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Time Nick Message
00:08 snesker What's the best server to play on?
00:08 VanessaE bbl
00:08 Miner_48er all of them
00:10 Mossmanikin https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5597
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00:49 ShadowNinja snesker: Depends who you ask. Try Vanessa's survival server or my creative server.
00:50 khonkhortisan Mods aren't written for how I want to play.
00:50 khonkhortisan I want an area to use worldedit to make mesecon monstrosities
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01:21 OldCoder jojoa1997, Hi
01:21 jojoa1997 hi
01:23 OldCoder o/
02:05 PilzAdam bye
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03:32 khonkhortisan Aw, I can't reopen my pull request.
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04:03 khonkhortisan pong proller done.
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05:24 khonkhortisan hahaha I put some water along the face of a cliff, attempting to predict where the lavafall I'm building will fall so I can avoid the trees, and I end up creating a lake in the air.
05:26 [0gb_us] Yeah, I have that issue every now and again as well.
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05:32 e1z0 heya
05:32 [0gb_us] Hello!
05:44 khonkhortisan hi
05:51 khonkhortisan lava burns trees, water mosses stone. A hidden liquidfall doesn't work well.
05:53 [0gb_us] Since when does water moss stone? Is that a new feature?
05:57 khonkhortisan um, it might be one of my mods
05:58 [0gb_us] Ah, got it.
05:59 [0gb_us] I was trying to decide between creating a flat world or a hilly world, when I found an interesting fact: flat worlds lack desert stone. Hilly it is, then.
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06:09 [0gb_us] What does the nolight mapgen flag do? I used that flag, but there was still a lot of light. I didn't see a difference.
06:28 khonkhortisan Maybe it's no variance in light
06:28 khonkhortisan Are caves lit?
06:28 [0gb_us] Caves are not lit, no.
06:28 khonkhortisan idk
06:29 [0gb_us] Hmm. Maybe the flag is meaningless for the time being or is only used in mapgen v7.
06:32 snesker minetest should have lag correction
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06:32 khonkhortisan it has to be done on both sides, and carts would have to be understood by the client as well
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07:43 john_minetest Hello everypony
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07:54 john_minetest hi Calinou
07:58 Calinou hi
08:03 VanessaE good morning
08:12 john_minetest Crap, my chatlog is too short... Anybody can give me the link for the #minetest stats please?
08:12 VanessaE http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
08:12 Calinou http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest
08:12 khonkhortisan morning
08:12 john_minetest Calinou: I meant that ones mentioned by VanessaE, but thanks anyway
08:13 john_minetest VanessaE: thx
08:13 VanessaE np
08:13 VanessaE Browser History is Your Friend™
08:13 VanessaE :)
08:14 khonkhortisan there's also Search History, Video History, Contact History, Cell Tower History, and any other History you can think of
08:14 VanessaE short summary of that link:  I'm a G*d damned chatterbox who doesn't sleep enough :P
08:15 john_minetest VanessaE: I don't save browser history :b
08:15 khonkhortisan I find it useful every once in a while
08:15 VanessaE john_minetest: well if you're gonna browse pr0n, use an 'incognito" window :P
08:15 john_minetest khonkhortisan: And epic rap battles of History.
08:15 khonkhortisan :)
08:16 khonkhortisan I'm setting up motion detection on my webcam
08:16 john_minetest JS can access my history and I don't like to give the history of 3 years away :D
08:16 khonkhortisan but I think the lightning has left already, and the wire is too short to put it to the window
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08:16 khonkhortisan hello HalfFloor
08:17 john_minetest khonkhortisan: Arduino can do cool stuff. Brightness sensor and remote-control and arduino = super cool flash detector.
08:20 john_minetest Can somebody change the sandwich to "print("Sandwich of the day is "); while(true){print("a sandwich with a sandwich on it with ");}"
08:21 john_minetest Guaranteed the largest sandwich in the world
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08:35 john_minetest Why do we have a chatlog btw?
08:35 Calinou chatlog?
08:35 Calinou what kind of of chatlog?
08:35 john_minetest Yeah, loggingbot is logging the chat all the time.
08:36 john_minetest http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest
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08:38 Calinou that's useful
08:43 john_minetest I never really used it, lol.
08:43 john_minetest It seems it is useful for looking for funny conversations :D
08:44 john_minetest Like the poem featuring OldCoder or the Fridge discussion.
08:46 john_minetest I wrote an !rtfm command for minetestbot. The answer are links to the wiki pages.
08:46 john_minetest actually I stole the code from !help and put in my own stuff :b
08:53 e1z0 how to setup only two users in "creative" mode ?
08:53 e1z0 add flag interact or what ?
08:55 john_minetest e1z0: Yeah, don't set interact as default priv.
08:55 john_minetest Then only the ones with interact priv can mine and build
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09:07 kahrl e1z0: if you want to set some users to survival mode and others to creative mode, there's a mod for that called creativechanger
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09:12 e1z0 ah
09:12 e1z0 ok
09:12 e1z0 and where can i set default privilegies ?
09:15 kahrl default_privs
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09:22 e1z0 where can i set default privilegies ?
09:22 kahrl default_privs
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09:37 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Friday, and happy Fight Procrastination Day! :-D
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10:01 e1z0_ i need to put world edit to gamedir/games/minetest_game/mods ?
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10:02 rubenwardy ?Hi all
10:03 Calinou e1z0_: no
10:03 Calinou gamedir/mods
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10:03 e1z0_ oh,ok
10:06 kahrl e1z0_: don't forget to enable the mod in the world configuration
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10:19 VanessaE wow what a hack!  http://www.vagrearg.org/content/flipcoredotmemory
10:20 VanessaE (too bad it is as yet unfinished)
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10:22 VanessaE /kick jojoa1997 go to school
10:22 VanessaE ;)
10:23 jojoa1997 In 5 minutes :P
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10:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:50 e1z0 yo PilzAdam
10:50 e1z0 sup
10:51 PilzAdam just woke up, so not much
10:52 VanessaE good morning
10:53 john_minetest sup PilzAdam
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11:06 GNADev|zRokh hi
11:07 VanessaE hi
11:07 GNADev|zRokh VanessaE, its two in a row now :D
11:07 GNADev|zRokh you have been the first to greet me two times in a row :D
11:09 john_minetest GNADev|zRokh: Wait, you are ragnar, right?
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11:10 GNADev|zRokh yes
11:10 GNADev|zRokh :)
11:10 GNADev|zRokh and what is your question, john?
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11:15 john_minetest Just wanted to know if I remembered right
11:15 GNADev|zRokh well, you do :D
11:19 e1z0 hmm, i'm trying to implement worldedit on my server but without success, it say's that worldedit mod is loaded but i can't use any commands
11:19 e1z0 even after /grant
11:22 VanessaE use two slashes for worldedit commands
11:22 VanessaE e.g. //pos1 and so forth
11:22 e1z0 yeah, i i've used
11:23 e1z0 //p set does not work, //set works
11:23 e1z0 what the hell
11:23 VanessaE you did,  /grant yourname all
11:23 VanessaE ?
11:23 e1z0 yes
11:23 VanessaE odd
11:23 VanessaE well wait
11:23 VanessaE is this a singleplayer server or multi-player?
11:24 e1z0 multiplayer
11:24 VanessaE hrm
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11:24 Rhy5 Hello!
11:24 e1z0 hi
11:24 VanessaE wait, //set  works?
11:24 e1z0 yeah
11:24 Rhy5 Wha?
11:25 Rhy5 Talking about WorldEdit?
11:25 VanessaE whose worldedit are you using?
11:25 VanessaE Rhy5: hi.  and yeah
11:25 Rhy5 Hmf.
11:25 e1z0 says "WorldEdit -!- no region selected"
11:25 e1z0 https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit
11:25 e1z0 this
11:25 Rhy5 //set mod:node
11:25 VanessaE ok, that's the standard one
11:26 VanessaE and you were doing   //p set    exactly like that?  (with the space)
11:26 e1z0 yes
11:26 VanessaE what error do you get?
11:26 e1z0 hmm, lol, worked //p set,  bu t as the manual says i need to /pp set 1 or 2
11:27 VanessaE /pp ?
11:27 e1z0 damn head my head does not work
11:27 VanessaE that's pilzadam's fork
11:27 Rhy5 no, no, with //p set, you punch two nodes.
11:27 e1z0 i mean //p
11:27 e1z0 sorry
11:27 Rhy5 Then, you can do //set mod:node
11:27 VanessaE it's just //p set and then you punch some nodes
11:27 Rhy5 Exactimondo.
11:27 * Rhy5 wants some cake.
11:27 VanessaE or you can teleport/walk to a spot,  //pos1  move to the other corner and //pos2
11:28 Rhy5 Mhm.
11:28 * VanessaE cries at the impossible-to-get-right grammar because of the commands in her sentences
11:28 Rhy5 D:
11:28 Rhy5 Just wondering, which IRC do I go to about mod ideas or feature ideas etc?
11:29 VanessaE here.
11:29 Rhy5 On this IRC?
11:29 VanessaE mmhmm
11:29 Rhy5 Hmf.
11:29 Rhy5 Well, can I DISCUSS mods here?
11:29 VanessaE yep
11:30 Rhy5 Alright, alright.
11:30 VanessaE everything minetest related goes on in this channel
11:30 Rhy5 Well, my enchanting mod that I am making is on a hold - carrying on with Wool Texture Pack [BETA]. Also, probably gonna make a _____ mod.
11:30 e1z0 one more stupid question
11:31 VanessaE also when you get more familiar with how the core developers prefer to communicate (and the "rules" that go with that), you may find yourself talking in #minetest-dev as well but only about core engine code e.g. C++ stuff
11:31 Rhy5 Spill da beans.
11:31 e1z0 how can i build long bridge with world edit if it's possible ?
11:31 Rhy5 It is possible. //pos1, //pos2, //p set - //set mod:node
11:31 VanessaE e1z0: teleport to one corner,  //pos1   then teleport to the other, diagonally opposite corner, at the same Y, and //pos2
11:32 Rhy5 Not exactly teleport, go to dat corner.
11:32 VanessaE andthen yeah, //set nodename
11:32 e1z0 ok, i will try
11:32 e1z0 :-)
11:32 Rhy5 I don't know anything about C++, btw. D;
11:33 Rhy5 Any how you can tell me about it?
11:34 Rhy5 VanessaE: ^^^?
11:34 VanessaE tell what, specifically?
11:34 Rhy5 About C++
11:34 VanessaE idk how enchanting works in MC, so I am not qualified to comment on that part..
11:34 VanessaE as for C++, I suck at it, so I don't do much with the engine :-)
11:35 Rhy5 Its just that, about Icon Problem - FIX! topic.
11:35 VanessaE oh
11:35 * VanessaE shrugs
11:35 VanessaE I don't know a proper solution
11:35 Rhy5 sfan5 said about can me easily done with c++
11:35 VanessaE I'm gonna head out for a while, need to lie down
11:35 Rhy5 But, I am using 2d icons, and inventory_image = node
11:36 * Rhy5 waves
11:40 GNADev|zRokh Jordach, are you online?
11:40 GNADev|zRokh nope.......
11:41 GNADev|zRokh well, anyway... i got a PM from Jordach saying that i should only speak english and not code. i got it on the 12th of August... can somebody help me? idk when did i speak code...
11:44 e1z0 with //pos1 and //pos2 i only can fill one line, i need multiple lines, is it possible to specify 4 corners and then fill them with specified node ?
11:51 john_minetest e1z0: You can specify two points. the area between them is filled.
11:51 john_minetest so there is always a square
11:53 e1z0 hehe just found
11:53 e1z0 thanks a lot
11:53 e1z0 ;-)
11:54 e1z0 and, is it possible to clear objects too, with //set ?
11:55 john_minetest "clear objects"?
11:55 john_minetest You can do "//set air" to delete all objects there
11:55 john_minetest Pro tip: "//p set" lets you select the 2 points by clicking nodes with the mouse.
11:57 e1z0 thanks
11:57 e1z0 and how the rollback function works in the minetest, coz it seems does not work for me
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12:00 GNADev|zRokh bye biggums, gonna miss ya :D
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12:55 sfan5 e1z0_: you need to enable rollback recording for it to work
12:55 sfan5 hi everyone
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13:04 john_minetest hi sfan5
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13:25 john_minetest 7 channels, 2 networks, 1 PM chat.
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13:51 STHGOM PilzAdam: U on?
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14:09 PilzAdam STHGOM, yes
14:11 e1z0_ where it's possible find stable mob mod ?
14:12 Peacock you know the universe where evil spock comes from? there :P
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14:12 e1z0_ :O
14:12 Exio4 lol Peacock
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14:17 GNADev|zRokh hey doods
14:18 GNADev|zRokh who knows Chemistry, i have homework and i can not find anything on google...
14:18 Calinou ._.
14:18 STHGOM whuuuu...
14:19 GNADev|zRokh Calinou, do you know chemistry?
14:19 GNADev|zRokh beginners stuff
14:20 kahrl spoop ʎǝɥ
14:20 GNADev|zRokh nice!
14:20 OldCoder Hi
14:20 GNADev|zRokh hi OC
14:20 GNADev|zRokh it's me, Ragnar
14:20 GNADev|zRokh :D
14:21 OldCoder Hi!
14:22 GNADev|zRokh so how ya been?
14:22 OldCoder Pretty tired but hanging in there
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14:22 GNADev|zRokh ok
14:22 GNADev|zRokh btw, OC, did you know that I'm making a game :)
14:23 OldCoder No I did not know this
14:23 GNADev|zRokh well, i am
14:23 GNADev|zRokh in Java
14:23 GNADev|zRokh :D
14:23 GNADev|zRokh and
14:23 GNADev|zRokh it will be Free 2 Play
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14:26 STHGOM cya!
14:26 GNADev|zRokh cya
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14:29 * NekoGloop noms kahrl
14:30 Dragon95 I have installed the technik mod the mod load without any errors or something but the solarpannels and the other generators prodjous nothing i have connected it with a cable to batterybox but it doesn't charge ,the cabbles are connected with the box and generator but it doesn' work have any a idea what is wrong the depends are all installed
14:30 * kahrl isn't very tasty :>
14:30 * GNADev|zRokh noms Nekogloop with kahrl in him
14:30 NekoGloop But I'm really hungry
14:31 GNADev|zRokh too late :P
14:32 PilzAdam Dragon95, its probably better for you to ask in the forum topic
14:33 Dragon95 ok thanks
14:34 * GNADev|zRokh will ask a question about Physics and you have to answer it! (This is not homework)
14:34 GNADev|zRokh When light is reflected and if the a (alpha) is 30 degrees, what is b (beta)?
14:34 PilzAdam a greek letter
14:35 GNADev|zRokh :O
14:35 GNADev|zRokh WRONG
14:36 GNADev|zRokh yo, i should make a Python program that will test people's brain :D
14:37 NekoGloop Pilz is right, for once.
14:37 sfan5 plol
14:37 GNADev|zRokh ok... lets do it this way...
14:38 GNADev|zRokh When light is reflected and if the angle of incidence  is 30 degrees, what is the angle of reflection??
14:38 NekoGloop I have no idea what you're talking about
14:38 PilzAdam its a matter of defintion, draw something where alpha and beta are defined
14:39 GNADev|zRokh alpha = 30 degrees
14:39 GNADev|zRokh then?
14:39 NekoGloop beta = 60? :P
14:39 GNADev|zRokh NO
14:39 Exio4 30
14:39 NekoGloop completely random guess
14:39 GNADev|zRokh beta = 30 too
14:39 GNADev|zRokh yeah!
14:39 GNADev|zRokh because alpha = beta
14:39 GNADev|zRokh great job Exio4
14:39 NekoGloop no, alpha > beta
14:39 NekoGloop beta is a lower class
14:39 Exio4 lol
14:40 NekoGloop but in software, beta > alpha because stupid
14:40 GNADev|zRokh NekoGloop, fast code later?
14:40 NekoGloop ?
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14:41 GNADev|zRokh fast code = coding something simple in a limited time
14:43 GNADev|zRokh so
14:43 GNADev|zRokh wanna join NekoGloop?
14:43 NekoGloop I can't code worth shit and everyone knows this xD
14:44 NekoGloop I hardly code lua usably :P
14:45 GNADev|zRokh :D
14:45 GNADev|zRokh i do Java and Python 3
14:45 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you mean that glooptest makes the mapgen 170 times slower?
14:46 Exio4 i think what NekoGloop codes is better than any java code
14:46 Exio4 but whatever
14:46 GNADev|zRokh Lua is a modding language, Java is coding and modding...
14:46 NekoGloop That's totally configurable and could really only be bettered if the engine had more support for what I'm doing.
14:46 GNADev|zRokh thus Lua < Java
14:46 PilzAdam "Java is coding and modding..." ... what?
14:47 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: if you say that that means you seriously don't know what lua is
14:47 GNADev|zRokh language
14:47 Exio4 you can code shit in lua that doesn't need a engine behind it
14:47 GNADev|zRokh i only know it can be used for modding
14:47 GNADev|zRokh oh
14:47 Exio4 seriously
14:48 Peacock javascript FTW :P
14:48 Exio4 java has shitty syntax, shitty performance (inb4 benchmark of it here with the JIT and shits), and so on
14:48 Exio4 plus shitty o
14:48 Exio4 OOP *
14:48 Peacock java is shitty pOOP yeah
14:48 PilzAdam ehm... Java's OOP is the best you can get
14:49 GNADev|zRokh yeah
14:49 GNADev|zRokh thanks PilzAdam for that :)
14:49 Exio4 Peacock: JS? http://sealedabstract.com/rants​/why-mobile-web-apps-are-slow/
14:49 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, thanks for what?
14:49 GNADev|zRokh for being on my side... right?
14:49 Peacock i was kidding about the JS :P (called pulling a lamefun)
14:50 Exio4 did you read https://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/Design_Patterns_%28book%29 yet?
14:50 PilzAdam I am totally not on your side
14:50 Exio4 the OOP hell
14:50 Peacock lol
14:50 Exio4 it was sarcasm GNADev|zRokh
14:50 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, you dont even know what Java is
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14:51 Peacock speaking of which, i gotta go make some
14:51 GNADev|zRokh Java is coffee
14:51 GNADev|zRokh duh!
14:51 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: read http://codepad.org/XkitNLv4
14:51 Exio4 it is java
14:51 Exio4 enjoy it
14:51 kahrl :D
14:51 Exio4 kahrl: sush!
14:51 kahrl mmh sushi
14:52 Exio4 haha
14:52 sfan5 meow
14:52 sfan5 meow
14:52 sfan5 meow
14:52 Peacock java is to computing what kopi luwak is to coffee :p
14:52 sfan5 was kicked by ShadowBot: Repetition flood detected.
14:52 NekoGloop meow
14:52 NekoGloop meow
14:52 NekoGloop meow
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14:52 NekoGloop was kicked by ShadowBot: Repetition flood detected.
14:52 sfan5 ShadowBot: too slow
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14:52 GNADev|zRokh >D
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14:53 Exio4 isn't that java code pretty GNADev|zRokh?
14:53 GNADev|zRokh it's C
14:53 GNADev|zRokh :/
14:53 Exio4 is isn't C
14:53 PilzAdam plol
14:53 sfan5 wat
14:54 GNADev|zRokh it said (C wrote on 15th something...)
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14:54 Exio4 it is java, read it..
14:54 Exio4 if you know how to code, you should the syntax...
14:54 Exio4 and today I learned that C has classes
14:54 GNADev|zRokh i know...
14:54 Exio4 what black magic
14:55 Exio4 interfaces, classes, abstract, super();!
14:55 Exio4 wow, someone is using a very OOP library 8)
14:58 kahrl codepad.org doesn't have java syntax highlighting afaik so C is the closest
14:58 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, so I am right that you dont even know java
14:58 sfan5 ^
14:58 Peacock i think they preferred if you called it african american magic :S
14:58 GNADev|zRokh i do know but i dont know C so idk if it was C or not
14:58 GNADev|zRokh it seemed familiar, yes
14:58 PilzAdam Exio4, thats probably all preprocesor stuff
14:59 GNADev|zRokh and i compiled in gcc... didnt work
14:59 sfan5 *no comment*
14:59 Exio4 seriously
15:00 Peacock finally finished all the corridors and jeffries tubes in my ship - and now, for the lens flares (should take half a day)
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15:01 PilzAdam can we ban for stupidity?
15:01 Peacock you'd lose half the channel :/
15:01 sfan5 plol
15:02 sfan5 if you apply the forum rules to #minetest... yes
15:02 Peacock [discussion][0.4.7] indeed
15:03 GNADev|zRokh sfan5, can you explain to me how does the Minetest API have parts of the game registered?
15:03 GNADev|zRokh like how to convert a MC map to MT
15:03 Calinou huh?
15:03 Calinou oh
15:03 sfan5 GNADev|zRokh: wat
15:03 Peacock lol
15:03 GNADev|zRokh what does it use
15:03 Calinou the Minecraft map format is documented
15:03 Exio4 wut
15:04 Peacock didnt someone already write a mc-mt map converter?
15:04 * sfan5 did for classic and full
15:04 GNADev|zRokh well i want to make it GrApHiCaL :D
15:04 GNADev|zRokh In Java :D
15:04 Exio4 bullshit
15:04 Peacock lol
15:04 Exio4 (scnr)
15:05 GNADev|zRokh what?
15:05 Peacock i want to reinvent the wheel, in java :p
15:06 sfan5 i want to reinvent the java, in wheel :p
15:06 GNADev|zRokh :D
15:07 john_minetest Oh, hi ragnar.
15:07 GNADev|zRokh aye dood :D
15:09 Peacock i want to reinvent java, in java
15:10 GNADev|zRokh yo...
15:10 GNADev|zRokh GR34T 1D34
15:10 GNADev|zRokh :D
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15:12 john_minetest ragnar: Look at reinventing C in C -> http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html
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15:20 Exio4 a C compiler in C?
15:21 GNADev|zRokh :D
15:22 GNADev|zRokh HarryZone :D
15:22 john_minetest Exio4: Of course a C compiler is written in C? What language else?
15:23 Calinou java, of course
15:23 * Calinou gallops away
15:23 Exio4 ASM john_minetest :P
15:23 Peacock coffeescript
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15:25 john_minetest Exio4: ASM for the first command but as soon as the first command can be compiled you have to compile the compiler with the asm compiler and that one with itself again.
15:26 GNADev|zRokh :D
15:26 * GNADev|zRokh is eating an apple
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15:27 GNADev|zRokh first one to answer correctly gets a Silver Penny.
15:27 GNADev|zRokh What is my last name?
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15:29 * Calinou would prefer a Silver Pony
15:29 sfan5 plol
15:32 e1z0 cmake supports exporting xcode projects ?
15:32 e1z0 i mean used to compile minetest  on osx
15:32 sfan5 yes it supports xcode project exporting
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15:33 nore hi all!
15:33 GNADev|zRokh hi
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15:36 Jordach sfan5, when i read cmake export xcode projects, apple software update appeared
15:36 sfan5 heh
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15:38 Mati^1 hi all
15:49 Peacock i need help with The Sims, i've killed the enemy, taken over and fortified their base, now what do i do?
15:53 john_minetest Peacock: You simply shut down The Sims and start playing minetest.
15:54 john_minetest :b
15:54 Peacock lol
15:54 Exio4 woo
15:55 Peacock im in the process of lighting all my corridors now, 4 decks down, 30-something to go lol
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15:56 Peacock at least every deck is connected though and the transporter room is done lol
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15:59 sfan5 it rains outside and the sun shines
15:59 sfan5 Rainbow, here I come! :P
16:00 john_minetest Peacock: In the sims or in minetest?
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16:01 Peacock minetest :P cant build ships in sims
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16:02 Peacock in fact, most ship-building games are downright lousy
16:06 Peacock even city building games now suck like an electrolux
16:06 * Jordach giggles
16:07 Jordach Peacock, the only things that suck more than a electrolux is windows 8
16:07 Calinou and rainbow dash
16:07 * Calinou gallops away
16:07 Peacock i stuck with win7
16:07 Peacock the microsoft rule: every other version sucks
16:08 Jordach Peacock, me too
16:08 Jordach Calinou, naughty boy
16:09 Calinou naughty pony*
16:10 * Morrolan spanks Calinou
16:11 * Calinou hoofslaps Morrolan
16:11 * Morrolan prepares a lasso
16:12 * Morrolan accidentally catches Jordach instead
16:12 john_minetest I am stuck with a fast windows 7 laptop, a zombie linux laptop and an oldtimer linux PC.
16:12 Jordach fuck you Morrolan
16:12 Jordach > fast windows 7
16:12 john_minetest Hey, the zombie decided to be alive today!
16:12 Jordach y u complain
16:12 Morrolan john_minetest: Dual-boot? :)
16:13 Morrolan Then you'll have a fast Windows 7 and a fast Linux notebook.
16:13 john_minetest Jordach: Fast hardware.
16:13 john_minetest Morrolan: Not dual-boot.
16:13 john_minetest Dedicated gaming and chatting device.
16:13 Morrolan Dedicated *chatting* device?
16:13 * Jordach skypes john_minetest :P
16:14 john_minetest Yeah, I use it as IRC device
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16:14 john_minetest And skype device
16:14 Jordach ring ring mutherfucker
16:14 john_minetest Because my PC needs a cable and my other computer has nvidia and dies all the time.
16:15 Jordach john_minetest, s_video, vga, or some shit that's rare as fuck
16:15 john_minetest oh, died again while compiling minetest
16:15 Calinou nvidia chipsets were terrible, hopefully they don't exist anymore
16:16 john_minetest wait, maybe I have to do that setterm thing
16:16 Peacock one of my monitors has like 3 or 4 different plugs on it for video lol
16:16 john_minetest When the terminal blanks out it crahes automatically
16:16 john_minetest Btw: http://i.imgur.com/tbCkxpV.jpg
16:18 FreeFull john_minetest: That looks pretty cool
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16:22 Exio4 Calinou: why?
16:23 Exio4 my old sempron has everything nvidia
16:25 john_minetest FreeFull: And it moves
16:39 Exio4 Calinou: you have 8 threads and only 4FPU :P
16:39 Exio4 it is a sightly similar aproach but with more real threads than those
16:44 svuorela q/win 33
16:49 john_minetest When are FPUs used?
16:50 Exio4 floating point units
16:50 Exio4 i guess the name explains when
16:51 john_minetest Of course. But I mean: Does it help accelerating compiling?
16:51 john_minetest Or is it only good for stuff like games?
16:51 sfan5 john_minetest: no; maybe
16:51 Exio4 lets say it is used everywhere where you use floats
16:51 Exio4 because doing those is super-expensive in software
16:51 john_minetest Well, then I don't care. As long as I can compile 8-cores I don't care about floats.
16:51 john_minetest *compile with 8 cores
16:51 Exio4 an i7 has 4 FPUs too
16:52 Exio4 and 4 cores + hyperthreading
16:52 john_minetest AMD 8 cores @ 4 GHz
16:52 Exio4 vishera?
16:52 Exio4 i have a (inb4 failed) bulldozer, 6100
16:52 john_minetest http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=sr_nr_p_89_1/275-​2468983-5934444?rh=n%3A340843031%2Cn%3A!3408​44031%2Cn%3A427954031%2Cp_n_feature_keywords​_browse-bin%3A2374798031%2Cp_36%3A428374031%​2Cp_89%3ASYSTEMTREFF&amp;bbn=427954031&amp;i​e=UTF8&amp;qid=1378137055&amp;rnid=669059031
16:53 john_minetest AMD Bulldozer FX-8320
16:53 Exio4 don't buy bulldozer
16:53 john_minetest AMD Bulldozer FX-8350
16:53 Exio4 wait
16:53 Exio4 isn't 83xx vishera
16:54 Calinou "vishera" = piledriver
16:54 john_minetest AMD FX-83XX
16:54 john_minetest yeah
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16:54 Exio4 i didn't open the link
16:54 john_minetest What would you recommend? I want a computer with low price but decent graphics and CPU that is fast so I can compile.
16:55 john_minetest The link was to amazon, a list of several octacore computers.
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16:55 Exio4 i would go with amd, but i'm an AMD fanboy too
16:55 john_minetest Those are cheap.
16:55 Exio4 compiling here is super-fast compared to other CPUs in its price range
16:55 Exio4 so i'm k with it
16:56 john_minetest what is not so good about those? Energy consumption?
16:56 Exio4 power usage and slow single-thread performance (versus intel cpus)
16:56 Exio4 new intel cpus *
16:57 john_minetest Well, you can't pay new intel CPUs. Those are more expensive than a whole computer.
16:57 Exio4 that is what i say :P
16:57 Exio4 they are too expensive for me
16:57 Exio4 i'm not rich :D
16:58 john_minetest well, if AMDs need so much more energy you are poor soon :b
16:58 Exio4 it isn't that much
16:59 Exio4 and i actually undervolted my cpu a bit
16:59 Exio4 (-0.25v)
16:59 Exio4 inb4 not a bit
16:59 john_minetest An AMD should run with that :b
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16:59 john_minetest AMDs get all the overclocking world records. So they might also get some underclocking records
17:01 Exio4 i only underclocked the cpu 300mhz..
17:01 Exio4 :P
17:03 john_minetest Well, I think as long as your electricity bill gets lower this is okay :b
17:04 john_minetest And my favourite smiley is ":b" now
17:04 john_minetest And finite water is pretty awesome
17:05 Exio4 john_minetest: how much will you keep your pc on per day?
17:05 Calinou <john_minetest> Well, you can't pay new intel CPUs. Those are more expensive than a whole computer.
17:05 Calinou that is highly exagerrated
17:06 john_minetest My PC is online 15 hours a day normally. Since I will go to university it will be shorter. Maybe only 6 or 7 hours a day.
17:06 Exio4 and where did you live?
17:06 Exio4 i c, .de
17:06 john_minetest Calinou: A new intel can cost far over 100 euros.
17:07 Exio4 my cpu was 215USD (official rate ARS<->USD) here :P
17:07 Exio4 the only thing near to that price was an i3
17:07 john_minetest Intel Core i7-3770K Prozessor (3,5GHz, L3 Cache, Socket 1155)  costs 301 Euros
17:07 Exio4 3xxx is outdated
17:07 john_minetest For that price I get a cheap octacore
17:07 Exio4 buy haswell!
17:08 Exio4 john_minetest: + mobo :P
17:08 john_minetest Computer: http://www.amazon.de/KOMPLETT-Festplatte-So​undchip-Cardreader-Mainboard/dp/B0085U1VPU/​ref=sr_1_3/275-2468983-5934444?s=computers&​amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1378486856&amp;sr=1-3
17:08 john_minetest CPU: http://www.amazon.de/Intel-i7-3770K-Proze​ssor-Cache-Sockel/dp/B007X1JM30/ref=sr_1_​1/275-2468983-5934444?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=137​8487222&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=intel+i7
17:08 john_minetest Well, now choose what you prefer.
17:10 Calinou octacore with 4 FPUs*
17:10 Calinou a FX-8350 isn't twice as fast as a 3770
17:10 Calinou also, buy non-K CPUs
17:11 john_minetest Calinou: When I have the choice between a semi-fast complete computer system or a CPU, I'd choose the computer system.
17:11 Exio4 john_minetest: i guess you need to pay for the cpu, no? :P
17:11 Exio4 if you didn't you would probably choose the intel :>
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17:12 thexyz Calinou: why non-k?
17:12 Exio4 feature killer
17:12 john_minetest Exio: Look at the amazon link. A complete computer system with octacore AMD OR one intel CPU without computer around it.
17:13 Exio4 er
17:13 Exio4 what you posted is an apu i think
17:13 john_minetest <john_minetest> Computer: http://www.amazon.de/KOMPLETT-Festplatte-So​undchip-Cardreader-Mainboard/dp/B0085U1VPU/​ref=sr_1_3/275-2468983-5934444?s=computers&​amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1378486856&amp;sr=1-3
17:13 john_minetest <john_minetest> CPU: http://www.amazon.de/Intel-i7-3770K-Proze​ssor-Cache-Sockel/dp/B007X1JM30/ref=sr_1_​1/275-2468983-5934444?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=137​8487222&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=intel+i7
17:13 Calinou cheaper, more features
17:13 Exio4 oh, athlon
17:13 thexyz Calinou: what features?
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17:13 Exio4 don't buy that, it is oldish :P
17:13 Exio4 thexyz: iommu
17:13 john_minetest oh, wait that was a dual core only
17:13 Calinou TSX, VT-d and one more
17:13 Calinou forgot its name
17:13 john_minetest but for 100 more you get an octa core
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17:14 john_minetest http://www.amazon.de/Bulldozer-Festplatte-S​oundchip-Cardreader-Mainboard/dp/B00871OYNI​/ref=sr_1_1/279-3909455-9585916?s=computers​&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1378487657&amp;sr=1-1
17:14 Exio4 buy this mobo http://www.asus.com/Motherboar​ds/M5A99X_EVO/#specifications
17:15 Exio4 john_minetest: search for some pc with a vishera/piledriver
17:16 john_minetest Exio4: Those are all PCs with a piledriver. http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_t​wo_brow_0/279-3909455-9585916?rh=n%3A340843031​%2Cn%3A!340844031%2Cn%3A427954031%2Cp_36%3A428​374031%2Cp_89%3ASYSTEMTREFF%2Cp_n_feature_keyw​ords_browse-bin%3A2374798031%2Cp_n_feature_two​_browse-bin%3A392627011&amp;bbn=427954031&amp;​ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1378487647&amp;rnid=392620011
17:16 Exio4 i c
17:16 Exio4 try to search a cheap intel mobo for the cpus
17:16 john_minetest How about that nice PC: http://www.amazon.de/GAMER-FX8120-8-Core-1G​Hz-DDR3-VGA-DVI-HDMI-DirectX/dp/B004HIJBVK/​ref=sr_1_1/279-3909455-9585916?s=computers&​amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1378487794&amp;sr=1-1
17:17 Exio4 (inb4 > cheap > intel)
17:17 Calinou "8120"
17:17 Calinou also don't buy prebuilds
17:17 Exio4 for nth time, don't look at bulldozer :P
17:17 Calinou just don't
17:17 Calinou build yourself, or ask for someone to build it if you don't have the time.
17:17 thexyz Calinou: oh, okay
17:17 thexyz Calinou: that's only related to 3770k i guess
17:17 Exio4 with 4770k it is worse
17:18 Exio4 iirc
17:18 Calinou 4770 has TSX, 4770K doesn't
17:18 thexyz yeah, firstly you'll need a CPU, this one is ok http://ark.intel.com/products/70845
17:18 Calinou 3770 doesn't have it either
17:18 Calinou lol
17:18 Exio4 woo
17:18 Exio4 only 1000USD!
17:18 thexyz Calinou: what's fun here? not everyone can afford dual-socket mobo
17:19 Calinou the "X" CPUs have terrible values
17:19 Calinou the 3930K has no point these days when you have the 4770
17:19 thexyz true
17:19 thexyz no it has
17:19 Calinou 4770 is just 20% slower or so
17:19 Calinou and like 40% cheaper
17:19 thexyz no
17:19 thexyz there's no that "slower" shit
17:19 thexyz it depends on what you do with it
17:20 thexyz 3930k has 6 cores while 4770 has 4
17:20 Exio4 the price/perf you get
17:20 Calinou 20% slower in multithread
17:20 Calinou and slightly faster in single thread
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17:21 thexyz Calinou: and single thread doesn't matter, does it?
17:21 thexyz since you're not going to use it
17:22 Calinou it does matter in a lot of cases
17:22 thexyz operations that require muh cpu power (compiling, video rendering) are already multithreaded
17:22 Exio4 suddenly: amd
17:22 Exio4 \o/
17:23 thexyz amd what?
17:23 Exio4 nvm
17:28 * Jordach calls bullshit
17:28 Jordach Minetest is in c++ and many people play it for this: less lag
17:28 thexyz I'm not following, how's that related?
17:28 Jordach <sfan5> ring ring ring [strikethrough]banana phone[/strikethrough] dumbass alarm https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=109300#p109300
17:29 sfan5 the best thing is
17:29 sfan5 "[shouting and much capslock]  (Non aggressive)"
17:30 thexyz those people who can't get java to work annoy me, how's that even possible?
17:30 sfan5 dunno
17:32 * Jordach too [17:31:28] <john_minetest> I still like that product of samsung most: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_SGR-A1
17:32 john_minetest :D
17:33 john_minetest It has 2 cameras, man!
17:33 john_minetest And a voice interface.
17:33 Jordach i hear the A2 model has a bigger gun
17:33 Jordach and a removable battery
17:33 Exio4 samsung? some cousin got the s4 as gift
17:33 john_minetest This thing is better than a samsung galaxy: 2 high-res cameras AND one of those is infrared.
17:34 john_minetest And a patented voice interface!
17:34 Exio4 patents! wooo!
17:34 Jordach > patented voice interface
17:34 Jordach looks like samsung wins again apple
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17:36 Exio4 lol
17:36 Exio4 i want that robot
17:37 Exio4 anyone with some spare 200000?
17:39 Jordach http://christfollower.me/D130831MT
17:39 Jordach \o/
17:43 Jordach thexyz, i've always wondered why PunBB has a split post feature, but not a merge post feature
17:44 Jordach the latter would help as merging separate posts is a PITA
17:46 thexyz what is split post?
17:46 Jordach one of the moderate topic features
17:46 Jordach i've never used ut
17:46 Jordach it*
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17:52 Jordach thexyz, should i test it in trash
17:53 thexyz sure, why not
17:55 Jordach strange, i cant moderate topic in trash
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17:56 Jordach ah, it makes a new topic somewhere else, but that somewhere else is a mystery
18:01 Jordach my first expectation is it places it in the same forum directory
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18:02 Mossmanikin Hi folks
18:02 Jordach > folks
18:03 [0gb_us] Hello!
18:03 Jordach we're not from the deep south
18:03 [0gb_us] Maybe some of us are.
18:04 Jordach > [0gb_us] > Deep south
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18:04 Mossmanikin I don't care where you're from ;)
18:04 [0gb_us] Jordach, yeah, I heard you the first time.
18:04 thexyz Jordach: so picky
18:11 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/cuIec2U.jpg
18:12 Mossmanikin :D
18:17 Mossmanikin hm... maybe I should say something like "Good evening, ladies and gentlemen" in the future...
18:17 khonkhortisan howdy, y'all
18:18 khonkhortisan y'all fills the need of a plural you as separate from a singular you. you guys is similar, but seems to not mention gals
18:18 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt4CQc1MSso
18:19 Mossmanikin "y'all" is nice
18:20 john_minetest khonkhortisan: Since everybody is a pony deep inside it is enough to say: "Hello everypony." .
18:20 sfan5 ^
18:21 khonkhortisan and yet I know not my pony
18:22 john_minetest That sentence is incorrect. ^
18:22 * Calinou tips horn
18:22 john_minetest Please use proper grammar.
18:22 * john_minetest brohooves Calinou
18:22 * Calinou brohooves john_minetest
18:23 Mossmanikin john_minetest: nice song
18:23 john_minetest Mossmanikin: The music style is called "A capella hero metal".
18:23 john_minetest Quite cool.
18:25 Mossmanikin Sounds very familiar
18:26 Maple__ just realized Cindy Morrow wasn't on Seth's list of S4 writers :<
18:27 Maple__ ...as long as Larson and her return in S4 everything's going to be ju- er
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18:30 VanessaE_[T] hi
18:30 Mossmanikin Hi
18:32 Maple__ Hi.
18:32 khonkhortisan vanessa you changed your real name
18:32 khonkhortisan on the whois between both usernames
18:33 VanessaE_[T] I'm on my tablet at the moment
18:33 VanessaE_[T] waiting for abe to finish a looooooong appointment
18:34 khonkhortisan Today I learned that online ink blot tests don't work
18:34 VanessaE_[T] heh
18:34 john_minetest abw
18:34 john_minetest wait
18:34 VanessaE_[T] those are useless anyway
18:35 khonkhortisan the answers were a puppy/bat/cat/, variations on evil/death coming toward me, I love pudding/inkblots, and some others
18:35 VanessaE_[T] hahahaha
18:36 khonkhortisan I'm a vetrinarian who hates his job, apparently
18:36 VanessaE_[T] oh jeez
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18:37 VanessaE_[T] I dunno what those would say about me
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18:39 Jordach > It looks like a tunnel into another dimension, or maybe New Jersey
18:39 Jordach plol
18:39 khonkhortisan I like that answer, but the blot didn't look like that to me
18:39 khonkhortisan some of them were just indescribable
18:40 [0gb_us] Yesterday, the world kept regenerating over things I built. Today, the world is leaving my creations alone. I don't get it.
18:40 khonkhortisan I did see one hooded fire elemental of death, though
18:41 Jordach > It looks like a fractal image that some bozo whipped up in PhotoShop®
18:41 khonkhortisan that was my answer
18:41 VanessaE_[T] one of them ... the one with the black blot with two red spots... looks like two Russian dancers.  trepiyak or whatever you call them
18:42 khonkhortisan red spots?
18:42 VanessaE_[T] yeah
18:42 VanessaE_[T] the red reminded me of a hat
18:42 VanessaE_[T] two figures dancing
18:43 VanessaE_[T] from the standard rorshach test I mean
18:46 sfan5 Jordach: *no words* https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=109333#p109333
18:46 Peacock looks legit
18:47 khonkhortisan multiple choice makes it easier
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18:49 khonkhortisan I should make a mod that changes all the errors to file.." does not work.\n"
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18:49 VanessaE_[T] huh.  guess it crashed
18:51 Peacock whats with the T? starting up the Nell Gwynn tea-rooms?
18:51 NekoGloop T is for Tiny
18:51 khonkhortisan t doesn't stand for north, west, east, south, up, down, anna or katta
18:52 VanessaE_[T] tablet
18:53 Peacock eeww tablets :p
18:53 VanessaE_[T] had to differentiate it from the home PC somehow :P
18:53 VanessaE_[T] well it,s
18:53 john_minetest khonkhortisan: You are standing on a dusty road in the desert. It goes to the west, in the east the road is heavily damaged.
18:53 khonkhortisan VanessaW to throw us off
18:54 NekoGloop VanessaDerp
18:54 khonkhortisan go in building, take everything, find grate
18:54 VanessaE_[T] well, it's either this or sit for 4 hours doing nothing
18:55 john_minetest khonkhortisan: there is no building
18:55 Peacock i just dont like anything that doesn't have a physical keyboard :p
18:55 khonkhortisan What is this? Can I download it?
18:55 VanessaE_[T] go east :P
18:55 john_minetest khonkhortisan: You can only go to the west "w" or look around "look"
18:55 VanessaE_[T] heh
18:55 john_minetest VanessaE_[T]: The east of the road is heavily damaged.
18:55 khonkhortisan west.
18:55 VanessaE_[T] so? :-)
18:56 khonkhortisan look would only give the description again
18:56 OldCoder Quick question. My impression is that MT is less resource intensive than MC. Is this correct?
18:56 VanessaE_[T] walk down the sucker anyway
18:56 john_minetest khonkhortisan: You are standing in a small village. There are three buildings, one in the west, one in the north, one in the south
18:56 khonkhortisan north
18:56 VanessaE_[T] Oldcoder, it's supposed to be, yeah
18:56 OldCoder Thank you
18:57 VanessaE_[T] though that doesn't always hold true
18:57 john_minetest You are entering a large building. There is one door in the north with "office" on it and one in the west with "toilet" on it.
18:57 john_minetest khonkhortisan ^
18:57 khonkhortisan office
18:58 Peacock speaking of toilets, guess what i used for the captain's chair on the bridge XD
18:58 john_minetest khonkhortisan: The command "office" is not known. Try "look" or either s,w,n and e.
18:58 khonkhortisan aw
18:58 khonkhortisan north
18:59 john_minetest You enter a office. There is one large desk with a lamp on it and a thrash bin in a corner.
18:59 john_minetest There is only the exit you entered.
18:59 khonkhortisan take lamp, take bin
19:00 john_minetest You can't take the lamp with you, it is too heavy.
19:00 khonkhortisan look bin
19:00 john_minetest You don't want to take an ugly bin with you.
19:00 john_minetest You look into the bin...
19:00 khonkhortisan sorry I must go. Someone else can play
19:00 john_minetest You find some bubble gum and a paper with something on it.
19:01 john_minetest cya khonkhortisan.
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19:01 john_minetest hello
19:02 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:02 john_minetest Hey, do you want to continue the adventure game? Just write "look".
19:02 [0gb_us] Hello!
19:02 [0gb_us] Okay ... It seems to be only one world that regenerates over my structures, and that world has a blank map_meta.txt. Although what blanked that file in only the one world is beyond me.
19:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:03 john_minetest You are in an office. There is one large desk with a lamp on it and a thrash bin in a corner. In the bin there is a paper with someone written on it and a chewed bubblegum.
19:03 [0gb_us] Look at what?
19:03 john_minetest The exit is to the south.
19:04 john_minetest now you can use the commands "n, w, s, and e" for navigation, look for looking at something or the situation in general and "take" to take something
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19:05 Peacock what is this a mud?
19:05 john_minetest yes
19:05 john_minetest a text adventure
19:05 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:05 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:05 Peacock a long fucking time ago i wrote an Are You Being Served? mud lol
19:05 Peacock then i did it perl for the browser lol
19:05 john_minetest lol
19:06 [0gb_us] Even odder ... I just intentionally blanked a map_meta.txt of another world, yet this other world doesn't show the same symptoms. Something else is at play here ....
19:06 john_minetest Minetest herobrine?
19:06 [0gb_us] No, world regeneration.
19:06 john_minetest lol...
19:06 john_minetest Prestotron562: Now keep on playing!
19:07 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:07 john_minetest :D
19:07 john_minetest Then anybody else
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19:07 john_minetest Or not.
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19:08 [0gb_us] Got it. It isn't regenerating, it's just failing to save the data to the map.sqlite file. And it IS caused by the blank map_meta.txt file. Now I just need to figure out why that file was blank in the first place.
19:08 john_minetest Prestotron562: It is a version incompatibility.
19:08 Peacock it doesnt fill on mine either and im the server lol
19:08 VanessaE_[T] sooner or later I'll learn how to use this thing
19:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:09 [0gb_us] VanessaE_[T], use what? The mobile IRC client?
19:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:10 VanessaE_[T] (this time I accidentally shut down :P )
19:10 [0gb_us] It does, if you computer isn't asleep or powered off.
19:10 [0gb_us] *your
19:11 VanessaE_[T] putting the computer to sleep shuts down the network devices
19:11 VanessaE_[T] that why it said you weren't connected.... duh :-)
19:11 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:11 VanessaE_[T] lol
19:12 VanessaE_[T] (normally it shuts down everything except the RAM and e power control circuitrs
19:12 VanessaE_[T] circuits*
19:12 * Jordach has learned Jordach's girlfriends number by the dialing tone
19:12 VanessaE_[T] so don't expect that bitcoin miner to keep running either :-)
19:13 [0gb_us] Circus?
19:13 VanessaE_[T] 0gb, gimme a break, I'm still learning how to type fast on this thing
19:13 VanessaE_[T] :-)
19:14 Jordach heh
19:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:14 Jordach yeah, when i hear the dialing tone on loud, i can tell who that person is by the tones played back
19:16 * Jordach eats a Mint Aero bar
19:16 [0gb_us] Sorry VanessaE, I just love to hassle people.
19:16 VanessaE_[T] that is a good idea.....
19:16 * VanessaE_[T] grabs a protein bar
19:16 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:17 * Jordach hands VanessaE_[T] a square of aero
19:17 Jordach Prestotron562, screen saver keeps thuings running
19:17 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:18 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/x2RWj
19:19 Mossmanikin lol
19:20 VanessaE_[T] o
19:20 VanessaE_[T] no
19:20 VanessaE_[T] screensavers just look pretty
19:20 VanessaE_[T] they either consume GPU or CPU or they sh off the screen
19:20 VanessaE_[T] but they don't do anything special otherwise
19:20 VanessaE_[T] s/sh/shut/
19:20 VanessaE_[T] haha..... someone looks .... upset :-)
19:20 Peacock looking at the source for minetest_game, i dont see a range value anywhere, so why doesn't my air pockets fill in?
19:21 VanessaE_[T] 0gb, this tablet in general.   first one I
19:21 VanessaE_[T] ... I've owned
19:21 Peacock id love see a pic of ballmer throwing the chair lol
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19:21 Peacock i heard when he resigned, dell had a 21 chair salute
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19:21 VanessaE_[T] *grumble*  this client doesn't do tab complete
19:21 sfan5 VanessaE_[T]: cmon do /nick VanessaT
19:21 Peacock its a tablet :P
19:22 Jordach_ wtf quassel -- wtf
19:22 VanessaE_[T] peacock, it has a tab key, it just isn't that useful :P
19:22 Peacock wtf is a quassel? some form of english cooking?
19:22 VanessaE_[T] another irc client
19:23 Peacock im a pretty skinny guy ( < 130lbs) and even i cant tap the right keys on my smartphone keyboard lol
19:23 Jordach_ okay. this is unusual
19:24 Peacock voice to text is a no-go since every time it gets a word wrong i start inadvertently inserting expletives
19:24 VanessaE_[T] lol
19:24 * Jordach_ feels the same
19:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:24 Peacock im going back to a dumb phone when this cell contract expires in a month
19:24 Peacock with a hard keyboard lol
19:24 VanessaE_[T] this one can do that and I've already seen some...creative fails :-)
19:25 Peacock like "damn auto cat rectal" (damn autocorrect)
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19:25 VanessaE_[T] lol
19:25 jojoa1997 Hi
19:25 Peacock seems like im not the only one since it keeps turning up in memes too lol
19:25 sfan5 plol
19:25 Jordach plol
19:25 VanessaE_[T] I turned that fucking thing off the first chance I had
19:25 [0gb_us] I've never used a tablet either.
19:25 Jordach ninja'd
19:26 [0gb_us] Hello!
19:26 sfan5 Jordach: I ninja'd you
19:26 jojoa1997 VanessaE tablet?
19:26 Jordach sfan5, according to my client, both at the identical time
19:26 VanessaE_[T] 0gb, you're lagging :-)
19:26 VanessaE_[T] jojo, yeah
19:26 Peacock i still prefer netbooks to tablets, even though they got more expensive for some reason
19:26 sfan5 Jordach: mine says identical too
19:26 jojoa1997 hay we can be tablet buddies
19:26 VanessaE_[T] jojo, you forgot to done something about that mese giver thingy
19:27 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/FixCPy5.png
19:27 [0gb_us] My router is acting wonky, and I keep disconnecting.
19:27 Jordach sfan5, see imgur linky
19:27 VanessaE_[T] uh....
19:27 sfan5 [0gb_us]: restart it
19:27 Jordach [0gb_us], have you tried turning it on and off again
19:27 sfan5 ^ ususally works
19:27 jojoa1997 what
19:27 sfan5 -s
19:27 Peacock my router is being weird too, sometimes i lose my network, and a bunch of weird ones show up in wicd
19:27 [0gb_us] I can't reach the router at the moment. I restarted it yesterday though, and that helped for a few hours.
19:28 Peacock for some reason, network-manager can connect to my network from a livecd, but not once the system is installed lol
19:28 sfan5 [0gb_us]: I can restart mine via network
19:28 [0gb_us] How do you do that?
19:29 Peacock type your routers adress, should be a reset button
19:29 Peacock (in the browser)
19:29 sfan5 [0gb_us]: <first-3-parts-of-your-ip>.1 should go to your router
19:29 Peacock many people dont change their routers' default passwords, ive had oodles of fun renaming cafe networks :P
19:30 Jordach Peacock, ItBurnsWhenIP
19:30 [0gb_us] Yeah, I know the router's address, I use that for configuration. I've just never found a restart option there.
19:30 Peacock jordach get checked for STDs
19:30 Jordach Peacock, use that for the network name next time
19:30 sfan5 [0gb_us]: what router is it, maybe you can use a bug and install telnetd on it
19:30 Peacock check under "connection" or admin or some other tab
19:31 Peacock heck i once had a tech give me a new Bell router for a non-bell network, i had to flash it with firmware from signapore to connect lol
19:31 sfan5 >signaport
19:31 sfan5 derp
19:31 sfan5 >signaport
19:31 Peacock i think it was signtel or something like that
19:31 sfan5 derp
19:31 Peacock its this white, upright router
19:31 * sfan5 can't write
19:32 [0gb_us] It's a NetGear RangeMax(tm) NEXT Wireless-N. But if I try to install something and I render the router unusable, I'm screwed. If it's low risk, I'll try it, but nothing dangerous or complicated.
19:32 Peacock this one http://support.bell.ca/_web​/internet/modems/2Wire.jpg
19:32 Peacock well routers are cheap now
19:33 [0gb_us] I'm not seeing the reset option under any tab.
19:33 [0gb_us] I don't have the money for the things I need, let alone things I don't, such as a new router.
19:33 sfan5 reset usually means "delete all settings"
19:34 john_minetest Routers can run linux. I thought that I could use one but they are a bit too limited imo.
19:34 john_minetest I could use a faster ARM device that costs the same.
19:35 sfan5 john_minetest: most routers already run linux, also OpenWrt
19:35 john_minetest sfan5: I know, I mean a custom linux with no limitations. But the hardware is crappy.
19:36 john_minetest I prefer having a 1GHz hackberry A10.
19:36 Peacock talking about dd-wrt?
19:36 sfan5 "no limitations" router ought to have security bugs so you can easily do things like reverse shell
19:37 john_minetest Well, I prefer hardware that can be used for really doing stuff.
19:38 VanessaE_[T] 'really do stuff'....  in other words, root it and install some other OS :-)
19:38 VanessaE_[T] s/root/jailbreak/
19:39 Peacock i dont care about jailbreaking my router, im just pissed my upnp doesnt seem to work
19:40 * sfan5 's router doesn't even have UPnP
19:40 * Jordach has working upnop
19:40 Jordach =o
19:40 Jordach -o
19:40 * Calinou 's router has UPnP disabled
19:40 Jordach kick me ShadowBot and i will break your fucking neck
19:40 Peacock though deluge still seems to download fine, its just uploads that dont work lol
19:40 sfan5 my router could run a FritzBox firmware(which has 150% more features than this crappy telekom firmware) but...
19:40 [0gb_us] * ShadowBot fails to have a neck, broken or otherwise
19:41 john_minetest My router runs some deprecated linux version.
19:41 john_minetest It's some Fritz!Box
19:42 jojoa1997 say anyone know if minetest is close to having lua definable biomes ye?
19:42 MinetestBot GIT: 0gb-us commited to minetest/minetest: Standardized method of getting node info in dungeon mapgen. 211b372e26 2013-09-06T12:42:01-07:00 http://git.io/G2A9yA
19:42 [0gb_us] Oh, joy. That bug has been bugging me (no pun intended) since before I left Minetest.
19:42 sfan5 heh
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19:44 VanessaE_[T] jojo, there is already some code for that, but only for mgv7 I guess
19:44 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:44 jojoa1997 where can i find how to define it?
19:45 * Jordach dis-assembles ShadowBot and makes her look like a fucking meccano set
19:45 Jordach well, there's your problem :P
19:45 [0gb_us] !g meccano
19:46 VanessaE_[T] jojo, I'm not sure but I kn
19:46 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: http://www.meccano.com/
19:46 [0gb_us] Oh, right. ShadowBot is limited in this channel.
19:46 VanessaE_[T] ...I know it's somewhere on github :P
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19:47 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Add mapgen_stair_cobble alias to minimal df3a5a2abf 2013-09-06T12:46:22-07:00 http://git.io/sb58_Q
19:47 jojoa1997 does any one
19:47 jojoa1997 know
19:47 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add mapgen_stair_cobble to minetest_game a4823a4261 2013-09-06T12:47:21-07:00 http://git.io/dUOz-g
19:47 [0gb_us] Yes.
19:48 jojoa1997 where
19:48 [0gb_us] We know.
19:48 jojoa1997 then tell me please
19:48 [0gb_us] Where what?
19:48 * jojoa1997 suspects [0gb_us] trolling
19:48 * [0gb_us] always trolls a little
19:49 [0gb_us] Seriously though, where what?
19:49 jojoa1997 to define biomes via lua
19:49 [0gb_us] I don't think you can yet.
19:50 jojoa1997 with mg7 you can
19:50 VanessaE_[T] you can.
19:50 VanessaE_[T] hmmmm: *poke*
19:51 [0gb_us] According to the documentation, there is no v7 yet. Though it's probably lying to us, it means there isn't going to be documentation on v7 stuff just yet.
19:51 jojoa1997 but you can
19:52 [0gb_us] Is the ignore node handled specially? Even when I redefine it, it stays mostly the same.
19:52 jojoa1997 bbl
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19:53 [0gb_us] Bye.
19:53 [0gb_us] Good luck!
19:54 john_minetest Lol, visiting linus torvalds would be a "1337 and greet"
19:55 VanessaE_[T] heh
19:55 Peacock only if you want your ass handed to you lol
19:55 Peacock (he sounds like a dick)
19:56 VanessaE_[T] I didn't get that impression last time I saw him speak (video
19:56 VanessaE_[T] of course)
19:56 Peacock i hear about him more on slashdot lol
19:57 VanessaE_[T] just that he has a "no bullshit" attitude
19:57 Peacock theres a difference between "no bullshit" and "complete lack of professionalism"
19:57 VanessaE_[T] true
19:58 Peacock which he doesn't believe in (being professional)
19:58 VanessaE_[T] but then again, define "professionalism"
19:58 Peacock expressing your thoughts without using the language of a teenager
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19:58 VanessaE_[T] meh
19:58 Jordach|MT pretty fucking difficult
19:59 VanessaE_[T] most adults use the same language anyway
19:59 Peacock yet theres a difference between simply using profanity, and completely burning people
19:59 VanessaE_[T] being professional doesn't have to mean being a stuffed shirt
19:59 [0gb_us] I know I use the same language now as I did then. Although, people do tell me I speak overly formally.
19:59 * Jordach|MT looks at google
20:00 Peacock well no we live in a world of grey areas, i cant stand stuffshirts as much as i cant stand complete dicks lol
20:00 Jordach|MT levi's, ac/dc shirt, pretty sure google knows their shit
20:00 VanessaE_[T] oh you mean when he laid into that one dev?
20:00 Peacock ogb i too believe in a certain degree of formality with people i dont really know
20:01 john_minetest Who is this discussion about
20:01 VanessaE_[T] mauro chehab, that was the name
20:01 Peacock Vanessa the last one yeah, but other articles have popped up on other issues he's had with people
20:01 [0gb_us] I don't know what you're talking about. I speak formally even with the people I DO know.
20:01 Peacock he seems like a child to me
20:01 * Jordach|MT files a bug for the kernel bug tracker: Torvalds being an asshole
20:02 Peacock when children learn to speak, they stop throwing hissy fits an use words instead to get what they need
20:02 Peacock by the same token, most teenagers eventually evolve beyond burning/swearing at people to get their point across
20:02 VanessaE_[T] (you'd think I'd have remembered easier, I've had conversations with him myself)
20:02 john_minetest Jordach|MT: Did you read his autobiography? He even states he is an asshole.
20:02 VanessaE_[T] hahahah
20:02 john_minetest And that he can't really talk in front of people.
20:02 [0gb_us] Did you really file that bug, Jordach|MT?
20:03 Jordach|MT i was taking the piss [0gb_us]
20:03 Jordach|MT like normal
20:03 Peacock but hey, the top OSS people never really held down formal jobs for long so you cant expect them to have the same approach
20:05 Peacock though im sure torvalds thinks he's weeding out the dumbasses, he's actually pushing the professional people with time to give back to the proprietary camp
20:05 john_minetest Translation from german: <article that states that linus became ignorant and an asshole because of his success> linus: "Everybody who reads this article might think I became an asshole because of the responsibilities in my role as the chef-nerd. But that isn't right. I have always been an asshole."
20:06 john_minetest From Linus Torvalds/David Diamond - Just For Fun
20:06 Peacock there ya go, he'd be a great boss, but since no one is getting paid in OSS, theres not much reason to put up with people like that
20:07 Peacock id rather give my time to any number of charities with a better sense of community lol
20:08 john_minetest OSS has the disadvantage that everybody can come in and say: "uh, this is bad and you are an asshole, make it better" and the coders have to fix it. In commercial software the support has to listen to what the people say and the programmers get payed properly.
20:09 john_minetest And they can decide not to listen to jerks.
20:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:09 Peacock well proprietary pays people full time to work on shit, and the obvious advantage there is that their profit depends on people wanting their software
20:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:10 VanessaE_[T] gtg....bbl
20:10 Miner_48er when is the next stable release expected?
20:10 Jordach|MT soon.
20:10 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:10 Miner_48er week month?
20:10 Peacock the advantage to OSS is that it's free, but being based on volunteerism, people have to be willing to give their time, which doesn't happen in a hostile environment
20:11 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:11 Peacock seems half the slashdot crowd can't wait for torvalds to follow steve jobs lol
20:11 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:12 Miner_48er ok can i have an estimate?
20:12 john_minetest ...
20:12 Miner_48er deciding when to update a server
20:13 Miner_48er guesstimate?
20:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:14 Miner_48er ok thx
20:14 Calinou Soon™
20:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:15 Peacock congrats, have a pony :P
20:16 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:16 Miner_48er over a year
20:17 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:18 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:20 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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20:21 Miner_48er the times vary
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20:25 sfan5 Prestotron562: "I can say many fixes will be done along with cool stuff added." gives the impression that your are a core dev
20:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:30 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:30 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:36 Peacock one can only hope
20:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:39 Mossmanikin water melon tastes good
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20:43 Vazon Can some help me in deleting a tpic on forums, I dont know how.
20:45 Mossmanikin Prestotron562: Silence is a rare commodity in this noisy world. Do not fear what you do not know...
20:46 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:46 Mossmanikin :D
20:46 Vazon does anyone know how?
20:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:49 Jordach Prestotron562, it's not awkward
20:49 Jordach if it goes quiet, no one is around to read it
20:49 Jordach and the FUCKING HINGE ON MY HEADSET SNAPPED
20:50 Vazon how to delete a topic on forums
20:50 Mossmanikin AFAIK a user can't delete a topic, if I'm not mistaken, even a moderator can't delete a topic just like that
20:50 Jordach Vazon, point me at it
20:50 Jordach mods can
20:50 Vazon -.- well i need my server topic deleted
20:50 Miner_48er why?
20:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:51 Vazon Miner_48er im makeing a new page with out all this drama on banns on it, it is rediculas and im redoing the server page it just would save time.
20:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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20:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:52 Prestotron562 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
20:52 Miner_48er https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6948
20:52 Jordach Vazon, yes, yes i can: http://i.imgur.com/6aHYbS7.jpg
20:52 sfan5 how complicated would it be to have a forum software that requires you to dig in mysql stuff to delete a topic
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20:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:52 sfan5 Mossmanikin: moderators can delete topics
20:53 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:53 Jordach Mossmanikin, http://i.imgur.com/6aHYbS7.jpg
20:53 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:53 Vazon Jordach well can you delete mine plz
20:53 Jordach linky
20:53 sfan5 Prestotron562: that were 5 messages
20:53 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:54 Miner_48er Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6948
20:54 sfan5 Vazon: I moved your topic into the (secret) trash forum
20:54 Vazon thanks sfan5 :)
20:54 Jordach sfan5, you bloody ninja'd me
20:54 Vazon so am i free to make a new forum?
20:54 sfan5 :D
20:54 * Jordach was on move topic page
20:54 Vazon XD
20:54 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:55 sfan5 Vazon: yes, you can make a new topic
20:55 Vazon thanks guys
20:55 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:56 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:56 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:56 john_minetest Prestotron562: Are you running linux?
20:56 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:56 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:56 john_minetest Okay. When you run linux you don't have to reboot ever.
20:56 Jordach this is where both requested and bad posts go to die: http://i.imgur.com/XcocrgI.png
20:57 john_minetest "you wont believe me"
20:57 john_minetest And I don't understand the UI of ubuntu.
20:57 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:57 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:57 Jordach there is some really old shit in there, i only read it if i'm bored as fuck
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20:58 sfan5 john_minetest: things like this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2943
20:58 john_minetest The only thing I know about the ubuntu UI is that the dash start thingie contains a search bar where I can call the terminal :b
20:59 * Jordach lols
20:59 john_minetest sfan5: The title is in Jordach's screenshot.
20:59 sfan5 Jordach: or like this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7112
20:59 Jordach john_minetest, http://i.imgur.com/wdIQGPI.png
20:59 Jordach sfan5, i count three of em
20:59 Jordach we should name it hall of shame
20:59 john_minetest Actually the first thing I do when I have to use ubuntu is opening a terminal
21:00 john_minetest Jordach: "Hall of shame" sounds too much like german amateur rap battles. And the posts aren't SO bad and stupid.
21:00 sfan5 Jordach: DeepGaze argued with me whether this[1] was nonsense
21:00 sfan5 [1]: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6590
21:01 * john_minetest looks at his stats...
21:01 Jordach > Trash
21:01 Jordach lol, sfan5 won
21:01 Jordach john_minetest, there used to be flaming towards devs
21:01 Jordach those got moved
21:01 john_minetest 15 john_minetest327116316010861862today"My router runs some deprecated linux version."
21:02 john_minetest yay, getting closer to the 14 :b
21:02 Jordach dafuq
21:02 john_minetest http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
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21:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:03 sfan5 plol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6238
21:03 john_minetest Lol: "MinetestBot wasn't very popular, getting kicked 9 times!"
21:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:04 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:04 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/BW0kmMC.png
21:04 john_minetest Stop posting funny mod stuff that I can't read
21:04 Jordach at least dumbass markv is gone
21:05 sfan5 john_minetest: topic title: "I CANNOT WRITE SO I CANT MAKE WORLDS" topic content: [not relevant]
21:05 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:06 john_minetest Hey, I will write an angry email to them if they don't add my [edudrugs] (Educational drugs) mod. I mean, it even has the word "Education" in it!
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21:12 Jordach KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!
21:12 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:13 john_minetest The most awesome texture pack EVER: http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pasties/​store/13204/screenshot_48745404.png
21:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:13 john_minetest Look how elegant it is: http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pasties/​store/13204/screenshot_48745404.png
21:13 john_minetest It isn't simple.
21:13 john_minetest But it is very lightweight.
21:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:13 john_minetest One of the most leightweight texture packs
21:13 john_minetest The look might be simple.
21:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:14 sfan5 0 bytes
21:14 john_minetest 0 bits.
21:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:14 sfan5 it is also very dynamic
21:14 sfan5 changes everytime your start the game
21:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:14 [0gb_us] That looks like an oil spill.
21:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:15 john_minetest wow, now the water is green and the land is violet
21:16 * [0gb_us] pulls out some dish soap and a soft brush to clean baby penguins
21:17 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:18 * sfan5 pulls out some soft brush and a baby penguin to clean dish soap
21:19 [0gb_us] I wondered what tools were good for cleaning and reusing dish soap. That will save me a lot of money.
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21:22 Soy_ Hello, I had 2 questions. Can someone help?
21:22 sfan5 yes
21:22 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:22 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:22 sfan5 Prestotron562: no
21:22 [0gb_us] It depends on the questions. We may have relevant and helpful answers.
21:22 sfan5 ^
21:23 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:23 Soy_ If I install mod onto singleplayer game. Then use that singleplayer world to make it a server will the mods and builds carry over?
21:23 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:23 [0gb_us] Yes.
21:23 sfan5 the mods no, the builds yes
21:23 sfan5 well, it depends
21:23 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:24 Soy_ I mean mod as like add on
21:24 Soy_ like world edit
21:24 [0gb_us] What? I used a "modded" singleplayer world and turned it into a server world, and the "mods" carried over.
21:24 khonkhortisan If you use your client to make a server, it uses both minetest_game and your .minetest/mods/, depending on which mods/modpacks are enabled in the world (settable through the client)
21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:24 sfan5 Soy_: you need to install the mod in the server too
21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:24 sfan5 Prestotron562: worldedit is not a "building"
21:25 khonkhortisan The world says which mods it uses. Wherever you run the server from, it has to have access to both the world and the mods. Which, if you didn't do anything unusual, it will.
21:25 Soy_ Say I install it on singleplayer then make that world a server, can I download the same mod twice for tthe same world
21:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:25 khonkhortisan download?
21:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:25 Soy_ install
21:25 khonkhortisan I can think of two reasons for twice
21:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 khonkhortisan You can use a separate mod directory for your server, and use your regular directory for singleplayer games if you wish.
21:26 khonkhortisan Or, you may mean the client "downloading" the nodes and textures that the mods create
21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 Soy_ Is it hard to install mods?
21:26 khonkhortisan A singleplayer game is still a client/server connection
21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 Soy_ I never tried yet
21:26 khonkhortisan no it's not hard
21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:27 sfan5 Prestotron562: yes
21:27 Soy_ Can someone walk me through or is their a wiki?
21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:27 khonkhortisan You have to put the mods in .minetest/mods/ (or a similarly-named place on a different operating system) then you click Configure on a world to enable the mod.
21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:27 Soy_ Okay Prestotron562 Let me create are own irc
21:27 khonkhortisan the first thing to installing mods is knowing what operating system you have
21:28 Soy_ I dont want to spam everyone
21:28 khonkhortisan meh
21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:28 john_minetest I'll make a texture pack
21:28 khonkhortisan but then I miss out
21:28 Soy_ Inless you guys are ok with this
21:28 Soy_ I want to install world edit
21:28 Soy_ I use windows vista
21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:28 Soy_ Hang on I make now
21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:29 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:29 Soy_ #Prestotron562
21:29 Soy_ Is the irc
21:29 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:29 Soy_ ok
21:29 Soy_ Thank you everyone
21:29 Soy_ You been very helpful
21:30 Soy_ <3
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21:32 john_minetest Lol, "helpful"... Actually I didn't find any of the requested information in that conversation and the description of the problem wasn't quite exact.
21:33 john_minetest And everybody was talking at the same time, providing different informations.
21:33 john_minetest And semi-contradictory ones.
21:34 [0gb_us] You know, sometime opposing answers about a topic you need help with gets the job done.
21:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:37 john_minetest Helpful like:
21:37 john_minetest <newbie>: How do I make network in linux?
21:37 john_minetest <pr0> Just use netctl or dhcpcd
21:37 john_minetest <linux_guy> Best would be to use bsd socket libs
21:37 john_minetest <another_n00b> I think firefox is best
21:37 john_minetest The question is unclear and the answers are just confusing.
21:38 john_minetest There should be a test introduced that people have to do before they are allowed to enter the internet. Learning how to ask, fundamental rules of netiquette, taking nothing personal.
21:38 john_minetest *how to ask smart questions.
21:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:39 sfan5 john_minetest: and the difference between your and you and you're
21:39 sfan5 Prestotron562: too hard to do
21:40 john_minetest sfan: and that alot is an animal and a lot is much more.
21:40 john_minetest :D
21:40 john_minetest irrlicht can run in chrome browser iirc.
21:42 sfan5 are you sure?
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21:45 john_minetest sfan5: iirc I saw a screenshot on the irrlicht site
21:45 john_minetest I think it was modded a bit to do that but it worked
21:48 john_minetest Can't find it now
21:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:49 john_minetest sfan5: How about adding commands like !rtfm (wiki links) and !questions (how to ask smart questions) to minetestbot?
21:49 sfan5 john_minetest: pull request...
21:49 john_minetest I have something here but since I hacked it together it might not work
21:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:55 john_minetest sfan5: Doing cloning and stuff now.
21:56 john_minetest It will add the commands: !rtfm -> wiki links, !questions -> how to ask smart questions and !next -> "Another satisfied customer. Next!"
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22:04 john_minetest sfan5: There you have your pull request
22:05 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:05 john_minetest The things you lol'd about
22:05 john_minetest 7 minutes ago.
22:06 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:06 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:06 john_minetest sfan5: I am not sure if it will work, I actually just re-wrote the !help command.
22:06 john_minetest Prestotron562: You can do that much simpler.
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22:07 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:07 yyamiyyugi Hello
22:07 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:07 john_minetest Prestotron562: "/ctcp Prestotron562 time"
22:07 john_minetest Hi yyamiyyugi
22:07 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:07 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:07 yyamiyyugi I just happened to stumble upon this game looking for a minecraft mod for drops, gotta say, it look like it has real potential
22:08 john_minetest Prestotron562: Oh, you mean the ingame chat?
22:08 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:08 john_minetest yyamiyyugi: Well, it does, that's why we are here :D
22:08 yyamiyyugi lol, What is there as far as server goes, as in how playable is multiplayer?
22:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:09 john_minetest Prestotron562: Well, lag is a network thing, you can't say that like this.
22:09 yyamiyyugi So anything like plugins avalable?
22:10 john_minetest Yeah, mods are aviable.
22:10 yyamiyyugi I did have less lag in single player XD
22:10 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:10 yyamiyyugi like, multiplayer mods?
22:10 john_minetest Yeah, server side multiplayer mods.
22:10 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:10 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:10 yyamiyyugi ok, will do
22:10 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:10 john_minetest All mods work for singleplayer and multiplayer.
22:11 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:11 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:12 john_minetest Prestotron562: Or you simply wait until the lua mapgen api is finished.
22:12 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:15 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:16 john_minetest Look in the forums.
22:16 john_minetest It isn't ingame.
22:17 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:17 john_minetest Look in the forums.
22:17 john_minetest There are thousands of mods, I can't know all of them.
22:19 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:19 john_minetest Prestotron562 will be #1 in the most posts soon. And if I keep answering I will be #14 soon.
22:20 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:22 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:23 PilzAdam Prestotron562, he means that you talk to much
22:23 PilzAdam you should think more and search more on your own
22:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:24 PilzAdam dont use google
22:25 john_minetest Prestotron562: Use ixquick.com for searching.
22:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:25 PilzAdam ixquick.com
22:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:25 PilzAdam yes
22:25 john_minetest or startpage.com
22:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:25 VanessaE what, duck duck go fell out of favor?
22:25 VanessaE I need to pay more attention.
22:26 PilzAdam VanessaE, duck duck go isnt good, it tries to copy google
22:26 john_minetest google is bad.
22:26 PilzAdam and it obviously isnt as good as google
22:26 VanessaE meh, I use google anyway
22:26 john_minetest I use ixquick.,
22:26 PilzAdam ixquick.com is a meta search engine
22:26 VanessaE they already know everything they can learn about me, so meh :)
22:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:27 john_minetest switch. If you want to have some privacy.
22:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:27 john_minetest I am used to ixquick and rarely metager.
22:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:27 PilzAdam lol
22:27 john_minetest VPNs aren't completely secure.
22:27 VanessaE they can find you if they try hard enough and if you're an interesting enough target :)
22:27 john_minetest Google can easily track you over session cookies.
22:27 john_minetest Mmmmm... Cookies....
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22:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:28 john_minetest Prestotron562: Do you take cookies in browser?
22:28 john_minetest Then you aren't private.
22:29 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:29 yyamiyyugi so do I need a forums account to play multiplayer or, how does that work?
22:29 john_minetest Also JS or flash can reveal your identities.
22:29 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:29 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:29 john_minetest yyamiyyugi: No, just log in.
22:29 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:29 VanessaE I'm not afraid of being tracked.  wtf are they gonna with the info they know about me?  Change the ads they already push on me anyway? :P
22:30 PilzAdam yyamiyyugi, your login name and password are per server, not global
22:30 john_minetest yyamiyyugi: There is no central server, every server has an own account for you. So you can use several accounts and password for every server you join.
22:30 yyamiyyugi oh ok
22:30 john_minetest VanessaE: Well, because you are famous and everybody knows everything about you.
22:30 john_minetest :b
22:30 VanessaE me, famous?  :P
22:30 VanessaE hardly.
22:30 VanessaE I'm just a loudmouth :D
22:30 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:30 john_minetest The only ones who want to know stuff about you are the star and fashion magazines :D
22:31 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:31 john_minetest 17415 lines in chat and #1 with most lines says everything :D
22:31 VanessaE heh
22:31 john_minetest http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
22:31 VanessaE toldya
22:32 john_minetest I should stand up earlier and write a lot. Then I could get #1 for 6:00-11:00 am chat :D
22:32 john_minetest Well, more like number 10...
22:32 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:32 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:33 john_minetest no, it was used 1520 times.
22:33 john_minetest And you used it the last time.
22:33 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:34 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:35 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:35 john_minetest If you would use linux you won't need system restarts.
22:35 VanessaE restarts are still needed unless you also pay for ksplice...
22:35 john_minetest you would do "sudo pacman -Syu" or some apt get install and then your distro is fully updated.
22:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:36 john_minetest Sometimes restarts might be useful.
22:36 Kray you have to restart just like on windows
22:36 john_minetest But only when some boot stuff changes.
22:36 john_minetest Like some new kernel module in systemd.
22:36 VanessaE Mostly linux here - my PC, my husband's (plus windows in a VM), plus an android tablet.
22:36 john_minetest Or init or runit or whatever.
22:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:37 john_minetest Mostly windows here. My linux PCs are hardware-related shitty.
22:37 VanessaE I only shutdown/reboot for kernel updates or hardware changes.
22:38 john_minetest I shutdown over the night because I hate having a PC running all night long.
22:38 VanessaE suspend.
22:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:38 john_minetest But I often had my linux PC on for 24 hours.
22:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:38 VanessaE Mine stays on 24/7 only because I run servers, else I'd suspend
22:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:38 VanessaE yes
22:38 john_minetest I read that standby is often better than switching off.
22:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:39 VanessaE john_minetest: not so much better as much faster to get back to the state you were in before sleep (i.e. shutdown means a full cold boot, whereas suspend just turns some devices back on but doesn't have to reload the RAM)
22:40 VanessaE in both cases, most of the system power is turned off
22:41 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:41 john_minetest VanessaE: yeah, a boot is a very energy-consuming process.
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22:42 john_minetest Even a 24/7 suspended PC is better than switching it on and reading mails once a day.
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22:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:49 VanessaE sorry, no - a lot of people get that
22:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:50 VanessaE yes
22:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:50 VanessaE mostly happens with integrated chipsets I guess
22:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:50 VanessaE it's some sort of off-by-1 erorr
22:50 VanessaE error*
22:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:50 VanessaE no
22:51 john_minetest Prestotron562: It is in the FAQ of the forum. I told you.
22:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:51 john_minetest Well, then it is a hardware problem, reinstalling won't help
22:51 john_minetest Nothing can help you anymore
22:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:52 john_minetest I had that once. FAQ helped for me. But before I found the faq I had this for months. You will survive that.
22:53 john_minetest lol, I ixquick'd startpage :b
22:53 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:55 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:55 john_minetest Prestotron562: Since minetest isn't run by any company it hasn't a company name.
22:55 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:57 iqualfragile hi guys
22:57 john_minetest hi iqualfragile
22:58 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:58 john_minetest I should really make a text adventure since I showed so much creativity today :b
22:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:00 [0gb_us] I'm not worried about Google tracking me, but the fact that Google no longer provides direct links to search results is annoying. Thanks for the new search interfaces!
23:02 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:02 [0gb_us] I was gone.
23:02 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:03 john_minetest I got direct links. Thanks to ixquick.
23:03 john_minetest And I haven't used google for... hmmm...
23:03 john_minetest eternities
23:03 [0gb_us] Do you know how to set Ixquick as the search engine in Firefox? It won't let me the normal way.
23:04 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:05 [0gb_us] Add it manually how though?
23:05 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:05 VanessaE criminy
23:05 Exio4 anyone for wolfgame?
23:06 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:06 Exio4 we are in ##werewolf :P
23:06 Exio4 a game
23:06 john_minetest [0gb_us]: There is a button on the ixquick site that says: "Install in browser"
23:06 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:06 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:07 Jordach Prestotron562, reminder: not everything YOU DO IS WORTH being PUT IN CORE.
23:07 john_minetest ixquick is https://ixquick.com/do/search?q={seachterm}
23:07 Jordach you are aiming far too high
23:07 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:07 [0gb_us] Okay, found it. Thanks!
23:07 Jordach you make it sound like it will
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23:08 universalbuild Hello?
23:08 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:08 john_minetest hello universalbuild
23:08 VanessaE hi
23:08 universalbuild What are switching stations and how do they work?
23:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:09 universalbuild Lol
23:09 universalbuild Thats me :-)
23:09 Jordach universalbuild, they power other machines you greifer
23:09 john_minetest it flashes strangely here... without thunder...
23:09 [0gb_us] Hello!
23:09 VanessaE john_minetest: "heat" lightning.
23:09 Jordach VanessaE, err what
23:09 VanessaE what what?
23:09 universalbuild I don't greif though
23:10 Jordach killing other players is also considered griefing btw
23:10 universalbuild ohh
23:10 john_minetest VanessaE: It is night here, good weather, warm, no rain. So flashes are strange.
23:10 yyamiyyugi are there currently any mobs in the game? The wikipage says it's outdated
23:10 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:10 universalbuild twell that was a chaotic server
23:10 * [0gb_us] still doesn't believe in so-called "greifers"
23:10 universalbuild *well
23:10 VanessaE john_minetest: I've seen it before.  that's what we call that kind of flashing
23:10 john_minetest okay
23:10 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:11 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:11 VanessaE <Jordach> VanessaE, err what  <-- what, what?
23:11 universalbuild So how do switching stations power other machines?
23:11 Jordach that heat lightning
23:11 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:11 VanessaE universalbuild: they do, as long as you have a power source on the line to begin with
23:11 VanessaE Jordach: oh
23:11 VanessaE universalbuild: a switching station acts like a relay and is what has most of the code that makes the power flow in the mod.
23:11 universalbuild Ohhh thanks :-)
23:12 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:12 john_minetest VanessaE: Maybe it was just a lamp or fireworks. I have nearly no view on the sky, only buildings here so this is more likely.
23:12 john_minetest gtg, it is late.
23:12 VanessaE possibly
23:12 john_minetest bye
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23:12 VanessaE camera flashes maybe
23:12 [0gb_us] G'night.
23:12 universalbuild so its like the off and on button of the technic mod?
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23:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:14 VanessaE wow
23:15 VanessaE universalbuild: I mean a relay in the sense of a relay race
23:15 VanessaE as in power goes in and is then sent back out (without an actual switch)
23:15 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:15 VanessaE think "packet switching" like in a router/network switch/etc
23:16 PilzAdam bbcode fail: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=109369#p109369
23:16 PilzAdam next post he gets it right, I guess
23:17 universalbuild Oh
23:17 universalbuild Thanks vanessa
23:17 VanessaE sure
23:17 Exio4 PilzAdam: WG?
23:18 VanessaE cool hack, wish I'd have thought of this before:  http://www.instructables.com/id​/Binary-Resistance-Decade-Box/
23:18 PilzAdam Exio4, WG means "flat-sharing community" in german
23:18 Exio4 whatever, ##werewolf :P
23:18 Exio4 we need more
23:20 PilzAdam Exio4, wofflegame? ;-)
23:20 Exio4 we're in ##werewolf
23:20 PilzAdam why not #wolfgame?
23:21 Exio4 i don't know, but everyone is playing on ##werewolf :P
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23:22 PilzAdam Prestotron562, nobody cares
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23:23 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:23 PilzAdam its also not very nice to spam the channel with that
23:23 PilzAdam this is not facebook
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23:25 VanessaE PilzAdam: come on man, lay off.
23:25 VanessaE it's called "being sociable".  Most of us were taught such while growing up.
23:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:25 VanessaE that ^^^ is not spam.
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23:26 PilzAdam VanessaE, I have to wait for the next wofflegame round, so I pick on noobs ;-)
23:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:26 VanessaE meh
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23:29 PilzAdam Exio4, just lynch someone to speed it up
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23:34 VanessaE someone needs to just FIX that stupid bug already
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