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00:01 Sh1fty Kacey, what kind of help?
00:02 Kacey making components
00:07 Kacey what is an ALU?
00:08 marktraceur Arithmetic and Logic Unit
00:08 marktraceur It's what does math and comparisons.
00:08 * marktraceur can't believe he remembers Assembly Language class
00:08 Kacey aah ok
00:08 Sh1fty who doesn't :)
00:08 Kacey marktraceur, are you interested in the computer?
00:08 Sh1fty you should maybe start with something simpler
00:08 Kacey what like RAM?
00:09 Sh1fty like a brainfuck interpreter
00:09 marktraceur Kacey: Not particularly interested, but I'll help when I can
00:09 Sh1fty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck
00:09 marktraceur Yeah, brainfuck, that's easy.
00:09 Kacey alright can you explain ROM to me?
00:10 kaeza Kacey, maybe a computer is too complicated using plain µcode
00:10 marktraceur Kacey: Nobody uses ROM anymore, do they?
00:10 Kacey well i want toknow what it is in case i need it
00:11 marktraceur Kacey: Read Only Material
00:11 kaeza marktraceur, what is ROM :P
00:11 kaeza ?
00:11 marktraceur It's something that you can only read from, as opposed to writing also.
00:11 Kacey but what does it do?
00:11 kaeza </sarcasm>
00:11 marktraceur Kacey: It's just read-only storage. Static.
00:11 jin_xi it stores stuff
00:11 Kacey RAM stores
00:11 Sh1fty marktraceur, harvard arch uses it
00:11 marktraceur So does ROM.
00:12 kaeza I mean, even BIOS is not "ROM" anymore
00:12 marktraceur Maybe it's Read-Only Memory? I don't know.
00:12 marktraceur Yeah, memory.
00:12 Sh1fty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_architecture
00:13 marktraceur Kacey: The only things that could be useful for ROM might be e.g. version information for your computer, maybe some authour information, or some constant values
00:13 kaeza marktraceur, ROM = Read-Only Memory, RAM = Random Access Memory
00:13 marktraceur Axectly.
00:13 marktraceur Exactly.
00:13 * marktraceur facepalm
00:13 kaeza random, as in "you can access bytes from random addresses"
00:13 kaeza and both read/write
00:14 marktraceur kaeza: We weren't really discussing RAM, but yes, that's true.
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00:14 marktraceur IIRC Kacey has already built RAM.
00:14 Kacey i have ^_^
00:14 Kacey i need more to do
00:15 kaeza how many data can you store in it Kacey ?
00:15 Kacey well...
00:15 kaeza much*
00:15 Kacey i can make them in all sizes
00:15 VanessaE a better question is what is your volume-to-storage ratio?
00:15 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
00:15 Minetest-tan 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.301ms)
00:15 VanessaE 10x10x10 nodes stores how many bytes?
00:15 Kacey 1 input for 1 output
00:17 kaeza hmm...
00:17 Kacey join that kaeza
00:18 Sh1fty so you made a D flip-flop?
00:19 paxcoder bb
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00:19 Kacey that was the basic RAM
00:20 jojoa1997 is it possible to have a config file just for a certain world
00:20 VanessaE jojoa1997: sure, I do that with the server.
00:20 VanessaE the --config option
00:20 jojoa1997 oh can i do that with singleplayer
00:20 VanessaE point that to whatever your particular config file should be for the world/server in question
00:21 jojoa1997 how
00:21 VanessaE minetestserver --config /path/to/minetest.conf
00:21 VanessaE or minetest --config ...
00:21 jojoa1997 one sec
00:22 jojoa1997 so i made a world what next?
00:22 jojoa1997 i didnt go in it yet
00:22 VanessaE make a copy of minetest.conf, call it something like minetest-myworld.conf
00:22 VanessaE then do
00:23 VanessaE minetest --config /path/to/minetest-myworld.conf
00:23 VanessaE any changes you make to the game's settings will go into *that* file only
00:23 jojoa1997 so i can out it in the world folder?
00:23 VanessaE you can but MT doesn't care where it is - you're using --config to force it.
00:24 jojoa1997 it says add ons what do i do?
00:24 jojoa1997 and has mod:N/A in the corner
00:25 VanessaE I don't know how that thing works
00:25 jojoa1997 ok so do i use the config button in the main menu or is it a command line
00:25 VanessaE and it's always giving me "ERROR: these mods were not found:" (with nothing listed) at the top of the screen when I start a world.
00:26 VanessaE wait a minute, what exactly are you trying to do?
00:26 VanessaE that Configure button has no relationship to your minetest.conf file
00:26 VanessaE (or the alternate one you are pointing to)
00:26 jojoa1997 i want to make a config file for a world that i will be giving to someone to put on their server. also i need to get the right seed and want to use the conf
00:27 VanessaE only way I personally know of to do that is just as I said, then, and tell the user to use that config file.
00:28 jojoa1997 but where do i put the words for the conf file
00:28 jojoa1997 the words to set the path to that file
00:29 VanessaE minetest --config path/to/your/config/file
00:30 VanessaE command line
00:30 jojoa1997 yeah but where do i type this "minetest --config path/to/your/config/file"
00:30 jojoa1997 oh
00:30 jojoa1997 so it will change the seed if i change the fixed seed
00:30 VanessaE yes
00:31 VanessaE anything you specify in that new config file will be specific to that file, including things like fixed seed, static spawn points, etc.
00:31 VanessaE but bear in mind
00:32 VanessaE anything you change in the main menu will be saved only to that config file
00:32 VanessaE not to your regular minetest/minetest.conf
00:32 jojoa1997 in the main menu?
00:32 VanessaE yeah
00:32 VanessaE for example,
00:33 VanessaE if you create a custom config file, and use --config to point to it, and then let's say you go change the shaders option, that option will only be saved to your new config file, not your default one.
00:33 VanessaE same for anything else that gets saved to the config normally.
00:33 jojoa1997 so feor me it would be
00:35 jojoa1997 /minetest --config C:\Users\<name>\Desktop\minetest\worlds\server\hunger_games_config
00:35 VanessaE something like that I guess
00:35 VanessaE I don't know how windows paths work
00:35 VanessaE but that looks right in the general DOS sense.
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00:42 Kacey herpderp
00:42 * Kacey herpderp
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00:43 Kacey oops sorry
00:43 kaeza lolwut
00:43 Kacey it is quiet...
00:43 marktraceur Kacey: That's no excuse for flooding
00:43 marktraceur Or it will be much quiter for you very quickly
00:44 Kacey i hit the wrong button
00:44 Kacey shift and up are right next to eachother
00:44 marktraceur Mmmmmhm.
00:45 kaeza I don't get it
00:46 Kacey stupid little keys
00:47 Sh1fty what's up with minetest.net?
00:48 Kacey hm?
00:48 Kacey it appears to be down
00:48 Sh1fty that was helpful :D
00:49 * Kacey announces the obvious
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00:52 Kacey i think a flat_mapgen should be in the default game...
00:52 VanessaE there will be one available.
00:53 Kacey is there one yet?
00:53 Kacey or a game mode even?
00:53 kaeza1 why is hexchat so painfully slow on windows?
00:53 VanessaE it'll be a mapgen setting.
00:54 VanessaE it may already be possible now with all the work that was done to mapgen v6 (the existing one)
00:54 kaeza1 and it's ignoreing my /nick commands
00:54 kaeza1 -e
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00:54 VanessaE Kacey: from my server's map_meta.txt file:  http://pastebin.com/7WENHzCh
00:55 VanessaE I expect one or more of those values there could be changed to get the effect you wanted.
00:56 VanessaE hmmmm: what would be change to force a flat map?
00:56 Sh1fty i love the fact that everyone is using github for mods :)
00:57 hmmmm uhh
00:57 hmmmm set the terrain_base and terrain_higher offset and scale to 0
00:57 hmmmm hold on
00:58 hmmmm kacey, add these two lines to minetest.conf (you have to be using a newer version of minetest for this to work)
00:58 hmmmm mgv6_np_terrain_base = 0, 0.0, (200, 200, 200), 12345, 1, 0.6
00:58 hmmmm mgv6_np_terrain_higher = 0, 0.0, (200, 200, 200), 12345, 1, 0.6
00:59 Kacey hang on
00:59 Kacey newer?
00:59 Oblivion1500 can someone tell me redcrabs server ip and port please.. cant seem to be able to get on the forums
00:59 VanessaE hmmmm: I'm curious - could one of those values be why my map got broken?  I didn't add this stuff, it was done for me at some point recently.
00:59 hmmmm you would've needed to use a non-official build of minetest or compile it on your own from the source
00:59 hmmmm vanessa, no, not at all
00:59 VanessaE s/broken/\.\.\.\"altered\"\.\.\./
00:59 VanessaE oh ok
01:00 VanessaE hrm, I still wonder how it happened :-)
01:00 VanessaE not a big deal
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01:01 VanessaE it gives people a reason to use ladders :D
01:01 hmmmm whatever it is, it's not my problem since it was like that at least 2 months ago
01:02 VanessaE no prob.
01:02 Oblivion1500 anyone know redcrabs server?
01:02 VanessaE Oblivion1500: redcrab.suret.net:30401
01:02 VanessaE what about it?
01:02 Oblivion1500 thanks VanessaE
01:06 Kacey brb dinner
01:06 VanessaE asve me some!
01:06 VanessaE save*
01:06 VanessaE :)
01:06 Kacey naw
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01:14 telek So what's the benefits of these new mapgen formats?
01:15 VanessaE I'll let hmmmm field that one :)
01:15 hmmmm formats?
01:15 RobertArkenin I heard a rumor carts were going to be part of the Minetest engine, and would be partially progrssed client-side. Is this true?
01:16 telek hmmmm: Are they just script/API changes?
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01:17 hmmmm well i'm not really sure what you're referring to by formats
01:18 VanessaE perhaps he means to ask, what mapgen v7 offers that v6 does not,
01:20 telek And what v6 offers that whatever the previous versions were didn't?
01:21 hmmmm lots of things, for one it takes a fundamentally different approach to terrain generation
01:22 hmmmm take a look at the way maps look in the 0.3.x versions of minetest if you'd like
01:22 VanessaE http://minetestbb.suret.net/map.0.3.1.20120402.png
01:22 VanessaE an example thereogf.
01:22 VanessaE thereof.
01:23 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map.png
01:23 VanessaE versus 0.4.4
01:24 hmmmm a top-down view doesn't do it justice
01:24 VanessaE (translation: always assume your audience is as lazy as slashdotters are to googling for stuff ;)  )
01:24 hmmmm not trying to sell him anything..
01:24 hmmmm no point
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01:31 Sh1fty do trees regrow now?
01:32 VanessaE it you plant saplings, sure.
01:32 VanessaE if*
01:32 Sh1fty but generated ones don't?
01:32 VanessaE no.
01:32 Kacey back
01:32 VanessaE wb
01:32 Sh1fty btw moretrees and plantlife are awesome
01:32 VanessaE thanks :)
01:33 Sh1fty and i love the new tree system
01:33 Kacey the flat_mapgen failed :(
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01:37 VanessaE hmmmm: whoa, there's something very wrong here.
01:38 Kacey what?
01:38 VanessaE I just created a copy of my server world, deleted the map.sqlite so it could regenerate, signed in and teleported myself to where the spawn should be.  The land surrounding those coords looks nothing like the live map at all
01:38 VanessaE what does this mean?
01:39 Kacey seed is the same?
01:39 VanessaE yes
01:39 hmmmm of course, it looks like whatever map was being newly generated in those weird chunks you were experiencing
01:39 VanessaE hmmmm: right.
01:39 hmmmm that's not really anything wrong
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01:44 VanessaE overview map coming up in a few mins as soon as this other unrelated upload is done.
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01:47 arsdragonfly is the official website down?
01:47 VanessaE yes.
01:47 arsdragonfly i mean minetest.net
01:47 VanessaE forums are up, though.
01:47 arsdragonfly oh
01:48 arsdragonfly thx a lot
01:48 VanessaE forum.minetest.net
01:49 * kaeza wonders if sfan5 can make a script to rewrite all the URLs in posts to point to forum.minetest.net instead of minetest.net/forum/ ...
01:50 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map2.png
01:50 VanessaE there we go.
01:50 VanessaE the yellow dot in the middle of that lake is where the spawn is in the live map.
01:52 arsdragonfly cool
01:52 arsdragonfly so what's the matter about the website?
01:52 VanessaE arsdragonfly: no idea.
01:52 Sh1fty these oaks are really huge
01:52 VanessaE Sh1fty: yep
01:53 Sh1fty i've been cutting one for half an hour now :)
01:53 VanessaE they're supposed to be
01:53 arsdragonfly i wonder if celeron55 has a twitter account or so
01:53 Sh1fty found myself a small island with one huge oak :)
01:53 Sh1fty carving it for a tree house :)
01:53 VanessaE cool :)
01:54 VanessaE and to think, jojoa1997 wants me to make a mod with Home Tree (Avatar)
01:54 VanessaE puhleaze :-)
01:55 Sh1fty i haven't seen any trees with flowers, are there any?
01:55 VanessaE no
01:55 VanessaE but pines, firs, spruces have cones
01:55 VanessaE and of course, there are proper apple trees too
01:55 Sh1fty those are awesome too
01:55 VanessaE try making a new map, but edit init.lua to enable beech trees also :)
01:55 Sh1fty one apple tree gave me a boatload of apples :)
01:56 VanessaE hehe
01:56 marktraceur VanessaE: There are flowery trees in a mod somewhere, I think. Maybe just the vanilla flowers mod.
01:56 VanessaE I might need to reduce how many are made.
01:57 VanessaE marktraceur: Nature Pack adds apple blossoms to default trees.
01:57 VanessaE Sh1fty was talking about moretrees mod specifically though.
01:58 Kacey i have stacked 2 1-bit RAM units semi-successfully
02:01 VanessaE In have to wonder, comparing these two images...  how I would come up with a seed that would at least somewhat resemble my live map
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02:05 VanessaE I guess I could just tell everyone a severe thunderstorm blew through and flooded the spawn ;)
02:06 Kacey heh
02:09 Kacey quite a delay on changing the output...
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02:21 telek hmmmm: Ahh neat. I thought that stuff had been in for a while though.
02:22 telek VanessaE: You also need to start the map with the exact same mods as you started the other map with.
02:22 VanessaE telek: I didn.
02:23 VanessaE er,
02:23 telek I'd never be able to reproduce my current map if I had half the mods I currently have installed working :)
02:23 VanessaE telek: I did.
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02:23 telek Oh very weird then.
02:23 VanessaE in fact it's an exact copy of the whole world folder then from the server, minus player files and the like, running the same mod collection as on the server.
02:24 RealBadAngel hi all
02:25 * telek will have to try that himself when he has some spare time, see how it turns out.
02:25 VanessaE get
02:25 VanessaE hey
02:25 telek Sup RBA?
02:25 RealBadAngel just woke up
02:26 RealBadAngel goin to work soon, but im takin one day off, on friday to get looong weekend for coding
02:28 Kacey it is 19:30 over here
02:28 RealBadAngel VanessaE, just saw your map picture, you can really recognize the type of the tree from above
02:29 Sh1fty 3:30 am here :)
02:29 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yep; I think btw there aren't enough jungletrees.
02:29 RealBadAngel indeed, and too many sequoias
02:29 VanessaE maybe so
02:30 VanessaE of course that's just a tiny sample of that map
02:30 RealBadAngel they were supposed to form sequoia woods, but can be found everywhere
02:30 VanessaE enough to show that someone, somewhere changed how a seed is turned into map data :-)
02:32 RealBadAngel btw some sold me an idea to make underwater trees
02:32 VanessaE oh?
02:32 RealBadAngel will have to try make coral reefs
02:32 VanessaE interesting
02:32 marktraceur RealBadAngel: How much did it cost?
02:32 VanessaE that's something better suited to plants_lib though
02:33 RealBadAngel hehe
02:33 RealBadAngel a lot ;)
02:33 RealBadAngel VanessaE, i was thinkin bout l-system reefs
02:34 VanessaE RealBadAngel: the problem with that idea is making them follow the contours of the seabed.
02:34 RealBadAngel different shapes, colorful, ocean biome
02:34 RealBadAngel we will find a way
02:35 BackupCoder that is an anthem
02:39 Sh1fty i got over 3 stacks of oak leaves from clearing a 3 block high platform :D
02:42 RealBadAngel pick the biggest one you can find, it will give you 3,5k of leaves and 300+ wood
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02:43 Sh1fty that wasn't my goal, i was building a tree house :)
02:44 RealBadAngel i know, just pointed how big they are
02:44 VanessaE and I'm not about to make them smaller, either :)
02:44 VanessaE however, a new leafdecay routine is certainly needed.
02:44 Sh1fty speaking of
02:45 RealBadAngel indeed
02:45 Sh1fty how far does an oak tree need to be from oak leaves?
02:45 VanessaE right now it doesn't matter
02:45 VanessaE leaves don't decay
02:45 VanessaE btw, how many saplings did you get from that big tree?
02:45 Sh1fty oh
02:45 NakedFury leaf decay and no giving you leafs
02:45 Sh1fty no idea
02:46 Sh1fty ~30-40 i think
02:46 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I think that's too many for a big ol' oak tree, no?
02:46 RealBadAngel yeah
02:46 VanessaE current drop rate is 1/20
02:46 VanessaE maybe I should make this about 1/100.
02:46 RealBadAngel cut it at least by half
02:46 Sh1fty 1/100 would be ok
02:46 RealBadAngel ok
02:47 Sh1fty it would take a couple of minutes to get a sapling
02:47 RealBadAngel and users being angry "gimme that fuckin sapling you.... tree!"
02:48 Sh1fty that's how it's supposed to be :)
02:48 Sh1fty when you need one, it's annoying and you get plenty when you don't :D
02:48 VanessaE any other changes?
02:48 VanessaE biomes need a lot of tuning, but I'm too tired to mess with that now.
02:49 RealBadAngel for proper biomes we shall wait for hmmm
02:49 RealBadAngel imho
02:49 Kacey night all
02:49 VanessaE RealBadAngel: well with temperature, land fertility, humidity, elevation, and the other controls in plants_lib, I think we can do fine now :)
02:50 RealBadAngel then we will need to make also new kinds of trees
02:50 RealBadAngel nether biome trees, aether ones
02:50 VanessaE ew.
02:51 Sh1fty do we really need the nether? :D
02:51 RealBadAngel to make use of range 0 to -30000 ?
02:52 RealBadAngel yes
02:52 RealBadAngel same for opposite direction
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02:53 VanessaE there, changed sapling probability, on git.
02:53 RealBadAngel currently it has no real use we could go so far
02:53 Muadtralk ultimate building?
02:53 RealBadAngel and exploring the map means walkin on the surface
02:54 RealBadAngel hi Muadtralk, some new textures will be needed soon
02:54 Sh1fty i just built some tools and torches
02:54 Sh1fty that's enough for tonight :D
02:55 Sh1fty i spent the last hour and a half using nothing but a pickaxe and axe and messing with trees :D
02:55 RealBadAngel Muadtralk, check MV electric furnace, 32x textures for it are already uploaded, code for it will come soon
02:55 Muadtralk hmmmm
02:55 Muadtralk I will
02:56 Muadtralk crap
02:56 Muadtralk he is on
02:56 * Muadtralk removes an m
02:56 RealBadAngel lol
02:56 NekoGloop why doesn't he just call himself hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
02:57 RealBadAngel hmmmm i dont know
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02:57 Sh1fty VanessaE, i think placing/chopping a tree block should turn leaf decay off/on in a certain radius
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02:57 VanessaE maybe
02:58 Sh1fty that would make it almost event based, which is best for cpu usage
02:58 RealBadAngel could be a solution
02:58 Sh1fty i don't see any other option that would use less cpu
02:58 Sh1fty and it would work perfectly
02:58 RealBadAngel in fact its an good idea
03:08 RealBadAngel just found one joke, translated it
03:08 RealBadAngel Doctor, i have very same nightmare every night. Im in Antarctica, there are penguins,
03:08 RealBadAngel lots of them. And they keep coming and coming. And they are pushin me towards the cliffs.
03:08 RealBadAngel Each time i land in a very cold water and drown.
03:08 RealBadAngel Doctor replies: You know, usually we cure such cases in no time, but with you, mr Gates we can have some problems...
03:15 NekoGloop So the Linux penguins are fated to be in Antartica?
03:16 NekoGloop Remind me to not visit.
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03:21 kaeza is there a way to enable shaders while still using full-block water?
03:22 NekoGloop Personally I'd want the exact opposite.
03:22 kaeza let me rephrase that: is there a way to have full-block water with shaders turned on?
03:23 NekoGloop I would want the chopped water without the shaders.
03:26 kaeza the water looks silly sometimes
03:26 kaeza especially when it's under a node
03:26 VanessaE especially when it has waterlilies on it
03:27 kaeza yup
03:29 kaeza or this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_2389664015.jpg
03:30 telek Oh speaking of which.
03:30 telek Waterlillies are re-placable on water?
03:30 telek Erm aren't?
03:31 kaeza BTW is it normal that the game runs considerably faster with shaders on?
03:44 VanessaE telek: no
03:44 VanessaE kaeza: for me, I get lower fps with shaders
03:45 telek Ok, just wanted to make sure :)
03:45 VanessaE I could probably make them do that if someone can tell me how :-)
03:45 telek Kinda bummed me out the first time I ran into it, since I was planning to move a couple to an indoor pool :)
03:45 kaeza VanessaE, 25FPS w/o shaders, ~35 with. O.o
03:46 VanessaE kaeza: for me, ~35 without shaders, 25-30 with.
03:46 VanessaE (256px textures though)
03:46 NekoGloop http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8254/71005118.png Look, trees.
03:53 VanessaE well you got conifers figured out, not what about jungle trees, palms, pine, ...
03:53 VanessaE ;)
03:54 VanessaE now*
03:55 NekoGloop http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5580/19215078.png More trees. More upper layer overlapping like a boss.
03:56 VanessaE hehe
04:00 kaeza NekoGloop, events?
04:00 NekoGloop Damn.
04:00 kaeza or pictures?
04:00 NekoGloop pictures are laggy and bad and you should feel bad.
04:01 kaeza hehe right
04:01 kaeza try doing a custom HUD using pictures
04:01 kaeza :/
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04:24 Sh1fty minecraft trees look really crappy after moretrees :)
04:50 VanessaE thanks :)
04:53 * telek thinks he needs another free day to dig back through all the recently developed mods again.
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05:45 bulletrulz minetest net down?
05:51 VanessaE yes
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05:59 bulletrulz VanessaE: why is it down xD
05:59 VanessaE beats me, ask c55 :)
05:59 bulletrulz nah im not really a c55 guy
06:00 VanessaE at least the forums are still working
06:00 bulletrulz VanessaE: yeah tru can u give me alink to the download page please?
06:00 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
06:00 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game
06:00 bulletrulz VanessaE: the deb?
06:01 VanessaE I don't have a link to that.  I compile.
06:01 VanessaE if you can use a deb, you can compile it too.
06:01 bulletrulz ok i guess ill be doing work today xD
06:02 VanessaE compiling is easy on debian-based systems.
06:02 bulletrulz i kno VanessaE xD
06:02 VanessaE 10-15 mins for a slow system starting with nothing :-)
06:08 bulletrulz VanessaE: what is ur system?
06:08 VanessaE Phenom II X6 1055T (2.6 GHz) w/4GB RAM, 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD, running Ubuntu 12.04.
06:08 VanessaE (well, Xubuntu)
06:11 bulletrulz oh snap thats way better thin mine
06:11 bulletrulz VanessaE: i have a 1 gb 1.6ghz intel processer with lubuntu 12.10
06:12 VanessaE that's still respectable
06:12 bulletrulz oh and a 250 gb hardrive
06:13 VanessaE 500 GB spinning rust here in addition to that OCZ, but it just serves as a media drive, nothing special about it.
06:15 bulletrulz yea lol
06:17 bulletrulz building
06:18 VanessaE I update so often, I wrote a simple script to automate the process :-)
06:20 bulletrulz x
06:20 bulletrulz XD
06:21 bulletrulz i probaly wont update too ofton just wanna play mp u know
06:21 VanessaE sure
06:22 bulletrulz well ill ttyl
06:23 VanessaE bye
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06:50 VanessaE I'm off to bed.  Night all.
06:50 kaeza night
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09:52 DarkDragon490 hello there
09:55 berome hello
09:55 DarkDragon490 can u help me with a problem in minetest?
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09:55 berome perhaps, what is OS and what is problem ?
09:56 berome I'm sure someone else will help you if I can't.
09:56 DarkDragon490 Windows 7, when i try to connect to a server (with no password, first time) it just keeps loading the "connecting to server" page
09:57 ruskie well what server are you connecting to?
09:57 DarkDragon490 24.5.2.67
09:57 DarkDragon490 ecube's
09:57 DarkDragon490 i jsut wanna
09:57 DarkDragon490 i mean
09:58 DarkDragon490 i just wanna try any server
09:58 ruskie and is the port correct?
09:58 DarkDragon490 yes, 30000
09:59 ruskie maybe your firewall is blocking or the server is down
09:59 DarkDragon490 well, do you have a working server's ip so i can try it?
09:59 ruskie check any of the minetest.org
09:59 ruskie http://minetest.org/worlds.html
09:59 berome !up 24.5.2.67 30000
09:59 Minetest-tan 24.5.2.67:30000 seems to be down
09:59 DarkDragon490 oh
10:00 DarkDragon490 ok any working servers?
10:00 ruskie the list is in the URL
10:00 berome !up minetest.org 30015
10:00 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30015 is up (0.291ms)
10:00 berome for example
10:00 DarkDragon490 ok gonna try it
10:00 DarkDragon490 thx
10:01 berome my pleasure, but you won't have interract by default here.
10:01 DarkDragon490 ye it says it doesnt allow empty passwords :/
10:01 ruskie so just put in a password
10:01 berome yes
10:01 ruskie it's whatever you want
10:01 DarkDragon490 k
10:01 ruskie if an account doesn't exist it will be created
10:02 DarkDragon490 waiting content.. i think its gonna work thx :)
10:02 DarkDragon490 so it was just that the servers i tried were off?
10:03 ruskie probably
10:03 berome I think that, for now :-
10:04 DarkDragon490 thank you :)
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10:27 mitori good day
10:28 mitori is
10:28 mitori there anyone?
10:30 berome hello mitori :-) anyone for ...?
10:33 berome mitori: do you need some help with minetest ?
10:39 OldCoder Hi
10:39 berome hi OldCoder :-)
10:39 OldCoder :-)
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10:48 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:48 OldCoder Hi
11:02 kaeza PilzAdam, it seems there's a bug in beds. For some reason, it thinks I'm always in bed (i.e. says "Good Night" and there's no night).
11:03 kaeza not sure how to reproduce
11:03 PilzAdam its recommended to go out of the bed by rightclicking it
11:04 kaeza ah ok
11:15 kaeza Minetest in Spanish: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-01-31%2008%3A11%3A57.jpg
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11:33 kaeza PilzAdam, are your win32 builds compiled with ENABLE_GETTEXT?
11:33 PilzAdam im currently working on it
11:33 kaeza ah ok. sorry
11:37 Exio nice kaeza!
11:37 kaeza hm?
11:37 Exio the mt in spanish :P
11:37 kaeza ah :P
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11:45 mitori hi
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12:05 PilzAdam kaeza, test build was succesfull, win32 gettext build will be here soon
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12:06 kaeza PilzAdam, great! thanks!
12:06 kaeza ^_^
12:07 PilzAdam do you use windows?
12:08 kaeza It's for a friend that wants to play in spanish
12:09 kaeza I use Ubuntu
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12:11 PilzAdam kaeza, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=67370
12:11 PilzAdam but I dunno how to set the $LANG variable correctly
12:11 kaeza hmm
12:11 PilzAdam the build works in wine
12:11 kaeza have been googling about that
12:12 kaeza it seems you need to set LC_ALL
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12:13 kaeza testing...
12:15 PilzAdam seems like it reads the system language
12:15 PilzAdam (http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/install.html)
12:15 PilzAdam but you can also set LANG and LANGUAGE
12:18 PilzAdam bbl
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12:29 whirm kaeza: is your friend's ubuntu in spanish?
12:29 kaeza he uses Windows
12:30 kaeza why?
12:32 whirm ah, sorry I understood it the other way around :D
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12:34 whirm I think for windows you have to go to my computer > right click > properties > advanced tab > environment variables
12:34 kaeza yes, I already pointed him to that one
12:34 kaeza LANG=es
12:35 kaeza by any chance, do you speak spanish?
12:42 PilzAdam kaeza, does it work?
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12:43 kaeza PilzAdam, apparently he got it to work
12:43 kaeza I'm still struggling to make it work on wine
12:44 kaeza he says that the LANG variable is not needed and actually caused conflicts
12:44 PilzAdam wine reads LANG, I guess
12:44 PilzAdam has he changed something? would be nice if he posts it in the forum topic
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12:49 kaeza PilzAdam, he says he didn't change anything
12:49 kaeza it worked out of the box
12:49 PilzAdam good
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13:28 mitori berome
13:30 berome yes ?
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13:31 berome mitori ?
13:31 mitori you were ready to help me, weren't you?
13:31 berome sure ; at least I will try :-)
13:31 mitori i've got this problem
13:32 mitori i cant get the node to emit light
13:33 berome ok
13:33 berome wait
13:34 berome in minetest .register_node ,
13:34 berome did you put correctly
13:35 berome light_source = something
13:35 mitori light_source = LIGHT_MAX,
13:35 berome light_source = LIGHT_MAX - 1, for lava, for example ?
13:36 PilzAdam if you use LIGHT_MAX you have to depend on default
13:36 berome I think it needs a number after
13:36 mitori the thing is
13:36 mitori it all worked
13:36 mitori until the builds which were built after 20th of January
13:39 mitori oh well.
13:39 mitori it works now
13:39 mitori thank you
13:39 mitori the depends thing wasn't there
13:39 berome :-)
13:40 PilzAdam use 14 instead of LIGHT_MAX, so you dont have to depend on default
13:46 mitori yeah. true.
13:47 mitori is there any way to recacultate the light?
13:48 PilzAdam the light in a block is recalculated if a block with ligh_source != 0 is changed (i.e. placed, digged)
13:49 PilzAdam *second block = node
13:49 mitori no
13:49 mitori the thing is
13:49 mitori i have a region (about 5 blocks)
13:49 mitori and it's dark
13:49 mitori being under a sun
13:51 PilzAdam place a torch
13:51 mitori tried that.
13:51 mitori didn't help : (
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13:51 PilzAdam fill the whole region with dirt or something and then dig it away
13:52 kaeza mitori, use the //dig command of worldedit
13:52 mitori ok
13:52 mitori thanks
13:53 kaeza select a block where you think the "fake ceiling" is, and use //dig
13:54 mitori i'll try to do that a bit differently
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14:20 john_minetest Hello. Is the forum down?
14:20 PilzAdam nope
14:20 john_minetest hmmm... strange.
14:21 PilzAdam only minetest.net
14:21 PilzAdam but you can still go to the forum
14:21 berome http://forum.minetest.net/index.php is ok
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14:21 john_minetest Oh, now it works again
14:21 john_minetest I entered minetest.net/forum
14:21 Kacey !up 213.179.58.83 8001
14:21 Minetest-tan 213.179.58.83:8001 seems to be down
14:21 Kacey really? that is freenode
14:22 PilzAdam ummm... it checks for minetest servers
14:22 kaeza !ping 213.179.58.83
14:22 kaeza ?
14:22 Kacey aah'
14:22 Kacey mt servers
14:23 kaeza !ping 127.0.0.1
14:23 kaeza ...
14:23 kaeza no !ping?
14:23 Kacey !up 127.0.0.1
14:23 Minetest-tan 127.0.0.1:30000 is up (0.103ms)
14:23 Kacey !coomands
14:23 Kacey !commands
14:24 Kacey ?
14:24 kaeza </spam>
14:24 Kacey ok
14:24 Kacey <ontopic>
14:27 Kacey youtube is broken for me :/
14:27 john_minetest !up minetest.org 30015
14:27 Minetest-tan minetest.org:30015 is up (0.286ms)
14:27 john_minetest Kacey: Maybe check your flash player. The last update on linux installed gnash. Idk why, but it did.
14:28 john_minetest *If you use Linux
14:28 Exio "on linux"? hm?
14:28 Exio in what distro? :P
14:28 john_minetest Archlinux.
14:29 john_minetest Idk how gnash came on the computer. Maybe it has been there all the time. I once installed it but I thought I deinstalled it after this :)
14:29 Kacey ... i dont have that much time
14:32 Kacey besides it is playing the video but the little buttons dont appear
14:32 kaeza bbl
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16:25 markveidemanis hi
16:27 markveidemanis Python and Lua programmers type /me
16:27 markveidemanis you have to be Lua programmer, not minetest modder
16:27 markveidemanis im making a game:D
16:28 markveidemanis help me think pf a name aswell
16:28 markveidemanis *of
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16:31 rubenwardy hi all
16:31 PilzAdam hey rubenwardy
16:32 * VanessaE types /me and looks in..
16:32 VanessaE hi all
16:32 PilzAdam hey VanessaE
16:32 VanessaE how goes
16:33 * PilzAdam has done a win build with GetText
16:33 VanessaE I saw
16:33 VanessaE what does gettext offer?
16:33 VanessaE (I've heard of it but know almost nothing about it)
16:33 PilzAdam translate minetest
16:33 VanessaE ah
16:37 VanessaE the range is -30927 to +30927 right?
16:39 VanessaE (for the map's coords I mean)
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16:42 PilzAdam its +/- ~31000
16:42 VanessaE oh ok, wasn't sure if that was the real range or not
16:42 ShadowNinja When I make a commit on github the author shows up as unknown, if I go to the commit page it shows my username but it isn't linked to my account, anyone know why?
16:44 Sh1fty RealBadAngel, what's up with realbadangel.pl?
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16:47 marktraceur markveidemanis: This isn't a place for headhunting, please try job boards or places where volunteers look for projects
16:47 marktraceur markveidemanis: http://openhatch.org being one good one
16:47 markveidemanis ok
16:48 markveidemanis Nah, i use github
16:48 marktraceur markveidemanis: Then use that and don't pollute the channel
16:48 markveidemanis 1 more thing
16:49 markveidemanis i need a creative name for a 2D game mixed with 3D
16:49 PilzAdam VanessaE, FAQ added: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65717#p65717
16:49 VanessaE good idea
16:50 VanessaE ..I wonder where it was I got that +/- 30927 from..
16:50 markveidemanis how about "Bazinga" ?
16:51 PilzAdam I wonder if I should drop the "normal" builds
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16:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: no reason to keep them really, everyone has gettext on their systems these days
16:52 marktraceur markveidemanis: How about "off fucking topic"
16:52 markveidemanis ok
16:52 markveidemanis seems fine to me
16:52 * marktraceur is in a bad mood, sorry
16:52 markveidemanis now i need a description
16:52 marktraceur But seriously, ask somewhere else
16:52 sfan5 ^ i agree
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16:53 marktraceur I wonder if I can set the "deaf" flag for other users.
16:54 sfan5 what do you mean?
16:54 thexyz marktraceur: that'd be great
16:54 marktraceur thexyz: Sadly you can't
16:54 thexyz because that's user flag, yeah
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16:55 marktraceur sfan5: There's a flag you can set on yourself, +D, that prevents you from hearing messages
16:55 sfan5 ah, ok
16:55 sfan5 the ircop should be able to set such flags for users
16:55 marktraceur I wonder why they don't let you set that on others. I guess because it would be too mean.
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16:57 markveidemanis i found a name...
16:57 markveidemanis Great repository names are short and memorable. Need inspiration? How about psychic-octo-nemesis.
16:57 markveidemanis lol
16:58 hmmmm aw crap, don't you hate it when you misclick in minetest?  http://i.imgur.com/jOJZd.jpg
16:58 VanessaE hahaha
16:59 Umbron2 super a 2 -.-
16:59 berome :-))
17:00 marktraceur markveidemanis: I'm dead serious, this is not a channel for your inane ramblings about some other game you're writing.
17:00 Umbron2 wow firefox crashed -.-²
17:01 markveidemanis ²?
17:01 VanessaE oh that's a big surprise...not
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17:01 markveidemanis łøł
17:02 * VanessaE pokes rubenwardy
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17:03 rubenwardy hi
17:04 VanessaE PilzAdam, hmmmm: http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/07/17/67/1899993/3/628x471.jpg    See?  I told you that right-click-and-hold autoplace thing was a bad idea. :-)
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17:09 rubenwardy VanessaE, what? How is that relevant?
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17:10 VanessaE rubenwardy: it was a joke. :)
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17:10 VanessaE [01-31 11:58] <hmmmm> aw crap, don't you hate it when you misclick in minetest?  http://i.imgur.com/jOJZd.jpg
17:11 Jordach VanessaE, hmmmm, LOLZ
17:12 VanessaE haha
17:14 PilzAdam can anyone explain me why I get framedrops all the time when I play Minetest in wine?
17:14 Jordach because WINE
17:15 Sh1fty PilzAdam, how much work would it be to convert your mobs mod to 3d?
17:15 PilzAdam not much
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17:16 markveidemanis i need help with github
17:17 Jordach VanessaE, http://imageshack.us/a/img35/2933/screenshot2388373360.png
17:17 Jordach VISIBLE TOOL IN HAND
17:18 VanessaE doubt that
17:18 VanessaE it was probably dropped.
17:19 PilzAdam Minetest is completly unplayable in wie
17:19 PilzAdam *wine
17:20 markveidemanis yop
17:20 Jordach nah shit, i thought it would run on my TV bios
17:23 PilzAdam lol, video_driver = burningsvideo
17:23 PilzAdam everything is red!
17:23 PilzAdam and 7 FPS
17:24 VanessaE red.  shaders.  but you knew that.
17:25 PilzAdam video_driver = software segfaults :-(
17:30 VanessaE wine sucks anyway :-)
17:32 bulletrulz VanessaE: not with everything
17:32 VanessaE Jordach: that said, I wonder what prevents us from having handheld tools?
17:32 Jordach nothing
17:34 * Jordach tests my new audio setup
17:34 markveidemanis my ==> his
17:34 markveidemanis who wants to go on my server to see my new bar and have a beer
17:35 markveidemanis you know...like the 0.3.1 times on gameboom server *sniffle
17:36 thexyz PilzAdam: it was completly playable for me a while ago
17:37 marktraceur markveidemanis: What's wrong with GitHub?
17:37 markveidemanis cant find how to upload
17:37 marktraceur Upload....what?
17:38 berome you mean "fork" or instakk git ?
17:38 berome ohh, nice, *install
17:38 marktraceur markveidemanis: What are you uploading?
17:39 markveidemanis idk.. but there is no button
17:39 marktraceur You don't know what you're uploading? That'll make it difficult to upload.
17:39 rubenwardy you can not upload on the internet
17:39 rubenwardy what os do you have?
17:39 PilzAdam markveidemanis, http://dev.minetest.net/Git
17:40 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/GitHub
17:40 rubenwardy If you have windows, they is a GUI version (graphical user interface)
17:42 markveidemanis also...i have a mod request
17:42 markveidemanis not much of a mod but an admin tool
17:42 markveidemanis to stop world render globally
17:42 markveidemanis or to unload the whole world
17:42 rubenwardy ?
17:42 markveidemanis to stop lagg on servers
17:43 rubenwardy would not really help
17:43 rubenwardy kicking players out would be more effective
17:43 rubenwardy unless,
17:43 rubenwardy you mean something that deletes unchanged from mapgen areas
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17:43 markveidemanis like a disable camera update but global
17:44 rubenwardy no need. camera update is local
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17:51 markveidemanis how do i take out of a chest in pipeworks?
17:52 markveidemanis right, im starting my other server (take cover!)
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17:55 markveidemanis markmt.strangled.net
17:55 markveidemanis help with pipeworks
17:56 markveidemanis VanessaE
17:56 markveidemanis help with pipeworks
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18:24 bulletrulz cm  Punk
18:25 marktraceur bulletrulz: What?
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18:35 Umbron hi
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18:37 marktraceur Umbron: Hi! What's up?
18:38 Umbron so so you?
18:40 marktraceur I'm just workin'. What brings you to #minetest?
18:44 OldCoder ATTN: I am shutting down my worlds for backup
18:46 john_minetest okay
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18:59 babyface1031 i have a question what should i do about the game not alowing night it will just give me a message of Good Night! and switch back to day i thought i remembered this happening back when we used 0.4.3 but i cant remember when it happen and what had to be done to fix it
19:00 PilzAdam seems like the beds mod thinks that you are in a bad
19:00 PilzAdam *bed
19:01 PilzAdam its recommended to leave the bed by rightclicking (or leftclick if you use an old version) to prevent such bugs
19:01 babyface1031 thats what i was thinking cause it wont do it if 2 ppl are on
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19:02 artur99 hi
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19:02 babyface1031 hi artur99
19:03 rotor114 why can't I connect minetest.org 30015?
19:04 artur99 i cant connect either 30010 or 30004
19:04 babyface1031 server down for back ups
19:04 babyface1031 [13:44] <OldCoder> ATTN: I am shutting down my worlds for backup
19:04 rotor114 ok
19:05 artur99 how much time will take this?
19:05 artur99 and why the worlds need backup?
19:06 babyface1031 i dont know how long it will take but they are backed up for saftey just so if the worse happens adn the world crashes not everything will be gone
19:06 OldCoder artur99, the worlds need backup to be safe :-)
19:07 OldCoder and it is done now
19:07 OldCoder I am restarting shortly
19:07 artur99 ok
19:07 rotor114
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19:08 OldCoder Penguin_, hi
19:08 rotor114 hi
19:08 OldCoder rotor114, hello
19:08 Penguin_ hi oldcoder
19:09 OldCoder ATTN: Worlds are restarted! Backups are made.
19:09 OldCoder artur99, ^
19:09 rotor114 I can connect to 10015
19:09 rotor114 30015
19:09 OldCoder Does it work for you?
19:09 Penguin_ Octu teams channel ?
19:09 OldCoder 30004
19:09 babyface1031 it works now
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19:11 Sh1fty OldCoder, you could try using this: http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/redisfs/
19:11 webdesigner97 hi. is minetest.net down? I can't access it :/
19:11 rotor114 the forum not
19:11 rotor114 only the main site
19:11 webdesigner97 ok
19:11 webdesigner97 thx
19:12 Sh1fty redis has copy-on-write forking for backups, so this shouldn't take a lot of ram and i guess you wouldn't have to stop the server to back everything up
19:12 rotor114 it lags
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19:13 rotor114 It's not easy to dig at minetest.org
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19:22 rotor114 there's a new person at Zegaton
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19:33 VanessaE markveidemanis: you asked about pipeworks.  Use a "filter" to push items from a chest into a tube.  either punch it or send mesecons signals to it.
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19:38 john_minetest Hmmm... I can't connect to ftp://mesecons.net
19:41 PilzAdam bye
19:46 john_minetest It won't work :(
19:46 VanessaE sowwy
19:46 VanessaE but then, the main domain is down anyway
19:49 john_minetest Strange stuff is going on.
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19:55 harrison i just clone the git repo. now i must compile. strangely i seem not to have "cmake"
19:56 VanessaE should be fairly trivial to obtain :-)
19:56 Taoki http://25.media.tumblr.com/142251408fc0a2446612ef96e7cffbe7/tumblr_mhhkzdIv621qhnszoo1_400.gif Coolest thing I seen in some time
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19:57 harrison here is the odd thing: apt-get says that "This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
19:57 harrison is only available from another source"
19:57 VanessaE Taoki: ow.
19:57 VanessaE you just made my eyes hurt. :)
19:57 Taoki :P
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19:57 harrison Old concept, glossy new instantiation
19:58 VanessaE that'll fuck your your head though.
19:58 harrison oh, we KNEW recursion back in the day
19:59 harrison and we oldtimers LIKED it
19:59 harrison it was all we knew
19:59 VanessaE heh
19:59 VanessaE which explains why you old farts are stuck in the past :-)
20:00 harrison strange then that the future of graphics tech is not flowing from YOUR keyboard "VanessaE"
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20:00 VanessaE heh
20:00 marktraceur harrison: You understood recursion because it interested you, and it interested you because you understood it.
20:00 VanessaE please.  I'm an old bat also :-0
20:00 VanessaE you want the latest in graphics tech, look to the teenagers of this era.
20:01 harrison Sorry, no.
20:01 harrison There was a strong hidden claim in my snarky comment above.
20:01 harrison (implied)
20:01 VanessaE (besides, in the MT community, I'd like to think I've already been doing that :-) )
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20:02 harrison MT is headed in the direction provided by your guidance?
20:02 VanessaE nope.
20:02 VanessaE not really.
20:02 harrison Or rather, you ar MT headed?
20:02 VanessaE no one actually gives a shit about what I do except for a few people
20:03 VanessaE :P
20:03 harrison Compared to me, you pander to the plebes then.
20:04 harrison Oh, Ihave a channel here on teh freenodes and I would be delighted if you would join it and insult me at yeur leisue
20:04 harrison #spasim
20:04 harrison we have a strict allops policy
20:05 john_minetest You can see the cookie all the time. http://25.media.tumblr.com/142251408fc0a2446612ef96e7cffbe7/tumblr_mhhkzdIv621qhnszoo1_400.gif
20:05 harrison your leisure
20:06 john_minetest And at some point in time there are 2 cookies visible. And, yes, I am hungry.
20:06 Jordach biscuits in my presense please
20:06 harrison THERE IS ONLY ONE COOKIE
20:06 Jordach (i hate US ENGLISH)
20:06 Jordach 'tis not English
20:06 harrison or a countably infinite number of cookies
20:07 * Jordach eats the /gif to eat endless cookies
20:07 john_minetest harrison: If you look close, you can see the "huge" cookie and the "small" cookie at the same time.
20:07 harrison You are trying to aggravate me.
20:07 john_minetest /gif me teh coffee plz
20:07 harrison Obviously they are the SAME COOKIE
20:08 harrison ar across the pond they would say "bilocated biscuit"
20:08 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net, best thing to happen to minetest
20:08 Jordach even though minetest.net is down, the forums are not!
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20:09 harrison forums are but a pale evocation of the full glory that is irc
20:12 marktraceur As The Streets says, "The differences in language are just the bits you got wrong, 'cause we were the ones who invented the language"
20:12 marktraceur (that's my favourite rap quote ever)
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20:14 harrison cisoun hlo
20:14 VanessaE bbl
20:14 harrison remember when we were trapped underground ?
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20:17 cisoun sup'
20:18 * marktraceur imagines harrison and cisoun saying "We're going to pull a Panama!"
20:18 marktraceur Jordach would be in the background saying "No! NO PANAMA!"
20:18 cisoun harrison: hell yeah
20:18 cisoun long time ago
20:18 harrison for a youngster such as yourself time seems longer....
20:18 harrison for me, it was fairly recent
20:19 cisoun haha
20:19 Jordach marktraceur, ha
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20:25 harrison cisoun my latest 4 films: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNuIgg2cySo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaE2_pnoQ4  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd91KZyptlQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbLyYl4YSRA
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20:31 OldCoder Hi
20:31 cisoun harrison: nice reverb man !
20:31 cisoun glad you're still working on this ! 8)
20:31 * OldCoder must go to San Jose again today. If anybody wishes changes please present a list this evening
20:31 harrison oh cisoun you have no idea how obsessed i am
20:32 cisoun that's good to have a passion !
20:32 harrison if i cannot code i froth at the mouth and must be sedated
20:32 cisoun harrison: which application it is on the 4th video ?
20:32 harrison you mean reverb on the first one, "downloading.."?
20:33 cisoun yeup
20:33 harrison 4th video is http://code.google.com/p/reaction-diffusion/
20:34 harrison you have a multicore box right?
20:34 harrison i7 or such?
20:34 harrison linux?
20:34 cisoun yes
20:34 harrison like all the popular kids do?
20:34 cisoun rofl
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20:35 harrison http://code.google.com/p/xenoxolotl-spasim/source/checkout
20:35 harrison grab that if you would be so kind
20:35 cisoun I don't have the time right now :(
20:35 mauvebic http://ompldr.org/vaGFzdg/simpleinv-1.zip <- for of unified inventory for creative/more default look
20:35 cisoun I have some math exams next week.
20:35 Jordach cisoun, nice
20:35 cisoun FOURIER SERIES/TRANSFORM BITCHEEZ
20:36 harrison i didn't say we have to do anything
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20:36 harrison just clone it so we can use it later
20:36 harrison it's fairly large
20:36 harrison at most i would ask you to run a single command and find out what error it gives
20:38 cisoun aw sorry man, not this evening, I really have to work
20:38 cisoun by the way, i'm out for a while
20:43 john_minetest cisoun: Isn't FOURIER this sound frequency extraction?
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20:48 john_minetest Oh, spectroscopy stuff...
20:51 cisoun kinda. worst nightmare for engineering students.
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20:54 RealBadAngel hi all
20:55 nickroseville hello all, just downloaded minetest and am having prolbems connecting to a server, getting an error about my client isnt supported. i'm on win7 and have the version off the website, 0.4.1
20:55 sapier1 nickroseville: most likely you're trying to connect to a development server
20:56 nickroseville minetest.cloud.tilaa.org is tyhe last server i was trying to connect to
20:57 sapier I don't know what version this server is using
20:58 nickroseville server's protocol_version is 13...15 clients protocol_version is 11...11 is the exact error from the terminal window
20:59 harrison woohoo i have just built minetest
20:59 harrison first time in over a year prolly
20:59 harrison i do hope the rat is still there
21:00 sapier nope
21:00 sapier no rats
21:00 sapier except you're using mobf
21:00 harrison do you remember it?
21:00 harrison it was 2d
21:00 harrison and it wandered around
21:00 sapier now it's 3d
21:01 harrison what server should i see first?
21:01 sapier if you like mobs try one of oldcoders
21:01 john_minetest nickroseville: Download a newer version.
21:01 nickroseville so is there a 044 version of minetest for windows 7?
21:01 sapier but rats are rare
21:01 nickroseville the download link on the website downliads 0.4.1
21:01 nickroseville i dont see where to get a diffrent version
21:01 harrison can you phrase your answer in the form of a address/port?
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21:02 Jordach nickroseville, try READING
21:02 sapier oops didn't read this previous ... you should try to get 0.4.4-d1
21:02 john_minetest nickroseville: yes, but the site is down atm
21:02 nickroseville i HAVE. i am USING THE minetest website's download link... which is 0.4.1
21:02 sapier harrison sorry I can't
21:02 john_minetest Jordach: The version on MINETEST.COM (which is up) is 0.4.1
21:02 nickroseville i'm tryi9ng to get an answerr here, not be treated line an all
21:02 nickroseville like an ass
21:02 john_minetest nickroseville: The download site for the newest version is down
21:03 Jordach nickroseville, minetest.com is OUT OF DATE and NOT UPDATED
21:03 Jordach https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.4-win32.zip
21:03 nickroseville ok. then what server can i connect to and stuff? and what is the up to date site
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21:03 Jordach minetest.net
21:03 Jordach and forum.minetest.net since the forums are 10% up now
21:03 john_minetest Jordach: minetest.net is down.
21:03 sapier jordach who is responsible for minetest.com can someone replace it by a redirect to minetest.net or at least a outdated notification?
21:03 Jordach john_minetest, yes i know
21:03 Jordach sapier, dunno
21:07 Sh1fty minetest.net should be hosted somewhere else
21:07 Sh1fty it looks like it's hosted on someone's home server
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21:17 bulletrulz is minetest net up yet?
21:19 RealBadAngel seems to be down
21:19 RealBadAngel Sh1fty, my domain should return in a few days
21:19 Sh1fty RealBadAngel, serious problems?
21:19 RealBadAngel i just paid bill i should paid last month, but forgot to ;)
21:21 RealBadAngel i will call operator tommorow and ask when it will be accesible again
21:21 bulletrulz xD
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21:24 bulletrulz time to get half life :D
21:27 bulletrulz 50 mbs done :D 150 to go :D
21:28 marktraceur bulletrulz: This isn't #halflife
21:29 bulletrulz marktraceur: i know but i like sharing xD
21:30 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: hows bedrock going?
21:31 RealBadAngel two nerds talkig: come to me today, there will be a party, music, beer and chicks. -Cool! how many chicks? -8gB!
21:31 john_minetest half-life is the time that is needed until half of a radioactive material decayed.
21:31 bulletrulz lol no its a game
21:31 bulletrulz xD
21:31 john_minetest I know.
21:31 RealBadAngel bulletrulz, bedrock?
21:32 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: BEDROCK OS?
21:32 RealBadAngel im not quite sure what are you talkin about ;)
21:33 dimeshake bedrock linux looks cool, but i've no reason to try it
21:33 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: bedrock linux?
21:33 RealBadAngel im using bedrock solid one, but its debian squeeze ;)
21:34 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: so u an run rpms on it also right?
21:34 RealBadAngel rpm stuff is redhat
21:34 RealBadAngel debian is deb package format
21:35 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: i know but isint bedrock linux able to run that or just arch linux
21:35 dimeshake RealBadAngel: bedrock linux is a system that allows several distros to be installed side by side, using packages from any of them on a single amalgamated platform
21:35 dimeshake hence his questions about being able to use RPM on your system as well
21:36 RealBadAngel that may be good for newbies. i do prefer to compile from source
21:37 RealBadAngel thus i dont need such bedrock
21:37 RealBadAngel even multiboot is gone. windows been dismissed
21:38 dimeshake eh, it's certainly not noobie friendly.  it's just a different approach
21:38 RealBadAngel propably yes, but i really dont need it
21:39 RealBadAngel one and only thing i miss now is flex builder, but i guess i shall read more bout eclipse
21:40 john_minetest Why would you want to use several distro at the same time?
21:41 dimeshake http://bedrocklinux.org/
21:41 dimeshake read their intro
21:42 dimeshake i'm not saying it's good, or anyone should use it, it's just interesting
21:42 dimeshake abuse of chroots :)
21:42 RealBadAngel better is always an enemy of good
21:43 RealBadAngel so i think with such ideas one can expect lotsa BSOD's in linux manner ;)
21:44 RealBadAngel http://media02.hongkiat.com/bsod/bluewindow.jpg
21:45 john_minetest bedrock may be nice for others. My Distro fits for me.
21:45 Sh1fty i can't imagine a situation in which you'd want to run that
21:46 john_minetest Maybe if you are too noob to run Gentoo but want to compile packages with portage. Ubuntu+Gentoo... Okay, that doesn't make any sense but... who cares? :D
21:46 RealBadAngel me neither
21:46 Sh1fty with lxc and kvm, you have all your needs covered
21:47 john_minetest There are over 100 Distros. There MUST be one that fits one's needs.
21:47 RealBadAngel i got my own, squeeze
21:47 RealBadAngel last rebooted mid december
21:47 RealBadAngel when i added new soundcard
21:48 Sh1fty i turn my desktop off every night :)
21:49 john_minetest 295 Distros on distrowatch. I use Archlinux but I also like other distros. Except Ubuntu, it is too... windows-click-color-blink-like for my taste.
21:49 Sh1fty i have arch on all boxes at home and squeeze at work
21:49 RealBadAngel you know when electric stuff get broken at most?
21:49 Sh1fty yeah
21:49 RealBadAngel when you turn it on and off
21:49 dimeshake http://lwn.net/Articles/515709/
21:49 Sh1fty but computers are designed for it
21:49 Sh1fty only servers are designed to run 24/7
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21:50 RealBadAngel sure it sleeps sometimes, turns off hdd etc
21:50 RealBadAngel but since 3 yrs wasnt really turned off
21:50 john_minetest "But where does that leave the poor user who is unable to decide between the virtues [...] Bedrock Linux are trying to change — but the result is unlikely to be suitable for everybody.
21:50 RealBadAngel just when i was adding somethin to the hardware
21:51 RealBadAngel john_minetest, indeed
21:51 Sh1fty i usually buy a new desktop every 3-5 years
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21:52 RealBadAngel i also need to buy new one
21:52 RealBadAngel maybe this summer
21:52 Sh1fty last time my motherboard burned down :D
21:52 RealBadAngel im talkin summer because that time i dont have to buy coal lol
21:52 RealBadAngel so i got more spare money ;)
21:53 Sh1fty :D
21:53 Sh1fty for your furnace? :D
21:53 RealBadAngel lol kind of
21:53 RealBadAngel its fuckin winter there now
21:53 RealBadAngel and coal is not so cheap
21:54 Sh1fty geothermal heating ftw
21:55 Sh1fty as long as you have electricity :D
21:55 Sh1fty real world needs redstone engines :)
21:55 RealBadAngel sure, i will start to dig holes all around to find a source
21:55 john_minetest I put Uranium into my pillow. It will heat for a few million years.
21:55 Sh1fty no source, you just plant some pipes
21:56 RealBadAngel sorry sir, got an idea, can i dig over your house?
21:56 Sh1fty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_heat_pump#Horizontal
21:56 Sh1fty next to it
21:56 Sh1fty friends of mine have that set up
21:56 Sh1fty heating in the winter costs them <$100 a month
21:57 Sh1fty decent insulation is also important
21:57 RealBadAngel shit, you had to remind me :P
21:57 Sh1fty :D
21:57 Sh1fty of what?
21:57 RealBadAngel insulation
21:57 RealBadAngel i need to make it this year
21:58 RealBadAngel have new windows already
21:58 Sh1fty you're in germany?
21:58 RealBadAngel poland
21:58 Sh1fty your country is in the news today :D
21:58 RealBadAngel oh rly? what for?
21:59 Sh1fty EU funds
21:59 RealBadAngel we want to pay more or get more? ;)
22:00 Sh1fty neither, you were supposed to get more, but didn't :D
22:00 RealBadAngel oh those bastards
22:00 RealBadAngel i knew it
22:00 john_minetest No comment: https://www.orau.org/PTP/collection/quackcures/standardradium.jpg
22:00 Sh1fty hehe
22:01 Sh1fty we should have those in minetest
22:01 Sh1fty with 0.00001% chance of giving you ability to fly :D
22:01 RealBadAngel btw
22:01 RealBadAngel Sh1fty, john_minetest how old are you?
22:01 Sh1fty 23 i think
22:01 john_minetest 17
22:01 Sh1fty i always forget
22:01 RealBadAngel lol
22:02 Sh1fty yup
22:02 RealBadAngel so you both propably wont get it but i will try
22:02 Sh1fty last.fm says i'm 23 and i believe it :)
22:02 RealBadAngel (im 40 btw)
22:02 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU
22:05 marktraceur Heh.
22:05 Sh1fty hehe
22:05 Sh1fty i'm not that young :)
22:06 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I have sort of the opposite feeling. I'm sad that shooters aren't more realistic more often.
22:06 marktraceur Hostile Intent....I miss you so much....
22:07 john_minetest I don't like most shooters. I like games with a good story.
22:07 Sh1fty i loved cs 1.6 :)
22:07 RealBadAngel is Heroes Of Might And Magic III any good for ya?
22:08 john_minetest Everyone is crying because of CS. "It is a killer game and it is evil!". Then I saw a youtube video, saw the graphics and... lol.
22:09 john_minetest Wolfenstein3d-level.
22:09 marktraceur john_minetest: Who is crying? And why?
22:09 john_minetest marktraceur: The politics in germany.
22:09 marktraceur Ah.
22:09 marktraceur That much, I think, I can understand
22:09 marktraceur German politics is fraught with concern about military power.
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22:10 john_minetest Only CS is mentioned. BF3, COD, MOH, OPFDR- Games with much more realism. But only CS. It is always CS.
22:11 marktraceur Yeah, COD is realistic. Pff.
22:11 marktraceur (I don't know the others well enough to scoff, but I suspect I would)
22:11 Sh1fty john_minetest, that's because i didn't play the other ones
22:12 Sh1fty actually, i did play first cod and moh, but they were crappy
22:12 Sh1fty i liked bf vietnam :)
22:12 Sh1fty music was great, maps were big and you had choppers :)
22:12 john_minetest MOH has got a crappy story. A few minutes. wow.
22:12 * marktraceur considers whether it would be easy to do an H/I-like mod for a free shooter. Probably not.
22:12 john_minetest I only played MOH and OPFDR but my brother has got COD and BF3.
22:22 RealBadAngel anybody here remember UT2?
22:22 marktraceur Yeeeees.
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22:22 RealBadAngel i was a sniper in my clan
22:22 RealBadAngel THAT was gaming
22:22 Sh1fty finally done with work, time for minetest :)
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22:24 RealBadAngel not to mention some older games
22:24 RealBadAngel like Duke Nukem 3D, Warcraft 2
22:25 RealBadAngel they do have INCREDIBLE playability
22:25 RealBadAngel from time to time we gather and make whole night session of warcraft II
22:26 RealBadAngel fuck the WOW
22:26 RealBadAngel it doesnt have same feelin
22:26 marktraceur Well duh, it's an MMORPG.
22:26 RealBadAngel thus fucked up
22:26 marktraceur Naw, just not the same
22:27 RealBadAngel they have chosen a direction
22:27 marktraceur I mean, it's fucked up for other reasons, but ain't nobody cares.
22:27 RealBadAngel nothin like 6hrs long duel 1vs1 human vs orcs
22:27 Sh1fty warcraft 3 was where it went wrong :D
22:27 RealBadAngel until last mine is emptu
22:28 RealBadAngel empty
22:28 Sh1fty i wasted a lot of hours on warcraft 2
22:29 RealBadAngel idk if you folks are aware of it
22:29 RealBadAngel but those games have been remade
22:29 RealBadAngel duke, wc2 and others
22:29 RealBadAngel by community
22:30 Sh1fty one of my favourite new games is hitman: sniper challenge
22:30 Sh1fty too bad they didn't make a whole game out of it
22:30 * marktraceur is happy with Minetest and some other small distraction games :)
22:31 marktraceur FLARE, too. That's been fun to watch.
22:31 bulletrulz I am AWESOME JK
22:31 bulletrulz im stupid
22:32 bulletrulz lol trolololol
22:32 RealBadAngel example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm3gAacXJso
22:33 marktraceur bulletrulz: What the hell?
22:34 RealBadAngel http://wargus.sourceforge.net/index.shtml
22:34 RealBadAngel its possible to play WC2 in HD
22:36 bulletrulz whats i good server?
22:41 marktraceur bulletrulz: Look at the list. http://servers.minetest.ru/
22:46 RealBadAngel or http://minetest.org/worlds.html
22:48 Sh1fty what are hardware reqs for minetest servers?
22:48 marktraceur Sh1fty: A CPU, some memory, and hopefully a network connection.
22:48 marktraceur Storage helps
22:48 Sh1fty hahaha
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22:59 RealBadAngel even Raspberry PI can handle MT server
23:00 RealBadAngel http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1903
23:00 marktraceur Why did you capitalize PI?
23:00 RealBadAngel because its called so
23:00 marktraceur Uh, no, it's not
23:01 RealBadAngel maybe Pi
23:01 RealBadAngel ok :P
23:02 marktraceur Just like when people say "LUA". It's Lua.
23:02 RealBadAngel sure
23:02 Sh1fty how many users can it run?
23:03 RealBadAngel but you know what "pedantic" means? ;)
23:03 Sh1fty i was thinking of running a small server for maybe a couple of friends on an atom box
23:03 RealBadAngel try Pi
23:03 RealBadAngel its cheap
23:03 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Yeah, it's an adjective for "good at crushing small hive insects with feet"
23:03 Sh1fty don't have a pi, but i do have an atom box in a DC :)
23:03 RealBadAngel lol
23:04 RealBadAngel Pi is an creditd card sized computer
23:10 RealBadAngel fully functional, 512mb of ram, network, usb, hardware video encoder, card slot
23:10 RealBadAngel can run linux on it
23:10 RealBadAngel thus server too
23:10 RealBadAngel costs circa 40$
23:10 john_minetest The bad thing is, that it only has got HDMI.
23:10 RealBadAngel bad?
23:10 RealBadAngel goooood
23:10 john_minetest Yeah. But for my monitor it would need an adapter.
23:10 RealBadAngel you got wrong monitor then ;)
23:10 berome still pre-order or production is ok now ?
23:10 RealBadAngel i do have 2pcs here
23:10 RealBadAngel arrived last week
23:10 berome yes but I mean I discover it today, can I have one in five days ?
23:10 RealBadAngel i want to put one into the keyboard chasis
23:10 john_minetest If there was a screen with 7'' and HDMI, I would buy it. It doesn't have to be HD, only the cable so I can combine a mini-PC with an appropiate screen.
23:10 RealBadAngel to make internet surfing unit
23:10 RealBadAngel when i will be using this main box shall remain shut
23:10 john_minetest Anyone saw the Hackberry? It is faster than the Pi and only 65$.
23:10 RealBadAngel if Pi is able to run quake 3 and xbmc its fast enough
23:10 berome RealBadAngel: you gaot two last week, but odered long ago ?
23:10 RealBadAngel waited circa 1,5 month
23:10 berome hmm, ok, thanks.
23:10 RealBadAngel but shit it was worth waitin like hell
23:10 bulletrulz RealBadAngel: u got pi?
23:10 berome sure !
23:10 berome two
23:10 RealBadAngel i got 2
23:10 harrison_ Is "Is it a meme?" a meme?
23:11 RealBadAngel i have even an idea for a business
23:11 john_minetest Hackberry A10:   https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board
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23:11 RealBadAngel build in Pi in a keyboard case
23:12 RealBadAngel and sell it together with a power supply
23:12 RealBadAngel this plus a monitor will make fully functional internet computer
23:12 john_minetest http://image02.bizrate-images.com/resize?sq=160&amp;uid=4606429733
23:13 marktraceur var isIt = function ( str ) { return 'Is "' + isIt( str ) + '" a meme?'; }; console.log( isIt( 'Is it a meme?' ) );
23:14 RealBadAngel 40 for PI, like 15$ for keys and supply, plus around 20$ for me would make 75$ ready to play system
23:14 RealBadAngel thats fuckin cheap
23:15 john_minetest string meme; std::cin>>meme; std::cout<<"Is"<<meme<<"a meme?\n Is it a meme?"<<std::endl;
23:17 john_minetest A single-board computer would be the perfect replacement for tablet, smartphone and similar, but there are no screens in smartphone-size featuring HDMI-connectors.
23:18 berome yes, price/ watt consomation/power ratio is the feature, in fact
23:18 berome because you can find "client léger" for free, a lot more powerfull, but not working on 5V
23:20 berome "client léger"is thin client
23:20 RealBadAngel is github down?
23:20 john_minetest Is USB capable of giving screen output? Github is up.
23:21 john_minetest USB+special stuff= USB to screen
23:22 john_minetest hmmm... gtg.
23:22 john_minetest bye
23:23 RealBadAngel http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/RaspberryPi.jpg/300px-RaspberryPi.jpg
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23:31 VanessaE hi all
23:31 * VanessaE is back.
23:31 VanessaE (yay.)
23:34 Sh1fty wb
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23:35 Kacey hi guys
23:35 Kacey and gals
23:36 Kacey Nickserv appears to be down...
23:36 Kacey brbr
23:36 Kacey brb
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23:37 Kacey hello anyone on?
23:38 Sh1fty is there any mobs mod that uses gambit's models?
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23:39 Kacey aah much better
23:40 Kacey hi all
23:49 bulletrulz hi Kacey
23:56 * Kacey wants to work on mesecons projects but cant
23:58 marktraceur Kacey: Define "can't".

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