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00:00 emerge182-rc joined #minetest
00:09 STHGOM bye
00:13 Dogzilla131 how does a geothermal generator work?
00:14 Uberi from harnessing the heat underneath the surface of the earth, Dogzilla131
00:14 Uberi the heat comes from mainly the pressure and the radioactive materials that are decaying in the crust
00:14 Dogzilla131 that means not lava
00:15 Uberi actually, lava under the surface of the earth is called magma
00:15 Uberi but yes, it is inefficient to dig all the way down to the upper mantle
00:15 Dogzilla131 yeah, but the lava it's in the top of the surface
00:16 Uberi wait are you talking about tekkit or something?
00:22 jin_xi technic mod
00:23 Uberi technic, that's what it's called
00:23 jin_xi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsAJ-ux-Ryk
00:24 simion314 could  it be posible to makea something like a dispensor that can plant seeds? then you could automate farming,
00:24 Uberi simion314: I've got a proposal for a mesecon allocator in the worls
00:24 Uberi * works
00:25 Dogzilla131 hey to you make stainless steel
00:31 simion314 i will leave now, good night
00:31 Uberi see you
00:37 * OldCoder has an errand for 1.5 to 3 hours but will be here for the rest of the evening afterward
00:41 kaeza1 are there any plats to add vertical wires to mesecons?
00:41 kaeza1 plans*
00:41 Uberi kaeza1: not very high priority
00:42 Uberi what do you need them for?
00:42 VanessaE hi all.
00:42 kaeza1 they would reduce the space required for some things
00:42 Uberi hey VanessaE
00:42 kaeza1 hey V
00:42 VanessaE hi hi
00:43 kaeza1 VanessaE: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc
00:43 Taoki joined #minetest
00:44 Uberi hey Taoki
00:44 Taoki hi
00:44 kaeza1 hey Taoki
00:44 VanessaE hi Taoki
00:44 VanessaE kaeza1: cool
00:44 kaeza1 the README is outdated though
00:44 kaeza1 been a bit lazy :P
00:45 kaeza1 Uberi: currently you need a 2blocks wide column to take power vertically
00:45 Uberi kaeza1: not quite
00:46 Uberi stack mesecon torches to make it 1x1
00:46 kaeza1 hmm...
00:46 kaeza1 interesting
00:46 kaeza1 how did I not notice the torches?
00:46 Uberi well there is one downside
00:47 Uberi they add about 0.5s delay to their signal
00:47 kaeza1 what?
00:47 jin_xi Hey VanessaE check latest git
00:47 kaeza1 per torch?
00:47 Uberi yeah, kaeza1
00:47 kaeza1 that's a nono
00:47 VanessaE shaders!?
00:47 VanessaE !?!?!?
00:48 Uberi SHADERS
00:48 Uberi (optional, though)
00:48 kaeza1 imagine a player having to wait 5 secs(not including lag) to open something
00:49 VanessaE lots of talk I saw about shaders earlier.  How does this affect the end user? :-)
00:49 VanessaE I don't quite understand them
00:49 Uberi VanessaE: there are some nice example shaders already :)
00:50 VanessaE Uberi: I saw some screenshots, but I meant these commits :-)
00:50 Uberi in that case I haven't a clue in the slightest
00:51 VanessaE oh well. I'll build it anyway and see what it breaks :D
00:55 kaeza1 ummm... how does one get the update using git?
00:55 kaeza1 I suck at this git thing
00:55 Uberi git pull URL_GOES_HERE
00:55 Uberi it'll pull to your cd
00:55 kaeza1 thanks! :P
00:55 jin_xi or just git pull if you're in a repo
00:55 kaeza1 :D*
00:56 kaeza1 thanks
00:56 kaeza1 that should do it
00:56 kaeza1 I think...
00:56 kaeza1 k building :)
00:57 kaeza1 just the usual warnings in l_register_item_raw
01:00 VanessaE Uberi: oh I see it now..  tops of everything is brighter than the sides
01:00 VanessaE are*
01:00 Uberi wow, I can't wait for that
01:00 VanessaE it's already there.
01:01 Uberi anyone know about the progress on the automatic view distance adjustment?
01:01 VanessaE it does something strange to my homedecor lights though
01:01 VanessaE they seem...dimmer than before
01:01 Uberi VanessaE: yeah but way too lazy to boot into Ubuntu and compile it
01:02 VanessaE heh
01:04 VanessaE in fact that 'dimmer' look applies to all lighted objects
01:04 VanessaE 3dforniture lamps, my homedecor lights, bobblocks...
01:04 Uberi anything to do with the lighting update?
01:04 VanessaE beats me, I have no idea
01:05 kaeza I haven't tried it with homedecor, but yes. everything seems dimmer except the tops which seem way brighter
01:05 kaeza hmm.
01:05 VanessaE that said, I'm seeing objects that used to have broken lighting (like stairs) now working correctly.
01:05 Uberi might be a few issues still to iron out
01:06 kaeza <offtopic> Is /giveme aware of aliases? </offtopic>
01:06 Uberi yep
01:07 kaeza "/giveme pick_mese" says "cannot give an unknown item"
01:07 Uberi kaeza: it's default:pick_mese
01:07 Uberi legacy doesn't have the alias
01:07 kaeza ok
01:08 kaeza ummm... is this right? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1495591034.jpg
01:09 kaeza I mean the gap
01:09 Uberi ew
01:09 jin_xi it is not
01:10 jin_xi read -dev log about it
01:11 jin_xi anyway i'm off
01:13 kaeza brb. food is calling :)
01:13 Uberi call of the wild
01:16 Dogzilla131 Who kbows how to make tubes for the technic
01:20 Dogzilla131 *knows
01:25 kaeza back
01:26 * kaeza puts a plate with a chunk of pizza
01:26 kaeza anyone wants?
01:26 * Uberi wants pizza
01:26 kaeza suit yourself :)
01:27 Uberi D:
01:31 STHGOM joined #minetest
01:42 OldCoder Back
01:42 NakedFury welcome back
01:42 OldCoder Thank you
01:43 NakedFury I keep seeing this weird worldedit bug. sometimes in a stack command it will create a bunch of sand or dirt at the end
01:43 NakedFury for no reason
01:43 kaeza wv OC
01:44 kaeza wb*
01:44 kaeza GAWD! a typo in a two-letter word...
01:44 * VanessaE is back too.
01:44 OldCoder kaeza, It happens
01:44 OldCoder Ti happens
01:44 OldCoder :-)
01:45 kaeza lol
01:45 kaeza (23:28:35) STHGOM [~STHGOM@71-13-157-143.static.ftbg.wi.charter.com] ha entrado en la sala.
01:45 kaeza (23:28:44) STHGOM ha salido de la sala (quit: Client Quit).
01:46 kaeza OldCoder: ^
01:46 STHGOM joined #minetest
01:47 kaeza hmmm...
01:47 STHGOM joined #minetest
01:47 kaeza is that you OC?
01:48 OldCoder Yes
01:48 OldCoder Not STHGOM
01:49 kaeza VanessaE: care to test the IRC mod to see if it does work for you?
01:50 VanessaE no :-)
01:50 VanessaE I *just* updated to latest git (and turned shaders off :( _
01:51 OldCoder kaeza, that will be a nice mod
01:51 ruskie joined #minetest
01:51 kaeza but I don't know why it works for me but not for others
01:52 Kacey joined #minetest
01:52 kaeza hey Kacey
01:52 Kacey stupid windows...
01:52 kaeza yeah :)
01:52 VanessaE kaeza: shaders works fine for me - except that light-emitting objects look dim
01:52 Kacey sorry i didnt get on today or last night
01:52 VanessaE s;ok
01:52 NakedFury are the shaders option ingame?
01:53 VanessaE in the menu, not in-game
01:54 Kacey we need to make an in-game menu
01:54 kaeza VanessaE: I'm talking about the irc mod. not about shaders
01:54 NakedFury ingame playing menu
01:54 NakedFury but yeah vanessa I meant that menu
01:54 VanessaE [12-01 20:53] <NakedFury> are the shaders option ingame?
01:54 VanessaE [12-01 20:54] <VanessaE> in the menu, not in-game
01:54 VanessaE OH
01:54 VanessaE gitchya
01:54 VanessaE gotchya.
01:55 Kacey i like gitchya better
01:55 NakedFury would it take an experienced coder to apply all config stuff to the options menu??
01:55 kaeza git: 'chya' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
01:55 VanessaE lol
01:55 Kacey lolz
01:56 * Kacey slaps nyan-cat with a rainbow trout
01:57 leo_rockway shaders? o.o
01:57 kaeza hey leo
01:57 leo_rockway hello
01:58 leo_rockway I built the shaders_v4 branch the other day
01:58 * Kacey slaps leo_rockway with a rainbow trout
01:58 leo_rockway everything looked bluish
01:58 kaeza shaders are now in master
01:58 leo_rockway \o/
01:58 Kacey shaders? what are shaders?
01:58 kaeza and they work ok
01:58 leo_rockway Kacey: it's a duel!
01:58 leo_rockway I'm building now
01:58 leo_rockway I'll test in about... 2 minutes
01:59 * Kacey slaps leo_rockway with a big red brick
01:59 kaeza Kacey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shader
02:00 leo_rockway I was watching a video of Terasology the other day
02:00 leo_rockway and my mom saw it
02:00 leo_rockway she thought it was beautiful
02:00 Kacey stupid windows...
02:00 kaeza true ^
02:01 Kacey internet explorer is not working. search for the solution onlie.
02:01 kaeza use Linux :)
02:01 Kacey -_-
02:01 kaeza YOU USE IE????
02:01 leo_rockway I use Windows at work v.v
02:01 kaeza OH GAWD
02:01 Kacey not anymore
02:01 NakedFury for gods sake use firefox or chrome man
02:01 leo_rockway > using Windows
02:01 NakedFury madness
02:01 leo_rockway eh...
02:01 leo_rockway > using IE
02:01 leo_rockway CRAZY!
02:01 Kacey i use chrome but it decided not to work so i went to ie
02:01 kaeza the only thing IE is good for is for downloading Chrome
02:02 Kacey which crashed and now i have no good browser for a while
02:02 VanessaE leo_rockway: please pull from git for plantlife, see if your bug is fixed :-)
02:02 leo_rockway I have Firefox 20... I hate their versionitis.
02:02 leo_rockway VanessaE: okay! =]
02:03 kaeza Firefox 20 is versionitis? how about nVidia driver 67.xx?
02:03 Kacey i cannot click anything on sfan5's website...
02:03 VanessaE 20??  I'm still on 17!
02:03 leo_rockway kaeza: >.<
02:03 leo_rockway VanessaE: nightly.
02:03 leo_rockway 18 is beta, 19 is aurora, 20 is nightly
02:03 kaeza Kacey: you have to compile
02:04 VanessaE ah.  you got brass ones for using a firefox nightly ;)
02:04 Kacey O.o
02:04 leo_rockway I barely have problems, VanessaE
02:04 leo_rockway whenever I have issues, they get fixed overnight.
02:04 VanessaE cool
02:04 leo_rockway I did have addons compatibility issues
02:04 Kacey it is precompiled i just need to CLICK the frewaking LINK
02:04 kaeza I don't thing sfan5 has it built yet
02:04 VanessaE I know I know, say I after just updating to latest bleeding edge minetest :D
02:04 kaeza umm.... frewaking? you're waking up a fre?
02:05 leo_rockway I want preloading, right?
02:05 VanessaE yes.
02:05 Kacey lol w button is being wwierd
02:05 VanessaE otherwise creative inventory will be all black between pages.
02:06 Kacey sewe iwt HAWTES me!!!!!
02:06 leo_rockway VanessaE: no errors on plantlife.
02:06 kaeza lolw
02:06 Kacey WALRUS!!!!!!!
02:06 leo_rockway I don't notice any difference with the shaders.
02:06 VanessaE leo_rockway: excellent.  Are you using it with nature_pack by chance?
02:07 kaeza leo_rockway: <thexyz> shaders are now in master, nice, before: http://i.imgur.com/GzThO.png, after: http://i.imgur.com/CBqtf.png
02:07 VanessaE leo_rockway: look at the tops of the blocks vs. sides.  shaders = brighter tops.  Look at light-emitting objects like super glow glass.  it looks dim now :-/
02:07 leo_rockway VanessaE: yes, controlled. Without irontrees: bushes/  nature/  vines/
02:07 VanessaE leo_rockway: yeah, that's why.  I forgot to assume seed = 0 if the calling mod doesn't supply it.
02:07 VanessaE instead it was getting a default of nil.
02:08 leo_rockway VanessaE: should I use it with other mods instead?
02:08 VanessaE naw, it's fine now.
02:08 VanessaE that was a bug on my part.
02:08 kaeza Kacey: see README.txt, and no more PMs please
02:09 Kacey like what files must i move again?
02:09 kaeza move?
02:10 Kacey like from irrlicht to mingw and etc
02:10 kaeza lib/Win32-gcc/libirrlicht.a
02:10 kaeza to C:\MinGW\lib
02:11 kaeza and include/* to C:\MinGW\include
02:11 Kacey everything in the include folder?
02:11 kaeza yes
02:11 Kacey k
02:11 kaeza '*' means everything... remember?
02:12 leo_rockway kaeza: thanks. I notice the difference now.
02:12 Kacey ooh ok
02:12 kaeza leo_rockway: np
02:12 Kacey what about the PATH?
02:13 kaeza Right click "My Computer"
02:13 kaeza Properties
02:13 Doc22_ joined #minetest
02:13 kaeza Advanced Tab->Environment Variables
02:13 Doc22_ Kacey are you still interested in machines lol
02:13 Kacey let me compile first
02:13 Doc22_ o
02:13 Doc22_ ok
02:13 Doc22_ arrgh
02:13 kaeza append ";C:\MinGW" (without quotes) to PATH
02:14 Doc22_ trigger happy pinky
02:14 Kacey but yes i am interested
02:14 Doc22_ ok
02:14 Kacey dont have PATH
02:14 Kacey hmmm
02:14 kaeza ...
02:14 Kacey ok done
02:14 leo_rockway there's stone monster exactly on my bed >.<
02:15 Kacey made a PATH variable
02:15 * sokomine places a sand block on the stone monster's head
02:15 leo_rockway also, I see that water doesn't reach all the way up.
02:15 leo_rockway that looks good
02:15 VanessaE yes
02:15 VanessaE but there's a side effect with it:
02:15 Kacey stone monster?
02:16 leo_rockway Kacey: simple mobs
02:16 kaeza leo_rockway: except for this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1495591034.jpg
02:16 VanessaE an object placed on water does not touch it anymore :(
02:16 kaeza small problem
02:16 leo_rockway VanessaE: yeah, that doesn't look good :S
02:16 VanessaE such as flowers:waterlilies and flowers:seaweed.
02:16 leo_rockway so they hover?
02:17 leo_rockway I thought shaders would make MT look like Terasology o.o
02:18 leo_rockway yeah, I see a waterlily now...
02:18 VanessaE yes
02:18 VanessaE they always did, but they do it worse now
02:18 NakedFury leo that could happen later, first lets have shaders
02:18 kaeza I like the shaders, but I like how the water looked the old way. can it be fixed to mix both things?
02:18 VanessaE signlike/raillike always hover away from the cube face they are placed on, this just makes the effect worse on water.
02:19 Doc22_ kacey so you ready?
02:19 Kacey not yet...
02:19 kaeza BTW is this stone monster real?
02:20 VanessaE that's probably pilzadam's simple mobs mod.
02:20 leo_rockway yes, simple mob
02:20 kaeza hmm... didn't work for me on 0.4.3
02:20 kaeza I guess I'll try it again
02:20 leo_rockway it has the problem that they sometimes stop responding
02:20 STHGOM joined #minetest
02:20 kaeza now on 0.4.4
02:20 leo_rockway and they can hit you, even behind doors
02:20 kaeza who is this STHGOM?
02:21 leo_rockway and damage calculation is not that great in MT
02:21 leo_rockway and when you hit the mob, it doesn't get pushed back
02:21 Kacey ok small problem while compiling...
02:21 leo_rockway so they keep hitting you and hitting you
02:21 kaeza leo_rockway: that also happens in MOBF
02:21 leo_rockway yup
02:21 kaeza I fixed it somehow
02:21 leo_rockway oh?
02:22 kaeza but kept doing a constant damage regardless of weapon
02:22 kaeza 5HP per hit
02:22 kaeza it can be fixed though
02:22 kaeza but i'm a bit lazy
02:22 Kacey same error...
02:22 STHGOM sparky the happy girrafe
02:22 STHGOM :)
02:23 kaeza Kacey: if it's not too long paste here. else use a pastebin
02:23 Kacey CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND.
02:23 Kacey Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files:
02:23 Kacey IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR (ADVANCED)
02:23 Kacey used as include directory in directory G:/minetest/minetest/minetest-master/src
02:23 Kacey used as include directory in directory G:/minetest/minetest/minetest-master/src
02:23 Kacey used as include directory in directory G:/minetest/minetest/minetest-master/src/jthread
02:23 Kacey used as include directory in directory G:/minetest/minetest/minetest-master/src/sqlite
02:23 Kacey used as include directory in directory G:/minetest/minetest/minetest-master/src/lua/src
02:23 Kacey IRRLICHT_LIBRARY (ADVANCED)
02:23 Kacey linked by target "minetest" in directory G:/minetest/minetest/minetest-master/src
02:23 kaeza nononononono
02:23 kaeza STAHP!
02:23 kaeza hmmm...
02:23 Kacey only 10 lines
02:23 Muadtralk joined #minetest
02:23 kaeza hey Muadtralk
02:23 VanessaE hi Muadtralk
02:24 leo_rockway more than 3 is flood in IRC
02:24 kaeza this^
02:24 Kacey hello Maudtralk
02:24 Kacey i posted over 20 at one point...
02:24 kaeza you sure are looking for a /kick
02:24 Kacey close window.. reopen
02:25 STHGOM my minetest name is sparky
02:26 kaeza Kacey: it looks like CMake can't find your Irrlicht
02:26 kaeza use the GUI to point those vars to the correct dirs
02:27 Kacey ooh ok
02:27 kaeza IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR should be something like C:\MinGW\include
02:27 Kacey ...
02:27 kaeza and IRRLICHT_LIBRARY should be something like C:\MinGW\lib\libirrlicht.a
02:27 Kacey i got it anyway
02:29 kaeza oh and remember to put bin/irrlicht.dll into either C:\MinGW\bin or the same dir as minetest.exe
02:29 Kacey nvm just a bunch of CMake files...
02:29 kaeza ?
02:29 Kacey no minetest but CMake files
02:30 kaeza the bin/ dir on your minetest-mastr dir
02:30 kaeza master*
02:30 Kacey ?
02:30 kaeza that's where minetest.exe will go
02:30 kaeza put irrlicht.dll there
02:32 Kacey uugh it was just working a minute ago
02:32 Kacey ok how do i do it in the command line
02:32 Kacey OldCoder ^
02:33 OldCoder Kacey, Hi!
02:33 Kacey how do i compile using command line?
02:33 OldCoder Kacey, kaeza I only build MT under Linux; even for Windows
02:34 OldCoder Kacey, I have scripts for this and I'll share them
02:34 Kacey ok
02:34 STHGOM joined #minetest
02:34 OldCoder I'm close to my next release
02:34 OldCoder Finishing a project this weekend
02:34 OldCoder Been preoccupied with that
02:34 kaeza OldCoder: I can't get my mingw32 package to work. else I'd do it too
02:34 OldCoder But we'll see soon
02:34 Kacey just run them and it will work right?
02:34 OldCoder kaeza, I can help with that I think
02:34 OldCoder Kacey, No
02:34 OldCoder You need a script
02:34 OldCoder And to set things up. I'll show you.
02:35 Kacey but run the script and it will work right?
02:35 OldCoder Probably
02:35 OldCoder Mostly you need a good copy of mingw
02:35 Kacey -_-
02:35 OldCoder o_____________o
02:35 Kacey i have a good copy
02:35 OldCoder x_________________________________________________-x
02:35 OldCoder then you are all set maybe
02:35 OldCoder I will try to help
02:35 OldCoder But I need more time
02:35 kaeza OldCoder: I have made a toolchain file to compile MT with it
02:35 OldCoder Time is the simplest thing
02:35 Kacey ok
02:36 kaeza but doesn't seem to work
02:36 OldCoder kaeza, I have my trees
02:36 OldCoder They are the bee's knees
02:36 Kacey HA idea
02:36 OldCoder Give me a chance to make them work
02:36 OldCoder Until then I'll lurk
02:36 OldCoder right here
02:36 OldCoder Never fear
02:36 kaeza k
02:36 OldCoder We will see if we can compile MT
02:36 OldCoder the best
02:36 OldCoder 3D game
02:36 OldCoder There is no shame
02:36 kaeza this^
02:36 OldCoder In building MT
02:36 OldCoder You will see
02:36 OldCoder
02:37 kaeza ...
02:37 kaeza ...
02:37 kaeza Thinking [20%
02:37 kaeza ]
02:37 Kacey what is command to make
02:37 kaeza "make"
02:37 kaeza :)
02:37 Kacey for mingw
02:37 jordan4ibanez it finally works
02:37 Kacey tried that
02:37 kaeza mingw32-make
02:38 Kacey tryed that also
02:38 kaeza or else get MSYS
02:38 Kacey have that
02:38 kaeza then you didn't set up your PATH correctly
02:38 kaeza jordan4ibanez: ?
02:39 jordan4ibanez My quarry mod
02:39 Kacey i set PATH to C:\MinGW
02:39 kaeza oh crap my bad
02:39 kaeza it should be C:\MinGW\bin
02:39 Kacey uugh
02:40 kaeza sowwy
02:40 Kacey still not working
02:40 kaeza hmmm...
02:40 kaeza where did you install MSYS?
02:41 kaeza jordan4ibanez: link?
02:41 Kacey C:\MinGW\msys\
02:41 kaeza Kacey: then also add ";C:\MinGW\msys\bin" to PATH
02:41 jordan4ibanez it's not complete yet, just the mechanics
02:42 kaeza I think it may be \msys\<version>\bin
02:42 kaeza jordan4ibanez: k
02:42 jordan4ibanez k for kaeza?
02:42 kaeza yup :)
02:43 kaeza ...
02:43 Kacey i found a ms-dos file
02:44 kaeza Usage: [O]k: -- tells a person something is good. Parameters: O just to feel a little smarter (optional, default: nil)
02:45 kaeza Kacey: ?
02:45 Kacey i found a batch file
02:45 kaeza ...
02:45 kaeza where?
02:46 Kacey C:\MinGW\msys\1.0
02:46 kaeza add C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\bin to path
02:46 Kacey ooh ok
02:47 kaeza ermm... PATH
02:47 Kacey ok now...
02:47 kaeza works?
02:48 Kacey no makefile found
02:48 kaeza at least it can find make
02:49 Kacey ya
02:49 kaeza you have Visual Studio installed?
02:49 Kacey ?
02:49 kaeza just asking
02:49 Kacey y
02:49 kaeza because CMake will use it by default on Windows
02:49 Kacey im not using CMake
02:49 kaeza -.-
02:49 Kacey im using command prompt
02:50 * kaeza facepalms
02:50 kaeza cmake is also a command line program
02:51 kaeza Welcome to CMake, the cross-platform, open-source build system. CMake is a family of tools designed to build, test and package software. CMake is used to control the software compilation process using simple platform and compiler independent configuration files. CMake generates native makefiles and workspaces that can be used in the compiler environment of your choice.
02:52 Kacey ?
02:52 kaeza from http://cmake.org
02:52 Kacey and...
02:52 Kacey well i am cheating and usin that batch file i found
02:53 kaeza you need CMake to build Minetest, remember?
02:53 Kacey now it says no rule to make target
02:53 kaeza post complete LINE
02:53 kaeza no target <...>
02:54 kaeza and what are you using that batch file for?
02:54 Kacey make: *** No rule to make target 'rules'. Stop.
02:54 Kacey to "make"
02:55 kaeza are you sure you CD'd to the root minetest dir?
02:55 Kacey i am using the batch file
02:55 Kacey check it out
02:55 kaeza ...
02:55 kaeza nonononono
02:56 kaeza don't post it here
02:56 Kacey C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\msys.bat
02:56 kaeza oh
02:56 kaeza but what does that have to do with this?
02:56 Kacey ya look at it for yourself
02:56 Kacey that is what i am using
02:56 kaeza not on windows, remember?
02:56 Kacey i opened it by clicking on it
02:57 Kacey ooh ya
02:57 Kacey lucky
02:57 kaeza ?
02:57 Kacey you are not on windows
02:58 Kacey Doc22 are you alive?
02:58 kaeza I'm not lucky
02:58 Kacey ya you are
02:58 kaeza you can get Linux too
02:58 Kacey no i cant
02:58 kaeza why?
02:58 Kacey grandparents wont allow
02:58 leo_rockway VM
02:58 kaeza download VirtualBox
02:58 Kacey wont boot properly
02:59 Kacey i have a VM but it wont boot right
02:59 kaeza why?
02:59 kaeza what distro?
02:59 Kacey xubuntu
02:59 leo_rockway weird
02:59 Kacey but it wont set up again
03:00 kaeza try http://puppylinux.org
03:00 Kacey no i like xubuntu
03:01 kaeza ...
03:01 OldCoder Umm
03:01 * OldCoder scrolls up
03:01 Kacey lol
03:01 OldCoder I really recommend doing this under Linux
03:02 OldCoder I swear I'd try to help tonight but I'm nearly done with a real project
03:02 VanessaE Taoki|away: you here?
03:02 kaeza Kacey: just try it
03:02 OldCoder I already spent time today fixing corruption
03:02 kaeza if you don't like it ditch it
03:02 OldCoder VanessaE, I added a workaround for the playerargsend crash
03:02 OldCoder <kaeza> you can get Linux too
03:02 OldCoder <Kacey> no i cant
03:02 OldCoder <kaeza> why?
03:02 OldCoder <Kacey> grandparents wont allow
03:02 OldCoder Geenz
03:02 OldCoder Geez
03:02 OldCoder Tell them it isn't Communist or whatever
03:02 OldCoder :p
03:03 kaeza OldCoder: I'm currently running Ubuntu 12.04
03:03 OldCoder Good
03:03 VanessaE get your own computer? :)
03:03 kaeza this^
03:03 OldCoder Though Mint > Ubuntu
03:03 Kacey crashed under windows did my laptop lol
03:03 kaeza PuppyLinux > everything :)
03:03 OldCoder Get Mint and Mate that is best Fate
03:03 OldCoder Ah
03:03 OldCoder But MY distro > All
03:03 OldCoder :D
03:03 Kacey ha it is booting
03:03 leo_rockway OldCoder: your distro! \o/
03:03 * OldCoder sighs
03:04 VanessaE fuck mint - get Xubuntu :)
03:04 OldCoder IF I can ever release it
03:04 kaeza OldCoder: YOU WIN THIS TIME!!
03:04 VanessaE XFCE Is Your Friend â„¢
03:04 OldCoder Openbox is good too
03:04 Kacey xubuntu YA!!!!!
03:04 leo_rockway OldCoder: beginners want shiny
03:04 Kacey fatal error again
03:04 OldCoder Openbox can be very shiny
03:04 OldCoder It just doesn't have dancing icons 'n' stuff
03:05 Kacey freaking vm wont WORK!!!!
03:05 kaeza I used to use JWM, but then the OpenBox nation attacked
03:06 kaeza oh and BTW Kacey, OldCoder: http://www.funnyscreenshots.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/bluescreen-fail.jpg
03:06 Kacey found the error
03:07 Kacey too much memory allocated to the vm
03:08 Kacey nvm
03:08 leo_rockway kaeza: priceless
03:08 Kacey let me check the log
03:09 kaeza leo_rockway: everyday i'm BSOD'ing
03:09 OldCoder R
03:09 kaeza :)
03:09 OldCoder Oh
03:09 OldCoder That still happens
03:10 Kacey blue screen did an illegal thing? it IS illegal
03:10 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54602#p54602
03:10 kaeza the illegal thing is that Microsoft charges you $300 to stare at a blue screen
03:11 kaeza jordan4ibanez: nice!
03:11 jordan4ibanez Yes yes
03:15 Kacey maybe it is my iso
03:15 kaeza Kacey: what's the error?
03:15 Kacey cannot find it...
03:16 kaeza how much mem do you have PHYSICALLY?
03:16 Kacey how do i check...
03:16 kaeza Right click on My Computer->Properties
03:17 Kacey 512mb of RAM
03:17 Kacey i have more than that in my BRAIN!!!!!!!
03:17 kaeza XP needs at least 256MB of it
03:17 kaeza anyway XP is a mem hog
03:18 Kacey ya
03:18 kaeza try PuppyLinux! it can run with 64MB
03:18 Kacey lets try it now...
03:18 Kacey ubuntu
03:19 kaeza VanessaE: how's xubuntu speaking of memory use?
03:19 Kacey VanessaE do you use xubuntu?
03:20 STHGOM bye
03:21 Kacey bye
03:21 kaeza slow
03:21 kaeza :)
03:21 jordan4ibanez xubuntu uses 256 mb min
03:21 jordan4ibanez use archbang
03:21 kaeza or Puppy :)
03:21 Kacey ha it booted
03:21 jordan4ibanez or if you are new to linux, crunchbang, it uses 25m
03:21 VanessaE Kacey: yes I do
03:21 VanessaE kaeza: seems pretty lightweight to me
03:21 kaeza for a 512MB machine?
03:22 VanessaE dunno, my machine has 4GB
03:22 leo_rockway I had LAMP on a computer with 64MB of RAM, Pentium 233mhz.
03:22 VanessaE but ti should be fine for that much too
03:22 leo_rockway it served my blog
03:22 jordan4ibanez is it possible to use multiple skins on a server yet?
03:22 jordan4ibanez I'm not making the tf2 mod until it is lol
03:22 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: since forever.  use Muadtralk's player_textures mod.
03:22 kaeza jordan4ibanez: yes
03:22 Kacey my brain has 8gb at least of RAM
03:22 jordan4ibanez with 3d player?
03:23 kaeza Kacey: of which 7.9 Gigs seem to be broken
03:23 Kacey lol
03:23 Kacey no half of it is inaccessable
03:23 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: yeah.  I have that on my server
03:23 VanessaE seems to work fine for everyone.
03:23 kaeza jordan4ibanez: a tf2 mod?
03:23 kaeza cool
03:24 Kacey tf2?
03:24 VanessaE team fortress
03:24 kaeza Team Fortress 2
03:24 Kacey ooh ok
03:25 kaeza Kacey: though with 512 MB you will only play TFC
03:25 Kacey IT BOOTED!!!!
03:25 VanessaE Kacey: what did?
03:25 Kacey my VM
03:25 Kacey but i must get off
03:26 Kacey bbl k?
03:26 kaeza VanessaE: He wants to boot xubuntu under win xp
03:26 VanessaE oh.  using a VM?
03:26 VanessaE gotchya
03:27 kaeza <Kacey> Quit: Few women admit their age.  Few men act theirs. <-- LOL
03:32 jordan4ibanez Ever since 5:04pm my browser stopped tracking history lol
03:34 NakedFury entered incognito mode?
03:36 VanessaE ain't it the truth.
03:37 kaeza jordan4ibanez: I like that jetpack thing
03:37 jordan4ibanez me too
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03:42 mt_game <singleplayer> jordan4ibanez: how do you get the jetpack? :)
03:42 jordan4ibanez you make it like a boat
03:43 Muadtralk an air boat?
03:43 mt_game <singleplayer> k
03:43 mt_game <singleplayer> oh and nice inv image BTW
03:44 jordan4ibanez <not_singleplayer> ikr
03:44 jordan4ibanez OH
03:44 jordan4ibanez OH
03:44 jordan4ibanez you're in the minetest irc right
03:45 jordan4ibanez the in game ird
03:45 mt_game <singleplayer> yup
03:45 jordan4ibanez irc*
03:45 jordan4ibanez That thing needs to catonize only the last part of the sentence and it would be perfect, to remove the <singelplayer> poop
03:45 mt_game <singleplayer> umm... it tends to go underwater
03:46 jordan4ibanez It's not really a boat broskimctoasty
03:47 mt_game <singleplayer> YAY! the boat is flying!! nice physiz engine
03:47 mt_game <singleplayer> physix
03:47 jordan4ibanez Physics*
03:47 jordan4ibanez PHUZUCKS
03:47 NakedFury what is <singleplayer>?
03:47 mt_game <singleplayer> really nice though
03:48 mt_game <singleplayer> like a free_mode withing noclip
03:48 mt_game <singleplayer> without*
03:48 jordan4ibanez The minetest irc is directly translating what the server is saying
03:48 jordan4ibanez it needs to remove the <asdsddas>
03:49 kaeza NakedFury: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905
03:50 NakedFury if you play online will it say <multiplayer> or <servers name here>?
03:51 kaeza that is configurabl
03:51 kaeza e
03:51 VanessaE kaeza: actually,
03:51 VanessaE do this instead:
03:52 jordan4ibanez Kaeza it's really nice bro
03:52 VanessaE well, make the IRC nick == "mt_game"..player_name..count
03:52 VanessaE (count = number of people on IRC with the desired name)
03:52 jordan4ibanez Hey that's actually a good idea
03:52 kaeza jordan4ibanez: thanks, I know :P
03:52 VanessaE then when someone chats, we would see:  <mt_game_VanessaEzekowitz> Hi All!
03:52 VanessaE makes it easier to tab-complete
03:52 kaeza but wouldn't that require multiple connections?
03:53 VanessaE hrm.
03:53 VanessaE good point.  To an IRC server it would look like a bunch of clones.
03:54 VanessaE you need to at the very least allow for multiple mt_game instances, so that in future let's say I have it, redcrab, you, half a dozen others
03:54 VanessaE we'd all still be able to get on here via your mod.
03:55 kaeza hmm...
03:55 VanessaE maybe just mt_game_12.34.56.78
03:55 kaeza yes
03:55 kaeza I get your point
03:56 kaeza what's the api function to get the current host?
03:56 VanessaE dunno
03:56 kaeza from MT that is
03:57 kaeza I guess socket.gethostname() (from luasocket) should suffice
03:58 kaeza It didn't work for OC
03:58 jordan4ibanez With that couldn't you have people connect to other servers through yours?
03:58 kaeza jordan4ibanez: there's a SERVER variable for that
03:58 jordan4ibanez :O:O:O:O
03:59 kaeza you can connect to ANY IRC network
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03:59 kaeza hola Pulpo
03:59 jordan4ibanez Oh, no i meant to other servers like teleports and poop
03:59 kaeza hmm...
03:59 Octupus Hi
04:00 jordan4ibanez Hi squid
04:00 Octupus Lol
04:01 kaeza jordan4ibanez: what do you mean connect to other servers?
04:02 kaeza like "teleport" to other servers?
04:02 jordan4ibanez Basically, d/c then r/c to another server
04:02 kaeza not quite yet
04:03 kaeza I'm trying to get it working correctly first :)
04:03 kaeza care to test it?
04:03 jordan4ibanez Test what exactly?
04:03 kaeza If you can connect
04:03 kaeza OC couldn't
04:03 kaeza and KikaRz neither
04:04 jordan4ibanez Sure
04:04 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8KzZpX0evc&amp;feature=youtu.be Why
04:04 jordan4ibanez Just
04:04 jordan4ibanez Why
04:04 kaeza NOOOO
04:04 kaeza YYYYY?????
04:05 kaeza oh heck "This video is currently unavailable"
04:06 kaeza jordan4ibanez: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc if you would
04:08 jordan4ibanez Hang on, working on guns_n_poop
04:10 kaeza If there would be a callback for F12 I could also add screenshot sharing
04:11 VanessaE kaeza: first get your IRC-related code patched into MT :-)
04:12 kaeza hmm...
04:12 kaeza good
04:12 VanessaE kaeza: btw, go on my server.  look at the inventory :)
04:12 kaeza if only I could understand the mess the C++ code is :)
04:13 kaeza k
04:13 kaeza going in
04:13 kaeza erm...
04:13 kaeza Internet Protocol Address plz
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04:14 kaeza I'm writing it down this time
04:14 kaeza VanessaE: ^
04:20 kaeza :(
04:21 VanessaE ok
04:22 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000
04:22 VanessaE yes, use that pencil and paper thing sitting on your desk.  I seem to recall they
04:22 VanessaE they're designed for that purpose ;-)
04:27 kaeza I can't find the pencil until I get rid of the garbage I have sitting on top of my desk
04:27 kaeza :)
04:28 VanessaE lol
04:30 * kaeza is secretly doing a marketing campaing for VanessaE's server
04:30 VanessaE heh
04:30 VanessaE careful, mine is bleeding edge, so some stuff may break from time to time :-)
04:30 kaeza k
04:32 kaeza VanessaE: I want that inventory!
04:32 VanessaE :D
04:32 kaeza It's awesomesauce(tm)
04:32 VanessaE that's RBA's Unified Inventory mod.  the C++ code it needed has been pushed to git master about 10 hours ago today
04:33 VanessaE so now I run it on my server :-)
04:33 kaeza cool
04:33 kaeza and the search works
04:34 kaeza don't need to browse through 1923 pages again!
04:34 VanessaE yes!
04:34 kaeza I just searched for "wood" and it shows all wooden stuff
04:34 kaeza cool
04:35 VanessaE yup, or at least everything where the mod writer was smart enough to say it's made of wood :-)
04:36 kaeza I'm gonna DL this mod
04:37 kaeza BTW how's plantlife working?
04:37 VanessaE weems to be okay except for one minor bug
04:37 VanessaE (jungle grass keeps turning into dry shrubs even on grass, unless those are leftovers from a previous version.
04:38 kaeza hmm...
04:38 kaeza that's not too bad
04:39 kaeza I see you added technic too
04:39 VanessaE yep, had that for a while
04:40 RealBadAngel tip: searching by modname also works
04:40 kaeza hey RBA
04:40 RealBadAngel hi
04:41 kaeza well... since the item name includes the mod name I already guessed that was possible
04:41 kaeza but thanks for the tip
04:41 RealBadAngel not really
04:42 RealBadAngel it does actually two searches
04:42 RealBadAngel by description and by ingame item name
04:42 kaeza oohhh
04:42 jordan4ibanez RBA what happened to the tecnhic of tekkitnich
04:43 RealBadAngel so you can search "technic" to get all the mods items
04:43 kaeza so in my example even if the mod dev didn't include "wood" in the name but did so on desc the item will be found
04:43 RealBadAngel will be back on the own page
04:43 RealBadAngel anyway is still on git
04:44 RealBadAngel kaeza: yes
04:44 kaeza cool
04:44 kaeza jordan4ibanez: tecnhic?
04:44 jordan4ibanez teackhznitch
04:44 RealBadAngel lol
04:47 kaeza http://cheezburger.com/6822771968
04:47 kaeza ^
04:47 kaeza FTW!
04:48 kaeza just like 2012-12-12 12:12, it won't be seen till next millenium
04:51 jordan4ibanez I can't remember how to give an entity a drawtype
04:51 jordan4ibanez WHATS HAPPENING TO MEEEE
04:52 RealBadAngel sclerosis multipleksis
04:53 RealBadAngel stop eating so much fats
04:53 RealBadAngel :)
04:54 kaeza And then... BSOD: http://cheezburger.com/6823233280
04:55 RealBadAngel if some1 would like to test it:
04:55 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/technic_ambience.zip
04:55 RealBadAngel my version of ambience mod
04:55 kaeza ambience lagged the hell out of my pc
04:55 RealBadAngel one time lag
04:56 RealBadAngel once cached its ok
04:56 kaeza I'll try it
04:58 jordan4ibanez Makingthegunzisfunz
04:58 kaeza hey! look at this: http://cheezburger.com/6818912512
04:58 kaeza cool
05:02 VanessaE oh that'll fuck with your head
05:05 kaeza :)
05:15 jordan4ibanez http://freesound.org/people/junggle/sounds/29301/
05:15 jordan4ibanez lmfao
05:16 jordan4ibanez Can we use it in minetest's menus celeron55 can we pweaaaaaaaaaase
05:16 jordan4ibanez just kidding
05:17 kaeza can't play it :(
05:17 jordan4ibanez It's minecraft's menu button sound
05:17 kaeza ok nvm
05:18 kaeza though I would like someone to add UI sounds
05:23 kaeza gawd I write badly in english, but this guy is trying to google-translate using borked spanish: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3930
05:26 jordan4ibanez klik here
05:32 kaeza hey this faildesk.net site is awesome
05:32 kaeza look at this: http://faildesk.net/2012/02/21/finally-a-true-purpose-for-internet-explorer/
05:37 leo_rockway kaeza: that google translate fail was painful to read :S
05:38 kaeza you too?
05:38 leo_rockway particularly the bits that got untranslated because of bad Spanish
05:39 kaeza I still can't guess what's he saying in the post
05:39 leo_rockway I guess it's a minetest game?
05:39 leo_rockway with things from the technic mod...??
05:39 kaeza there you see my bas englisch^^
05:39 kaeza bad*
05:40 leo_rockway but your English is understandable
05:40 leo_rockway it's not bad
05:40 kaeza creo que sería mejor si lo posteara en la sección en Español
05:40 leo_rockway sí, definitivamente
05:41 VanessaE Error while reading /dev/minetest: parse error; language pack not found
05:41 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/566f7f638a00a698a25b73adc2e619fe63e1a802 I didn't crank that up, pilzadam did, mine was at 3.5 lol
05:41 kaeza BTW thanks :)
05:41 kaeza hmm... checking
05:42 RealBadAngel its a modpack
05:42 kaeza VanessaE: lol
05:42 RealBadAngel i mean this spanish one
05:43 RealBadAngel mixed with minetest game
05:43 kaeza would it be better if I spoke japanese?
05:43 RealBadAngel weirdo
05:43 kaeza in*
05:43 RealBadAngel hehe
05:43 kaeza arigato
05:43 kaeza or whatever
05:43 RealBadAngel hai
05:44 kaeza I CAN HAZ MINETEST 0.
05:44 kaeza 4.5?
05:44 RealBadAngel mod packs shall not be mixed with minetest_game
05:44 kaeza RealBadAngel: that's the 11th
05:45 kaeza ummm...
05:45 kaeza what was the word?
05:45 kaeza commandment
05:45 RealBadAngel theres other way to do modpacks
05:45 RealBadAngel lol
05:46 RealBadAngel put the mods inside one directory in /mods/minetest/your_modpack_name
05:46 RealBadAngel and add there also a file: modpack.txt
05:47 RealBadAngel it will indicate that it is the modpack and mods will be loaded from subdirectories
05:47 kaeza I did that for V's grass mods before she released plantlife
05:47 RealBadAngel theres also another valid reason for that
05:48 RealBadAngel minetest and minetest game changes often
05:48 kaeza what?
05:48 kaeza yes
05:48 kaeza true
05:48 RealBadAngel this way you will overwrite default mods even user had them up to date
05:48 kaeza that's why most packages on any linux distro have separate xxx-data packs
05:49 jordan4ibanez Vanessae: Please make this my skin on your server http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/568249/dj-enderman/
05:49 RealBadAngel and your pack will become outdated and in fact broken in no time
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05:49 kaeza hey Calinou
05:49 RealBadAngel hi calinou
05:50 RealBadAngel Calinou, do you have latest git already?
05:50 Calinou hi
05:50 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: done.
05:50 Calinou RealBadAngel: for minetest? of course :P
05:50 jordan4ibanez AEAWJAAKASD what is your server vaneessa?
05:50 RealBadAngel Calinou, then try this out: http://realbadangel.pl/UI.zip
05:50 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000
05:51 RealBadAngel or connect to the server above
05:51 kaeza RealBadAngel: great work on that one
05:51 VanessaE Calinou: you will need minetest git less than ~12 hours old to use it (the code it needs is that recent)
05:51 kaeza I've seen it in V's server
05:52 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: seems to work.
05:52 Calinou k
05:52 Calinou wow, new lighting looks much better
05:52 RealBadAngel check the inventory :)
05:52 VanessaE Calinou: look at glow glass :(
05:53 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/fa76057e7f6811a8e7388a70d6fde7af61aa0bee It's about fucking time
05:53 Calinou does it use shaders, or was the lighting just tweaked?
05:53 RealBadAngel shaders
05:53 jordan4ibanez Shaders
05:53 Calinou k
05:53 jordan4ibanez Hey this is becoming a real game
05:53 RealBadAngel check also the water
05:53 Calinou doors are still darker than other geometry, they should let light pass through...
05:53 Calinou :/
05:53 Calinou like many other common items
05:54 RealBadAngel yup
05:54 RealBadAngel but at least we have improvements
05:54 kaeza hmmm... Calinou made me thing
05:54 kaeza think*
05:54 Calinou blocks in hand don't have correct lighting, too
05:54 kaeza is there a group for that?
05:55 kaeza I mean, the basic door has a window in it
05:55 Calinou new checkboxes in main menu!
05:55 kaeza so it should at least let some light pass through
05:55 jordan4ibanez Really?
05:55 jordan4ibanez I'm installing ubuntu 12 just to try out new version
05:56 kaeza but the wooden door from the xdoors mod should not
05:56 jordan4ibanez calinou: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3928
05:56 Calinou what does shaders bring, other than lower water surface/smooth lighting?
05:57 kaeza hmm... while on that, are there any plans to do antialiasing/anisotropic filtering?
05:57 RealBadAngel its still WIP
05:57 RealBadAngel kaeza, this stuff is already here
05:58 kaeza how?
05:58 kaeza sorry for asking :P
05:58 VanessaE kaeza: Settings tab.
05:58 jordan4ibanez You'll never know kaeza
05:59 jordan4ibanez MWAHAHAAKFASJ
05:59 kaeza lol
05:59 kaeza VanessaE: thanks
05:59 RealBadAngel heheheh
05:59 kaeza WOW
05:59 VanessaE np.
05:59 kaeza I didn't see the new settings page
06:00 RealBadAngel what version are you using?
06:00 kaeza last time I checked it had only 4 checkboxes
06:00 kaeza RealBadAngel: 0.4.4-dev with shaders
06:00 kaeza I think it's the latest
06:01 leo_rockway kaeza: it's been in for about a week or two
06:02 kaeza I don't visit the settings page regularly
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06:02 kaeza mt_game is me
06:02 kaeza gosh I have to disable that thing
06:02 leo_rockway I only noticed because there was a post about it
06:03 mt_game <singleplayer> but It's cool anyways
06:03 mt_game <singleplayer> meh. I like the blocky textures better
06:04 leo_rockway I like AA and stuff, when it's far. Up close it doesn't look too good.
06:05 kaeza leo_rockway: care to test it?
06:05 leo_rockway test what?
06:05 kaeza the mod
06:05 kaeza irc
06:05 leo_rockway I was planning to. I will in a bit. I'm chatting with my girlfriend at the moment.
06:05 Calinou leo_rockway: if you want pixelized textures but no noise effect at distance, just use mipmapping :P
06:07 leo_rockway mipmapping alone looks good unless you're using lowres textures.
06:07 leo_rockway I usually keep mipmapping.
06:08 jordan4ibanez so now minetest has optifine built in?
06:10 Calinou no
06:22 kaeza <offtopic>I LOL'd: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&amp;id=2807#comic </offtopic>
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06:30 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3930 < wtf
06:30 Calinou my eyes are bleeding
06:30 kaeza Calinou: See further above in the IRC log
06:31 kaeza (03:20:16) kaeza: gawd I write badly in english, but this guy is trying to google-translate using borked spanish: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3930
06:31 kaeza (03:23:24) jordan4ibanez: klik here
06:31 kaeza (03:29:51) kaeza: hey this faildesk.net site is awesome
06:31 kaeza (03:34:41) leo_rockway: kaeza: that google translate fail was painful to read :S
06:31 kaeza (
06:31 kaeza sorry for flooding
06:33 Calinou np
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06:40 jordan4ibanez Wow this version is getting polished
06:41 jordan4ibanez that water height is a nice touch
06:41 jordan4ibanez Dare i say it, minetest feels like minecraft beta 1.3
06:42 jordan4ibanez All this needs is a way to get texture packs from zip files and it will official make me not want to play minecraft anymore
06:42 jordan4ibanez from the gui that is
06:42 kaeza +100
06:43 jordan4ibanez Wow these shaders make minetest look as good as minecraft
06:43 Calinou no smooth lighting on nodeboxes, unlike minecraft
06:43 Calinou :p
06:44 RealBadAngel aim is to look better than mc
06:44 RealBadAngel be patient please :)
06:45 jordan4ibanez Right now it looks like beta 1.7.3
06:45 RealBadAngel we are developing it way faster
06:46 jordan4ibanez I can tell, that water level thing looks really nice, you guys should put in the innirtia jeija put into blockplanet, which made walking smoother, and diving into liquids smoother, like you just don't stop, you slowly slow down
06:47 Calinou +1, maybe remove air control too
06:47 Calinou (make it very small so that you can still climb blocks by jumping)
06:47 Calinou i'd like to have more realistic physics than in minecraft, but these should be optional
06:48 jordan4ibanez There was also something jeija did so you cannot fly through nodes
06:48 Calinou it's better to be able to fly through nodes
06:48 Calinou don't clone a MC mistake
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06:49 jordan4ibanez That's not better, then you can see that the nodes are not solid and it ruins the feeling of the map
06:49 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/Jeija/BlockPlanet/commits/master
06:49 jordan4ibanez the sneeking animation was my favorite
06:50 Calinou sneaking should be walking, not crouching
06:50 Calinou IRL, when you want to walk carefully, do you suddenly become smaller? nope :P
06:51 Calinou jordan4ibanez: about graphics, we still don't have model lighting
06:51 Calinou texture brightness is the same on all faces
06:52 jordan4ibanez I just gave you guys the goldmine of c++ changes, please use them, Eating animation/inertia/breathing bar (for underwater)/hunger/hunger bar Please use some of them
06:53 jordan4ibanez Sneaking is slightly crouching down
06:56 leo_rockway that, plus arrow shooting animation o.o
06:56 leo_rockway and FOV for running
06:56 jordan4ibanez Yea, and minetest++ has running and fov that adjusts when you run
06:56 jordan4ibanez and it uses your hunger bar faster
06:56 leo_rockway MT has running too
06:57 jordan4ibanez No, real running
06:57 leo_rockway I tried MT++, I don't remember the difference.
06:58 jordan4ibanez We added in so much stuff it was rediculous
06:58 leo_rockway I don't like how the water feels in MT
06:59 leo_rockway it feels a bit like jello
06:59 jordan4ibanez Yes, that was fixed in minetest, somewhere, you'll have to ask jeija
06:59 leo_rockway and jumping feels a bit too high
07:00 leo_rockway I think the better digging animation is in MT already
07:00 jordan4ibanez Here, I've found the rest of the commits https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commits/master
07:00 Calinou your're cloning minecraft with hunger
07:00 jordan4ibanez This whole game is a clone of minecraft.
07:01 Calinou i'm not against sprinting, but 1) it should use a single key, not double-tap, 2) stamina would be ok, but please no hunger
07:01 Calinou hunger artificially grows difficulty of the game
07:02 jordan4ibanez That's actually a good idea, i think e should be sprint not double tap
07:02 leo_rockway I don't like double tap
07:02 jordan4ibanez That's how it should've been in minecraft, why don't we fix that?
07:02 leo_rockway sprinting bar?
07:03 jordan4ibanez No, sprinting button
07:03 leo_rockway I don't know if MT needs a hunger bar, but it does need something that forces you out of your house / secure location
07:03 leo_rockway there's a fast button now
07:03 leo_rockway it could be turned into a fast button
07:03 leo_rockway into a sprinting button*
07:05 jordan4ibanez I hope celeron55, or pilzadam, or xyz or SOMEONE puts the better physics/water physics in minetest, it made the game feel better
07:06 leo_rockway yes, it did
07:06 Calinou jordan4ibanez: sprint is doubletap in mc
07:07 jordan4ibanez Yes, so why not make it e?
07:07 leo_rockway doubletap sprinting in MC felt annoying
07:07 Calinou leo_rockway: fast and sprinting should be different
07:07 Calinou jordan4ibanez: or any other key, i suggest shift as default, and put ctrl for sneak
07:07 leo_rockway keep fast as a privilege and sprinting as something normal?
07:07 Calinou leo_rockway: sprinting takes stamina, makes you walk 40% faster
07:07 leo_rockway with a stamina thing
07:07 leo_rockway yeah, that sounds good to me
07:07 Calinou fast makes you walk 5x faster, no stamina used, requires priv
07:08 jordan4ibanez We had stamina/hunger/air tuned better than minecraft
07:08 leo_rockway I'm leo_rockway and I approve this message
07:08 jordan4ibanez and i'm building it right now to see how it felt
07:08 Calinou now code it :p
07:08 leo_rockway :S
07:08 Calinou also, jumping would also take some stamina, and walking makes it regen slower
07:09 leo_rockway and what about all the eating? there's apples, food mod, animals to cook...
07:09 leo_rockway and the food only replenishes health right now
07:10 jordan4ibanez It replenished hunger bar in minetest++
07:11 jordan4ibanez in the second version i posted, jeija hadn't tuned the sprint yet, so there's an instant transition, but the physics feel solid :D
07:15 kaeza does anynoe know how to do port forwarding on a huawei e1756? I googled it and can't find any useful answer
07:15 Calinou since when huawei makes routers?
07:15 Calinou :o
07:15 Calinou kaeza: portforward.com :p
07:16 Calinou anyway, usually you have to go to 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.0
07:16 Calinou then log in (username/password should be written on router), go to NAT
07:16 Calinou forward port 30000 in UDP to your internal IP
07:16 kaeza Calinou: thanks
07:16 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/fiQFF.png Look how freakin polished this looks :o
07:18 leo_rockway MC FTL
07:18 jordan4ibanez lol what?
07:18 Calinou faithful textures :p
07:19 jordan4ibanez Yes, they're really nice, i wish there was a technic part of them
07:19 VanessaE there.
07:19 VanessaE Gloopores is in HDX.
07:19 VanessaE (yet I still have to update it again later to get homedecor up to date :-) )
07:20 jordan4ibanez bb
07:21 leo_rockway Minecraft for the lose o.o
07:22 Calinou loss
07:23 kaeza VanessaE: have you added farming[_plus] to HDX?
07:29 VanessaE no
07:30 VanessaE too lazy to get the textures for it :-)
07:30 kaeza hmm...
07:31 kaeza I tried wikimedia but there are no useful textures
07:42 Calinou since when wikimedia has textures
07:42 Calinou good ones*
07:43 * OldCoder is tired
07:44 * OldCoder will rest now
07:44 kaeza whatever, you get what i'm trying to say
07:44 kaeza bye Coder
07:44 OldCoder c u
07:45 kaeza I may as well follow your lead shortly
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07:56 marktraceur "bad argument #2 to 'get_craft_result' (table expected, got userdata)" <-- anyone come across this before?
07:57 marktraceur (since there shouldn't be a second argument to get_craft_result, and I don't supply one, it's a very strange error)
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08:02 marktraceur Apparently constructing an ItemStack isn't the best way to do that
08:02 marktraceur (check for the fuel-ness of an item)
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08:08 kaeza hi marktraceur
08:08 marktraceur Hi!
08:08 marktraceur I figured it out, FYI
08:08 marktraceur Er
08:08 marktraceur Worked around it, I guess
08:08 kaeza hmm...
08:09 kaeza marktraceur: if you are interested... https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc
08:10 marktraceur Meh
08:10 kaeza also shaders are now in master
08:10 marktraceur Maybe sometime, but I don't really need it
08:10 marktraceur And once shaders are released, I'll get excited, until then
08:10 marktraceur I can't use them for much
08:11 kaeza hello sfan5
08:11 leo_rockway now that water is a bit lower, the calculation for when to turn the screen a blueish hue is a bit off
08:11 sfan5 hi kaeza
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08:12 kaeza .c 1/0
08:12 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
08:12 kaeza I love this thing
08:13 marktraceur *sigh*
08:13 sfan5 kaeza: could you merge this: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc/pull/1
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08:13 marktraceur Hrm, interesting....InvRef:remove_item isn't working very well....or maybe my quackulations are off? /me will check
08:14 kaeza sfan5: ok
08:14 kaeza hmm...
08:14 leo_rockway kaeza: what needs compiling for irc-mod?
08:16 kaeza leo_rockway: just CMake
08:16 kaeza nothing more nothing less
08:16 RealBadAngel sfan5,  my patch is in the main tree, check this mod out now: http://realbadangel.pl/UI.zip
08:17 RealBadAngel delete of default creative is recommended
08:17 leo_rockway kaeza: but I see luasocket, luairc, lua...
08:17 leo_rockway in src/
08:17 leo_rockway I'm guessing this depends on those
08:17 kaeza they are self-contained, so it should be just CMake
08:18 leo_rockway okay
08:18 kaeza and of course a C compiler
08:18 leo_rockway yeah, of course
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08:18 RealBadAngel real hardcore compile their code themselves, doesnt need compiler to do the job ;)
08:19 RealBadAngel i know a guy that back in 80's dissasembled ZX Spectrum ROM
08:20 RealBadAngel he borrowed a monitor to run the machine
08:20 RealBadAngel started program to READ aloud byte by byte
08:20 RealBadAngel of rom, wrote it down
08:21 RealBadAngel then in school, during lessons he dissasembled it
08:21 RealBadAngel all 16kb
08:22 RealBadAngel he is the best nerd i even seen
08:23 kaeza RealBadAngel: cool
08:23 RealBadAngel he can even multiply and divide in hex in memory
08:23 kaeza you don't see such nerds so often now
08:23 RealBadAngel yup, thats sad
08:24 RealBadAngel we were doing some weird things in assembler
08:24 RealBadAngel but he was a few levels above us
08:24 kaeza sfan5: sorry for the delay, I'm just starting in this git stuff
08:25 RealBadAngel now by nerd folks mean some1 able to use IE and Word ;)
08:26 kaeza RealBadAngel: that's very true... and sad at the same time
08:26 kaeza sfan5: merged
08:26 RealBadAngel kids have too much to choose from
08:26 RealBadAngel and choose easy ways
08:27 RealBadAngel we were forced to learn assembler to get something done
08:27 kaeza before you had to deal with Lisp and thigs like thes
08:27 kaeza or even build your own parser
08:27 RealBadAngel Basic wasnt just enough
08:27 kaeza yeah
08:28 kaeza I remember typing games I saw on magazines
08:28 kaeza back in my days
08:28 RealBadAngel golden days indeed
08:28 kaeza yep :)
08:28 kaeza not everyone could afford a disk drive
08:29 sfan5 kaeza: thanks
08:29 RealBadAngel disk drive, oh my
08:29 kaeza or tape player :)
08:29 RealBadAngel i remember playing with tape recorders
08:29 RealBadAngel givin to the moter twice as high voltage
08:29 RealBadAngel to roll the tape faster
08:30 RealBadAngel and make the TURBO loading for ZX Speccy
08:30 kaeza lol DAT NOISE
08:30 kaeza now every n008 codes a bit in PowerBasic or such half-assed language and release it on a $1 CD
08:31 kaeza and BAMM! they are Mojang :)
08:31 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdwK1vBnZ7A
08:31 kaeza next they release some half assed game
08:32 kaeza which some half-assed coders are now mimicking
08:32 kaeza :)
08:32 kaeza J/K
08:33 kaeza ahhh... the sound of youth
08:33 * kaeza is remembering old times
08:34 kaeza sadly my Speccy died a few years ago
08:34 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFD2zfD6qa8
08:34 RealBadAngel watch this, you gonna rotfl
08:36 leo_rockway I have a cassette adapter. I wonder if this can be used for a C64 as well o.o
08:37 kaeza RealBadAngel: he's a great SoaB
08:37 RealBadAngel it should work also
08:37 RealBadAngel same way
08:38 leo_rockway time to remove the dust off of my C64
08:39 kaeza RealBadAngel: I still don't believe what I saw
08:39 RealBadAngel hehehe
08:39 kaeza coolness incorporated
08:39 RealBadAngel could you belive web browser on atari 800 xl?
08:40 RealBadAngel i saw it in action :)
08:40 kaeza wat
08:40 kaeza best I saw was a browser for DOS 2.0
08:40 kaeza what was it...
08:41 kaeza 286?
08:41 kaeza but atari??
08:42 kaeza hmm...
08:42 kaeza I also saw a Win95 clone for Gameboy
08:42 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0b9LED6vJQ
08:43 kaeza "This video is currently unavailable"
08:43 kaeza :(
08:43 kaeza youtube doesn't like me
08:44 RealBadAngel dunno why, im watchin it right now
08:45 kaeza but I believe if we removed all the bullshit HTML has, even the speccy could have a decent browser
08:46 kaeza (if there was a network adapter that is)
08:46 Calinou kaeza: youtube-dl
08:46 Calinou sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
08:46 Calinou youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0b9LED6vJQ
08:46 Calinou there you go
08:46 kaeza heck
08:46 kaeza hell yeah!!
08:46 kaeza I forgot about youtube-dl
08:46 RealBadAngel theres also online one
08:47 kaeza vid something
08:47 kaeza can't remember
08:47 kaeza heck I even made a youtube-dl frontend using gtkdialog
08:48 RealBadAngel http://keepvid.com/?url=www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0b9LED6vJQ
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08:48 RealBadAngel use keepvid just
08:48 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
08:48 kaeza yeah that is Keepvid
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08:48 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam
08:48 leo- <singleplayer> greetings from within minetest
08:48 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, http://realbadangel.pl/UI.zip
08:48 leo- <singleplayer> kaeza: I didn't compile anything. I installed luasockets and lua-irc-git from AUR.
08:48 RealBadAngel test it with latest git :)
08:48 kaeza hey
08:49 kaeza leo
08:49 kaeza it worked
08:49 leo- <singleplayer> indeed
08:49 kaeza cool
08:49 kaeza how do you feel?
08:49 kaeza any lag?
08:49 leo- <singleplayer> nope
08:50 kaeza you using linux?
08:50 Calinou what's the ip of your server?
08:50 leo- <singleplayer> Arch
08:50 kaeza RealBadAngel: downloading...
08:50 kaeza oh
08:50 marktraceur Ugh, this mod can get finished later.
08:50 * marktraceur goes to bed
08:51 kaeza bye mt
08:51 kaeza mark*
08:51 marktraceur marktraceur*
08:51 kaeza k
08:51 kaeza sowwy
08:51 kaeza :)
08:51 leo- <singleplayer> opaque water works \o/
08:51 * Calinou tried to code player yaw smoothing again, failed
08:51 leo- <singleplayer> also, I fixed my Irrlicht colour problems using a post in the forum =]
08:51 marktraceur kaeza: Tab-completion, it's useful :)
08:51 Calinou i looked through like 15 code files to find how to get entity's yaws
08:51 * leo_rockway test something
08:52 Calinou best i did was 3 errors :>
08:52 leo- <singleplayer> kaeza: the /me commands are not showing up in MT.
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08:52 kaeza hmmm...
08:52 kaeza lemme see
08:52 leo- <singleplayer> kaeza: not from actual IRC into MT, not from MT into actual IRC.
08:52 kaeza oh that
08:53 kaeza lemme see what I can do about it
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08:54 leo_rockway kaeza: PRIVMSG #minetest :ACTION
08:54 leo_rockway check for those
08:54 Zeg9 joined #minetest
08:54 kaeza I'm on it
08:55 leo_rockway =] I like this mod
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08:55 leo_rockway thanks, kaeza!
08:55 kaeza thanks to you for remembering me :)
08:55 kaeza about it
08:55 kaeza that is
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08:57 kaeza k now testing
08:59 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: I like the UI.
08:59 leo_rockway I should go to sleep
08:59 leo_rockway I'm supposed to be on call starting in 3 hours :S
08:59 leo_rockway goodnight
09:01 kaeza night leo
09:03 sfan5 new minetest build building!!
09:03 jin_xi RealBadAngel: how do i test your unified inv? just install it like a mod? anything else?
09:04 PilzAdam remove creative inv
09:04 RealBadAngel and install it as a mod
09:04 sfan5 and install http://realbadangel.pl/UI.zip
09:04 jin_xi 3 guys one answer hehe
09:04 RealBadAngel git repo coming shortly
09:04 RealBadAngel hehe
09:05 jin_xi whare/which creative do i delete?
09:05 RealBadAngel /games/mintest_game
09:06 jin_xi oh
09:06 RealBadAngel look for creative there and delete the folder just
09:06 RealBadAngel believe me, you wont miss it :)
09:09 sfan5 new minetest build for win: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-566f7f6-win32.7z
09:09 kaeza sfan5: cool
09:10 kaeza though I don't need it :D
09:10 kaeza personally that is
09:11 RealBadAngel thx sfan5
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09:11 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/unifiedinventory
09:14 RealBadAngel i will create topic in forums for it
09:15 RealBadAngel and please all feel free to comment on usage and possible improvements
09:16 jin_xi Hey RealBadAngel i think it would be good if you restored technic mod on the forums
09:16 hmmmm Enterprise solution - solvent used for dissolving excessive piles of cash in corporate vaults.
09:17 RealBadAngel jin_xi, it will be restored, together with its own page
09:17 jin_xi oh ok
09:18 kaeza RealBadAngel: now its 110% awesome :D
09:23 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54671#p54671
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09:27 kaeza RealBadAngel: I'm amazed at that web browser.
09:28 kaeza I just can't believe it
09:28 kaeza how's that even possible?
09:28 jin_xi yeah, very nice
09:29 kaeza jin_xi: http://minetest.net/forum/index.php
09:29 RealBadAngel some1 made ethernet card for 800xl simply :)
09:29 kaeza sorry
09:29 kaeza wrong link
09:29 kaeza jin_xi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0b9LED6vJQ
09:30 kaeza that partly explains it
09:30 kaeza RBA^
09:30 kaeza hmmm...
09:37 jin_xi i learned english trying to read manuals of Sozobon C. That and maniac mansion ;)
09:46 OldCoder Good morning
09:46 kotolegokot Good afternoon :)
09:46 kaeza morning OC
09:47 kaeza jin_xi: videogames were my teachers :)
09:48 kaeza I have a favor to ask of forum mods
09:48 kaeza could it be possible to create a sub-forum for spanish speakers?
09:52 Calinou juse use "discussion in other languages"
09:52 jin_xi el barrio
09:53 kaeza ok
09:54 kaeza jin_xi: ...
09:55 jin_xi sry i dont even know spanish :D
09:56 kaeza no hay problema :)
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09:57 home hello everyone^^
09:57 kaeza hey Taoki
09:57 OldCoder Hi
09:57 home ohh hey oldcoder
09:57 home :)
09:57 kaeza ummm... hi home?
09:57 home lol
09:58 home i havent register yet so ignore it lol
09:58 home oldcoder
09:58 kaeza ...?
09:58 OldCoder ?
09:58 home i need ur help
09:58 OldCoder k
09:58 home forgive me if i sound rude
09:58 OldCoder Go on
09:58 home i posted a texture
09:58 home on the Zeg9 forum
09:58 OldCoder k
09:58 home its my skin
09:58 home ummm
09:58 OldCoder Fine
09:59 OldCoder Link?
09:59 home im still not textured lol
09:59 OldCoder Link?
09:59 home hold on
09:59 home link to the forum??
09:59 OldCoder I have not been presented yet with the skin
09:59 OldCoder The post
09:59 home aight boss
09:59 OldCoder or the two images
10:00 home http://minetest.web1337.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=3&amp;sid=28aecf8abc8cc38ba730e2d37177bb41
10:00 home ^^
10:00 OldCoder Wait
10:00 home lol
10:00 home aight boss
10:00 OldCoder Are you Ghostash?
10:00 OldCoder Or Klunk?
10:00 OldCoder home, ^
10:00 home Ghostash
10:01 home ^^
10:01 OldCoder I updated you
10:01 OldCoder Hold on
10:01 OldCoder Verifying
10:01 OldCoder Ah
10:02 OldCoder You are updated in every world *but* Zegaton :-)
10:02 OldCoder All of them are you
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10:02 home so i need to reconnect?
10:02 OldCoder I must fix Zegaton separately
10:02 OldCoder home, Not yet
10:02 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi
10:02 OldCoder home, I will fix it now
10:02 john_minetest hi
10:02 OldCoder Allow a few minutes
10:02 home oh hello john ^^
10:02 home its me Ghostash
10:03 john_minetest hi Ghostash
10:03 kaeza hey john_minetest
10:03 home hello ^^
10:03 Zeg9 OldCoder, why don't you make a symbolic link for all player_textures ?
10:03 OldCoder Explain?
10:03 OldCoder To display?
10:03 OldCoder Sure
10:04 OldCoder Working on things now
10:04 home ohh heyy zeg^^
10:04 OldCoder Zeg9, two questions for you:
10:04 home its me Ghostash
10:04 Zeg9 brb :/
10:04 OldCoder 1. You left me an inv_advanced mod
10:04 OldCoder Wanted to use that instead of the other?
10:04 OldCoder 2. Was there a new description mod?
10:04 OldCoder Done
10:04 OldCoder Zeg9, ^
10:05 OldCoder home, allow a few minutes
10:05 OldCoder I am fixing things thank you
10:05 home allow??
10:05 OldCoder Yes
10:05 OldCoder I request patience
10:05 home ohh LOL
10:05 home take ur time :)
10:06 OldCoder I wish to ask Zeg9 those two questions before proceeding
10:06 home aight boss
10:06 Zeg9 Back
10:06 OldCoder Zeg9 see two questions above
10:07 Zeg9 The inv_improved mod is for places/descriptions
10:07 OldCoder Zeg9, how does it work?
10:08 Zeg9 In the inventory, there is a "My places" button
10:08 OldCoder Go on
10:08 Zeg9 When you click on it, you can save a place, with its name and description
10:08 OldCoder Ah
10:08 Zeg9 If you want to see these places, they are saved in world/places
10:08 OldCoder I will see this then!
10:08 OldCoder It is in your world
10:08 OldCoder you can ask others to use this?
10:08 OldCoder Will this work in other worlds?
10:08 Zeg9 It will, if you of course install it there too
10:09 Zeg9 Could you link it to the webserver too?
10:09 OldCoder Does it conflict with anything but inv_skin?
10:09 OldCoder Yes
10:09 OldCoder All the mods are there for you
10:09 Zeg9 Oh...
10:09 OldCoder I will document this
10:09 OldCoder Does it conflict with anything but inv_skin?
10:09 Zeg9 It conflicts with inventory plus :/
10:09 OldCoder Does it conflict with anything but inv_plus
10:09 OldCoder Does anybody need inv_plus ?
10:09 Zeg9 It will conflict with any mod which modifies the inventory
10:09 OldCoder Examples?
10:09 Zeg9 I may make it compatible with inv_plus though
10:10 OldCoder What mods are barred?
10:10 Zeg9 inv_plus, and all mods that depend on it
10:10 OldCoder Can you name any examples?
10:10 OldCoder Or is a change simple?
10:10 Zeg9 Example: bags, home gui
10:10 OldCoder Ah
10:10 Zeg9 I'll just make it compatible with inv_plus I think
10:10 OldCoder Can't use it elsewhere then
10:11 OldCoder Thanks
10:11 OldCoder Let me know
10:11 OldCoder Does anybody else wish skins mods or changes today?
10:11 OldCoder To any world?
10:14 RealBadAngel hi Oldcoder
10:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi!
10:14 RealBadAngel are the worlds up to date with git?
10:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, which git?
10:14 OldCoder Do you mean 0.4.4 ?
10:14 RealBadAngel yes
10:14 OldCoder No as it does not support LevelDB
10:15 RealBadAngel its still not fixed?
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10:15 OldCoder RealBadAngel, any mod changes recently?
10:15 Aqua Hi on my ipad
10:15 RealBadAngel yup
10:15 OldCoder Such as?
10:15 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54671#p54671
10:15 Aqua I like your creative
10:15 OldCoder R
10:15 OldCoder Aqua, hi
10:15 RealBadAngel but this requires very latest git
10:15 OldCoder No dice then ty
10:16 OldCoder Plus we will need all new clients for 0.4.4
10:16 Aqua Actually works on ipad=D
10:16 OldCoder And I am told it crashes
10:16 OldCoder Aqua, really?
10:16 Aqua Yep
10:16 OldCoder Good
10:16 Aqua Does 0.4.4 run on windows?
10:17 OldCoder Not sure
10:17 kaeza Aqua: sfan5 has a build I think
10:17 kaeza oh gone
10:17 OldCoder Aqua has made a mailbox mod
10:17 OldCoder Is it useful?
10:17 sfan5 ...
10:17 kaeza not really
10:18 kaeza It could be improved
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10:18 sfan5 i have to restart my computer just because this shitty gvfs-fuse-daemon fucked up :/
10:18 kaeza Aqua: sfan has a build I think
10:18 OldCoder Useful Deserts is updated
10:18 sfan5 Aqua: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-566f7f6-win32.7z
10:18 home oldcoder? sry to interrupt
10:18 Aqua Oldcoder are you a computer engineer or something?
10:18 OldCoder Yes
10:19 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/
10:19 home umm
10:19 OldCoder home, go on
10:19 OldCoder I will be done soon
10:19 home aight boss
10:19 OldCoder I am updating mods
10:19 OldCoder Such as Useful Deserts
10:19 kaeza You are BoldCoder?
10:19 OldCoder Yes
10:19 OldCoder On Twitter I am
10:19 kaeza hmm..
10:20 OldCoder Do you Follow me there yet?
10:20 kaeza I've seen your tweets somewhere
10:20 OldCoder Oh?
10:20 PilzAdam .tw BoldCoder
10:20 OldCoder ?
10:20 * OldCoder is interested
10:20 home hmmm oldcoder are u done with my skin? if u dont mind me askin
10:20 kaeza nope
10:20 PilzAdam :( the bot is dead
10:20 kaeza .c 1
10:20 OldCoder home, It is done but here is how it works:
10:20 OldCoder home, I must shut down the worlds
10:20 OldCoder home, If I am to shut down the worlds I should update mods. Is this correct?
10:20 home yep
10:21 OldCoder Working
10:21 home im so sry if i made u mad
10:21 home i truly am
10:21 home pls forgive me
10:21 OldCoder kaeza, Yes I am BoldCoder
10:21 * OldCoder laughs out loud
10:21 * OldCoder offers home virtual pizza and cake
10:21 home ohh thx ^^
10:21 Aqua Whos skip?
10:21 PilzAdam sfan5, wheres the bot?
10:21 Aqua Sfan on my ipad now
10:21 OldCoder https://twitter.com/BoldCoder
10:21 Zeg9 OldCoder, mod is ready
10:22 OldCoder kaeza, ^
10:22 sfan5 PilzAdam: umm...
10:22 OldCoder Zeg9, why thank you!
10:22 OldCoder Zeg9, link?
10:22 kaeza1 joined #minetest
10:22 Zeg9 Please wait, uploading.
10:22 OldCoder kaeza1:
10:22 * kaeza1 wants to kill his modem
10:22 OldCoder https://twitter.com/BoldCoder
10:22 OldCoder kaeza1, ^
10:22 kaeza1 OldCoder: gotcha
10:22 sfan5 PilzAdam: connection problems..
10:22 OldCoder k
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10:22 PilzAdam .tw BoldCoder
10:22 sfan5 .tw BoldCoder
10:23 MinetestBot Story: The Masked Lua tells the story of Dude the Cat at: http://christfollower.me/#D121201DUDECAT pic.twitter.com/Yoa142IV (@BoldCoder)
10:23 MinetestBot Story: The Masked Lua tells the story of Dude the Cat at: http://christfollower.me/#D121201DUDECAT pic.twitter.com/Yoa142IV (@BoldCoder)
10:23 Aqua Hey whos skip oldcoder?
10:23 OldCoder Skip? On my site?
10:23 sfan5 .sv
10:23 MinetestBot sfan5: PlanetMinetest Creative Server | planetminetest.com:30000   down
10:23 Aqua Yeh
10:23 OldCoder He is a retired engineer who is painting despite a disability
10:24 OldCoder He lives in Arizona U.S.A.
10:24 Aqua Your friend?
10:24 OldCoder Yes
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10:24 Zeg9 OldCoder, http://ompldr.org/vZ2o2Mw
10:24 kaeza1 OldCoder: now I'm stalking...err...following you :)
10:24 OldCoder Zeg9, thank you!
10:24 home aight
10:24 OldCoder kaeza1, thank you!
10:24 Zeg9 OldCoder, please keep the non-inventory_plus on my world
10:25 OldCoder Zeg9, yesterday's version? All right
10:25 home LOL i keep thinking my nickname was oldcoder
10:25 home lol
10:25 OldCoder This is a fork then?
10:25 Zeg9 Yeah
10:25 OldCoder home, why?
10:25 OldCoder Zeg9, thank you! Done
10:25 home idk lol everytime i see ur name
10:25 OldCoder I will give them different names
10:25 OldCoder home, k
10:25 home i thought its mine LOL
10:25 Zeg9 And, could you link places like auth.txt?
10:25 OldCoder Working
10:25 OldCoder Zeg9, yes
10:25 Aqua Cy
10:25 OldCoder Remind me if I don't
10:25 Zeg9 OldCoder, thanks
10:25 OldCoder Sure
10:28 home alright bye everyone ^^
10:28 home cya
10:28 home i gtg sry
10:28 OldCoder c u
10:28 home :)
10:28 home cya Oldcoder And Zeg9 ^^
10:28 OldCoder k
10:28 Zeg9 home, bye
10:29 Zeg9 ...
10:29 OldCoder Zeg9, so new inv_improved can simply be added to every world but yours?
10:29 Zeg9 The new one is called places, and yes
10:30 OldCoder called places?
10:30 OldCoder Is that name available?
10:30 kaeza1 are the default chat commands like /me hard-coded into the game?
10:31 rsiska joined #minetest
10:31 kaeza1 hey rsiska
10:31 OldCoder Zeg9, was it inv_skin I was to delete from your world?
10:31 Zeg9 It was puttin the current skin/player texture in the inventory
10:32 Zeg9 inv_improved does this, and it adds places too
10:32 kaeza1 ...
10:32 Zeg9 places mod only adds places, and is the only one compatible with inventory_plus
10:33 kaeza ...
10:34 Zeg9 kaeza: I think these commands are in builtin.lua
10:35 kaeza Zeg9: thanks
10:35 kaeza I was only browsing my files in ~/.minetest
10:35 kaeza so I couldn't infd it
10:35 kaeza find*
10:37 OldCoder Does Jeija's slimes work?
10:38 Zeg9 OldCoder, they do, but when I tried it, it made lag the server
10:39 OldCoder k
10:39 Zeg9 And I have a good cpu...
10:39 OldCoder Any other mod suggestions?
10:40 OldCoder Preparing to update
10:41 OldCoder Worlds going down
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10:42 john_minetest i have found 152 teleporters.
10:42 OldCoder Oh my
10:42 OldCoder Recipe is removed though
10:42 OldCoder Does anybody else have a skin they wish? For 2D?
10:42 john_minetest a few more because some were in protected area and i didn't collect them but worldedit them.
10:43 Penguin joined #minetest
10:43 OldCoder Penguin, hi
10:43 Penguin hi
10:43 Zeg9 OldCoder, what about the IRC mod ? :D
10:43 Zeg9 Hello
10:43 OldCoder Zeg9, he needs to debug it
10:43 OldCoder It does not work
10:43 Zeg9 Alright.
10:43 OldCoder Oops
10:43 OldCoder No
10:43 OldCoder I meant you
10:43 OldCoder k
10:43 Penguin OldCoder You Do Ing Back Up?
10:43 OldCoder Yes
10:44 OldCoder About one minute
10:44 Penguin okay
10:45 kaeza hey Penguin
10:45 PilzAdam yay! snow!
10:45 kaeza what?
10:45 OldCoder
10:45 * PilzAdam throws a snowball at #minetest
10:45 OldCoder Penguin, Zeg9 others: The worlds are restarting
10:45 kaeza ...
10:46 kaeza It's around 30ºC here
10:46 PilzAdam it started to snow in RL
10:46 Penguin hey Old Coder can update to the  new http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3761 its been updated
10:46 OldCoder R
10:46 Zeg9 I see you installed the snow mod</troll>
10:46 OldCoder NOW you tell me :p
10:46 OldCoder Penguin, I did
10:46 OldCoder It is in there already
10:46 OldCoder Have fun
10:46 Penguin okay
10:47 OldCoder c u
10:47 OldCoder kaeza, let us know about IRC mod
10:47 OldCoder It is a good idea
10:47 kaeza I'm adding support for /me
10:47 kaeza currnetly
10:47 OldCoder kaeza, it needs to work though
10:47 OldCoder That is more important
10:47 kaeza it worked for leo_rockway
10:47 OldCoder Not for me
10:47 OldCoder You saw the logs
10:48 kaeza yep
10:48 OldCoder I have 18 worlds
10:48 kaeza I still don't know why
10:48 OldCoder I will make channels for them
10:48 OldCoder I will run debug for you
10:48 OldCoder Just add more debug
10:48 OldCoder
10:48 kaeza k
10:48 kaeza I have added debug for everything from my mod
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10:49 kaeza have to work out to add debug from the LuaIRC layer
10:49 Penguin Old Coder can u add this mod http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=978 ?
10:49 OldCoder R
10:49 OldCoder Penguin, I have been asking people to request
10:49 OldCoder And *now* you do?
10:49 Penguin i have just come on irc
10:49 OldCoder Penguin, the tree mods like that are said to be slow
10:49 OldCoder Ask VanessaE
10:50 OldCoder Will anybody comment?
10:50 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=978
10:50 OldCoder Is this mod safe and fast?
10:50 kaeza hmm...
10:50 kaeza lemme check
10:50 kaeza please use ompldr, dropbox or some such next time
10:51 OldCoder Hey, I downloaded this mod, and I was going to put the trees on top of my house... When I planted them and let them grow for awhile, I discovered that I could not destroy the leaves... Is this on purpose, or a bug? Help please... >.<
10:51 kaeza I hate mediafire
10:51 OldCoder Looks risky
10:51 Penguin its slow dont add i juts read it
10:51 OldCoder k
10:52 Zeg9 mediafire, too much ads and popup spams
10:52 kaeza Penguin: ^^
10:53 OldCoder Zeg9, I will probably work on my MT site today
10:53 OldCoder To add links you request
10:53 OldCoder ed
10:54 Zeg9 OldCoder, thanks, maybe I could make some php script to convert the places to html
10:54 OldCoder I can handle that
10:54 kaeza what's the function to print something to the log file?
10:55 OldCoder Explain
10:55 kaeza I'm using print()
10:55 OldCoder Is this Lua?
10:55 kaeza yup
10:55 OldCoder Not an expert yet
10:56 kaeza hmmm...
10:56 Penguin Old Coder this could add a bit  of life to the server http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2807
10:56 OldCoder R
10:56 OldCoder Penguin, I have been asking for days
10:56 OldCoder Penguin, we have that
10:56 OldCoder On most of the worlds
10:56 Penguin we dont
10:56 OldCoder Octupus did not want it on that world
10:57 Penguin oh okay
10:57 OldCoder Sorry; didn't mean to sound annoyed
10:57 kaeza ambience is slow
10:57 kaeza lags as hell
10:57 OldCoder Nope
10:57 OldCoder Not at all
10:57 OldCoder It is the network bug
10:57 kaeza fixed?
10:57 OldCoder Nope
10:57 OldCoder Sorry
10:57 Penguin look at this no offence to him i think its point less http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2209
10:57 kaeza hadn't tested ambience recently
10:58 OldCoder Will be same
10:58 kaeza hmmm...
10:59 kaeza found it!
10:59 kaeza it's `minetest.log(level,message)'
11:00 kaeza this lua_api.txt needs a bit of cleanup
11:00 kaeza s/cleanup/reformatting/
11:02 Taoki Anyone know if half-transparent pixels work for png textures? So you can have areas which are neither 0% or 100% transparent, eg: To make dark glass that you can still see through?
11:05 Zeg9 Taoki, maybe water does that, but I'm really not sure about it.
11:05 Taoki water transparency is specified in code IIRC
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11:08 Penguin hello
11:08 kaeza OldCoder: could it be possible that the problem is if the IRC server does not get a response in time?
11:09 Penguin kaeza ?
11:09 kaeza yes?
11:09 thexyz kaeza: i suggest this instead of lua_api.txt http://wapi.minetest.ru/
11:09 Penguin what you doing
11:09 thexyz or http://api.minetest.net/
11:09 kaeza Penguin: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905
11:10 RealBadAngel Taoki, i tried to make semi transparent ice, but was gettin strange side effects
11:10 OldCoder kaeza, it says flood
11:10 Taoki ok. IIRC there's a menu setting to make water semi-transparent, so I assume it's code
11:10 OldCoder kaeza, not sure how delay produces flood
11:10 RealBadAngel like on the side touchin another solid node x-ray effect, like with flying with noclip
11:10 Taoki RealBadAngel: Did it work still?
11:11 kaeza hmmm...
11:11 RealBadAngel yup
11:11 RealBadAngel water is displayed in right way
11:12 RealBadAngel tried to make ice a liquid and use a liquid drawtype
11:12 RealBadAngel then it wanted to spread like a liquid
11:13 RealBadAngel somethin in the middle is needed
11:15 kaeza testing :)
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11:16 OldCoder Question. I load some of VanessaE textures first and then dokutest. Penguin wants order reversed so VanessaE are used in preference. Any consensus?
11:16 mt_game [GAME:singleplayer]: Hi Penguin
11:16 mt_game [GAME:<ACTION>]: * singleplayer is looking if this gets to IRC
11:17 kaeza sfan5: ^^
11:17 sfan5 :D
11:17 mt_game [GAME:<ACTION>]: * singleplayer will go back to coding
11:17 OldCoder I'd like to get that working in my worlds
11:18 Penguin wdf why is the irc specking to me
11:18 Penguin [11:16] <mt_game> [GAME:singleplayer]: Hi Penguin
11:18 kaeza Penguin: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905
11:19 * PilzAdam points at his improved player controls branch: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/tree/controls
11:20 Penguin old coder can u reverve texture
11:21 OldCoder Penguin, ask for consensus
11:21 OldCoder Question. I load some of VanessaE textures first and then dokutest. Penguin wants order reversed so VanessaE are used in preference. Any consensus?
11:21 * OldCoder shrugs
11:21 OldCoder Anybody?
11:21 kaeza hmm...
11:21 kaeza R :)
11:21 FreeFull PilzAdam: What's wrong with sneaking while flying? What if you want to fly slower?
11:22 FreeFull Wait, nevermind
11:22 kaeza FreeFull: turn off fast_move
11:22 PilzAdam it doesnt fit with the other changes
11:22 FreeFull kaeza: Slower than non-fast flying speed
11:22 PilzAdam you dont need to turn off fast mode with my changes
11:24 kaeza OldCoder: I don't know which to choose
11:24 kaeza so don't mind me
11:26 kaeza ...
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11:27 Taoki Damn... farmesh is pretty broken
11:27 * Taoki wanted to use farmesh to give myself the feeling I'm using a smoothing / marching cubes algorithm even when I'm not :)
11:31 Taoki It also decreases performance when it should be increasing it
11:35 PilzAdam Taoki, do you have any idea why capital E is handled like space?
11:35 Taoki no idea
11:37 PilzAdam i guess thats an Irrlicht bug
11:38 Taoki Irrlicht is a graphics engine, it doesn't handle pressed kmeys
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11:38 Taoki It's likely a bug with whatever handles or translates or passes keyboard input
11:46 thexyz of course it handles pressed keys
11:48 Taoki ah, didn't know that. Probably yes then
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11:51 OldCoder Hi!
11:51 DarkDracoon Hi there, im kika's brother
11:51 DarkDracoon OldCoder, huh? i know you.
11:51 OldCoder DarkDracoon, Hi
11:51 OldCoder How so?
11:51 DarkDracoon my sis talks on you a lot of times
11:51 OldCoder Ah
11:51 OldCoder Yes
11:51 OldCoder She is hard working
11:51 DarkDracoon telling that you're amazing
11:51 OldCoder ???
11:51 OldCoder <--- Not amazing
11:51 DarkDracoon I guess you are.
11:51 OldCoder But thank you
11:53 DarkDracoon soon, ill dualboot this pc as:
11:53 DarkDracoon Crunchbang - Linux/Debian (and ) Windows XP
11:54 OldCoder k
11:55 * PilzAdam points at his player controls branch again: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commits/controls
11:56 DarkDracoon2 joined #minetest
11:56 DarkDracoon2 fuck
11:56 DarkDracoon2 my father turned modem off
11:57 OldCoder Oh?
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12:03 * kaeza is reading the IRC log
12:04 * kaeza is amused
12:04 * kaeza goes back to code his damned thing
12:07 sfan5 .sv
12:07 kaeza gone
12:07 kaeza ping timeout
12:07 sfan5 it should auto-reconnect
12:08 kaeza not yet it seems
12:08 kaeza .c 1
12:08 kaeza nop
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12:08 sfan5 .sv
12:08 sfan5 .c 1
12:08 kaeza there
12:08 MinetestBot 1
12:08 MinetestBot sfan5: Mrtux's Minetest server | minetest.org:30001   up (90.502%)
12:09 OldCoder Oh; my worlds are listed?
12:09 kaeza .g Minetest
12:09 MinetestBot kaeza: http://minetest.net/
12:09 kaeza .g kaeza
12:09 MinetestBot kaeza: http://www.kaezafearn.com/
12:09 kaeza wut?
12:09 kaeza that's not me
12:10 Basstard` .g ass
12:10 MinetestBot Basstard`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ass
12:11 kaeza .g lol
12:11 MinetestBot kaeza: http://leagueoflegends.com/
12:11 kaeza wut?
12:12 Basstard` .g search
12:12 MinetestBot Basstard`: http://search.yahoo.com/
12:13 kaeza .g Legend of Cosmo
12:13 MinetestBot kaeza: http://www.amazon.com/Legend-Cosmo-Archangel-Joseph-Kaufman/dp/9655440001
12:13 kaeza sorry
12:13 sfan5 why sorry?
12:14 kaeza flooding :)
12:14 Basstard` .g sorry
12:14 MinetestBot Basstard`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorry!_(game)
12:14 sfan5 no problem
12:14 sfan5 kaeza: you can also chat in query
12:14 Zeg9 .g Zeg9
12:14 MinetestBot Zeg9: http://www.rightwingnews.com/republicans/is-herman-cain-the-star-personality-candidate-republicans-have-been-waiting-for-and-which-goper-do-you-like/
12:14 Zeg9 o_O
12:14 kaeza lol
12:15 sfan5 .g sfan5
12:15 kaeza sfan5: explain plz
12:15 MinetestBot sfan5: https://github.com/sfan5
12:15 sfan5 kaeza: /privmsg MinetestBot .sv
12:15 kaeza k
12:15 sfan5 try that und you'll understand
12:15 OldCoder Much better
12:15 sfan5 .gc sfan5
12:15 MinetestBot NameError: global name 'new_gc' is not defined (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/search.py", line 87, in gc)
12:15 OldCoder No more bot fights please
12:15 sfan5 ok
12:16 kaeza my IRC client is broken
12:16 Basstard` .g OldCoder
12:16 MinetestBot Basstard`: http://oldcoder.org/
12:16 kaeza "/privmsg MinetestBot .sv" "unknown command"
12:16 Zeg9 kaeza, try /mnt
12:16 Zeg9 /msg*
12:16 Zeg9 o.o
12:16 kaeza "/msg MinetestBot .sv" "unknown command"
12:17 kaeza sorry
12:17 kaeza wrong line
12:17 kaeza testing again
12:17 kaeza yup /msg works
12:19 kaeza (10:15:58) kaeza: .g pr0n
12:19 kaeza (10:15:59) MinetestBot: kaeza: Search term contains badword
12:19 kaeza that's better
12:20 thexyz oh
12:20 thexyz badword
12:20 thexyz challenge accepted
12:21 kaeza though pr0n gives urban dictionary as first hit
12:21 PilzAdam .sv
12:21 MinetestBot PilzAdam: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000   up (95.783%)
12:22 PilzAdam .sv
12:22 MinetestBot PilzAdam: Redcrab's server 0.4 dev20120106-1 | redcrab.suret.net:30000   up (86.475%)
12:22 Basstard` .sv
12:22 PilzAdam .sv
12:22 MinetestBot Basstard`: Calinou's Server | calin.sytes.net:30000   up (91.341%)
12:22 MinetestBot PilzAdam: Redcrab's server : for serious builder | redcrab.suret.net:30401   up (95.739%)
12:23 kaeza sfan5: is ".help" a command?
12:23 sfan5 no
12:23 kaeza oh ok
12:24 kaeza .wik Iron Pick
12:24 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Iron_Pick
12:24 kaeza .wik Steel Pick
12:24 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Steel_Pick
12:25 sfan5 .wik Iron Pickaxe
12:25 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Iron_Pickaxe
12:25 Zeg9 .g Iron pickaxe
12:25 MinetestBot Zeg9: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pickaxe
12:25 Zeg9 .g Steel pickaxe
12:25 MinetestBot Zeg9: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Steel_pickaxe
12:25 Zeg9 Why runescape and minecraft ? x)
12:25 sfan5 .g Minetest Iron Pickaxe
12:25 MinetestBot sfan5: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=crafting
12:25 sfan5 Zeg9: ask google
12:25 Zeg9 ...
12:25 Zeg9 My dumb x)
12:26 OldCoder Could we reduce the botting a little?
12:26 kaeza sorry OC
12:27 DarkDracoon so pplz
12:27 DarkDracoon what you doing?
12:27 DarkDracoon .g Minetest Wood Shovel
12:27 MinetestBot DarkDracoon: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Shovel
12:27 DarkDracoon wanted hwo to craft it
12:27 DarkDracoon :P
12:27 kaeza you don't know how to craft a shovel???
12:28 kaeza ...
12:29 kaeza lol just one more
12:29 kaeza .g wut
12:29 MinetestBot kaeza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrnq4SZ0luc
12:30 * kaeza is satisfied
12:30 * kaeza goes back to code
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12:32 * OldCoder is resting briefly
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12:32 sfan5 .g test
12:32 sfan5 .g test
12:32 kaeza .g hmmmm
12:33 sfan5 syntax error
12:33 kaeza where?
12:33 sfan5 Error loading search: invalid syntax (search.py, line 98) (in bot.py)
12:33 kaeza get it up again
12:34 sfan5 starting...
12:34 MinetestBot joined #minetest
12:34 sfan5 .g test
12:34 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.test.com/
12:34 kaeza .gc
12:34 MinetestBot kaeza: No query term.
12:34 kaeza .gc a
12:34 MinetestBot NameError: global name 're' is not defined (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/search.py", line 107, in new_gc)
12:34 kaeza hmmmm
12:35 sfan5 let me fix that
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12:37 kaeza hey neko
12:39 MinetestBot joined #minetest
12:39 sfan5 .g test
12:39 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.test.com/
12:39 sfan5 this looks good: "[LOG]: sfan5 queried Google Result for 'test'"
12:40 sfan5 .gc test
12:40 MinetestBot test: 634,000,000
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12:40 thexyz awful
12:40 kaeza seems good to me
12:40 kaeza how long did it take?
12:40 sfan5 what?
12:40 kaeza the search
12:41 sfan5 dunno
12:41 sfan5 ...
12:41 sfan5 derp
12:41 kaeza seems like less than a sec
12:41 kaeza lol
12:42 sfan5 nickname blacklisting should work fine now
12:42 KikaRz .g test
12:42 MinetestBot KikaRz: Nope!
12:43 sfan5 yep! it does
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12:47 thexyz lol
12:47 simion314 how long it should take to load a multiplayer world?  in my case it is stuck at "Media 0%"
12:48 sfan5 simion314: depends on how fast your and the servers connection is
12:48 sfan5 and how many media is transferred
12:48 kaeza sfan5: lol
12:48 NakedFury that was nice sfan
12:48 simion314 what is the media?
12:49 NakedFury sounds
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12:49 NakedFury files
12:49 kaeza sfan5: It would be better if it sent a private message
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12:49 NakedFury all the mods and extras the server has
12:49 neko259 Hello everyone.
12:49 NakedFury hello
12:49 kaeza hello neko259
12:49 simion314 if the server has mods and textures packs it will send them to the client before starting?
12:49 neko259 Can anyone tell me, how to make my nodes decay like leaves? They are in leafdecay group, but they drop themselved when decaying.
12:50 sfan5 yes
12:50 kaeza simion314: yes
12:50 neko259 And I get dozens of dropped leaves.
12:50 simion314 thx all
12:51 kaeza stand by
12:51 kaeza testing
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12:52 mt_game [GAME:singleplayer]: 1 2 3 testing
12:52 mt_game [GAME:<ACTION>]: * singleplayer is yaying
12:52 mt_game [GAME:singleplayer]: someone use /me from IRC please
12:52 * sfan5 tests
12:53 sfan5 i did
12:53 kaeza I'm not getting it from there
12:53 * kaeza is checking the code
12:54 * NakedFury hi
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12:56 mt_game [GAME:singleplayer]: again plz
12:56 * kaeza tests
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12:59 neko259 Are there any mod devs here? :D
13:00 thexyz of course there are
13:00 fus_ro_dah [GAME:singleplayer]: neko259: yes
13:00 neko259 fus_ro_dah: Please see my question.
13:00 thexyz kaeza: can you test your bot in some other channel?
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13:00 kaeza sowwy
13:00 home hello everyone im back^^
13:05 thexyz neko259: they don't drop themselves, see https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/leafdecay.lua#L74
13:09 PilzAdam back
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13:11 neko259 thexyz: But my blossom nodes drop themselves.
13:11 neko259 Why so?
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13:13 kaeza I'm having a slight headache
13:13 kaeza gonna take a nap for a few mins
13:13 kaeza c u
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13:22 neko259 thexyz: Зайди в linux-anime плиз.
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13:54 Penguin hi
13:54 Zeg9 Hello.
13:54 Zeg9 Is anyone reading the chat here?
13:55 Zeg9 Apart the logger ?
13:55 Penguin Anyone Coming On Octus Server minetest.org  30004 ?
13:55 PilzAdam somehow
13:55 PilzAdam version?
13:56 Penguin 1.4.2
13:57 PilzAdam ?!?!
13:57 Penguin 0.4.2
13:57 Penguin fail 0.4.3
13:58 PilzAdam no 3D models :-(
13:58 Penguin ?
14:14 DarkDracoon LOL
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14:56 sfan5 .sv
14:56 MinetestBot sfan5: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000   up (95.808%)
14:57 sfan5 .c 1+1
14:57 MinetestBot 2
14:57 jin_xi so, anyone knows about detached inventories?
14:58 jin_xi what are they detached from?
14:59 thexyz from nodes
14:59 thexyz and players
15:00 thexyz Inventory location:
15:00 thexyz - "context": Selected node metadata (deprecated: "current_name")
15:00 thexyz - "current_player": Player to whom the menu is shown
15:00 thexyz - "player:<name>": Any player
15:00 thexyz - "nodemeta:<X>,<Y>,<Z>": Any node metadata
15:00 thexyz - "detached:<name>": A detached inventory
15:02 jin_xi so, how is it accessed?
15:02 jin_xi i mean what actions cause it to appear on your screen
15:03 * jin_xi feels foolish
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15:21 Zeg9 Anyone has access to OldCoder's mod folder? :/
15:22 NakedFury no. do you want to know what mods he has?
15:22 Zeg9 No, I made a mod that has a huge bug I just fixed :/
15:23 NakedFury ohh well is it possible to leave a msg for when he gets online?
15:25 Zeg9 I sent him a message, as well as memo's with memoserv
15:26 NakedFury ohh then you can be sure he will see it
15:27 PilzAdam back
15:27 NakedFury welcome back
15:28 Zeg9 Welcome back
15:28 PilzAdam anything happend?
15:28 Zeg9 My mod crashed my world on OldCoder's server, that's all I think
15:32 Zeg9 .sv
15:32 MinetestBot Zeg9: M13's Server (0.4.3) | m13.servegame.com:30001   down
15:32 Zeg9 .sv
15:32 MinetestBot Zeg9: cosarara97's server | cosarara97.cu.cc:30000   down
15:33 Zeg9 Any 0.4.4 server up ?
15:33 PilzAdam minetest.ru:12345
15:34 Zeg9 Thanks
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15:35 * Calinou rants about new light changes
15:35 Calinou sunlight is way too bright :|
15:36 NakedFury that must be how it was on earth before the industrial age
15:37 Calinou lol
15:38 Calinou erm, nevermind
15:38 Calinou stuff seems to be much brighter on my netbook with shaders, but it looks ok on my desktop
15:39 NakedFury is it possible to add a source of light as bright as the games sun and have it be tied to the games day/night cycle? for use in deep underground cities to simulate a sun
15:39 NakedFury I have to wait for a windows compiled shaders client
15:40 Calinou light needs to be tweaked in fixed-function mode imo, also the new style water should be backported...
15:41 NakedFury I have to place ridiculous amount of torches in my construction
15:41 Zeg9 NakedFury, I had a bug on Calinou's server once, in my mine there was daylight. I think it was a light map bug, though
15:42 NakedFury ohh I have that in several places
15:42 NakedFury but I have thousands of torches placed all around
15:44 Zeg9 How do you change player's texture/skin on 0.4.4 ?
15:44 PilzAdam overrride character.png
15:45 Zeg9 I mean, per player, I heard it was possible
15:45 Zeg9 Or it will need a mod, like before ?
15:45 PilzAdam sdzen's modfiied player_textures mod
15:45 Zeg9 Ok, thanks
15:45 PilzAdam link is in the forum topic of player_textures
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15:57 RealBadAngel NakedFury, sfan5 compiled latest already
15:57 NakedFury with the shaders??
15:57 sfan5 yes
15:57 NakedFury damn your fast
15:57 NakedFury I already had the other 0.4.4
15:57 RealBadAngel no, youre to slow to get it ;)
15:58 RealBadAngel *too
15:58 NakedFury no he is fast
15:58 NakedFury fast sfanfive
15:58 RealBadAngel with this build you can test Unified Inventory
15:59 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3933
15:59 NakedFury sfan5 cant you sticky your build post??
16:00 NakedFury downloading
16:00 sfan5 NakedFury: i don't know if celeron55 would allow that
16:00 NakedFury ohh
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16:04 Zigz1 crapsters, caught kaeza on afk~
16:05 NakedFury preload items visual. what is that? what does it improve?
16:05 Zigz1 Does anyone know how to make mods (items, entities, tools, etc) and is willing to help me~ ?
16:06 Zigz1 I'd like to know how to make items/entities/tools, because I only know how to make blocks so far. I also have a problem with a log texture.
16:06 NakedFury I know some and what I dont I check other mods to learn
16:08 RealBadAngel it was supposed to skip rendering items inv textures at start
16:08 VanessaE hi all
16:08 RealBadAngel and render them on demand
16:08 RealBadAngel effect is that that both Creative and Unified Inventory suffers from it
16:08 VanessaE ...but it has the side effect of making the creative invetory screen turn black between pages
16:09 RealBadAngel so recommendation is to avoid using that
16:09 jin_xi fast joins (no black screen) but delays when item images are generated
16:09 Zigz1 The minetest tree log has 2 textures - top and side. I tried making files for my rainbow log end with _side and _top, thinking that it should do something. Instead it just makes the texture not able to load~
16:09 RealBadAngel and blackouts
16:09 RealBadAngel zigz: every node has 6 textures
16:10 RealBadAngel if just one is given, it will be the same on all 6 faces
16:10 Zigz1 I did two
16:10 Zigz1 I put them in code
16:10 RealBadAngel 6
16:10 Zigz1 I need to do 6? :(
16:10 RealBadAngel 4 sides, up and bottom
16:10 RealBadAngel for example tree has 2 textures
16:10 Zigz1 Yes, it does,
16:10 RealBadAngel 1 for up and bottom, 1 for four sides
16:11 Zigz1 And my rainbow log is a tree too
16:11 RealBadAngel hold on
16:11 Zigz1 Well, I don't really understand how default has only 2 textures for the tree and it works~
16:11 NakedFury check default
16:11 Zigz1 I did.
16:11 jin_xi you can use the same for all 6
16:11 jin_xi see above
16:11 Zigz1 Wait a second.
16:12 Zigz1 I think I did something wrong, that might be
16:12 NakedFury you have to tell it always example:  default_log, default_log, upside_log, default_log, bottom_log
16:12 Zigz1 ..Hmm
16:12 RealBadAngel tiles = {"top.png", "bottom.png", "side0.png","side1.png", "side2.png", "side3.png"},
16:12 Zigz1 So I can use the same texture in the code for a couple of times ?
16:12 jin_xi yes
16:12 NakedFury follow the order of realbadangel
16:13 RealBadAngel if top and bottom are the same use same textures for both
16:13 Zigz1 Do I have to make the names like that, or do I just put them in some order?
16:13 RealBadAngel so in your case top and bottom will be one texture
16:13 RealBadAngel and all sides another
16:13 RealBadAngel names i gave them means the order
16:14 Zigz1 All right, i'll try right now
16:14 RealBadAngel 1st is bottom, 2nd up, etc
16:14 VanessaE oooo check out c55's latest commit - smooth shader-based day<->night transitions :-)
16:14 Zigz1 By the way, gimp is useful if you want to make textures
16:14 VanessaE looks beautiful
16:14 RealBadAngel sfan5?
16:14 Zigz1 Yeah, someone suggested it on the forum
16:15 NakedFury another update?
16:15 RealBadAngel lets check how fast he is really :)
16:15 NakedFury he must already be halfway through
16:16 Zigz1 My mod concept is to make rainbow stuff like rainbow cookies, etc.
16:16 Zigz1 But the bad thing is, that I don't know how to make items
16:16 Zigz1 I know how to make recipes though!
16:17 Zeg9 Do you mean craftitems?
16:17 Zigz1 Wait a second, realbadangel
16:17 Zigz1 Are you from poland?
16:17 RealBadAngel yes
16:17 Zigz1 Me too! We should keep it english though, as for this chat is public, right?
16:17 RealBadAngel indeed
16:18 RealBadAngel tip: if you want to learn LUA pick a mod and check it, how the things are done
16:18 RealBadAngel best way
16:19 Zigz1 :( the textures still wont load
16:19 RealBadAngel because you will get working examples
16:19 RealBadAngel pastebin your code please
16:20 Zigz1 OHHHHHHHH
16:20 Zigz1 OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...
16:21 Zigz1 I KNOW NOW..
16:21 Zigz1 I need to fix it up
16:21 Zigz1 I forgot the "s
16:21 Zigz1 Ah, silly me
16:22 Zigz1 I'll check it now
16:22 Zigz1 ....
16:22 Zigz1 ............
16:22 Zigz1 The texture still won't load.
16:23 Zigz1 Perhaps that wasn't the problem?
16:23 RealBadAngel hehe, gimme the code i will look for problem
16:23 Zigz1 Dammit
16:23 Zigz1 I did a problem again
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16:23 Zigz1 mistake*
16:24 Zigz1 because i gave the wrong name of the texture
16:24 Zigz1 THERE we go!
16:24 Zigz1 It looks funny
16:25 RealBadAngel 17:24:36: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "door_wood_a_r.png"
16:25 RealBadAngel whos texture is that?
16:25 RealBadAngel i keep getting this error since morning or so
16:26 VanessaE that's a default texture from the original doors mod
16:27 VanessaE not sure if the revised doors PilzAdam added use the same filenames or not
16:27 VanessaE (I think they do)
16:27 PilzAdam *_r.png images arent used in the new doors mod
16:28 PilzAdam the other ones are flipped by the engine
16:28 Zigz1 Hehe http://i49.tinypic.com/1z5kjeu.png
16:28 VanessaE Zigz1: you think we can see that?
16:28 VanessaE looks sorta rainbow-colored
16:29 Zigz1 Yeah, the one on the left is rainbow wool and the one on the right is a rainbow tree log.
16:29 VanessaE protip:
16:29 VanessaE /time 6000
16:29 VanessaE then take a screenshot :)
16:29 PilzAdam first F1 and F2
16:29 Zigz1 Meh, fine.
16:31 Zigz1 Here's your ultra rainbow. http://i47.tinypic.com/w5x6u.png
16:31 VanessaE cute :-)
16:31 Zeg9 Why isn't the screenshot the same size !
16:31 VanessaE suggestion:  radial rainbow on the top side of the tree
16:31 NakedFury using /time 6000 before taking screenshots is super important
16:32 Zigz1 The textures are 32px because I thought 16px was a bit ugly
16:32 Zigz1 The rainbow is more noticable with 32px
16:32 RealBadAngel its hard to make nice lookin 16px texture
16:32 Zigz1 True
16:32 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, speaking about textures...
16:33 * RealBadAngel fires up gimp
16:33 PilzAdam :D
16:33 Zigz1 Gimp?
16:33 Zigz1 I made those textures with gimp also, lol
16:33 * VanessaE goes to her HDX folder......
16:33 PilzAdam everyone uses Gimp
16:33 RealBadAngel it was hard to learn
16:34 Zigz1 VanessaE, if I were to speak about your HDX textures, those are some badass huge files.
16:34 RealBadAngel but i cannot even imagine now workin with another tool
16:34 VanessaE yep I know
16:34 VanessaE but bandwidth, storage, and good video cards are cheap :-)
16:34 NakedFury I use paint.net
16:34 Zigz1 Here video cards aren't cheap, in poland
16:34 RealBadAngel Zigz1, try this one https://github.com/RealBadAngel/HavenTP
16:35 Zigz1 Ya know guys, I don't like drawing with gimp/paint.net or stuff like that
16:35 NakedFury its the shipping that rips you another ahole
16:35 Zigz1 I like something like kerpoof, when i draw there i feel like the lines move swiftly with grace
16:35 NakedFury you find a cheap hardware piece and then find that you need to pay almost the same amount in shipping and handling
16:35 Zigz1 When I draw in gimp/paint.net, I feel like the lines were shaky as hell
16:35 VanessaE Zigz1: that said, the 64px size of HDX is only 8.5MB
16:36 Zigz1 Still a heavy file, herp
16:36 VanessaE that's smaller than the initial cache download on my server :-)
16:36 PilzAdam my minimal GAME has ~200KB
16:36 VanessaE 8.5MB is heavy??
16:36 Zigz1 In fact, for a texture its pretty much heavy
16:36 VanessaE "1718 images (in the larger sizes), counting all of the above supported mods, and still growing"
16:36 VanessaE that's why it's 8.5MB :-)
16:36 Zigz1 Yeah, thats why I'm saying it's heavy. For a TEXTURE pack.
16:37 VanessaE meh.  you want quality, it'll cost ya :P
16:37 PilzAdam and it doesnt look good
16:38 Zigz1 Btw, vanessaE, I published your texture pack on my website and didn't even tell ya, sorry. But I'm sure it's fine because I was giving full credit and the download isn't an ad.fly link that gives me free monies, and on the other side, the site isn't popular at all, pretty much nobody knows about it.
16:38 Zigz1 I'm still working on it.
16:38 RealBadAngel depends on who is lookin ;)
16:39 RealBadAngel i prefer at least 128px
16:39 VanessaE it's okay, publish it all you want, just be sure you keep it updated :-)
16:39 Zeg9 Zigz1, what is your website ? XD
16:40 Zigz1 Well, if you want it.. Most of the websites are empty, because I have lazy buttocks.
16:40 Zigz1 http://minetest.manifo.com
16:40 Zigz1 Yes, I love free stuff
16:40 Zigz1 Because I can't create my own.
16:41 Zigz1 By the way, Vanessa, your 512px pack's size is blastin'.
16:42 Zigz1 The texture packs page, even though it has much more stuff than the other pages, still feels shining empty to me.
16:42 Zeg9 Zigz1, why do you use a minecraft background and music if you're talking about minetest ? ;)
16:42 Calinou df -h says my /home partition would like to have some texture packs:
16:42 Calinou /dev/sda4        1,8T   14G  1,7T   1% /home
16:42 Calinou thank you OEM for giving me a 2TB disk :|
16:42 VanessaE Zigz1: heh, you shoulda seen it before I recompressed it into jpg :-)
16:42 Zigz1 Because minetest dirt is ugly 8)
16:42 Calinou +1
16:43 Calinou updated my changelog btw: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x-changelog.txt
16:43 Zigz1 I'm pretty sure almost nobody knows me here, just from my not-so-many posts on the forum~
16:43 VanessaE Zigz1: "looks empty" <-- add screenshot thumbnails
16:44 Zigz1 I hope you like the slider on the homepage, because ITS NOT MINE.
16:44 Zigz1 Also, what the dirt should I add there? I have no idea at all
16:45 Zigz1 Maybe someone would fix the page's logo for me, it's seriously simple for me.
16:45 Zeg9 I see, the WOWSlider.com
16:45 Zigz1 I tried to remove it, but to no avail
16:45 PilzAdam Calinou, what about attached nodes?
16:46 Calinou PilzAdam: see "modding related changes" section
16:46 Zigz1 I hate when people try to make me give credit to them, but I do that if they just ask me nicely, for me WOWSlider is just an ugly usual ordinary money-wanting campaign of idiots.
16:46 PilzAdam the default nodes that use this groups hould be mentioned
16:46 Zeg9 Just use an open-sourced stuff ;)
16:46 celeron55 is that a changelog from 0.4.3 to 0.4.4-dev?
16:46 PilzAdam yep
16:47 Zigz1 Would anyone be good-hearted and let me know how to make items/tools/entities?
16:47 Calinou wowslider?
16:47 Calinou celeron55: yes
16:47 Zigz1 I want to make rainbow cookies
16:47 Calinou feel free to use it :P
16:47 Calinou Zigz1: look at my mods' code (eg. moreblocks), it should be self-explanatory
16:47 Zigz1 Wait a sec, is that celeron55?
16:47 Zeg9 Zigz1: http://api.minetest.net/page/view/view/items.html
16:48 Zeg9 Wait
16:48 Zigz1 I don't know why, I always feel weird when I type to a game creator/famous person
16:49 Zigz1 And always when I make a mistake with spelling or something like that, I feel like I failed the whole life and wanted to kill myself
16:49 OldCoder Hi
16:49 Zeg9 Hello OldCoder, sorry for the flooding I did...
16:49 * OldCoder reviews
16:50 OldCoder k
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16:50 VanessaE Ahh linux.  wonderfully stable.  Except when it hard-locks.
16:50 OldCoder VanessaE, wb
16:52 Zigz1 That moment when you forget a person on skype and weirdly ask him/her the ultra-ordinary question "Who are you?"
16:52 Zigz1 Happened a while ago to me.
16:54 Zigz1 If anyone doesn't mind non-minetest content, heres my first ever color splash I did not a long time ago. http://i46.tinypic.com/2hzcrm.jpg
16:54 Zigz1 I just noticed i seriously have a obsession with rainbows.
16:57 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54680#p54680
16:57 VanessaE wtf?  second-to-last screenshot with the sky background.  HOW!?
16:57 VanessaE surely it's been 'shopped?
16:57 PilzAdam VanessaE, 0.3.1?
16:58 PilzAdam skyblock.png?
16:58 VanessaE oh hell
16:58 VanessaE you're right, that was 0.3.1.  I didn't look at the top left corner
16:58 PilzAdam you also see the "1" at the stacks in the creative inv of 0.3
16:59 VanessaE been too long since I used 0.3.x :-)
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17:02 * VanessaE feels stupid for misreading the screenshot, and also wants skyboxes or some equivalent back :-)
17:02 * PilzAdam just thinks about the flame wars when Minetest will be as good as MC
17:02 Zigz1 Well i'll be going, gonna play with a friend
17:02 Zigz1 Goodbye everyone, have a nice night, morning, day, or whatever
17:02 VanessaE bya
17:02 VanessaE bye
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17:10 PilzAdam hi J4I
17:10 babyface1031 hi OldCoder
17:10 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi
17:10 jordan4ibanez hi
17:10 VanessaE hey babyface1031
17:11 babyface1031 hi VanessaE
17:12 jordan4ibanez what does preload item visuals do?
17:12 PilzAdam preload was default of the previous versions
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17:13 jordan4ibanez oh, so now it supports changing textures while server is running?
17:13 PilzAdam no
17:13 PilzAdam its faster loading of the map
17:14 jordan4ibanez wait on or off?
17:14 PilzAdam off
17:14 jordan4ibanez i can really feel the difference, the map doesn't spazz out while loading chunks anymore :)
17:15 jordan4ibanez pilzadam: https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commits/master
17:15 PilzAdam its actually only the black screen when entering the game
17:16 Calinou you get a small black screen when opening inventory/mining an item sometimes :(
17:16 PilzAdam yea, thats the downside
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17:17 jordan4ibanez I like how the inventory doesn't spazz out anymore
17:17 DarkDracoon showing to revengeiseek how its this
17:17 Zeg9 J4I try using craft guide now :D
17:18 Zeg9 Or creative, I think, too
17:18 jordan4ibanez pilzadam, can you add in the inertia that was in minetest ++ to minetest?
17:18 jordan4ibanez Yes, it's very smooth
17:18 PilzAdam what?
17:19 jordan4ibanez read commits i posted above in that link
17:20 DarkDracoon revengeiseek, i see your ip :D
17:20 revengeiseek D:D:D:
17:20 revengeiseek wtf
17:20 revengeiseek hey, how i hide my ip?
17:20 OldCoder VanessaE, Penguin wishes me to swap Dokutest and your textures to give yours priority. Any reason to do so or not?
17:21 OldCoder revengeiseek, you can obtain a cloak
17:21 revengeiseek how?
17:21 OldCoder revengeiseek, Google Freenode cloak and this should explain further
17:21 revengeiseek ok thanks
17:21 revengeiseek :D
17:22 OldCoder What was that about?
17:23 VanessaE OldCoder: the download size may be prohibitive, but I certainly wouldn't complain :-)  Recommend you limit it to the 64px size if you use mine.
17:23 VanessaE (it's an 8.5MB download for the current version)
17:23 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, can you point me to the commit?
17:23 jordan4ibanez There are A LOT of commits, which one do you want first? inertia? hungerbar? drowning bar?
17:24 PilzAdam the inertia thing you mentioned
17:24 VanessaE OldCoder: that reminds me... please remove flowers, jungle grass, and poison ivy (they're all obsolete now) from your servers and install Plantlife instead.
17:25 VanessaE OldCoder: it is a drop-in replacement for those three and is much faster, too.
17:25 VanessaE inertia?  maybe.  Hunger/drowning/suffocating?  do not want.
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17:27 jordan4ibanez Okay, i'm going to give you the commits in order that they were posted, since some of them are fixes and such
17:27 NakedFury hunger and drowning wanted too
17:28 jordan4ibanez pilzadam http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kPZRxT3p
17:29 VanessaE PilzAdam: re: the video link in -dev, I can't say I care for the motion blur or the shadows cast by the plants.  The rest looks nice though.
17:29 NekoGloop Alright, time to make myself a skin! :D
17:29 NekoGloop VanessaE: MC + GLSL shaders?
17:29 jordan4ibanez It needs further tuning while in water, but it was almost perfect
17:29 VanessaE NekoGloop: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54645#p54645
17:29 OldCoder VanessaE, Plantlife is backwards compatible with all other mods? and 0.4.3 ?
17:29 babyface1031 flowers are no good anymore VanessaE?
17:29 sfan5 VanessaE: which video?
17:29 VanessaE OldCoder: afaict, yes.
17:29 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHHxUzp29HA
17:30 VanessaE babyface1031: obsoleted and replaced by plantlife mod:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3898
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17:30 NekoGloop VanessaE: That looks a hell of a lot better than the picture i had.
17:30 VanessaE babyface1031, OldCoder: just download that ^^^ and install, and delete flowers/junglegrass/poisonivy
17:30 sfan5 i want that shaders for minetest too
17:30 VanessaE NekoGloop: as I tried to tell you, people do like that mod - oldcoder uses it on his servers, as do I.
17:30 * PilzAdam too
17:30 babyface1031 i am on OldCoder servers so nothing fo rme to download
17:31 VanessaE sfan5: well the latest shaders in MT git master look nice.
17:31 sfan5 yeah
17:31 OldCoder VanessaE, I will proceed
17:31 sfan5 some comments in the shaders in master would be nice
17:31 OldCoder Zeg9, Zegaton will be updated after I complete VanessaE changes
17:31 VanessaE sfan5: smooth day-night transitions, bright light-emitting objects, lighting differences between block sides/tops, some misc. too I guess
17:32 babyface1031 what is poison ivy used for?
17:32 NekoGloop VanessaE: How many people will actually bother downloading it from a third-party anyway?
17:32 VanessaE OldCoder: there is one minor bug:  jungle grass keeps turning into dry shrubs even on grass (should only happen in the desert)
17:32 VanessaE babyface1031: an annoying plant :-)
17:32 NekoGloop And it lacks the animated torches.
17:32 Zeg9 OldCoder, I found the failure which gave all privs to some people...
17:32 Zeg9 I'll tell you by pm
17:32 VanessaE NekoGloop: I don't know, and yeah I know it lacks them.  I couldn't find the version with the animated torches.
17:33 NekoGloop Then make them.
17:33 babyface1031 ok so no real use yet
17:33 NekoGloop Chop-Chop.
17:33 VanessaE babyface1031: nope.  cut them down and trash them.  they're just there to add some variety to the world.
17:34 babyface1031 ok we need a good trash can mod that ppl dont complain about the texture of
17:34 john_minetest on zeg's server we had privs problems. people always got privs. now we fond the solution:
17:34 VanessaE babyface1031: RBA's unified inventory has a trash field.
17:34 VanessaE NekoGloop: well, if *someome* hadn't pulled a cornernote... :-)
17:34 john_minetest it was the command block, driven by mesecons. everyone can edit it.
17:34 babyface1031 i dont think we have that mod
17:35 Zeg9 this mod is included with mesecons, I think
17:35 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, how texturing going?
17:35 NekoGloop VanessaE: Well if there was one person who had spoken up, then i would have.
17:35 Zeg9 Or I installed it by error, idk
17:35 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, still doin it
17:35 VanessaE NekoGloop: I just added gloopores support to HDX.
17:35 PilzAdam k
17:35 NekoGloop VanessaE: Good for you.
17:35 VanessaE john_minetest: that is not a default part of mesecons is it??
17:35 NekoGloop VanessaE: Curiousity strikes me with which ores you used?
17:36 Zeg9 VanessaE: It is
17:36 Zeg9 https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/tree/master/mesecons_commandblock
17:36 Zeg9 But it isn't craftable
17:36 Zeg9 I had put it for some reason, I didn't know anyone could edit it
17:37 VanessaE NekoGloop: for the lumps, I used three different pieces of lead, a chunk of pyrite, and something called cinabrio.  For the ores, several different clips from a big amethyst crystal.
17:37 OldCoder VanessaE, should I wait until the bug is fixed?
17:38 OldCoder Zeg9, O.K.
17:38 NekoGloop VanessaE: Show me. :P
17:38 VanessaE OldCoder: well, worst case is you'll end up with too many dry shrubs ;)
17:38 OldCoder How many is too many?
17:39 VanessaE OldCoder: in theory, the whole biome :-)
17:39 OldCoder Is there a possible patch?
17:39 OldCoder Oh
17:39 VanessaE yeah, I can fix it, I just haven't gotten to it yet
17:39 OldCoder A shrubbed world
17:39 john_minetest VanessaE: Yes, they are
17:39 OldCoder Not much better than a lavaed one
17:39 OldCoder I think I'll wait
17:39 john_minetest VanessaE: They are default part.
17:39 VanessaE john_minetest: which component?  I don't see anything related in my local copy of mesecons.
17:39 VanessaE NekoGloop: one sec..
17:40 Zeg9 VanessaE: It is in the latest git
17:41 VanessaE http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mineral_Cinabrio_GDFL013.jpg  --  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Pyrite_3.jpg  --  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amethyst_Quartz.jpg  --  and the three galena lumps were mine.
17:41 VanessaE NekoGloop: ^^^^^^^^^^
17:41 VanessaE check github for the results.
17:42 VanessaE Zeg9: ok, I don't have latest mesecons git.  good thing, too :)
17:42 Zeg9 It's a good thing, just that owner should be checked when the form is received...
17:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: in the case of the amethyst, I did a crop-selectbycolor-delete to get them to look like random lumps of crystal-ish material.  All were of course re-colored.
17:44 VanessaE NekoGloop: github link: https://github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/tree/master/Vanessa_512HD
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17:49 NekoGloop I have no idea what you just said, vanessae.
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17:50 NekoGloop VanessaE: Make the Kalite Torches have Kalite instead of Coal :P
17:50 Zigz1 Alright people, I need butter texture, rainbow dough texture, sugar texture, flour texture
17:50 Zeg9 Check food mod?
17:51 NekoGloop VanessaE: Your axes look like the handles are made of foam.
17:51 VanessaE NekoGloop: yeah, they need some work yet.
17:52 VanessaE oops!  yeah, the kalite torches shouldn't have black on them.  I'll fix it in a while
17:52 NekoGloop VanessaE: Were the original axes foam, by any chance?
17:52 VanessaE haha
17:53 NekoGloop Because those look like dollar-store toys.
17:54 VanessaE the axe was derived from a small hatchet actually.
17:55 NekoGloop I have a grand total of 50 mods in my minecraft.jar. Time to party because of -no crashing- *dances*
17:55 VanessaE axe:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Accetta.jpg
17:55 rubenwardy (5:50:32 PM) Zigz1: Alright people, I need butter texture, rainbow dough texture, sugar texture, flour texture
17:55 rubenwardy The food mod has a sugar texture. If you are making a food mod, you would be welcome to contribute or make an extension to the Food Mod
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17:56 VanessaE I kept only the head, resized it, added a different handle from another image.
17:56 OldCoder VanessaE, I wish to avoid worlds filled with shrubs. Any chance of the fix?
17:56 rubenwardy brb, restarting in Ubuntu
17:56 VanessaE OldCoder: let me look at it...
17:57 babyface1031 OldCoder are you changing the texture to Vanessa's
17:58 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, use modmanager instead of puttin everythin into jar
17:58 RealBadAngel its way easier
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17:58 NekoGloop eh... why the hell did i say that.
17:58 VanessaE OldCoder: hrm...tis will take a bit.
17:58 NekoGloop of course I'm using forge.
17:58 VanessaE OldCoder: do not update yet.
17:58 NekoGloop but still, no conflicts/crashing.
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17:59 Jordach hey VanessaE
17:59 VanessaE hey Jordach
18:00 * Jordach has got back from a sleepover
18:00 VanessaE cool
18:01 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: I'm using forge, derp.
18:01 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Still, 50 mods without conflicts. On anything. Amazing, no?
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18:01 Calinou mods without conflicts in MC? /me is impressed
18:01 NekoGloop Calinou: 50 mods without conflicts in MC.
18:02 NekoGloop No ID conflicts, no recipe overlaps, nothing.
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18:02 RealBadAngel 50 air swords? amazing :)
18:02 rubenwardy (Spoiler) Food Mod version 0.8 coming soon!
18:02 rubenwardy Roast Meals, Pies, Soups and Stews!
18:03 PilzAdam why dont you give spoiler alert first?
18:03 RealBadAngel but where to find a cow to get meat for a stew? :)
18:03 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: No, try metallurgy II (all modules), thaumcraft 3, buildcraft 3, thermal expansion, additional buildcraft pipes, OptiFine, Portal Gun mod, immibis's version of eloraam's microblocks, NEI, some NEI plugins, etc....
18:04 Kacey i am considering that my vm hates me
18:04 NekoGloop I would have EE3 except it sucks ATM, and IC2 except ID conflicts like you would not believe!
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18:05 Calinou "You Still Have A Chance To Share Your Thoughts On GNOME" --phoronix
18:05 * Calinou already did
18:05 Calinou :>
18:05 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Oh yeah, and Universal Electricity with all the 1.4.5 mods that are available for it, and Factorization.
18:06 NekoGloop There aint no 50 air swords here.
18:06 rubenwardy PilzAdam, is your version of Minetest_Game = to official minetest_game
18:07 PilzAdam my fork was renamed to PilzTest and i think i dont develop it futher
18:07 PilzAdam (now I have access to upstream)
18:07 rubenwardy so official is better
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18:08 Zeg9 brb
18:08 * rubenwardy is making minetest branch shaders_v4
18:08 PilzAdam ehm
18:08 PilzAdam the shaders_v are now upstream
18:08 PilzAdam *v4
18:09 OldCoder VanessaE, I will wait a bit
18:09 OldCoder Zeg9, see above
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18:10 rubenwardy 86% :D
18:10 Kacey VM is booting (sw)
18:11 * Jordach kills google chrome with 42 tabs and the process ends in 0.42 seconds!
18:11 VanessaE OldCoder: I'm working on a fix now.
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18:13 Kacey :D
18:13 Kacey D:
18:13 Kacey nvm
18:13 Calinou :D:
18:13 Calinou confusing face ^
18:13 Kacey :D:
18:14 Kacey lol it shows up as a smiley with a colon behind it
18:14 Kacey stupid VM
18:14 rubenwardy in Gimp, how do you make it so there is no transparencies like 58%, only 100% or 0%
18:15 celeron55 use the pen instead of the brush
18:15 Jordach tools -> alpha -> semi-flatten
18:16 Kacey there sure is alot of bots on...
18:16 Calinou layers > alpha > alpha threshold
18:16 VanessaE OldCoder: ok, the latest plandlife is under test on my server now.  Let's see how long until it crashes ;)
18:16 Kacey ;-)
18:16 VanessaE Calinou: semi-flatten is better for inventory images.
18:17 VanessaE but threshold alpha is better for wield images and in-game nodes
18:17 OldCoder k
18:17 * Jordach still uses gimp 2.6.12, feel free to kill jordach
18:17 Calinou 2.8 FTW
18:17 * Kacey kills Jordach
18:17 Calinou single windows :)
18:17 celeron55 i have 2.8 and it sucks
18:17 OldCoder It is a mixed bag
18:17 Calinou don't blame the export feature, the shortcut just changed from ctrl+shift+s to ctrl+shift+e...
18:17 OldCoder I have both
18:18 celeron55 it sometimes starts to eat all CPU for no reason, etc
18:19 celeron55 2.6 always worked flawlessly
18:19 Jordach +1
18:19 Kacey sfan5[iPod]: i cannot click anything on your website
18:19 john_minetest i play minetest, look at this channel and the first commentary i read is about GIMP... xD
18:20 OldCoder john_minetest, It is relevant to authors of mods
18:21 Kacey O.o i almost put xubuntu on my computer O.o
18:21 john_minetest yeah. i know. just was confused because i first thought: wrong channel.
18:21 Calinou xubuntu ftw
18:21 Kacey +1 ^
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18:21 Jordach trolololololololololololololololololololol
18:21 mark__ hi
18:21 Kacey bye
18:21 Kacey lolz
18:22 sfan5[iPod] Kacey: which website?
18:22 john_minetest OldCoder: btw, rotor112 on zeg's server can fly and use fast but it is not shown in the auth.txt or with /priv
18:22 Kacey sfan.funpic.de/minetest-builds or something like that
18:22 mark__ who is online, is it the list on the right
18:22 OldCoder john_minetest, what does auth.txt show?
18:22 OldCoder mark__, Yes
18:22 john_minetest interact, shout and money only
18:22 Kacey hacked client
18:23 sfan5[iPod] Kacey: its your browsers fault, open a new tab and type in the address again
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18:23 Kacey stupid google chrome
18:23 sfan5[iPod] Kacey: you can't hack fast priv
18:23 mark__ khonkhortisan?
18:23 * mark__
18:23 sfan5[iPod] google chrome sometimes does that
18:23 Jordach Kacey - google chrome works
18:23 sfan5[iPod] rh
18:23 Jordach for me
18:23 Calinou chromium > chrome
18:23 Calinou same thing, no spyware, cooler logo
18:23 Jordach i can dl fine anyday of the week
18:24 mark__ google chrome works, chromium doesn't
18:24 Calinou it does
18:24 Jordach thank you
18:24 Calinou goo.gl/A5jMJ
18:24 Calinou there you have win builds
18:24 * kaeza|AFK is back
18:24 mark__ and i have chromium :(
18:24 Kacey WB!!!!!
18:25 kaeza hey Kacey
18:25 Kacey stupid vm...
18:25 Calinou mark__: chromium is better than chrome
18:26 * kaeza kaeza grabs a popsickle
18:26 mark__ not the open source
18:26 Kacey but ie wins lol
18:26 kaeza uhh.. fail?
18:26 STHGOM if anyone is going to do an evin mob mod I think they should have outlaws instead of monsers
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18:26 Jordach no.
18:26 sfan5[iPod] IE sucks!
18:27 Jordach true dat
18:27 sfan5[iPod] STHGOM: check out mobs mod
18:27 mark__ how i add another tab on irc?
18:27 mark__ l
18:27 Kacey KIDDING!
18:27 sfan5[iPod] mark__: what irc client?
18:27 Jordach mark__ /join #<channel name>
18:27 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000 if anyone cares to wander around lag-ville ;)
18:27 mark__ freenode
18:28 VanessaE OldCoder: ^^ plantlife under test there.
18:28 Jordach or /join ##<channel name if its you just on there>
18:28 kaeza ..
18:28 STHGOM stan5[iPod] isn't that vombies?
18:28 RealBadAngel sfan5, ie doesnt suck, its actually pretty usable
18:28 RealBadAngel http://faildesk.net/2012/02/21/finally-a-true-purpose-for-internet-explorer/
18:28 OldCoder VanessaE, Indicate when I should attempt upgrade
18:28 OldCoder But perhaps we'll wait a few days
18:28 kaeza VanessaE: what's new in it?
18:28 mark__ i will.
18:28 mark__ yay lagville!
18:28 kaeza RealBadAngel: lol
18:28 Kacey brb
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18:28 sfan5[iPod] RealBadAngel: ie is the best browser.. for downloading other browsers
18:28 OldCoder Dogzilla131,
18:28 OldCoder Hi
18:29 * Jordach feels much better now
18:29 Dogzilla131 Hi
18:29 VanessaE kaeza: just bug fixes - I tried to fix the issue with waterliles, jungle grass turning into dry shrubs, and a growing nodes bug (see the forum post, bugs are still listed there)
18:29 * Jordach drinks an incredible amount of energy drink#]
18:29 VanessaE I guess I need testers for this.
18:30 VanessaE download the mod, change the delay and chance values near the start of the file to about 1/100 their current value, try it out on a fresh new world and see if it worked
18:30 OldCoder VanessaE, I'm reluctant to use the existing worlds for this
18:30 mark__ what mod
18:30 OldCoder Restarting worlds now
18:30 VanessaE OldCoder: it won't break anything.
18:30 OldCoder I don't want worlds full of shrubs
18:31 VanessaE OldCoder: it just may or may not fix anything ;)
18:31 OldCoder Shrubs are nice but
18:31 OldCoder Hmm? Go on
18:31 VanessaE mark__: plantlife:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3898
18:31 mark__ ty
18:31 OldCoder I'll restart now because Zeg9 people are waiting
18:32 mark__ who wants to test my server
18:33 mark__ EDIT: who wants to test my "server"
18:34 OldCoder Zeg9, john_minetest please test your world
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18:35 mark__ pp
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18:35 VanessaE mark__: sorry for the long download time, I have tons of mods :-)
18:35 mark__ who want to test my server?
18:35 mark__ i think i opened the ports... :)
18:36 mark__ 213.123.65.242 port: 30000 or 30001
18:37 mark__ who will test my server??
18:38 VanessaE Taoki: (and others) my server is restarted with latest git (15b86a6b9b[...])  -- anyone who is connected right now, please dis-/re-connect.
18:38 OldCoder mark__, welcome to serverhood
18:39 OldCoder :-)
18:39 Taoki tx
18:39 mark__ so test my server?? :)
18:39 mark__ :)(
18:40 klunk what version is needed to connect ?
18:40 klunk (mark ?)
18:41 mark__ and how do i set up a console server?, i have ubuntu
18:41 mark__ is it typing "minetestserver" in terminal?
18:41 RealBadAngel run game from terminal
18:42 * klunk lesson rba
18:42 klunk listen
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18:44 mark__ it not work
18:44 mark__ signal_handler_init() Using system-wide paths (NOT RUN_IN_PLACE) path_data = /usr/games/../share/minetest path_userdata = /home/mark/.minetest Debug streams initialized, disable_stderr=0 18:43:40: ACTION[main]: minetest with SER_FMT_VER_HIGHEST=20, VER=0.3.1 RUN_IN_PLACE=0 USE_GETTEXT=1 INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr BUILD_TYPE=Release INFO: Initial run of init_mapnode with g_texturesource=NULL. If this segfaults, there is a bug with somethi
18:45 mark__ and console says version = 0.3.1
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18:45 RealBadAngel you compiled it or got it from somewhere?
18:46 mark__ but never mind that, i have a multiplayer game, someone tell me if it works plz.
18:46 mark__ compiled, but used sudo apt-get for the minetestserver function in terminal
18:46 mark__ and i installed 0.3.1, not really surprise then
18:47 RealBadAngel heheh
18:47 mark__ but i think i got the server running in-game
18:47 RealBadAngel grab the latest one
18:47 mark__ plz test
18:47 RealBadAngel with what?
18:47 mark__ i did
18:47 RealBadAngel i dont have 0.3.1
18:47 mark__ umm...
18:47 mark__ 213.123.65.242
18:47 RealBadAngel get 0.4.4dev
18:48 mark__ port 30000 or 30001, opened both
18:48 klunk (0.4.3 for me ...)
18:48 RealBadAngel https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
18:49 RealBadAngel here you can get latest sources
18:49 mark__ i compiled latest with cmake
18:50 babyface1031_ hey everyone have you tryed the new inventory_plus feature you can add all you place easy and describe them too
18:50 mark__ 0.4.4 dev? soz just noticed
18:50 OldCoder babyface1031_, Explain how please
18:51 OldCoder Others: Do this because I can see the output and will make screenshots
18:51 babyface1031_ all you have to do is go to your inventory then main then my places
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18:51 kaeza VanessaE: is the world up?
18:51 mark__ nah inventory plus not for me i use bigger creative inventory with clear function
18:51 VanessaE yes
18:51 babyface1031_ then just name your area and describe it
18:51 kaeza I got ping timeout
18:51 VanessaE taoki and I are on it.
18:51 babyface1031_ hi OCtupus
18:51 Taoki Yes, if anyone wants join VanessaE's server for more testing and stuff
18:51 Octupus Hi babyface1031_
18:51 Taoki It seems to no longer be lagging too
18:52 VanessaE odd, she was just saying how it connects many times faster too
18:52 mark__ @vanessae joining ur server coz mine sucks
18:52 VanessaE mark__: welcome :-)  When you do, please give it lots of time to download
18:52 mark__ ok
18:52 mark__ already connecting
18:52 mark__ how do i do an internet speed test?
18:53 VanessaE go to speedtest.net
18:53 mark__ item and node defenitions done..
18:53 VanessaE that's the site my ISP recommends.
18:53 mark__ k ty
18:54 OldCoder VanessaE, please let me know when you trust plantlifee
18:54 OldCoder *e
18:54 VanessaE ok
18:54 Jordach OldCoder just use -e
18:54 Jordach ;)
18:55 mark__ ur server still not load
18:55 VanessaE it takes a lot of time, mark
18:57 mark__ what mods do u have?
18:58 leo_rockway kaeza: I didn't compile anything to make the irc mod work. I installed the lua-irc-git and luasockets packages for my system, using the package manager. Then I had to symlink the files, because for some reason it was only looking in /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/share instead of /usr/lib and /usr/share
18:59 leo_rockway then I copied the .lua files for your mod in the right folder.
18:59 VanessaE mark__: a metric assload ;)
18:59 OldCoder Jordach, habit
18:59 leo_rockway also, good afternoon everyone
18:59 OldCoder leo_rockway, Hi
18:59 kaeza leo_rockway:
18:59 kaeza that's good
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19:00 mark__ metric, not imperial
19:00 mark__ modern unit
19:00 kaeza It works too
19:00 VanessaE mark__: vanessa@rainbird:~$ ls -m ~/.minetest/games/vanessa_game_testing/mods/
19:00 VanessaE 3dforniture, add_moreores_tool, bobblocks, bucket, campfire, carts, default,
19:00 VanessaE doors, dye, farming, fire, give_initial_stuff, gloopores, hatches, homedecor,
19:00 VanessaE legacy, locked_sign, maptools, mese_starter_kit, minetest-mod-jumping,
19:00 VanessaE minetest-mod-mesecons, mods_here.txt, moreblocks, moreores, node_ownership,
19:00 VanessaE particles, pipeworks, plantlife, player_textures, sethome, signs, stairs,
19:00 VanessaE stairsplus, technic, unifiedbricks, unifieddyes, unified_inventory, vessels,
19:00 VanessaE wool, workbench, worldedit, xdoors2, xpanes
19:00 VanessaE that's what. :-)
19:00 kaeza I had to patch some thinngs in luasockets to get it working again on linux
19:01 mark__ holy....
19:01 leo_rockway default luasockets worked for me
19:01 kaeza VanessaE: mods_here.txt?
19:01 mark__ lol, lists mods here.txt
19:01 VanessaE kaeza: eh?
19:01 kaeza (16:57:41) VanessaE: minetest-mod-mesecons, mods_here.txt, moreblocks, moreores, node_ownership,
19:01 VanessaE oh, heh
19:01 VanessaE well that file just comes with minetest_game, I didn't delete it because I forgot it
19:01 leo_rockway kaeza: this: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/luasocket/
19:02 Taoki Anyone else wanna join VanessaE's server? I'm no now testing stuff :P
19:02 kaeza leo_rockway: checking...
19:02 babyface1031_ OldCoder Penguin says the textures are still the same
19:02 mark__ its still connecting
19:02 leo_rockway that's just a package in Arch, it worked for me.
19:03 leo_rockway and then I installed this one: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/lua-irc-git/
19:03 mark__ i started my server
19:04 mark__ its on 213.123.65.242
19:04 mark__ port 30000 or 30001
19:04 mark__ c'mon join! :)
19:05 kaeza leo_rockway: the luasocket version is the same I'm using
19:05 leo_rockway okay
19:06 mark__ does my server work??
19:06 Omnistudent I cant connect to it
19:07 kaeza leo_rockway: LuaIRC looks different though
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19:07 leo_rockway well, it works for me (TM)
19:08 mark__ ohhh. here goes port forwarding #2
19:08 kaeza sssssssssound familiar
19:08 OldCoder babyface1031_, shrug but ty
19:09 kaeza gawd damn it latest git commit broke something
19:09 mark__ try 192.168.1.254
19:10 leo_rockway mark__: that's your internal IP
19:10 leo_rockway you can only access that within your LAN
19:10 mark__ just try, if external not work :)
19:10 Omnistudent I tried it, didn't work
19:11 mark__ ok, gonna reconfigure port forward
19:11 Jordach .wik Setting_up_a_server
19:11 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'builtin_function_or_method' object has no attribute 'nick' (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/wikipedia.py", line 53, in wikipedia)
19:11 mark__ do i need to restart router?
19:11 Sudi hey how do i use the furnace?
19:11 Jordach sfan5 - i errored the bot
19:12 sfan5 uh...
19:12 sfan5 my fault
19:12 sfan5 i added a logging functionality
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19:13 sfan5 Jordach: its fixed now
19:13 Jordach .wik Setting_up_a_server
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19:13 Jordach .wik Setting_up_a_server
19:13 MinetestBot "Start your server on your desired port Note: It is recommended to leave the port at the default (30000)" - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
19:13 mark__ ABC (Another Bittorent Client) Age of Empires Age of Mythology AIM Talk Aliens vs. Predator America s Army Azureus Bay VPN BearShare BitTorrent Black and White BT Homesafe Alarm BT Homesafe Camera Call of Duty Call of Duty - United Offensive CarbonCopy32 Castle Wolfenstein Championship Manager 03-04 Checkpoint FW1 VPN Command and Conquer Generals Command and Conquer Zero Hour Counter Strike Cu-SeeMe Cornell
19:14 mark__ which one??
19:14 Jordach nonononono, use pastebin
19:14 sfan5 derp
19:14 mark__ TCP or UDP
19:14 Jordach UDP
19:15 mark__ whats a trigger protocol
19:17 mark__ try my servver now.
19:19 jordan4ibanez what exactly does get_staticdata do?
19:19 Jordach is it not obvious enough?
19:19 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, the returned string will be passed to on_activate()
19:20 PilzAdam because all variables are lost otherwise
19:20 mark__ vannesae
19:20 jordan4ibanez Well, no, because my quarry mod is not laggy for about 30 seconds, then it starts becoming laggy, and it was not having that problem before i used staticdata
19:21 jordan4ibanez i mean, did i do something wrong here? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Da7WSYQG
19:22 PilzAdam looks ok
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19:24 mark__ khonkhortisan...
19:24 mark__ vanessae...
19:24 jordan4ibanez Oh wait...
19:25 jordan4ibanez It does math.floor every time it moves, could that be it?
19:25 PilzAdam thats not a CPU intensive function
19:26 mark__ VanessaE
19:27 PilzAdam if you look at my carts mod code you will see you can do quite a lot in on_step()
19:27 mark__ adam, why does /clearobjects take so long??
19:27 PilzAdam it always takes long
19:27 mark__ and what are you on about
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19:28 mark__ what mod do u recommend
19:28 Zeg9 Bye, all
19:28 mark__ i need the perfect mods to make a hotel
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19:31 jordan4ibanez I'm going out on a limb and saying it is not my mod, but the fact that my mod modifies the terrain so much that it causes map saving to lag the game
19:32 leo_in-game <singleplayer> jordan4ibanez: did water push the player in MT++?
19:32 jordan4ibanez no
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19:32 mark__ ??
19:32 mark__ mt++??
19:33 leo_in-game <singleplayer> a fork
19:33 Muadtralk has been abandoned for a rather long time
19:33 leo_in-game <singleplayer> yup
19:33 mark__ what mods do you recommend for making a hotel
19:33 PilzAdam default
19:33 mark__ wait, leo in game????
19:33 leo_in-game <singleplayer> yup
19:34 Muadtralk beat me to it pilzadam
19:34 leo_in-game <singleplayer> I'm chatting from within MT, thanks to kaeza.
19:34 mark__ with irc mod??
19:34 leo_in-game <singleplayer> correct
19:34 mark__ never got it to work
19:35 Jordach mark__ it does not run on windows systems
19:35 kaeza mark__: I'm fixing some things
19:35 kaeza latest git commit broke some things
19:35 leo_in-game <singleplayer> water and moving water have a different hue of blue...
19:35 mark__ i dont have windows
19:35 leo_in-game <singleplayer> kaeza: latest commit of irc mod?
19:35 kaeza yes
19:35 mark__ i have lubuntu
19:35 leo_in-game <singleplayer> I haven't updated yet. I'm on very latest MT, though.
19:36 * marktraceur waves
19:36 * mark__ wave too
19:36 * mark__ waves too
19:36 leo_in-game <singleplayer> huh... a rat was walking with a dirt monster attached >.<
19:36 * mark__ traceur
19:37 mark__ __
19:37 * mark__ __>>
19:37 marktraceur mark__: I think I know the person who has the un-underscored version of that nick, strangely
19:37 leo_in-game *** singleplayer left the game
19:38 Taoki I wonder if it's considered evil to use "Disable camera updates" to find hidden underground caves :P
19:38 jordan4ibanez I can't wait until you cannot place items inside yourself
19:38 marktraceur *nod* Mark Bergsma, he's one of our ops-type people IIRC
19:38 jordan4ibanez taoki, shouldn't that be removed? :o
19:38 Taoki It's an useful feature
19:39 jordan4ibanez oh okay
19:39 mark__ what mods do u recommend to make a hotel
19:39 jordan4ibanez 3d fornature,
19:40 mark__ got it
19:40 * Jordach feels rage coming on
19:40 leo_rockway mark__: some sort of currency mod...
19:41 jordan4ibanez I love the blueness at night
19:41 mark__ thats only for when i got my server running
19:41 leo_rockway I told a friend of mine about the advancement in MT in the last few days
19:41 leo_rockway I mentioned the things that MT++ could do
19:41 leo_rockway and he says "Everything but the hunger bar plox"
19:41 mark__ unless i can get NPC's in game
19:42 mark__ is player an entity
19:42 mark__ is the player an entity
19:42 jordan4ibanez plox?
19:43 leo_rockway it's a silly way  of saying "please" online >.<
19:43 jordan4ibanez oh okay lol
19:45 marktraceur So
19:45 marktraceur http://paste.marktraceur.info/12
19:45 marktraceur For some reason, the factory won't remove the item from the src inventory.
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19:46 marktraceur This should happen at line 79 of factory_abm.lua
19:46 marktraceur But the for loop at line 77 actually never fires
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19:46 mark____ lol 4 _ _ _ _ now
19:47 marktraceur Which is strange, because it should be the output of get_craft_recipe().items, with the crafted item coming directly from a get_craft_result() call.
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19:48 markveidemanis hihihi
19:48 marktraceur I have to figure that the for loop is somehow wrong, or the output of get_craft_recipe is something I don't expect. But the API doesn't seem to disagree with me.
19:48 bob_286 hi
19:48 markveidemanis know any good mods for making a hotel?
19:48 bob_286 what is minetest
19:48 bob_286 lok
19:48 bob_286 lol
19:49 bob_286 its me doc22
19:49 Jordach an alternative to minecraft]
19:49 markveidemanis ur on the wrong channel
19:49 markveidemanis go to channel #minecraft
19:49 Doc22_ i was joking
19:49 Doc22_ lol
19:49 Doc22_ I sometimes get bored
19:49 Doc22_ and do something dumb
19:49 Doc22_ :P
19:50 markveidemanis question to modder...
19:50 markveidemanis how do i make a dropped item move
19:50 Doc22_ im not quite sure
19:50 marktraceur markveidemanis: set_velocity?
19:50 kaeza leo_rockway: fixed
19:50 Doc22_ lemme look at api
19:50 Kacey joined #minetest
19:50 Doc22_ hey kacey
19:50 kaeza hey Kacey
19:50 kaeza hey Doc22_
19:51 markveidemanis is it in your mod
19:51 markveidemanis industrial or soething
19:51 marktraceur markveidemanis: Sorry, setvelocity
19:51 Doc22_ hey kaeza
19:51 Kacey hey doc
19:51 markveidemanis industru
19:51 marktraceur markveidemanis: Look at doc/lua_api.txt, it has more information on setvelocity (you can perform a text search for it)
19:51 markveidemanis y modpack
19:52 Doc22_ kacey you want to work on mesecons
19:52 marktraceur markveidemanis: My modpack doesn't use setvelocity, no
19:52 Kacey 0.4.3 please
19:52 Jordach Kacey - most Unix users use latest git
19:52 Jordach (in fact 90% of them use latest git)
19:52 Kacey unix?
19:52 Jordach not to mention the modders
19:53 markveidemanis but the transactor...
19:53 marktraceur Kacey: More accurately, GNU (which is Not UNIX)
19:54 Kacey i have windows
19:54 markveidemanis my lubuntu skips to the start of a directory when exiting into it
19:55 markveidemanis + anyone know a goo currency mod
19:55 markveidemanis #goo
19:55 markveidemanis #GOOD
19:56 jordan4ibanez Umm, how do i craft a creeper?
19:56 jordan4ibanez HELOOOO
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19:57 Kacey jordan4ibanez: what mod?
19:57 jordan4ibanez Umm, ISNT THIS MINECRAFT
19:57 marktraceur markveidemanis: This is the only one I know: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2263
19:57 marktraceur markveidemanis: I haven't used it, but it looks relatively not painful
19:58 marktraceur Does anyone have any idea what gets returned from get_craft_recipe().items? I have to assume it's a table of ItemStacks, but I haven't been able to confirm that
19:58 Jordach then use dump(get_craft_recipe().items)
19:58 marktraceur Hrm.
19:59 marktraceur print(dump()), right?
19:59 Jordach yeah
19:59 marktraceur Hm, it's always nil by the time it gets to me. Odd.
20:00 marktraceur Jordach: Thanks, that helps
20:00 jordan4ibanez If you don't use print(dump(value())) then it will crash
20:00 Jordach marktraceur - as with all languages, remember to use print() often to find out whats happenining
20:00 jordan4ibanez well, my quarry seems to be running fine on linux, i don't know what the issue is on windows
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20:01 jordan4ibanez Why is it that even valve has found that linux runs games faster than windows?
20:01 artur99 in 044 are there mesecons?
20:02 Jordach yed
20:02 Jordach yes
20:02 kaeza artur99: 0.4.4*
20:02 Jordach but not included
20:02 artur99 i have mese, how to make?
20:02 marktraceur Jordach: I had forgotten about dump() is all :)
20:02 Kacey afk
20:03 * Jordach sighs
20:03 artur99 ?
20:04 markveidemanis minetest unified inventory not work...
20:04 marktraceur Jordach: What's up?
20:05 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, i have to give up :( all i draw looks like shit
20:05 VanessaE marktraceur: do you have latest git less than ~18 hours old?
20:05 PilzAdam :(
20:05 RealBadAngel im not good at all at 16px
20:05 VanessaE markveidemanis:  ^^^^^^^^
20:05 marktraceur VanessaE: Nope, sorry
20:05 marktraceur Oh, heh
20:06 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, im sorry
20:06 VanessaE stupid tab complete...match my thoughts, not what I type damn it :)
20:06 marktraceur Woo, factory works
20:07 VanessaE cool
20:07 marktraceur VanessaE: FYI, XChat's "tab-complete based on who last spoke" might help sometimes. It wouldn't have, above, but meh
20:07 * OldCoder is AFK for just 15 minutes and will be here all day afterward
20:07 VanessaE well fortunatelt it has re-tabbing also.
20:08 artur99 is this interviory disponibble: http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.png ?
20:09 Sudi hey how do i use the furnance?
20:09 Sudi to melt stuff?
20:10 artur99 do u have wood?
20:10 Sudi yes
20:10 artur99 sudi: do u have wood?
20:10 artur99 aha
20:10 artur99 ok
20:10 VanessaE Sudi: find some coal, find something to smelt.  put the coal in the lower left slot of the furnace, put the other material in the upper left slot.
20:10 artur99 put the wood down
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20:10 Sudi lol
20:10 VanessaE any other flammable stuff will work too, e.g. the aforementioned wood
20:11 Sudi whats the slots on the right?
20:11 VanessaE output
20:11 Sudi ahh
20:11 VanessaE whatever the furnace makes, it puts there.
20:16 * kaeza is looking at the IRC log
20:16 kaeza hmmm....
20:20 markveidemanis joined #minetest
20:20 markveidemanis hiiiiiiiiiiiii
20:21 VanessaE hi
20:21 kaeza hi
20:21 Kacey back
20:21 Kacey hi
20:21 kaeza wb
20:21 Kacey mmmm delicious lunch
20:21 * kaeza wants some lunch
20:22 markveidemanis who knows a better inventory mod
20:22 kaeza unified_inventory
20:22 VanessaE does minetestserver use any port other than 30000 (or whatever you've told it to use)?   Like for outgoing connections or whatever
20:22 markveidemanis it not work
20:22 Kacey idk
20:23 VanessaE markveidemanis: do you have latest 0.4.4-dev git from no more than 18 hours ago?
20:23 kaeza markveidemanis: what MT version do you have?
20:23 markveidemanis no, idk
20:23 kaeza see at the top-left of the screen
20:23 markveidemanis i need latest
20:23 markveidemanis yep
20:23 kaeza you should see something like "0.4.x"
20:23 Kacey kaeza can you get on VanessaE's server?
20:23 VanessaE markveidemanis: you need to update.
20:24 markveidemanis 0.4.3
20:24 kaeza Kacey: k
20:24 markveidemanis ok.how
20:24 VanessaE 0.4.3 is too old for unified_inventory
20:24 Kacey wow already?
20:24 markveidemanis so how do i compile latest
20:24 kaeza you talking to me Kacey?
20:24 Kacey patience
20:25 VanessaE instructions are in the README.  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L78
20:25 Kacey no i was talking to everyone
20:25 kaeza k
20:25 kaeza Kacey: i'm in
20:25 markveidemanis k ty
20:26 Kacey hang on
20:26 Kacey and my client crashes...
20:26 VanessaE heh
20:26 Kacey might not have latest
20:27 kaeza Windows...
20:27 Kacey sucks ^
20:27 kaeza heck
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20:27 VanessaE heh
20:27 kaeza as I said Windows I crashed
20:27 Kacey lol
20:27 kaeza Seg fault it seems
20:28 Kacey lol
20:28 marktraceur kaeza: Say it ain't so!
20:28 Kacey HA i can click again!!!!!1!!!
20:29 Kacey getting the dev...
20:29 kaeza marktraceur: I prefer Puppy Linux
20:29 kaeza i'm using Ubuntu 12.04
20:29 marktraceur *nod*
20:30 kaeza cause I couldn't get a DRI driver for my card
20:30 * marktraceur was reminded by himself that Oasis is amazing, so is now listening to that
20:30 marktraceur Wait. That's not Oasis.
20:30 marktraceur Weezer. Well, that's next then.
20:31 * kaeza is listening to November Rain by Guns N' Roses
20:31 kaeza pretty sad song
20:31 Kacey the pride by five finger death punch is awesome
20:32 * Jordach likes money for nothing by dire straits http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwDDswGsJ60
20:32 kaeza now Walking on the Sun by Smash Mouth
20:33 marktraceur Request: Someone should write a method for getting all fuel items from registered_items or so
20:33 kaeza ^+1
20:33 Kacey kaeza: are you on the server?
20:33 kaeza yes
20:33 kaeza seems so
20:33 Kacey k
20:34 Kacey i got latest
20:34 Kacey walk over to me kaeza
20:35 kaeza WTF is that???
20:35 Kacey what
20:36 kaeza here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1565639742.jpg
20:36 Kacey my skin?
20:36 kaeza yes
20:36 VanessaE kaeza, kaeza, Taoki : server restart coming...
20:36 kaeza VanessaE: k, k
20:36 kaeza :)
20:37 VanessaE done.
20:37 thexyz kaeza: everything is too blurry
20:37 kaeza thexyz: it's mipmapping and antialiasing
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20:37 thexyz you'd better disable it; i guess it's only useful for high-res texture packs
20:37 Kacey that is my custom skin
20:38 kaeza Kacey: cool
20:38 markveidemanis minetest is compiling.....
20:38 Kacey did you restart the server VanessaE?
20:38 VanessaE already yes
20:38 kaeza VanessaE: connecting
20:38 Kacey k that explains my disconnect
20:39 kaeza VanessaE: anything new?
20:39 Kacey i like my blond skin
20:40 Kacey blonde guy skin*
20:40 markveidemanis what this about??
20:40 Kacey https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1565639742.jpg
20:40 * Kacey is a master at copy and paste
20:41 * Jordach smells the hd filtering enabled
20:41 markveidemanis altialiasing screws up player...yes
20:42 kaeza Kacey: learn Ctrl+Insert and Shift+Insert first
20:42 Kacey nope
20:42 markveidemanis hd filter??
20:42 Kacey right-click and copy
20:42 Jordach we've had that for sometime now
20:42 markveidemanis minetest 70% compiling
20:42 kaeza that is n008 Kacey
20:42 Kacey i know
20:42 markveidemanis takes up more space than minecraft!!
20:43 kaeza cool there is a shower behind the cart station
20:43 markveidemanis not efficient yet
20:43 marktraceur markveidemanis: Because you get the source code. That's a good thing :)
20:43 celeron55 the end result is a couple of MBs though 8)
20:43 marktraceur markveidemanis: Only a very small portion of that disk space will actually be accessed during runtime, so don't worry
20:43 kaeza hey celeron55
20:44 jordan4ibanez Hello celeron55
20:44 markveidemanis ok, so slow tho
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20:44 kaeza markveidemanis: are you using opengl?
20:44 markveidemanis currently, i got 20 MB
20:44 markveidemanis ni, irrnicht, i think
20:44 markveidemanis irrlicht
20:44 Kacey irrlicht
20:45 markveidemanis ...i think#
20:45 Kacey lol
20:45 markveidemanis 94%...
20:45 markveidemanis 95...
20:45 markveidemanis 98...
20:45 Kacey wow unresponsiveness
20:45 markveidemanis 98!!!>>>>
20:46 markveidemanis (99)!!!!!!:):):):):)
20:46 marktraceur markveidemanis: Please don't post your progress bar output in the channel
20:46 kaeza can the trampolines be fixed to not damage the player?
20:46 Kacey +1 ^
20:46 markveidemanis 1000 sorry
20:46 kaeza yay I got +1 by accident :D
20:46 markveidemanis it not doing anything not
20:46 Kacey lol
20:46 markveidemanis now
20:46 markveidemanis nvm, works
20:47 Kacey you deserve it though kaeza
20:47 kaeza oh stop it you :)
20:47 Kacey i need about +9999999999999 for that skin i made
20:47 kaeza +1
20:47 markveidemanis permission denied to remove minetest build folder
20:47 Muadtralk what skin?
20:47 kaeza now you need +9999999999998
20:47 Muadtralk I wanna see
20:47 markveidemanis HELP!!!
20:47 Kacey +99999999999999998 more...
20:47 Kacey https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1565639742.jpg
20:48 Kacey that skin
20:48 Muadtralk :P +1 and you look like your using burningsvideo
20:48 VanessaE THERE we go
20:48 Kacey kaeza took that pic
20:49 VanessaE OldCoder: I think I fixed the junglegrass bug.
20:49 kaeza what pic?
20:49 Kacey https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1565639742.jpg
20:49 Muadtralk or is it some other setting to make things look fuzzy
20:49 kaeza that's the one i made
20:49 leo_rockway what's the recipe for rails? o.o
20:49 kaeza .wik Rails
20:49 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Rails
20:49 leo_rockway thanks
20:49 leo_rockway oh
20:49 VanessaE leo_rockway: I believe it is:
20:49 leo_rockway :S
20:49 VanessaE S - S
20:49 VanessaE S s S
20:49 VanessaE S - S
20:50 VanessaE S = steel, s = stick
20:50 leo_rockway thanks
20:50 leo_rockway I was doing the opposite
20:50 OldCoder VanessaE, k
20:50 Muadtralk its expensive to make such almost useless things
20:50 VanessaE OldCoder: still testing.
20:50 OldCoder VanessaE, play with it a bit. I'll update later today if you wish me to.
20:50 OldCoder Then you will have plenty testing
20:50 markveidemanis shaders???
20:51 thexyz shaders!
20:51 VanessaE shaders.
20:51 Muadtralk link or it doesnt exist
20:51 kaeza SHADERS!
20:51 Taoki indeed :)
20:51 NakedFury the game looks better with them
20:51 kaeza Muadtralk: master
20:51 kaeza github master
20:51 thexyz Muadtralk: i've already posted some screenshots
20:51 Muadtralk whos master?
20:52 Muadtralk not celerons
20:52 thexyz <thexyz> shaders are now in master, nice, before: http://i.imgur.com/GzThO.png, after: http://i.imgur.com/CBqtf.png
20:52 RealBadAngel Muadtralk, then try this http://realbadangel.pl/unifiedinventory.zip
20:52 RealBadAngel with latest build of course :)
20:52 Muadtralk why did you turn on new style water for the second?
20:53 kaeza WOW can you see me Kacey?
20:53 kaeza in the server
20:53 kaeza lol
20:53 Muadtralk it made me think for a second that the shaders added this feature
20:53 kaeza I'm in SPAAAAAACE
20:53 leo_rockway my friend says the cart riding is smoother than MC
20:53 thexyz Muadtralk: they did
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20:53 thexyz the only setting changed between taking those screenshots is enable shaders
20:54 Muadtralk 0.0?
20:54 Muadtralk that water is my favorite setting..... now its broken?
20:54 VanessaE wow, gravel biome in the middle of the desert
20:55 VanessaE seed 7373524391885539576 near coords 376,15,-315
20:57 kaeza VanessaE: checking...
20:57 thexyz can anybody confirm this https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/332 ?
20:57 Muadtralk it crashed
20:58 VanessaE thexyz: yeah, I had that happen before too.
20:58 thexyz why didn't you report it then?
20:58 VanessaE because it didn't occur to me to report it? :-)
20:59 sfan5 .c 1
20:59 MinetestBot 1
20:59 kaeza .c 255 & 25
20:59 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
20:59 kaeza sfan5: no binary math?
21:00 sfan5 blame google caculator
21:00 kaeza err..bitwise operators
21:01 sfan5 or write a python script that does that [input=string, output=number or None]
21:01 kaeza .c 1 or 2
21:01 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
21:02 Kacey .c 1 & 0
21:02 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
21:02 kaeza .cl |@~|#~
21:03 leo_rockway dat fly privilege and suffocate mod...
21:03 leo_rockway I keep losing hearts :S
21:03 Kacey haha make it think
21:03 Kacey .commands
21:03 kaeza .gc |@~|#~
21:03 MinetestBot |@~|#~: 0
21:04 * kaeza is satisfied
21:04 Kacey .commands
21:04 Kacey uugh why not...
21:05 kaeza .g Kacey
21:05 MinetestBot kaeza: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0434144/
21:06 PilzAdam gtg; bye
21:06 thexyz wtf
21:06 kaeza bye
21:06 thexyz porn in #minetest, again
21:06 kaeza WTF MinetestBot???
21:08 Muadtralk cool kacey
21:08 RealBadAngel nice site you have lol
21:09 * kaeza thinks Kacey is fapping
21:09 Muadtralk ah yes ClubKacey.com has such class
21:09 kaeza lol
21:10 thexyz Muadtralk: please, discuss porn somewhere else
21:11 thexyz i don't have anything personally against it, but some people don't agree that #minetest is good for such discussions
21:11 Muadtralk minetestbot started it
21:12 Muadtralk and kaeza escalated it
21:12 kaeza no u
21:12 Kacey what about me?!?!
21:12 Kacey .g
21:12 MinetestBot Kacey: .g what?
21:13 Kacey .g your mom
21:13 MinetestBot Kacey: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=your%20mom
21:13 Muadtralk I will stop :|
21:13 kaeza me too :|
21:14 kaeza .g lol
21:14 MinetestBot kaeza: http://leagueoflegends.com/
21:15 kaeza that should be "Laugh Out Loud"
21:15 kaeza or even "Legend of Legaia"
21:15 Kacey .g weed
21:15 MinetestBot Kacey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weed
21:15 NakedFury guys please dont spam the bot, it wasnt made to play around
21:15 Kacey lol
21:15 thexyz left #minetest
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21:16 kaeza NakedFury: sowwy
21:16 NakedFury not me, its the other guys with power to kick.
21:16 Kacey lucky
21:19 * Kacey will take orders now for custom skins
21:19 Kacey you know what confuses me
21:20 Kacey why do we stay in 0.4.x when we could be in 0.5.x
21:20 marktraceur Kacey: How they let California drivers on the road when they clearly can't read the word "Stop"?
21:20 marktraceur Oh, K
21:20 Kacey +1 ^^
21:20 VanessaE Kacey: because c55 is waiting for some kind of major architectural/engine change for that
21:21 VanessaE so far there hasn't been anything he'd call "major" yet.
21:21 Kacey -_-
21:21 Kacey i wish there was client side skins
21:23 kaeza hmmm...
21:23 Kacey afk
21:24 kaeza surely 1.0 will be a freaking great release
21:24 kaeza if we ever get that far
21:24 Muadtralk we will
21:24 * VanessaE argues with some code
21:24 Muadtralk I sure of that
21:25 NakedFury slowly and steadily towards the 1.0 release
21:27 Kacey backz
21:28 Kacey .g minetest
21:28 MinetestBot Kacey: http://minetest.net/
21:28 Kacey hmmmmm wow
21:28 Kacey .g celeron55
21:28 MinetestBot Kacey: https://github.com/celeron55
21:28 Kacey ok im done
21:29 marktraceur Kacey: Good.
21:29 leo_rockway tekk.com.ar:30000 in case anybody wants to chill
21:29 Kacey had to see
21:29 Kacey k ill get on
21:29 marktraceur Kacey: You do realize there's a web interface to Google
21:29 kaeza leo_rockway: es un servidor permanente?
21:30 Kacey ya but chrome wont work
21:30 marktraceur Kacey: Then use Firefox
21:30 Kacey i use that at school and HATE it
21:30 marktraceur Kacey: Then use Lynx
21:30 kaeza marktraceur: lol lynx
21:30 Kacey naw ill stick wit chrome
21:30 marktraceur Kacey: But don't bitch at me that your browser isn't working, it's not my problem
21:31 Kacey leo_rockway: im on
21:32 leo_rockway there's nothing in that world
21:32 leo_rockway just build whatever
21:32 Kacey k
21:32 leo_rockway kaeza: más o menos
21:32 leo_rockway kaeza: I want it to be, but, who knows?
21:33 kaeza leo_rockway: because the folks at the spanish section have been looking for a 100% spanish server
21:35 leo_rockway kaeza: yes, I saw that, but I can't guarantee it will be 100% Spanish
21:35 leo_rockway they should join though
21:36 leo_rockway Kacey: do you feel it laggy?
21:37 leo_rockway drop_items feels laggy to me
21:38 Kacey it was kind of laggy and the inventory was weird
21:39 leo_rockway kaeza: that's why I'm not sure if it should be a permanent server.
21:39 Kacey lol spanish is fun
21:40 leo_rockway I like how the carts debug is in German
21:40 Kacey lol
21:40 leo_rockway or looks like German
21:40 Kacey i understand german also
21:40 leo_rockway [cartsDebug] => return { ["items"] = {  }, ["fallen"] = false, ["dir"] = "z-", ["bremsen"] = false, ["fahren"] = false, ["weiche"] = {  }, ["old_dir"] = "z-" }
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21:40 Kacey HOLA!!!!
21:41 kaeza hola Kacey. hablas español? no lo creo :)
21:42 marktraceur Donde esta el queso de governmente? En mi pantalones!
21:42 Kacey si habla español
21:42 Kacey ok kinda
21:42 leo_rockway http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3940 <--- somebody trying to bring herobryne (sp?)?
21:45 marktraceur leo_rockway: Herobrine, 'brine' is spelled the same way it is normally
21:45 leo_rockway okay
21:45 leo_rockway thanks
21:46 kaeza Kacey: that's bad google translate
21:46 Kacey el gato (forgot the word for purple)
21:46 kaeza purpura
21:46 FreeFull Cat?
21:47 Kacey trying to say the purple cat
21:47 kaeza "El Gato Púrpura"
21:47 Kacey mexican spanish
21:47 kaeza that's "the purple cat"
21:48 Kacey .g translator
21:48 MinetestBot Kacey: http://translate.google.com/
21:48 Kacey of course
21:49 Kacey german
21:49 FreeFull Perro pequeño
21:49 kaeza sfan5: can the bot be fixed to interface with google translate?
21:49 kaeza FreeFull: "small dog"
21:49 jin_xi but why
21:49 FreeFull kaeza: Ayup
21:50 FreeFull I forgot what hotdog was
21:50 kaeza "perro caliente"
21:50 kaeza o "perrito caliente"
21:50 Kacey kann jemand verstehen?
21:50 kaeza O.o
21:51 FreeFull Ja
21:51 Kacey aufhören google translate
21:51 celeron55 23:21:19 < Kacey> why do we stay in 0.4.x when we could be in 0.5.x
21:51 FreeFull Use UTF-8 for your IRC client please
21:51 celeron55 yeah, let's just raise the version number to, say, 42
21:51 celeron55 because higher means better!
21:51 FreeFull 1000000.3.1
21:51 celeron55 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
21:51 kaeza lol^
21:51 Kacey ooh hallo c55
21:52 kaeza celeron55: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc
21:52 celeron55 minetest 9000000000 turbo
21:52 celeron55 deluxe extreme edition
21:52 Kacey ich gebe Ihnen ein Cookie, wenn Sie mir, was dieser sagt zu sagen
21:52 FreeFull 90000000000b
21:52 FreeFull 90000000000 zeta gamma epsilon mega
21:53 Kacey ooh too much fun
21:53 celeron55 http://www.nothings.org/stb_vorbis/ <- see "Version History"
21:53 Kacey .g ich gebe Ihnen ein Cookie, wenn Sie mir, was dieser sagt zu sagen
21:53 MinetestBot Kacey: http://www.implenia.com/de-ch/medien/themen-amp-projekte/frauen-bei-implenia.html
21:53 celeron55 i'm going to do that
21:53 kaeza "minetest z5555555 (1e+1000).0.0 deluxe extreme premium ultra enterprise edition"
21:54 Kacey minetest 0.0.1 where everthing does not exist
21:54 FreeFull MinetestPlus Chicago
21:55 FreeFull No version numbers at all
21:55 kaeza celeron55: what was the first minetest version? just for the lulz
21:55 celeron55 i'm using firefox 15 which is basically exactly the same as 3.6
21:55 FreeFull celeron55: Eh, 4 did introduce some important good stuff
21:55 FreeFull I'm using firefox 17
21:55 NakedFury its gonna be Minetest [insert animal type] [insert animal name]. example: Minetest Mammal Iguana edition/version
21:56 FreeFull Minetest Sneaky Elephant
21:56 * Kacey loves german
21:56 kaeza NakedFury: seems like Ubuntu naming scheme
21:56 FreeFull Minetest Mexican Salad
21:56 NakedFury and apple with their animal names and java too
21:56 celeron55 ok, i'll call minetest versions by diffent names of poop
21:56 Kacey minetest german lardyman
21:56 FreeFull Minetest Gutsy Guts
21:56 NakedFury Minetest Le Tiger version
21:56 celeron55 0.4.3 is "minetest doodoo"
21:56 FreeFull celeron55: Best idea
21:56 celeron55 0.4.4 will be minetest crap
21:57 FreeFull 0.4.5 will be minetest caca
21:57 Kacey no 0.3.1 is sh*t
21:57 FreeFull With built in cacalib support for graphics
21:57 Kacey minetest sh*t
21:57 kaeza and minetest 1.0 "THA SHIZZZNESS"
21:57 FreeFull 1.1 shizznizzle
21:57 NakedFury Minetest Mojon version
21:57 Kacey 2.0 sall be the Chuck Norris edition
21:57 FreeFull Minetest Antivirus 2020
21:57 Kacey shall*
21:57 NakedFury or Minetest Submarine
21:58 kaeza FreeFull: lolz
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21:58 leo_rockway FF 20!
21:58 Kacey brb
21:58 kaeza leo_rockway: Final Fantasy 20?
21:58 FreeFull Why did firefox overtake final fantasy on numbers
21:58 FreeFull Why
21:58 leo_rockway kaeza: Firefox o.o
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21:58 kaeza FreeFull: and Final Fantasy is even older than firefox
21:59 FreeFull They're just copying chrome's versioning
21:59 FreeFull Final Fantasy is up to 14 right now, numberwise
22:00 FreeFull Firefox is at 17
22:00 leo_rockway yes, I don't like how they release a new version number every few months.
22:00 kaeza it's marketing crap
22:00 FreeFull I bet the next ubuntu will be named Horny Hedgehog
22:00 leo_rockway also, minetest caca would be awesome, hehe
22:00 kaeza the user will be "OMG!!! I CAN HAZ FIREFOX 231!!!
22:00 Kacey celeron55 werden es nie erfahren, dass ich heimlich genießen beobachtete ihn durch das Internet ...
22:01 FreeFull Firefox 1337
22:01 Kacey hey anyone want to join my server?
22:01 kaeza firefow will never 3v4r be 1337
22:02 kaeza firefox*
22:02 FreeFull M1n3t3s7 1333337
22:02 kaeza he is more of a number 008
22:02 kaeza 08*
22:03 kaeza FreeFull: that's better
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22:04 kaeza Kacey: Internet Protocol Address plz
22:05 FreeFull 10.0.0.1
22:06 OldCoder Hmm
22:06 marktraceur OK, factories and transactors are both working well now, I'll start the release process
22:07 babyface1031_ what do your factories do?
22:07 kaeza marktraceur: link?
22:08 marktraceur babyface1031_: They auto-craft, of course
22:08 babyface1031_ cool
22:08 marktraceur kaeza: Not ready yet, need to create a bunch of repos and then update the modpack to have all of the mods
22:09 kaeza gawd that guilleelcapoextra guy in the forums makes my eyes bleed
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22:24 khonkhortisan hello mark__
22:26 khonkhortisan aha. Using the ip from the private chat and the log of this channel, I know it was markveidemanis.
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22:44 marktraceur kaeza: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 done
22:45 * marktraceur will work on screenshots
22:47 kaeza http://cheezburger.com/6823491072
22:49 kaeza marktraceur: whi is the bzip2 WAAAAAY much smaller than the gzipped version?
22:49 kaeza why*
22:49 marktraceur kaeza: I don't know, could be anything
22:49 marktraceur kaeza: Maybe bz2 does better with whitespace?
22:50 kaeza maybe
22:50 kaeza but 158K vs 35K?
22:50 kaeza gzip sucks
22:50 marktraceur Or better at images, possibly
22:52 babyface1031_ how so you make glass tubes
22:53 marktraceur Boy, it's not easy making a factory :)
22:54 marktraceur I'm happy it worked out that way
22:54 kaeza marktraceur: now testing...
22:55 VanessaE Taoki, kaeza, others:  sorry for the server being slow.  It was my fault.  restarted with a fix in place - it should be better now.
22:55 VanessaE (I mean slow in the last couple of hours)
22:55 kaeza marktraceur: are the items in creative inv?
22:56 kaeza VanessaE: np
22:56 marktraceur kaeza: Probably not
22:56 VanessaE kaeza: your waterlily bug ain't fixed yet, but I think I finally fixed the dry shrub and growing-surfaces bugs.
22:57 kaeza VanessaE: Great! take your time. I'm not in a hurry about it
22:57 kaeza :)
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22:57 VanessaE kaeza: any objections if I just make it dependent on depth of the water immediately below the node?  Such a fix would be pretty easy
22:57 kaeza I could use the `clean' mod to remove them all and start again anyways
22:58 kaeza VanessaE: no
22:58 kaeza that's what I was thinking
22:58 kaeza how much depth are you planning?
22:59 VanessaE maybe 2 nodes below has to be default:dirt
22:59 VanessaE so:
22:59 VanessaE L
22:59 VanessaE W
22:59 VanessaE W
22:59 VanessaE D
22:59 VanessaE L - waterlily, W = water, D = dirt
22:59 kaeza good to me
22:59 kaeza more depth will make them spawn again in open sea
23:00 kaeza and besides most "lakes" are that depth
23:00 kaeza deep*
23:02 Taoki VanessaE: It's ok. Need to log off soon as well for a bit so will join tomorrow perhaps
23:02 VanessaE Taoki: you're already logged off; I restarted the server ;)
23:02 jin_xi
23:02 jin_xi oops
23:03 marktraceur Raugh
23:03 marktraceur Factories don't check for enough resource, damn it
23:07 Taoki yeah. BBl in about an hour
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23:26 Doc22_ hey octu
23:26 Doc22_ are you on ipod?
23:27 Doc22_ Octupus^
23:27 Octupus Yes Doc22_
23:27 Doc22_ dang it
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23:29 kaeza hmmm
23:30 kaeza what drawtype do you use to draw a flat entity?
23:30 kaeza hey Neko
23:31 jin_xi upright_sprite
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23:31 kaeza jin_xi: thanks
23:33 marktraceur Anyone who already downloaded the factory mod, please update, major bugfix
23:34 kaeza marktracer: DL'ing and testing
23:34 kaeza marktraceur: ^
23:34 marktraceur kaeza: Best of luck!
23:34 jin_xi any screens up yet?
23:34 kaeza I always forget about tab completion
23:34 NekoGloop "factory"?
23:35 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3928 Disgusting.
23:36 NekoGloop And what's Adam talking about an unbreakable node for, the buildcraft quarries -and- the quarry-frames are both breakable.
23:39 marktraceur NekoGloop: What's your objection?
23:39 NekoGloop With what?
23:39 marktraceur Oh, sorry
23:39 marktraceur Thought your "Disgusting" was WRT factories
23:40 marktraceur NekoGloop: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804
23:40 NekoGloop I saw that.
23:40 NekoGloop This might interest you: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1578105-145forge-cogs-of-the-machine/
23:40 kaeza marktraceur: works perfectly now. Awesome job sir
23:41 marktraceur kaeza: I'm happy to hear that :)
23:41 marktraceur kaeza: I'm mostly happy I caught that bug so quickly
23:41 NekoGloop marktraceur: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1578105-145forge-cogs-of-the-machine/ might interest you.
23:41 kaeza NekoGloop: double post
23:41 VanessaE ok, i suppose I should look into this factory mod huh. :-)
23:42 marktraceur NekoGloop: I saw, but I'm not sure how useful it will be, since A) it's under a nonfree license and B) it's for a different game
23:42 NekoGloop kaeza: I didnt ping him the first time
23:42 NekoGloop marktraceur: just some general ideas.
23:42 kaeza NekoGloop: nvm
23:42 kaeza ok
23:42 marktraceur VanessaE: If you were bored and looking for something to make textures for.... ;0
23:42 marktraceur ;) gorram keyboard
23:42 NekoGloop Speaking of which, I should install this mod :P
23:43 marktraceur Also, anyone who has a suggestion as to how I can get a wishlist for the transactors without such a long loop....
23:43 marktraceur Merge requests *very* welcome
23:43 VanessaE marktraceur:  hah
23:43 NekoGloop I dont even know if that mod is compatible with the 50 I have installed :P
23:43 marktraceur (for both factories and furnaces, actually, because I loop through all of minetest.registered_items each time the ABM fires, which is obviously bad.
23:44 VanessaE *looks at forum post*
23:44 * marktraceur is going to go shower now, because he feels very disgusting
23:44 VanessaE marktraceur: brushed up against a windows box again? ;)
23:44 marktraceur VanessaE: Brushed up against two straight days of hacking, more like
23:45 VanessaE heh
23:45 VanessaE ok
23:45 NekoGloop Hey, if we finally get technic-pack level stuff, and someone gets off their ass and actually compiles some windows builds, I might play minetest again :P
23:49 kaeza marktraceur: I doesn't craft tools. Is this intentional?
23:49 kaeza It*
23:50 NekoGloop Remind me why no one makes windows builds>?
23:50 VanessaE sfan5 does
23:50 VanessaE and his are usually up-to-date
23:51 kaeza http://cheezburger.com/6823491072
23:51 VanessaE oldcoder does also I thin
23:51 VanessaE think*
23:52 * NekoGloop googles sfan5
23:52 * NekoGloop finds this: https://minebook.me/sfan5
23:52 NekoGloop WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING
23:52 VanessaE http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/
23:52 kaeza .g sfan5
23:52 MinetestBot kaeza: https://github.com/sfan5
23:53 kaeza NekoGloop: ^
23:53 VanessaE his 0.4.4 build is a little outdated though...
23:53 NekoGloop kaeza: ?
23:53 NekoGloop VanessaE: Remind me why the most used OS is not supported here?
23:53 kaeza .g NekoGloop
23:53 MinetestBot kaeza: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-11-01
23:53 NekoGloop kaeza: You arent going to find much outside of irc logs.
23:53 VanessaE NekoGloop: eh?  those are windows builds
23:54 NekoGloop VanessaE: You just said it's out of date.
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23:54 kaeza hey Taoki
23:54 Taoki hi
23:54 VanessaE NekoGloop: his latest build appears to be from yesterday.
23:55 VanessaE http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-566f7f6-win32.7z
23:55 VanessaE that was the last commit posted to github last night
23:56 VanessaE looking at the latest commits, the only thing you won't see are a few bug fixes and the smooth day/night transition.
23:57 NekoGloop 0.4.3 mods work with 0.4.4?
23:57 VanessaE yep, afaict.
23:58 NekoGloop My last version of minetest was 0.4.3-1db0334
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23:58 VanessaE out of the ~1400 items defined by my collection, none have been lost when moving to 0.4.4 (indeed, RBA's unified inventory needs 0.4.4-dev from around the middle of the day yesterday or newer)
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23:59 NekoGloop will there be a better inventory_plus then

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