's the only way to deal with people like you, dafull97.
13:37 Peacock besides "bullying" on IRC is often a two way street, people take it and dish it out at the same time
13:38 dafull97 pitriss, please relay this message to him.... " i am not trying to make you seem that way... i was trying to hold a convo... maybe a misunderstanding?
13:38 thexyz dafull97: I see. There should be something done about how this channel is operated. I feel like ops don't give a single shit anymore. I don't understand then why are they even ops in this case.
13:38 Peacock heh, playing telephone now
13:38 pitriss dafull97: sorry i'm not proxy server
13:39 thexyz maybe ops should be voiced? to at least know who's who
13:39 Peacock we have more moderators than ops, and the boards get less action lol
13:39 Peacock op some of the moderators and make sure all the timezones are covered
13:40 dafull97 pitriss, thx anyway...
13:40 dafull97 thexyz, i do... they should do somthing anyway
13:40 thexyz Peacock: what about the boards? all reports get processed
13:41 Peacock naw just saying, more moderators than ops, but irc is busier, so maybe op some of the mods
13:41 Peacock just a thought
13:42 Peacock unless they already are, i know jdach and kaza were around most of the night
13:42 thexyz there are more ops than moderators actually
13:43 thexyz /msg ChanServ access #minetest list
13:43 Peacock really? damn lol where they at
13:51 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=117951#p117951
13:52 Peacock before helping him with MT we should show him what a caps lock key looks like XD
13:54 dafull97 LOL, Peacock
13:54 Jordach mauvebic for Moderator
13:54 Peacock jordach i already said i'm not a masochist
13:54 Peacock wait, did the guy reply to and quote himself? lol
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13:57 reactor o/ AspierMint
14:00 dafull97 troller is proller?
14:00 troller proller is troller
14:01 dafull97 dang i didnt know that
14:01 dafull97 i liked proller, troller was annoying at times =P
14:01 dafull97 well same people hhaha
14:04 AspireMint \o reactor
14:04 Peacock regeneration time, ttyl
14:04 reactor I am not waiting to receive your limp penis.
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14:07 Fadi So I'm trying to get my wood block to form as a tree but I don't know what to use and the wiki isn't really that helpful any ideas?01
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14:12 kaeza Fadi, see spawn_tree
14:13 kaeza unless I misunderstood your question
14:14 Fadi I don't want to just spawn a regular tree
14:14 Fadi but how to form a tree with my block
14:15 EvergreenTree You mean place a block and a tree spawns from it?
14:15 kaeza Fadi, spawn_tree can be used to create tree-like structures with any node
14:25 reactor A tree of bones.
14:30 * Jordach grumbles at firefox
14:30 Jordach it keeps resetting my settings on "do not complain that im closing multiple tabs"
14:30 reactor Jordach: deprecate that crap
14:30 kaeza failfox*
14:30 reactor It won't be long till it becomes more bloated than Windows.
14:31 Jordach it's the one thing that doesnt work
14:31 reactor Yes.
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14:35 Jordach new profile image get
14:37 Jordach >A Minetest mod that adds Pokémon rods. Currently, they only catch gold lumps.
14:37 Jordach Free gold!
14:37 reactor Rods?
14:38 Fadi minetest.register_ore for scattering the ore around and stuff right?
14:38 Jordach Fadi, yup
14:38 Fadi thanks
14:42 * Jordach thinks we need a Magic 8 Ball which MinetestBot can use to resolve situations
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14:43 dafull97 Hey guys
14:44 kaeza Jordach, a crystal ball would be useful too
14:44 kaeza hi dafull97
14:44 * Fadi thinks we need an advanced artifical AI to answer mod related questions
14:44 * dafull97 is in ISS
14:45 kaeza ISS?
14:45 dafull97 In School Suspension
14:45 kaeza thought you were on the International Space Station :P
14:45 dafull97 hahaha, lol
14:45 dafull97 meaning that i cannot goto class
14:46 Jordach dafuq - my magic 8 ball's screen is covered in muck
14:46 kaeza because you haven't defined that label!
14:46 reactor Fadi: what are you looking at?!
14:46 reactor I am not an AI.
14:47 Jordach (on the inside!)
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14:48 Fadi wb reactor
14:48 Fadi I'm looking at creating a tree using my wooden block
14:48 Fadi the one in my mod that I'm working on
14:49 Jordach Fadi, like a sapling
14:51 sfan5 hi everyone
14:51 kaeza hi sfa
14:51 kaeza +n
14:52 reactor Hi sfan5.
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14:53 Fadi Jordach what?
14:55 kaeza Fadi, perhaps if you are more clear in what you mean by "creating a tree" we could help you
14:55 Fadi I can't explain more than that
14:55 Fadi you know in the world generation
14:55 Fadi trees generate with normal wooden blocks
14:55 kaeza I already told you spawn_tree can be used for that
14:55 reactor And?
14:55 dafull97 Megaf, you here?
14:55 Fadi I'd love to know how to change that block to be mine
14:55 Fadi oh
14:56 Fadi I didn't notice
14:56 reactor You should think before you type.
14:56 reactor ...or are you using Winblows.
14:56 Fadi Windblows
14:59 reactor s/\.$/?/
15:00 Fadi So my stuff is erroring, where can I find this debug.txt? It doesn't appear in my mod folder
15:00 kaeza either in the root of the minetest folder or in bin/
15:00 reactor In your server's directory.
15:00 Fadi it's in the bin, thanks
15:02 reactor Mkay.
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15:07 IceCraft hi
15:08 Jordach hai IceCraft
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15:11 Jordach thexyz, are you proud: http://imgur.com/gallery/A0b2WZj
15:12 IceCraft how are you Jordach
15:13 Jordach alright
15:14 kaeza yey Jordach forked fsd
15:15 Jordach phe
15:15 Jordach phew*(
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15:15 Fadi btw can mods be read as compiled lua scripts? like .luac
15:15 kaeza Fadi, they can
15:15 Fadi ooh nice
15:16 kaeza but you must still name the init file "init.lua"
15:16 proller Jordach, now you cant buy ever non-alcoholic beer after 23pm
15:16 Fadi ye I noticed when fiddling with it
15:18 Fadi my textures are so awful lol
15:18 kaeza don't know if luajit supports compiled bytecode from plain Lua though
15:19 kaeza so you may run into some problems with that
15:21 kaeza ~> echo "print 'Hello'" > aa.lua ; luac5.1 -o aa.lc aa.lua ; luajit aa.lc # luajit: aa.lc: cannot load incompatible bytecode
15:24 Jordach kaeza, lol, oneliners
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15:24 kaeza :)
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15:44 dafull97 Megaf, you here?
15:44 dafull97 lol i seen you join just not sure if you are here, here
15:44 Megaf heh
15:45 Megaf Yes I am
15:45 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.org 30003
15:45 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.org:30003 seems to be down
15:45 Megaf oops
15:45 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.org 30001
15:45 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.org:30001 is up (340ms)
15:45 Megaf dafull97, thats my RPi
15:45 dafull97 yay!
15:45 dafull97 lol\
15:47 dafull97 did you try the https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033      <-- Megaf
15:48 Megaf havent had time(another kind of time) yet
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15:51 dafull97 ohh, ok...
15:52 reactor Owned?
15:56 Megaf it takes REALLY long to compile Minetest server on a RPi
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15:57 thexyz cross compile
15:58 Megaf I'm not sure if I can compile it right that way
15:59 Megaf That did not work for me, even with the same architecture
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16:23 john_minetest Hello everykitten
16:26 harrison i have something to say about the rat in minetest
16:26 harrison the rat which wanders around
16:27 harrison i miss the original rat which was a 2d sprite
16:27 harrison i liked that better than the modern 3d type rat
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16:28 ShadowNinja harrison: That is added by simple mobs/mobf. You can revert the appropriate commit if you like.
16:28 ShadowNinja (Or change it manually)
16:29 harrison oh, i am sure that is true. i was just saying. do you agree or disagree with my aesthetic judgement?
16:30 ShadowNinja harrison: I disagree.
16:30 harrison i thought i would be in a minority on this
16:30 harrison it may be nostalgia
16:31 harrison the first time i encountered the (old 2d) rat i followed it and fell in to a cave pit
16:31 ShadowNinja In fact I would like if item entities used the "weilditem"(3D) drawtype instead of "sprite".
16:31 harrison very memorable
16:31 ShadowNinja Heh.
16:32 harrison i suspected it of acting intentionally but then decided it moved randomly
16:32 ShadowNinja In fact ^ was done. But it was reverted, I don't know why.
16:33 harrison i modified it to use a different image and used it with a building script (or code -- i don't think it was lua) to place blocks and build stuff
16:34 harrison i may have a movie of that
16:34 harrison it seems i don't
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16:43 VanessaE ShadowNinja: imho dropped items would look 10000x better as a wielditem that rotates like blocks do.
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16:44 VanessaE having them always face the camera as sprites do now is very disorienting
16:46 Megaf folks, I compiled the Minetest Client only here on my EeePC 701, it got a Celeron at 630 MHz and a Gig of RAM,
16:46 Megaf surprisingly it runs pretty well
16:47 Megaf problem is, its a small screen, 7" 800x640
16:47 Megaf how can I make the minetest UI smaller?
16:54 ShadowNinja kaeza: You can use "luac -o aa.luac aa.lua && luajit -b aa.lua aa.luajitc" Then check which one is being used by, eg, trying "require('ffi')" in a pcall and using dofile on the appropriate file. But it all blows up if they have a different architechture(Although you could compile for multiple platforms and check env variables, ffi, or something like that).
16:55 ShadowNinja So you *can* make your code really hard to modify, but it won't be any faster and will be very difficult to do well.
16:55 ShadowNinja Fadi: ^
17:00 Fadi o thanks
17:11 ShadowNinja Fadi: Actually LuaJIT bytecode works on all platforms that LuaJIT supports. And Lua bytecode only has issues with word size I beleive, so three compiled files(Lua32, Lua64, and LuaJIT) aught to do.
17:12 Megaf ShadowBot, kaeza, any idea how to scale down the minetest UI?
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17:16 ShadowBot Megaf: No.
17:16 kaeza lol
17:17 kaeza no idea, sorry
17:18 Megaf 15 FPS
17:18 Megaf not bad
17:18 Megaf Debians perfomance is quite impressive on any machine
17:19 Megaf I got 2 fps on a Pentium D with a nvidia 9400, running windows 7
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17:22 hoodedice Sokomine
17:29 VanessaE bbl
17:30 Leoneof :d
17:30 VanessaE Fadi: the shortest answer:  We don't advocate bytecode, so don't use it.  Use open source.
17:30 * VanessaE wanders off
17:31 Jordach Fadi, the best responce you'll get is a mod that will never get to go to the releases section
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17:36 hoodedice So...
17:36 hoodedice Anyone knows anything about this Qt?
17:39 Sokomine er, yes, hoodedice? don't have too much time right now
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17:41 Jordach nuuuu
17:45 hoodedice Sokomine: I just need DanDucombe's contact details if you have em
17:46 Jordach hoodedice, mods can get user emails
17:46 hoodedice *Psst* You know what to do
17:46 Leoneof hoodedice: Qt?
17:46 hoodedice Qt framework
17:46 Leoneof why you want to know about Qt? is minetest made by Qt?
17:46 hoodedice That thing used in Ubuntu touch and Sailfish OS
17:46 Leoneof ha
17:46 hoodedice No, was just asking
17:47 Leoneof join #qt
17:47 hoodedice -.-
17:47 hoodedice I wanted to ask it from a 'can minetest be ported to sailfishos' perspective
17:47 Leoneof ok ok :]
17:47 Jordach btw, got a new skin: http://i.imgur.com/nxvTuyD.png
17:47 Sokomine hoodedice: no, i don't have any. but if you go to any of vanessas servers and say anything on irc, it's very likely he'll listen. you can also go to shadowninjas or kaezas server. they all share the same irc channel
17:48 leo_rockway hoodedice: Qt is C++, Minetest is C++.
17:48 * leo_rockway waves at the channel
17:48 Sokomine i don't know if dan can do that
17:49 hoodedice How do I connect to this 'irc on server'?
17:49 Sokomine better ask such a question on this channel or on #dev, hoodedice. i don't think dan has that knowledge
17:49 Jordach (if anyone's web cache happens to update, my user avatar has changed!)
17:49 hoodedice I wasn't gonna ask dan about Qt lol
17:49 hoodedice something else
17:49 hoodedice leo_rockway: What is that supposed to mean?>
17:50 hoodedice Nice skin Jordach
17:50 Sokomine hoodedice: it's on irc.inchra.net in #minetest. or you just join any of vanessas or shadowninjas or kaezas server
17:50 Jordach interesting fact: i based it from a 3DS game i play
17:51 hoodedice Sokomine: I'm not on ubuntu atm...
17:52 hoodedice Should I connect in-game?
17:53 ShadowNinja Double-posting? How about quintuple-posting: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6761
17:53 Fadi Sorry guys and ye thanks for the suggestions, was busy
17:54 hoodedice "can anyone comment please?i like comment's."
17:54 hoodedice roflmao
17:55 thexyz ShadowNinja: and you're irritated by that why exactly?
17:55 thexyz 1 post per month isn't that much, right?
17:55 hoodedice Because the instigator is a 12 yr old?
17:55 Jordach i'm considering moving it to trash
17:55 Jordach anyone else agree
17:55 ShadowNinja thexyz: I'm not irritated, I just found it funny.
17:55 thexyz alright, sorry then
17:56 thexyz I hope some people read my signature
17:56 hoodedice Disagree
17:56 hoodedice You are breaking a 12-yr old's heart
17:56 hoodedice XD
17:56 Jordach well, there's nothing truly contributed
17:57 Jordach and it makes the rest of the forums look untidy
17:57 Sokomine hoodedice: what does that have to do with ubuntu? it's just another irc server :-) you can either connect with a standard irc client to that server/network or join any of the minetest servers that share their chat with that irc channel
17:57 hoodedice Indeed.
17:57 Sokomine plenty of ways to talk there :-)
17:57 hoodedice I don't have an irc client on windows, too lazy to download XD
17:58 thexyz eh; I still feel like that the person who chooses our forum moderators sometimes makes mistakes
17:58 Sokomine how are you talking here then? with such an ugly web interface?
17:58 * Sokomine throws an irc client at hoodedice :-)
17:59 harrison don't tase me bro!
17:59 * Jordach tases harrison
17:59 hoodedice Yes. Ugly web interface
17:59 Jordach you asked for it.
17:59 harrison ow
17:59 ShadowNinja Jordach: I beleive that you should leave it, it isn't causing trouble.
17:59 Sokomine thexyz: hm. there's not that much moderation going on i think. or perhaps i missed something. of course there is the regular spam that's taken care of by the mods, and that's fine
17:59 Jordach ShadowNinja, alright
17:59 thexyz wow, in Russia nexus 5 costs just about twice its price! so cheap
17:59 leo_rockway hoodedice: that you could try compiling Minetest.
18:00 thexyz Sokomine: okay, I'll complain about ops then
18:00 Sokomine hoodedice: there have to be useable irc clients for windows. anything ought to be better than the web interface...
18:00 hoodedice Compiling mietest is a headache which I'm leaving for next to next year
18:00 thexyz it seems that ops don't care about this channel; neither they do anything helpful when there's a conflict going on
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18:00 hoodedice I have about 15 days of Windows use remaining
18:00 Sokomine thexyz: poor ops :-) they're no ops most of the time i think...
18:00 hoodedice HI PilzAdam
18:00 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
18:00 harrison 15 too many
18:00 thexyz Sokomine: that's a problem too
18:00 Jordach hello PilzAdam
18:01 thexyz it's hard for a newcomer to know who's op here
18:01 Sokomine ah. ok. so not much use in getting win equipped then
18:01 hoodedice Cause next to next year, I'll be in Year 2 of University
18:01 thexyz maybe they should be always voiced? like in #freenode
18:01 Sokomine that's true, thexyz
18:01 Jordach !voice
18:01 Jordach done.
18:01 thexyz I mean +V or whatever
18:01 Jordach :.
18:01 reactor !title
18:01 MinetestBot reactor: is minetest avalible for the dsi? (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetest Forums
18:01 thexyz how's that even called
18:01 Jordach oh well, i'll just join and do it
18:01 hoodedice What's that? lemme try!
18:01 reactor MinetestBot: not descriptive enough.
18:01 harrison in #spasim we have a radical allops policy
18:01 thexyz meh, at least pm the bot or something
18:01 hoodedice +!Voice
18:02 hoodedice !voice
18:02 reactor #spasm?
18:02 thexyz no voice for you
18:02 hoodedice lol
18:02 reactor Are you trying to relieve cramps?
18:02 harrison #spasim
18:02 hoodedice I'm dumb then
18:02 Jordach reactor, stop with the ELIZA
18:02 reactor I'm not even doing it now.
18:02 harrison Can you tell me more about that?
18:02 reactor You need to stop thinking I'm going ELIZA on you.
18:03 thexyz wait, you mean reactor is not actually reactor but a bot? isn't that a bit too rude?
18:03 Megaf !voice
18:03 Megaf lol
18:03 reactor I have wo wonder, have you had any repetitive tnoughts beside that lately?
18:03 hoodedice You're dumb too Megaf
18:03 harrison Why do you say that you need to stop thinking I'm going ELIZA on you?
18:04 reactor We were discussing you -- not me.
18:04 reactor Etc.
18:04 Megaf hoodedice, Am I?
18:04 harrison This is fascinating! Do go on!
18:04 hoodedice You no have Voice, Megaf
18:04 hoodedice XD
18:05 ShadowNinja thexyz: I've waited over a week after sending that PM on the forum now...
18:05 reactor I'm not sure I understand you fully, harrison.
18:05 thexyz ShadowNinja: what PM?
18:05 Megaf meh, why do people need more than one core and more than 1000 MHz?
18:06 reactor Megaf: there is never enough processing power.
18:06 * Megaf using a Celeron @ 630 MHz
18:06 harrison Yes, I think we can all agree to that!
18:06 hoodedice Because Minetest.
18:06 reactor Megaf: once you start doing computational physics, you'll realise that.
18:06 ShadowNinja thexyz: The one about the other user on the furum with the "ShadowNinja" username.
18:06 thexyz ShadowNinja: and?
18:06 Megaf hoodedice, I play Minetest here, no problem at all
18:06 reactor Megaf: old machines are fine as personal servers, though.
18:07 hoodedice Ah, forgot the Celeron
18:07 Megaf reactor, heh, then I will use a GPU and OpenCL for that
18:07 hoodedice And maybe you have a GPU too?
18:07 thexyz ShadowNinja: if you want to talk about nickname drop then ask celeron
18:07 thexyz I'm not into politics
18:07 Megaf hoodedice, Intel 915 GMA
18:07 ShadowNinja thexyz: As I said it isn't a drop.
18:07 hoodedice =)
18:07 reactor Megaf: so?
18:07 hoodedice Must be plenty of ram then?
18:07 hoodedice *RAM
18:07 Megaf OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
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18:08 harrison Unfortunately, one's lack of interest in politics does not imply that politics is uninterested back.
18:08 reactor E-penis?
18:08 Megaf total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
18:08 Megaf Mem:          1001        907         94          0         68        527
18:08 reactor harrison: I heard that one somewhere.
18:08 thexyz ShadowNinja: alright, you can talk about this thing to celeron55, you could've started talking already if you didn't complain to me about the terminology
18:08 reactor harrison: been attending philosophy lately?
18:08 harrison No, I did my time long ago.
18:09 reactor Mk.
18:09 hoodedice 1 GB
18:09 * Jordach has noticed why his Mint runs like thunder
18:09 hoodedice Lemme guess: Linux-based OS
18:09 reactor Megaf: I care.
18:09 hoodedice ?
18:09 Jordach hoodedice, that and htop reported something unusual
18:09 john_minetest Jordach: you accidently build in an SSD?
18:10 hoodedice ??
18:10 john_minetest *built
18:10 Jordach john_minetest, i don't have swap space
18:10 hoodedice htop?
18:10 leo_rockway hoodedice: think task manager.
18:10 hoodedice oh
18:10 thexyz Megaf: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
18:10 hoodedice So leo_rockway what does Qt do with C++?
18:10 reactor It's nice to have some swap.
18:10 Megaf Jordach, neither do I
18:10 Megaf no need for that
18:11 leo_rockway hoodedice: Qt is written in C++
18:11 hoodedice Hmm
18:11 hoodedice So if phone companies say that their phone uses the Qt framework
18:11 hoodedice What does that mean?
18:11 reactor harrison: buzz.
18:11 hoodedice I had a 2 GB Swap
18:11 harrison ?
18:11 leo_rockway it means it's awesome =]
18:12 hoodedice with a 4 GB RAM
18:12 reactor In case of a memory hog, you have some more time to resolve the problem.
18:12 harrison related to fizzbuzz or so?
18:12 hoodedice leo_rockway: : -.-
18:12 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/OTK2cML.png
18:12 leo_rockway I really like Qt ^_^
18:12 hoodedice So, main question
18:12 reactor In normal operation, things not actively used get swapped out to free some RAM.
18:12 Megaf thexyz, I know all that, thanks anyway
18:12 hoodedice How do I make minetest run on a Jolla phone?
18:12 Jordach b-b-b-but speeed
18:13 thexyz Jordach: met oom killer already?
18:13 reactor The hell is clementine.
18:13 Jordach reactor, music player based off of amarok
18:13 reactor Mkay.
18:13 Jordach thexyz, nope
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18:13 reactor 34% for a music player!
18:13 Jordach reactor, QT
18:13 thexyz what a waste!
18:13 leo_rockway hoodedice: compiling for that platform. But it would need to be modified for controllers, etc.
18:14 reactor Woah, dude. You're spending irrationally!
18:14 hoodedice God bless the guy who made the OOM killer
18:14 thexyz free ram is wasted ram so what's the problem
18:14 leo_rockway Clementine is a Qt music player that looks just like Amarok 1.4.
18:14 hoodedice leo_rockway: I guess I'll leave that to when I actually learn code
18:14 Jordach reactor, thexyz: blame the KDE guys for a heavy cpu usage
18:14 reactor Heh.
18:14 harrison dreadful sorry, clementine
18:14 thexyz Jordach: why are there so many processes though?
18:15 reactor My whole system takes as much CPU as that clementine, more or less.
18:15 Jordach thexyz, tagreader, library updater
18:15 thexyz s/ram/cpu/g
18:15 leo_rockway I stopped using Amarok because it's a resources hoarder.
18:15 Jordach ^ that
18:15 Jordach but i don't like the others due to not supporting shoutcast - or even worse: crappy library sorting
18:15 leo_rockway I tried Clementine, but it started to get a bit big too. Nowadays I use Cantata, which is a KDE / Qt mpd client.
18:15 thexyz Jordach: do you need all that stuff?
18:15 reactor Men. Library.
18:15 Jordach thexyz, i listen to quite a few web radios
18:16 reactor Who needs metadata if you could just name the files properly?
18:16 thexyz I mean, library and tags
18:16 thexyz lol
18:16 Jordach reactor, the NSA
18:16 reactor Meh. NSA.
18:16 hoodedice I just use stock android music player with viper4android
18:16 leo_rockway Cantata: https://code.google.com/p/cantata/
18:16 Jordach oh OOHHHH
18:17 * Jordach noticed the bar analyser was eating 20% cpu
18:17 Jordach now it's down to 14.5%
18:17 thexyz leo_rockway: why do I need daemon to play the music?
18:17 leo_rockway thexyz: why do I need a client to play music?
18:17 leo_rockway I play the music, then close the client.
18:18 leo_rockway and the daemon keeps the music playing.
18:18 thexyz hmm..
18:18 leo_rockway and mpd is super light
18:18 Jordach leo_rockway, clementine does that too :)
18:18 leo_rockway Jordach: I believe Clementine does close-to-systray
18:18 reactor MPD?
18:18 Jordach it does
18:18 thexyz well whatever
18:18 reactor MPD is good.
18:18 leo_rockway reactor: mhm
18:19 Calinou clementine closes to systray
18:19 reactor I use it here, completely automated.
18:19 Calinou even ALt+F4
18:19 leo_rockway Cantata can be completely killed and the music keeps playing because mpd plays it.
18:19 reactor No need to even open the client, it changes playlists for me on appropriate times.
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18:19 leo_rockway reactor: neat =]
18:19 reactor I'm a lazy bastard.
18:19 thexyz using it only because it's "light" seems a bit weird to me though
18:19 reactor >:D
18:20 Jordach I just use clementine because it works for me and my listening habits
18:20 leo_rockway thexyz: I wanted to listen to music without needing a small nuclear reactor.
18:20 leo_rockway Amarok got _huge_
18:20 thexyz leo_rockway: I got it; I got it
18:20 reactor Don't you highlight me.
18:20 pitriss mpd is great piece of software..:)
18:20 Jordach you've all got better hardware than me, i've got a 7 year old Pentium4 :D
18:20 ShadowNinja Most of my list is processes running as root, a number of them kernel processes, and all eating 0.0% CPU and RAM. With about three that use measurable CPU and RAM. (minetestserver running as minetest, and chromium and quasselclient runnins as me)
18:20 reactor The best part of it is it can be run unattended, pitriss.
18:20 leo_rockway and you can control mpd from Android too, if you have Android.
18:21 harrison when i code i don't usually listen to music
18:21 harrison because i concentrate and forget
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18:21 pitriss reactor: yeah and possibility to be controlled via scripts:D
18:21 reactor That, too. What I do.
18:21 thexyz ShadowNinja: by the way, I wanted to ask you: how does quassel core compare to, say, ZNC?
18:22 reactor By the way. cron rocks.
18:22 harrison i use quassel client and a remote core
18:22 Jordach you can stick the core into a VPS and leave it
18:22 harrison i recommend it highly
18:22 reactor harrison: it dumps core remotely?
18:22 leo_rockway I use weechat in a tmux session o.o
18:22 kaeza Jordach, you can too with ZNC
18:22 kaeza o hai leo_rockway
18:22 ShadowNinja thexyz: It is better. :-) You have dynamic backlog fetching, stored in a SQL DB. And the core uses very little CPU/RAM on my RPi
18:22 thexyz harrison: it doesn't answer my question though
18:22 leo_rockway kaeza: buenas
18:23 thexyz ShadowNinja: so how does it compare to ZNC?
18:23 reactor Do stick to text-based IRC clients. IRC is probably the last thing that would ever need GUI.
18:23 kaeza como va la vida de casao? :P
18:23 thexyz did you use both?
18:23 Jordach reactor, because nothing changed
18:23 leo_rockway kaeza: todavía no. En marzo. En unos días tengo la entrevista para la Visa.
18:23 harrison we aren't in the answer business. our core strength is obfuscatory rhetorical tropes.
18:23 reactor Jordach: because it's a mature standard.
18:23 Jordach leo_rockway, ##minetest-es
18:23 PilzAdam kaeza, leo_rockway, english please
18:23 ShadowNinja thexyz: Yes, I used to use ZNC. Quessel provides far better integration between client and core.
18:24 kaeza Jordach, PilzAdam: :<
18:24 Jordach kaeza, :>
18:24 reactor leo_rockway: I AM CORNHOLIO!
18:24 thexyz ShadowNinja: alright, maybe I'll try it some day then
18:24 reactor DO YOU HAVE ANY TP?
18:24 reactor FOR MY BUNGHOLIO?
18:24 leo_rockway me speako el english
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18:24 reactor ARE YOU THREATENING ME? HHHHEHEHEH HHHEHEHEHEH.... HHHHEHEHEEH HHEHEHEHEH YOU MUST GIVE ME YOUR TP!
18:25 kaeza teh duck
18:25 reactor (etc._
18:25 reactor s/_/)/
18:25 thexyz ShadowNinja: can it send/receive files via DCC?
18:25 leo_rockway I haven't tried MT in a while. What's new in the last 3 months or so?
18:25 Inocudom The minetest forums being as dead as a door nail is the new norm apparently.
18:25 leo_rockway phoo v.v
18:26 ShadowNinja thexyz: The only downside I have found as of yet is that you can only use clients designed for quassel. But QuallseClient, QuasselDroid, and WoboQuassel are some of the best clients around.
18:26 * Jordach found the best entity dupe ever http://imgur.com/a/ZLcSl
18:26 ShadowNinja thexyz: Yes, although I've never used that functionality.
18:26 Inocudom Freenode.irc, for reasons unknown, is not capable of going to channel #PureZC.
18:26 reactor Inocudom: exactly. Why don't you  guys make mailing lists instead
18:26 reactor ?
18:26 ShadowNinja QuasselClient*
18:27 Inocudom That is the chat channel for the PureZC site.
18:27 thexyz ShadowNinja: alright, thanks
18:27 Jordach Inocudom, it's an empty channel
18:27 thexyz reactor: because forums are better for what we have
18:27 Jordach same goes for ##PureZC
18:28 Inocudom Did you just go there? On mibbit, it shows some idle people there.
18:28 thexyz and easier for newcomers to understand too
18:28 Jordach strange
18:28 Calinou mailing lists in 2013? heh
18:28 reactor They should G-line mibbit.
18:28 harrison Rachel from Cardholder Services, this is Christopher Wren, the architect. "Pleased to meet you, Mr. Wren." "How do you like the 17th century so far, Rachel?"
18:28 reactor Calinou: what?
18:28 PilzAdam harrison, I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
18:28 reactor Calinou: Forums are the same as mailing lists, but perverted.
18:28 harrison Can you tell me more about that?
18:29 ShadowNinja Mibbit? Didn't they ban that?
18:29 thexyz leave global bans to shitty networks
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18:29 reactor Mibbit is a kludge.
18:29 thexyz like efnet <3
18:30 reactor EvergreenTree: o/
18:30 Inocudom I was there, so apparently not. It can join the #PureZC channel, but Freenode.irc cannot.
18:30 PilzAdam harrison, http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/contact-us
18:30 thexyz > lol we've banned hetzner subnet because we're retarded
18:31 reactor PilzAdam: what's the matter with him?
18:31 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I don't feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://start-irc-bullying.eu/start ;-)
18:31 reactor He seems alright.
18:32 PilzAdam reactor, he posted the same link I posted to other people, which offended me
18:32 harrison harrison: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
18:32 reactor May I have a look at the link?
18:33 Inocudom It looks like the features of proller's next branch are doomed. Everyone seems to hate them.
18:33 harrison prolly
18:33 ShadowNinja reactor: It was banned, and I see no mention of a unban: http://blog.freenode.net/2009/06/new​-freenode-webchat-and-why-to-use-it/
18:34 reactor Good.
18:35 Inocudom I only used mibbit to get to the #purezc channel, since freenode.irc can't (the idle people don't show up with freenode.irc.)
18:35 reactor Those who aren't able to install an IRC client shouldn't probably be here anyway.
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18:36 Inocudom What would keep freenode.net from joining #PureZC, even though Mibbit can?
18:36 reactor Different network?
18:37 Inocudom Well, it is supposedly at somewhere known as bladerock.net (or something like that.)
18:38 reactor What's exactly the problem?
18:38 reactor It's not on freenode, so what? Connect to that bladerock.net and join it there?
18:39 reactor What are you, a Windows user?
18:39 Inocudom The #PureZC channel is at irc.bladerock.net port 6667.
18:39 reactor So?
18:39 iqualfragile heh
18:40 Inocudom Apparently, freenode.net can't connect to it.
18:40 iqualfragile Inocudom: are you are windows-user?
18:40 reactor You shouldn't probably be using IRC wlevelith that of comliteracyputer.
18:40 PilzAdam iqualfragile, +are
18:40 ShadowNinja Inocudom: No, of course not.
18:41 iqualfragile * Inocudom are you are a windows-user are?
18:41 Inocudom Yes. My computer came with Windows.
18:41 iqualfragile yeah, looks like it
18:41 reactor Oh. I see.
18:41 reactor That's why.
18:42 pitriss PilzAdam: i want to ask, in your Farming plus mod.. Is speed of growing constant or depend on how long day/night cycle is?
18:42 reactor *yawn*
18:42 Inocudom But www.kvirc.net can connect here?
18:42 PilzAdam pitriss, its constant, it only grows in daylight, though
18:42 Fadi does anyone here do textures?
18:42 reactor Inocudom: you should read manuals.
18:42 Jordach Inocudom, freenode isn't related to bladerock
18:43 reactor Inocudom: and you should defeinitely read more about how IRC works.
18:43 iqualfragile reactor: high five for arrogance
18:43 reactor iqualfragile: pardon?
18:43 reactor What have I said wrong now?
18:43 iqualfragile Jordach: nah, i guess he means the freenode webchat
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18:44 iqualfragile reactor: "<reactor> Oh. I see. <reactor> That's why."
18:44 reactor Heck, I've only made obvious conclusions.
18:44 iqualfragile yeah, me too
18:44 reactor Oh, that. Well, what's wrong with that?
18:44 iqualfragile nothing
18:44 iqualfragile its just slightly arrogant
18:44 reactor Windows use and stupidity correlate.
18:44 pitriss PilzAdam: ah ok, thanks.. Maybe i will try to modify it to be dynamic..:) On our server we have longer days and plants are growing too fast..:)
18:45 iqualfragile pitriss: have you modified tree growth speed?
18:45 iqualfragile i think its much too fast
18:45 Inocudom I must ask the obvious: why does everybody hate the features of proller's next branch? Some of them could be very useful.
18:45 PilzAdam Inocudom, its not "hate"
18:45 Inocudom Take, for example, the one that reduces server lag.
18:45 iqualfragile Inocudom: "proller's next branch"?
18:45 reactor iqualfragile: arrogant is someone using Windows, not reading documentation when needed, despite being advised otherwise by                                                          inherenamesert
18:45 PilzAdam its just that I dont like his "style" of development (i.e. just throw everything in)
18:46 pitriss iqualfragile: not yet, but good idea:)
18:46 reactor PilzAdam: Indian programming?
18:46 PilzAdam reactor, well, proller is russian....
18:46 iqualfragile (sorry not quite up to date, was studiing)
18:46 iqualfragile reactor: indians are quite good at programming
18:46 reactor PilzAdam: nationality doesn't stop people from programming Indian style.
18:47 reactor iqualfragile: oh yes?
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18:47 reactor iqualfragile: illegible code that by some holy effing miracle manages to work?
18:47 iqualfragile reactor: i hope so, most of them have studied (at least the younger ones)
18:48 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.ph​p?page=news_item&amp;px=MTUxMjk :D
18:48 reactor You've confused the hell out of me.
18:49 iqualfragile Calinou: they should realy stop using ubuntu as testing standard
18:49 reactor iqualfragile: true that.
18:49 reactor Ubuntu is shit.
18:49 iqualfragile let me guess
18:49 iqualfragile archlinux?
18:49 reactor No.
18:49 iqualfragile gentoofreak?
18:49 PilzAdam FreeBSD?
18:49 Inocudom Ubuntu is maintained by a small company in South Africa.
18:49 iqualfragile debianfreedomfag?
18:49 reactor I've been using ubuntu for some years.
18:50 Calinou http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images​/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif
18:50 Calinou they use xubuntu sometimes
18:50 Calinou that's cool
18:50 reactor iqualfragile: why are you interested in what I use eh?
18:50 reactor iqualfragile: you have something to tell me?
18:50 Calinou Inocudom: in Isle of Man ;)
18:50 Calinou <iqualfragile> debianfreedomfag?
18:50 Calinou do not use "gay" as pejorative term
18:50 reactor Why not.
18:50 iqualfragile Calinou: freedomfag is a term on its own
18:51 iqualfragile additional: watch yourself a litle bit southpark and you would know that fag and gay are quite different terms
18:51 thexyz Calinou: you good with laptops? is zenbook prime ux21a good?
18:51 Inocudom It is exciting to see RealBadAngel's progress with the shaders.
18:51 iqualfragile reactor: because i am a leet-haxxor and if you give me your ip i will give you a virus that deletes your hdd
18:51 iqualfragile just give me your ip
18:52 reactor iqualfragile: mike402.no-ip.biz
18:52 reactor iqualfragile: you're welcome.
18:53 reactor It's not IP, but if you'te "leet" enough, you can resolve it.
18:53 NakedFury 127.0.0.1
18:53 Inocudom I found out recently that AssaultCube is not dead. But why do they still cling to the Cube engine when Cube 2 has been out?
18:53 Calinou thexyz: no idea
18:53 iqualfragile NakedFury: thats my man!
18:53 Calinou thexyz: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-Z​enbook-Prime-UX21A-Ultrabook.83574.0.html ?
18:54 NakedFury Inocudom, because they are fools or just lazy
18:54 iqualfragile NakedFury: in 5 minutes your hdd is deleted
18:55 Inocudom If they move to Cube2, they should make a program that converts the maps for the game to the Cube2 engine.
18:55 NakedFury okay ill play as the worlds greatest detective while you do that
18:55 iqualfragile stfu you will be gone soon!1!
18:55 thexyz Calinou: yea, I've already read all of that
18:55 sfan5 !op
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18:56 sfan5 !deop
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18:56 kaeza awwww ♥
18:56 PilzAdam sfan5, no
18:56 iqualfragile Calinou: i have a program here where i enter your ip and then you are dead
18:56 sfan5 PilzAdam, yes
18:56 PilzAdam sfan5, its not voxely enough for this channel
18:57 thexyz you aren't either
18:57 iqualfragile PilzAdam: =:)
18:57 OldCoder "Voxely" ?
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18:59 Inocudom What do you guys know about the Typhoon Haiyan? PureZC didn't make a topic about it at all.
19:01 Calinou iqualfragile: DDoS is illegal
19:01 Calinou threatening can get you banned
19:01 pitriss please in minetest.register_abm, interval is in seconds?
19:01 PilzAdam pitriss, yes
19:01 iqualfragile NakedFury: i am saying good bye in advance
19:01 pitriss PilzAdam: thank you:)
19:02 sfan5 Calinou: banned from ?
19:02 Calinou here, or even klined
19:02 sfan5 ah, freenode
19:03 thexyz jokes are illegal
19:03 thexyz don't ever joke
19:03 thexyz people who are in control have no sense of humor
19:04 iqualfragile thexyz: thanks, at least someone understands i am joking
19:04 * away deletes iqualfragile cd drive
19:05 iqualfragile PilzAdam: http://imgur.com/WAM698L
19:05 iqualfragile better?
19:05 PilzAdam no
19:05 kaeza lol
19:05 PilzAdam voxels are 3D IIRC
19:06 kaeza one does not simply please PA
19:06 iqualfragile PilzAdam: that is 3d but it is straight from above!!
19:06 PilzAdam iqualfragile, ah, I love it then
19:06 iqualfragile i knew it
19:06 iqualfragile :D
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19:13 thexyz ShadowNinja: well, it's not that bad
19:13 ShadowNinja :-)
19:15 ShadowNinja thexyz: What DB?
19:15 thexyz ShadowNinja: PostgreSQL
19:15 Megaf my netbook, http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/scr​eenshotfrom2013-11-13171023.php
19:15 ShadowNinja Good, that's considered the best one(although I use SQLite).
19:17 sfan5 Megaf: you should try docky
19:17 sfan5 xfce4 with only upper panel and docky is awesome
19:17 Megaf sfan5, that is docky actually
19:17 Megaf in panel mode =)
19:17 sfan5 oh
19:17 sfan5 I have the 'Matte' with 3d mode on
19:17 sfan5 +theme
19:18 PilzAdam Mathe?
19:18 iqualfragile kde with some design
19:18 iqualfragile analysis? *jumps out of window in fear*
19:18 Megaf on my main desktop I use XFCE 4 upper panel only with the docky in 3D mode
19:18 * sfan5 does too
19:18 PilzAdam iqualfragile, Diskrete Methoden
19:18 PilzAdam aka Mathe 1
19:18 thexyz ShadowNinja: what other cool features does it have?
19:18 Megaf here on my netbook I like to ran gnome
19:19 sfan5 my desktop: http://i.imgur.com/n9sTwfF.png
19:20 ShadowNinja thexyz: My favorite is dynamic backlog fetching(infinite backlog!) You also get proper timestamps on messages.
19:20 Calinou -1 for chrome
19:20 Calinou also your wallpaper seems very legit
19:20 thexyz sfan5: I just read reviews for that and everyone agrees it's shit :( wat do
19:21 sfan5 I like it
19:21 thexyz -1 for unreadable fonts on desktop
19:21 thexyz sfan5: novel or anime?
19:21 sfan5 anime
19:21 Calinou looks like some custom Minetest font
19:22 Calinou "novel or anime"?
19:22 thexyz I see
19:22 thexyz Calinou: ?
19:22 sfan5 Do you expect me to read a book? anime is more fun :P
19:22 thexyz yeah reading so hard
19:23 Calinou oh
19:23 thexyz I mean, I'm not reading this weeaboo shit either
19:23 Megaf sfan5, Im going to add the Faenza Icon theme here
19:23 Megaf pretty good icon theme
19:24 thexyz why is Jordach the only voiced OP?
19:24 reactor People talking about icon themes.
19:24 reactor Hah.
19:24 sfan5 can't i change the font color on the desktop D:
19:25 sfan5 s/(.+)/why \1/
19:25 thexyz lol, dat plot
19:25 thexyz just look at those plots this girl has
19:26 sfan5 every Infinite Statros wallpaper contains plots
19:26 Jordach sfan5 = total wuss
19:26 Jordach MC Patcher
19:26 thexyz sfan5: because you don't need shortcuts on the desktop
19:26 thexyz oh, so that's why
19:27 Calinou I never use desktop shortcuts
19:28 iqualfragile Megaf: sfan5 are we doing a desktop thread?
19:28 sfan5 no
19:28 thexyz I don't either, XFCE just places open windows' shortcuts there
19:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/BnIkSzf.jpg
19:28 Jordach ^ mine
19:29 thexyz jpg
19:29 Jordach imgur converts images into jpg if too big
19:30 kaeza repost: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Sc​reenshot%20from%202013-11-11%2012%3A37%3A32.jpg
19:30 Megaf heh, people like XFCE
19:30 Megaf thats cool
19:30 thexyz are there any alternatives?
19:31 thexyz kaeza: eh those clocks
19:31 sfan5 yay! bumblebee decided to work
19:31 iqualfragile thexyz: "plot?"
19:31 thexyz yea, those two big fine plots
19:32 thexyz what's your question, actually?
19:32 ShadowNinja thexyz: Also, hover over a image link to show the image.
19:32 sfan5 s/"(.+)"/what is \1/
19:32 sfan5 I think you can interpret it like that
19:33 iqualfragile thexyz: i can  not seem to find those plots you are talking about
19:33 thexyz ShadowNinja: I've already figured it out (after building it with webkit use flag the second time)
19:33 Calinou kaeza: that wallpaper looks MLP-inspired :p
19:33 thexyz iqualfragile: that's no problem
19:33 thexyz iqualfragile: https://yande.re/post?tags=infinite_stratos+
19:34 kaeza Calinou, ·_·
19:34 thexyz um.. I guess it's only NSFW if you're logged in so..
19:35 sfan5 what about this? http://www.emptyblue.it/data/wallpaper/Infi​niteStratos/11_1205infinite_stratos0224.jpg
19:35 thexyz so much plot
19:35 sfan5 hehe
19:35 * Jordach and EvergreenTree have been filling VE-Survival with TNT
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19:36 Jordach okay, that's really bad: 0 ps
19:36 Jordach fps*
19:36 reactor Pwned.
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19:40 thexyz sfan5: if you're watching it for plot then I think suggesting you hs dxd is fine as it's got even more plot
19:41 sfan5 hs dxd would fit my genre (while not having selected any 'ecchi' or 'harem' checkbox while searching) but no
19:41 sfan5 I'm also not watching it for plot
19:42 sfan5 in the anime the plot is not as much as my wallpaper
19:42 iqualfragile thexyz: ok, took me some time but iguess i got the plot
19:42 sfan5 -the
19:43 thexyz ShadowNinja: the cool thing is that it works with any URL, not just images
19:43 thexyz sfan5: no? :(
19:43 sfan5 no, not mainly :P
19:44 thexyz hmm.. then I'm not sure
19:44 thexyz what to suggest, that is
19:45 sfan5 http://fansubdb.net/fansubs?n=&amp;t%5B%5D=1&​amp;s%5B%5D=1&amp;s%5B%5D=3&amp;ga=0&amp;gna=​1&amp;g%5B%5D=1&amp;g%5B%5D=2&amp;gn%5B%5D=8&​amp;g%5B%5D=10&amp;gn%5B%5D=22&amp;g%5B%5D=23
19:45 sfan5 look at the genres selected at the side
19:47 iqualfragile dead:beef:cafe:babe
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19:47 iqualfragile it worked, i summoned him!
19:47 thexyz Übernatürlich is a nice genre I suppose
19:47 sfan5 heh
19:47 sfan5 well just throw it into google translate de -> ru
19:47 thexyz sfan5: got any list of watched stuff?
19:47 sfan5 yep
19:47 iqualfragile my desktop http://mg.viewskew.com/u/iqualfragile/m/desktop/
19:48 iqualfragile thexyz: übernatürlich-->supernatural
19:48 thexyz translated it already but thanks
19:48 sfan5 thexyz: http://pastie.org/private/lzlqi5ezvq0jkfi28mxtw
19:48 pitriss PilzAdam: please.. I want to ask.. Is your farming plus counted to run that abm every default ingame hour? (in case of tomatoes, where interval is 50s)
19:48 sfan5 I suppose it's obvious what [...] means
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19:49 iqualfragile Yuusha ni Narenakatta Ore wa Shibushibu Shuushoku o Ketsui Shimashita
19:49 iqualfragile wut?
19:49 PilzAdam pitriss, its a more or less arbitrary number
19:49 sfan5 iqualfragile: pretty long title :D
19:50 sfan5 http://fansubdb.net/anime/2358/yuu​sha_ni_nare_nakatta_ore_wa_shibush​ibu_shuushoku_o_ketsui_shimashita
19:50 pitriss PilzAdam: ah okay.. thanks
19:50 iqualfragile http://images.fansubdb.net/ce98​d33883723798e7f601cbddc7dad535
19:50 john_minetest Any new stuff in minetest?
19:50 reactor You.
19:50 sfan5 john_minetest is not new
19:50 sfan5 :P
19:50 reactor I mean, o/ john_minetest.
19:50 reactor sfan5: I know. Just wanted to mess with him.
19:51 iqualfragile sfan5: ^
19:51 thexyz sfan5: eh, I think I prefer some other genres
19:51 reactor Please note I do not intend any harm to anyone.
19:51 iqualfragile soo: do you watch any anime outside the tits-genre?
19:51 sfan5 sure
19:52 sfan5 thexyz: which other genres?
19:52 thexyz sfan5: dunno, you can consult the list at http://myanimelist.net/animelist/thexyz but that's pretty entry-level stuff
19:53 reactor Fun fact. A buddy of mine used to watch quite much anime. Now he has sexual problems (ED? I didn't ask him to elaborate).
19:53 thexyz poor guy =(
19:53 iqualfragile fun fact: lots of japan animes use quite a bit of german
19:54 sfan5 define 'use'
19:54 iqualfragile paprika, steins gate, elfenlied,
19:54 thexyz sfan5: but you should watch Steins;Gate
19:54 iqualfragile they use some single words as names for things
19:54 iqualfragile nge is a good example
19:54 iqualfragile sfan5: yes you should
19:54 thexyz paprika <3
19:54 FreeFull reactor: I don't think those two are related
19:55 iqualfragile sele nerv etc
19:55 reactor FreeFull: may or may not be ralted, but these seem to correlate: I know/heard of at least three people with the same problem.
19:55 iqualfragile thexyz: toradora? srsly?
19:56 reactor s/ralt/relat/
19:56 iqualfragile "träumend"
19:56 thexyz iqualfragile: bestest love story ever told
19:56 sfan5 haha
19:56 iqualfragile was my first anime to be honest
19:56 FreeFull reactor: That's not a very large sample size
19:56 thexyz iqualfragile: toradora?
19:56 iqualfragile yes
19:57 thexyz ah
19:57 thexyz we've released vn translation not so long ago
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19:57 thexyz http://toradora.xyz.is/
19:57 iqualfragile "vn"?
19:57 thefamilygrog66 howdy
19:57 thexyz visual novel, you didn't know?
19:57 iqualfragile no
19:57 reactor Шо маемо то маемо, they say. I wouldn't like to go around polling people with such interests.
19:58 thefamilygrog66 maemo
19:58 iqualfragile reactor: can you translate that to german or english so the majority of people reading this right now can understand it?
19:58 thexyz iqualfragile: alright then
19:59 reactor "Шо маемо то маемо" - Russian for "We have what we have"
19:59 iqualfragile hmm… does not quite seem to make sense to me
20:00 sfan5 thexyz: is Vivired Operation good?
20:00 sfan5 '' Vividred is a bootylicious party with a mix of action porn and, well, softcore porn. ''
20:00 sfan5 lol
20:01 thexyz sfan5: BD version is
20:01 thexyz if you're looking for plot
20:01 sfan5 plot all over the place?
20:02 sfan5 Steins;Gate Ep1 is almost done... brb
20:04 john_minetest vn is one of the primary computer game types in some asian countries
20:05 thefamilygrog66 digital "choose your own adventure" books, more or less?
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20:06 john_minetest Yeah.
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20:06 reactor john_minetest: nope.
20:07 john_minetest "Visual novels and ADVs are especially prevalent in Japan, where they made up nearly 70% of the PC game titles released in 2006."
20:07 dumdidum where can i find the different seeds? orange, carrot, tomato, pumpkin, ...
20:08 reactor dumdidum: particle accelerator.
20:08 iqualfragile thexyz: i do know what vns are but i did not know that toradora had one
20:08 kaeza Quit: *COFF*
20:08 kaeza dumdidum, /giveme
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20:09 iqualfragile sfan5: the first ~ 3 episodes are a bit strange at first
20:09 iqualfragile but it waill all make sense in the end
20:09 iqualfragile s/waill/will/
20:10 reactor Good night. Rather, goo'd night.
20:10 Fadi Is anyone here free to help me with mod development, like answer a question?
20:11 dumdidum particle accelerator? what do i need for this?
20:11 iqualfragile Fadi: do not ask if you can ask just ask
20:11 Fadi alright
20:11 thexyz iqualfragile: well then go play it
20:11 Fadi so I've created a certain stone for my mod, but in the crafting grid it's not doing what I want it to do
20:11 Fadi like create the sword in my mod
20:11 Fadi it just takes the basic stone propreties
20:12 Fadi well I copy pasted and edited the code of the stone
20:12 iqualfragile thexyz: i do not own an psp and i do not know where to buy -.0 the game
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20:12 kaeza Fadi, did you add 'stone=1' to 'groups'?
20:12 thexyz iqualfragile: use an emulator, like PPSSPP
20:12 Fadi in minetest.register_craft ?
20:12 thexyz and google can tell you where to get the game
20:12 kaeza no, in register_node
20:13 Fadi oooh
20:13 john_minetest john_minetest.register_craft :D
20:13 Fadi here's what I have
20:13 Fadi groups = {cracky=2, stone=1},
20:13 Fadi change it to stone=0?
20:14 iqualfragile shouldnt explicit recipies overide implicit ones?
20:14 kaeza Fadi, no, leave it at 1
20:14 Fadi So
20:15 Fadi I just make a new group?
20:15 iqualfragile so
20:15 iqualfragile no
20:15 iqualfragile your new stone is some kind of stone
20:15 iqualfragile so it belongs in the stone group
20:15 kaeza Fadi, are you using latest minetest_game?
20:15 Fadi of course
20:16 iqualfragile Fadi: link to repository?
20:16 Fadi I kinda don't have that yet, I'm new to minetest
20:16 kaeza pastebin the code
20:16 iqualfragile s/minetest/development/
20:16 Fadi alright
20:16 Fadi y
20:20 john_minetest Is there a proper video upload site similar to youtube somewhere?
20:20 iqualfragile john_minetest: vimeo?
20:21 iqualfragile john_minetest: or  http://mg.viewskew.com/
20:22 Fadi so I have no idea what's wrong
20:22 Sokomine hm. i wish signs would tell the reader who last wrote on them - i.e. "this is a great sign (written by xyz)"
20:22 * Sokomine looks hopefully at pilzadam
20:22 Fadi http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/99-TTnNkzl4YM blocks and http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/101-HbqrCOlqnf functions01
20:22 FreeFull Do locked signs do that?
20:23 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Poke a homedecor dev about that.
20:23 kaeza pong
20:23 kaeza good idea :P
20:23 Sokomine why? signs are part of default and ought to be improved there
20:23 iqualfragile FreeFull: they tell you who owns them
20:23 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Oh, those signs...
20:23 Sokomine poking a homedecor dev about it might be easier than getting it into minetest_game, that's true :-)
20:23 Sokomine yes. normal signs
20:24 Sokomine they ought to tell who wrote on them. might also help with seeing whose house it may be. or who vandalized a sign
20:24 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Pull request maybe?
20:24 iqualfragile Sokomine: why would that be?
20:24 Sokomine hm. will only work if the idea is approved of i think
20:24 FreeFull I wonder why minecraft doesn't have locked chests
20:24 FreeFull Clearly minetest is superior just in that
20:25 iqualfragile minecraft does not have locked chests?
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20:25 Sokomine freefull: while there are some things people from minecraft miss about minetest and complain about, the other way around is certainly equally true. there are some things that are just better in minetest (like the 3x3 crafting grid in the inv, the locked chests, the nodeboxes, ...)
20:26 Sokomine it does not seem to have by default
20:26 Sokomine and on a larger german server, people who played there told me that they don't even use protection because that would be too much work
20:26 iqualfragile yeah, it is a bit annoying with minecraft
20:26 iqualfragile you can either use some kind of standard protection plugin
20:27 FreeFull In minecraft, you're forced to either hide your chest or use a mod
20:27 iqualfragile but that would allow conter-griefing (reserving unrelated pieces of land for yourself)
20:27 FreeFull Of course, without a mod nothing stops someone from digging up your house
20:27 iqualfragile or use som complicated system like towny
20:28 FreeFull Of course, in minetest, if you don't have a protection system, you can place locked chests anywhere
20:28 FreeFull And as long as there is an item inside, nobody but you and the mods can break it
20:29 Sokomine havn't seen much chest spam on servers. if anything, there are chests left after houses where griefed or taken down due to beeing not...worth of keeping
20:29 Fadi so to do a small recap, my crafting is not working and I do not know why, <Fadi> http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/99-TTnNkzl4YM blocks and http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/101-HbqrCOlqnf functions | thanks for your help in advance
20:30 Sokomine they can be removed with worldedit after all, and that's something a server ought to have
20:30 Sokomine and regarding the sign: would it be ok for you to have a "...(written by whoever)" attached to the text of the sign in the description?
20:30 kaeza Fadi, ah now I see
20:31 kaeza where do you register your sword?
20:31 Fadi oh I didn't link to the items.lua
20:31 Fadi my bad
20:31 Sokomine or perhaps "player wrote: xyz"
20:31 Fadi http://grou.pl/pastebin/view/100-j1uHjL5f7Q
20:32 iqualfragile Sokomine: or perhaps player thexyz wrote: zyxeht
20:32 kaeza Fadi, try removing the stone group
20:33 kaeza (from the frisstone)
20:33 Sokomine that might be too long, iqalfragile. "iqualfragile wrote: hi" sounds better
20:33 Fadi Alrighty
20:33 Fadi trying it now
20:33 addi or something like "signtext" [edit by playername]
20:33 Fadi aha works now!
20:34 Fadi thanks
20:34 kaeza better: add a whole edit history with diffs Wiki-style!
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20:34 * kaeza runs
20:34 iqualfragile that might be too long addi. " hi by adi" sounds better
20:34 iqualfragile kaeza: hg based!
20:34 kaeza Fadi, strange
20:34 kaeza iqualfragile, :P
20:35 Fadi man my textures are so horrible lol
20:35 kaeza that just reminds me I need to add that to my wiki mod
20:35 iqualfragile kaeza: you know we where kidding right?
20:36 gentoo daww
20:37 kaeza Fadi, looks like a bug in craft recipe resolution
20:37 Fadi Should I report it?
20:37 kaeza (group recipe overrides specific recipe)
20:37 Fadi or is it like a bug from my stuff
20:37 * Sokomine hits kaeza with a sign :-)
20:37 iqualfragile pilz
20:37 * kaeza puts a default:nyancat on Sokomine's head
20:37 iqualfragile wtf? pilzadam is ofline?
20:38 iqualfragile its like 21:38 around here
20:38 * Sokomine wonders weather she ought to pat the cat or not :-)
20:38 Fadi That's my time
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20:38 iqualfragile Fadi: asl?
20:38 kaeza Fadi, drop a bug report in minetest_game issue tracker
20:39 kaeza or rather minetest
20:39 Fadi asl? wat
20:39 iqualfragile Fadi: yes, minetest, not minetest_game
20:39 kaeza ·_·
20:39 Fadi alrighty
20:39 kahrl Fadi: just a random guess... are those craft definition in a different lua file that you didn't dofile()?
20:39 kahrl +s
20:40 Fadi I did do dofile() in the init
20:41 Fadi simple English would be appreciated lol
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20:43 Fadi oi don't you dare ctcp me!
20:44 iqualfragile Fadi: Tunisia?
20:44 iqualfragile wtf? who lives there?
20:44 iqualfragile are you using a vpn?
20:44 Fadi No
20:44 Fadi I actually live there
20:44 Fadi lol
20:44 iqualfragile ah, cool
20:45 iqualfragile thexyz sfan5 anybody watching anime: recommend me one
20:45 iqualfragile beeing borderline-bored
20:45 kaeza boku no pico
20:45 Jordach kaeza, lol
20:45 * kaeza runs
20:46 iqualfragile kaeza: stfu
20:46 * Jordach runs
20:46 * Fadi stares at Jordach
20:46 * iqualfragile chases kaeza
20:46 Jordach :>
20:46 * iqualfragile finds kaezas ip
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20:46 * iqualfragile deletes kaezas cdrom drive via haxxorlulz
20:47 kaeza good luck! I'm behind seven prox... o wait
20:47 Fadi he can't do anything with your ip unless it's not dynamic
20:47 iqualfragile Fadi: wtf?
20:48 Fadi wat
20:48 iqualfragile wat.jpg
20:48 Fadi .
20:48 iqualfragile why would it make a difference?
20:48 Fadi oh I thought you found my porn folder for a while
20:48 Fadi oh wat
20:48 Fadi nvm
20:49 Jordach how would an internet stranger find your LOCAL porn folder
20:49 iqualfragile Jordach: didnt i just tell? via haxxorlulz
20:49 Fadi ye l33t1337H4X
20:49 kaeza no one can find my pr0n folder! I put a dot in front of the name!
20:49 iqualfragile kaeza: ^^
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20:50 iqualfragile /home/iqual/ich bin der Geist der stets verneint/Und das mit Recht, denn alles was Ensteht/Ist wert das es zugrunde geht/Drum besser wärs wenn nichts enstünde/So ist denn alles was ihr Sünde/Zerstörung, kurz das Böse nennt/Mein eigentliches Element/P0rn
20:50 kaeza wat
20:50 iqualfragile which is basicly a symlink to /home/iqual
20:50 iqualfragile :D
20:50 kaeza lol
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20:57 kaeza Fadi, post a link to the scripts in that report
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21:03 Fadi oh
21:03 EvergreenTree VanessaE, Do you have any idea why the logic control units are not allowing pipeworks to connect to an mv grinder?
21:03 Jordach <Jordach> the pipes do not connect to the machine, even when powred
21:03 Jordach <ShadowNinja> Jordach: Hmmm, *tubes* should connect.
21:04 Fadi Edited it kaeza, thanks for telling me I lost track adding more items :p
21:05 kaeza looks good now :P
21:07 EvergreenTree Does anyone have any idea why an mv grinder with two logic control units is not connecting with pneumatic tubes?
21:09 kaeza EvergreenTree, see jordach's reply
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21:13 Fadi I finally made a good texture that isn't so shit
21:13 Fadi lmao
21:17 Fadi http://prntscr.com/23yd38 doesn't look that bad eh?
21:18 Fadi ignore the join thingy, it's part of trillian's ingame chat
21:22 iqualfragile Fadi: you could use http://mg.viewskew.com for minetest related picture uploading
21:22 iqualfragile wtf?
21:22 iqualfragile that is faggotish
21:23 iqualfragile they actualy use imgur for the imagehosting
21:24 ShadowNinja lol
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21:42 Fadi What license suits "open source,  modify with the owner's permission"
21:42 VanessaE EvergreenTree: I would guess the grinders aren't using the pipeworks tubes' autorouting rules.
21:49 EvergreenTree Fadi, I think CC-BY-SA 3.0 or CC-BY 3.0 would fit
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21:55 Fadi thanks
21:57 proller Sky server stat:     digs: 1640585  places: 933008
21:57 proller respawns: 23673
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22:43 john_minetest lol
22:43 john_minetest respawn rate must be high. people dropping down :)
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23:27 KingsleyT just poking around minetest...are NPC's planned to be implemented internally, or just via the mod API?
23:27 Peacock mods most likely
23:27 Peacock they're going to fix entities before hardcoding mobs
23:27 KingsleyT 'fix'?
23:28 Peacock yeah fix
23:28 Peacock c55's already working on the entity duplication thing
23:28 KingsleyT as in there's something wrong with them
23:28 KingsleyT hmm
23:29 Peacock well they do lag public servers to high heavens, unless  you have a 6 or 8 core computer lol
23:29 KingsleyT haha, gotcha
23:30 KingsleyT I'm looking at minetest to see if it's guts are suitable to build a project off of
23:32 john_minetest cya
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23:36 KingsleyT ..does the engine currently support placing voxels on coordinate planes other than the world coordinates?
23:37 Exio4 more cores don't mean anything because we can't use them at they full power
23:38 VanessaE KingsleyT: explain?
23:38 paramat KT, i doubt it, you after spherical co-ordinates?
23:38 KingsleyT nah, I'm thinking like in games such as Blockade Runner
23:39 KingsleyT where you can build spaceships on a coordinate plane and then fly them around
23:39 KingsleyT where you're actually rotating/translating their coordinate plane
23:39 paramat ah
23:39 VanessaE so earth coords on the ground, and solar/galactic coordinates once you get sufficiently above ground?
23:40 VanessaE that's a no
23:40 * KingsleyT is not sure he is using the right terms, prototyped this himself in unity though
23:41 KingsleyT VanessaE: no, I basically just mean "blocks are put in the 'world coordinates'. Can I put blocks in coordinates other than the world?"
23:42 KingsleyT if not, then too bad :P
23:42 VanessaE I'm afraid I don't understand
23:42 VanessaE blocks are always placed on a regular grid, but entities can move freely.
23:43 KingsleyT right
23:43 KingsleyT but imagine you could make more than one grid
23:43 KingsleyT and rotate that grid however you like
23:43 paramat proller, one more small fix for floatlands needed: new default perlin noise settings for noise1 with spread of 256 instead of 64, i will post an issue at github very soon
23:43 KingsleyT and then choose which grid the blocks aligned to
23:44 KingsleyT you can then make any blocks within that grid a physics object
23:44 KingsleyT and you have a destructible voxel car puttering along the landscape
23:44 KingsleyT :3
23:44 paramat proller, ... oh and octaves increased to 6 and persistence increased to 0.6
23:45 iqualfragile KingsleyT: that would quite certrainly be the wrong way to implement it
23:46 iqualfragile as you would need multiple times the disk space and memory
23:46 iqualfragile bad idea
23:46 KingsleyT iqualfragile: how so?
23:46 KingsleyT the secondary voxel grids would only be as large as the length/width/height of the voxels within them
23:46 iqualfragile but you could think about taking some nodes, simplyfy their physical appeareance (no borders inbetween the blocks) and then turn that into an entity
23:48 iqualfragile KingsleyT: so you would "just" need to save number of voxels*height of the inner grid*width of the inner grid*depth of the inner grid more things
23:48 iqualfragile you can obviously optimize that
23:49 iqualfragile but still: on every move of any construct you would need to copy some thousand nodes from one field to another
23:49 paramat KT, there is a buggy airship mod here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6184
23:49 iqualfragile and (and i guess that is more problematic) recalculate the new surface
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23:49 KingsleyT iqualfragile: I think our terms may be getting mixed up
23:50 KingsleyT from what you're describing, I guess i'm saying "have an entity with its own voxel grid that is only as large as the entity's bounds, and allow modification of voxels on that grid as necessary"
23:50 KingsleyT there's no moving/copying/etc of memory needed to move the thing around
23:50 Exio4 something like the "Entity luavoxelmanip"
23:50 KingsleyT only if you're adding or destroying voxels to it
23:50 Exio4 i guess
23:50 KingsleyT *on it
23:51 KingsleyT Exio4: gugglin D:
23:51 KingsleyT aand all I find are irc logs
23:51 Exio4 because it isn't implemented
23:51 KingsleyT hue
23:52 iqualfragile KingsleyT: that will not work
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23:52 iqualfragile /would be a lot too complicated
23:53 Exio4 it wouldn't be that complicated if we had a way to do it like he says
23:53 KingsleyT iqualfragile: I made it work, I know exactly how complicated it is :|
23:53 KingsleyT >in C# mind you
23:54 iqualfragile why not just take some voxels and generate an entity from their simplified shape
23:54 KingsleyT iqualfragile: because then they're not modularly destructable
23:54 iqualfragile save the original voxels somewhere in the background
23:54 iqualfragile and you are good
23:55 KingsleyT I can't use redstone/electricity/whatever to power my engines
23:55 iqualfragile no need to create some kind of twisted mix-type
23:55 KingsleyT and have someone chunk grenades at me and blow up my power connections
23:55 KingsleyT as I hastily try to replace them to restore lift as my airship plummets to the earth
23:57 KingsleyT what your saying is like "why have a voxel world we could just make it a single uneditable polygon mesh and save a lot of memory"
23:57 KingsleyT except for entities :B
23:57 iqualfragile actualy polygon meshes are a lot easier editable then voxels
23:57 iqualfragile but never mind
23:58 KingsleyT ...I await the constructive solid geometry mod
23:58 KingsleyT :|
23:58 iqualfragile that will not be possible
23:58 iqualfragile you would need to change something about the engine
23:58 KingsleyT I am joking
23:58 KingsleyT because that's basically what you just said
23:59 iqualfragile but you have allready done that, why not port your c# idea to c for minetest?
23:59 KingsleyT iqualfragile: I'm looking at the minetest source right now
23:59 KingsleyT if it's a desired feature I'll gladly port it

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