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00:00 kaeza VanessaE: core::position2d<s32> pos_to(0,0);
00:00 kaeza WTF??
00:00 davidpace_ Alright, please try connecting again. Port:30000 Address: 71.57.8.234 0.4.4 latest
00:00 kaeza I mean, why don't just POINT2D pos = { 0, 0 };
00:01 NekoGloop because celeron
00:01 VanessaE davidpace_: DOA.
00:01 davidpace_ DOA?
00:01 VanessaE Dead On Arrival
00:01 VanessaE it don't work :-)
00:01 davidpace_ Alright
00:02 marktraceur kaeza: There's probably other constructor-type things that need to happen.
00:02 davidpace_ Does the protocol for the port forwarding need to be TCP or  UDP?
00:03 davidpace_ Or both?
00:03 kaeza hmmm
00:04 kaeza marktraceur: http://www.softpanorama.org/Lang/Cpp_rama/humor.shtml
00:04 moltenbot kaeza's link: C++ Humor
00:05 kaeza "C++ : Where friends have access to your private members."    â€” Gavin Russell Baker.
00:05 jordan4ibanez Where was that mod that made the craft menu textured?
00:06 VanessaE davidpace_: UDP.
00:06 jordan4ibanez It used textures from a minecraft texture pack
00:06 VanessaE but you may as well forward both
00:06 davidpace_ Okay Thanks VanessaE
00:06 VanessaE sooner or later MT will be using TCP
00:06 OldCoder More reliable
00:07 VanessaE (thexyz's remote media patch notwithstanding)
00:07 OldCoder Separate level
00:07 davidpace_ That may have been the problem, I was forwarding TCP :)
00:07 OldCoder Yep
00:09 kaeza what does the `N' in the `[crackN' transform mean? Crack animation frame?
00:09 VanessaE no idea
00:10 VanessaE davidpace_: try forwarding UDP
00:10 kaeza nvm
00:10 kaeza found it
00:11 davidpace_ I did, I am changing settings, and mods. Before I ask you to try again :).
00:11 davidpace_ Don't try yet.
00:12 NekoGloop ... gloop is hungwy
00:12 NekoGloop feed gloop pwease. :3
00:12 davidpace_ Whenever I try to create a new world in 0.4.4 it keeps freezing up and crashing -_-
00:13 jordan4ibanez does anybody know what i'm talking about? there was a mod that textured the craft menu, and it had a red ribbon on the top
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00:13 NekoGloop yeah
00:13 NekoGloop dunno where it is
00:14 NekoGloop < will work for food
00:14 * Octupus gives NekoGloop a big pot of skittles     TASTE THE RAINBOW!!!!!
00:14 davidpace_ ...
00:14 * NekoGloop throws nyancat at Octupus
00:14 NekoGloop TASTE IT
00:14 Octupus XD
00:14 davidpace_ ...
00:14 * Octupus ouch
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00:15 marktraceur Well, that escalated quickly
00:15 Octupus hi Uberi
00:15 Uberi hey Octupus
00:16 * Uberi is rewriting the ucScript interpreter
00:16 * NekoGloop throws nyancat at Uberi
00:16 * Octupus is trying to make a adventure map the dumbass trees dont wanna grow :l
00:16 * Uberi throws default:nyancat_rainbow at NekoGloop
00:16 * NekoGloop punts a kitten at Uberi
00:16 Uberi Octupus: according to the ABM def it should take around 10 real life minutes
00:16 Octupus :/
00:17 * Uberi throws a spoon at NekoGloop
00:17 Octupus thanks for the info
00:17 Uberi no problem ;)
00:17 * NekoGloop throws FF4 at Uberi
00:17 Octupus :)
00:17 * Uberi throws an exception at NekoGloop
00:17 * Octupus sets a fakeglass under NekoGloop ,and watched him fall to his death
00:17 NekoGloop what, you dont want final fantasy 4? D:
00:18 * Uberi throws an intel integrated graphics chip at NekoGloop
00:18 NekoGloop ow
00:18 NekoGloop you poked me
00:18 Octupus why are we using /me again?
00:18 * NekoGloop again
00:18 * Uberi likes to use /me
00:18 Octupus XD
00:18 * VanessaE tosses NekoGloop an apple
00:19 * NekoGloop tosses NekoGloop an apple
00:19 VanessaE here, golden delicious :)
00:19 * Octupus pokes VanessaE and asks for his SKITTLES
00:19 VanessaE well the laptop's new charger seems to work
00:19 VanessaE SKITTLES!!!!!
00:19 * VanessaE steals all
00:19 * Uberi eats the skittles
00:19 davidpace_ Why is 0.4.4 not loading any of my games???
00:20 Uberi davidpace_: is there an error?
00:20 Uberi if so, what is it?
00:20 VanessaE davidpace_: no idea?  what errors?
00:20 davidpace_ It freezes up when its creating a client
00:20 davidpace_ No errors. Just freezes
00:20 Uberi what's at the end of your debug.txt?
00:20 VanessaE strange; are you using a big texture pack/
00:20 VanessaE ?
00:20 davidpace_ Lemme look.
00:20 Octupus NO MY SKITTLES!!!!!!!!
00:21 * VanessaE gives Octupus a single skittle.
00:21 jordan4ibanez where is the really nice particle mod?
00:21 * Octupus looks at it carefully then pops it in his mouth
00:21 Uberi|Away jordan4ibanez: cornernote's?
00:21 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/tree/master/mods/particles
00:21 moltenbot VanessaE's link: minetest-megapack/mods/particles at master ? cornernote/minetest-megapack ? GitHub
00:21 * Octupus then pulls out another bag of skittles and NOOMS it in Vanessa's FACE
00:22 Octupus :)
00:22 VanessaE nooms?
00:22 davidpace_ This is at the end of the debug.txt:  18:21:17: INFO[main]: SourceImageCache::getOrLoad(): No path found for ""
00:22 VanessaE zoom + nom?
00:22 VanessaE :)
00:22 Octupus like the sound u make
00:22 Octupus while you eat
00:22 Octupus nom nom nom nom
00:22 VanessaE that's "nom" :-)
00:22 Octupus o :)
00:22 jordan4ibanez the boats mod is the best thing ever
00:22 Octupus stupid tree :/
00:23 davidpace_ Anybody know what it means?:  18:21:17: INFO[main]: SourceImageCache::getOrLoad(): No path found for ""
00:23 jordan4ibanez I'm still trying to find that textured craft menu
00:23 VanessaE davidpace_: no clue
00:23 davidpace_ Okay :(
00:23 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: unified inventory I think can do that, or technic inventory
00:24 jordan4ibanez no, there was one that did it to the craft inventory, and it had nice textures, it had a red ribbon at the top
00:25 VanessaE ah yes
00:25 davidpace_ I think my pc just needs to reboot :) brb in 5
00:26 VanessaE jordan4ibanez:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4001
00:26 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Mod] XGUI [0.1][xgui] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
00:26 VanessaE maybe you mean this?
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00:29 Octupus !up
00:29 moltenbot Minetest server !up:!up DOWN
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00:30 Octupus VanessaE, server up?
00:30 VanessaE !up vanessae.mine.bz
00:30 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP
00:30 davidpace Yep! PC Reboot did the trick!
00:30 davidpace No the server is not up yet
00:30 davidpace Oh, sorry I thought you were reffering to me :(
00:30 Octupus its ok :)
00:31 Octupus VanessaE, no more mesecons :(
00:31 VanessaE Octupus: mesecons is installed on my server?
00:31 Octupus i thought u said u removed it
00:31 VanessaE I put it back.
00:31 Octupus OOOO :D
00:32 VanessaE it was only removed for testing and debugging
00:32 Octupus :o
00:32 Octupus I wonder is my creeper still stands
00:32 VanessaE when I last looked, yes
00:32 Octupus i shall check again :D
00:33 VanessaE damn you're fast.
00:33 VanessaE ninja'd on my own server :-)
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00:33 Octupus :D
00:38 davidpace Alright please try once more Addrss: 71.57.8.234 Port: 30000
00:39 davidpace *Address
00:39 davidpace If it doesn't work I'll just stop and continue later
00:39 VanessaE nope, dead.
00:39 davidpace Alright
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00:40 davidpace Alright, cya later guys :)
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00:49 jordan4ibanez we should make the default texture pack faithful pack
00:49 jordan4ibanez include the boat mod, the tnt mod, and mesecons
00:50 jordan4ibanez and have a party
00:53 Uberi I like your style :P
00:53 Uberi but especially mesecons, yes
01:00 VanessaE zzzz
01:01 VanessaE mesecons +100000000
01:01 VanessaE but there is a problem with the idea:
01:01 VanessaE celeron55 is slow to accept changes that don't improve some core function of the engine
01:02 VanessaE my mese changes have been pending for a few days now, and yet they're a definite improvement, if non-core
01:02 Uberi VanessaE: I'm kind of on the edge about the MESE thing, doesn't it break backwards compat?
01:02 VanessaE I'm trying to get them pushed in so that the UFOs mod can use them - after all c55 says mese is sort of an alien artifact, so what better mod to first use them than UFOs
01:02 Uberi neat :P
01:03 VanessaE Uberi: not directly - there's a compatibility recipe included so old mods would still work
01:03 VanessaE dig mese -> get mese crystal -> craft crystal + stone back to mese ore -> use that in old recipes that just call for "mese".
01:03 Uberi VanessaE: ah, I understand now
01:03 VanessaE otherwise, dig mese -> get crystal -> use that or craft it into fragments or blocks and use those.
01:04 Uberi so mese blocks are default:mese, right?
01:04 Uberi or is that the ore
01:04 VanessaE mese "blocks" are mese blocks :-)
01:04 VanessaE default:mese is the "ore".
01:04 Uberi ah
01:04 VanessaE default:mese_crystal is what it drops when dug
01:05 VanessaE craft 9 to get a block, or craft just 1 to get 9 fragments, which stuff like mesecons should use.
01:05 VanessaE you can try it out on my server.
01:05 NakedFury please use a better alias, we need to drop the _ in aliases
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01:06 VanessaE NakedFury: no aliases are being used.
01:06 VanessaE this is all straight code.
01:06 VanessaE Uberi: sign onto vanessae.mine.bz:30000 and give it a try.
01:06 NakedFury add a crystal alias
01:06 VanessaE celeron55 can add that if he wants, I don't see a need for it
01:07 Uberi sure, one moment
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01:08 OldCoder frogcrush, wb
01:08 Uberi I can tell this media download might take a while...
01:08 VanessaE it might
01:08 OldCoder Uberi, we have fixes for that now
01:08 VanessaE but lately, people haven't been having much trouble getting it all.
01:08 VanessaE I have a copy of my cache on the forum thread
01:09 Uberi oh hey 61%
01:09 Uberi not too shabby at all
01:09 VanessaE there are two useful recipes right now
01:10 VanessaE for a mese pickaxe, use three mese crystals in place of the usual mese objects, plus two sticks
01:10 VanessaE to craft a UFO,
01:10 VanessaE - G -
01:10 VanessaE F S F
01:10 Uberi wow that is a lot of blocks
01:10 VanessaE I C I
01:10 VanessaE G = glass, F = crystal fragment, S = stone, C = crystal, I = steel ingot
01:11 Uberi what's a crystal fragment?
01:11 VanessaE over 1800 defined items on this server ;_)
01:11 VanessaE I'll show you
01:11 Uberi :O
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01:20 Uberi !up vanessae.mine.bz
01:20 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP
01:20 Uberi :/
01:20 VanessaE ?
01:20 Uberi oh now it's connecting
01:21 VanessaE wtf?
01:21 VanessaE something's odd..
01:21 Uberi you just timed out
01:21 VanessaE oh right, I forgot it takes time to reconnect after that
01:21 VanessaE F10 crash.
01:24 kaeza anyone? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/361
01:24 moltenbot kaeza's link: Added texture transformations documentation to MT Lua API docs. by kaeza ? Pull Request #361 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
01:24 kaeza VanessaE: ^
01:25 kaeza marktraceur: ^
01:25 marktraceur Meeehhhhh
01:25 marktraceur Could use a silent night at home with some tasty noms.
01:26 VanessaE kaeza: +(2^41-1) internetz
01:26 kaeza thx :)
01:26 VanessaE er 2^63-1
01:26 marktraceur Whoa, 2^41
01:26 VanessaE damn it I can't type
01:26 VanessaE I give up :-)
01:26 marktraceur VanessaE: +(INT_MAX * INT_MAX)
01:26 marktraceur Well
01:26 marktraceur Maybe not
01:26 kaeza overflow
01:27 kaeza meh
01:27 VanessaE heh
01:27 VanessaE kaeza: really though, this is a BIG plus
01:27 kaeza just a bit sleepy from browsing that C++ mess
01:27 VanessaE it was ABOUT G*DDAMN TIME someone documented this :-)
01:27 kaeza I just ripped off the source
01:27 VanessaE so?
01:27 kaeza and added a bunch of docs myself
01:28 marktraceur kaeza: If you're interested, we're thinking of having a doc sprint sometime in January.
01:28 kaeza marktraceur: of course
01:28 VanessaE define "doc sprint"
01:28 kaeza lua_api.txt needs a complete revamp
01:28 kaeza IMHO
01:28 marktraceur VanessaE: Go through bits of code, comment them out, write wiki pages about everything
01:28 VanessaE ah
01:28 marktraceur thexyz: Didn't you have a mediawiki instance set up?
01:29 NakedFury if possible comment them so dummies can understand it
01:29 kaeza VanessaE, marktraceur: care to review it later?
01:29 kaeza I still think it could be better
01:29 VanessaE kaeza: review what, a revamped API?
01:29 kaeza my pull
01:29 kaeza request
01:30 VanessaE the documented texture transforms?
01:30 kaeza yup
01:30 VanessaE I'm reading it now.
01:30 kaeza tell me if something is not clear
01:31 marktraceur Mrrrr. Maybe.
01:31 NakedFury +[forcesingle is that missing a ]
01:31 VanessaE NakedFury: no.
01:31 VanessaE kaeza: not that many of us need it, but filename^filename^... should also be documented.
01:32 kaeza k
01:32 VanessaE NakedFury: only the open bracket is used on these transform commands - like a command wedge
01:32 NakedFury I would suggest maybe mentioning all [crack# states
01:33 NakedFury from 0 to MAX
01:33 kaeza the problem is they depend on the crack textrue
01:33 NakedFury ok just read that part
01:33 VanessaE kaeza: [inventorycube is too terse. you should expand the description some
01:33 NakedFury since when was this added?
01:34 kaeza VanessaE: I know
01:34 kaeza I'll expand it
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01:35 kaeza but if you see, a few parts in lua_api.txt are also a bit terse
01:36 VanessaE to put it mildly :-)
01:36 NakedFury maybe add an example after lines 1253 and 1254. Also can this be used more than once in the same line?
01:36 NakedFury texture.png^forcesingle^crack2?
01:36 kaeza NakedFury: k
01:36 kaeza I believe most of them yes
01:36 NakedFury well you can mention that too
01:37 OldCoder NakedFury, touch base with Zeg9 when you can. See if he is interested in working on the avatars mod he mentioned. That is the way I play to add 3D avatars.
01:37 kaeza with the notable exception of [inventorycube
01:37 NakedFury ok. I tried to check if he had a topic about that already made
01:40 kaeza marktraceur: a new `lua_api.html' or at least `lua_api.info' would be good
01:40 kaeza but would need a lot of work right now
01:40 marktraceur kaeza: There's probably a format you could use that would compile to HTML
01:40 marktraceur kaeza: e.g. markdown or something
01:41 kaeza hmmm
01:41 kaeza I like texinfo since it can be nicely exported to a lox of formats
01:41 kaeza lot*
01:41 marktraceur Seems pretty reasonable
01:42 kaeza but IDK if it's available everywhere
02:00 NakedFury encyclopedia of minetest
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02:04 kaeza NakedFury: ?
02:04 kaeza hello Dogzilla131
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02:06 Asahammer hi
02:06 VanessaE hi
02:06 Dogzilla131 hello kaeza
02:07 kaeza hi Asahammer
02:07 kaeza hi dawg
02:07 kaeza :)
02:07 kaeza what's up?
02:08 Asahammer Not too much here, kind of wondering if the public servers list on the Minetest site is accurate.  Cause I tried a few the other day with no success.
02:08 Uberi Asahammer: try vanessae.mine.bz, creative server
02:08 VanessaE you need latest git for it to work 100% right
02:08 VanessaE (or at least later than Dec. 2)
02:09 Asahammer The latest what?
02:09 VanessaE git - that's how the game's source code is distributed.
02:09 Uberi the latest version
02:09 VanessaE it's basically the bleeding edge source code, experimental features, that sort of thing
02:09 VanessaE it's what code is put through before it becomes a release that you see on the downloads page
02:10 kaeza Asahammer: basically, you get 10 new features for the price of 213845823 bugs :)
02:11 VanessaE haha well not quite THAT bad but sometimes :D
02:12 Asahammer I downloaded 0.4.4.
02:12 VanessaE it might work, try it and see :-)
02:12 kaeza well... maybe just 213845822.99
02:12 NakedFury you can try the above mentioned server or minetest.org ports 30000 to 30018
02:13 VanessaE Asahammer: one thing you'll notice is that servers come and go a lot around her
02:13 VanessaE here
02:13 VanessaE some have persisted for a long time though, like redcrab's
02:14 kaeza also, except for Nek... err.. some users, we are not 3L171575
02:14 Uberi :P
02:16 jojoa1997 maybe you should look at flags mod is it outdated?
02:16 Uberi no idea
02:16 jojoa1997 wrong section
02:16 kaeza Dogzilla131: I have some fixes to moreflags
02:17 kaeza but I fixed an old copy :(
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02:29 Uberi bye everyone!
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02:38 kaeza Who is this Someguy1234?
02:38 VanessaE I dunno, just some guy. :-)
02:39 kaeza he keeps getting Excess Flood
02:39 VanessaE might be Calinou :P
02:39 VanessaE that's his usual signof msg
02:40 kaeza on a different topic, I think I'll make the C64/128 thicker
02:40 kaeza as you said
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02:41 VanessaE well
02:41 kaeza and maybe I'll split the 128 version into two nodeboxes
02:41 ieatbacos Hi, is it possible to add music to minetest?
02:41 VanessaE make the C64 thicker
02:41 VanessaE but make the Z+/back part of the C128 a little thinner
02:41 kaeza yup.
02:41 kaeza my thoughts exactly
02:41 VanessaE and btw, you don't have to call then Admiral :-)
02:41 kaeza ieatbacos: try the ambience mod
02:42 kaeza VanessaE: it's a pun on "Commodore"
02:42 VanessaE I know :-)
02:42 VanessaE ieatbacos: ambiance, or technic-ambiance extended version
02:42 VanessaE both are large downloads though
02:42 kaeza what would be a better name for it?
02:42 ieatbacos Ok
02:43 VanessaE leave it as it is then :-)
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02:43 VanessaE hey Splizard.
02:43 kaeza hi Splizard
02:43 Splizard hi
02:43 kaeza and hi... Someguy1234
02:44 Splizard I heard somewhere that hats were supported for 3d models, is that true?
02:44 VanessaE yes
02:44 VanessaE regular MC skins, with or without 'hats'
02:44 kaeza Splizard: not really "hats"
02:44 kaeza more like "helmets
02:45 kaeza just headgear in general
02:45 Splizard ok
02:45 kaeza of course, I don't think it's possible to make a wizard hat
02:45 VanessaE kaeza: I'm sure a good artist will find a way to fake it :-()
02:46 VanessaE :-)
02:47 kaeza VanessaE: If Doom 3 can fake horrible geometry with shaders, anything can be done
02:47 VanessaE heh
02:47 NakedFury with time I think the models could be updated to include hats
02:47 NakedFury of any shape
02:48 NakedFury before that we would need to come up with MT own original player model
02:49 kaeza someone was talking about client provided players IIRC
02:49 VanessaE such models are already possible - the UFOs mod has some non-square shapes already
02:49 VanessaE (triangular wings)
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02:49 kizeren IIRC?
02:49 kaeza you can now use models for entities?
02:49 VanessaE If I Recall Correctly
02:50 VanessaE kaeza: yes
02:50 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwPEIcAVB8I&amp;feature=youtu.be
02:50 kaeza kizeren: IIRC = If I Remember/Recall Correctly
02:50 moltenbot harrison's link: marmalade mice and tangerine skies - YouTube
02:50 harrison marmalade mice and tangerine skies
02:50 kizeren Hehehehe
02:50 VanessaE kaeza: UFOs, carts, boats all have custom models
02:50 kizeren I am so out on jargon
02:50 VanessaE IIRC is quite old
02:50 VanessaE like pre-BBS-days old :-)
02:50 kaeza BBS? so oldschool
02:50 kaeza :)
02:51 kizeren Hm.....
02:51 kizeren I can honestly say in all my days of MUDS I have never seen IIRC
02:51 kaeza VanessaE: but I bet the API is not included in lua_api.txt right?
02:52 cy1 ishygddt
02:52 kaeza brb
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02:54 VanessaE kaeza1: actually I haven't looked.  I'm not sure if it is or not.
02:55 kaeza1 hmmm
02:55 kaeza1 I'll have to look at the UFO mod
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03:37 kaeza lol http://cheezburger.com/6855014656
03:37 moltenbot kaeza's link: Oh God! Here Too! - Cheezburger
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03:48 OldCoder davidpace, Dogzilla131 wb
03:54 davidpace Thanks OldCoder
03:54 kaeza It's a bit lonely in here
03:54 kaeza :(
03:55 OldCoder kaeza, Hi!
03:55 kaeza hi OldCoder
03:55 OldCoder kaeza, I look forward to the IRC mod
03:55 OldCoder Then there will be more MT channels to talk in
03:55 OldCoder And you won't be lonely :-)
03:55 kaeza thx :P
03:56 kaeza but I still can't find why you can't connect
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03:56 kaeza everything seems fine
03:56 kizeren OlderCoder can I get your textures and ambience?
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03:59 kaeza kizeren: I just saw your issue report
04:00 kizeren ooo?
04:00 kaeza I'm sorry I didn't notice it before
04:01 kizeren NO worries
04:01 jordan4ibanez i wish the server DIDNT FUCKING PRINT FORCING DELETE EVERY GOD DAMN TIME IT DELETES A FUCKING ENTITY
04:01 kaeza I mean the login/logout problem
04:01 VanessaE +1
04:02 kizeren kaeza
04:02 kaeza yes?
04:02 kizeren I have been messing with the code all night.  Can't get the callback("connect") to work properly but the logging off displays proper message.
04:02 kaeza hmm
04:02 kaeza explain
04:02 kaeza does it not get called?
04:03 kaeza apparently, LuaIRC calls ir on `irc.connect()'
04:03 kaeza it*
04:03 kizeren This message "*** Shaun joins the game." doesn't get displayed.  But "*** Shaun left the game. " does.
04:03 VanessaE kaeza: so, have you moved beyond needing a binary lib yet? :-)
04:04 kaeza VanessaE: not until celeron55 approves exporting some api
04:04 VanessaE damn
04:04 VanessaE I'm kinda wanting to add this mod to my server :-)
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04:05 VanessaE then I can F2 and move all my chatter over to my IRC client where it belongs
04:05 VanessaE hey Dolan
04:05 Dolan_ hey :D
04:05 Dolan_ wait
04:05 Dolan_ i'll get the URL
04:05 VanessaE ok
04:05 Dolan_ ]what time is it there?
04:05 VanessaE 11:05pm
04:05 kizeren VanessaE the IRC is for the most part working fine.  Is the binary you don't want?
04:05 Dolan_ oh
04:05 Dolan_ 02:05 PM
04:06 VanessaE kizeren: yeah pretty much - I don't want to install an out-of-game program.
04:06 kaeza VanessaE: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-17#i_2729099
04:06 moltenbot kaeza's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-17
04:06 Dolan_ http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/471845/minecraft-dolan/
04:06 moltenbot Dolan_'s link: minecraft dolan | Minecraft Skin
04:06 VanessaE haha
04:07 VanessaE ok dolan if you want :-)
04:07 Dolan_ tika.
04:07 Dolan_ goes to play*
04:07 VanessaE wait
04:07 kaeza gooby pls
04:07 VanessaE server restart to install it.
04:07 Dolan_ OK .-.
04:07 VanessaE done.
04:07 Dolan_ can i re-enter now?
04:08 Dolan_ ?
04:08 VanessaE yup
04:08 Dolan_ ok
04:09 VanessaE hi "Donald" :-)
04:10 kaeza minecrest pls
04:10 VanessaE eh?
04:10 kaeza nvm
04:11 kaeza kizeren: is "connect" callback not getting called?
04:11 VanessaE kaeza: hrm, well at least he's not rejecting the idea..
04:12 kaeza ?
04:12 Dolan_ OMFG
04:12 Dolan_ THERE'S A DEMIN IN MY SISTER
04:12 VanessaE kaeza: by that log you posted, it looks like he's generally willing
04:12 Dolan_ LOL
04:12 VanessaE Dolan_: you are taking forever to connect
04:12 Dolan_ like always
04:13 kaeza VanessaE: yes I know
04:13 VanessaE Dolan_: it's "demon" btw.
04:13 Dolan_ my PC is fast as fuck
04:13 kaeza he just said he's having problems with "connect"
04:13 VanessaE Dolan_: it happens for some people - some folks are super fast at connecting, others not so much.
04:13 Dolan_ i know,look where's ''i'' and where's ''o'' on the keyboard
04:13 VanessaE Dolan_: you timed out.  try again.
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04:13 kizeren kaeza: it appears it is not.
04:14 kaeza hmm
04:14 kizeren I am not exactly sure how to test if it is getting called or not.
04:14 kaeza can you pastebin your code?
04:15 kizeren Its the latest git
04:15 kizeren Yours does it also.
04:15 kaeza lemme check
04:15 Dolan_ dude
04:15 Dolan_ i need
04:15 Dolan_ 64
04:15 Dolan_ games
04:15 Dolan_ like zelda
04:16 kizeren I am guessing since we auto connect on start.  Then player joins.  There is no callback or function being called that is "connect"
04:16 Splizard Hi, does anyone know if is it possible to overide the 3d players animation?
04:16 Dolan_ i even don't know whats overide lol
04:16 kizeren I think pilzadam has a mod that allows for custom avatars.
04:16 VanessaE Splizard: not sure, but I believe you replace the model file with a new one containing the desired animations
04:17 VanessaE kizeren: sdzen, and I use it on my server
04:17 kaeza kizeren: yes
04:17 VanessaE player_textures
04:17 kizeren AHh sorry
04:17 kizeren Still trying to learn who does what.
04:17 kaeza kizeren uncomment line 87 of init.lua
04:17 VanessaE you'll learn it :-)
04:17 Splizard VannessaE: what I mean is having the player eg. sit on a chair
04:18 Splizard without editing the default mod
04:18 VanessaE Splizard: sit command.  a mod jordan4ibanez did I think
04:18 kaeza kizeren: I will spray comments everywhere next update
04:18 jordan4ibanez mijyn
04:19 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3977
04:19 moltenbot VanessaE's link: Player sit command (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
04:19 VanessaE mke that mijyn
04:19 VanessaE make*
04:19 Splizard VannesaE: thx
04:19 kaeza hello jordan4ibanez
04:19 kizeren kaeza let me get fresh git I got mine all goofy from testing.
04:19 VanessaE np
04:19 VanessaE ok, time to get outta here for the night
04:19 VanessaE be back tomorrow :-)
04:19 kaeza kizeren: please use a separate build dir this time :)
04:19 kaeza bye V
04:19 VanessaE night all
04:20 kizeren kaeza 87 isn't commented out
04:21 kaeza kizeren: irc.say(mt_irc.channel, "*** "..player:get_player_name().." joined the game");
04:21 kaeza is that the one?
04:21 kizeren Yea.   Its not commented out.
04:22 kaeza lemme test it
04:22 kizeren but line 86 is the one that tells the bot to connect.  That is the line that does not seem to be doing its job.
04:28 jordan4ibanez hi kaeza
04:29 jordan4ibanez oh shit, i was so busy i released my mod with a big in it :O
04:29 kaeza a big?
04:29 kaeza haven't tested it yet
04:29 kaeza sorry
04:29 jordan4ibanez bug
04:30 OldCoder Big bug
04:30 OldCoder B{i,u}g
04:30 OldCoder Biug
04:30 jordan4ibanez 23:30:24: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...home/jordan/Desktop/minetest/bin/../builtin/misc.lua:15: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'time' (a string value)
04:30 jordan4ibanez wtf is THAT
04:32 jordan4ibanez Wait, i don't think that's a bug in my mod
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04:33 jordan4ibanez Yea, that doesn't happen on my latest github verion of minetest, that is weird
04:33 Aqu hello
04:33 Aqu Aqua*
04:33 kaeza hello Aqu
04:33 kaeza Aqu: /nick Aqua
04:34 Aqua its registered
04:34 kaeza I read it with a 't' instead of an 'f' lol
04:36 ShiftyCake lol
04:36 sokomine hi
04:36 ShiftyCake Have you seen my minetest 0.4.4 viedeo
04:37 ShiftyCake I'm trying yo be funnier without swearing
04:37 ShiftyCake to*
04:37 sokomine is there a way to use formspec-menues with non-nodes? especially with npc?
04:38 sokomine hm, if you have enough players running around it might look funny on its own
04:39 jordan4ibanez can i have a link?
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04:40 ShiftyCake sure
04:40 ShiftyCake wait editing the desription 1 min
04:44 ShiftyCake When im digging cobble the screen goes purple-ish how do i fix that
04:44 ShiftyCake in the video
04:44 ShiftyCake And what recorder do you use?
04:45 ShiftyCake in your lets play
04:46 cy1 ShiftyCake: links?
04:46 ShiftyCake Here: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM8ZYacqcz6kDOpyEjhUTSA/featured
04:46 moltenbot ShiftyCake's link: Shaun Zero - YouTube
04:46 ShiftyCake I'm really sorry about my voice it was late
04:46 ShiftyCake I used hypercam but it didnt turn out well
04:47 jordan4ibanez ummmm, can someone else test out my fireworks to see if misc.lua gives them an issue?
04:48 ShiftyCake jordan what recorder do you use?
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04:49 moltenbot Splizard's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC
04:49 ShiftyCake Please tell me
04:53 ShiftyCake Did you see it....
04:56 ShiftyCake ?
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05:09 thexyz marktraceur: i do, http://wapi.minetest.ru, it's not finished yet
05:14 marktraceur KK
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05:15 RagnarLaud Hi
05:15 RagnarLaud Hello Minetest-tan
05:15 Minetest-tan Hello RagnarLaud!
05:16 RagnarLaud Hi moltenbot
05:16 moltenbot hi RagnarLaud
05:16 RagnarLaud :
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05:18 OldCoder 3D can be overridden
05:18 marktraceur RagnarLaud: Hello! How's it going?
05:18 OldCoder We are working on a possible mod
05:19 ShiftyCake hi ragnar
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05:32 OldCoder marktraceur, anunakki hi!
05:39 VanessaE sigh..
05:39 VanessaE well that was a colossal waste of timne
05:39 VanessaE time*
05:39 VanessaE can't sleep.
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05:41 jordan4ibanez I've found the issue, you can't place it into your mod directory, it has to be placed in your gamemode directory, which is WEIRD!
05:42 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: player_textures is like that too.  won't work unless it's part of a game.
05:42 jordan4ibanez Well i'm glad that's all sorted out, goodnight
05:42 * jordan4ibanez pats vanessae on the bed
05:42 jordan4ibanez sleep tight lol
05:42 VanessaE hah
05:42 kaeza hi again V
05:42 VanessaE hey
05:43 Aqua_ is 2516kb, a big file?
05:43 kaeza seems you can't sleep
05:43 VanessaE depends on whay it's for
05:43 VanessaE kaeza: as usual.
05:45 kaeza a nice glass of milk (or a bottle of beer) can cure that
05:45 VanessaE heh
05:46 VanessaE actually I had a good swig of milk just before I went to bed.
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05:54 celeron55 VanessaE: i don't understand the way you think
05:55 celeron55 VanessaE: you think that i shouldn't be the dictator of the project, and then you insist on me making every decision
05:55 celeron55 is this some kind of woman logic
05:56 VanessaE um?
05:56 VanessaE *shakes head*
05:57 VanessaE the problem isn't whether you are a dictator of the project or not, it's your prerogative.  The problem is when no one *else* is willing to make a decision because they either don't want to step on your toes, or don't know what to decide.
05:57 celeron55 just ask PilzAdam to take a final look and merge it, he's been mainly taking care of minetest_game recently
05:57 kaeza celeron55: could you please? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/361
05:57 moltenbot kaeza's link: Added texture transformations documentation to MT Lua API docs. by kaeza ? Pull Request #361 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
05:57 VanessaE I did - he hates it becuase of the yellow textures.
05:57 VanessaE and he doesn't care much for the idea of mese -> crystals -> etc.  even though he's been outvoted roughly 3:1 by now.
05:57 VanessaE :-)
05:57 kaeza and hi!
05:59 celeron55 i still don't like the textures either
05:59 VanessaE yeah well they're 1000000x better than black-on-yellow [ mEsE ]
05:59 VanessaE :-)
06:00 VanessaE no offense :-)
06:01 celeron55 that one doesn't even intend to be good in any way
06:01 VanessaE I know
06:01 VanessaE but what I've provided is *still* better :-)
06:02 VanessaE see, the whole idea is here is to get the code into place so others can use it, and then fix the textures later by whoever wants to commit new ones.
06:02 VanessaE (as long as we don't get a repeat of that weird olive-colored mese block we had for a while there -- sorry cisoun :-)  )
06:06 VanessaE besides -- UFO mod?  Mese as an alien artifact?  Come on, it just screams for my update :-)
06:08 NakedFury rework texture until it the opposition likes it
06:08 celeron55 are you seriously continuing to mock me because of an example i said that i said was horrible?
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06:08 OldCoder celeron55, Hi
06:08 celeron55 this is not far from me kicking you
06:08 VanessaE huh?
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06:09 RagnarLaud Hi moltenbot
06:09 moltenbot hi RagnarLaud
06:09 RagnarLaud Hi minetest-tan
06:09 Minetest-tan Hello RagnarLaud
06:09 RagnarLaud I need those bots
06:09 RagnarLaud !joke
06:10 VanessaE celeron55: I think you're seriously misreading my intention now.
06:10 RagnarLaud Hi VanessaE
06:10 kaeza1 back
06:10 RagnarLaud Hey VanessaE, my keyboard has the "any" key
06:11 RagnarLaud Hi kaeza
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06:12 RagnarLaud Hey kaeza
06:12 kaeza hi
06:12 RagnarLaud !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud !joke
06:12 kaeza not this again
06:13 VanessaE RagnarLaud: knock it off.
06:13 RagnarLaud No this was once
06:13 OldCoder RagnarLaud, we can get you the jokes database if you wish it
06:13 kaeza RagnarLaud: /repeat
06:13 kaeza don't do that
06:13 RagnarLaud was kicked by celeron55: RagnarLaud
06:13 OldCoder celeron55, PM
06:13 VanessaE celeron55: my whole point is not to mock (in fact by now I would have hoped you'd come to understand that).  My point is to suggest that an improvement exists.  Nothing more.
06:14 OldCoder celeron55, BTW Good morning
06:14 celeron55 very good kickban-filled morning
06:15 OldCoder Heh
06:15 * VanessaE watches her kitten go apeshit over a little container that was dropped on the floor
06:16 VanessaE 100% pure entertainment --->
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06:16 VanessaE morning jin_xi n
06:16 VanessaE -n
06:16 jin_xi hi there
06:16 OldCoder Hi
06:17 kaeza hi jin_xi
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06:33 VanessaE heh, he didn't stay long.
06:37 NakedFury http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/unlocking-your-smartphone-will-soon-be-illegal-and-other-new-dmca-rule-insanity/?utm_source=nrel1
06:37 moltenbot NakedFury's link: DMCA rule insanity: Unlocking your smartphone will soon be illegal | Digital Trends
06:38 cy1 NakedFury: man I don't even own a smartphone and that hurts to read.
06:39 NakedFury Corey Hall   52 days Ago   I really could care less. I'm still gonna jailbreak, root, and unlock my devices
06:39 NakedFury best comment
06:40 cy1 I dunno, that comment seems to downplay the ability of the USA to enforce its own laws...
06:40 NakedFury unless they create a new police to check peoples tablets then that is just some stuff written on a piece of paper
06:42 NakedFury same as when games terms of use make you give up your right to some stuff, really bad
06:42 cy1 NakedFury: ever hear the term "arbitrary justice?"
06:42 cy1 how about "Stamp Act of 1765?"
06:43 NakedFury wait checking about the first
06:43 NakedFury ok this is only checking definition for arbitrary and wont tell me about the full term
06:44 cy1 ppl will just keep their materials without getting a stamp the british will never be able to enforce it
06:44 cy1 NakedFury: I'll find a link, momentai
06:45 cy1 NakedFury: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_prosecution
06:45 moltenbot cy1's link: Selective prosecution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
06:46 NakedFury just finished reading the stamp act
06:47 NakedFury ok
06:47 cy1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law <-- what doesn't exist where there is arbitrary justice...
06:47 moltenbot cy1's link: Rule of law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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07:03 kaeza ok guys time to go
07:04 kaeza see you later
07:04 OldCoder c u
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07:05 YoMamaSoUgly Hi moltenbot
07:05 moltenbot hi YoMamaSoUgly
07:05 YoMamaSoUgly Hi minetest-tan
07:05 Minetest-tan Hi YoMamaSoUgly!
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly !joke
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07:28 davidpace I'm watching your video right now Aqua
07:28 davidpace Wait, he left?
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08:00 VanessaE neko259: I think the plantlife lib is stable, those height limit changes I mentioned are already in place and *seem* to work but I have not had a chance to stress-test them.
08:01 VanessaE also, good morning (or whatever)
08:06 neko259 VanessaE: I also wrote the water limit changes for growing, but haven't tested it yet :)
08:06 VanessaE cool
08:06 VanessaE well the latest code is up on my repos if you wanna give it a shot.  patches welcome.
08:07 neko259 Ok, thanks.
08:07 VanessaE if you spot a bug I missed or if my code is just stupid, I wouldn't mind a fix or two :-0
08:07 VanessaE :-)
08:07 VanessaE I think I'm gonna head off to bed now
08:07 OldCoder c u
08:07 VanessaE night all.
08:09 OldCoder o/
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08:26 Zephyrus1497 Hi everyone!
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10:01 RagnarLaud Hi moltenbot
10:01 moltenbot hi RagnarLaud
10:01 RagnarLaud Hi minetest-tan
10:01 Minetest-tan Hey RagnarLaud!
10:01 RagnarLaud Hi Ragnar Laud
10:01 RagnarLaud Hi Ragnar Laud
10:02 RagnarLaud !joke
10:02 RagnarLaud !g joke
10:02 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.jokes.com/
10:02 RagnarLaud !server
10:02 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: glomie's server | 94.23.33.108:30000   up (99.407%)
10:03 RagnarLaud !up
10:03 moltenbot Minetest server !up:!up DOWN
10:03 RagnarLaud !up pythonserv.sytes.com
10:03 moltenbot Minetest server pythonserv.sytes.com:30000 DOWN
10:04 RagnarLaud !up vanessae
10:04 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae:30000 DOWN
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11:01 Calinou it's vanessae.mine.bz
11:01 Calinou looks like it is down currently
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11:18 OldCoder Good night
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12:10 RagnarLaud hi
12:10 RagnarLaud u just registred my account yay :D
12:10 RagnarLaud hi Minetest-Tan
12:10 Minetest-tan Hi RagnarLaud!
12:10 RagnarLaud hi moltenbot
12:10 moltenbot hi RagnarLaud
12:12 RagnarLaud !joke
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12:15 RagnarLaud hi!
12:22 celeron55 whoever owns the bots: remove that hi thing, both
12:23 RagnarLaud hey Celeron55
12:23 RagnarLaud can you help me please?
12:23 celeron55 maybe
12:23 RagnarLaud idk how to use ftp with linux...
12:24 RagnarLaud please?!
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12:24 RagnarLaud come on man
12:24 celeron55 i'm not here to help you with that; google it
12:24 RagnarLaud gee, thanks alot asshole!
12:24 RagnarLaud i ask your help and you dont even help 0.0001%
12:24 celeron55 you're welcome, asshole 8)
12:25 RagnarLaud fuck you
12:25 RagnarLaud you think youre soo damn cool eh? why didnt you make something, oh idk...less minecraft-ish?
12:25 RagnarLaud or atleast less lagging
12:25 celeron55 i make all sorts of things; it's not really my problem if people like the minecraft-ish thing that i happened to make
12:26 RagnarLaud you think youre smart, so make it lag less
12:26 RagnarLaud whats the matter, cat shit on your tounge?
12:26 celeron55 yeah, i regularly eat cat poop
12:26 celeron55 yummy stuff
12:27 RagnarLaud you do know that this isnt PM right?
12:27 celeron55 i do
12:27 RagnarLaud EVERYONE can see this...
12:27 celeron55 yeah, and the fact that i have operator status at the same time probably looks quite interesting 8-)
12:28 RagnarLaud dude i dont actually give a shit
12:28 celeron55 so how's your day going?
12:28 RagnarLaud i know your kind...
12:28 RagnarLaud behind the computer, youre the fucking king...
12:28 RagnarLaud do what you want, say what you want etc...
12:28 RagnarLaud but in real life you are nothing else that a mother fucking pussy
12:29 RagnarLaud prove me wrong!
12:29 celeron55 nobody is much more than a mother fucking pussy in real life
12:29 celeron55 i wouldn't guess you were either
12:29 RagnarLaud im 3 hours away from you...
12:29 RagnarLaud you want me to come there and fuck you to next year?
12:30 celeron55 probably not
12:31 RagnarLaud then shut the fuck up!
12:31 celeron55 you're the one asking things :P
12:31 RagnarLaud ive been to court more times that you have updated minetest...all for assault...
12:32 RagnarLaud so you really think you wanna mess with me?
12:32 RagnarLaud i hope not
12:32 celeron55 are you proud of that
12:32 RagnarLaud cause if you really piss me off, then im not responsable for my actions
12:32 RagnarLaud you got it, punk?!
12:32 Dopium lol
12:32 celeron55 the law does say otherwise
12:33 RagnarLaud hey Dopium
12:33 RagnarLaud see what a coward he is?
12:33 RagnarLaud hides behind the law -.-
12:33 celeron55 see how awesome lawless ganster this guy is!
12:33 RagnarLaud you think thats gonna save you?
12:33 celeron55 ooh!
12:33 celeron55 :-D
12:34 RagnarLaud fat chance
12:43 RagnarLaud !g html tutorial
12:43 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp
12:44 RagnarLaud see celeron55, even Minetest-tan helps more that you!
12:44 RagnarLaud atleast it gives a fucking LINK!!!
12:44 RagnarLaud it doesnt say "Google it"
12:44 RagnarLaud it does it FOR me!
12:45 celeron55 yes, that's what computers are made for
12:45 RagnarLaud !g html align center
12:45 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_div_align.asp
12:46 RagnarLaud and you wanna get rid of them?
12:46 celeron55 by the way, always include for example "mdn" to searches about web technologies
12:46 RagnarLaud srsly, you suck!
12:46 celeron55 w3schools is very bad
12:46 RagnarLaud well it helps more than you do asshole!
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12:59 Garp Hi.
13:00 Garp I'm getting the following error: 13:55:46: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player
13:01 RagnarLaud so celeron55, work your magic and show him how "smart" you are xD
13:01 Garp Looked for help, didnt find much. Looks like it happends, but no solution found.
13:01 Garp Where should I look to understand what the problem may be ?
13:01 Garp Thnaks.
13:02 Garp Thanks ;)
13:06 Kray >w3schools
13:07 Kray http://tsundere.fi/b/eivv.jpg
13:14 celeron55 Garp: it's a known error, i think it usually happens when a client crashes without properly quitting, and then you try to connect within the 30s timeout
13:14 celeron55 if this is not that case, maybe you can try to figure out what case it is 8)
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13:36 Dracopta nick KikaRz
13:36 KikaRz Hi there :)
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13:36 KikaRz heey
13:36 KikaRz :c
13:36 RagnarLaud hey KikaRz
13:36 RagnarLaud KikaRz can you help me PLEASE?!
13:36 KikaRz ??
13:36 KikaRz lawl
13:37 KikaRz People, are you listening me?
13:38 RagnarLaud i ran my "website" from my compter, to test it...and when i do <a href="./forum/index.php">Forum</a href> it starts downloading the .php
13:38 RagnarLaud help?
13:39 celeron55 you need a web server that executes php scripts
13:39 RagnarLaud firefox?
13:39 celeron55 your browser or file manager won't do that
13:39 RagnarLaud so firefox doesnt do that?
13:39 RagnarLaud huh... :/
13:40 RagnarLaud hey celeron55
13:40 RagnarLaud im sorry for flipping out earlier
13:40 RagnarLaud i just had a hard day at school : got picked on , didnt get enought sleep...
13:41 RagnarLaud had a test in maths, that a failed...
13:41 RagnarLaud so do you forgive me?
13:41 celeron55 the combination of this and the earlier sounds odd and pretentious
13:41 RagnarLaud what?
13:42 RagnarLaud you mean, that its kinda odd, that first i was angry, and now im not?
13:42 celeron55 but in any case i don't need to forgive you because you have nothing to be sorry about
13:42 RagnarLaud really?
13:42 * VanessaE wanders in
13:42 RagnarLaud no hard feelings?
13:42 VanessaE good morning.
13:42 RagnarLaud hi VanessaE
13:42 RagnarLaud i registred :D
13:42 VanessaE yay.
13:42 RagnarLaud hey vaness...
13:42 RagnarLaud can you help me?
13:43 RagnarLaud how do i execute my forum on a website?
13:43 VanessaE I don't know.  I've never done that.
13:43 KikaRz VanessaE
13:43 KikaRz can you go query for a bit?
13:43 VanessaE morning KikaRz
13:43 VanessaE sure.
13:43 RagnarLaud i downloaded punBB, the latest one, and there is no index.html, but there is a index.php...
13:43 RagnarLaud but i have issues with php's...
13:44 RagnarLaud hey celeron55
13:44 RagnarLaud PM
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13:47 VanessaE who oh why does sleep have to be so fleeting for me :(
13:47 VanessaE why*
13:47 RagnarLaud what?
13:47 RagnarLaud say again...
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13:49 Darkbee Hello
13:49 RagnarLaud hey Darkbee
13:50 RagnarLaud how much do you know php?
13:50 Darkbee not really
13:50 Darkbee I just came to say that my item pickup issue was resolved.
13:50 RagnarLaud oh ok...
13:50 RagnarLaud and what caused it?
13:50 Darkbee Just exiting the game and reloading seem to do the trick... last night I was able to pick up the items, no problem.
13:50 RagnarLaud oh...
13:50 Darkbee I have no idea.
13:50 * RagnarLaud hoped it was lag
13:51 * RagnarLaud would have almost been right
13:51 Darkbee I have a new question... is there way to find out the coordinates of your current location?
13:51 jin_xi f5
13:51 RagnarLaud yes
13:51 RagnarLaud hey jin_xi
13:51 RagnarLaud know php?
13:52 Darkbee Thanks
13:52 jin_xi no, never used it
13:52 RagnarLaud oh...
13:52 RagnarLaud but do you know any good ftp-able web hosters?
13:52 RagnarLaud except bugs3
13:53 RagnarLaud btw jin_xi
13:53 RagnarLaud you know that when you type in http://www.minetest.net/forum it goes to http://www.minetest.net/forum/index.php
13:53 moltenbot RagnarLaud's link: Minetest Forums
13:54 RagnarLaud how can i do that?
13:54 jin_xi its the web server doing it
13:54 RagnarLaud oh... ok...
13:54 RagnarLaud but is it possible for me to do?
13:55 RagnarLaud i need that :(
13:55 RagnarLaud or atleast teach me how to set up a forum...
13:55 RagnarLaud i downloaded punBB
13:55 Darkbee simplest way would be to do HTML redirect page.
13:55 RagnarLaud ?
13:55 RagnarLaud to the index.php page?
13:55 RagnarLaud it starts downloading it :(
13:55 RagnarLaud when i test it...
13:56 RagnarLaud but it doesnt start downloading the .php file on minetest forums...
13:56 Darkbee errr
13:56 RagnarLaud why?
13:56 Darkbee does your server support PHP?
13:56 Darkbee or rather is it installed?
13:56 RagnarLaud i said that im testing it out with my computer at first
13:56 Darkbee oh
13:57 RagnarLaud but wait a sec
13:57 Darkbee then you don't have PHP set up correctly.
13:57 Darkbee what server software are you using?
13:57 RagnarLaud what do you mean by that?
13:58 Darkbee You're testing a website on your computer?  You have to run a web server on yoru computer to do that.
13:58 RagnarLaud im just running the index.html, there i put a link to the index.php (in ./forum/) and when i click it, it starts downloading it
13:58 Darkbee something like XAMPP
13:58 RagnarLaud idk what r u talking about...
13:58 jin_xi http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081226121136AAhJyfA
13:58 moltenbot jin_xi's link: How to get php to be run locally on web browser? - Yahoo! Answers
13:59 Darkbee Your computer doesn't know what to do with the PHP file so it just treats it l ike a text file and tries to download it.
13:59 RagnarLaud wait i just found an answer to my questions!
13:59 RagnarLaud im gonna auto-install a forum :D
14:00 RagnarLaud whats better, phpBB or punBB
14:00 Darkbee I have no experience of either.
14:00 Darkbee I think phpBB is more popular.  Maybe
14:00 RagnarLaud ok
14:02 Darkbee You can test something like phpBB on yoru computer without putting on the Internet but you need a web server (with PHP support) running on your computer first, like Jin's link explains.
14:02 RagnarLaud well i think i got it...testing
14:04 VanessaE now for a bit of on-topic chat:  What would cause a server to start spinning at 100% CPU, but only while a player is logged in - map generator/loader stops working, but the server still responds quite snappily to commands?
14:04 VanessaE (when everyone was logged out, it dropped to ~5% CPU)
14:04 VanessaE (or less)
14:04 KikaRz lol
14:05 VanessaE clearly it isn't a mod, or the server would not respond to commands (or so I gather),...so what's the cause?
14:06 Darkbee I'd have to take a really wild stab in the dark at that one... no idea... conflicting process vying for resources?
14:06 Darkbee accidentally have two instances of the server running?
14:06 VanessaE I doubt it - one of the two would exit, failing to bind to the port
14:07 RagnarLaud VanessaE im making a forum :D
14:07 RagnarLaud yay :D
14:07 VanessaE also:  the screen goes its usual grey when the map generator/loader is stalled out - even if you're in an area that has long since been generated (e.g the spawn)
14:08 jin_xi more hueg tree: http://i.imgur.com/zGwhR.jpg
14:08 Darkbee can you reproduce on another machine?  corrupt files?
14:08 KikaRz Peoeple
14:08 Darkbee I saw a tree with a sand block in it last night.  :S
14:08 KikaRz how i know my vps's IP?
14:09 VanessaE Darkbee: only one machine that can run MT as a server, and definitely not - I rebuild and re-install the server frequently as new updates are released.
14:09 VanessaE KikaRz: ifconfig
14:09 KikaRz if or ip ?
14:09 Darkbee ip
14:09 RagnarLaud lol :D
14:09 RagnarLaud thats for windows
14:09 RagnarLaud i think -.-
14:09 RagnarLaud PROVE ME WRONG
14:09 RagnarLaud :D
14:09 VanessaE celeron55: I realize the mapgen/loader gets stuck from time to time, but fwiw this persisted for about 4 hours (someone reported via the chat log that the mapgen died)
14:09 KikaRz Darkbee
14:10 KikaRz ipconfig in windows
14:10 KikaRz ifconfig in linux
14:10 Darkbee yes, for windows. sorry.
14:10 VanessaE celeron55: isn't there anything that can be done short of periodic restarts?  (Redcrab does this, once a night)
14:10 Darkbee anyway.. I have to go... just wanted to report my issue resolved fwiw.
14:10 VanessaE jin_xi: beautiful tree
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14:19 jin_xi VanessaE: its quite fun to experiment with treegen
14:22 RagnarLaud jin_xi
14:22 RagnarLaud PunBB has just killed PhpBB
14:22 RagnarLaud IM PICKING PUNBB
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14:34 VanessaE zzz
14:34 Garp Thanks for your answers to my question. (I didnt read, was away)
14:35 Garp But this error "Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player
14:35 Garp " appends when I try to connect a client. The client just never connect
14:36 VanessaE did the client disconnect un-gracefully shortly before that?  i.e.a client crash?
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14:36 Garp VanessaE: no, the client attempt to connect, and stay waiting for the connection, teh server display the message.
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14:37 VanessaE weird.
14:37 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:37 Garp I saw something related to ipv6, but couldnt conclude
14:37 VanessaE PilzAdam:  ah I've been waiting for you.  Weird carts bug: sometimes they turn "inside out" when placed.
14:37 VanessaE also hi :-)
14:37 PilzAdam noticed that too
14:37 VanessaE Garp: no clue on that.
14:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, aks Taoki
14:37 PilzAdam *ask
14:37 Garp VanessaE: thanks anyway.
14:38 RagnarLaud hi PilzAdam
14:38 RagnarLaud im making a website
14:38 RagnarLaud would you look at that :/
14:40 VanessaE Garp: sorry I couldn't be more helpful
14:41 RagnarLaud hey VanessaE
14:41 VanessaE hm?
14:41 RagnarLaud i heard you like 404
14:41 RagnarLaud so i added some 404 on the 404 not found page
14:42 VanessaE so I put a 503 in your 404 so you can lose your service while your file is not found :-)
14:42 RagnarLaud WHAT?!
14:42 VanessaE if you don't know what error 503 is yet, you need to learn more before you start a web server :-)
14:43 VanessaE (503: service unavailable, usually means the server is overloaded/out of bandwidth)
14:44 RagnarLaud oh ok
14:44 RagnarLaud t4ti
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14:44 VanessaE t4ti?
14:45 RagnarLaud thanks 4 the info -.-
14:45 VanessaE oh
14:45 VanessaE that's a new one on me.
14:46 RagnarLaud oh ok
14:46 RagnarLaud i just made that up btw
14:46 VanessaE actually, you didn't :-)
14:46 RagnarLaud VanessaE do you know how to make html make an image just as big as the web browser?
14:46 RagnarLaud i kinda did...
14:47 VanessaE urban dictionary has a listing for the abbreviation, but it means something different.
14:47 RagnarLaud really?
14:47 RagnarLaud oh ok
14:47 VanessaE RagnarLaud: no idea off the top of my head.
14:47 RagnarLaud well is it possible?
14:47 RagnarLaud ok
14:47 VanessaE it's possible with javascript
14:47 VanessaE I've done something similar, but not exactly the same
14:47 VanessaE I just don't remember the code anymore
14:48 RagnarLaud oh ok
14:48 RagnarLaud im just gonna make the game 1000x1000 pxl
14:48 VanessaE no
14:48 VanessaE do it right
14:49 VanessaE 1000x1000 won't fill most people's screens
14:49 VanessaE (most are probably 1280x1024 or 1920x1080)
14:50 RagnarLaud its not to fill the whole screen...
14:50 RagnarLaud but most of it :D
14:50 RagnarLaud hey how do i change the size in html?
14:50 thexyz RagnarLaud: width:100%, height:100%
14:50 RagnarLaud i dont remember :D
14:50 RagnarLaud oh thanks!
14:50 thexyz in css
14:50 RagnarLaud oh... -.-
14:50 RagnarLaud i ment html...
14:50 RagnarLaud i just need 1 image to cover the whole screen
14:51 RagnarLaud im making a 404 not found screen...
14:51 RagnarLaud i got the image, but its small...
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14:51 VanessaE you'd be better off having 3 or 4 copies of the image and using a little javascript to serve up the right one depending on screen resolution
14:52 VanessaE or going with svg if you can
14:52 VanessaE RagnarLaud: rule #1 when serving images:  don't start with a small image and scale up - it'll look butt ugly.   Find the original size image and scale it *down*, and only if you need to.
14:53 RagnarLaud i know it will look butt ugly :D
14:53 RagnarLaud thats the whole point of it
14:53 VanessaE rule #2, don't use GIF unless you have no choice. :-)
14:53 jin_xi gifs are good for cats
14:53 VanessaE rule #3, see rules 1 and 2. :D
14:53 RagnarLaud i use jpeg
14:53 RagnarLaud and rune 4?
14:53 RagnarLaud see rule 3?
14:53 thexyz use png
14:54 RagnarLaud i use jpeg
14:54 thexyz is rule 4
14:54 VanessaE rule #4: don't use jpg if the image doesn't compress visibly well - use png.  see also, rules 1 and 2.
14:54 Garp thexyz: width and height are also properties of the <img> tag, even if discouraged for pure css styles.
14:54 VanessaE you know what?  fuck pure css - there's nothing wrong with using HTML to accomplish a given task if it'll work. :-)
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14:54 RagnarLaud yeah!
14:55 thexyz Garp: but in <img> it can only be pixels
14:55 RagnarLaud :D
14:55 Garp rule whatever: dont bloat small bandwidth with some 100kB image that just say '404' if you can avoid.
14:55 Garp thexyz: non % are acceptable too
14:55 sokomine hi everyone
14:56 sokomine do you know of a way of using formspecs with npc? they do call the function on_rightclick which is helpful. but in this case calling the display of a formspec from withhin that function would be helpful
14:56 VanessaE mornin' sokomine
14:57 RagnarLaud http://HVGaming.bugs3.com/sakjdal
14:57 RagnarLaud go there VanessaE
14:57 thexyz oh, i was wrong
14:57 VanessaE ew.
14:57 RagnarLaud :D
14:57 VanessaE you violated rule #4 bigtime
14:57 VanessaE and that meme is so old it's no longer funny
14:57 VanessaE find a new one :-)
14:57 RagnarLaud THATS WHY YOU DONT WANT TO FIND SOMETHING THAT ISNT THERE!
14:58 Garp <p><img src="http://ompldr.org/vZ3Fzeg/index.jpeg" alt="404 Not Found" width="1000" height="750" /></p>
14:58 VanessaE besides, you also violated the meme itself :-)
14:58 Garp <p><img src="http://ompldr.org/vZ3Fzeg/index.jpeg" alt="404 Not Found" width="100%" height="100%" /></p>
14:58 Garp would be simple and would work
14:58 VanessaE it's "you dawg, I heard you like X, so I put some X in your X so you can Y while you Y."  For one noun X and one verb Y.
14:58 thexyz +awful
14:58 VanessaE exactly that form or U FAIL IT.
14:58 VanessaE :-)
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15:02 RagnarLaud http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Yo+dawg+I+heard+you+like+chests_12d4ec_3638698.jpg
15:04 Garp I've never been able to put a chest ull of something in another chest.
15:05 RagnarLaud ikr
15:05 RagnarLaud yo dawg, i heard you like Mac's
15:05 jin_xi need to craft a super chest out of 8 chests arranged like wood for a chest
15:06 RagnarLaud so i put only 1 pedal in your car!
15:07 RagnarLaud yo dawg
15:07 RagnarLaud i heard you like penis, so i put a penis in your penis so you could penis while you penis
15:08 Garp I've anyway be quite amazed by the mass a single person can carry on her back in minetest ;) If a cubic meter of stone would weight about 3000kg, and we can carry 99 of them in a single cell and there are about 40 of them or something like that... We' a several thousands of tons of material...
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15:09 RagnarLaud yo Garp, i heard you like macs, so i broke all the windows in yo house
15:09 sokomine garp: there's a secret about all these blocks :)
15:09 Garp sokomine: which one ?
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15:09 * sokomine mumbles something about blocks beeing hollow and deflatable :)
15:10 Garp hehe :) they are hollow, I'm sure, it's just surface texture, not volumic ones ;)
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15:11 RagnarLaud yo VanessaE i heard you like dreams...
15:11 sokomine right :-) and the surface texture is very thin. so you can deflate/fold them :)
15:11 RagnarLaud but arent u thinking u taking it 2 far?
15:11 sokomine (if you want an explanatin. you could as well say that realism is unheard of :-))
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15:11 Garp RagnarLaud: macintoshes are pretty wonderful, like many dangerous things ;)
15:11 Garp sokomine: that may explain :)
15:12 sokomine and you can't dig up a full chest; thus you can't place a full chest anywhere
15:12 RagnarLaud http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/506654/yo-dawg-yo-yos.jpg
15:12 RagnarLaud BEST
15:12 Garp sokomine: yes, that's what I concluded
15:12 RagnarLaud XZIBIT
15:12 RagnarLaud MEME
15:12 RagnarLaud EVER
15:12 sokomine jinxi: and what's the problem with that?
15:12 jin_xi wut?
15:14 sokomine you asked about a super chest? or was that just an answer to garp? :-)
15:14 jin_xi yep, fail troll answer
15:15 RagnarLaud hey jin_xi
15:15 sokomine no-one has an idea about showing formspecs to a player in on_rightclick or other function? :-(
15:15 sokomine aah :-) ok
15:15 RagnarLaud yo dawg, i heard you like driving, so i put a video game in your car, so you can crash while you crash
15:16 KikaRz guys
15:16 KikaRz who knows installing Twisted in Debian?
15:17 Garp Is there a tchat systme between players in minetest? How does it work? I found references to some, but not much about how it works
15:20 RagnarLaud KikaRz
15:20 RagnarLaud http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/506654/yo-dawg-yo-yos.jpg
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15:26 RagnarLaud VanessaE
15:26 RagnarLaud jin_xi
15:26 RagnarLaud somebody
15:26 RagnarLaud please help me!
15:26 * jin_xi helps RagnarLaud
15:27 VanessaE with your web server?  you're best off asking elsewhere about that.
15:27 RagnarLaud how do i apply a css template?
15:27 VanessaE RagnarLaud: please go ask this stuff in a more appropriate channel/.
15:28 RagnarLaud ok :(
15:28 RagnarLaud wait theres a html code in there -.-
15:28 RagnarLaud YAY
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15:29 RealBadAngel hi
15:29 jin_xi hey RealBadAngel
15:29 jin_xi Been playing with your treegen a lot
15:29 jin_xi very impressive trees
15:30 jin_xi check this one: http://i.imgur.com/zGwhR.jpg
15:31 RealBadAngel wow, nice one
15:31 jin_xi or this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57769#p57769
15:31 moltenbot jin_xi's link: [Fun] Post your screenshots! (Page 34) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
15:31 jin_xi they are huge tho
15:32 sokomine hi realbadangel
15:32 RealBadAngel hi
15:32 RealBadAngel 2nd one is also nice, almost like a palm
15:32 sokomine wow! impressive tree
15:32 RealBadAngel i will finish in day or two c++ version of it
15:32 KikaRz TropiCraft.
15:33 RealBadAngel so it will be way faster
15:33 RealBadAngel and also will add more commands
15:33 jin_xi cool, try the rule from second one yourself, takes looong
15:33 RealBadAngel there are quite a few not yet implemented
15:33 sokomine c++-version? can it be integrated into the game itshelf?
15:33 jin_xi yes, but i think its very promising
15:34 jin_xi also i think lsystem can be used to procedurally make buildings and maybe cities too
15:34 PilzAdam sokomine, it *has* to be integrated into the game!
15:34 jin_xi and clouds
15:34 jin_xi rivers
15:35 jin_xi so i'm really excited about it
15:35 RagnarLaud RealBadAngel
15:35 RagnarLaud help me?
15:41 RealBadAngel with what/
15:42 RealBadAngel jin_xi l-systems are mostly used to generate plantlikes
15:42 jin_xi ok
15:42 RealBadAngel but seen usage of them to make clouds too
15:43 jin_xi but i think if 2d rivers could work too
15:45 jin_xi well, googling for lsystem and city brings up quite a bit
15:45 jin_xi road generation, but also floor plans, buildings and such
15:46 jin_xi i'll try anyway ;)
15:50 sokomine new trees are always nice :-) on singleplayer, i do prefer those mods that make nature more intresting
15:52 sokomine i want players to build the towns. players are good at that. and it's the thing that makes minetest fun
15:52 RealBadAngel they make game lookin tottally different
15:52 jin_xi sorry, gotta go
15:52 VanessaE sokomine: you haven't been on my server lately :(
15:52 jin_xi later all
15:53 KikaRz how to run a .py file in a vps?
15:53 KikaRz can you tell me VanessaE?
15:53 KikaRz or RealBadAngel
15:53 VanessaE python filename.py
15:53 VanessaE or edit the file and specify #!/usr/bin/python  (or similar) as the first line
15:53 RealBadAngel idk
15:54 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, the best thing about the new trees is that it adds a new aspect to the gameplay
15:54 KikaRz fail
15:54 sokomine vanessae: i tried. it somehow didn't work. either it was all totally dark or totally empty or only some chunks got loaded :-(
15:55 Garp Just a questioon: when we cut tree branches, do they regrow again ?
15:55 RealBadAngel no
15:55 RealBadAngel but it could be done
15:55 VanessaE sokomine: this morning the mapgen hung up, but the server has finally stopped crashing
15:56 VanessaE sokomine: so try again :-)   vanessae.mine.bz:30000
15:56 sokomine cutting up a very high tree might be difficult. i saw it with jungletrees (that special mod that adds 4-tree-thick jungletrees with very decorative leaves). the timber mod worked partly...until there was a leaf-block inbetween tree-blocks
15:57 Garp RealBadAngel: that would be a good idea, I think. Even if I dont really understand what is the good balance of realism vs fantasy in such a game.
15:57 sokomine vanessae: later on :-) don't have long enough time right now
15:57 PilzAdam sokomine, thats the gameplay aspect i was talking about
15:57 Garp sokomine: shouldnt a tree cut at its base fall down ?
15:57 sokomine ah, ok
15:57 KikaRz forgot pysqlite
15:57 KikaRz :(
15:57 RealBadAngel takin down the tree shouldnt be easy
15:58 RealBadAngel go outside and try to chop down old oak
15:58 sokomine then most people will cut off that part that is easy and we'll have the crown floating above the land...
15:58 PilzAdam with your hand
15:58 sokomine :-)
15:58 PilzAdam the trees shouldnt be too realistic
15:59 PilzAdam remember, its still a world based on cubes
15:59 Garp sokomine: the node world is a very smart idea, but obvious things are very hard to implement with that paradigm
15:59 RealBadAngel of, course, but thanks to axioms trees can be fully customizable
15:59 sokomine good-looking trees are a plus, though. as long as they are very sparsely used. maybe "crafted" by the player somehow. or if the player gives the tree minerals
15:59 Garp like rotations.
16:00 sokomine yes, that's a problem
16:00 Garp so having a "falling tree" looks almost impossible
16:00 KikaRz VanessaE
16:00 KikaRz how to extract a tar gz ?
16:00 Garp tar zxvf myfile.tar.gz
16:00 sokomine i thought of falling trees as well. if there is enough free space...it might partly work
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16:00 RealBadAngel or use archive manager just
16:00 PilzAdam -1 for falling trees
16:01 Garp sokomine: how do you rotate the trunk? It could baybe behave like sand: just go down verically
16:01 sokomine every tree ought to supply horizontal tree-blocks for his...er...tree-parts :-)
16:01 RealBadAngel this is voxel world, such things do not fit it
16:01 RealBadAngel that can be easily done
16:01 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, the best would be to just implement the trees as you currently have, maybe some different axioms
16:02 PilzAdam no extra features
16:02 sokomine oh, i don't know. the timber-mod is very practical for actual aquiring of tree. but if a npc would fell a tree that would look rather stupid. plus they'd have to be slower than players. thus, if an npc fells a tree, it would be a plus if the tree would be lying on the ground
16:02 RealBadAngel c++ code wont carry any axioms
16:02 RealBadAngel they gonna be passed to the generator from lua
16:02 Garp How, btw while we're talking about physics...
16:03 Garp I spent quite some time to get an underground river to fall on a lava lake, hoping to enjoy a very nice spectacle... and nothing happened :(
16:03 RealBadAngel or from a worldgen if some1 decides to use them (im pointin hmmm)
16:04 RealBadAngel since hes coding new worldgen
16:04 sokomine will your tree-code be genal enough for all the diffrent kind of trees out there? some trees just add other nodes or fruits instead of some leaves; that could be done with a general function. large jungletrees and conifers have diffrent algorithms
16:04 PilzAdam sokomine, RBA's code is based on axioms, so that every kind of tree is possible
16:05 sokomine garp: there's a mod that adds obsidian. i believe it follows the water+lava->obsidian paradigm
16:05 sokomine that's good
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16:05 RealBadAngel adding fruits, horizontal branches are things that could be done
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16:05 Garp sokomine: water+lava should first give a tremendous explosion
16:05 RealBadAngel so i could add more axiom elements
16:05 sokomine how about ore generation? that might be another thing which might wander into the c++-part
16:06 RealBadAngel ask hmmm bout it
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16:06 RealBadAngel im doing just trees
16:06 Zeg9 Hey there
16:06 KikaRz VanessaE
16:06 KikaRz I got
16:06 KikaRz /usr/local/include/python2.7/stringobject.h:63: note: expected 'const char *' but argument is of type 'int'
16:06 KikaRz error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
16:06 KikaRz when installing pysqlite
16:07 sokomine garp: better not :-) think about people playing with them...there'd be a lot of explosions :-( and steam
16:07 RealBadAngel http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5921947/pyaudio-installation-error-command-gcc-failed-with-exit-status-1
16:07 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: python - Pyaudio installation error - 'command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1' - Stack Overflow
16:08 sokomine well, trees are good. i'm looking forward to them :-)
16:08 KikaRz total different RealBadAngel
16:08 KikaRz thats pyaudio
16:08 KikaRz i want pysqlite
16:08 KikaRz xd
16:08 RealBadAngel same error
16:08 RealBadAngel look at solution
16:08 Garp sokomine: lava is between 1000-1300°C, meeting water at sea-level atmospheric preasure should create lot of steam. 1 block of water cnverst to about 1000 blocks of steam, at deadly temperature, and exploding everything that try to contain it.
16:08 RealBadAngel maybe you should follow same way
16:09 KikaRz no
16:09 KikaRz im in VPS
16:09 KikaRz shell / PuTTY
16:09 PilzAdam Garp, be sure to be not too realistic ;-)
16:10 KikaRz so, whats the solution RealBadAngel?
16:10 RealBadAngel reinstalling pysqlite?
16:10 KikaRz ...
16:10 KikaRz im installing it
16:10 KikaRz and i cant
16:10 KikaRz -.-
16:10 Garp PilzAdam: well, I though to some "steam source" begin created at contact, with maybe 2 or 3 lava states: hot lava contact water: steam, and "less hot" lava block conversion. If water still on some "less hot" lava convert to cold solid
16:11 Garp PilzAdam: steam would be managed like a liquid
16:11 RealBadAngel from error log i see youre tryin to compile  something
16:11 Garp OK? I know, that's a bit too much ;)
16:11 RealBadAngel and it looks like installation of some libraries are fucked up
16:11 RealBadAngel reinstall them all
16:12 KikaRz Going to see
16:12 KikaRz I CANT!
16:12 PilzAdam Garp, go to the realtest author ;-)
16:12 KikaRz pastebinning...
16:12 Garp PilzAdam: lol, for sure, reality is far more complex than what we can simulate.
16:13 RealBadAngel sudo apt-get install python-sqlite
16:13 RealBadAngel try this way
16:14 KikaRz http://pastebin.com/Dn5QnYEU
16:14 moltenbot KikaRz's link: [Bash]   root@kikarz1vps:~/pysqlite-2.6.3# python setup.py install                      - Pastebin.com
16:14 KikaRz not finded
16:15 KikaRz OOOH!
16:15 KikaRz WORKS!
16:15 KikaRz THANK YOU MY ANGEL!
16:15 RealBadAngel lol, no problemo
16:16 KikaRz SAME PROBLEM
16:16 KikaRz http://pastebin.com/kSEndnTV
16:16 moltenbot KikaRz's link: [Python] root@kikarz1vps:~/miceserver# python transformiceserver.py  Traceback (most rece - Pastebin.com
16:17 RealBadAngel sudo apt-get install python-sqlite3
16:17 RealBadAngel maybe?
16:17 KikaRz Nope
16:18 KikaRz Unable to locate package python-sqlite3
16:18 RealBadAngel try to find all sqlite packages in app manager
16:18 KikaRz VPS.
16:18 KikaRz Putty / SSL
16:19 RealBadAngel i cannot do that because im not on ubuntu
16:20 KikaRz Ah!
16:20 KikaRz guess i need
16:20 KikaRz libsqlite3-dev
16:20 KikaRz yea
16:20 KikaRz ‎must be
16:20 KikaRz no
16:21 KikaRz still giving error
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16:22 RealBadAngel same?
16:22 KikaRz Yea.
16:23 RealBadAngel wowsers
16:24 RealBadAngel googlin for "pysqllite3" gives ONE result ;)
16:24 KikaRz sqlite-devel
16:24 KikaRz i think
16:24 RealBadAngel notice the typo btw ;)
16:24 KikaRz No.
16:24 KikaRz not working
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16:26 RealBadAngel http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-May/230303.html
16:26 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link:  Enable Sqlite3 module in python
16:26 RealBadAngel try this solution
16:28 KikaRz Thats FreeBSD
16:28 KikaRz not Debian
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16:30 KikaRz installing sqlite3
16:30 KikaRz not worked :'(
16:30 KikaRz i'm getting angry and sad :(
16:31 thexyz !g python sqlite debian
16:31 Minetest-tan thexyz: http://packages.debian.org/python-sqlite
16:31 KikaRz Install databases/py-sqlite3, how to install?
16:33 KikaRz :(
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16:34 KikaRz i can't >>> import sqlite3
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16:35 KikaRz ImportError: No module named _sqlite3
16:35 sfan5 KikaRz: you installed it wrong
16:36 KikaRz no i didnt
16:36 KikaRz I'm tired.
16:36 sfan5 how did you install it?
16:37 KikaRz wget python.org/ftp/.../Python-2.7.2.tgz
16:37 KikaRz next
16:37 KikaRz tar -xzf
16:37 KikaRz then cd Python-2.7.2
16:37 KikaRz ./configure
16:38 KikaRz and then sudo apt-get python2.7
16:38 RealBadAngel To install the port: cd /usr/ports/databases/sqlite3/ && make install clean
16:38 RealBadAngel To add the package: pkg_add -r sqlite3
16:38 sfan5 KikaRz: that makes no sense
16:38 KikaRz i know
16:38 KikaRz i was without anything to configure it
16:38 thexyz KikaRz: (20:30:14) Minetest-tan: thexyz: http://packages.debian.org/python-sqlite
16:38 moltenbot thexyz's link: Debian -- Package Search Results -- python-sqlite
16:38 KikaRz and cmake make i
16:38 thexyz you shouldn't install packages from source
16:38 sfan5 you download the python sources configure them and then you install the precompiled package
16:39 KikaRz thexyz, that dont work
16:39 RealBadAngel she had pysqlite already
16:39 sfan5 KikaRz: which linux distro do you use?
16:39 RealBadAngel but pyslite3 is missing
16:39 KikaRz debian
16:39 KikaRz Sistema OperacionalDebian 6 32bit
16:40 KikaRz Sistema Operacional = Operating System
16:40 KikaRz RealBadAngel
16:40 sfan5 try su -c "apt-get install python-sqlite"
16:40 KikaRz no i dont
16:40 KikaRz root@kikarz1vps:~/miceserver# cd /usr/ports/databases/sqlite3 && make install clean
16:40 KikaRz -bash: cd: /usr/ports/databases/sqlite3: No such file or directory
16:40 RealBadAngel http://www.freshports.org/databases/py-sqlite3
16:40 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: FreshPorts -- databases/py-sqlite3
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16:41 KikaRz what i do with that site, RealBadAngel
16:41 RealBadAngel dunno :) read it/
16:41 RealBadAngel ?
16:42 KikaRz how to download it?
16:43 RealBadAngel pkg_add -r py27-sqlite3
16:43 RealBadAngel tried this?
16:44 KikaRz -bash: pkg_add: command not found
16:44 KikaRz RealBadAngel
16:44 KikaRz you on which OS?
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16:46 RealBadAngel squeeze
16:46 KikaRz debian?
16:46 RealBadAngel yes
16:46 KikaRz my vps got squeeze
16:46 KikaRz can you go query?
16:47 marktraceur KikaRz: Did you try sfan5's suggestion?
16:48 KikaRz dont works
16:48 sfan5 whats the output?
16:49 marktraceur KikaRz: Use a pastebin, please
16:49 KikaRz fuck
16:49 KikaRz wait!
16:49 KikaRz my pc its lagging!!!
16:50 KikaRz PSY was 2012's Internet breakout star as Gangnam Style approached 1 billion views and became YouTube's most-watched video of all time in just 6 months
16:51 NakedFury it just needs 37 million more to reach 1 billion
16:51 KikaRz Yea!
16:51 sfan5 KikaRz: can you paste the output of 'su -c "apt-get install python-sqlite"'?
16:51 KikaRz Fuck this PC
16:51 KikaRz sfan5, i already installed
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16:53 RealBadAngel sfan5 it doesnt come with database port sqlite3
16:53 RealBadAngel she already installed python-sqlite module
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16:54 KikaRz FUCK THIS GOOGLE CHROME!
16:54 VanessaE use firefox :-)
16:54 RealBadAngel sfan5, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-May/230303.html
16:54 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link:  Enable Sqlite3 module in python
16:54 KikaRz VanessaE
16:54 KikaRz i use Firefox
16:54 RealBadAngel question is how
16:54 VanessaE good :-)
16:54 Jordach CHROME FTW
16:54 VanessaE fuck chrome :-)
16:55 Jordach firefox leaks memory like a hole in a bucket
16:55 RealBadAngel better the hole than a niagara falls in IE
16:56 KikaRz lol
16:56 KikaRz John, it's dead!
16:56 Jordach RealBadAngel, yeah
16:56 KikaRz RealBadAngel, ID and pass on query
16:56 KikaRz It's the 8.
16:56 Jordach KikaRz, did you mean: It's dead Jim! ?
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16:57 KikaRz Yep.
16:57 KikaRz xd
17:00 Calinou so apt-get upgrade says:
17:00 Calinou Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour :  linux-generic linux-libc-dev
17:00 Calinou seems legit
17:00 Calinou libc upgrades ftw
17:02 KikaRz ??
17:02 KikaRz what?
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17:04 markveidemanis hi
17:04 KikaRz RealBadAngel, take the niagara to other place and come to query
17:06 Calinou joined #minetest
17:06 Calinou xchat
17:06 Calinou y u disappear from tray
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17:08 KikaRz Haha! Calinou is disappearing!
17:09 OldCoder Hi
17:10 PilzAdam marktraceur is OP?
17:10 OldCoder PilzAdam, PM
17:11 RealBadAngel i wonder just about one thing
17:11 RealBadAngel default trees shall be renamed after L-systems once or rename in mapgen to default:bush? ;)
17:11 thexyz OldCoder: has c55 approved this?
17:12 RealBadAngel *deleted
17:13 markveidemanis who thin
17:13 markveidemanis k##
17:13 markveidemanis who thinks they are a good builder/architect?
17:13 KikaRz bush?
17:13 KikaRz George W. Bush ?
17:13 KikaRz XD
17:14 Calinou wtf, with assaultcube I get higher FPS when compsoting is enabled when having 16x AA
17:14 Calinou compositing*
17:15 markveidemanis who can make me an entity mod?
17:16 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4134
17:16 moltenbot VanessaE's link: Proposal:  Change the behavior of Mese (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
17:16 VanessaE please all vote on this strawpoll
17:16 VanessaE I need stats.
17:17 Jordach can i has proxy abuse?
17:17 OldCoder thexyz, Yes. Last night. PM
17:17 VanessaE er, well I can't do much about proxies, I don't run the service on which that poll runs
17:20 markveidemanis !define hello
17:20 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: hello definition: an expression or gesture of greeting —used interjectionally in greeting, in answering the telephone, or to express surprise.
17:21 Calinou !define markveidemanis
17:21 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
17:21 Calinou !define thinking
17:21 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: thinking definition: the action of using one's mind to produce thoughts.
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17:22 john_minetest Hello
17:22 Calinou hi
17:22 Calinou O_o default program for .conf files is libreoffice
17:22 VanessaE john_minetest, OldCoder:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4134
17:22 moltenbot VanessaE's link: Proposal:  Change the behavior of Mese (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
17:22 Calinou I tried to open my minetest.conf :P
17:22 VanessaE oh shut up you stupid bot
17:23 Calinou VanessaE: I voted about lumps/ingots
17:23 VanessaE ok
17:23 Calinou lol'd at the last option
17:23 VanessaE the last option was supposed to be a Cowboy-Neal-esque option as seen in slashdot pools :-)
17:23 OldCoder I will review
17:24 VanessaE polls*
17:24 markveidemanis !define minetest-tan
17:24 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
17:25 markveidemanis !define moltenbot
17:25 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
17:26 VanessaE shit and I misspelled vers[a]tile :-/
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17:39 marktraceur PilzAdam: What's up?
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17:39 KikaRz !define boring
17:39 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: boring definition: causing boredom.
17:39 PilzAdam marktraceur, BF 3
17:39 KikaRz marveidemanis, that you doing its causing boredom
17:40 marktraceur PilzAdam: Fair 'nuff
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17:40 celeron55 no kickban because of proprietary? 8)
17:41 PilzAdam You may ban me when I tell you that i play it on the XBox 360
17:41 * celeron55 loves pointy jokes
17:41 marktraceur celeron55: :)
17:41 * Jordach high fives PilzAdam for using a 360
17:41 marktraceur celeron55: Not to worry, I'm not so fast and loose with authourity. With great power comes great cupcakes.
17:41 kaeza joined #minetest
17:41 Jordach Evil beware, we have waffles.
17:41 kaeza hi!
17:41 celeron55 marktraceur: i was fine with giving you +o because i know you are quite liberal
17:42 kaeza good afternoon channel!
17:42 Calinou oh no, BSD^H^H^H^H WTFPL will be opped
17:43 KikaRz good morning kaeza
17:43 kaeza hey KikaRz
17:43 kaeza what's up?
17:43 KikaRz tired.
17:43 KikaRz trying to make the fucking python to work
17:44 KikaRz RealBadAngel, passed 5 minutes.
17:44 marktraceur celeron55: I assure you, I may be rather interested in voicing my opinion, but I'm just as interested in others voicing theirs. Op status isn't some political soapbox, nobody here should be worried unless they're doing something clearly bad.
17:44 kaeza KikaRz: what's the issue?
17:44 KikaRz _sqlite3.
17:47 KikaRz make can't be faster?
17:48 marktraceur KikaRz: It's mostly limited by your hardware, so....no, probably not
17:48 markveidemanis p
17:49 marktraceur markveidemanis: q
17:49 Calinou r
17:49 PilzAdam s
17:49 marktraceur All right all right I'm sorry I encouraged this
17:51 * Calinou waits for ragnar saying "t"
17:51 Calinou he's not here :>
17:57 Minetest-tan GIT: sfan5 (sfan5) commited to celeron55/minetest: Tweak CMake files for cURL 05b58501f2 2012-12-18T09:52:56-08:00
17:57 sfan5 yay
17:57 Calinou curls!
17:59 markveidemanis my server has irc mod, anyone wanna come on?
17:59 kaeza hello sfan5
17:59 markveidemanis address: click my name, the whois
17:59 markveidemanis port:30000
17:59 sfan5 hi kaeza
18:00 marktraceur markveidemanis: You're in here very frequently advertising your server, is there some reason you're here today in particular?
18:01 markveidemanis i have the irc mod and was wondering if anyone would like to see it working on my server
18:01 marktraceur markveidemanis: And that's a new development? I think I've seen you using the IRC mod before.
18:01 markveidemanis yep
18:02 marktraceur markveidemanis: "yep[, I've used it before]"?
18:02 markveidemanis yep
18:02 markveidemanis :)
18:03 marktraceur Then please advertise on the forums, announce here for changes.
18:03 marktraceur Only if there are people here who are affected by your changes, though. If your server has no residents, or none of them are in attendance, just use the forum.
18:03 markveidemanis its not always on and ip changes
18:04 VanessaE markveidemanis: http://freedns.afraid.org/
18:04 moltenbot VanessaE's link: FreeDNS - Free DNS - Dynamic DNS - Static DNS subdomain and domain hosting
18:04 kaeza markveidemanis: we still need to fix a few issues
18:04 VanessaE that'll help with the dynamic IP.
18:04 PilzAdam VanessaE, tips to get the mese patch merged: http://youtu.be/0YOh-rpvjYg
18:04 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Family Guy - Undecided Voters - YouTube
18:05 VanessaE PilzAdam: eh..  no audio right now, I'm listening to music.  Undecided voters appear not to be a problem though.
18:06 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57942#p57942
18:06 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Proposal:  Change the behavior of Mese (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:06 kaeza PilzAdam: lol
18:06 kaeza I love family guy
18:07 * Jordach finally wired a super safe reactor up in tekkit
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18:15 KikaRz now having problems with
18:15 KikaRz E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
18:15 kaeza1 ?
18:15 KikaRz :(
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18:16 rubenwardy hi all
18:16 kaeza1 hi rubenwardy
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18:17 Penguin_ hi
18:17 KikaRz FUCK THIS!
18:17 KikaRz :@@
18:17 Penguin_ wha
18:17 KikaRz HATE THIS PYTHON!
18:18 mauvebic whats wrong?
18:18 KikaRz AGAIN! THE STUPID _SQLITE
18:18 kaeza1 KikaRz: pastebin the code or the error
18:18 KikaRz ImportError: No module named _sqlite3
18:18 KikaRz ALREADY
18:18 kaeza1 install sqlite then
18:18 KikaRz ALREADY
18:19 KikaRz NOT THAT PROBLEM
18:19 kaeza1 windows?
18:19 mauvebic yeah python is a bitch when it comes to importing modules lol
18:19 KikaRz linux
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18:19 mauvebic especially in linux, the modules seem to change names from dist to the next
18:20 mauvebic try a dist specific search for your module
18:20 mauvebic i went through 5 python spiders before coming up with enough bits to have a working one lol
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18:21 mauvebic and check with version of python your use (ie #!/usr/bin/env python2)
18:21 rubenwardy hi
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18:22 mauvebic howdy
18:22 berome hi
18:22 KikaRz kaeza1, sorry for pasting that big in query.
18:22 KikaRz 2.7.2
18:23 mauvebic try either
18:23 mauvebic #!/usr/bin/env python
18:23 mauvebic #!/usr/bin/env python3
18:23 mauvebic its stupid but it often solved my problems lol
18:24 mauvebic or with 2 instead of 3
18:30 Zeg9 'later all
18:30 celeron55 mauvebic: you could just run the script explicitly by python or python2 or python3
18:30 celeron55 like python3 foo.py
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18:32 OldCoder kaeza, kaeza1, if you wish to try another pass over IRC mod I can do so tonight
18:32 mauvebic even when calling from lua's os.execute?
18:33 kaeza OldCoder: we seem to have fixed the autoconnect and the flooding
18:33 kaeza but autojoin is having some issues for kizeren right now
18:34 markveidemanis some one plz recommend a mod
18:34 kaeza markveidemanis: IRC, computer :)
18:34 markveidemanis !define IRC
18:34 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: An international computer network of Internet servers, using its own protocol through which individual users can hold real-time online conversations.
18:34 markveidemanis nah
18:34 markveidemanis laggs a lot
18:35 markveidemanis only 16x16 textures
18:35 kaeza my decorative computers uses 32x32
18:35 markveidemanis something similar to the ufo mod?
18:35 markveidemanis something similar to the building_blocks mod?
18:35 kaeza because with 16x16 I cannot provide any detail
18:36 marktraceur markveidemanis: There's a WHOLE FORUM for this sort of thing!
18:36 mauvebic one thing i dont get about python is half their users seem to hate v3 even though i cant tell the difference much lol
18:36 markveidemanis maybe someone is working on a private mod...
18:36 kaeza mauvebic: ditto here
18:36 marktraceur markveidemanis: Then they're probably not interested in telling anyone about it yet, or they would have posted it....where?
18:37 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTCmHC8IuuI&amp;list=PLSTz8jpJdr5q0wKLjV-_pary9NH-i7ODs
18:37 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Interactive Timeline: YouTube Rewind 2012 (Global) - YouTube
18:37 KikaRz :D
18:37 KikaRz so cool
18:37 mauvebic same with php though i learned v3 and apparently 4 and 5 are as bloated as a store-bought windows machine lol
18:37 kaeza lol
18:37 mauvebic though i lost interest when that zend crap got big
18:38 kaeza IMHO v3 brings new features not worth for a major version change
18:38 kaeza it should be 2.8, 2.9, ...
18:38 mauvebic my only concerns is reverse-compat for syntax and modules
18:39 mauvebic unlike macrosoft which supports a different platform every six months lol
18:39 kaeza yeah
18:39 mauvebic all their accreditations make for fancy expensive toilet paper
18:39 kaeza and WinXP progs don't work on Win9X
18:39 kaeza lol
18:39 marktraceur kaeza: The idea is that it breaks backwards compatibility a lot
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18:40 kaeza marktraceur: but not so that required a 2->3 change in numbering IMHO
18:41 mauvebic i care less about version numbers too lol
18:41 mauvebic its mostly in the head
18:41 kaeza what incompatibilities does it introduce?
18:41 kaeza I've run most of my v2 progs in v3 with no probs
18:42 kaeza except maybe for Tkinter-based ones
18:42 mauvebic in the future: when politicians will need a major distraction, they'll throw out a new version number for their policies lol
18:42 kaeza lol
18:42 kizeren There are politicians using github for bills now
18:42 kaeza haven't then been doing than for ages with those "ammendments"?
18:43 kaeza them*
18:43 markveidemanis can i have link to mauvemods plz
18:43 kaeza that*
18:43 mauvebic <markveidemanis> https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/
18:43 moltenbot mauvebic's link: mauvemods
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18:44 kaeza1 I should ditch this 3G thing
18:44 mauvebic 3G?
18:45 kaeza1 wireless modem
18:45 Calinou lol3g
18:45 Calinou the only thing that brings money to ISPs :> too bad
18:45 markveidemanis i quite like 3g, reliable, doesn't crash...
18:45 kaeza1 every now and then it turns on the "Yellow light of death"
18:46 kaeza1 switching to HSPA
18:46 kaeza1 and fucking my connection speed
18:46 markveidemanis HSDPA?
18:46 kizeren We just had an ISP roll in and start putting up 4G towers......
18:46 kizeren Anyone using 4G wireless internet?
18:47 mauvebic only when the DSL aint workin
18:49 kaeza1 I'm stuck with this for this month. I'll try to switch to a better connection next moth
18:49 kaeza1 month*
18:50 kaeza1 kizeren: have you found any clue on the IRC issue?
18:51 markveidemanis is there a server with no mods?
18:52 kaeza1 markveidemanis: I can make one later
18:52 markveidemanis on a vps|
18:52 markveidemanis >?
18:52 kaeza1 direct connection
18:55 sokomine why a server without mods? servers usually need some sort of protection. and the world only gets really intresting with some mods :-) be it those that provide special blocks for buildings, extend nature with plants, supply useful tools or something else...
18:55 rubenwardy no mods = no game
18:55 OldCoder kaeza1, that is excellent news. I will test later
18:55 rubenwardy you mean a server with only defualt game
18:55 rubenwardy fault
18:55 kaeza1 some prefer a clean world
18:56 markveidemanis fust like in 0.3.1.
18:56 markveidemanis #just
18:57 kaeza1 talking about that, someone posted in the forums about making a server for 0.3.1, was that you?
18:57 markveidemanis people were still able to build then, and some of the buildings built then were much better than ones built now
18:57 markveidemanis nah
18:57 markveidemanis 0.4.4
18:57 markveidemanis i like the new graphics of 044
18:57 markveidemanis maybe a few mods...
18:57 markveidemanis can you make a server?
18:58 kaeza1 how about pvp free-for all
18:58 kaeza1 ?
18:58 markveidemanis k
18:58 markveidemanis can i send you my mods?
18:58 kaeza1 rifle + gunmod + armor
18:59 kaeza1 k
18:59 kaeza1 post your mod list first
18:59 kaeza1 I don't wand to download a 30MB file
18:59 kaeza1 want*
19:00 kaeza1 OldCoder: k
19:00 OldCoder markveidemanis, I can host worlds but they need to be interesting
19:00 Jordach RealBadAngel, present?
19:00 OldCoder I am switching to BackupCoder on the bus
19:00 Jordach when did phones support VNC?
19:00 OldCoder Jordach, Hi! Jordach would you like to build some Christmas on one of my worlds using your new mod?
19:01 OldCoder Jordach, He is a bouncer
19:01 OldCoder mrtux can explain later
19:01 Jordach OldCoder, im busy with automated technic
19:01 OldCoder Jordach, O.K. Ask somebody else to do so if they wish
19:01 OldCoder I would love to post an Xmas screenshot
19:01 OldCoder Got to go; people are waiting for me in San Jose. See you when I get on the bus.
19:01 Jordach i have a machine to produce emc, which makes tin + uranium + auto crafting + reactor = free uranium.
19:02 OldCoder Jordach, Sounds fun
19:02 kizeren kaeza1 not really no clue yet.
19:02 OldCoder Boom!
19:02 Jordach and another machine to produce coolant
19:02 OldCoder NakedFury, kaeza1, sokomine anybody else: Like to try Jordach Christmas mod on one of my worlds?
19:02 kaeza1 OldCoder: Sure! IP?
19:03 Jordach hold on five ticks
19:03 kizeren have it installed here at home pretty neat wife likes it
19:03 OldCoder kaeza1, pick any of my worlds; most have it. Jordach will tell you procedure maybe. If it does not work do not worry. See you later!
19:03 kaeza1 thx
19:03 markveidemanis oldcoder - i will send you the modpack
19:03 kaeza1 later Coder
19:03 OldCoder kaeza1, OpenMine has default interact if I have not interacted you. markveidemanis ty
19:04 * OldCoder leaves but will return
19:05 kaeza1 Jordach is OC's server minetest.org?
19:05 Jordach yes
19:05 kaeza1 ok
19:05 kaeza1 port?
19:05 Jordach also, btw, i did implement vertical wiring, but they dont work
19:05 iqualfragile kaeza1: multiple
19:05 kaeza1 Jordach: good
19:05 kaeza1 iqualfragile: thx
19:05 Jordach as in crafting
19:05 iqualfragile up to 7 i think… not shure about that
19:06 iqualfragile look at minetest.org for more information
19:06 kaeza1 iqualfragile: will do
19:06 iqualfragile away playing anno 1602
19:08 rubenwardy bye all
19:08 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vZ3F4NQ/My ModPack.zip
19:08 kaeza1 bye rubenwardy
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19:09 kaeza1 markveidemanis: DL'ing
19:10 kaeza1 markveidemanis: quite an interesting pack
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19:15 sokomine markveidemanis: it depends on people how well they may bild. many can gain better building skills by practising. there are still some good builders around
19:17 sokomine i have some trouble with the stairs though. they are more difficult to place than lines of plain blocks. building a roof with stairs by hand takes significantly longer than with something like worldedit in creative
19:18 sokomine jordach: on which port is your christmas mod installed? does it need further testing?
19:18 Jordach sokomine, it is installed on all servers
19:18 sokomine ah, ok
19:19 sokomine then i'll take calinous world where i already have a mine and a small house
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19:26 BackupCoder kaeza. hi
19:27 kaeza hi BackupCoder
19:27 BackupCoder sokomine you too hey
19:30 sokomine hi backupcoder :-)
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19:32 markveidemanis kaeza1
19:32 markveidemanis is the server done
19:33 kaeza1 not yet
19:33 kaeza1 I'm a bit busy with other project of mine
19:33 markveidemanis link?
19:35 thexyz enjoy brand new http://api.minetest.net/
19:35 moltenbot thexyz's link: Minetest API
19:35 kaeza1 http://cosmorpg.sf.net
19:35 moltenbot kaeza1's link: Legend of Cosmo
19:35 marktraceur Gasp! Sexy, thexyz!
19:35 thexyz it still needs a lot of work
19:36 thexyz so any help is greatly appreciated
19:37 BackupCoder thexyz r
19:37 marktraceur Yes, I'll help work on it this week probably
19:37 markveidemanis oldcoder...
19:37 marktraceur Great stuff
19:37 markveidemanis can you setup an extra server
19:38 thexyz the top priority are functions that register something, like register_node, etc.
19:38 BackupCoder thexyz very nice
19:38 BackupCoder markv if it is interesting only
19:39 markveidemanis i have link...somewhere
19:39 BackupCoder markv this stuff costs me cash
19:40 BackupCoder markveidemanis
19:41 markveidemanis it wont cost as much as other servers, its a no-,mapgen worl
19:41 markveidemanis d
19:42 kaeza1 VanessaE: you here?
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19:45 BackupCoder youlysses hi
19:53 PilzAdam gtg; bye
19:54 BackupCoder c u
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19:58 markveidemanis anyone still have the link for my modpack?
19:59 kaeza1 markveidemanis: yes
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20:00 kaeza1 markveidemanis: http://ompldr.org/vZ3F4NQ/My ModPack.zip
20:00 markveidemanis ty
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20:21 kaeza1 hello jojoa1997
20:21 jojoa1997 back from school finally
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20:27 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/tsRlr.gif
20:29 kaeza hello jordan4ibanez
20:29 kaeza ...interesting
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20:47 RagnarLaud Hi
20:48 RagnarLaud Hi minetest-tan
20:48 Minetest-tan Hello RagnarLaud!
20:48 RagnarLaud Hi moltenbot
20:48 moltenbot hi RagnarLaud
20:50 marktraceur RagnarLaud: It's not really necessary to greet both bots every time you enter the channel :)
20:51 RagnarLaud Im just being a friend.
20:51 RagnarLaud Bots have feelings too
20:52 marktraceur RagnarLaud: I assure you, they don't. Feel free to greet the channel, but five lines of you talking to yourself seems excessive somehow
20:53 RagnarLaud Really?
20:53 RagnarLaud 5 lines?
20:55 marktraceur RagnarLaud: Considering yesterday's flood of "!joke" I don't think I'm out of line to be cautious when you generate a lot of text, especially related to the bots in-channel.
20:55 jin_xi dont humanize bots. they hate it!
20:56 celeron55 i already requested the bot maintainers to remove the "hi" commands from them
20:56 celeron55 apparently nobody heard
20:56 celeron55 maybe they hear now
20:56 celeron55 i hope they do
20:56 marktraceur !owner
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20:56 * marktraceur sighs
20:56 marktraceur Ah
20:56 celeron55 i have no idea who owns them, so it's kind of hard to tell them
20:56 marktraceur Clever
20:56 marktraceur iqualfragile: Please disable the "hi" command on moltenbot
20:56 marktraceur I think Minetest-tan is from sfan5|OFF
20:57 iqualfragile celeron55: now i heardi t
20:57 EqualsRagnar The code is, but he doesnt host them
20:58 iqualfragile im gona disable it if you wish me to
20:58 iqualfragile but i could allso move the answert to a private message
20:58 iqualfragile or block some individuals
20:59 marktraceur iqualfragile: It seems like it's a useless enough feature that it can be safely disabled.
20:59 iqualfragile its not useless
20:59 marktraceur ...
20:59 iqualfragile bots have feelings, too
20:59 iqualfragile moltenbot is a bot
21:00 RealBadAngel wait, ragnar is in love with a bot?
21:00 RealBadAngel fascinating
21:00 marktraceur iqualfragile: Support that with evidence, peer-reviewed articles preferably studying your bots that are apparently miracles of modern science, or remove the useless feature.
21:01 iqualfragile you cant show feelings with science
21:01 RealBadAngel just let them pretend in private ;)
21:01 marktraceur iqualfragile: I disagree. Functional MRIs are able to show many emotional responses.
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21:02 iqualfragile just did that
21:02 RealBadAngel preprogrammed
21:02 rdwrer moltenbot: Hi
21:03 marktraceur K
21:03 iqualfragile nah, wronk systax
21:03 iqualfragile u must use hi moltenbot
21:03 rdwrer Hi moltenbot
21:03 RealBadAngel which makes no emotions, but trickin folks just
21:04 marktraceur iqualfragile: It PMd me
21:04 iqualfragile jup, thats intentional
21:04 marktraceur ....borderline, but OK
21:04 RealBadAngel now go furhter check nick, if nick is *ragnar* pm him with "hello my love"
21:05 EqualsRagnar Hi RBA
21:06 RealBadAngel hi, i tryin to get you some emotional responses ;)
21:07 EqualsRagnar Stop xD
21:07 EqualsRagnar Hey RBA
21:07 EqualsRagnar Tell jojoa that he can trust me
21:08 RealBadAngel jojoa?
21:08 EqualsRagnar jojoa1997
21:09 jojoa1997 me
21:09 EqualsRagnar Tell him RBA
21:09 EqualsRagnar That if can trust me
21:09 EqualsRagnar He
21:10 kaeza hello RealBadAngel
21:10 sokomine the bot scrolls a lot, yes. especially with some people. but this is irc...there is an igno-command. it helps a lot
21:10 jojoa1997 why equal ranger quit
21:11 kaeza have you implemented the portals yet?
21:11 RealBadAngel no, working on the c++ version of the trees
21:11 kaeza oh ok
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21:12 VanessaE that'll hold for now.
21:13 jin_xi RealBadAngel: i'm really looking forward to try that out
21:13 kaeza VanessaE: +1
21:13 marktraceur VanessaE: What's up with that?
21:13 kaeza who is this guy?
21:13 RealBadAngel i got ready c++/LUA interface
21:13 iqualfragile he is a bit annoying
21:13 VanessaE I dunno, but his trolling is getting over the top
21:13 jin_xi a 13 year old?
21:14 RealBadAngel tommorow will code core gen code
21:14 VanessaE and now he's claiming to have placed viruses on people's machines.
21:14 iqualfragile oh dear
21:14 kaeza RealBadAngel: looking forward to that
21:14 jin_xi btw did you see c55 handle ragnars freakout? smooth
21:14 iqualfragile a scriptkitty
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21:14 RealBadAngel it shall not take long since i had before to port some c++ methods to get LUA generator working
21:15 marktraceur Lua.
21:15 sokomine fine :-) hope the trees can be used soon
21:15 sokomine i'm trying to find a way to get formspecs with npc
21:15 RealBadAngel ive ported to lua matrix library and rewrotten some matrix4 functions
21:16 jin_xi RealBadAngel: i really think it could be used to generate a lot more than plantlikes at some point
21:16 RealBadAngel yes
21:16 sokomine the whole formspec-part seems isolated enough...but i have no idea about the general data structure yet. the npc would need an inventory and access to the npc (lua-entity?) istead of a node would have to be handled
21:16 RealBadAngel with some more commands
21:17 sokomine nice :-)
21:17 RealBadAngel i already liked idea to add command for fruits
21:17 RealBadAngel like apples, coconuts etc
21:17 sokomine i'd like real bushes as well. not the 2d-shapes but rather groups of leaves without tree
21:17 jin_xi RealBadAngel: not only that, i think the actual "drawing" functions should be easily changeable
21:17 sokomine sounds good :-)
21:18 * sokomine gives realbadangle a few apples to hang on trees
21:18 RealBadAngel sokomine,we already have bushes
21:18 RealBadAngel by now they are called default trees
21:18 sokomine oh? how do they look like?
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21:19 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/sorry.png
21:19 kaeza my spider sense is detecting *Ragnar*
21:20 RealBadAngel here, you can see some bushes in the middle
21:20 WeAreAnonymous was kicked by VanessaE: WeAreAnonymous
21:20 VanessaE there, THAT will hold him for a while longer.
21:20 kaeza my spider sense is no longer detecting *Ragnar*
21:20 VanessaE beautiful trees, RealBadAngel
21:20 kaeza thanks V
21:20 VanessaE RealBadAngel: still using Lua?
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21:22 sokomine hard to tell; maybe starting a bit too high from the ground for bushes. the larger trees and those with diffrent leaves are gerat
21:22 RealBadAngel c++ isnt done yet
21:22 VanessaE ok
21:22 VanessaE sokomine: well to be fair, the default trees look like bushes by comparison :D
21:22 RealBadAngel easy change
21:22 sokomine :-) yes, the new ones from rba are giants
21:23 RealBadAngel make default tree trunk random 2-3 instead 4-5 and rename it to bush
21:23 sokomine tree-houses might make sense with them
21:23 sokomine oh, there ought to be "normal" old trees as well. not every tree has to be a special, impressive one. in nature, not all are extremly large as well
21:24 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Did you wind up growing the trees one stage at a time?
21:24 kaeza want to see bigger trees? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-10-25%2019%3A20%3A26.png
21:25 kaeza It's from a borked old version of Nature Pack
21:25 VanessaE hahah
21:25 RealBadAngel marktraceur, i made them by now appearing at random stage
21:26 sokomine very enthusiastic trees :-)
21:26 marktraceur Hm. K.
21:26 VanessaE kaeza: neko259 now knows about plantlife mod's growth height control, so maybe that'll be fixed soon
21:26 RealBadAngel when given number of iterations as parameter it means its a max stage
21:26 VanessaE sokomine: is that a tree on your screen or is your game just happy to see me? :-)
21:26 kaeza VanessaE: I have removed nature pack
21:26 RealBadAngel and randomly it can be lowered by 2
21:26 kaeza also, It's on my old (0.4.3) world
21:27 RealBadAngel so, callin the function can result in 3 different stages of growth
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21:27 kaeza FPS drops to ~5 when near the trees
21:27 Muadtralk talking about RBA's trees?
21:27 kaeza Muadtralk: no
21:27 Muadtralk huh
21:27 RealBadAngel that would be impossible
21:27 kaeza Muadtralk:  https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-10-25%2019%3A20%3A26.png
21:28 RealBadAngel generated trees are just bunch of nodes
21:28 kaeza and hi Muadtralk!
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21:28 kaeza :P
21:28 Muadtralk hello
21:28 Muadtralk oh nature mod
21:28 RealBadAngel hi Muadtralk
21:28 Muadtralk infinite wood yes?
21:28 marktraceur SeeBorg: Hello! Have you been around here before? I'm not sure I remember you :)
21:29 kaeza Muadtralk: yup
21:30 VanessaE kaeza:  look at the output spew from the client when it's at 5fps :-)
21:30 VanessaE it'll be pouring out errors about being out of indexes.
21:30 kaeza VanessaE: I deleted my old world long ago, kept the screen for fun
21:30 VanessaE kaeza: oh ok.  well it's an error that'll be fixed in time,
21:31 jojoa1997 IRC and ingame where real debugging occurs
21:31 kaeza VanessaE: here's another one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-10-25%2019%3A20%3A16.png
21:31 kaeza and sorry for spamming links
21:31 neko259 kaeza: I already fixed that long tree bug.
21:32 VanessaE this is spamming?
21:32 VanessaE kaeza: someone has 3dforniture! :-)
21:32 VanessaE neko259: did you use my code? :-)
21:32 neko259 Not yet.
21:32 VanessaE oh ok
21:32 neko259 I haven't done anything this week.
21:32 neko259 Got no time.
21:32 VanessaE no prob
21:32 kaeza VanessaE: yup
21:32 kaeza y?
21:33 VanessaE no reason, just noticed :-)
21:33 marktraceur I'we asked three times this week, but is the entity spawning bug getting fixed?
21:33 RealBadAngel kaeza, compare your screenshot to this: http://realbadangel.pl/under_the_tree.png ;)
21:33 jojoa1997 big trees for treehouse yay
21:33 kaeza RealBadAngel: cool!
21:34 kaeza s/cool/awesome/
21:34 Muadtralk it should give you the same effect of fps drop as the infinite trees
21:34 VanessaE kaeza: epic no? :-)
21:34 Muadtralk but that cause lua right RBA?
21:34 VanessaE Muadtralk: it's because the client runs out of graphics indexes
21:35 VanessaE it spews errors at such a rate that it drags the client down into the mug
21:35 VanessaE mud*
21:35 Muadtralk :P
21:35 VanessaE it's not the trees, it's something in the engine
21:35 Muadtralk yes i know
21:35 kaeza Do the trees use entities?
21:35 RealBadAngel noo
21:35 kaeza or nodeboxes?
21:35 RealBadAngel neither
21:35 kaeza models?
21:36 kaeza what then?
21:36 RealBadAngel nodes
21:36 jin_xi well... sometimes if your rule is weird it generates many leafes which then die
21:36 marktraceur Not a bad idea to use nodeboxes for, say, sticks on trees
21:36 sokomine 5fps? i know that only from minecraft. minetest can get slow on far view, but on normal view it works well (unless land is generated)
21:36 jin_xi -> tons of saplings
21:36 kaeza hmm
21:36 marktraceur Or possibly branches (that give smaller logs, with only one plank each)
21:36 RealBadAngel ive disabled sapling gen on the trees
21:36 jin_xi but yea, i generated trees that makes rba's big ones look like bushes in comparison
21:37 RealBadAngel hehe
21:37 kaeza pic or it didn't happen
21:37 RealBadAngel ive made a few mother of all trees too
21:37 jin_xi still havent fully explored (read: abused) the treegen
21:38 RealBadAngel starting on the ground ending above the clouds
21:38 jin_xi kaeza: http://i.imgur.com/zGwhR.jpg
21:38 sokomine ...and then you spawn in your new world on top of a tree and have to dig down for ages to reach the ground :-)
21:38 kaeza jin_xi: fck!
21:38 kaeza that's some big three!
21:38 kaeza tree*
21:38 jin_xi or this: http://i.imgur.com/dQclB.jpg
21:39 sokomine and it gets slow when those trees are nearby? or is that only sometimes?
21:39 kaeza they aren't generated on mapgen yet right?
21:39 jin_xi only while generating
21:39 kaeza I have to test this
21:39 sokomine ok. no wonder - trees that size need some time to grow :-)
21:40 hmmmm RealBadAngel, have you been porting it to C++?
21:40 sokomine imagine one of them popping up right in front of you like trees do.....
21:40 kaeza RealBadAngel: where's the trees mod?
21:41 jin_xi actually it feels good to spawn them: you wait a bit, and boom, it starts to grow like an explosion
21:41 RealBadAngel hmmmm, i shall be ready with c++ by tommorow
21:41 jin_xi then you're in the dark ;)
21:41 hmmmm ah okay
21:41 hmmmm 'cause I was gonna say
21:42 hmmmm I would've done it if you didn't want to
21:42 kaeza cool to make creepy forests :D
21:42 RealBadAngel i just finished c++/lua interface
21:42 sokomine some trees are specific to certain binomes, e.g. the jungletrees. it looks strange if they appear everywhere. i'm afraid that will have to be handled somehow as well. most of the ground is the same dirt and stone like everywhere...but the plantlife might be diffrent in diffrent regions
21:42 jin_xi sokomine: don't worry its hugely flexible
21:42 sokomine the inverse of tnt? :-)
21:43 RealBadAngel hmmm, i will also add a few additions that folks proposed
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21:43 VanessaE sokomine: my plantlife mod can be used to create biomes of saplings also
21:43 sokomine ah. that would be good. how?
21:43 RealBadAngel as generating horizontal trunks, fruits etc
21:43 VanessaE sokomine: https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/blob/master/API.txt
21:43 moltenbot VanessaE's link: plantlife/API.txt at master ? VanessaE/plantlife ? GitHub
21:44 RealBadAngel all customizable by axioms
21:44 sokomine yes, fruits are important. it would be great to have e.g. some nuts. or other fruits (pears, prunes, cherries, ...)
21:44 VanessaE sokomine: you call the spawn_on_surfaces() function with the right parameters, then let some other ABM actually grow them into trees
21:45 RealBadAngel each tree will have a chance to spawn defined fruit
21:45 kaeza YAY! then we can make fruit salad! (is that how it's called)
21:45 kaeza ?
21:45 RealBadAngel so if you will make a palm tree, just add coconut as a fruit
21:46 kaeza fruit punch *
21:46 RealBadAngel of course axiom should be made to spawn them in a sensible way
21:46 RealBadAngel but its not really my case
21:46 * sokomine collects all the fruits for winter :-)
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21:46 RealBadAngel axiom creator will have to take care of it
21:47 RealBadAngel axioms and rules are simply a programming language
21:47 kaeza and maybe sometime I can make my Harvest Moon inspired game
21:47 sokomine vanessae: looks like it would require diffrent surfaces? i'm thinking more of binomes - areas with a certain plantlife but with the same old dirt as everywhere else
21:48 sokomine can you give an axiom as an example for your trees? just the general idea you're thinking of
21:49 VanessaE sokomine: well it's perlin-noise-based
21:49 VanessaE and you can specify as many surfaces to spawn on as you want :-)
21:49 RealBadAngel hmmmm, dont you think biomes shall be greater sized then?
21:50 sokomine this perlin-noise seems popular with binome-mods, yes. havn't had a look at how that "noise" works internally
21:50 RealBadAngel those trees changes in game scale once and for all
21:50 sokomine there ought to be not too many extremly large trees :-)
21:51 RealBadAngel one feel small again walkin under those trees
21:51 VanessaE yes :-)
21:52 RealBadAngel btw for those who havent tried the lua version: http://realbadangel.pl/trees.zip
21:52 RealBadAngel unpack, pick 5 spawn sticks from creative and play in a new world
21:53 RealBadAngel i suggest then turn off fly mode
21:53 RealBadAngel and just walk in spawned forest
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21:54 Zephyrus1497 hi everyone
21:55 sokomine oh. spawn sticks? how are they named?
21:55 RealBadAngel treegen:
21:55 RealBadAngel and tree name
21:55 RealBadAngel use creative to find them
21:55 RealBadAngel or UI
21:56 hmmmm hmm?
21:56 RealBadAngel hmmm: hmm what?
21:56 hmmmm what did you mean by your last message directed toward me
21:56 RealBadAngel ah, the size
21:57 hmmmm well the whole thing will be made up of biomes
21:57 RealBadAngel with bigger trees biomes could be greater
21:57 hmmmm well here is what i'm thinking of
21:57 hmmmm each biome gets a "decorationdef"
21:57 hmmmm the decorationdef defines which sort of decoration it's going to be
21:58 hmmmm which can be set to generic tree, L-system tree, rocks, or custom (made in lua)
21:58 hmmmm or maybe a combination of those
21:58 hmmmm and then if L-system tree is specified, then you'll be able to give the "parameters" for creating them (in this case it'll be the axioms)
21:58 hmmmm sound good?
21:58 RealBadAngel yes
21:59 hmmmm yea
21:59 sokomine it's possible to see the bark of the tree in the short time until it's fully grown :_)
21:59 RealBadAngel wait, lookin for a name
21:59 sokomine really huge and dark!
22:00 hmmmm for now, you just work on the treegen stuff... when it comes time to merge my stuff I'll add in the treegen things
22:00 RealBadAngel i just imagined specific biome
22:00 RealBadAngel giant sequoia wood biome
22:00 sokomine that would be something
22:01 RealBadAngel dark, green and gigantic trees
22:01 RealBadAngel with trunks so close you can build whole city around them
22:01 VanessaE RealBadAngel: respawn on my server already :-)
22:02 VanessaE dead bodies lying around is..unattractive :-)
22:02 RealBadAngel like ewoks in starwars :)
22:02 RealBadAngel oh, you killed me? :P
22:04 RealBadAngel hmmmm, i got lots of ideas how to improve the treegen already
22:05 RealBadAngel its gonna be a very universal tool
22:06 RealBadAngel i will of course make api for it public
22:06 RealBadAngel let people play with it
22:06 jin_xi procedural textures would be awesome too
22:06 RealBadAngel then we could pick the best projects to include in bioms
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22:07 RealBadAngel this way we could have very specific and chosen trees for each biome
22:07 jin_xi yes, there needs to be a thread collecting good treegen rules
22:08 RealBadAngel yup
22:08 RealBadAngel i will write a guide on how to use it
22:08 jin_xi i never tried lsystem until yours but i like the feel of making and changing those rules
22:08 RealBadAngel and then lets the community create the best trees ever seen
22:10 RealBadAngel jin_xi one of yours is pretty close to the palm tree
22:10 kizeren So....just got back....Are you trying to create seperate biomes in a 1 map/world?
22:10 RealBadAngel but needs some commands not done yet
22:10 RealBadAngel like changing the angle, twistin branches
22:11 RealBadAngel and also pure leaves branches
22:11 RealBadAngel without trunks
22:11 jin_xi i really like the voxels for huge trees, but for smaller ones i wish nodeboxes were fully roll/yaw/pitch-able
22:13 Uberi oriented nodeboxes?
22:14 RealBadAngel ok, have to go, see ya later
22:14 Uberi o/
22:14 VanessaE hey hey Uberi.
22:14 jin_xi see ya
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22:15 VanessaE can models be applied to nodes?
22:15 Uberi hey VanessaE
22:15 Uberi not at the moment, it seems
22:15 jin_xi VanessaE: no, i dont think so
22:15 Uberi but that would probably slow things down with all the mesh skinning recalculations
22:16 VanessaE well one could always build trees out of a metric assload of entities :D
22:17 Uberi :O
22:17 VanessaE I didn't say it would be *efficient*
22:17 * marktraceur welcomes KittenGNU from the LibrePlanet community :)
22:19 * KittenGNU shakes marktraceur  's hand and makes a big grin
22:19 VanessaE hi KittenGNU
22:19 KittenGNU Why thank you :3
22:19 KittenGNU Hi
22:19 Uberi o/ KittenGNU
22:20 KittenGNU Uberi: Sorry for sounding silly, but what does "o/" refer to? XD
22:20 Uberi look at it very carefully
22:21 Uberi o is a head, and / is an arm :P
22:21 sokomine i imagine the trees some players would like most would be trees without leaves, standing next to each other without a node between them, easy to chop down...poor trees are treated bad sometimes on tree-farms
22:21 KittenGNU Uberi: Ah... :| That was silly of me not to notice.
22:22 Uberi yeah I should make a mod where the trees have formed a union and go on strike if you don't give them the benefits they're demanding
22:22 KittenGNU Uberi: :D Do so
22:22 VanessaE haha
22:22 KittenGNU "trees of the world, unite!"
22:22 marktraceur Uberi: Luckily, it will take them ages to decide to strike--they're never hasty
22:22 * VanessaE grabs a big bottle of glue...someone want a few trees to "unite"? :-)
22:23 Uberi "I am the Lorax, and I speak for the trees"
22:23 Uberi "for trees have no tongues"
22:24 sokomine yes, here, please! digged up part of a trunk...now the crown floats :_)
22:24 * sokomine nods to uberi
22:25 Uberi if you punch a tree too hard, the trunk will break and the Lorax will come out of it
22:25 Uberi the Lorax does 5 hearts of damage per hit and 1 heart per second aftereffect for 5 seconds
22:25 sokomine that sounds so...fight-like
22:26 sokomine maybe more indirect :-) wood that after digging turns out to be too weak for wooden planks
22:27 Uberi the trees have eyes
22:27 Uberi they stare at you, all day, all night
22:27 Uberi through your windows, through your roofs
22:27 Uberi they drop saplings closer and closer to you while you're not watching
22:28 Uberi if you don't watch out, you'll be eaten alive by the trees!
22:28 marktraceur Uberi: I made that happen once
22:29 marktraceur Uberi: The first saplings implementation would drop saplings that auto-planted
22:29 Uberi a mod?
22:29 Uberi oh neat
22:29 marktraceur Back in 0.3.x
22:29 Uberi do the trees actively try to eat you?
22:29 marktraceur No, but if you don't pay attention, they get right out of hand
22:29 Uberi I should make a Super Hostile game mode
22:30 sokomine no...even worse :-) the linger in the grass...and if you approach...plop! ran into a tree again
22:30 Uberi everything tries to kill you
22:30 marktraceur Especially since some of the leaves were out of the radius I was checking....so the edges would decay and re-plant....
22:30 Uberi :O
22:30 sokomine :-)
22:31 marktraceur Boy that was a long time ago
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22:33 * Uberi is writing an RD parser for ucScript
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22:34 Uberi soon Mesecons microcontrollers will support nested If statements, escape characters in strings, and generally be more stable
22:35 VanessaE \o/
22:36 KittenGNU The download link on the Wiki is broken btw.
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22:38 Uberi Muadtralk: !
22:39 Muadtralk !
22:39 marktraceur KittenGNU: Which one?
22:39 Muadtralk Uberi !
22:39 KittenGNU marktraceur: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki - under resources.
22:40 moltenbot KittenGNU's link: Minetest Wiki
22:40 marktraceur Sure as hell is, thanks
22:40 marktraceur Gorram it. View source.
22:41 * marktraceur hates not benig able to edit a wiki
22:41 Muadtralk hmmm?
22:41 Muadtralk you cant edit wiki's?
22:41 Uberi wait you can't edit that wiki?
22:41 marktraceur Muadtralk: Just the minetest one
22:42 marktraceur Just the main page
22:42 Uberi ah good
22:42 Muadtralk i thought that one was editable
22:42 marktraceur But Calinou's an admin, whenever he comes around
22:42 Muadtralk I once changed things on it.....
22:42 Muadtralk must have been a fluke
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22:43 M13 hello
22:44 * KittenGNU waves to M13
22:44 * M13 waves back to KittenGNU
22:44 M13 VanessaE
22:44 Uberi hey M13
22:45 M13 hey, I have a New Website?
22:45 Uberi got a link?
22:45 M13 http://m13.myftp.biz
22:45 moltenbot M13's link: Madchicken13's Site (Open source Projects / Free Website Hosting)
22:45 M13 lol, cool
22:45 VanessaE coo..
22:45 M13 thats the title
22:45 VanessaE cool.
22:46 M13 Its my first site
22:46 Uberi M13: FYI, typo on line 2: s/coarse/course
22:46 M13 oops
22:46 M13 Ill fix
22:47 M13 VanessaE
22:47 M13 do you have a website?\
22:48 VanessaE I have my own website, but it is not for the server.
22:49 kaeza back
22:49 kaeza VanessaE: this may interest you for your HDX pack http://opengameart.org/
22:49 moltenbot kaeza's link: OpenGameArt.org
22:52 * KittenGNU bookmarks both links
22:56 M13 madchicken13.weebly.com
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22:56 M13 Ill use this for my blog and forum
22:57 VanessaE kaeza: I'll look at it later, but thanks
22:57 M13 g2g
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23:50 cy1 Anyone on any servers?
23:50 jordan4ibanez yea boi
23:50 cy1 liek which
23:50 jordan4ibanez Guess
23:50 cy1 oldcoder's
23:51 cy1 nope
23:51 kaeza hi cy1
23:51 kaeza hi again jordan4ibanez
23:51 cy1 mine!
23:51 cy1 kaeza: yo
23:52 cy1 ...nope
23:52 cy1 jordan4ibanez: which one??
23:52 jordan4ibanez Wiener
23:53 jordan4ibanez Recdrab
23:53 cy1 eww redcrab
23:53 jordan4ibanez hi kazea
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23:55 grondilu for some reason sneaking does not work (I'm using 0.4.4)
23:55 kaeza1 hello grondilu
23:55 grondilu yet the key is reckognized since I can climb down ladders
23:55 kaeza1 that's odd
23:56 celeron55 oh, the site doesn't accept links without .php and some places link to those
23:56 celeron55 shit 8)
23:56 kaeza1 celeron55: ?
23:58 celeron55 now they work
23:58 celeron55 re. marktraceur/KittenGNU discussion about http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki 's link to http://minetest.net/download
23:58 moltenbot celeron55's link: Minetest Wiki
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