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00:00 john_minetest 2:00 am. gtg, cya
00:02 stormchaser3000 chatzila
00:02 stormchaser3000 ?
00:02 dumdidum firefox plugin
00:03 stormchaser3000 ah
00:03 stormchaser3000 i should get it i use icechat
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00:04 dumdidum i use chatzilla, works good
00:04 VanessaE using a browser for chat is bad, mmkay
00:04 VanessaE ?
00:04 VanessaE :)
00:04 dumdidum i don't use irc often, so it's enough ;)
00:05 dumdidum oh, vanessa, your texture package is great :)
00:05 VanessaE thanks
00:06 anunakki hey NewCoder
00:06 anunakki hwo have you been?
00:06 VanessaE I did what I could :)
00:08 NewCoder Hi!
00:08 NewCoder anunakki, It is mixed!! :-)
00:09 * VanessaE wonders if OldCoder just updated to a newer model or what :)
00:09 anunakki :)
00:10 Peacock oldcoder got himself a boobjob and a facelift?! :P
00:10 VanessaE HA!
00:10 stormchaser3000 so anyway i am playing on minetest classic
00:11 anunakki i've got a mean head cold right now, killing me.. haha
00:11 Peacock i got a cold too, and my ass feels like stonehenge :(
00:11 stormchaser3000 ouch
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00:12 Peacock temperature dropped rather drastically this week
00:12 anunakki NewCoder, did you ever make any progress with minetest running on an fbsd server
00:12 anunakki i remember we had some truoble before
00:12 VanessaE same here, Peacock
00:12 VanessaE dropped like 20 degrees in a couple of days' time
00:12 NewCoder anunakki, I can do naught with BSD without you... like is f*cked. But improving!
00:12 NewCoder * life is etc.
00:12 Peacock didn't have enough of a sweater outside today
00:13 anunakki ah, you still going through all the rough shit?
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00:18 Peacock well that was a pointless system update, moviefone still won't load images and trailers :/
00:22 NewCoder anunakki, Heh. It is Good as well as Bad. Read blog later on.
00:22 NewCoder anunakki, I wish to see you more often!
00:23 anunakki i've added the network and channel to auto connect/join
00:23 anunakki so i'm here all the time now
00:31 NewCoder anunakki, Glad to hear it!
00:31 * NewCoder is in a meeting for an hour
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00:34 * VanessaE offers a glass of wine to whoever wants
00:37 Peacock already gots beer
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00:37 Peacock also used pillows and sheets to make a fort for the cat, she's hiding in it XD
00:38 VanessaE haha
00:42 * paramat doesnt drink :P
00:42 Peacock an englishmen that doesn't drink? what's this world coming to :P
00:43 Peacock seriously every BBC show i've ever watched had someone drinking way too much every other episode lol
00:45 VanessaE paramat, you should be ashamed :)  this is decent wine, as the cheap stuff goes :)
00:53 JackGruff You guys should play Factorio
00:54 JackGruff It's a 2D IndustrialCraft, sort of
00:57 us}0gb I don't drink either, but I suppose I'm not English, so that doesn't matter.
01:01 VanessaE too bad :)
01:02 us}0gb Yeah, it's a shame I'm not English, but I'll get by somehow.
01:02 Peacock not too many geeks like to drink or get high or get laid, though im not always convinced thats entirely by choice :P
01:03 Peacock i can believe people not doing one of the 3 for health reasons, but otherwise when it's more i tend to think they just don't have social lives :P
01:03 * paramat is semi-asexual
01:03 us}0gb I've turned down a girl who was coming on to me. I also have ID to get into the bar. So at least two of those are my choice.
01:03 * us}0gb is asexual
01:04 Peacock well people can chose to hide behind computers their whole lives, doesn't mean it's necessarily healthy
01:05 us}0gb I do get out and socialize, I just don't do it via drugs, sex, or rock and roll.
01:06 paramat P, its cool youre testing the skybox, let me know if you need a custom asteroid mod
01:06 Peacock like I said, lots of geeks will always imply it's a choice :P like college who "abstain" (can't get any)
01:06 * paramat was once offered money for mapgen tutoring
01:07 paramat if only i could earn money from mapgen, i get lots of requests, however i do minetest for free
01:07 us}0gb Peacock: It's an honest choice for me. Those things sound awful to me, and I don't understand why other people choose them. It's their choice, and I respect that, but I choose to avoid.
01:08 VanessaE well be honest with yourself, paramat:  you make some damn good mapgen-esque mods
01:08 paramat :)
01:08 Peacock that's fine, but i wouldn't want to live your life either :P so at least we can agree on not wanting to trade places :P
01:09 us}0gb For sure. You keep your life, I'll keep mine. That sounds like a fair not-trade to me.
01:10 Peacock personally i dont believe in an afterlife so i'd like to make the most of this one
01:11 us}0gb I don't either.
01:11 VanessaE I'd like to think there's an afterlife, but whether there is or not, I'm gonna make the best of this one too.
01:12 stormchaser3000 but after the end of the world there will be a pairadise in earth where people will live forever
01:12 us}0gb Once we're gone though, nothing we did will have mattered to us. They say to make the memories while you can, but those memories will be lost when you die. So they don't matter either ....
01:12 Peacock what a nihilistic POV
01:13 us}0gb I wish there was an afterlife ... I don't want to disappear forever ... 😓
01:13 stormchaser3000 people will live again though
01:13 stormchaser3000 0gb read the bible
01:13 us}0gb Why would I read some Christian mythology? It doesn't interest me.
01:13 Peacock dunno, might not matter to you now, but you may regret later on not taking advantage of your youth :P
01:14 us}0gb Now GREEK mythology was interesting.
01:14 stormchaser3000 it talks about there being a paradise after the end of the world
01:14 stormchaser3000 greek mythology is kind of interesting
01:14 NakedFury greek and roman mythology
01:14 us}0gb Yeah, a lot of stories talk about that in several mythologies.
01:14 stormchaser3000 but the bible is inspired by God
01:14 NakedFury franly 1 god religions arent very interesting
01:14 Peacock actually im alot more interested in the notions of reincarnation and cyclical history
01:15 us}0gb stormchaser3000: Greek mythology was inspired by gods too.
01:15 stormchaser3000 but not real ones
01:15 Peacock the greecians believe in many gods
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01:15 NakedFury oh no this may take a wrong turn soon
01:15 stormchaser3000 well bye i am going to #minetest-classic
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01:16 * paramat has a lifelong obsession with extreme metal and approves of people getting high :L
01:17 NakedFury drug high?
01:17 Peacock i love weed but the shit around here is so weak i gave it up six months ago
01:17 NakedFury good thats poison. any smoking is poison to your body
01:17 us}0gb I don't care if people get high, that's their own business. As long as they leave me out of it. Though I do feel bad for them.
01:17 Peacock cannabis and nicotine make a lot of dumb people tolerable lol
01:17 Guest63445 Guys, I've never been on this channel and am quite new with Linux. I have just downloaded Slacko Puppy to a usb and am talking to you off of it. It is not at all on my computer, just the usb. I dowonloaded Minetest, and there was a message saying it was in the "Fun" section of the menu. Well, I can't seem to open it. Is that because it is on a usb flash drive and not the computer, or is there a way to make it work?
01:18 us}0gb I'm not sure. I haven't used Puppy.
01:19 Guest63445 Ummm does anyone know about playing Minetest on a usb?
01:19 NakedFury an external drive?
01:19 us}0gb How did you download it? From the repository?
01:19 Guest63445 No, from an online site for Puppy.
01:20 VanessaE Guest63445: if it's on usb, you just cd to the directory and run it from there
01:21 VanessaE it'll only show up in the menu if you "install" it (e.g. a non-portable, not-run-in-place build, which is somewhat uncommon)
01:21 Guest63445 ummm please explain, since I'm new to Linux just from Windows.
01:21 Peacock nothing like USB puppy for portable OSs
01:22 VanessaE plug in your USB stick.  Open a file manager if it doesn't do so for you.  Navigate to the folder on the USB drive where minetest is.  Find the bin/ directory.  In there are one or two executable programs, one of which is named "minetest".  double-click that
01:22 Guest63445 What do you mean, "you just cd to the directory and run it from there"?
01:23 VanessaE the "cd into" is if you were running from a terminal.  Forget that method for now and instead use the file manager as above.
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01:24 VanessaE you can do the terminal method later on after you get comfortable with the command line and so forth
01:24 Guest63445 o.k., I'm copying this down, and I'll try it. Thanks!
01:27 paramat Peacock, skybox as a cube with 6 textures seems appropriate since MT cosmology is cubic, whereas our cosmology is spherical
01:27 Peacock yeah, though finding perfectly square star/space backgrounds, or repeating ones, is a bit more tricky
01:28 NakedFury cubic cosmos
01:29 paramat abstract purpose designed textures will look much better than real life astronomy photos :)
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01:31 Peacock kinda defeats the purpose of epic backgrounds though :P
01:37 VanessaE well I've seen some really GOOD "artist impression" images of like extrasolar planets and the like
01:37 VanessaE so why not?
01:40 paramat i was watching 'moontest' get nowhere fast and stepped in to suggest a direction as a LVM mod
01:41 paramat now im thinking of finally making *the* MT moon mod ... as in whatever that thing in the sky is
01:41 jojoa1997 LVM?
01:41 paramat heh
01:42 paramat LuVManipulator, vox my nipples
01:42 jojoa1997 -.-
01:42 jojoa1997 anyways
01:43 jojoa1997 you should make players have to go through a chese portal to get to the moon
01:52 paramat cheese portal? too MC :)
01:53 * paramat could make a sun mod too
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01:54 paramat it would be simple, a realm of bright nodes heh
01:56 paramat MT terrain is modeled on earth's, so i guess the moon should be similar to our moon ...
01:57 VanessaE bbl
01:57 Exio4 you could make space ships or so
01:57 Peacock vox my nipples
01:57 paramat no thanks
01:57 Exio4 why not?
01:57 Peacock ships cant move in MT
01:57 Exio4 you could call yourself NASA then 8)
01:58 Exio4 Peacock: the idea is building a ship, somehow, and then place an entity, then it moves a bit and then teleports
01:58 Exio4 like a "time-travel" in movies :P
01:58 Menche like how sand moves?
01:58 Peacock a single entity, or one for each node like the airship mod?
01:58 Exio4 single entity
01:58 Peacock aiight, how would you make 1 entity from several nodes though? (if it can be done, im interested)
01:59 Peacock i had ships run in 50K nodes, and more lol
01:59 Exio4 hardcoded entities, there isn't an entity lvm yet
01:59 NakedFury before ships lets work on a smoother no hiccups cart
01:59 Peacock ah well,
01:59 Menche yeah lol
01:59 Peacock an API function that converts a schematic to entity, might just do the trick
01:59 NakedFury carts and small boat
02:00 Menche we haven't gotten single-node land vehicles completely stable yet
02:00 Exio4 the ship would be a "cosmetic thing", it wouldn't really move but more allow you to sit on it and then it makes you "feel" like it moves a bit and then you end in the space
02:01 paramat > ([02:57] <Exio4> why not?) oh heh i was replying to P
02:01 Peacock well my earlier suggestion was to use voxmynipples to remove ships from the main map and to a "subspace" layer (an inaccesible part of the map) to fake travel
02:02 paramat nice idea
02:02 Exio4 ah paramat :P
02:03 Peacock faking space travel is probably alot better than trying to physically move the nodes (with velocity and accel)
02:03 Exio4 isn't that what i said
02:03 Peacock because if the whole ship is moving like entities, chances are the player is *attached* and can't move within it
02:03 paramat there's a UFO mod that travels as a vehicle, could edit that
02:04 Peacock exio you said
02:04 Peacock <Exio4> Peacock: the idea is building a ship, somehow, and then place an entity, then it moves a bit and then teleports
02:04 Exio4 fake travel, that is
02:04 Peacock ufo mod is fine, but it's not for big ships
02:04 kaeza [23:58:09] <Peacock> aiight, how would you make 1 entity from several nodes though? (if it can be done, im interested)
02:05 kaeza ^ I have some code for that
02:05 Exio4 lel
02:05 kaeza Exio4, ?
02:05 Exio4 how rare :3
02:06 kaeza I actually used it for "reducing" a WE region to a single node :P
02:06 Peacock for big ships, you have to picture say, moving a skyscraper or castle (which is what most people build)
02:07 paramat idea for space elevator: enter capsule, teleports you to the interior of an identical capsule at destination
02:07 Peacock space elevators would be cool
02:07 Peacock especially for the layered- realms type worlds
02:07 paramat yes
02:07 Peacock you could use the special gravity settings for that
02:08 NakedFury it would be great if an elevator node could be made. to lower or raise you smoothly
02:08 NakedFury could look like an old style mining elevator
02:08 NakedFury http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/phot​o-s/02/a6/43/49/filename-out-west-2012.jpg
02:08 Peacock you mean a typical elevator? yeah i asked for that too but the best we got is teleports
02:08 NakedFury like that one
02:08 Peacock which i tried a year ago lol
02:08 paramat space elevator is a 1D vertical realm for connecting the realm stack, another project 8P
02:08 Menche shouldn't be too hard, just move the node up like sand/gravel with the player attached
02:08 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent​.com/u/100008207/makeone.jar
02:09 kaeza oops
02:09 kaeza this one instead: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.c​om/u/100008207/makeone.tar.bz2
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02:09 kaeza inb4 >.jar
02:10 paramat grog your music is good
02:10 Peacock well your typical space elevator could be part of the mapgen
02:10 Peacock a solid cylinder at 0.0,0 going from top to bottom
02:11 Peacock GRoooooooooooooooooooog!
02:11 thefamilygrog66 hey thanks, paramat - which stuff?
02:11 Peacock the barry white stuff :P
02:12 Peacock actually, this is pretty cool: http://hypem.com/track/1yw4h/Simon+%26+Garfunkel+-​+The+Sound+Of+Silence+%28The+Golden+Pony+Remix%29
02:12 paramat i saw 2 videos you posted on IRC, a recent gig and the early mushroom band thing
02:15 thefamilygrog66 cool. I'm no Barry White, but I have fun with it anyway.
02:15 paramat here's some of my multidimensional fractal generated music https://soundcloud.com/menokefug
02:15 Peacock i go more for remixes of old beats :P the mathematical stuff reminds me of that species on Voyager that though the doctor was the best singer ever lol
02:16 Peacock http://hypem.com/track/1gphj/Marvin​+Gaye+-+Sunny+%28Mercury+Edit+II%29
02:17 paramat i also have a microtonal ambient bass guitar track and video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBOxnO10KjE
02:18 zat Anybody seen a player called nolan?
02:18 Peacock annoying fuck yeah
02:18 paramat thats what my digital art looks like
02:18 thefamilygrog66 haha
02:18 Peacock BSG translation: an annoying frak yeah
02:19 thefamilygrog66 cool stuff paramat - I've done some synth stuff as well, albeit analog (e.g. ARP 2600, Maxi Korg)
02:19 Peacock <Beavis> hrm hrm, you said anal</Beavis>
02:20 Peacock <Butt-Head> Anal-og, uhuhuhuh</Butt-Head>
02:21 paramat anal log .. uhuhuh
02:21 Peacock even funnier in the movie when they derived "anus" from "entertain us" lol
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02:22 khonkhortisan This car has gotten dirty. Wash it. → wa-shit
02:23 Peacock http://youtu.be/Rh17jKL0DfA
02:26 thefamilygrog66 here's a couple of things I did with my Maxi Korg synth and a looping pedal: https://myspace.com/numbloc/music/songs
02:26 thefamilygrog66 very '70s sci fi soundtrackety
02:27 Peacock jerry goldsmithy or other Geroge-Orr scifish?
02:27 Peacock erm, The Lathe of Heaven
02:27 thefamilygrog66 hmm, you tell me
02:28 thefamilygrog66 influenced by Logan's Run and Land of the Lost, I guess
02:28 thefamilygrog66 hehe
02:28 thefamilygrog66 oh and the classic Canadian series, Starlost
02:28 Peacock well goldsmith did the music for Best of Both Worlds, the most influential 2-parter of TNG
02:29 Peacock Starlost doesn't ring a bell, lol i dont watch canadian stuff just because it's canadian if budget is shit... though The Colony was pretty good
02:30 thefamilygrog66 http://youtu.be/UMAi6u4Ps5A
02:30 Peacock what sucks for most canadian productions is they don't have the money for things like sets or CGI
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02:30 Peacock the actors are just as good, but if the sets are fake-y i can't get into it
02:31 thefamilygrog66 this wasn't that bad for mid'70s
02:32 Peacock well canadian productions used to get alot more money from the gov't than they do now
02:32 Peacock damn NAFTA
02:32 paramat nice loops grog, especially the first, my ambient track uses a boss loop station (anagram: tits on a loop)
02:33 thefamilygrog66 right on, I just use my line6 delay modeler
02:33 thefamilygrog66 harlan ellison (babylon 5) did the starlost, btw
02:33 Peacock babylon 5 sucked though :/
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02:34 Peacock the acting sucked dead man's balls, the CGI looks dated, and the aliens were ridiculous lol
02:35 thefamilygrog66 ok, he also wrote an episode of star trek
02:36 Peacock early tng also looks dated (manskirts) though writing isnt the same as producing
02:37 Peacock i still find it comical that MJS blames DS9 for his series sucking so hard lol
02:39 thefamilygrog66 best star trek episode of all time: http://youtu.be/-pNQYHvhnms
02:39 Peacock apart from both shows being set on a space station, they didn't have much in common
02:40 NakedFury the world needs a new star trek series
02:40 Peacock id wait till JJ dies
02:40 Peacock otherwise he'll likely write it
02:41 NakedFury I also noticed that while in some episodes Picard didnt help people because of the prime directive he was quick to help others and ignoring it
02:41 Peacock that was Janeway
02:41 Peacock but what do you expect from a woman captain? :P
02:41 Peacock if voyager could help itself, it would because of the prime directive, but if they saw something they felt was wrong, they *had* to stick their noses in it :P
02:41 NakedFury there was an episode about a whole planet being drugged by another planet
02:42 Peacock TNG
02:42 NakedFury thats Picard too
02:42 Peacock and they didn't violate the PD, they simply refused to provide parts to fix their ships for drug-runs
02:42 NakedFury AFTER knowing what it would do to give parts
02:43 thefamilygrog66 samaritan somethingorother
02:43 thefamilygrog66 snare?
02:43 Peacock i think that was the boobytrap episode
02:43 thefamilygrog66 you can fix it, make us go?
02:43 thefamilygrog66 we collect things that make us go
02:43 Peacock Symbiosis is the episode with the drug dealers
02:43 thefamilygrog66 you're smart
02:44 Peacock samaritan snare is with the space-fearing retards you're right
02:44 Peacock and booby trap is the episode with the ancient warship and the booby trap
02:44 Peacock *space-faring
02:45 thexyz "report" link on forums look too similar to "reply"; people sometimes misuse it, what should we do?
02:45 NakedFury Starfleet captains are very meddlesome
02:46 NewCoder Indeed!
02:46 NewCoder Prime Directive Be Damned!
02:46 Peacock ban users who use report as troublemakers
02:46 thefamilygrog66 is "report" really necessary?
02:46 NakedFury there is something going on weird that has nothing to do with them. FUCK IT im gonna make it my problem
02:47 NakedFury if Picard smells mistery he becomes the most meddlesome person in the galaxy
02:47 thefamilygrog66 ban all users
02:47 Peacock yes, ban them all as communist agitators
02:48 Peacock </McCarthy>
02:48 thefamilygrog66 Lenin and McCarthy were a good songwriting team. Oh wait. I mean political opposites.
02:49 Peacock well McCarthy was probably legitimately concerned about spies, but too paranoid to be competent about it lol
02:50 Peacock total lack of fear and excessive amounts of fear lead to the same things
02:54 thefamilygrog66 I'm gonna watch some low budget sci fi and fall asleep - later folks!
02:55 thexyz Peacock: I'll start with myself then, I once used it too
02:55 Peacock uhm, used what? lool
02:56 Peacock im watching oliver stone's JFK
02:56 Peacock ah, grog is already gone
02:56 Peacock also got oliver stone's Nixon lined up in the playlist
02:58 thexyz Peacock: "report" link
02:58 thexyz instead of reply
02:58 thexyz it's confusing
02:59 Peacock i guess its because they both start by "Rep"
02:59 thexyz right
02:59 Peacock though i tend to use 'quote' so i dont get them mixed up as much
02:59 Peacock maybe, Icons instead?
02:59 Peacock an exclamation mark for report
03:00 thexyz perhaps just color "Reply" in green
03:00 Peacock or you could move Report to another spot
03:00 Peacock top of the post?
03:00 sdzen or a picture of a policeman attacking a computer.
03:00 Peacock works too lol
03:01 Peacock either way, proximity and similarity don't help lol
03:09 kaeza a white-on-blue color scheme for Reply?
03:10 Peacock well anything that differentiates Reply from Report would probably help :P
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03:10 sdzen why don't we combine them?
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03:20 cy1 How's about we get hash trees for media transfer in minetest?
03:20 cy1 That way you don't have to check every single file when connecting after you downloaded, only the root hash.
03:21 cy1 And if only some of the files changed, you only have to check the hashes for those.
03:25 dumdidum i'm using moreores mod but it seems that i don't get tin, silver and mithril ... i'm using minetest 0.4.7-dev
03:26 dumdidum any ideas?
03:27 kaeza are you sure you enabled it?
03:28 dumdidum it's shown under 'installed mods'
03:28 kaeza do the items appear in creative mode inventory?
03:28 Miner_48er /mods from within server
03:28 kaeza also, note that the ores only appear in areas not generated yet
03:30 dumdidum can't find it in creative mode ...
03:31 dumdidum i can't find any item added by mods ...
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03:31 Miner_48er what shows up with the /mods cmd?
03:32 kaeza dumdidum, in singleplayer tab, hit 'Configure' and enable mods there
03:34 dumdidum ok, i enabled the mods. but now i get an error message ^^
03:35 Miner_48er what is the message?
03:35 dumdidum thats the problem. it's not shown completely ...
03:36 dumdidum error: moderror: failed to load and run
03:36 dumdidum than a path, but it's not complete ...
03:37 Miner_48er check the end of the debug.txt file
03:37 Miner_48er located in the minetest folder
03:40 dumdidum it's not in the debug.txt but on the terminal i have the messages :)
03:41 dumdidum it's an error with the modname. it does not follow naming conventions. i will try to change it
03:41 Miner_48er ok
03:43 dumdidum seems good
03:43 dumdidum thank you :)
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06:27 sfan5 hi everyone
06:33 nore hi sfan5
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06:45 nore sfan5, was group:stick finally added to minetest_game?
06:48 sfan5 I don't think it was
06:49 nore was wasn't it merged? It looks like PA agreed
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07:42 reactor Ehlo.
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08:22 reactor Hell.
08:23 reactor Why don't some people indent their code?
08:23 cy1 reactor: because they use notepad?
08:23 reactor This one uses gedit.
08:23 cy1 Well there you have it.
08:23 reactor And I already told him it's incomprehensible and leads to errors.
08:23 reactor :(
08:24 cy1 Is it minetest related...?
08:24 reactor Back in the day, I used it myself, but I _never ever_ skimped on code formatting.
08:24 reactor Partially.
08:24 reactor That person is by far not a slob in everything else. But why does that happen?
08:25 cy1 Hubris I guess.
08:25 reactor Oh.
08:25 cy1 Everyone wants to be the genius whose code works miraculously.
08:25 reactor Probably.
08:26 cy1 I had a fun idea for a technic dam the other day.
08:26 cy1 A machine that produces exponentially more power the more water blocks deep upstream, but only works if there are no water blocks downstream.
08:27 reactor hmm?
08:27 cy1 I don't think it would be too hard to check 8 blocks above for water, and a few blocks around for air...
08:28 cy1 Then you line the bottom of your dam with these devices, and hook them up to a battery box.
08:29 reactor yep
08:29 cy1 idk it'd be better to fix the damn supply converter bug.
08:29 reactor By the way, has this ever been fixed in mesecons: two doors facing  each other will always be one open, the other one closed.
08:30 reactor I mean, if you connect mesecons to them, say, to make them open automatically for you.
08:30 cy1 What's the use case for two doors facing each other...
08:31 cy1 Salloon style double doors?
08:35 arsdragonfly what's that supply converter bug?
08:37 reactor Yes, cy1.
08:38 reactor Some buildinds I ported from Minecraft have them.
08:38 reactor Also, has anyone implemented glass doors?
08:38 reactor I don't see using glass doors texture on wooden doors convenient.
08:39 reactor Because sometimes you need plain doors as well.
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08:40 germa hi...
08:41 germa sorry, i don't find the solution... i create my server game, send my ip to my friends and they can't connect
08:41 germa i open the ports but nothing
08:42 pitriss germa: do you have public IP?
08:42 cy1 reactor: It's not a bug persay, but to make doors that open that way you need to have one open and the other closed. They're actually aligned 90 degrees to each other, so when only one is open, they both block off the doorway.
08:42 pitriss If you are behind nat then it will not work
08:42 cy1 reactor: So you just have to use a not gate to invert the signal for the door that isn't working right for you.
08:43 germa my public ip?
08:43 cy1 as for glass doors, hm...
08:44 cy1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4965 might work.
08:44 germa you want my publkic ip?
08:44 reactor cy1: the problem is that I use pressure plates right in front of them
08:44 cy1 reactor: http://minetest-home-decor.wikia.com​/wiki/Minetest_Home_Decor_Wiki#Doors also has glass doors
08:44 reactor To make them let you out without effort
08:44 cy1 Huh, don't know if they respond to mesecon signals.
08:44 reactor Uh?
08:45 cy1 I'll go check!
08:46 germa ahah
08:47 cy1 ah, interestingly the homedecor doors can be crafted to left opening or right opening.
08:48 cy1 they don't respond to mesecons though :(
08:49 cy1 VanessaE: Your homedecor doors don't open with pressure plates!
08:51 cy1 VanessaE: Also the right-opening glass door has the sounds mixed up, the open sound for closing and the close sound for opening!
08:54 cy1 VanessaE: or uh... it's the left-opening one that's backwards if the doors are supposed to face each other.
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09:54 * Jordach installs Lua to flash drive
09:57 cy1 dammit...
09:57 * Jordach attaches another account to Thunderbird
09:58 cy1 http://pastebin.com/yYAf08ua
09:58 cy1 something something metatables grumble
09:58 cy1 I think table.copy will fix that stuff.
09:59 nore cy1, that is known since a long time
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09:59 nore you should look at clone_node in pipeworks
10:00 nore hi PilzAdam
10:00 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:00 cy1 nore: yeah w/ev
10:03 * arsdragonfly doubts if he was a retard in face of his maths homework
10:03 reactor Pwned.
10:03 reactor anunakki: calculus, right?
10:03 reactor Oops.
10:03 reactor arsdragonfly*
10:04 arsdragonfly proof of inequalities actually
10:05 reactor What semester?
10:05 arsdragonfly 1st semester of 10th grade
10:06 reactor I don't get it why school students are moaning about their homework.
10:06 reactor How will you hack it at uni if you're not able to do anything now?
10:07 reactor Grow some muscle up there, man!
10:07 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
10:07 arsdragonfly hmmmm ok
10:07 * MinetestBot purrs.
10:09 reactor Inequalities are not actually that hard if you remember the basic rules.
10:09 VanessaE good morning
10:10 reactor Mowing, VanessaE.
10:12 Jordach hey VanessaE
10:14 Jordach the i5's i work with in the computing are man enough to handle blender's internals (3 seconds per 720p frame btw, that's not bad!)
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10:16 Jordach im currently thinking of an experimental game mode
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10:18 TheLastProject 0.3FPS sounds like a decent framerate, yes
10:18 Jordach TheLastProject, i meant hitting ctrl + f12
10:18 Jordach the viewport is 60fps all the way
10:18 TheLastProject You need 3 seconds to press Ctrl+F12?
10:18 Jordach TheLastProject, nope.
10:19 Jordach rendering the final image sequence (eg, a single frame in a film) takes three seconds to generate from my camera
10:19 Jordach s/my/the
10:19 TheLastProject Hmm
10:19 Jordach not to mention it takes ~30 on my pentium 4
10:20 TheLastProject Heh, even I have something faster than a Pentium 4
10:20 Jordach TheLastProject, i prefer things that last over the latest :P
10:20 cy1 OK I've got double glass doors working, and bonus trap doors working too. Not homedecor of course, but the doors mod jeija already had supporting code for.
10:21 TheLastProject Same here
10:21 Jordach TheLastProject, my elderly Acer Aspire is 7 years old
10:21 VanessaE y u no use homedecor doors? :(
10:22 Jordach (and the final processor i can get is a intel core duo)
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10:34 john_minetest Hello everypony
10:34 cy1 dear princess celestia today I stayed up too late again wasting my life on automated doors code
10:37 reactor john_minetest: you forgot "and everybody else"
10:38 germa I lose
10:38 reactor In that case, I will not say hello to you.
10:39 john_minetest reactor: I only adressed every pony
10:39 john_minetest hi reactor
10:39 reactor Now, hi.
10:39 reactor How's the science?
10:39 reactor Btw, facility?
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10:48 cy1 reactor: https://github.com/Jeija/min​etest-mod-mesecons/pull/122
10:48 reactor Eh?
10:48 cy1 c: hope it gets pulled.
10:48 cy1 It makes mesecons work for glass doors, like it does for wood and steel ones.
10:49 reactor Oh, good.
10:49 reactor But how about the double-door rotation problem?
10:49 reactor Does it address it
10:49 cy1 also removes a lot of hacky hardcoded sheist
10:49 reactor s/$/?/
10:49 cy1 I got double doors working just fine, reactor. Just put a not gate facing the one that appears to open when power is taken away.
10:50 cy1 recipe = con | torch | con
10:50 reactor that'd prevent me from using pressure plate as doormat
10:51 cy1 ...oh
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10:51 cy1 huh, well maybe VanessaE's homedecor mod has a clue how to trick doors into swapping open and closed states for right-facing-ones.
10:52 reactor yep
10:52 VanessaE yeah, they're sorta hard-coded :P
10:52 VanessaE I kinda brute-forced it
10:52 reactor why don't these doors face automatically like the usual ones?
10:52 cy1 shouldn't be hard to abstract out though. just swap b_1 and b_2 node defs.
10:52 VanessaE because I never added the necessary code to do that
10:53 VanessaE reactor: pull requests welcome :
10:53 VanessaE :P
10:53 cy1 minetest doors never face automatically reactor.
10:53 cy1 Not even the wood ones.
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10:53 reactor mk
10:53 reactor I wish I knew LUA.
10:53 cy1 It wouldn't be impossible to implement, but hasn't been done yet.
10:53 reactor s/knew/had known/
10:54 reactor cy1: don't they?
10:54 reactor cy1: they do
10:54 cy1 ?
10:54 reactor depending on player rotation, and doors already existing  next to them
10:54 reactor no?
10:54 reactor Or I'm not getting the terminology right.
10:56 germa why? why? my friend can't connect my "server"? why? im unlucky player
10:57 germa another good boy from here can connect.. but my friends no... the computers are bad
10:57 cy1 Huh, so they do. VanessaE, you should use the doors mod! I think it does that auto-orient thing.
10:57 reactor germa: ?
10:57 reactor germa: what OS?
10:57 VanessaE meh
10:57 reactor You should probably use a quality, well-supported OS, germa.
10:57 germa i have lubuntu and my friends windows
10:58 reactor That. Ubuntu is neither quality nor well-supported.
10:58 reactor Let alone windows.
10:58 VanessaE unlike the default doors mod, mine has separate images for left/right so that the shadowing doesn't get mirrored.
10:58 reactor Slap your friends for being slobs.
10:58 reactor And tell them they should compile the latest version.
10:59 germa :)
10:59 reactor Version incompatibility, probably.
10:59 reactor You could at least convice them to dual-boot with some nice OS.
10:59 john_minetest reactor: BSD is a german association of people owning whorehouses.
10:59 john_minetest ;)
10:59 reactor john_minetest: but it's fun.
10:59 germa my friend try to convice me
11:00 cy1 pth, Ubuntu is fine
11:00 john_minetest reactor: That sounds so wrong...
11:00 germa ubuntu is fine... im not fine
11:00 reactor oh yeah, falling apart after every update is so fine, cy1!
11:00 cy1 but yeah, different versions of minetest = problems
11:00 cy1 reactor: How dare you try to customize your toolbar, you Gnome hater!
11:00 reactor john_minetest: what's wrong about paying for it?
11:00 john_minetest Huh?
11:00 germa yes maybe is the version
11:01 reactor cy1: ?
11:01 reactor cy1: I don't use any toolbars, fyi.
11:01 john_minetest reactor: BSD is a german association of people owning whorehouses. -> john_minetest: but it's fun.
11:01 reactor They're schtupid.
11:01 cy1 reactor: Just stirring the pot.
11:01 germa i have g382... and my friends 382... without the "g"
11:01 reactor cy1: oh. Whatever is cooking is ready.
11:02 * reactor pours some neurotoxin on cy1. There you are.
11:02 cy1 BSD a german association of people owning whorehouses, should be free! *marches on Dusseldorf*
11:02 john_minetest I could eat something...
11:02 reactor john_minetest: whores are honest.
11:02 reactor You pay - you do them.
11:02 john_minetest Most, yeah.
11:03 cy1 You know what they say.
11:03 reactor That, too.
11:03 john_minetest Some try to pull you into some drug thing and then you are addicted to those drugs and the whores get money from the dealers for that.
11:03 cy1 There are two kinds of women in the world. Whores, and liars.
11:04 reactor But let's stop this cynical conversation.
11:04 john_minetest What? Cynical?
11:04 cy1 <3
11:04 reactor For people don't like cynical people for some reason.
11:05 cy1 gee go figure
11:22 reactor ?
11:22 reactor john_minetest: facility?
11:23 john_minetest reactor: Playing portal2 right now
11:23 reactor mk
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11:52 pitriss please is there any way how to configure server to automatically remove dropped items after some time?
11:52 reactor hmm
11:53 reactor Is there still no remote console?
11:53 nore you should try PilzAdam's item_drop mod
11:53 reactor That's frustrating. If there was, there would be a way.
11:53 nore and modify it so it does not drop items
11:53 reactor You would be able to set cron to issue commands.
11:54 pitriss nore: hmm hmm i will look at it..
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12:26 Evergreen Hey everyone
12:26 Evergreen Oh hi there AspireMint!   Long time no see
12:27 nore hi Evergreen
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12:30 AspireMint Hello Evergreen :)
12:34 reactor o/ AspieMan
12:38 Jordach hey Evergreen
12:38 Jordach i ain't here today, and for most of tomorroqw
12:38 Jordach tomorrow*
12:38 Jordach but, afaik, the world is pretty much 1.0
12:38 reactor Evergreen: chainsaw?
12:39 Jordach (we need to lower the mese and diamond count!)
12:39 Evergreen Yes
12:39 Evergreen Yes to Jordach, not reactor
12:40 Jordach and the mese
12:41 reactor Evergreen: nobody's asking you. It's a statement.
12:41 * reactor cranks it up
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12:48 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/aN9ORHS
12:49 reactor ?
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12:59 IceCraft hi
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13:30 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/qGRbuVc
13:30 harrison sauce for the hoss, gruel for the mule
13:31 reactor hoes?
13:33 john_minetest Hi harrison
13:33 Exio4 i'll need to work or so :(
13:33 john_minetest Harrison: Who makes all the spasim videos?
13:35 harrison A mysterious syndicate of radical cinelerrists.
13:36 reactor SPA simulator?
13:36 reactor I've never understood what "SPA" means.
13:36 reactor I mean, the ?medical procedure.
13:36 reactor Pseudo-medical, rather.
13:36 reactor Snake oil.
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13:38 harrison or snake coil?
13:39 reactor Snake soil, I mean, turd.
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14:00 john_minetest Reactor: spa is a place in luxembourg. It was known as a wellness place for a long time. And then the word "Spa" was used for all wellness stuff.
14:00 john_minetest reactor: ^
14:00 reactor Oh.
14:00 reactor Mk.
14:01 john_minetest https://en.wikipedia.org/wi​ki/Spa#Origins_of_the_term
14:01 john_minetest Oops, it was belgium
14:02 john_minetest benelux countries
14:02 reactor Dr. Evil is from Belgium.
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14:05 john_minetest harrison: Who made the spasim video about the meaning of realism and raytracing?
14:07 sfan5 finally
14:07 sfan5 frash xubuntu 13.10 install
14:08 reactor Ubuntu...
14:08 john_minetest yum frash.
14:08 sfan5 fresh*
14:08 sfan5 reactor: at least not unity
14:09 reactor Mkay.
14:09 reactor I wonder how people manage to run Ubuntu without it breaking after update.
14:09 reactor Debina, in general.
14:09 reactor s/ina/ian/
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14:21 Ditti reactor: that's pretty easy - just don't screw up the dependencies :D
14:21 reactor A friend of mine always gets his video login killed after update.
14:22 Ditti not bad, haven't managed to do this yet :D
14:22 reactor I mean, the whole X11 stops working.
14:23 john_minetest video login... pah
14:23 john_minetest once used it but it was so creepy that I returned to agetty.
14:23 reactor Yes, there is text login as well.
14:23 reactor Well. I prefer video.
14:23 reactor Because it saves time.
14:23 john_minetest how?
14:24 reactor 1) you don't have to exit X to change user
14:24 Exio4 that is DE-dependant, lets say
14:24 john_minetest when do you change user?
14:24 Exio4 and you can have multiple TTYs
14:24 reactor 2) it starts X _before_ you decide to login, thus saving you time waiting for startx
14:24 john_minetest I never changed user ever
14:24 john_minetest 1.: I never changed user ever
14:25 reactor Who cares about console terminals, Exio4, you can't do much work there.
14:25 john_minetest 2.: That way I have to wait for X starting _before_ I login
14:25 Ditti well, that's wrong, reactor.
14:25 reactor Exio4: I use X mainly as a terminal multiplexor, though.
14:25 Exio4 reactor: your cpu must be crappy, even my netbook can start X11 in less than one second
14:25 harrison john_minetest: it must have been someone very special, don't you think?
14:25 john_minetest And when I want to work on the tty I have to quit x
14:25 harrison i mean,
14:25 harrison obv
14:26 john_minetest harrison: Pro - The voice is quite good and the video shows interesting things.
14:26 Exio4 reactor: my only usage of X11 is web browsing and games
14:26 reactor I rely on copypaste.
14:26 reactor And I need to see more than one terminal sometimes.
14:26 john_minetest harrison: Contra - The echo makes the voice hard to understand and the music suddenly comes in so a part of the explanation is lost.
14:27 harrison not bug. feature. deliberate
14:27 reactor Besides, it would be tricky to make the system have, say, 30 console TTYs.
14:27 harrison The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.
14:27 john_minetest reactor: if I do <boot>-><startx>->login->WM or <boot>->login>->startx->WM doesn't make any difference.
14:27 Ditti why would anyone need 30 console windows? :D
14:27 reactor john_minetest: ?
14:28 reactor john_minetest: I usually leave the system alone to boot.
14:28 john_minetest ?
14:28 reactor john_minetest: because heck, I could teleport to the kitchen to drink water and back while it does.
14:29 Exio4 reactor: tmux/screen
14:29 reactor Exio4: I need to browse periodically.
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14:29 Exio4 without KMS, i way prefer X11 alone
14:29 reactor Exio4: and how about GNUPLOT in tmux?
14:29 john_minetest What is the difference between "logging in and starting x" and "starting x and logging in" except that you have to kill x when you want to work on the tty?
14:29 john_minetest reactor: ^
14:30 harrison xmonad4lyfe
14:30 Exio4 you don't have to kill X11 to work on a tty
14:30 reactor john_minetest: what?
14:30 Ditti john: you need to login to use startx, don't you?
14:30 reactor john_minetest: 1) it spares you a tty 2) you don't have to wait for X11 to start every time you log in.
14:31 Exio4 what LM do you use?
14:31 john_minetest harrison: once got xmonad. So beautiful. But I lost my perfect config and never got such a great one anymore. Then switched to dwm and then i3.
14:31 * Exio4 uses dwm :P
14:31 john_minetest reactor: 1) the tty starts - if you use X11 or not.
14:31 john_minetest reactor: 2) I don't care about those 5 seconds.
14:32 john_minetest reactor: 3) But I CARE about the 15 seconds I need to log out to tty when I want to do proper stuff.
14:32 reactor You must have too much spare time.
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14:32 reactor Proper stuff can be done in a good X setup.
14:32 Ditti you don't care about 5 seconds but 15 seconds are way too much?
14:33 reactor And that.
14:33 reactor You just need a better window manager, john_minetest.
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14:33 reactor You're probably using some mouse-reliant one.
14:33 john_minetest reactor: dwm and i3.
14:34 reactor How come you need console?
14:34 nore I use i3 ;)
14:34 reactor You can spawn lots of terminals.
14:34 reactor Without ever needing to move the ugly rodent.
14:34 john_minetest reactor: Things like GNU screen don't work in X. I need a tty for that.
14:34 reactor GNU screen does.
14:34 harrison john_minetest: i sometimes need to use xfce because cinelerra and xmonad seem not to mix -- i don't use a custom xmonad at all -- so another tiling wm might work as well
14:35 reactor Also, what do you use GNU Screen for, john_minetest?
14:35 Exio4 detaching/attaching back
14:35 reactor It's often misused to spawn daemons.
14:35 Exio4 john_minetest: it works in X11
14:35 john_minetest reactor: configuring a router that hasn't got a VGA port
14:35 reactor While that should be done via rc scripts.
14:35 Exio4 reactor: my irc client runs in a screen session
14:35 harrison the only advantage of another tiling wm would be that xmonad needs all the haskell packages
14:35 john_minetest Exio4: didn't when I tried it
14:35 reactor Exio4: good.
14:36 harrison why not use quassel instead of irc client + screen?
14:36 Exio4 harrison: haskell is awesome, enough reasons to use xmonad? :D
14:36 reactor Quassel?
14:36 Exio4 because quassel is shit harrison
14:36 john_minetest harrison: I would retry xmonad when i had a good config
14:36 Ditti http://quassel-irc.org iirc
14:36 Exio4 weechat > quassel
14:36 reactor Isn't quassel graphical?
14:36 john_minetest weechat-ncurses is nice.
14:36 Ditti it is
14:36 harrison well, i thought so, but i have not actually coded in haskell yet
14:36 reactor And GUI is the last thing IRC needs.
14:36 reactor So it's crap.
14:37 harrison no ur
14:37 john_minetest GUIs for irc are useful
14:37 reactor s/ful/less/
14:37 Exio4 tell me how they are useful
14:37 Exio4 and i'll give you a pony
14:37 reactor Exactly.
14:37 Ditti did you just change the roles, john and reactor? :D
14:37 john_minetest looking for channels where something changed is MUCH EASIER to see in a GUI IRC client.
14:37 reactor Ditti: ?
14:37 Exio4 lol Ditti
14:37 reactor Ditti: what roles?!
14:37 Exio4 john_minetest: why?
14:38 Ditti reactor: you were defending X some seconds ago and now john defends GUIs for IRC :D
14:38 harrison the pony talk makes you seem like you might be a brony Exio4
14:38 reactor No.
14:38 john_minetest Ditti: I said that graphical login managers are crap, not that Xorg or GUIs are crap (Well, X is crap)
14:38 reactor X != GUI.
14:38 reactor Heck, Ditti, I've already said I use X as a terminal muxor.
14:38 Exio4 harrison: i'm not a fan of my little pony
14:38 Exio4 multiplexor
14:38 Ditti i'm sorry :c
14:38 * Exio4 multiplexes reactor
14:38 reactor harrison: john_minetest is.
14:39 harrison omg no!
14:39 * reactor demultiplexes Exio4.
14:39 * harrison flinches in horror
14:39 Exio4 http://imgur.com/gallery/fZ21pcz
14:39 john_minetest Exio4: I used weechat and I had difficulties looking over all the open tabs and stuff. In graphical chat clients stuff is highlighted and I can simply change channel to look why I was pinged.
14:39 reactor harrison: would you like to talk about it?
14:40 Exio4 john_minetest: when i'm pinged in channel "31" (minetest-dev here), i can just do alt-j31 and switch to it, or use a script like buffers.pl, normally used with weechat, for switching using the mouse within a X11 terminal and shits
14:40 Exio4 you can even drag&drop buffers to reorganize with its mouse support...
14:43 harrison too soon reactor -- this whole brony trip is like freaking me out
14:44 reactor harrison: would you like to talk about this problem?
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14:44 reactor I mean, eh. I'm interested in understanding _their_ problem.
14:46 harrison http://archive.is/m2mAf
14:47 reactor ?
14:47 reactor !title
14:47 MinetestBot reactor: pr/2012-01-24-gnaa-brony – GNAA – Gay Nigger Association of America
14:47 reactor And?
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15:12 harrison the gnaa is opposed to bronyism
15:12 harrison just saying
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15:16 markveidemanis Hi
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15:17 reactor markveidemanis: o/
15:18 harrison http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20​13/10/25/secret-google-facility-fou​nd-floating-on-san-francisco-bay/
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15:23 john_minetest dum dum duuuuum
15:24 harrison not really. it appears to be a poorly thought out attempt at a floating google glass store.
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15:25 reactor rsiska: where's lsiska?
15:26 reactor Mastectomy?
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15:49 hoodedice Anyone?
15:49 reactor ?
15:49 markveidemanis Is there a such thing as an arduino-with-screen but programmable with pythoN?
15:50 markveidemanis Like a neat laptop
15:50 markveidemanis But small
15:50 hoodedice No, but you can get a screen seperately
15:50 stormchaser3000 oh and mark i can not get on our android serer
15:50 markveidemanis I mean like a err... one of those old ones
15:50 markveidemanis but smaller
15:50 markveidemanis i want an input, a screen and an external interface
15:50 hoodedice I would prefer a raspi with 2 GB RAM, Adreno 305 and a 2.3 GHz Quad core processor
15:51 markveidemanis I prefer ...fucking hell...
15:51 markveidemanis i prefer not plugging it in
15:51 hoodedice I heard the latest Snapdragon's got 2.3 GHz
15:51 john_minetest I would prefer a quantum computer
15:51 markveidemanis Ive got a computer
15:51 reactor I prefer not fucking the hell.
15:51 markveidemanis Same
15:51 reactor Because if hell fucks you, what are you gonna do?
15:51 hoodedice Me too ^.^
15:52 hoodedice hel''s got a genital?
15:52 markveidemanis Im gonna do anal to the devil if it dares
15:52 markveidemanis Anyway the budget's about £30
15:52 hoodedice And get that pointy thing in your face?
15:52 markveidemanis 50 MAX
15:52 hoodedice Ewww
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15:53 markveidemanis http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&amp;rlz=1C1MS​IM_enGB549GB549&amp;espv=210&amp;es_sm=93&amp;biw​=1366&amp;bih=667&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=LnrouwsL​Yq2uZM:&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.tomsguide.com/us​/is-toshiba-u100-s213-the-ultra-lightweight-lapto​p-champ,review-630.html&amp;docid=p1d4Sjyf8aETIM&​amp;imgurl=http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2006/01​/25/is_toshiba_u100_s213_the_ultra_lightweight_la​ptop_champ/toshiba_libretto_u100_s213_opening_
15:53 markveidemanis shot.jpg&w=425&h=403&ei=ZOVrUv_LGdOqhAemrYHACA&z​oom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:12,s:0,i:118&iact=rc&page=1&​tbnh=187&tbnw=193&start=0&ndsp=17&tx=142&ty=96
15:53 markveidemanis Thats one link
15:53 hoodedice I never really got the thing about arduino
15:53 markveidemanis let me use goo.gl...
15:53 reactor Meh, I would trade myself to the devil if it existed. I would buy immortality, hence I would never die, and never serve it anyway.
15:53 markveidemanis http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2006/01/25/is_to​shiba_u100_s213_the_ultra_lightweight_laptop_ch​amp/toshiba_libretto_u100_s213_opening_shot.jpg
15:53 markveidemanis screw it
15:54 hoodedice How much is 50 of that money in USD?
15:54 markveidemanis http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons​/d/da/Small_Fujitsu_Lifebook_810U_Laptop.jpg
15:54 markveidemanis combine them and boom!
15:54 markveidemanis you're done
15:54 markveidemanis I bet it costs a fortune though
15:55 hoodedice The Open Pandora is good
15:55 hoodedice But costs like, hell
15:55 hoodedice https://www.dragonbox.de/en/2​7-main-consoles-and-upgrades
15:55 Calinou <hoodedice> I heard the latest Snapdragon's got 2.3 GHz
15:56 Calinou frequency != performance
15:56 Calinou the Snapdragon 800 is fast... for an ARM CPU
15:56 sfan5 wtf xubuntu
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15:56 Calinou it won't beat a celeron G1610 :p
15:56 hoodedice hmm
15:56 markveidemanis I have 2 cores with 3GHz each, im happy.
15:56 reactor sfan5: you should have said that some years ago.
15:56 Calinou markveidemanis: same, doesn't mean anything :P
15:56 markveidemanis 4GB rajm
15:56 reactor rajm
15:56 markveidemanis *RAM
15:56 markveidemanis I think i will switch to xubuntu
15:56 sfan5 xubuntu kills the networking when it goes to standby
15:57 reactor markveidemanis: do not.
15:57 markveidemanis If i can get the fucker to work
15:57 reactor markveidemanis: use BSD.
15:57 markveidemanis il give it a go...
15:57 markveidemanis TP-LINK TL-WDN3200 it needs to work with
15:57 reactor s/use/try/
15:57 reactor At least try it.
15:57 markveidemanis freebsd.
15:58 reactor If you don't like it, you will at least have right to say it's crap etc.
15:58 reactor Yes, freebsd would be suitable.
15:58 john_minetest and openbsd?
15:59 markveidemanis http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SainSmart-LCD-1602-Ke​ypad-Shield-For-Arduino-Due-Duemilanove-UNO-R3-​Mega2560-R3-/300998780526?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_​Components_Supplies_ET&amp;hash=item4614ece66e
15:59 reactor NetBSD and OpenBSD don't support graphics, afaik.
15:59 markveidemanis sort of like this im looking for
15:59 reactor s/graphics/3D graphics/
15:59 markveidemanis but with a keyboard instead of bumb buttons
15:59 reactor Eh?
15:59 john_minetest markveidemanis: gentoo is very nice :)
15:59 reactor Gentoo is not.
15:59 reactor It's for ricers.
15:59 john_minetest It's a metadistribution but difficult.
16:00 markveidemanis bsd...2.4GB...
16:00 markveidemanis Later
16:00 reactor ...that only brag about perceived performance etc.
16:00 john_minetest ricers? Machines that press potatoes?
16:00 reactor markveidemanis: what, the FreeBSD distribution is not bigger than 700M
16:00 john_minetest Archlinux is only 500
16:00 markveidemanis ..
16:00 john_minetest ;)
16:00 markveidemanis gentoo for arm>
16:01 john_minetest archlinuxarm.org
16:01 reactor john_minetest: no, people who sit all night to set up compilter flags to push last 1% of performance out of them
16:01 john_minetest performance is important.
16:01 reactor It is.
16:01 reactor But not 0.000001%
16:01 john_minetest It might be the cent that you don't have to pay your electricity bill.
16:02 Calinou <sfan5> xubuntu kills the networking when it goes to standby
16:02 Calinou on my netbook I suspended by mistake, I resumed, network works
16:02 Calinou 13.10
16:02 Calinou wireless used is atheros
16:02 sfan5 same version and wireless
16:02 sfan5 it disabled networking but won't enable it again
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16:03 reactor OldCoder: you're old.
16:03 Calinou try enabling it using hardware switch or key combination
16:03 john_minetest reactor: Never tell people you don't really know that they are old.
16:03 sfan5 I don't have hardware switch
16:04 john_minetest reactor: Some might react very pissed.
16:04 Calinou tell them they're young then
16:04 reactor OldCoder: you're young.
16:04 VanessaE hi all
16:04 reactor Well, you will be. If you upgrade to NewCoder, OldCoder.
16:05 john_minetest hey VanessaE
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16:07 OldCoder Hi!
16:07 OldCoder reactor, I like you
16:07 reactor Thank you.
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16:08 OldCoder john_minetest, VanessaE, others my life remains in transition. I must work the next 32 hours without a break. But I do love this project and will make things work again.
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16:08 VanessaE take your time, OC.
16:08 OldCoder This is a perfect example of a potential FOSS success story
16:08 OldCoder mrtux, Good morning
16:08 germa hi
16:09 sfan5 morning? It is 18:08 for me
16:09 reactor Mowing.
16:09 sfan5 lol @ http://0hgame.eu/
16:10 germa for me to... is 18:09
16:11 john_minetest sfan5: Lol, I think I will participate there. Sounds AWESOME!
16:12 * sfan5 needs an idea
16:12 germa can i have the same latest build for lubuntu? http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/
16:13 john_minetest sfan5: Wanna form a team?
16:13 john_minetest I got one idea that could be nice.
16:13 john_minetest pm me. I'll be back in 20 minutes.
16:14 sfan5 germa: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837
16:16 germa thank you sfan... i have this... ahah i think have problem of compatibilty for multiplayer with my friends
16:16 germa no way for me... ahah give up... i lose
16:16 sfan5 soundcloud is broken  again
16:16 Calinou moreblocks update is out
16:17 VanessaE yay!
16:18 Calinou I added 14/16 and 15/16 slabs too
16:18 Calinou and reorganized circular saw
16:18 germa i use soundcloud with firefox and play
16:19 harrison VanessaE: i saw your creative server the other day. i particularly enjoyed the lilypads.
16:19 fairiestoy A european evening. A question please: In which cases can minetest.get_craft_result({method = "fuel", width = 1, items = fuellist}) fail means i get not  result.item reference?
16:19 VanessaE harrison: thanks :)
16:20 harrison are they your innovation?
16:20 VanessaE nope
16:20 Calinou here's an open box: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82​342922/temp/screenshot_4119867100.png
16:20 VanessaE originally ironzorg's work
16:21 VanessaE I expanded them to use facedir and have 16 possible orientations, and made them use plants_lib, then Mossmanikin (or maybe it was Neuromancer) made better textures for them
16:21 harrison so you are sort of a coder!
16:22 harrison all lua i suppose
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16:22 harrison pardon the exclamation point
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16:25 VanessaE me?  very much so
16:25 VanessaE but not all in Lua.
16:26 VanessaE started with BASIC, then 6502 assembly, dabbled in C and C++, verilog, python, bash, Lua,...
16:26 VanessaE a tad of javascript, and HTML if you count that.
16:27 nore Calinou, for moreblocks I have a suggestion
16:28 harrison I have heard of the lady coder, but only in the same way that one hears of the unicorn
16:28 VanessaE harrison: yes, we actually do exist :)
16:28 harrison or other possibly apocryphal, shining thing
16:28 nore make some raytracing to that you can place a microblock on a slab, for example, and get a new block
16:28 VanessaE I just don't do as much coding as I used to.  kinda burnt out
16:28 nore instead of having to make them all with circular saw
16:29 harrison Attached to neither compilation nor execution, the enlightened coder flows through the keyboard
16:30 harrison it is attachment that causes burnout
16:32 Calinou is that even possible?
16:32 Calinou I'm not really a coder, so no idea how to do that
16:33 nore Calinou, yes it is
16:33 nore using item on_place
16:33 nore and then player:get_look_dir()
16:34 nore after that, trace a ray to the 3 different planed
16:34 nore look where it intersects
16:34 nore and place a microblock there
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16:38 VanessaE Calinou: um, bug...
16:38 VanessaE did you change something that breaks the stairsplus API?
16:39 VanessaE digging wool quarter slabs now gives unknown items
16:39 harrison is block splitting to microblock recursive?
16:39 VanessaE (wool stuff is in gloopblocks)
16:39 VanessaE harrison: no
16:39 harrison it could be.....
16:40 nore not without entities
16:41 harrison VanessaE, I know you have seen some of my films of the raytracer, but did you ever see any of the hybrid renderer which traces rays to find blocks and opengl to draw them?
16:41 VanessaE I don't recall seeing that, no
16:42 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YZjIZGl0yE
16:43 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3rPAx4kEe4
16:43 Calinou VanessaE: no?
16:43 Calinou the new slabs drop themselves by the way
16:43 VanessaE Calinou: come to my creative server
16:43 VanessaE so I can show you
16:43 Calinou no items were renamed
16:43 Calinou ok
16:43 harrison it worked well  -- but i got depressed not working on the real tracer, which can do mirrors and much more
16:44 harrison i don't think anyone else has ever made a hybrid renderer
16:44 VanessaE Calinou: 12:44:49: ACTION[ServerThread]: VanessaEzekowitz digs wool:slab_white_quarter at (-295,18,-373)
16:44 VanessaE give an unknown item.
16:45 VanessaE AH=
16:45 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xkMuqMb32M
16:45 VanessaE you went with numbers instead of words
16:45 Calinou yes
16:45 VanessaE 12:45:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: VanessaEzekowitz digs wool:slab_white_1 at (-295,18,-373)
16:45 VanessaE <--- 1/16 slab of the same material
16:45 VanessaE so you just need some alises
16:45 Calinou should have done that since the beginning
16:45 VanessaE aliases
16:45 Calinou not going to rename current slabs, too much pain I guess
16:45 Calinou (maybe it's easier since they already use 6d facedir)
16:45 VanessaE actually, you kinda did. :)
16:46 Calinou only the new ones were renamed
16:46 VanessaE the mod that provides those wool slabs predates the 1/16 slab change
16:46 VanessaE so just add some aliases for the previous slab sizes
16:47 VanessaE I can do that for gloopblocks, but if you do it in moreblocks it'll cover all the mods that might run into that
16:48 Calinou which aliases?
16:48 Calinou I don't get it
16:50 VanessaE Calinou: you're not dropping the item that's actually in the world
16:50 VanessaE you're dropping the numbered version, which is not defined
16:50 VanessaE come to where I am
16:50 VanessaE (the black brick building north of the spawn)
16:53 Calinou ok
16:54 VanessaE dig a ceiling wool slab
16:54 VanessaE ok, try one of the streets sidewalks
16:57 VanessaE 12:57:26: ACTION[ServerThread]: Calinou digs wool:slab_white_quarter at (-311,17,-407)
16:58 VanessaE Calinou: here's the loop that handles the wool slabs in gloopblocks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6307401/
16:59 Calinou :/
16:59 VanessaE did I bwoke it? :)
17:00 Calinou don't know
17:22 nore hey, for the workbenches mods: has anyone ever tried that: https://gist.github.com/Novatux/7172171
17:23 nore work very good for me!
17:23 nore +s
17:23 nore no lag, no problem with it being the same as player inventory
17:23 nore is short: perfect
17:24 john_minetest what the ...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyjw0ZLyzpE
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17:27 nore VanessaE, did you see that? IIRC, you wanted a workbench in the default game... ^
17:27 nore hi rubenwardy
17:27 rubenwardy Hi
17:27 VanessaE nore: I think the default game needs 4x4 and 5x5 crafing tables like darkrose's workbench mod
17:27 nore yes, see that for good workbenches
17:27 VanessaE (I don't see any reason to separate the 3x3 grid out from the inventory, though)
17:27 nore I've never seen some that fine
17:28 nore you should test: no lag at all
17:29 VanessaE where does this code go?
17:29 rubenwardy ..and Hi all!
17:29 VanessaE hey rubenwardy
17:29 nore you can take 20 items at once if you want, middle click works, etc
17:29 VanessaE nore: I guess into a test mod?
17:29 nore yes, of course
17:29 nore and rename the workbench to something else
17:29 VanessaE testing it...
17:30 nore (what I really did was that I took a workbench mod and changed the code a bit)
17:31 nore only problem is that when you craft something and then you can't craft it, the craft preview doesn't disappear immediately
17:31 VanessaE it still lags a bit
17:32 nore no more that normal crafting
17:32 nore (except for the craftpreview to update)
17:32 VanessaE right
17:33 nore have you seen how it is done in the code?
17:33 nore btw, with minetest.register_on_craft, I reckon it will be possible to update the craftpreview so there will be no lag
17:33 VanessaE it looks like it lags quite a bit in singleplayer.  maybe that's the "server" lagging the client.
17:34 nore dunno, it does not lag for me
17:34 nore rubenwardy, see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls/966
17:34 nore you might like it
17:34 nore for your achievements mod
17:34 VanessaE you have to try it with a heavily-game e.g. where there's a lot of mapgen stuff
17:35 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/966
17:35 VanessaE er heavily-modded game
17:35 rubenwardy Awesome
17:35 nore I tried that while there was no mapgen (because I had to try several times to get it correct)
17:35 nore rubenwardy, thanks
17:37 VanessaE at any rate, the default game needs 4x4 and 5x5 tables.
17:37 VanessaE good recipes are getting harder and harder to make in 3x3
17:37 nore you should make a pull, with that code...
17:37 VanessaE why?  it'll just be ignored if I do it.
17:37 VanessaE or it'll be marked as low-priority
17:37 nore then why wouldn't it be if I do it?
17:37 VanessaE the devs hate you less ;)
17:38 nore low-priority is better than nothing
17:38 VanessaE besides, it's your code :_)
17:38 VanessaE :)
17:38 nore and you're the one that is in "contributors", not me
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18:38 kaeza evenings
18:38 VanessaE hi
18:38 reactor o/
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18:45 AspireMint Hello splash :)
18:46 splash Hi Aspire
18:46 splash How's things?
18:46 reactor AspieMint
18:46 reactor hello
18:50 VanessaE hey A<
18:50 VanessaE AM*
18:51 AspireMint Hello hello
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19:02 ShadowNinja Regarding recipes: It seems the code only supports specific types like normal and fuel and doesn't allow you to make your own types.
19:03 ShadowNinja That might be usefull for things like the alloy furnace, crushing furnace, and similar nodes.
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20:52 Dante123 Vanessa around?
20:53 sfan5 lol http://redd.it/1p9j9m
20:54 VanessaE hi
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21:00 Dante123 hi vanessaE, ive been trying to setup my server for student use (when I have had time on the weekends)...but it doesn;t work. Could it be that my "minetest.info.tm" ip link has expired?
21:01 Dante123 If so, how do I go about setting it up again.  I think you helped me originally, I don't remember the steps
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21:05 sfan5 Dante123: which provider does minetest.info.tm use
21:08 Dante123 could it be freedns or something like that?
21:09 john_minetest http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cat_kill
21:10 JackGruff >another joke about cats plotting to kill their owners
21:10 JackGruff >original
21:10 JackGruff pick one
21:10 JackGruff ;)
21:12 VanessaE Dante123: are you sure the server itself world?
21:12 VanessaE workd*
21:12 VanessaE BAH
21:12 VanessaE Dante123: are you sure the server itself works?
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21:24 Dante_Clone on my other computer.....
21:24 Dante_Clone where i have the script and server
21:25 Dante_Clone minetest_dns_update_2
21:26 Dante_Clone looks like freedns is what I was using
21:26 Exio4 oh god
21:27 Dante123 Well, the server seems to be working....locally at least
21:27 Dante123 im going back to the other pc and will start server again and see
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21:30 VanessaE can your students reach it by its IP address?
21:37 * NekoGloop curls up in VanessaE's lap
21:43 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head
21:44 Dante_Clone testing locally here first......
21:45 * NekoGloop purrs
21:48 * sfan5 puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head
21:49 * NekoGloop ok now my head hurts owowowow
21:51 * john_minetest takes a kitten away from NekoGloop's head and puts it on sfan5's head
21:52 sfan5 meow
21:52 * john_minetest purrs :3
21:52 Dante_Clone okay the server is working here locally
21:52 Dante_Clone using 192.xx.xx.xx lan address
21:52 john_minetest Since reactor doesn't like ponys I should chose "Hello everycat"
21:54 Dante_Clone okay Vanessa it is telling me the server is down.  So I run the minetest_dns_update script now
21:54 VanessaE yesh
21:54 VanessaE yes
21:55 VanessaE but remember that 192.xxxxx is not accessible to the outside world\
21:55 VanessaE only those on your LAN can see it
21:55 Dante_Clone Yes, just wanted to be sure it was working here locally.
21:55 VanessaE (well 192.168.xxx.xxx)
21:55 VanessaE ok
21:55 VanessaE you just have to make sure you run that update script every so often
21:55 Dante_Clone Now, in my router setup, I have put the server pc into DMZ
21:55 VanessaE once a day is sufficient
21:56 Dante_Clone but even after running the script, its still not working for outside connections.
21:56 Dante_Clone !up minetest.info.tm
21:56 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
21:56 VanessaE it may take a few minutes or hours for it to update.
21:56 Dante_Clone can I shoot you my script and you see if there appears to be something wrong  ....I can use pastebin
21:56 VanessaE no
21:56 VanessaE your script probably has your access key
21:57 Dante_Clone i guess I could let you try to connect directly if I gave you the ip....
21:57 VanessaE you don't wanna share that.
21:57 Dante_Clone can we try that?
21:57 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ dig minetest.info.tm
21:57 VanessaE [...]
21:57 VanessaE minetest.info.tm.60INA24.231.73.100
21:57 VanessaE is that your IP?
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22:00 VanessaE ok so yes, it is
22:00 VanessaE that means your DNS record is correct
22:00 VanessaE I can ping you also
22:00 VanessaE so that means I can reach the machine that the IP points to.
22:00 VanessaE now you just have to make sure your firewall lets port 30000 through to the server process
22:01 VanessaE (and that the server is actually running ;) )
22:01 Dante_Clone well the server is up and running....im connected to it from two other pcs in my lan
22:03 harrison http://sortocracy.org/jury-nullification​-remediating-treason-against-the-people/
22:03 VanessaE ok, then you just have to port-forward on your firewall or router
22:03 harrison Let us herewith establish an internet-based sovereign people’s jury consisting of identified (verified as registered voters) citizens wielding openly published, revocable proxies on specific resolutions, indictments, judgments and sentences.
22:03 VanessaE harrison: stop.
22:03 VanessaE REALLY OFF TOPIC.
22:03 Dante_Clone my router has port filtering, forwarding and triggers.  The trigger page says this:  This page allows configuration of dynamic triggers to specific devices on the LAN.
22:03 Dante_Clone This allows for special applications that require specific port numbers with
22:03 Dante_Clone bi-directional traffic to function properly. Applications such as video conferencing, voice,
22:03 Dante_Clone gaming, and some messenging program features may require these special settings.
22:04 Dante_Clone should I try port triggers or forwarding
22:04 Dante_Clone and do I do tcp, udp, both?
22:04 VanessaE Dante_Clone: in this case I don't think a trigger is what you want, rather a full forwarding.  Remember that you need to forward both UDP and TCP
22:05 Dante_Clone VanessaE, if I have the server pc on DMZ, should't that let anything through without having to do port forwarding???  That how I have it right now.
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22:06 VanessaE that I am not sure of, Dante
22:06 VanessaE now are you sure it's using port 30000?
22:06 VanessaE singleplayer I think tends to use 30011 or some such doesn't it?
22:06 Dante_Clone !up minetest.info.tm
22:06 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
22:07 VanessaE I cannot reach that port at all
22:07 Dante_Clone Its using port 30000 in the setup of the server under multiplayer
22:07 VanessaE ok
22:08 VanessaE let's test something.  Do you have any other services running?  you can msg me if you prefer.  Something I can attempt to connect to.
22:10 Dante_Clone hmm...not really
22:10 VanessaE ok
22:11 Dante_Clone is there something simple I can start (on Linux Mint 14)
22:11 VanessaE maybe ssh
22:11 VanessaE first thing that comes to mind, requires relatively little setup
22:12 VanessaE and you can shut it down when you're done testing
22:12 VanessaE but the fact that I can ping your machine at that IP is a good start
22:12 Dante_Clone tell you what is weird, on my dhcp client list, the server address ip does not show up.....would having this server pc in dmz affedct that?  Shouldn't it be in list?
22:14 Dante_Clone i just disabled dmz
22:14 Dante_Clone for now
22:15 Dante_Clone just turned off firewall on linux mint too
22:15 Dante_Clone althoug it was setup to allow incoming and outgoing
22:15 Dante_Clone just trying to eliminate possible issues
22:20 Evergreen Does anyone else like red eclipse?
22:21 Dante_Clone !up minetest.info.tm
22:21 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
22:22 harrison based on cube 2 formerly sauerbraten
22:22 harrison interesting engine
22:22 harrison but it is an fps
22:22 harrison so no
22:22 harrison i don't like it
22:22 NakedFury if it plays like Quake or super fast combat no.
22:22 harrison in that i don't understand fps
22:23 harrison also wouter has been snooty with me in the past
22:23 NakedFury router?
22:24 harrison wouter coded it, or the original
22:24 harrison http://strlen.com/
22:26 Peacock damn it's cold out, im pretty sure my balls were last seen retreating to Dunkirk XD
22:27 harrison Peacock, are you free?
22:27 harrison This is london calling guvnor
22:27 Peacock This one is unsigned, and suggests that you do something physically impossible with the suggestion box.
22:29 Peacock sweet https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/967
22:31 RealBadAngel thats #967 in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jV7Oxw-IJo
22:32 Peacock saw it :-) question though, can i add more texturable objects in the sky? (ex, two suns, or two moons, twin planets, etc.), you could set the size and orbit_speed
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22:33 NakedFury the youtube videos recommended while watching your video are full of cosmetic shits
22:34 Peacock maybe it's maybeline?
22:35 Peacock might need an offset too since you wouldn't want both suns to rise at the same time, hm
22:37 NakedFury second_sun_position: left/right  offset_position: x #/y #
22:37 NakedFury something like that?
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22:38 RealBadAngel such things like more objects should be rather added with c55's sky api
22:38 john_minetest Hey RealBadAngel1
22:38 john_minetest Hey RealBadAngel!
22:38 john_minetest stupid caps :P
22:39 RealBadAngel hehe, hi
22:46 PilzAdam bye
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22:49 Evergreen Hello sdzen
22:52 sdzen hello treeman
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22:56 Peacock which one of paramats' mods is the asteroid field?
22:57 Dark_Soul hey guys i have a question, how do you set default items that a new person joining your server can start with?
22:57 Peacock i think that's give_initial
22:58 Peacock *give_initial_stuff mod
22:58 Peacock its in minetest_game
22:58 Dark_Soul yes i have got that far but its just true or false but how do you set what items
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22:59 Peacock give_initial_stuff/init.lua:
22:59 Peacock player:get_inventory():add_item('main', 'default:torch 99')
22:59 Dark_Soul hmm ok i will look there thanks for the help
22:59 Peacock i dont see any true or false in there lol
22:59 Peacock no prob
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23:00 pitriss Peacock: i have this: if minetest.setting_getbool("give_initial_stuff")  in technic game version of give_initial_stuff/init.lua
23:01 Peacock well from what i understood he wanted to change the items, not disable or enable it, tho i could be wrong
23:05 dante123 !up minetest.info.tm
23:05 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
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23:10 paramat Peacock, 'asteroid' mod heh
23:10 Peacock found it :P
23:10 Peacock i need to lvm it, but looks good
23:10 dante123 Vanessa, try it now.....its up.  There was all this port stuff setup....don't know if my kids did it or what....anyway cleared it all out and all is good now
23:10 paramat cool
23:11 dante123 !up minetest.info.tm
23:11 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (300ms)
23:14 dante123 can someone come into server just to test
23:14 Peacock lol seriously, in singlenode? http://s10.postimg.org/8x86rm​i49/screenshot_4144707363.png
23:15 dante123 use minetest.info.tm
23:15 Peacock i checked way above, theres nothing that should be generating a shadow lol
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23:21 paramat thats the LVM version?
23:22 VanessaE dante123: it works.
23:24 Peacock theres an asteroid lvm version?
23:24 paramat the usual shadow bug doesnt seem to be as big and dark as that ...
23:25 paramat heh no for some reason i thought you had already converted it to LVM
23:25 Peacock trying to, i just dont remember, which was the one i last converted? my mods folder has too much stuff in it lol
23:26 paramat wheres my beautiful cometry atmosphere? ;)
23:26 paramat um, moonrealm?
23:26 Peacock disabled it, it didn't render beautifully on my machine :/
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23:27 stormchaser3000 hi
23:27 Peacock dont have an lvm moonrealm in my folder, i do have paragen lvm thou
23:27 Peacock *though
23:27 Peacock nodeid = {} yeah thats the one
23:29 dante123 thanks.
23:29 dante123 vanessae
23:30 dante123 I kind of worry that maybe someone was messing with my router settings.....it could have been my 16 year old.  When I cleared out all the port stuff, bingo it started working.
23:30 dante123 If it is my own kid that's fine.....just don't want someone from the outside hacking my router.  It's a motorola.
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23:31 stormchaser3000 wow
23:32 paramat Peacock paragen LVM probably has wrong use of the new perlin map functions
23:33 Peacock yeah no the one i converted was based on the old
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23:33 Peacock what about asteroids though?
23:34 Jordach i think i know where minetest_game should develop (...ive been playing mc 360 bored shitless)
23:34 stormchaser3000 what chanel does irc on servers connect to
23:35 paramat im still struggling with the new perlin functions, currently the fastest generation method forces a ZYX triple loop, but my mapgens require XZY loops: column by column and working down each column
23:36 paramat Hi J
23:36 paramat asteroids? you no find?
23:37 dante123 hi Jordach
23:37 Peacock well i wont try to tinker with asteroids perlin, im just trying to make an asteroid map from edge to edge to edge :-)
23:38 paramat ... so im asking hm-mm for a specially packed perlin map for XZY loops
23:38 sfan5 !seen dysoco
23:38 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen dysoco around.
23:38 * sfan5 is tired
23:38 dante123 okay, not that I have my server up and actually working.....what is the best way to make a map that is all one level...so my students can make it into the seven continents and oceans
23:38 Peacock as soon as this skybox stuff is pulled ill be able to use a nice nebulae background for it too
23:39 Peacock the fun part will be coming up with future-tech
23:39 Peacock wireless energy, replicators/3d printers and such
23:40 dante123 running 0.4.7 do I need the dev version to do worldedit stuff?
23:40 sfan5 dante123: yes
23:41 Peacock jesus Nixo (1995) is one helluva long movie lol
23:41 Peacock *Nixon
23:41 paramat P, so you want to disable comets?
23:41 dante123 okay....someone here gave me a link that had the latest etc.  im on linux...ubuntu 13.10\
23:41 Peacock naw i just disabled the atmos nodes
23:41 dante123 anyone know the link offhand....
23:41 Peacock comets and asteroids are fine
23:42 sfan5 dante123: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837
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23:44 dante123 thanks sfan5
23:44 paramat Jordach, where? the devs were discussing this today. celeron55 prefers no development of MTgame and multiple new games
23:47 dante123 sfan5 do you recommend the portable install if there is a chance I may want to move this install to a computer at school eventually???
23:47 sfan5 portable
23:47 dante123 then it would be just moving one folder with everything in it right?
23:48 sfan5 yp
23:48 sfan5 yep*
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23:48 dante123 thanks sfan5
23:51 paramat a comet with atmosphere http://i.imgur.com/wzbADkE.png
23:52 harrison I thought of a great title for a autobiography: Cleanup on Aisle 666
23:54 john_minetest harrison: A title for yours would be "Catching the rays" or "Hacking the system" or "Oberon for life".
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23:58 dante123 Okay, so if I want to build a flat world....where the students can then carve out the oceans and add to the continents.....do I do this with singlenode or what?
23:58 Exio4 a flat world?
23:58 Exio4 you can use the flat mapgen, with disabled stuff
23:59 Exio4 er
23:59 Exio4 v6 + flat

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