| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
kaeza |
s/cache/buffer/ |
| 00:00 |
mauvebic |
you need a bot that reads the channel |
| 00:01 |
kaeza |
I'm using luasockets+LuaIRC |
| 00:01 |
Uberi|Busy |
luasockets works with MT lua? |
| 00:01 |
mauvebic |
c55 said it should |
| 00:01 |
kaeza |
according to c55 it does |
| 00:02 |
mauvebic |
which would be cool i could skip the python step of my signs lol |
| 00:02 |
Kacey|busy |
we need hand held maps |
| 00:03 |
mauvebic |
impossibru |
| 00:03 |
Uberi|Busy |
someone made that mod already, Kacey|busy |
| 00:03 |
Uberi|Busy |
needs mtmapper though |
| 00:03 |
mauvebic |
you still need to restart |
| 00:03 |
Uberi|Busy |
yeah |
| 00:03 |
Uberi|Busy |
better than nothing though |
| 00:04 |
mauvebic |
yeah but |
| 00:04 |
mauvebic |
if i were any good at c++ id find a way to load textures dynamically after launch, but i suck lol |
| 00:04 |
* Uberi|Busy |
can't wait for 0.4.4 release next week |
| 00:04 |
mauvebic |
isnt it already out? |
| 00:04 |
kaeza |
Maybe the map mod can be tweajed to use the C++ port or minetestmapper |
| 00:04 |
mauvebic |
yep, i have it |
| 00:05 |
kaeza |
Uberi|Busy: it's out already |
| 00:05 |
mauvebic |
kaeza doesnt matter which mapper you execute, you cant use the resulting file w/o restart |
| 00:05 |
kaeza |
yes |
| 00:05 |
Uberi|Busy |
kaeza: official release with builds, I mean :) |
| 00:05 |
kaeza |
but it's faster than the python version |
| 00:05 |
Uberi|Busy |
much faster |
| 00:05 |
kaeza |
Uberi|Busy: oh |
| 00:06 |
mauvebic |
well weather i restart in 30 seconds or 15 minutes doesn't matter to me, id rather skip that step lol |
| 00:06 |
Kacey|busy |
we need animated players now |
| 00:06 |
kaeza |
maybe celeron55 can integrate it somehow into the codebase? |
| 00:07 |
Uberi|Busy |
Kacey|busy: you'll have it next week |
| 00:07 |
kaeza |
celeron55_: PING |
| 00:08 |
mauvebic |
i thought other people were doing the 3d player stuff? |
| 00:08 |
kaeza |
0.4.4 has 3D players |
| 00:08 |
kaeza |
animated and all |
| 00:08 |
Uberi|Busy |
yeah but Taoki's version is also accessible from the modding API |
| 00:08 |
Kacey|busy |
he puts their mod into the default folder/game |
| 00:08 |
mauvebic |
do they hold the stuff theyre holding? :-) |
| 00:08 |
kaeza |
not yet |
| 00:08 |
Uberi|Busy |
yep |
| 00:08 |
mauvebic |
umm |
| 00:08 |
Uberi|Busy |
:P |
| 00:09 |
mauvebic |
sweet for my guns mod |
| 00:09 |
mauvebic |
kickass textures anyhow |
| 00:09 |
Uberi|Busy |
oh that's going to be interesting |
| 00:09 |
mauvebic |
its out already |
| 00:09 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1143900835.jpg |
| 00:09 |
Kacey|busy |
is the final build out? |
| 00:09 |
mauvebic |
cool |
| 00:10 |
mauvebic |
i was thinking of redoing pilzadams /xyz's sign mod with higher res letter |
| 00:10 |
Uberi|Busy |
not yet Kacey|busy |
| 00:10 |
mauvebic |
*letters |
| 00:10 |
Uberi|Busy |
still a few fixes need to be made |
| 00:10 |
Kacey|busy |
<( |
| 00:10 |
Uberi|Busy |
especially automatic view distance stuff |
| 00:11 |
mauvebic |
cuz i cant read those signs without old people glasses lol |
| 00:11 |
Octupus |
any1 know hoe to make boots in MC |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: I already submitted higher-resolution letting, see the forum tghread |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
there's like 5 sizes in the zip file I posted. |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
thread* |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
but pilzadam didn't implement them. |
| 00:13 |
Uberi|Busy |
Octupus: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Boots#Boots |
| 00:13 |
mauvebic |
i made this python script that creates textures with ttf text |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
that should save you a lot of work |
| 00:13 |
mauvebic |
but its like mapper yo uneed restart |
| 00:13 |
Octupus |
thank you Uberi |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: I used bash + imagemagick :-) |
| 00:13 |
mauvebic |
though that gives me idea |
| 00:13 |
mauvebic |
could tweak the script to create letter sets from ttf fonts |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
that's what I did |
| 00:14 |
mauvebic |
sweet |
| 00:14 |
Uberi|Busy |
no problem :) |
| 00:14 |
mauvebic |
not critisizing their work, but icant read blocky fonts even on 24" screens lol |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: http://pastebin.com/LTquEp1a |
| 00:14 |
mauvebic |
a.... b.... the rests' in polish lol |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
I think that's the script i used |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
no wait |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
wrong one. |
| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
wrong computer anyhow |
| 00:16 |
kaeza |
F*CK this luasocket thing |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
here it is: http://pastebin.com/HNQVCY1F |
| 00:16 |
kaeza |
The makefile is done for a stone-age lua version |
| 00:16 |
Uberi|Busy |
not working? |
| 00:16 |
kaeza |
have to work that out |
| 00:16 |
mauvebic |
try python then |
| 00:16 |
mauvebic |
should be eay |
| 00:16 |
mauvebic |
< 20 line |
| 00:16 |
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| 00:16 |
Kacey|busy |
I WANT THE BUILD TO COME OUT ALREADY!!!!!! |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
in case anyone else can use it, that script ^^^^ generates fonts for thexyz's signs. |
| 00:17 |
kaeza |
Kacey|busy: patience is a virtue |
| 00:17 |
kaeza |
or compile yourself :) |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
Kacey|busy: feature freeze at the weekend. |
| 00:17 |
Uberi|Busy |
Kacey|busy: yes if you're on linux compiling is pretty easy |
| 00:17 |
mauvebic |
vanessae we need a signs addon that changes the fonts automat |
| 00:17 |
kaeza |
he's on windows jim |
| 00:17 |
Kacey|busy |
nope no linux on this computer |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
so it'll be out officially after that. |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: I already asked that of PilzAdam. |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
Kacey|busy: build it in windows then, |
| 00:18 |
Uberi|Busy |
use sfan5's builds? |
| 00:18 |
Uberi|Busy |
he has on with the 3d player patch |
| 00:18 |
Kacey|busy |
i need to know how to compile with MinGW |
| 00:18 |
Uberi|Busy |
* one |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-655bb52-win32.7z |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
very latest git ^^^^^^^ |
| 00:18 |
Uberi|Busy |
yeah that one |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
Kacey|busy: ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 00:19 |
Kacey|busy |
but that is 7zip |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
so? |
| 00:19 |
Uberi|Busy |
oh no |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
get a tool to unzip it. |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
it's a binary ready to run |
| 00:19 |
Kacey|busy |
i dont have 7zip |
| 00:19 |
Uberi|Busy |
Kacey|busy: 7zip.org |
| 00:19 |
Uberi|Busy |
it's free |
| 00:19 |
Kacey|busy |
uugh ok |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
GET A TOOL TO UNZIP IT |
| 00:19 |
Uberi|Busy |
and you should have 7zip anyways |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
JESUS H. F. CHRIST. |
| 00:19 |
Uberi|Busy |
it's absolutely invaluable for all your archiving needs |
| 00:19 |
leo_rockway |
7zip > * |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
I'm sorry, I have no sympathy for people being too lazy to download the appropriate tools to use their computers effectively. Especially when the tool in question comes from a known, reputable site. |
| 00:21 |
leo_rockway |
should I download 7zip or compile in Windows...? |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: no. bzip2 > * :-) |
| 00:21 |
leo_rockway |
tough choice |
| 00:21 |
khonkhortisan |
ark, 7-zip, etc |
| 00:21 |
Uberi|Busy |
and for goodness sake, get something other than Notepad for an editor |
| 00:21 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: well, I meant for Windows. |
| 00:21 |
leo_rockway |
7zip opens bzip2, doesn't it? |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: I think win unzip tools can handle bzip2 also |
| 00:21 |
kaeza |
Kacey|busy: don't ask. Just DL |
| 00:21 |
khonkhortisan |
box openers are generally safe |
| 00:21 |
Kacey|busy |
i would respond to that in a very negative way but she is an op |
| 00:22 |
khonkhortisan |
now we know how you'd act without an op around |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
Kacey|busy: which means you shouldn't respond like that even if there *weren't* an op around. |
| 00:23 |
Kacey|busy |
i can go on a rampage without an op |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
it's called basci human decency. |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
basic* |
| 00:23 |
kaeza |
this^ |
| 00:23 |
mauvebic |
on the klingon homeworld, zip archives unpack themselves at the mere sight of a klingon warrior |
| 00:23 |
Uberi|Busy |
:O |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: nononono, they unpack themselves at the mere MENTION of an approaching warrior :-) |
| 00:23 |
ecube |
who said my name |
| 00:24 |
kaeza |
FUCK THAT. Chuck Norris got Minetest compiled just by looking at the DL link |
| 00:24 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 00:24 |
Uberi|Busy |
hahaha |
| 00:24 |
mauvebic |
of course, my victory at the battle of Klach D'Kel Bracht is legendary |
| 00:24 |
jin_xi_ |
q'pla |
| 00:24 |
mauvebic |
:D |
| 00:25 |
kaeza |
I WISH THE MOST PAINFUL, HORRIBLE DEATH UPON THE DEVELOPER OF LUASOCKETS |
| 00:25 |
leo_rockway |
you can download 7zip from here: http://5z8.info/hackwebcam_t3m5tt_this_persons_account_has_been_hacked |
| 00:25 |
mauvebic |
dude try python |
| 00:26 |
Uberi|Busy |
kaeza: that seems a bit...harsh |
| 00:26 |
mauvebic |
easier sockets |
| 00:26 |
Uberi|Busy |
haha seems legit |
| 00:26 |
mauvebic |
just buy them a drink, no dinner, and there you go |
| 00:26 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: die in a fire painful? :-) |
| 00:26 |
Kacey|busy |
or mega explosion? |
| 00:26 |
kaeza |
DIE IN A FIRE WITH A BROOM UP HIS ASS |
| 00:26 |
Uberi|Busy |
TNT |
| 00:27 |
mauvebic |
we dont have brooms in mt |
| 00:27 |
Kacey|busy |
i was thinking more along the lines of MEGA NUKE!!!!!1!!!! |
| 00:28 |
mauvebic |
for a nuke to work we need fire that burns more than wood :-/ |
| 00:28 |
leo_rockway |
and this is the latest build from git for Windows: http://5z8.info/molotovcocktail_u7g3sg_racist-message-board |
| 00:28 |
mauvebic |
i made plasma fires that are supposed to stop at water,but they go underground to burn other continents lol |
| 00:28 |
leo_rockway |
no-virus guarantee |
| 00:28 |
Uberi|Busy |
hahaha |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: we do. It's called FREE SOFTWARE and cleans up the commercial infidels like MC |
| 00:28 |
Uberi|Busy |
shadyurl is the best |
| 00:29 |
leo_rockway |
indeed |
| 00:29 |
mauvebic |
wtf |
| 00:29 |
Uberi|Busy |
:O |
| 00:29 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Free software and commercial software aren't in opposition |
| 00:29 |
leo_rockway |
there's free commercial software |
| 00:29 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: I know. J/K |
| 00:29 |
Uberi|Busy |
and commecial open source software |
| 00:29 |
leo_rockway |
and there's nonfree gratis software. |
| 00:29 |
mauvebic |
when did i mention any of that? lol |
| 00:30 |
mauvebic |
i use two diff CC licenses lol |
| 00:31 |
Kacey|busy |
stupid chrome using all of my memory |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
<ontopic> is there a way to disable the creative inventory from within another mod? Deleting the 'creative' mod works, but should not be expected of the player if at all possible. </ontopic> |
| 00:31 |
Kacey|busy |
lol |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: good question |
| 00:32 |
mauvebic |
set a new crative |
| 00:32 |
mauvebic |
*creative inventory |
| 00:32 |
Uberi|Busy |
VanessaE: delete the file using lua? :P |
| 00:32 |
mauvebic |
no |
| 00:33 |
mauvebic |
look at your creative mod |
| 00:33 |
mauvebic |
see where set_player_formspec (or something like that) and use that command to set a new formspec |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: and BTW don't want to use python because I don't want MT users to install it. Remember Python is not default on Windows? |
| 00:33 |
mauvebic |
alot of stuff doesn't work on windows lol |
| 00:34 |
* kaeza |
is thinking about OpenOffice |
| 00:34 |
mauvebic |
theyre best version was 98SE |
| 00:34 |
mauvebic |
*their |
| 00:34 |
kaeza |
AWWWWW YEAAAAH |
| 00:34 |
mauvebic |
feel old yet? lol |
| 00:34 |
kaeza |
I had 98SE until I switched to linux |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
Uberi|Busy: I mean without removing anything from the user's install - just disable the creative inventory while another mod (a replacement) is installed. |
| 00:34 |
kaeza |
that was about four years ago |
| 00:35 |
mauvebic |
you dont have to remove anything vanessae, just change the formspec until you're ready to reload the original one or another (as you fancy) |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
| 00:35 |
mauvebic |
store the formspec in a tmp var if you must and reload it later |
| 00:36 |
Uberi|Busy |
ah clever |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 00:36 |
mauvebic |
creative inv reads the inventory formspec to know what page it's on, so you can use that to copy the formspec |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
well reloading it will never be necessary |
| 00:36 |
* kaeza |
is hacking |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: you hacker, you. |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 00:36 |
* Kacey|busy |
is hacking kaeza |
| 00:37 |
Octupus |
i am having a problem with my dns can any1 help me out |
| 00:37 |
Kacey|busy |
nope lol |
| 00:37 |
mauvebic |
my biggest problem is integrating bookmarks and multinode into creative lol |
| 00:37 |
* kaeza |
dumped core because of Kacey|busy's hack |
| 00:37 |
* kaeza |
is rebooting |
| 00:37 |
* Kacey|busy |
is an ok hacker |
| 00:38 |
* kaeza |
says Welcome to Windows XP |
| 00:38 |
mauvebic |
i want creative stacks to be 1000, but for the multinode selector (detached) i want just 1x of the node lol |
| 00:38 |
* kaeza |
is rebooting again |
| 00:38 |
* kaeza |
syas welcome to Ubuntu |
| 00:38 |
Uberi|Busy |
:O |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
that's better |
| 00:38 |
Octupus |
i cant surf the internet can any1 help me > |
| 00:39 |
Uberi|Busy |
maybe the internet is having a bad day |
| 00:39 |
Uberi|Busy |
have you tried talking to it? |
| 00:39 |
kaeza |
Octupus: Can't surf the internet? how are you on IRC? |
| 00:39 |
kaeza |
Uberi|Busy: lol |
| 00:39 |
Octupus |
i have internet |
| 00:39 |
mauvebic |
i still havent removed the dead drive from ye olde tower, it makes R2D2 noises when i start it up llol |
| 00:39 |
Octupus |
but i cant go to google |
| 00:39 |
Kacey|busy |
there is such thing as irc clients |
| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
Octupus: change your DNS to point to 8.8.8.8 or 4.2.2.5 |
| 00:39 |
Octupus |
and other pages |
| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
those are reliable, fast DNS servers. |
| 00:39 |
mauvebic |
8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4 |
| 00:39 |
kaeza |
IRC = Internet Relay Chat |
| 00:39 |
mauvebic |
googles' |
| 00:39 |
Uberi|Busy |
or 8.8.4.4 for the backup google DNS server |
| 00:39 |
Octupus |
VanessaE,how do i do that |
| 00:40 |
kaeza |
i.e: it needs internet |
| 00:40 |
mauvebic |
network manager |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
Octupus: beats me, I don't understand windows :-) |
| 00:40 |
Octupus |
XD |
| 00:40 |
Octupus |
thank you for the help though |
| 00:40 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: no one does |
| 00:40 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 00:40 |
mauvebic |
right click your connection icon, you should have settings |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 00:40 |
mauvebic |
one of those settings will be a field where you enter DNS server addresses |
| 00:41 |
mauvebic |
my ISP had bad DNS adresses for 6 months so i had to figure this stuff out lol |
| 00:42 |
leo_rockway |
4.2.2.1-6 \o/ |
| 00:42 |
kaeza |
use OpenDNS? |
| 00:42 |
leo_rockway |
4.2.2.2-6* \o/ |
| 00:42 |
mauvebic |
them? no lol |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: there's more than .4 and .5? |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
didn't know that. |
| 00:42 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: from 2 to 6 |
| 00:42 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: http://www.tummy.com/Community/Articles/famous-dns-server/ |
| 00:43 |
leo_rockway |
oh, apparently it is 1-6 |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
ice |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
nice* |
| 00:43 |
* kaeza |
is playing with 8 instances of MT and it's borking the comp.... |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
so close one of them :) |
| 00:44 |
Uberi|Busy |
or 7 of them |
| 00:44 |
kaeza |
:foreveralone: |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
Uberi|Busy: I routinely run two at a time, occasionally 3. |
| 00:44 |
Uberi|Busy |
really? whatever for? |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
Uberi|Busy: testing. (and are you really busy or what?) |
| 00:45 |
kaeza |
that means I'm playing with myself right? (left to open interpretation) |
| 00:45 |
leo_rockway |
I ran 2 the other day to tests the 3D skins. I put a kettle with ice cubes next to my laptop and after a few minutes I used that water for my tea... |
| 00:45 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: lol |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
Uberi|Busy: I would have one open for playing normally, then fire up a second and even a third to test something, such as seeing myself in the game from another user's perspective, or testing another branch of the engine as I was the other night. |
| 00:45 |
Uberi|Busy |
man I've got so many things on my todo list it doesn't fit on two screens |
| 00:46 |
mauvebic |
thank god i have two screens lol |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
G*d yes |
| 00:46 |
leo_rockway |
my todo list is short, but broad |
| 00:46 |
leo_rockway |
things like "translate this whole book" |
| 00:46 |
mauvebic |
one has MT, gedit, gedit, thunar |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
I just can't get anything done with one screen. it feels so..cramped |
| 00:46 |
Uberi|Busy |
and here I am coding block durability for the TNT mod while I should be doing other things |
| 00:46 |
mauvebic |
the other chromium, vlc and music |
| 00:47 |
kaeza |
you guys use 1600x1200 (or more) and feel cramped? |
| 00:47 |
Uberi|Busy |
and what is this? why did I make a piston airship? I've got work to do! |
| 00:47 |
kaeza |
I can use only 1024x768 :( |
| 00:47 |
mauvebic |
mines 1900x something |
| 00:47 |
Uberi|Busy |
you can never go back after using 2 screens |
| 00:47 |
mauvebic |
1920x1080 |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
just a pair of 1280x1024 panels here. modest setup as monitors go. |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
Uberi|Busy: piston airship? |
| 00:48 |
mauvebic |
both screens |
| 00:48 |
mauvebic |
one is LED though anf gives me headaches |
| 00:48 |
Uberi|Busy |
kaeza: yeah, 16 block long airship, self contained, propelled through the air by pistons |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
pics? |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
or better: IP? |
| 00:48 |
Uberi|Busy |
sure, gimme a moment |
| 00:50 |
mauvebic |
is jordach on? |
| 00:51 |
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| 00:51 |
Uberi|Busy |
kaeza: http://imgur.com/KV9Dm |
| 00:51 |
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| 00:52 |
Uberi|Busy |
I'm going to post this on the forums once it can fly over enemy territory in the night and drop lit TNT on their bases |
| 00:52 |
leo_rockway |
MT would make a great RTS game |
| 00:52 |
leo_rockway |
kind of like Tremulous... |
| 00:53 |
Uberi|Busy |
but lava works quite well at this point too |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
Uberi|Busy: cool :) |
| 00:53 |
* Uberi|Busy |
has a brand new shiny mesecon world now :P |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
Uberi|Busy: next step: VTOL |
| 00:53 |
Uberi|Busy |
:O |
| 00:54 |
khonkhortisan |
late-posting, 1440x900 here |
| 00:54 |
Uberi|Busy |
current piston mechanics make that impossible, but I did make a loading dock today in another world |
| 00:54 |
Uberi|Busy |
which reminds me, I need to import that into this world |
| 00:56 |
kaeza |
Is that auto-propelled? Does it use a button/switch? |
| 00:56 |
Dogzilla131 |
why to every sever disable tnt? |
| 00:56 |
kaeza |
It's cool to see use of mesecons in such confined spaces |
| 00:57 |
kaeza |
I mean with the bad tendency of mesecons to stick to devices you don't mean to |
| 00:57 |
kaeza |
Dogzilla131: what? |
| 00:57 |
Uberi|Busy |
not quite full auto, kaeza |
| 00:58 |
Uberi|Busy |
takes 4 actions to move 1 block at the moment, actually |
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| 00:58 |
Uberi|Busy |
I can get it down to 2 but it makes the server laggy |
| 00:59 |
kaeza |
hmmm... good point |
| 00:59 |
kaeza |
mesecons seem to lag server a lot on some situations |
| 01:00 |
Uberi|Busy |
hmm but the 2 action move needs precision timing |
| 01:00 |
Uberi|Busy |
plus you risk falling off the ship |
| 01:01 |
Octupus_ |
thanks mauvebic i got it to work thanks :D |
| 01:01 |
mauvebic |
got what to work? lol |
| 01:02 |
kaeza |
delayers are not exactly precise, and microcontrollers are a PITA |
| 01:02 |
mauvebic |
irc/lua? |
| 01:02 |
kaeza |
working on it |
| 01:03 |
Uberi|Busy |
nah microcontrollers are great |
| 01:03 |
Uberi|Busy |
but pistons lose their metadata |
| 01:03 |
Uberi|Busy |
I was planning to fix this today but didn't get around to it |
| 01:04 |
mauvebic |
why do they lose their metadata? |
| 01:05 |
Uberi|Busy |
well it's being moved |
| 01:05 |
Uberi|Busy |
so it gets dug and readded |
| 01:05 |
mauvebic |
local metab = fields_to_table |
| 01:05 |
kaeza |
anyone know which lua version does MT use? 5.1 or 5.2? |
| 01:05 |
mauvebic |
just use fields_to_table() ? |
| 01:06 |
Uberi|Busy |
mauvebic: of course meta:to_table and from_table |
| 01:06 |
Uberi|Busy |
it's quite simple but then we need to rework the mvps_stoppers system |
| 01:06 |
kaeza |
Uberi|Busy: yeah micros are great, but getting them to work correctly using after() is a PITA |
| 01:06 |
Uberi|Busy |
I'm thinking pistons can push all level 0 nodes |
| 01:06 |
Uberi|Busy |
kaeza: oh yeah that's true |
| 01:07 |
mauvebic |
can set a direction/velocity on players? |
| 01:09 |
mauvebic |
it would be cool if... you set a property for nodes that propels players/entities in any given direction (good for subways) |
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| 01:11 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: the trampoline mod may be a good source of info for that |
| 01:11 |
kaeza |
something similar |
| 01:11 |
mauvebic |
well if it uses teleport i can already do that |
| 01:11 |
Uberi|Busy |
nah the trampoline mod uses the special groups |
| 01:12 |
kaeza |
but it doesn't use teleport does it? |
| 01:13 |
Uberi|Busy |
nope |
| 01:13 |
mauvebic |
naw i want to move players like, you move entities |
| 01:13 |
mauvebic |
like you set a rail underground, and when you step on it, you advance along its path |
| 01:13 |
kaeza |
so it's just what mauvebic wants? |
| 01:13 |
mauvebic |
i did elevators in nbu, but its blind-guessing the coordinates |
| 01:14 |
mauvebic |
kaeza any kind of player motion would be cool |
| 01:15 |
kaeza |
lemme see |
| 01:15 |
mauvebic |
im talking smooth motion, not teleport +1 every node lol |
| 01:16 |
Octupus_ |
some1 shud make a mod for (griefiing servers) that another person can access there chest |
| 01:16 |
kaeza |
Uberi|Busy: yes trampoline uses special groups |
| 01:16 |
kaeza |
"bouncy" |
| 01:17 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: Is there an api function to set accel/direction of a player? |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
dunno, haven't looked into it |
| 01:18 |
mauvebic |
not to my knowledge |
| 01:18 |
mauvebic |
hasnt worked when it ried anyhow |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
then again..... |
| 01:18 |
mauvebic |
which is weird players should be like lua entities (on the API level) |
| 01:18 |
kaeza |
how about using an attached entity |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
in 0.4.4 you can attach a player to an entity |
| 01:18 |
kaeza |
? |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
then move the entity and the player will follow |
| 01:18 |
mauvebic |
that could work |
| 01:18 |
Uberi|Busy |
yeah it's awesome |
| 01:18 |
kaeza |
my thoughts exactly |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
just make the entity infinitesimally small and transparent |
| 01:19 |
kaeza |
make the entity transparent |
| 01:19 |
Octupus_ |
VanessaE,is there a 4.4 that c55 built? |
| 01:19 |
kaeza |
lol you beat me to it :) |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
Octupus_: ZERO POINT FOUR POINT FOUR |
| 01:19 |
mauvebic |
is the doc lua api updated? |
| 01:19 |
Octupus_ |
o srry :) |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
and yes, http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-655bb52-win32.7z |
| 01:19 |
kaeza |
Octupus_: for linuX? |
| 01:19 |
Octupus_ |
no |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
^^^^ that is the very latest git for win32. |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
for linux, build it yerself :-) |
| 01:20 |
Octupus_ |
there is no 0.4.4 |
| 01:20 |
Octupus_ |
i dont see it |
| 01:21 |
OldCoder |
Back! |
| 01:21 |
kaeza |
Octupus_: just follow the link |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
Octupus_: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-655bb52-win32.7z |
| 01:21 |
Octupus_ |
Hi OldCoder |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
download it. |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
unzip |
| 01:21 |
kaeza |
hi OC |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
run |
| 01:21 |
Octupus_ |
oo that it sfan |
| 01:21 |
NakedFury |
OldCoder did you upgrade the servers to the new version? I only ask because i can't join server 30000 |
| 01:24 |
Octupus_ |
i wonder what version is the last one OC and M13 did |
| 01:25 |
dzho |
w/in 43 |
| 01:25 |
dzho |
f/ail |
| 01:25 |
kaeza |
dzho: wat |
| 01:25 |
dzho |
sorry |
| 01:26 |
dzho |
kaeza: it's a typo, nothing more |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: upgrade your client. 0.4.4 can connect to 0.4.3 servers since at least a day ago now. |
| 01:27 |
Dogzilla131 |
how to you put two images together to make one |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
(but you won't see 3d models) |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
I was just on one of his 0.4.3 servers earlier today and I have latest 0.4.4 git. |
| 01:28 |
Octupus_ |
MuadTralk NotObamaLand? |
| 01:28 |
NakedFury |
ok I will |
| 01:30 |
Muadtralk |
yes not obama land |
| 01:30 |
Muadtralk |
i gave up having it be my personal server so now not obama decides whats in it |
| 01:31 |
kaeza |
Dogzilla131: what do you mean? a mosaic? |
| 01:38 |
NakedFury |
ok connected now |
| 01:39 |
NakedFury |
thanks VanessaE |
| 01:41 |
kaeza |
<offtopic>celeron55 knows where to hide subtle references: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt search "Node definition (register_node)" and tell me the line number</offtopic> |
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| 01:46 |
Kacey|busy |
hello again |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
hey |
| 01:47 |
Kacey |
VanessaE dont youhave a 0.4.4 server? |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: sure I do. |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
| 01:47 |
OldCoder |
Has anybody seen M13 today? He has an inquiry from his VPS host |
| 01:47 |
OldCoder |
No sign of him? Thank you |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
no, sorry OC. |
| 01:48 |
OldCoder |
ty |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: I don't see it, it must be quite subtle. |
| 01:48 |
Kacey |
loading |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: It will take a while, 3-5 minutes seems typical. Lots of media to download. |
| 01:49 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 01:49 |
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| 01:49 |
Kacey |
checking the 3d player code |
| 01:49 |
kaeza |
just an off-topic rant VanessaE. BTW the line number is 1337 |
| 01:49 |
Kacey |
lolz |
| 01:49 |
AGGIES |
sup guys |
| 01:49 |
Kacey |
what is 1337 anyways? |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: talk about *subtle*. |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: 'leet speek for "elite". |
| 01:50 |
Kacey |
? |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
elite -> leet -> LEET -> 1337 |
| 01:50 |
Kacey |
ooh |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
it means a person is of particularly important, skilled, or valuable status within a particular domain. |
| 01:50 |
Kacey |
3% loaded |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
oh that's right, this server does not run the congestion_settings branch, so it'll be *really* slow. |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
expect 10-15 minutes to download. |
| 01:51 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 01:51 |
kaeza |
Kacey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet |
| 01:51 |
Kacey |
8% |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
kacey, you look like this: |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1239210256.png |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
(I see you before you finish logging in) |
| 01:52 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 01:52 |
Kacey |
ya i know |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
you'll see me standing in front of you when you are in. |
| 01:52 |
kaeza |
can I jump in? |
| 01:52 |
Kacey |
sure |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: sure, why not - if you can stand your bad wireless dragging you down :D |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
the server's 24-7 barring an IP address change or power loss. |
| 01:53 |
Kacey |
9% |
| 01:53 |
kaeza |
I'm about to go nuts over rewriting this luasocket thing for Lua 5.2 anyway |
| 01:54 |
AGGIES |
wat server was that pic from VanessaE |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
mine |
| 01:54 |
AGGIES |
wat is that |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
Aggies: everyone but me sees default textures - I have 256px HDX installed on my client so that's why it looks different. |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
Aggies: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
| 01:55 |
Kacey |
i will talk to you in-game k vanessa? |
| 01:55 |
Aggies |
4.3 or 4.4 |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: no. talk here or I may miss something |
| 01:55 |
Kacey |
0.4.4 |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
Aggies: neither. 0.4.4 ZERO POINT FOUR POINT FOUR!!!!! |
| 01:56 |
Aggies |
wat one is it |
| 01:56 |
Kacey |
ooh ok well i will be back in a few to load faster |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
damn it people this is not math. in a version number, the leading zero, if any, is important. |
| 01:56 |
Kacey |
nvm it is going fastish |
| 01:56 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: the connection is http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/large/obama-not-bad-l.png |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: you're downloading at ~20kB/sec right now, which is so so. |
| 01:57 |
Kacey |
fast for me |
| 01:57 |
Kacey |
64% |
| 01:57 |
Kacey |
76% |
| 01:58 |
Kacey |
85% |
| 01:58 |
Kacey |
90% |
| 01:58 |
Kacey |
95% |
| 01:59 |
Kacey |
loading textures now |
| 01:59 |
Kacey |
kaeza are you on? |
| 01:59 |
Kacey |
the server? |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
waiting 4 u |
| 01:59 |
Kacey |
k i want to see the animations in action |
| 02:01 |
Muadtralk |
hmmm |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: if you have a minecraft skin in mind you like to use, give me the web address and I will install it for you. |
| 02:04 |
Kacey |
k |
| 02:05 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: it seems the congestion setting branch is shiiiizness |
| 02:05 |
kaeza |
cause I'm getting massive lags on master |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
I know. |
| 02:06 |
kaeza |
Kacey: http://minecraft.novaskin.me/ |
| 02:07 |
leo_rockway |
speedy gonzales branch |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: do you want me to use that one? |
| 02:08 |
kaeza |
what? no |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
for Kacey. |
| 02:08 |
kaeza |
just pointing Kacey to a nice editor |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 02:09 |
leo_rockway |
player_texture didn't want to play nice with me |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
it works great for me :-) |
| 02:10 |
leo_rockway |
I kept seeing the green-vested man |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
sowwy :-) |
| 02:11 |
leo_rockway |
I usually play solo anyway |
| 02:11 |
leo_rockway |
I set up a minetest on my friend's server |
| 02:11 |
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| 02:11 |
leo_rockway |
but his connection seems slow to handle mt |
| 02:12 |
Aggies |
hey VanessaE can i have the download to sfan5s build |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
ok, I need to work in that congestion_setting branch. How do I do that without breaking anything in my current branch? |
| 02:12 |
leo_rockway |
Aggies: http://5z8.info/molotovcocktail_u7g3sg_racist-message-board |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
Aggies: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-655bb52-win32.7z |
| 02:13 |
leo_rockway |
I should probably stop using that, but I kept that one instead of the legit one o.o |
| 02:13 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: if you break it, can't you go back? isn't that the point of versioning? |
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| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
true. |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
bbiab |
| 02:17 |
Kacey |
oops broke it lol |
| 02:17 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I guess I need to reset that world. Lava will slow down CPU; true? |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
not really |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
fire will though |
| 02:17 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, oh? Seemed slow |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
just clean up the lava and it'll be fine |
| 02:17 |
OldCoder |
Lava is not that bad? |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
naw, lava's just hot water. |
| 02:17 |
OldCoder |
I will op people who are willing to do that |
| 02:17 |
OldCoder |
So it won't spread further? |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
no, it's probably reached max spread |
| 02:18 |
kaeza |
back |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
just clean up the lava sources and the flowing will abate on its own. |
| 02:18 |
kaeza |
yeah fire slows down a lot |
| 02:18 |
Kacey |
lol i broke my client |
| 02:19 |
kaeza |
BTW will TNT work on 0.4.4? |
| 02:19 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
| 02:19 |
* Muadtralk |
decides to check |
| 02:19 |
kaeza |
It bitched about indexing a number value on my 0.4.3 |
| 02:19 |
Muadtralk |
ten seconds later |
| 02:19 |
* Muadtralk |
BOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:20 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: lol |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: server restart coming in about 2 minutes - with congestion_setting branch in place |
| 02:20 |
Kacey |
if i make a skin for my player can you guys see it in server? |
| 02:20 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: +10000 |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
restarted |
| 02:21 |
Kacey |
k |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
congestion_setting branch in place no0w. |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
now* |
| 02:22 |
Kacey |
if i make a skin for my player can you guys see it in server? |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
yes if you give me the file. |
| 02:22 |
Kacey |
uugh |
| 02:22 |
Kacey |
i dont like uploading |
| 02:22 |
Muadtralk |
we need client side mods |
| 02:22 |
Kacey |
YES ^ |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: = cheating. |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
never gonna happen. |
| 02:22 |
Muadtralk |
or a different method of fetching the player skins |
| 02:22 |
Kacey |
yes |
| 02:23 |
Muadtralk |
like that thing rubenwardy was working on that i havent heard a lick of good news from |
| 02:23 |
Muadtralk |
:P |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
guys you can all re-sign-in btw |
| 02:24 |
Kacey |
working on a skin |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: is the sign-in time any better? |
| 02:24 |
Muadtralk |
not really |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
meh, well some people don't see an improvement. kaeza and jin_xi sure did though |
| 02:25 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 02:25 |
kaeza |
going in |
| 02:26 |
kaeza |
port 30000? |
| 02:26 |
leo_rockway |
if anybody wants to try tekk.com.ar:30000 |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 02:26 |
Kacey |
making an awesome skin |
| 02:26 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: voy a probar despues |
| 02:27 |
leo_rockway |
okay |
| 02:27 |
leo_rockway |
it goes really slow for me :S but another friend is logged in and works fine for him |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
aw, congestion_setting doesn't have calinou's nodebox fix :( |
| 02:29 |
kaeza |
can you please post IP again Vanessa? mine reset after testing locally (G*d someone make a bookmark frontend for MT) |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
| 02:29 |
kaeza |
k thanks! :) |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
np |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
kaeza2? |
| 02:31 |
kaeza |
what? |
| 02:31 |
kaeza |
oh typo sorry |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
that's how you signed in. |
| 02:31 |
kaeza |
reconnecting |
| 02:34 |
leo_rockway |
oh, how do I get to be admin of the server I'm running? |
| 02:34 |
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| 02:35 |
Kacey |
making an epic skin |
| 02:36 |
Kacey |
k now how do i upload |
| 02:37 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, 2D or 3D? |
| 02:37 |
Kacey |
3d |
| 02:37 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, would you like to use a copy of either Baby Face or Sigourney Weaver skin? |
| 02:37 |
leo_rockway |
how do I declare that my user is admin? o.o |
| 02:37 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, I have not done 3D yet |
| 02:37 |
OldCoder |
leo_rockway, in conf file |
| 02:38 |
OldCoder |
leo_rockway, put name = leoetc |
| 02:38 |
leo_rockway |
thanks =] |
| 02:38 |
OldCoder |
Where leoetc is a name |
| 02:38 |
leo_rockway |
I need to restart the server for that, right? |
| 02:38 |
OldCoder |
such as bullwinkle |
| 02:38 |
OldCoder |
or rocky |
| 02:38 |
OldCoder |
yes |
| 02:38 |
leo_rockway |
thank you |
| 02:38 |
Kacey |
what do i save it as? |
| 02:39 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, I have not done 3D yet. Others may know. |
| 02:39 |
Kacey |
nvm i got it |
| 02:40 |
kaeza |
who is sdzen? |
| 02:40 |
OldCoder |
Muad Tralk |
| 02:40 |
Kacey |
maudtralk |
| 02:41 |
kaeza |
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1241874944.png |
| 02:41 |
kaeza |
funny |
| 02:41 |
Kacey |
what is it? |
| 02:42 |
Kacey |
VanessaE no improvement in loading speed |
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| 02:42 |
kaeza |
It sems sdzen/Muadtralk was lagging |
| 02:43 |
Kacey |
i wonder.... |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: not everyone has been seeing an improvement |
| 02:43 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: server is up? |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
oh, leo's.. |
| 02:44 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 02:44 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: yes |
| 02:44 |
kaeza |
I'm playing on both |
| 02:44 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: do you feel mine laggy? it lags a lot for me |
| 02:44 |
kaeza |
not truly |
| 02:44 |
kaeza |
I'm just stuck in a cliff |
| 02:44 |
leo_rockway |
I'm on the other side of the world, though o.o |
| 02:44 |
Kacey |
checking something vanessa |
| 02:44 |
leo_rockway |
the server is in NC, I'm in Argentina |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 02:45 |
leo_rockway |
but I could connect to VanessaE's just fine yesterday |
| 02:45 |
Kacey |
maybe you can see my custome skin |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: try again? |
| 02:45 |
leo_rockway |
30000? |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: you have to give me the file or give me the address of it so I can install it. |
| 02:45 |
kaeza |
I'm in Montevideo, so not too far away :) |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: yeah |
| 02:45 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: then it must be my connection that sucks :S |
| 02:45 |
Kacey |
maybe it will work this way |
| 02:46 |
Kacey |
so before i upload it i can check |
| 02:46 |
leo_rockway |
3mbps down, 256kbps up |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
30M/3M here, so I should, in theory, be able to flood your connection. |
| 02:46 |
leo_rockway |
yup |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: we will not see your skin unless I install it to the server. Sorry. |
| 02:47 |
kaeza |
My network monitor is broken :( |
| 02:47 |
Kacey |
aaw i want to try anyway |
| 02:47 |
kaeza |
or maybe it's just downloading at 0bps :) |
| 02:47 |
Kacey |
lolz same here |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: then you'll have to try locally, there's no way for us to see your skin unless I install it. |
| 02:47 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: I gave you fly |
| 02:48 |
kaeza |
k |
| 02:48 |
Kacey |
well then i will upload it later |
| 02:48 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: k |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
ok, I think it's obvious we need to come up with a safe way for a user to upload a skin to the server |
| 02:55 |
Kacey |
uum i am lagging horribly |
| 02:56 |
Kacey |
very horribly |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
sowwy |
| 02:57 |
leo_rockway |
meh, I can't play like this |
| 02:57 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: I'll leave the server up for you. |
| 02:57 |
Kacey |
i will be on later k? |
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| 02:58 |
kaeza |
k |
| 02:58 |
kaeza |
thanks |
| 02:59 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: yes... an upload site... next thing you know is your server gets full of |) | ( |< pictures |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:01 |
Muadtralk |
of animal slaughter from cornernote yes? |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
server restarted with latest moreores, moreblocks, maptools, stairsplus |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
sorry for not warning :-) |
| 03:07 |
Muadtralk |
thats why everyone stopped moving |
| 03:07 |
Muadtralk |
XD |
| 03:07 |
Muadtralk |
i though i had froze time for a second |
| 03:08 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
oops, that broke something. |
| 03:08 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 03:08 |
kaeza |
server still not up |
| 03:08 |
kaeza |
what? |
| 03:08 |
kaeza |
what did it break? |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
stand by, I've caused a config problem. |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
gimme a bit to resolve it. |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
ok, we're back |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
forgot I have to use RBA's stairsplus mod because calinou's upstream has a bug, |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
dayum, I forgot how fast an admin pick cuts :-) |
| 03:20 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, would you like Baby Face or KikaRz avatar instead of Minetoons kid for yourself on my worlds? |
| 03:20 |
OldCoder |
Or working on one? |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: nah, I'll pick something later. |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
I'm kinda partial to the 3d models, which I have one I use for myself already |
| 03:23 |
Dogzilla131 |
What is the strongest sword? |
| 03:23 |
leo_rockway |
mese |
| 03:23 |
leo_rockway |
wait... there's no mese sword |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
mithril |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: get back in there :) |
| 03:24 |
Dogzilla131 |
thanks |
| 03:24 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: wrong nick. I had no privileges. |
| 03:25 |
leo_rockway |
I'm going back with the underscore |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
oops :-) |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
you didn't with the underscore either. fixed. |
| 03:27 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1244720333.jpg |
| 03:40 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, k |
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| 03:42 |
babyface1031 |
night everyone |
| 03:43 |
kaeza |
hey NekoGloop |
| 03:43 |
NekoGloop |
what do you want me for...? |
| 03:44 |
kaeza |
greetings :) |
| 03:45 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 03:45 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: Yes, there is a Mese sword |
| 03:45 |
leo_rockway |
oh, I thought only mese pick |
| 03:46 |
NekoGloop |
with a mod |
| 03:46 |
VanessaE |
mese sword is part of mese starter kit |
| 03:46 |
kaeza |
here: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1179 |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
ok guys, the server is updated. |
| 03:48 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0# |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
it has gloopores :-) |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
at least that should be something useful :-) |
| 03:52 |
NekoGloop |
i presume you had fun scraping it up? |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
I just went to the usual sources? |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
or maybe I already had a copy, I forget. |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
did you delete it or something? |
| 03:53 |
NekoGloop |
... did you completely miss the whole "Go away" thing with the forum posts? |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
or rather yes I did |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
got a copy of your last version somewhere? |
| 03:54 |
NekoGloop |
nope. |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
:( |
| 03:55 |
NekoGloop |
neither do i have 0.4.4 |
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
damn...and I don't have the version with the animated kalite torches either. |
| 03:56 |
NekoGloop |
never made one. |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
"Updated. Kalite torch is animated, kalite is less rare. Also Kalite torch is non-flammable" |
| 03:56 |
NekoGloop |
Was deleted 10 seconds after. |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
why? :( |
| 03:57 |
NekoGloop |
because no one wanted my mods, no need to clutter up the forums. |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
it isn't clutter, and obviously some of us wanted them. |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
you gotta give people time to find uses for them |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
but whatever :-/ |
| 03:57 |
NekoGloop |
I did. |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
2 1/2 months isn't long enough. |
| 03:58 |
NekoGloop |
The only use they got was from RealBadAngel: "Your code is shit", he got to ridicule someone else's code. |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
and here I was just about to add support for it to HDX too :( |
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| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
well at the very least, what was the last "official" version? |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
1.1? |
| 04:01 |
NekoGloop |
sure |
| 04:01 |
NekoGloop |
i dont remember. |
| 04:01 |
NekoGloop |
so it's whatever you call it. |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
wow, my copy is OLD |
| 04:02 |
NekoGloop |
Do realise i never bothered changing the version in the .lua |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
sigh |
| 04:03 |
VanessaE |
who pissed in your Cheerios? |
| 04:03 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: Everyone. |
| 04:04 |
VanessaE |
I mean in the last few days you've been just pissy as hell :( |
| 04:05 |
NekoGloop |
partly because of this damn community's stereotype of windows users: "stupid people who sit there and drool on the computer" |
| 04:05 |
VanessaE |
actually, "point and drool" isn't a windows reference, it's a "dumb users + dumbed-down interface" reference. |
| 04:06 |
VanessaE |
which exists in linux also |
| 04:06 |
VanessaE |
it's just that 75% of windows users are in that category for reasons I just fail to understand. |
| 04:07 |
kaeza |
I for myself love Windows 9X |
| 04:07 |
kaeza |
so you can count me on your group too |
| 04:07 |
kaeza |
These are just jokes man |
| 04:07 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQKNqGrYKTM |
| 04:07 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: but you aren't dumb, and win95 was not dumbed down compared to modern interfaces. |
| 04:08 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: And neither is NekoGloop |
| 04:08 |
VanessaE |
exactly. |
| 04:08 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: NGloop, Gloop, or Neko if not talking directly to me, please. |
| 04:09 |
kaeza |
ok Neko whatever :) |
| 04:09 |
NekoGloop |
and also the enforcement of some unknown set of "rules" |
| 04:11 |
kaeza |
what "rules"? |
| 04:11 |
NekoGloop |
I mean, at least #minecraft has a link to their rules in the topic. |
| 04:12 |
kaeza |
hell Neko. If I had one cent for every time someone tells me "YOU SUCK" I'd be rich by now |
| 04:13 |
kaeza |
Yeah, I suck at sucking, but I don't pay attention to any of those that don't like what I do |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
hrm, I need to tone down the quantity of flowers, junglegrass, and poison ivy somehow. |
| 04:17 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: How about disable new flowers when there are already a certain amount in an area? |
| 04:17 |
kaeza |
IDK if get_nodes_in_area("group:flowers") works though |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
I thought I already did that but apparently it either doesn't work, or the limiter I put into place doesn't work the first time after a server restart |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
- find_nodes_in_area(minp, maxp, nodenames) -> list of positions |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
^ nodenames: eg. {"ignore", "group:tree"} or "default:dirt" |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
so it should work. |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
ditto for fine_node_near() |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
find* |
| 04:19 |
kaeza |
yeah. sorry, typo :) |
| 04:19 |
kaeza |
heck I need a thorough read of lua_api.txt |
| 04:20 |
NekoGloop |
minecraft: vanilla can only run 10 mods max with thousands of problems, ForgeModLoader can read 48 with no hitches (except possibly block and item ID conflicts; there's an id resolver though :3) |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile, minetest can have as many as you want, up to the internal number-of-nodes limit :-) |
| 04:21 |
* VanessaE |
looks at flowers abms |
| 04:21 |
kaeza |
10 mods max!? wat |
| 04:21 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: yeah, MC is practically 10 mods max because otherwise the .jar is too large |
| 04:22 |
kaeza |
Java is known to eat up megs and megs of RAM too |
| 04:22 |
kaeza |
even for inane apps |
| 04:22 |
NekoGloop |
Optifine can help relieve graphics stress |
| 04:23 |
kaeza |
IDK much about MC, but does everything have to be in a single Jar? |
| 04:23 |
NekoGloop |
for mods, yes. Unless you have modloader or forge. |
| 04:25 |
kaeza |
Even with forge 48 mods seems like nothing when you can have 100 |
| 04:25 |
kaeza |
100+ mods in MT |
| 04:25 |
NekoGloop |
48 mods is just how many i have. |
| 04:25 |
NekoGloop |
It can probably support just as many as MT. |
| 04:26 |
kaeza |
and I thought MC was more advanced :) |
| 04:26 |
NekoGloop |
for everything but vanilla mod support |
| 04:26 |
NekoGloop |
Minecraft: The only game you need mods to have mods! |
| 04:26 |
kaeza |
lol MODception! |
| 04:28 |
kaeza |
that's where MT kicks in: just write a small `init.lua', add some textures and PRESTO! you have nice custom blocks when restarting the server |
| 04:28 |
NekoGloop |
now if only the good mods would fucking update them. |
| 04:29 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: there's an api for making forge mods in lua |
| 04:29 |
kaeza |
to load at runtime? |
| 04:30 |
NekoGloop |
dunno, havent messed with it yet |
| 04:30 |
kaeza |
interesting idea |
| 04:30 |
kaeza |
to load/unload mods on the fly |
| 04:31 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcTLJ692F70 this is all |
| 04:32 |
* VanessaE |
looks at the poisonivy lua....G*d, did I really write this pile of shit? |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 04:32 |
NekoGloop |
yes you did |
| 04:32 |
khonkhortisan |
you would've written it differently |
| 04:32 |
khonkhortisan |
had it been now |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
yeah, if done today it would have come out way different. |
| 04:33 |
kaeza |
and don't get me started on pipeworks :P |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
hey now, pipeworks is a masterpiece - a work of art! |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 04:34 |
NekoGloop |
and so is air sword. |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 04:35 |
* kaeza |
is opening pipeworks' init.lua: now entering the amazonian rainforest... Waiting for a guide... |
| 04:35 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: gl hf |
| 04:35 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: I'll need it |
| 04:36 |
kaeza |
LOL :) |
| 04:37 |
kaeza |
J/K V |
| 04:37 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 04:37 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syUbbC-994c This is good considering that the Vocaloid in use is Japanese. |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
I should combine junglegrass, flowers, and poison ivy into a single mod - "plantlife". |
| 04:38 |
kaeza |
I accidentaly my flash player so I can't youtube :( |
| 04:38 |
khonkhortisan |
just use variables at the top if someone wants to turn part of it off |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: use the HTML5 version. |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: agreed. |
| 04:39 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: Silly me! HTML5! |
| 04:39 |
kaeza |
you're right |
| 04:41 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: very good as you said (considering the Jap vocals) |
| 04:41 |
NekoGloop |
time to find about 20 more mods to cram into minecraft |
| 04:42 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: this is the Vocaloid performing in japanese: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmOeqLHwn5g |
| 04:45 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: it's a tad hard to find... "family friendly" songs where Len is the only one singing. |
| 04:45 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 04:46 |
NekoGloop |
... I take it you already knew that. :3 |
| 04:46 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: are you Japanese? |
| 04:46 |
NekoGloop |
No. |
| 04:46 |
kaeza |
oh but you like the culture |
| 04:46 |
NekoGloop |
I'm on the other side of the freakin planet. |
| 04:47 |
kaeza |
ok nvm |
| 04:47 |
kaeza |
bbiab |
| 04:49 |
kaeza |
back |
| 04:49 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: why? are you? |
| 04:49 |
kaeza |
me? no |
| 04:49 |
kaeza |
I'm Uruguayan |
| 04:49 |
NekoGloop |
ok. |
| 04:50 |
* NekoGloop |
just happens to know that country exists |
| 04:50 |
* kaeza |
was going to give a geography lesson but is glad about that |
| 04:51 |
NekoGloop |
as for where it is, cant remember atm. |
| 04:51 |
kaeza |
south america |
| 04:51 |
kaeza |
between Argentina and Brazil |
| 04:51 |
NekoGloop |
This is perhaps the best song with just Len singing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znir_s4Q9BA |
| 04:52 |
khonkhortisan |
the country is not called Urugruaia |
| 04:52 |
NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan: yeah, it's Uruguay (IIRC) |
| 04:52 |
khonkhortisan |
america american uruguaya uruguayan |
| 04:52 |
khonkhortisan |
the naming conventions differ |
| 04:53 |
NekoGloop |
ah, forgot an "a" |
| 04:54 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: Minecraft Forge has a neat little "Ore Dictionary as well" |
| 04:54 |
NekoGloop |
bah. |
| 04:54 |
NekoGloop |
move the cursor after finishing with the quotes... |
| 04:54 |
NekoGloop |
It makes it so that ores of the same name can accomplish the same things in each mod. So one mod's silver is equal to another's |
| 04:55 |
kaeza |
sorry, was watching the video |
| 04:55 |
NekoGloop |
... Well, that is assuming the ore dictionary is used properly. |
| 04:55 |
kaeza |
yes the name is Uruguay |
| 04:55 |
kaeza |
but the people that live there are "Uruguayans" (or "Uruguayos" in spanish) |
| 04:56 |
NekoGloop |
Metallurgy II doesnt use it properly for it's silver ingots (and just the ingots), thus making it so that i cant macerate the ore then smelt it into metallurgy II ingots. |
| 04:57 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: And now, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7bKqu6ZPbc |
| 04:57 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
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kaeza1 |
modem disconnected :( |
| 05:01 |
NekoGloop |
aw, you lost the awesomeness of sekihan :( |
| 05:02 |
kaeza1 |
:( |
| 05:02 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7bKqu6ZPbc |
| 05:02 |
NekoGloop |
Oh look! IT'S BACK! MAGIC |
| 05:03 |
NekoGloop |
Welp, I'm off. |
| 05:09 |
mrtux |
goodnight |
| 05:09 |
kaeza1 |
night tux |
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sokomine |
ah. hi |
| 05:14 |
OldCoder |
hi |
| 05:16 |
kaeza1 |
hey! http://cheezburger.com/6813436160 |
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kaeza1 |
wb |
| 05:17 |
kaeza1 |
hey sokomine |
| 05:17 |
sokomine |
hi :-) |
| 05:18 |
kaeza1 |
what's up? |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
G*D damn it. |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
hi sokomine. |
| 05:18 |
kaeza1 |
lol |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
my PC just suddenly hard-locked. |
| 05:18 |
kaeza1 |
I know that feel sis |
| 05:18 |
khonkhortisan |
If I worked in construction, I wouldn't build something based on mc |
| 05:18 |
sokomine |
vanessae: might have caught it from mine :-/ hard disk has errors |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
fucking lost 200 lines of source code >:-( |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
I hadn't had a chance to save it yet |
| 05:19 |
khonkhortisan |
Does it spread over irc? Am I already infected? |
| 05:19 |
sokomine |
oh :-( what did you write? |
| 05:19 |
kaeza |
Remeber: even Jesus saves :) |
| 05:19 |
sokomine |
perhaps.....who knows :-) |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: rewriting flowers+junglegrass+poisonivy |
| 05:19 |
sokomine |
ah! |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: yeah but moses invests. :-) |
| 05:19 |
sokomine |
how do you rewrite them? |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: gedit. |
| 05:20 |
sokomine |
no, i mean...with which goal/what are you changing |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
condense them into one, make them leaner and faster. |
| 05:20 |
sokomine |
that's always good |
| 05:20 |
kaeza |
<VanessaE>LOL U mad? |
| 05:20 |
kaeza |
trololol |
| 05:21 |
kaeza |
aaahh just a bit bored. That's it |
| 05:23 |
kaeza |
https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/11/23/r01CWw-780uc2NXiU2N1vw2.png |
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kaeza |
Well, that's it for today. Good night fellas. |
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kaeza |
sadly, I'm back |
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kaeza |
hello |
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kaeza |
What Lua version does MT use? 5.1 or 5.2? |
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kaeza |
anyone there? |
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VanessaE |
no :-) |
| 08:09 |
kaeza |
oh ok. I'm leaving then |
| 08:09 |
VanessaE |
nnnoooooooo |
| 08:09 |
kaeza |
:) |
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celeron55_ |
kaeza: 5.1 |
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kaeza |
It's been a bit lonely for the last two hours |
| 08:10 |
kaeza |
what? |
| 08:10 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 08:10 |
kaeza |
lua? |
| 08:11 |
kaeza |
thanks celeron55_! |
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celeron55_ |
it's quiet at these times because the western europeans and the americans are sleeping |
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kaeza |
I was tinkering with the IRC add-on for MT |
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kaeza |
But unfortunately it needs a major luasocket rewrite to work on 5.2 |
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celeron55_ |
hmm, actually eastern americans; i guess it's still evening in western america |
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celeron55_ |
oh, it's midnight in there |
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kaeza |
It's 6:10 AM here :) |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
3:13am here.. |
| 08:13 |
kaeza |
quite early or late depending on POV |
| 08:14 |
celeron55_ |
it's 10AM in here |
| 08:14 |
VanessaE |
ok, I could use an opinion or two... |
| 08:15 |
kaeza |
on what? |
| 08:16 |
VanessaE |
well before I go with that...is there a way to get some kind of preview of what minetest's perlin noise values will end up doing on a large scale? |
| 08:16 |
VanessaE |
local perlin = minetest.env:get_perlin(plantlife_seed, 3, 0.5, 150 ) |
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VanessaE |
local noise = perlin:get2d({x=p_top.x, y=p_top.z}) |
| 08:16 |
VanessaE |
this works fine, but is there some way to get a wide-scale view of what that will produce when I test for the value of "noise" to be, say, > 0.6 or so |
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kaeza |
hmmm... |
| 08:18 |
celeron55_ |
well, you could scale down the scale value and imagine what it'd look like when scaled up... |
| 08:19 |
kaeza |
what |
| 08:19 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: look at this screenshot: |
| 08:19 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1262407676.png |
| 08:19 |
VanessaE |
celeron55_: problem is I'm still very new at using perlin noise, so I am not entirely sure how the values work yet. |
| 08:20 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: that is an example patch of plants (with abundance, spawn rate, and so forth turned WAYYY up to get it to grow fast and thick) |
| 08:20 |
VanessaE |
the overall size of the patch...is it too big? |
| 08:20 |
kaeza |
I see |
| 08:21 |
kaeza |
maybe a bit too big |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
sounds like I should turn the scale value down then |
| 08:21 |
kaeza |
and maybe not random enough? |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
oh don't worry about the randomness, that's an artifact of running the ABM too fast (deliberately) |
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kaeza |
ok |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
(to a degree anyway) |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
ok, let's try it with a much smaller scale valyue |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
value |
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celeron55_ |
http://zoodhof.deviantart.com/art/Interactive-Perlin-Noise-334183190 |
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celeron55_ |
that gives some clue, but you can't raise the persistence as high as you might want to |
| 08:24 |
celeron55_ |
(input some highish number as the seed) |
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celeron55_ |
(yeah, it's 2d, but imagining it in 3d isn't very hard) |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
how does the width of this diagram translate to a minetest world? |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
1 pixel to a node? (looks closer to about 10:1) |
| 08:26 |
celeron55_ |
(umm... i mean, that is 1d, not 2d) |
| 08:26 |
celeron55_ |
it depends on what you input as the scale to minetest's perlin noise |
| 08:26 |
VanessaE |
yep I got that, I figured that was a typo/braino |
| 08:26 |
VanessaE |
I'm plugging in the same values into the website as I'm using in my code |
| 08:27 |
celeron55_ |
i am not actually sue what the scale is in that |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
scale is 20 right now |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
was 150 in the screenshot. |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
hm, good point, it isn't mentioned at all... |
| 08:28 |
VanessaE |
wait, doesn't the GIMP have a perlin noise generator? |
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* VanessaE |
looks |
| 08:28 |
celeron55_ |
yes it has |
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celeron55_ |
i guess i could make a browser based perlin noise generator |
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kaeza |
hmm... I'm completely clueless on this topic. Sorry |
| 08:31 |
celeron55_ |
i have most of the code for that lying around... |
| 08:37 |
VanessaE |
how's this distribution look? |
| 08:37 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1263489958.png |
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VanessaE |
(same area, I just erase the map file and let it re-generate anew) |
| 08:38 |
VanessaE |
dammit |
| 08:40 |
VanessaE |
those swaths of plantsbtw will be a mixture of flowers, jungle grass, and poison ivy (different seed for each class) once I copy the texture files back in |
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VanessaE |
(the random colors are easier to see from afar) |
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VanessaE |
hrm, gonna need a bigger difference between the seeds.. |
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Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53871#p53871 |
| 08:53 |
Calinou |
*answers "-1 Unity"* |
| 08:57 |
celeron55_ |
VanessaE: here:http://c55.me/random/2012-11/noisegen/ |
| 08:57 |
celeron55_ |
crap |
| 08:57 |
celeron55_ |
http://c55.me/random/2012-11/noisegen/ |
| 08:57 |
celeron55_ |
it's a quick hack but works |
| 08:57 |
VanessaE |
oh cool |
| 08:57 |
VanessaE |
thanks! |
| 08:57 |
celeron55_ |
hmm, i'll make seed a parameter and not random |
| 08:58 |
VanessaE |
good idea :-) |
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Calinou |
"intgeractive"? |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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celeron55_ |
now it works |
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Aqua |
hi |
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VanessaE |
no it don't :-) |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
wait there we go |
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celeron55_ |
how not? |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
"limit" was too low to see what I was doing. |
| 09:07 |
VanessaE |
no, that wasn't it. either I get a solid yellow or solid brown output |
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celeron55_ |
i made it crappily twice the dimensions |
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celeron55_ |
VanessaE: well, that is what your parameters give |
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celeron55_ |
not my problem |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
ok |
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celeron55_ |
hmm, this looks horrible |
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celeron55_ |
well, just set an empty seed and hammer the button to see it at "different locations" |
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celeron55_ |
i made it a bit larger |
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celeron55_ |
also, the noise generator seems buggy |
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celeron55_ |
well... good enough 8D |
| 09:15 |
VanessaE |
yeah, this helps a bunch :-) |
| 09:17 |
celeron55_ |
refresh the page, i added some info to the parameters |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
ah |
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celeron55_ |
i don't understand... sometimes the noise works, but more often it just makes weird squarely shapes |
| 09:21 |
VanessaE |
law of large numbers maybe? |
| 09:29 |
celeron55_ |
the squarely shapes are kind of corresponding to the parameters though |
| 09:30 |
celeron55_ |
actually very so |
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VanessaE |
there, I think I have something that works |
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Kacey |
ooh you are on |
| 09:40 |
VanessaE |
celeron55_: look like a decent distribution? http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1267248427.png |
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Kacey |
gonna ompload my skin |
| 09:40 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: upload it somewhere okay, but msg the address to me so I can get to it tomorrow, I'm kinda busy at the moment. |
| 09:40 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 09:41 |
Kacey |
what are you doing |
| 09:42 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: rewriting some of my mods - combining flowers + junglegrass + poison ivy into "plantlife". Should result in a lot less duplicated code and the abms themselves are already much faster than before. |
| 09:42 |
Kacey |
aah |
| 09:45 |
Kacey |
ompldr.org not working :( |
| 09:46 |
Kacey |
now i am getting off for the night |
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VanessaE |
yeah, distribution looks good. sizeable empty areas punctuated by moderately-sized patches of plantlife. |
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* VanessaE |
goes with those numbers. |
| 09:49 |
VanessaE |
(seed diffs = 123 and 133, octaves = 3, persistence = 0.2, scale = 25, limit = 0.6 in case you're curious |
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VanessaE |
) |
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VanessaE |
now to enable the growth code and see what it breaks :D |
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KikaRz |
Hi there! :D |
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KikaRz |
How are you today? |
| 10:05 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, Hi :D |
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OldCoder |
KikaRz, sleeping but thank you |
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KikaRz |
Oh! A Zombie... |
| 10:08 |
celeron55_ |
https://gist.github.com/4158578 |
| 10:11 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 10:11 |
VanessaE |
too tired to really appreciate that. I'll read tomorrow. |
| 10:11 |
VanessaE |
time for bed for me (about 4 hours ago actually). |
| 10:12 |
VanessaE |
for the growth code to a stable point, so I should be able to put this out for download tomorrow. |
| 10:12 |
VanessaE |
so, good night :-) |
| 10:12 |
VanessaE |
s/for/got/ |
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VanessaE |
*click* |
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Ragnar_ |
hi |
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Ragnar_ |
hi VanessaE! |
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Ragnar_ |
ok hi im back :D |
| 12:24 |
Ragnar_ |
hi :D |
| 12:24 |
Ragnar_ |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3892 |
| 12:24 |
Ragnar_ |
look and read |
| 12:26 |
Ragnar_ |
hey who other than VanessaE can code? |
| 12:27 |
Ragnar_ |
what? |
| 12:27 |
Ragnar_ |
woah lol :D |
| 12:27 |
Ragnar_ |
umm...Ano said, when he was in Glomies server, that he knows how to cheat aand get items... |
| 12:28 |
Ragnar_ |
maybe a month ago... |
| 12:28 |
Ragnar_ |
thats strange... |
| 12:28 |
Ragnar_ |
LOL |
| 12:29 |
Ragnar_ |
im watching a Minecraft Lets Play Vanilla, and somebody jumped down a cliff with 5x64 diamonds |
| 12:29 |
Ragnar_ |
yeah! |
| 12:29 |
Ragnar_ |
thats what he told me too! |
| 12:30 |
Ragnar_ |
and also... |
| 12:30 |
Ragnar_ |
i tried getting items in glomies with CheatEngine, but i couldnt... |
| 12:30 |
Ragnar_ |
so he didnt do it with that... |
| 12:31 |
Ragnar_ |
and...can you please not tell him that? |
| 12:31 |
Ragnar_ |
cause that would cause me to lose reliableness and also my server... |
| 12:32 |
Ragnar_ |
ok? |
| 12:32 |
Ragnar_ |
please |
| 12:34 |
Ragnar_ |
thanks :) |
| 12:34 |
Ragnar_ |
hey did you read the post already? |
| 12:37 |
Ragnar_ |
hey...hear this... |
| 12:37 |
Ragnar_ |
i have an idea for Minetest... |
| 12:37 |
Ragnar_ |
you ready? |
| 12:38 |
Ragnar_ |
triangles! |
| 12:38 |
Ragnar_ |
what if there were no cubes, only triangles... |
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Ragnar_ |
well bye... |
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NekoGloop |
Meow? |
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NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzqBo4fL50 |
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pdl |
è¯·é—®ä¸ºä»€ä¹ˆæ— æ³•ç¼–è¯‘ï¼Ÿ |
| 13:09 |
Ragnar_ |
hi |
| 13:10 |
pdl |
CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND. |
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pdl |
Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files: |
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NekoGloop |
Sorry, I listen to Japanese, not read it. |
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Ragnar_ |
hi neko :D |
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pdl |
hi |
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pdl |
i can't build it |
| 13:11 |
Ragnar_ |
hey who wants to join my development team? |
| 13:11 |
Ragnar_ |
for a project |
| 13:11 |
pdl |
why? |
| 13:11 |
NekoGloop |
Ragnar_: more information |
| 13:11 |
Ragnar_ |
[GAME] Dragon Quest |
| 13:11 |
pdl |
any chinese? |
| 13:11 |
Ragnar_ |
a game... |
| 13:11 |
Ragnar_ |
i need coders... |
| 13:11 |
Ragnar_ |
as in helpers... |
| 13:11 |
NekoGloop |
Well I read even less chinese. |
| 13:12 |
Ragnar_ |
what? |
| 13:12 |
Ragnar_ |
:S |
| 13:12 |
Ragnar_ |
xD |
| 13:13 |
Ragnar_ |
so who's in? |
| 13:13 |
NekoGloop |
There's a really awesome-looking minecraft mod, should i use it? http://calclavia.com/universalelectricity |
| 13:13 |
Ragnar_ |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3892 |
| 13:13 |
Ragnar_ |
wait... |
| 13:13 |
pdl |
c++? |
| 13:13 |
NekoGloop |
he means a minetest gamemode |
| 13:13 |
NekoGloop |
so lua |
| 13:14 |
Ragnar_ |
well, both... |
| 13:14 |
Ragnar_ |
cause someone made a model in C++ that works in minetest... |
| 13:15 |
Ragnar_ |
btw, the http://calclavia.com/universalelectricity is it a mod for minecraft or minetest? |
| 13:16 |
Ragnar_ |
i mean the mods there... |
| 13:16 |
NekoGloop |
minecraft |
| 13:17 |
Ragnar_ |
ow... |
| 13:17 |
Ragnar_ |
the Electric expansion looked like minecraft :D |
| 13:17 |
Ragnar_ |
but so are you in? |
| 13:17 |
NekoGloop |
nope |
| 13:17 |
Ragnar_ |
why not? |
| 13:17 |
Ragnar_ |
please |
| 13:17 |
NekoGloop |
because i suck at lua |
| 13:17 |
Ragnar_ |
ow... |
| 13:17 |
Ragnar_ |
how about textures? |
| 13:17 |
NekoGloop |
nope |
| 13:17 |
Ragnar_ |
i suck at both :D |
| 13:17 |
Ragnar_ |
textures and lua :D |
| 13:18 |
Ragnar_ |
but i wont give it up :D |
| 13:18 |
Ragnar_ |
i have alot to learn :D |
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pdl |
it looks like a good game |
| 13:20 |
Ragnar_ |
what does? |
| 13:21 |
Ragnar_ |
Dragon Quest? |
| 13:21 |
pdl |
where are u from? |
| 13:21 |
Ragnar_ |
me? |
| 13:21 |
Ragnar_ |
im from a galaxy far far away... |
| 13:21 |
pdl |
yes |
| 13:21 |
Ragnar_ |
Estonia |
| 13:21 |
Ragnar_ |
:D |
| 13:22 |
NekoGloop |
bah. cant run minecraft and chrome at the same time. bbiab |
| 13:22 |
pdl |
i'm from china |
| 13:22 |
Ragnar_ |
ow :D |
| 13:22 |
Ragnar_ |
hey pdl, can you make textures for my mod? |
| 13:22 |
pdl |
i think i can't |
| 13:22 |
pdl |
sorry |
| 13:25 |
Ragnar_ |
has somebody got skilles in making textures/coding in lua? |
| 13:26 |
Ragnar_ |
GAME! |
| 13:26 |
Ragnar_ |
ITS A GAME |
| 13:27 |
Ragnar_ |
[GAME] Dragon Quest |
| 13:27 |
Ragnar_ |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54128#p54128 |
| 13:27 |
Ragnar_ |
ok :D |
| 13:27 |
Ragnar_ |
maybe the player texture... |
| 13:27 |
Ragnar_ |
it has to be medieval, so maybe a knight or something... |
| 13:28 |
Ragnar_ |
umm...0.4.4 does it have a 3D player? |
| 13:29 |
Ragnar_ |
*thinking* i hope not... :( */thinking* |
| 13:29 |
Ragnar_ |
FUUUUUUU! |
| 13:29 |
Ragnar_ |
ow and btw, i cant play right now... |
| 13:30 |
Ragnar_ |
lag... |
| 13:30 |
Ragnar_ |
and you cant do multiply player textures... |
| 13:30 |
Ragnar_ |
like 1. Farmer, 2. Knight, 3. King etc... |
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Ragnar_ |
then i guess that still 0.4.3 |
| 13:30 |
Ragnar_ |
wait what?! |
| 13:30 |
Ragnar_ |
i can?! |
| 13:34 |
Ragnar_ |
i mean you can't use them like http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3587 |
| 13:34 |
Ragnar_ |
thats what i want to do :( |
| 13:38 |
Ragnar_ |
WHAT!!! |
| 13:38 |
Ragnar_ |
YAY |
| 13:38 |
Ragnar_ |
ask her how! |
| 13:43 |
Ragnar_ |
nss! |
| 13:43 |
Ragnar_ |
No Shit, Sherlock! |
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Ragnar_ |
hey can somebody help me? |
| 13:50 |
Ragnar_ |
im trying to reduce the gravity... |
| 13:50 |
Ragnar_ |
so the player wont practically fly when he/she jumps -.- |
| 13:51 |
Ragnar_ |
wait i think i got it :D |
| 13:51 |
Ragnar_ |
it was set to 10 blocks a jump, i set it to 2 blocks :D |
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Ragnar_ |
*REALISTIC* |
| 14:04 |
Ragnar_ |
hey can somebody help me or make themselves a dragon with nodeboxes? |
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RealBadAngel |
hello minetest |
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NekoGloop |
http://forum.industrial-craft.net/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=8375 My life is now complete |
| 14:38 |
NekoGloop |
bah. dropbox has issues with .jar's today -_- |
| 14:39 |
RealBadAngel |
hi NekoGloop, which game exactly youre playing? ;) |
| 14:39 |
NekoGloop |
minecraft. |
| 14:39 |
RealBadAngel |
so why youre here? |
| 14:40 |
RealBadAngel |
just asking |
| 14:40 |
NekoGloop |
because i got a response here. |
| 14:41 |
RealBadAngel |
from folks askin why youre here still? :) |
| 14:42 |
NekoGloop |
industrialcraft2 + universalelectricity + buildcraft. |
| 14:42 |
NekoGloop |
Now, if only eloramm would update :3 |
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RealBadAngel |
ive almost finished complete replacement for creative inventory |
| 14:43 |
NekoGloop |
bah. ID conflicts. fack. |
| 14:43 |
NekoGloop |
metallurgy doesnt like to play nice with other mods :( |
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RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.png |
| 14:46 |
NekoGloop |
lol iron door |
| 14:50 |
RealBadAngel |
mt got lately a few new features |
| 14:51 |
RealBadAngel |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1138564681.png |
| 14:51 |
RealBadAngel |
its me with chosen skin |
| 14:51 |
NekoGloop |
Assassin's Creed dude? |
| 14:51 |
NakedFury |
can you add a button to the new inventory that changes the time to 6000 without having to type /time 6000 |
| 14:53 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
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RealBadAngel |
daytime/night is aviable when in creative |
| 14:53 |
NekoGloop |
ergh, guess i have to remove metallurgy :( |
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RealBadAngel |
this is complete inventory overhaul |
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RealBadAngel |
i was havin TMI in mind when creating it |
| 14:54 |
NekoGloop |
pfft. do NEI. |
| 14:55 |
RealBadAngel |
both are siimilar |
| 14:55 |
NekoGloop |
but no recipes |
| 14:55 |
NakedFury |
cant do NEI before doing TMI |
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NakedFury |
he has to learn from TMI to then upgrade to NEI |
| 14:56 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont remember exactly now |
| 14:56 |
RealBadAngel |
but when i was playin ive picked one that come later |
| 14:56 |
RealBadAngel |
together with inventory_tweaks |
| 14:57 |
RealBadAngel |
now lookin a way to animate stuff in formspec |
| 14:58 |
RealBadAngel |
to represent groups in recipes |
| 14:58 |
RealBadAngel |
like mc does for example with different kinds of wood |
| 14:59 |
RealBadAngel |
and cycling item animation through possible ones |
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NekoGloop |
Meow. |
| 15:01 |
NakedFury |
well I saw that screenshot you provided and I am liking how it looks |
| 15:01 |
RealBadAngel |
wanna test it? |
| 15:02 |
RealBadAngel |
if so compile the tree: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest |
| 15:02 |
RealBadAngel |
get latest minetest_game |
| 15:03 |
RealBadAngel |
delete creative mod from it |
| 15:03 |
RealBadAngel |
and install this to /mods |
| 15:03 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.zip |
| 15:03 |
NakedFury |
I have latest 0.4.4 game |
| 15:03 |
NakedFury |
would that work? |
| 15:03 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 15:04 |
RealBadAngel |
it requires further changes |
| 15:04 |
NakedFury |
I cant compile |
| 15:04 |
RealBadAngel |
need windows one? |
| 15:05 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan is off |
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RealBadAngel |
sfan5|OFF, by any chance youre here? |
| 15:05 |
NakedFury |
I downloaded sfans version |
| 15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont he have built my tree |
| 15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
*think |
| 15:07 |
RealBadAngel |
i need to ask sfan5 to get his scripts to compile windows builds |
| 15:11 |
RealBadAngel |
NakedFury, before sfan will come test this: http://realbadangel.pl/technic_ambience.zip |
| 15:12 |
RealBadAngel |
it doesnt require other client |
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babyface1031 |
hi OldCoder |
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NekoGloop |
Ah, finally. The last of the ID conflicts |
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jin_xi_ |
hello all |
| 15:18 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 15:18 |
jin_xi_ |
your creative inv looks nice |
| 15:19 |
RealBadAngel |
test it |
| 15:19 |
RealBadAngel |
its workin awesome |
| 15:19 |
jin_xi_ |
cool, will do later |
| 15:20 |
RealBadAngel |
its not finished yet |
| 15:20 |
jin_xi_ |
im trying multinode atm, haven't fully got it yet ;) |
| 15:20 |
RealBadAngel |
i need to add craetive and fix some c++ glitches |
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RealBadAngel |
jin_xi_, check out my version of ambience |
| 15:21 |
jin_xi_ |
whats the difference (also i have recently removed ambience... too noisy) |
| 15:21 |
RealBadAngel |
music |
| 15:21 |
RealBadAngel |
there are Skaven's tracks, 9 of them |
| 15:23 |
jin_xi_ |
ok |
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NakedFury |
good to see minetest growing |
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RealBadAngel |
NakedFury, sfan is here, he will build win client for ya |
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OldCoder |
john_minetest, I am here yes |
| 16:19 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, same as Zeg9 world. I copied the files. |
| 16:19 |
OldCoder |
He has them. But which privs are you looking for? |
| 16:19 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
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OldCoder |
"all privs". Hold on |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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marktraceur |
PilzAdam: Hello! |
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jin_xi |
hi adam |
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jin_xi |
hmm, which mod has slabs/half blocks? |
| 16:37 |
PilzAdam |
the default stairs mod? |
| 16:38 |
jin_xi |
ok |
| 16:38 |
jin_xi |
ah, thanks |
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Mika_R |
OldCoder, how does it look with Europe vps? |
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OldCoder |
Mika_R, Hi |
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OldCoder |
Mika_R, current one is alive. A new one may appear in December. |
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Mika_R |
ok |
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OldCoder |
16:30:29: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: |
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OldCoder |
ServerEnvironment::loadMeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found |
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OldCoder |
That started abruptly 20 minutes ago on 30004 |
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OldCoder |
No special crashes or changes before. Any thoughts? |
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PilzAdam |
worlds/[worldname]/env_meta.txt isnt there or emtpy |
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
ty |
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
Happening to all the worlds! |
| 16:51 |
PilzAdam |
here is some content to restore them: |
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PilzAdam |
game_time = 3335 |
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PilzAdam |
time_of_day = 5520 |
| 16:51 |
PilzAdam |
EnvArgsEnd |
| 16:52 |
OldCoder |
Why would they all go to zero |
| 16:52 |
OldCoder |
Do you suppose? |
| 16:52 |
OldCoder |
Could shutdown do it? |
| 16:52 |
PilzAdam |
this happens randomly |
| 16:52 |
OldCoder |
Ah! |
| 16:52 |
OldCoder |
Then I can add code to prevent it |
| 16:52 |
OldCoder |
To the server framework |
| 16:52 |
OldCoder |
PilzAdam, sometimes the file gets reset? Is that it? |
| 16:53 |
PilzAdam |
this error is thrown if the engine cant find the file or when its empty |
| 16:53 |
OldCoder |
I know |
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OldCoder |
PilzAdam, sometimes the file gets reset? Is that it? |
| 16:53 |
OldCoder |
reset to zero? |
| 16:53 |
PilzAdam |
the reason why this happens is unknown |
| 16:53 |
OldCoder |
That is fine |
| 16:53 |
OldCoder |
I can fix it permanently |
| 16:53 |
OldCoder |
In the server framework right now |
| 16:53 |
OldCoder |
The question is this: |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
PilzAdam, sometimes the file gets reset randomly to zero length? Is that it? |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
or some I/O bug |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
Is the preceding correct? |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
where it cleans the file and never finishes |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
Sometimes the file gets reset randomly to zero length? Is that it? |
| 16:54 |
PilzAdam |
OldCoder, can be |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
Fixing it |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
Permanently |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
Worlds will be down for a few minutes |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
lol? |
| 16:54 |
PilzAdam |
pull request it upstream if it works |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
It is a kludge |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
In my framework; not in the code |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
when you said permanently, it sounded like a mobster |
| 16:55 |
OldCoder |
While the worlds are down |
| 16:55 |
OldCoder |
Suggest new mods patches or updates |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
hes going to dissapear....permanently. |
| 16:55 |
OldCoder |
Now is the time to do this |
| 16:55 |
OldCoder |
yes |
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OldCoder |
If anybody wishes more mods patches updates now is the time to suggest them |
| 16:59 |
PilzAdam |
Is there a server that just run the current upstream minetest_game without additional mods? |
| 17:00 |
iqualfragile |
in anybody in here willing to help me with a bash-scripting-problem? i just dont get it… |
| 17:01 |
OldCoder |
iqualfragile, Yes |
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OldCoder |
after I get the worlds up |
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ruskie |
iqualfragile, what's the prob |
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celeron55 |
oh god hell no |
| 17:15 |
ruskie |
? |
| 17:15 |
celeron55 |
taoki modified the message ids of the generic object commands |
| 17:16 |
celeron55 |
incompatible version to current master upcoming |
| 17:16 |
celeron55 |
why does somebody do this... this is a god damn network protocol |
| 17:18 |
OldCoder |
Worlds are back up |
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celeron55 |
urrrrgh |
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celeron55 |
this ObjectProperties thing is a total failure in terms of making version compatibility reasonable |
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* celeron55 |
is making 0.4.3 able to connect to 0.4.4, just for the sake of it, and because 0.4 must have better inter-version compatibility in the future |
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Jordach |
celeron55 - chill out, please |
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celeron55 |
i 100% hate it when previous decisions make current things painful |
| 17:32 |
Jordach |
celeron55 - thats open source software for you |
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celeron55 |
Jordach: not really; that's unexperienced development |
| 17:36 |
Jordach |
celeron55 - i do suggest we check _EVERY_ patch that comes into git |
| 17:36 |
celeron55 |
that is way too laborious |
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| 17:38 |
celeron55 |
especially as ObjectProperties was made by me, in a lazy mood i suspect |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
if things were done to check things that should not be touched, like mapgen, etc |
| 17:38 |
celeron55 |
i have made a tool that can check map format compatiiblity |
| 17:38 |
celeron55 |
it's the most important thing |
| 17:39 |
celeron55 |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest-worldtest/ |
| 17:39 |
FreeFull |
Damn laziness |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
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* sokomine |
hopes that both the very nice 3d-player and compatibility between diffrent versions work |
| 18:09 |
sokomine |
thank you for the game and for all the contributions. it is really fun to play |
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babyface1031 |
hi everyone :D |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
hey people, would it possible to convert the c++ parts into objective-c? |
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* Jordach |
turns up the electro house |
| 18:20 |
Taoki |
celeron55: Back. What's wrong, and what did I modify in the models code that's bad? |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
<celeron55> this ObjectProperties thing is a total failure in terms of making version compatibility reasonable |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
<celeron55> taoki modified the message ids of the generic object commands |
| 18:21 |
Taoki |
If you mean the extra messages, they were needed, and I thought it's common for new features to add them |
| 18:21 |
Taoki |
Ah... O you mean the values of some constant |
| 18:21 |
Taoki |
erm, |
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| 18:21 |
Taoki |
I think you mean the values of some constants for the gob commands, if I remember right |
| 18:22 |
Taoki |
I remember inserting one in the middle so they would be in a proper matching order. Didn't imagine anything being wrong with that. If you mean what I think then I remember. |
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PilzAdam |
hi j4i |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez - get the server up man! |
| 18:24 |
Taoki |
celeron55: But if it is, I did that to keep everything clean and sorted. I didn't think the order of the ID's would matter. Sorry for the trouble, I hope the problem can be resolved and reverted :( |
| 18:25 |
Taoki |
I'll remember not to mess with such again |
| 18:26 |
* VanessaE |
pokes sokomine, PilzAdam, taoki, and celeron55 ...just because. |
| 18:26 |
VanessaE |
hi all :-) |
| 18:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
When there is a 64 bit minetest for windows i will lol |
| 18:26 |
NekoGloop |
:( |
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| 18:26 |
* VanessaE |
pokes NekoGloop, jordan4ibanez, and jordan4ibanez also. just for because :D |
| 18:26 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
vanessaE, y u no poke me and NekoGloop |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE |
oh fuck, tab complete FAIL |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 18:27 |
* VanessaE |
pokes Jordach too :D |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
:D |
| 18:28 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, *back-poke* |
| 18:28 |
PilzAdam |
that sounds wrong... |
| 18:28 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 18:28 |
* NekoGloop |
slaps PilzAdam |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
s/*back-poke*/*pokes-back*/ |
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* jin_xi |
started his first building in mt |
| 18:29 |
PilzAdam |
thats better |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
Google trends is a part of google which you can use to see what people search at what times. |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
For Example "cheese" is searched the most in december |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
look at this: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=porn so funny |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
s/porn/minetest |
| 18:31 |
NekoGloop |
yes, we get that the human race is slowly declining |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Jordach&cmpt=q |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
meh http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=rubenwardy&cmpt=q |
| 18:33 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=gloopmaster&cmpt=q D: |
| 18:33 |
* Jordach |
is googled lots |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
it is percentage of highest value |
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bulletrulz |
hi |
| 18:33 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=neko&cmpt=q lol |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
lolol, minecraft is searched more in norway (c55's country) than minetest is |
| 18:34 |
rubenwardy |
this shows more people are getting stupid: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=google&cmpt=q |
| 18:34 |
bulletrulz |
Jordach, no shit its more populr |
| 18:35 |
bulletrulz |
does anyone play open arena? |
| 18:35 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, isnt c55's country finnland? |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
oh yea |
| 18:35 |
* Jordach |
derps |
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PilzAdam |
Norway isnt even in EU! |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
#woops |
| 18:36 |
bulletrulz |
LOL! |
| 18:36 |
* bulletrulz |
smack jordach |
| 18:36 |
bulletrulz |
get it right! |
| 18:38 |
bulletrulz |
openarena gotr 100 mbs done! C: |
| 18:40 |
rubenwardy |
mw ha ha ha |
| 18:41 |
bulletrulz |
yay! 200 mbs done :D |
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rubenwardy |
such an amazing website, great design: http://www.angelfire.com/super/badwebs/ |
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Sudi |
lol |
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Calinou |
Jordach: finland, not norway |
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celeron55 |
does anyone care to test some stuff i am going to push to upstream? |
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marktraceur |
celeron55: You *are* upstream! |
| 19:16 |
celeron55 |
it reverts the incompatibility caused by taoki and makes it possible for a server to support older clients, and makes use of that by supporting PROTOCOL_VERSION 13 (which is 0.4.3 at least) |
| 19:16 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: my laptop isn't |
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marktraceur |
:) |
| 19:17 |
celeron55 |
and doesn't support current 0.4.4 |
| 19:17 |
celeron55 |
and no whine about that please; if you want stable software, use stable - software cannot be developed so that it never breaks |
| 19:18 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: I wasn't going to whine, I understand what it means to run git master of a project |
| 19:18 |
celeron55 |
i didn't think you would |
| 19:18 |
celeron55 |
but i know some people will |
| 19:19 |
celeron55 |
i could even point at them but won't 8) |
| 19:19 |
celeron55 |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/043_support |
| 19:19 |
NakedFury |
its gonna break stuff? big deal. if I wanted stuff not breaking after every update i wouldnt be playing minetest or games in general |
| 19:20 |
NakedFury |
do what you have to do to and ignore the small stuff |
| 19:20 |
celeron55 |
anyway; if somebody wants to try that in case i didn't catch some bug, feel free to |
| 19:29 |
bulletrulz |
someone go on vaneesa es server |
| 19:29 |
Taoki |
celeron55: Back again. Glad it's fixed... sorry for the trouble, will remember not to mess those values again |
| 19:30 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: hi :) |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
hi :-) |
| 19:31 |
Taoki |
celeron55: I can gladly test the fix now, given I "contributed" to breaking it. What do you need tested? |
| 19:31 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, go on your server? |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: busy coding right now. |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
but you all can play all you like, just don't break anything important :D |
| 19:32 |
bulletrulz |
ok somebody COME ON THE SERVER |
| 19:33 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Is the fix c55 mentioned on your server? |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: no, I'm running the congestion_setting branch actually |
| 19:33 |
Taoki |
oh, ok |
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babyface1031 |
afk for a bit |
| 19:36 |
Taoki |
celeron55: Do you have a diff of that branch you linked, against latest master? Would be easier than setting up a new git remote now. Also, do I test it locally or on another server? |
| 19:40 |
thexyz |
Taoki: just `wget https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/archive/043_support.zip` if you are so lazy ^^ |
| 19:44 |
Taoki |
Compiling now and will test it after that |
| 19:44 |
Taoki |
Should I make a lotal server and connect 2 clients to it? |
| 19:44 |
Taoki |
Or connect with that to another server? |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
http://complexification.net/gallery/machines/substrate/ this is cool |
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Taoki |
celeron55, thexyz: I ran minetestserver locally and connected with two minetest clients, on the 043_support code. All works well and I see no bugs. Again... should I test anything else specifically, or can I gelete that zip? |
| 19:53 |
thexyz |
i guess that 043_support means you should be able to connect to 0.4.3 server |
| 19:53 |
Taoki |
ok. Anyone got a 0.4.3 server to try it out? |
| 19:54 |
Taoki |
I have a list of servers but don't know what each is running... most are GIT I assume |
| 19:54 |
Jordach |
Taoki - you want someone to host a stable server? |
| 19:54 |
Taoki |
Jordach: Just need a 0.4.3 server to connect to |
| 19:54 |
thexyz |
http://servers.minetest.ru/ |
| 19:54 |
* Jordach |
warms up the stable |
| 19:54 |
Taoki |
For a few seconds to make sure it works. Maybe with another player on it |
| 19:54 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 19:55 |
Taoki |
wazuclan.com:30000 Says 0.4.3 so I'll try it |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
217.43.25.92 : 30000 |
| 19:55 |
Taoki |
will try that too in a minute |
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Taoki |
connected on wazuclan well. I can tell it's 0.4.3 since it has no 3D players, still the old sprites |
| 19:56 |
Taoki |
there are many players and I see them walking around well and everything |
| 19:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
Taoki, can you give me a quick example of mounting an entity to a player? |
| 19:57 |
Taoki |
jordan4ibanez: See set_attach in the lua api documentation |
| 19:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
Thanks bro |
| 19:57 |
Taoki |
don't have one now sorry, the carts mod does |
| 19:58 |
Taoki |
Jordach: Your server isn't working |
| 19:58 |
Jordach |
weird, the other dat i think mito connected |
| 19:58 |
Jordach |
dayu |
| 19:58 |
Jordach |
day |
| 19:58 |
Jordach |
yes, he did using oc's client |
| 19:58 |
Taoki |
Anyway, I connected to a 0.4.3 server without problem |
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Taoki |
So I can confirm that branch has no bugs I can notice after a quick test. |
| 20:01 |
celeron55 |
the main feature of that is that you can connect a 0.4.3 *to* it |
| 20:02 |
Taoki |
ahhhh. Damn, I don't think I can host a server for others to connect to |
| 20:02 |
Taoki |
Mostly since I'm behind router now |
| 20:02 |
Taoki |
And I assume I need to hack into it and setup some port forwarding stuff |
| 20:02 |
celeron55 |
oh well, i did test that a bit |
| 20:03 |
Taoki |
Then I assume it should be good :) |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
Taoki - try finding the router gateway |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
it always points to the http settings |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
(or in most cases of belkins) |
| 20:03 |
Taoki |
Yeah, I have a username and pass noted down and can enter the router's settings page with it |
| 20:04 |
celeron55 |
hmm... |
| 20:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pW9fXGVw Lol i made it so you can make someone look like they're on fire |
| 20:05 |
celeron55 |
sounds useful |
| 20:06 |
* Jordach |
pumps up some electro house |
| 20:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
it would just need to get if someone was on fire, then spawn the fire entity attached to the player, and damage them while they were on fire until the fire burns out, or they jump into water |
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celeron55 |
well, that is upstream now |
| 20:09 |
celeron55 |
you'll have to create new windows builds for those who use them |
| 20:10 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: can you merge the congestion_setting branch also? It helps for some folks. |
| 20:11 |
celeron55 |
oh that |
| 20:12 |
Taoki |
celeron55: I tested the congestion branch with VanessaE 1-2 days ago. I can say it seems to help a bit |
| 20:12 |
VanessaE |
kaeza would agree with that |
| 20:12 |
Taoki |
The day before, I couldn't connect after 10 minutes, and the loading screen still showed 0% media. Once VanessaE had that branch, I could connect in 15 minutes, and there was progress with the stream after some seconds. Which is clearly a lot better |
| 20:13 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE: pushed that too |
| 20:13 |
VanessaE |
thanks! |
| 20:14 |
Taoki |
awesome |
| 20:16 |
rubenwardy |
bye |
| 20:16 |
rubenwardy |
gtg |
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| 20:17 |
NekoGloop |
most people say "gtg, bye" not "bye, gtg" |
| 20:17 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: If you can update your server to latest upstream, I'm doing so as well and connecting, to be sure all is fine |
| 20:17 |
VanessaE |
sure thing, gimme a sec. |
| 20:19 |
VanessaE |
building... |
| 20:19 |
sokomine |
yes, the anti-congestion-methods work on vanessas server. took considerably less time to connect (~3 minutes instead of ~30) |
| 20:20 |
VanessaE |
installing... |
| 20:21 |
sokomine |
taoki: how can models be generated? with blender? or is there a way to convert nodebox-entities? |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
blender |
| 20:21 |
Taoki |
Blender |
| 20:21 |
marktraceur |
Food processor |
| 20:21 |
Taoki |
Make a model, rig it, animate it on the timeline, then in Blender preferences enable the native DirectX mesh exporter and export to the x format |
| 20:21 |
VanessaE |
installed, server has been restarted. |
| 20:21 |
VanessaE |
go for it taoki. |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
gtg |
| 20:22 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 20:22 |
Taoki |
sokomine: See the player.blend included in minetest_game GIT for an example |
| 20:22 |
sokomine |
hm. i have no experience at all with blender :-( |
| 20:22 |
Taoki |
later |
| 20:22 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: connecting |
| 20:22 |
sokomine |
vanessa: is that https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/archive/043_support.zip now or another version? |
| 20:22 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Is your server up? It doesn't seem to find it and work |
| 20:22 |
sokomine |
i'd like to compile the right thing |
| 20:23 |
Taoki |
sokomine: That branch you linked is now in GIT |
| 20:23 |
sokomine |
but...the goal was to connect with older client versions? |
| 20:23 |
Taoki |
yeah |
| 20:23 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: Try your old 0.4.3 version (you will see only 2d sprites then), then try latest git from just now |
| 20:23 |
sokomine |
ok |
| 20:23 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
| 20:23 |
Taoki |
sokomine: Yes, try connecting with 0.4.3, that helps make sure it works |
| 20:23 |
Taoki |
Ah, 30000, I had you noted as 30001 |
| 20:24 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: you'll want to rebuild your railroad btw :-) |
| 20:24 |
sokomine |
there was a second testserver on that port recently |
| 20:24 |
sokomine |
my poor railroad :) what happened to it? |
| 20:24 |
sokomine |
(ok, i built it on the testserver...not the "real" one...) |
| 20:24 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: you built it on the test server, which isn't running now :-) |
| 20:24 |
sokomine |
ok :-) |
| 20:24 |
Taoki |
Connecting slowly as usual, but much better since the congestion handling branch compared to many days ago |
| 20:25 |
sokomine |
yes, first time with that old client |
| 20:25 |
Taoki |
yay, I'm in |
| 20:25 |
celeron55 |
>you will see only 2d sprites then |
| 20:26 |
celeron55 |
you will see nothing |
| 20:26 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: for players? |
| 20:26 |
celeron55 |
yes |
| 20:26 |
sokomine |
well...let's see. 23% loaded |
| 20:26 |
celeron55 |
there is no support whatsoever built into the protocol that 0.4.3 uses that would make it understand that it doesn't know what it's doing |
| 20:27 |
sokomine |
(it will arrive eventually. without those changes to the network congestion handling it was worse) |
| 20:27 |
celeron55 |
and adding that to the server is practically impossible |
| 20:27 |
Taoki |
A curiosity: If a model is completely covered by fog (draw distance culling), will it stop being rendered to improve performance? So players who are much too far away to be seen (or even behind voxels) don't get rendered |
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celeron55 |
Taoki: i am not sure, but i think irrlicht might do that |
| 20:28 |
Taoki |
Would be interesting if someone could test |
| 20:28 |
celeron55 |
irrlicht won't care about voxels |
| 20:29 |
celeron55 |
but it could care about fog; i'm guessing it doesn't |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: surely there's some way to fix that, 0.4.3 users not even seeing *names* is bad. |
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| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
server sees client protocol = 13, can't it just send the old data? |
| 20:31 |
VanessaE |
(I suppose not) |
| 20:31 |
sokomine |
ok. how it looks like: the box that is around the player (the wire) is there. but no names or anything else |
| 20:31 |
Taoki |
celeron55: sokomine confirms connecting with a 0.4.3 client works. Though ha can't see players, even floating names... just the selection box if I somehow happen to be in front of him |
| 20:31 |
Taoki |
yeah :P |
| 20:32 |
celeron55 |
0.4.3 won't draw a name for an entity if the entity doesn't have any visual |
| 20:32 |
celeron55 |
and it doesn't know the mesh visual |
| 20:32 |
VanessaE |
so send a fake visual then |
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| 20:33 |
sokomine |
ah. the entities usually respond by saying "ow" or something similar after punched. but that's a bit impractical :-) still - the world as such works |
| 20:33 |
Muadtralk |
hello world |
| 20:33 |
VanessaE |
heu Muadtralk |
| 20:33 |
VanessaE |
hey* |
| 20:34 |
Taoki |
Well, it's good enough for compatibility's sake. At least a player can still connect and build and stuff on a 0.4.3 server |
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celeron55 |
VanessaE: that is impossible due to the way object properties are handled |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
mmmh |
| 20:36 |
celeron55 |
when the properties are set in lua, the server-side object will create one message which is sent to all clients by lower level stuff |
| 20:36 |
celeron55 |
and it is not able to differentiate the contents to clients |
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VanessaE |
so have the server automatically send an *entity* to the 0.4.3 placed where that player is and make it just smaller than a normal 0.4.4 3d model so that 0.4.4 users don't se eit. |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
see it* |
| 20:38 |
VanessaE |
doesn't do any good for the invisible name but at least the player would see *something* |
| 20:38 |
celeron55 |
...wait, what? |
| 20:39 |
VanessaE |
uh oh.. 0.4.3 users can't build. |
| 20:39 |
celeron55 |
what you just suggested is equally impossible |
| 20:39 |
celeron55 |
there is no filtering for entities per client, and there is not *supposed to be* |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
who said anything about filtering? |
| 20:40 |
celeron55 |
you can't create mock-up entities like what you suggested without actually creating them |
| 20:40 |
celeron55 |
it's too complicated |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
| 20:41 |
celeron55 |
the problem here really is that if 0.4.3 was done wisely, it would show some unkown object or something, or at least the name |
| 20:42 |
celeron55 |
half of backwards compatibility is making the previous version aware that something new might come that they don't understand 8) |
| 20:42 |
Taoki |
Projects become wiser as they evolve, so we should just be glad 0.4.4 is :) |
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VanessaE |
celeron55: 0.4.3 clients can't build or dig, and the server is not updating the position of that client's player (sokomine) to Taoki and I |
| 20:45 |
Taoki |
Oh? I could see sokomine moving at least after they logged in |
| 20:45 |
sokomine |
yes. i can talk...but everything else seems to be a bit out of sync (no wonder i can't build if the server believes i'm elsewhere) |
| 20:45 |
VanessaE |
she and I can see each other, and we can see sokomine standing in one spot, but he sees himself in a different part of the world. |
| 20:45 |
sokomine |
she.. |
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celeron55 |
are you sure you don't have an old 0.4.4 in use |
| 20:45 |
KikaRz |
Hi there |
| 20:45 |
KikaRz |
Hi celeron55 |
| 20:46 |
KikaRz |
Hi OldCoder, VanessaE, Muadtralk |
| 20:46 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: nope. definitely using the latest commit. |
| 20:46 |
sokomine |
i'm moving further away for tests |
| 20:47 |
KikaRz |
hi marktraceur |
| 20:47 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: What's up? |
| 20:47 |
Taoki |
sorry about that, yes |
| 20:47 |
Taoki |
Anyway I don't see any major issues myself. Though from what I understand sokomine is moving though I see her standing in one place |
| 20:48 |
sokomine |
yes. i'm moving out now (~160 from spawn) to see if the world gets updated |
| 20:48 |
VanessaE |
yup, soko has not visibly moved from Taoki and I's standpoint since several minutes not. |
| 20:48 |
VanessaE |
now* |
| 20:48 |
Taoki |
yeah |
| 20:48 |
Taoki |
ah, ok then. Then there's a bug |
| 20:49 |
Taoki |
I'll reconnect and see if position changes |
| 20:49 |
VanessaE |
ok. I'll remain where I am. |
| 20:49 |
Taoki |
yes, good idea |
| 20:49 |
Taoki |
Will take a minute to connect again |
| 20:50 |
Taoki |
So... when will 0.4.4 be released officially and up for download? I use only GIT but just curious |
| 20:50 |
KikaRz |
idk |
| 20:51 |
Taoki |
celeron55: Also, I just noticed that in your distributions section on the stable version Download page, there's no package for openSUSE. Since that's my OS, I can build MineTest for it and send you the zip each release, so we have binaries for it too |
| 20:51 |
Taoki |
But without getText, I can't compile with that enabled from cmake (not sure what it even does) |
| 20:51 |
celeron55 |
gettext does translations |
| 20:52 |
Taoki |
ah, ok. If it's not needed for official releases I can compile for my distro |
| 20:52 |
celeron55 |
completely useless for those who communicate in english |
| 20:52 |
Taoki |
Also, I reconnected on VanessaE's server, and Sokomine isn't stuck in the old position any more |
| 20:52 |
celeron55 |
does the position update? |
| 20:54 |
sokomine |
ah |
| 20:54 |
OldCoder |
Hi on the phone |
| 20:54 |
Taoki |
Bad news: She appears at location 0,0,0 |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
from my perspective, soko is still at {-79,15,122}. |
| 20:54 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Did you need something? |
| 20:54 |
sokomine |
no, i believe myshelf to be at something like -133, x, 100 |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
but taoki and I can see each other moving around normally. |
| 20:55 |
Taoki |
Yes. But my client sees you standing at 0,0,0 |
| 20:55 |
VanessaE |
and I can build as usual. |
| 20:55 |
Taoki |
There's a bug somewhere |
| 20:55 |
VanessaE |
taoki: sees ME at 0,0,0? |
| 20:55 |
Taoki |
Likely unrelated to the models, but possibly related to 0.4.3 compatibility |
| 20:55 |
Sudi |
are you seriously debugging that by trying? |
| 20:55 |
Taoki |
VanessaE, no, you're standing near the railroad properly |
| 20:55 |
sokomine |
just claim that it's a new version of hide and seek. people go to a lot of trouble to play something like zombie on minecraft servers :-) |
| 20:55 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 20:56 |
Sudi |
Taoki: if you mixed up the message ids it not working with the other systems |
| 20:56 |
Taoki |
Sudi: That was fixed in latest master |
| 20:56 |
Taoki |
And I have the commit |
| 20:56 |
Sudi |
nvm |
| 20:56 |
Taoki |
Message Id's are back to the 0.4.3 versions |
| 20:57 |
VanessaE |
WHOA! |
| 20:57 |
VanessaE |
I placed a cart and suddenly sokomine moved. |
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| 20:58 |
Taoki |
Yes. Now she appers somewhere above VanessaE near the tracks |
| 20:58 |
Taoki |
Looks like some delay / lag |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
celeron55, when will you make a language system? (well, a translation thing) |
| 20:58 |
Taoki |
now she's moving around near us |
| 20:58 |
Taoki |
not sure if in realtime or it's a delayed package |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
i can help in about 3 languages + l33t l4n6u463. |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 20:58 |
VanessaE |
yes, now sokomine is moving around normally. |
| 20:58 |
VanessaE |
I did not reconnect |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, you're beautiful :P |
| 20:59 |
KikaRz |
now talking serious, you're my friend :) |
| 20:59 |
* marktraceur |
makes a subtle "she's been drinking" signal |
| 20:59 |
VanessaE |
heh ok :-) |
| 20:59 |
* marktraceur |
is toooootally kidding |
| 20:59 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur, you're totally mad '-' |
| 20:59 |
KikaRz |
maybe... |
| 21:00 |
KikaRz |
i was just being friendly |
| 21:00 |
marktraceur |
No, mad is the right way to describe me |
| 21:01 |
KikaRz |
LOL... |
| 21:02 |
celeron55 |
ummmmm... VanessaE: so it does work? |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: still trying to sort out the cause of soko suddenly stopping moving |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
Dear friends, i've received this email from avaaz. |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
The Ugandan Parliament is set to pass a brutal law that could carry the death penalty for homosexuality. If they do, thousands of Ugandans could face execution -- just for being gay. |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 21:03 |
sokomine |
yes, the somewhere above is right. i was trying to fly to 0/0/0 to see if i could interact at that spot |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
If you want to sign that petition... http://www.avaaz.org/en/uganda_stop_gay_death_law/?bWJTycb&v=19428 |
| 21:04 |
sokomine |
i have no lag while communicating with you. and the landscape did appear - a bit laggy but within tolerance - when i moved outwart to that -600 spot |
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| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
Who got a 1.4.4 server? |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
fail: |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
0.4.4 server* |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
can i enter in your server? |
| 21:05 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: in a few minutes |
| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
How i get a 3d skin created by me? |
| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
or 2d. |
| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
? |
| 21:05 |
VanessaE |
ok, soko jumped into a cart and started riding. Now, she's since jumped out of the cart and it has stopped from her perspective - but Taoki and I still see her riding around in it. |
| 21:06 |
marktraceur |
I've seen something similar to that, VanessaE |
| 21:06 |
Taoki |
seems like some sort of lag |
| 21:06 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: I was cutting trees on your server and infrequently saw khonkhortisan's model superimposed on the saplings' |
| 21:06 |
Taoki |
nvm, it stopped |
| 21:06 |
VanessaE |
ok, I dug a rail and forced the cart to stop. That updated sokomine's position, I can see her moving around for real again |
| 21:07 |
Taoki |
i think my client was informad later. I do have a slow connection to VanessaE's server |
| 21:07 |
Taoki |
So any of this might be lag |
| 21:07 |
Taoki |
Though... minutes is too long |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: no, I did that |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
that was not lag. |
| 21:07 |
Taoki |
oh |
| 21:07 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 21:07 |
KikaRz |
can i test with yours? |
| 21:07 |
sokomine |
no - the cart went away without me. saw it just leaving |
| 21:07 |
KikaRz |
i want to play in 0.4.4 |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: not right now, we're trying to sort something out. |
| 21:07 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: She said in a few minutes, chill |
| 21:07 |
KikaRz |
okey... :( |
| 21:08 |
celeron55 |
sokomine: 0.4.3 doesn't know about attachments, so that is how it should work |
| 21:08 |
sokomine |
ah. ok |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: also, sometimes 0.4.4 users see other 0.4.4 users with entities embedded into them - the other day I was seen with a rainbow, another time I was wearing a cart like a t-shirt. |
| 21:08 |
sokomine |
maybe the first discrepancy occoured through me trying to ride a cart? |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: possibly. |
| 21:08 |
sokomine |
*g* |
| 21:09 |
sokomine |
funny |
| 21:09 |
sokomine |
well. i might reconnect and we can try? |
| 21:09 |
leo_rockway |
there's a screenshot of the cart like a t-shirt |
| 21:09 |
sokomine |
well...nobody can complain that there's no clothing in minetest then :) |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
in which case the 0.4.4 server needs to disallow the use of attachments if there are 0.4.3 clients connected. |
| 21:09 |
Taoki |
ah, right. 0.4.3 has no attachments, so sokomine could never see herself in the cart, but others should be able to (I could) |
| 21:09 |
Taoki |
So it should only be a local effect |
| 21:09 |
sokomine |
some bugs are just funny and entertaining and make the game even better |
| 21:10 |
leo_rockway |
yeah, I laughed at VanessaE's cart t-shirt |
| 21:10 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: can you link to that screenshot for celeron55 to see? |
| 21:10 |
leo_rockway |
hold on, let me grep |
| 21:11 |
leo_rockway |
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1244720333.jpg |
| 21:11 |
leo_rockway |
fastest grep of the West |
| 21:11 |
marktraceur |
Can someone make a limited edition cart t-shirt? :P |
| 21:12 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: nice skin. Can i see the entire one? |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: see that screeshot. I don't think this is normal :D |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
someone got a screenshot of me *without* the cart t-shirt? :-) |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: haha :-) |
| 21:12 |
Taoki |
lol, how are you wearing the cart? That shouldn't happen |
| 21:13 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: beats me. |
| 21:13 |
VanessaE |
it just happened somehow, I think I was trying to ride a cart and it glitched maybe? |
| 21:13 |
Taoki |
Maybe |
| 21:14 |
KikaRz |
:/ |
| 21:14 |
KikaRz |
im a bit sad |
| 21:14 |
KikaRz |
because i want to test the new things and the 3d skin :/ |
| 21:14 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Maybe there's a call somewhere to attach one entity to another, but the arguments are reversed? |
| 21:16 |
KikaRz |
KikooBot is now in: Modo de Silêncio + Mensagens desativadas para público. |
| 21:16 |
KikaRz |
Sorry, but this message is not for yu. its just a bug with my bot. |
| 21:17 |
leo_rockway |
it's important to point out that it wasn't just one client seeing VanessaE like that |
| 21:17 |
leo_rockway |
it was kaeza (who took the screenshot) and I seeing the cart. |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
Kikoobot is now: Logged in NickServ + freenode |
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| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
Hi Kikoobot |
| 21:18 |
Kikoobot |
Ohai! |
| 21:18 |
NekoGloop |
Get me dinner, Kikoobot |
| 21:18 |
Kikoobot |
Sorry, I don't spam. |
| 21:18 |
NekoGloop |
D: |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
Kikoobot considers that dinner = Get me spam! |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 21:18 |
leo_rockway |
mmhhh... spam... yummy |
| 21:19 |
Kikoobot |
Yea... Yuuuuum yuuum... |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
Lol. |
| 21:19 |
NekoGloop |
Give me cake Kikoobot |
| 21:19 |
Kikoobot |
Cake is a lie. |
| 21:19 |
NekoGloop |
Give me pie Kikoobot |
| 21:19 |
Kikoobot |
GLaDos: oh, you want a pie... come to my sector and get a pie... :D |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
Omg, pc lagging |
| 21:19 |
leo_rockway |
is Kikoobot really a bot? |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
yes. |
| 21:20 |
NekoGloop |
Tell me more, Kikoobot |
| 21:20 |
KikaRz |
Are you a bot, Kikoobot? |
| 21:20 |
Kikoobot |
Am I a bot? No, really not. |
| 21:20 |
KikaRz |
NekoGloop, my pc is lagging |
| 21:20 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: http://i50.tinypic.com/5x5t9s.png |
| 21:20 |
NekoGloop |
Help me lag the pc, Kikoobot! :D |
| 21:20 |
Kikoobot |
I'm made of 5 cores, 578 GB Ram, 799,4 GHz and too much! |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 21:21 |
NekoGloop |
"[16:21] <Kikoobot> ASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?JI)FASLDAS?J [16:21] |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
he started lagging you a lot |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 21:21 |
NekoGloop |
no lag here. |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
not lagging |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
but yes, spamming |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 21:22 |
Kikoobot |
I'm now: Registered in Freenode! *_* |
| 21:22 |
NekoGloop |
this is hilarious. |
| 21:22 |
leo_rockway |
Kikoobot: say hello |
| 21:22 |
NekoGloop |
Do a trick, Kikoobot! |
| 21:22 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: nice, but i'd prefer without texture smoothing or whatever you call that. |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: that's taoki's computer doing that, she's got that option turned on |
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| 21:23 |
NekoGloop |
well then get a mirror :3 |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: http://www.9minecraft.net/girl-skin/ |
| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
back |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
that's the skin I'm using. |
| 21:23 |
Taoki |
Doing what, and what option? |
| 21:23 |
Taoki |
Ah, the filtering? Yes |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: bi/tri linear filtering. |
| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, can you let me enter the server? |
| 21:24 |
KikaRz |
my bot crashed u_u' |
| 21:24 |
NekoGloop |
It did a trick ^w^ |
| 21:24 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: go on in. use latest 0.4.4 git. we're done testing now. |
| 21:24 |
KikaRz |
Latest = ? |
| 21:24 |
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| 21:24 |
KikaRz |
same as other day that sfan compilet? |
| 21:24 |
KikaRz |
*compiled? |
| 21:24 |
NekoGloop |
Do a trick, Kikoobot! |
| 21:25 |
NekoGloop |
Now let's see if it crashes again :3 |
| 21:25 |
KikooBot |
Welcome to Aperture Micescience and company. This bot has been created by KikaRz. Please, do not make me automated questions / things. |
| 21:25 |
KikooBot |
Welcome to Aperture Micescience and company. This bot has been created by KikaRz. Please, do not make me automated questions / things. |
| 21:25 |
KikaRz |
Fail |
| 21:25 |
leo_rockway |
KikaRz: can KikooBot repeat things? |
| 21:25 |
KikaRz |
Yes. |
| 21:25 |
leo_rockway |
how? |
| 21:25 |
KikooBot |
[21:25] <leo_rockway> how? |
| 21:25 |
NekoGloop |
Aperture Science, Kikoobot |
| 21:25 |
leo_rockway |
but I didn't give him the order |
| 21:25 |
KikooBot |
[21:25] <NekoGloop> Aperture Science, Kikoobot |
| 21:26 |
KikooBot |
[21:25] <leo_rockway> but I didn't give him the order |
| 21:26 |
KikooBot |
Lol |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
looool |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 21:26 |
KikooBot |
I consider that as a order, my queen KikaRz... HAHAHAHAHAHAH (you said me looool) |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
shut up KikooBot! |
| 21:26 |
KikooBot |
I'm muted. |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
Now you can talk KikooBot! |
| 21:27 |
KikooBot |
I'm talking :D blablabla |
| 21:27 |
NekoGloop |
Resume talking, KikooBot |
| 21:27 |
KikooBot |
NekoGloop, that's an undentified order. |
| 21:27 |
NekoGloop |
a... what? |
| 21:27 |
KikooBot |
Wheatley: Just jump that bottom... |
| 21:27 |
KikooBot |
Wheatley: Just please... do me that favor... jump that thing! |
| 21:27 |
KikooBot |
Wheatley: Down there you will got your parents... |
| 21:27 |
NekoGloop |
KikaRz: Call it PortalQuoteBot :P |
| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
Wai? |
| 21:28 |
* marktraceur |
wonders who wants to kickban KikooBot |
| 21:28 |
KikooBot |
NekoGloop, that bot its already done by: Cave Johnson. |
| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
Nobody will Kickban it... iqualfragile bot was annoying |
| 21:29 |
* KikooBot |
is now in: MAINTANCE MODE. |
| 21:29 |
KikooBot |
Bye... going to add myself somethings... |
| 21:29 |
NekoGloop |
Recite "Ura-Omote Lovers", Kikoobot |
| 21:29 |
KikaRz |
MuteKikooBotOrder{message/OP|USER=KikaRz |
| 21:30 |
KikooBot |
KikooBot is now: Muted and in-maintance mode. |
| 21:30 |
KikooBot |
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ura-Omote+Lovers |
| 21:31 |
NekoGloop |
How did i know youtube would be on the top of that ;) |
| 21:31 |
KikooBot |
That's simple? isn't it? |
| 21:31 |
NekoGloop |
Now sing it, KikooBot. |
| 21:31 |
KikooBot |
(me randomly talks:) |
| 21:31 |
KikooBot |
blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
MuteKikooBotOrder{message/OP|USER=KikaRz |
| 21:32 |
KikooBot |
KikooBot is now: Muted |
| 21:32 |
* NekoGloop |
smacks KikooBot |
| 21:32 |
* KikooBot |
kicks off NekoGloop |
| 21:32 |
* NekoGloop |
bitch-slaps KikooBot |
| 21:32 |
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| 21:33 |
* KikooBot |
is away: Please, i'm in Maintance mode. Don't talk me. (Atenciously: KikooBot) |
| 21:33 |
* KikooBot |
is now: disconnected{irc_splitchat=log.message_sendchat} (all that codes are fake. just to give some... OPERA THINGS) |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
got not too much time |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
can you send me the ip of server? |
| 21:35 |
KikooBot |
Byee everyoneee! |
| 21:35 |
VanessaE |
24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
| 21:35 |
KikooBot |
OFFLINE :D |
| 21:35 |
rarkenin |
Hi. Is it possible to script the client to do things atutomatically from there, without modding the server? |
| 21:36 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 21:36 |
KikaRz |
is my skin putted up? |
| 21:36 |
VanessaE |
I think so, I don't remember |
| 21:36 |
KikaRz |
KikaRz (name) |
| 21:36 |
VanessaE |
no, I do not have a skin for you. |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
going to send you |
| 21:37 |
VanessaE |
celeron55, KikaRz : the spawn has been moved to -134,23,101 |
| 21:37 |
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| 21:37 |
VanessaE |
you will probably want to fly there after you connect. |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
Welcome Dogzilla131 |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_ |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
there is the skin |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
2d and 3d |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
tell me when to login |
| 21:39 |
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| 21:39 |
VanessaE |
it is installed now. We will not see it until I restart the server though. |
| 21:39 |
VanessaE |
you may log in any time. |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
:( |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
i wanted you all to see |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
:( |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
when will server restart? |
| 21:39 |
VanessaE |
not for a while |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
much pluggins? |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
*plugins / mods ? |
| 21:40 |
VanessaE |
no, there are people on right now :-) |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
0% media... |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
1%... |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
this sh** will take a lot :( |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
you dont have a cache folder? |
| 21:42 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
yes you have |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
in your minetest folder |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
there is a cache folder |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
that got all cache |
| 21:42 |
VanessaE |
but I don't distribute it. |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
with all things downloaded |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
Taoki |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
can you send me the cache folder with all things downloaded? this will take a lot |
| 21:43 |
Taoki |
KikaRz: VanessaE had a link |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
<VanessaE> but I don't distribute it. |
| 21:43 |
VanessaE |
that's out of date. |
| 21:43 |
Taoki |
ok. I can zip it and try to send via DCC |
| 21:43 |
VanessaE |
and was only a test. |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
dcc = ? |
| 21:44 |
Taoki |
IRC's file sending system |
| 21:44 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 21:44 |
KikaRz |
wait |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
DCC = Direct Client to Client protocol - a file transfer protocol for IRC. |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
(also for chat and other stuff) |
| 21:45 |
KikaRz |
downloading |
| 21:45 |
KikaRz |
connecting |
| 21:45 |
KikaRz |
failed |
| 21:45 |
KikaRz |
* DCC RECV connect attempt to Taoki failed (err=Ligação excedeu o tempo limite). |
| 21:45 |
KikaRz |
(connection exceded the time limit |
| 21:46 |
KikaRz |
you dont have dropbox? |
| 21:46 |
Taoki |
trying again |
| 21:46 |
Taoki |
no |
| 21:46 |
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| 21:47 |
sokomine |
re mika |
| 21:47 |
KikaRz |
sry |
| 21:47 |
KikaRz |
try again now |
| 21:47 |
KikaRz |
it was downloading in minetest |
| 21:47 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:47 |
KikaRz |
now, last trying |
| 21:48 |
KikaRz |
Taoki |
| 21:48 |
KikaRz |
try again plz |
| 21:48 |
Taoki |
did |
| 21:48 |
KikaRz |
Connecting... |
| 21:49 |
KikaRz |
grrr |
| 21:49 |
KikaRz |
use a file hoster |
| 21:49 |
KikaRz |
mediafire? |
| 21:49 |
Muadtralk |
ompldr? |
| 21:49 |
Taoki |
no account there, they're evil and removed accountless uploads |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
yea maybe. |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
No |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
Taoki |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
get into mediafire |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
thats no account needed |
| 21:50 |
Taoki |
it is since some months ago |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
never been for me |
| 21:52 |
KikaRz |
Come on |
| 21:52 |
KikaRz |
hurry plz |
| 21:52 |
Taoki |
odd. I'll use sendspace |
| 21:52 |
KikaRz |
:( |
| 21:52 |
Taoki |
yes, hold on |
| 21:52 |
KikaRz |
21:52 |
| 21:52 |
KikaRz |
i go to bed at 22:30 |
| 21:52 |
KikaRz |
tomorrow ill have a long day |
| 21:52 |
Taoki |
just 2 minutes |
| 21:53 |
Taoki |
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ouv9uy |
| 21:53 |
Taoki |
KikaRz: ^ |
| 21:53 |
KikaRz |
thxs |
| 21:53 |
KikaRz |
downloading |
| 21:53 |
KikaRz |
downloaded sucessfully |
| 21:53 |
KikaRz |
installing in minetest folder... |
| 21:53 |
Taoki |
Might need to be in your user folder |
| 21:53 |
Taoki |
usually username/.minetest |
| 21:53 |
KikaRz |
yes i know |
| 21:54 |
KikaRz |
not .minetest i guess |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
a lot of files for cache |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
omg |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
like a pass generator |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
and like a code generator |
| 21:57 |
marktraceur |
Is it a wishlist item to store and manage server addresses/identities/passwords in the client? |
| 21:57 |
KikaRz |
No |
| 21:57 |
KikaRz |
It's a cache folder that got all files with encrypted names as passwords |
| 21:57 |
KikaRz |
tjt8etu239t7r23hyr97812r612tgr26y |
| 21:58 |
KikaRz |
thats one thing |
| 21:58 |
KikaRz |
like |
| 21:58 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 21:58 |
marktraceur |
Related: Is it a wishlist item to be able to write mods that change the main menu? |
| 21:58 |
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| 22:00 |
sokomine |
makrtracur: at least the first thing (managing to connect to diffrent servers) *is* a wishlist item for me. the second thing...hm...changing keybindings while running would be nice but not that important |
| 22:00 |
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| 22:01 |
marktraceur |
sokomine: I meant like....changing how the main menu is laid out, how servers/worlds are managed and displayed |
| 22:02 |
sokomine |
hm. it's ok like it is...just that you can't easily handle several servers is annoying |
| 22:02 |
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| 22:02 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
| 22:02 |
marktraceur |
Maybe the one can lead to the other |
| 22:02 |
marktraceur |
Implement a Lua interface for modding the main menu interface, then a mod can add in a menu that stores and manages servers for you |
| 22:03 |
KikaRz |
Hi? server? |
| 22:03 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 22:03 |
KikaRz |
so, what i do? |
| 22:03 |
KikaRz |
i want to play minetest with yours |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
what do you mean? |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
but my fucking windows dislikes the game |
| 22:04 |
VanessaE |
get. the. latest. git. |
| 22:04 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
I CANT |
| 22:04 |
VanessaE |
then you're stuck for now. |
| 22:04 |
Uberi |
why not? |
| 22:04 |
Uberi |
there are windows builds available |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
I CANT COMPILE IN WNDOWS |
| 22:04 |
VanessaE |
http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-655bb52-win32.7z |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
where Uberi? |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
Thats not D3D compatible |
| 22:04 |
Uberi |
yeah, use VanessaE's link |
| 22:04 |
VanessaE |
this is more recent than yours (but still not latest) |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
Thats not D3D compatible |
| 22:04 |
Uberi |
what? |
| 22:05 |
Uberi |
it's the trunk release |
| 22:05 |
KikaRz |
Direct3D non compatible. |
| 22:05 |
KikaRz |
now, let me remember |
| 22:05 |
Uberi |
how is it not D3D compatible? it has a D3D backend, I checked |
| 22:05 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, D3D9 is not compiled in this dll. |
| 22:05 |
Uberi |
though the d3d backend has never been too stable in my experiences :/ |
| 22:06 |
KikaRz |
it works in d3d? |
| 22:06 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: d3d is a dynamically linked lib, no? |
| 22:06 |
KikaRz |
No. It's compiled in Irrlicht dll |
| 22:07 |
Uberi |
if you have the right rts installed it should work fine |
| 22:07 |
Uberi |
irrlicht is the engine, yes |
| 22:07 |
KikaRz |
I can't run in OpenGL |
| 22:07 |
KikaRz |
that's my problem! |
| 22:07 |
Uberi |
may I ask why? |
| 22:08 |
KikaRz |
Graphics card. |
| 22:08 |
Uberi |
ah |
| 22:08 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: graphics card DRIVER. |
| 22:08 |
KikaRz |
Not the drivers. |
| 22:08 |
Uberi |
might I also ask why you can't compile it? |
| 22:08 |
VanessaE |
a good driver can also translate D3D calls to OpenGL or vice versa. |
| 22:08 |
KikaRz |
The GRAPHICS CARD (HARDWARE PROBLEM) |
| 22:09 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, my computer is too laggy, and i'm too lazy to compile it |
| 22:09 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Can you try using better drivers, to verify that it's a hardware issue? |
| 22:09 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur, i've already got the latest ones |
| 22:09 |
KikaRz |
and its a hardware issue |
| 22:09 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: I didn't say latest, I said better....are they from your chipset manufacturer? |
| 22:09 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: if you really want it, then compile it! it's just a matter of investing the time and energy |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
And they are marktraceur |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, i can't compile it! |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
It give s me a lot of errors |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
and dont appear the exe to run |
| 22:10 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: What is the card? |
| 22:10 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: I had an old laptop with this terrible graphics card, the latest driver was from like 2004 and didn't support OGL :P |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
NViDia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400 |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
Its a Hardware issue. |
| 22:10 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: what kind of errors? |
| 22:10 |
marktraceur |
OK, that sounds reasonable. |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
There is an official manufacturer shop here in Portugal |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
i've been there |
| 22:12 |
KikaRz |
DIRECT3D9 DRIVER was not compiled into this dll. Try another one. |
| 22:12 |
KikaRz |
going now to try the other one from the version i got |
| 22:12 |
Uberi |
is that the error, KikaRz? |
| 22:12 |
KikaRz |
yes. |
| 22:12 |
Uberi |
wait did you say driver? |
| 22:12 |
Uberi |
can we get a screenshot of the error? |
| 22:13 |
KikaRz |
not too much |
| 22:13 |
KikaRz |
thats just that line |
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| 22:13 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: it compiles without issues? |
| 22:13 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: and you have a recent D3D runtime? |
| 22:13 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, not that error in compilation |
| 22:13 |
KikaRz |
but yes, in that win32 version |
| 22:14 |
Uberi |
wait wait, so you compiled it, and ran the result, and that line showed up? |
| 22:14 |
KikaRz |
No |
| 22:15 |
KikaRz |
A looooot of errors appeared in MSVS2010 |
| 22:15 |
Uberi |
then we need to see those |
| 22:15 |
Uberi |
a screenshot would be alright, a log best |
| 22:15 |
KikaRz |
... about 12000+ warnings and 5633+ errors? |
| 22:15 |
Uberi |
yes |
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marktraceur |
KikaRz: http://dpaste.com |
| 22:16 |
Uberi |
(use a pastebin, btw) |
| 22:16 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 22:16 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: If she started pasting that many lines we could react quickly enough, the Freenode throttling would make sure it wasn't too awful |
| 22:16 |
KikaRz |
... about 12000+ warnings and 5633+ errors? |
| 22:16 |
Uberi |
yes, KikaRz |
| 22:17 |
KikaRz |
that are long lines |
| 22:17 |
KikaRz |
not just mini lines |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
the pastebin can handle it |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
we've seen some pretty big debug.txt's in our time |
| 22:17 |
KikaRz |
its not a debug.txt |
| 22:17 |
KikaRz |
i cant copy paste the log |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
I know |
| 22:17 |
KikaRz |
of MSVS2010 |
| 22:17 |
KikaRz |
(Visual Studio 2010) |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: it should be possible |
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VanessaE |
open the log in wordpad or whatever and copy&paste to a pastebin |
| 22:18 |
leo_rockway |
why so many errors? GCC stops at the first and informs o.o |
| 22:18 |
KikaRz |
GCC |
| 22:18 |
KikaRz |
not VS. |
| 22:18 |
leo_rockway |
KikaRz: yeah, that's what I'm saying |
| 22:18 |
Uberi |
msvc seems to try recovery |
| 22:18 |
leo_rockway |
why doesn't VS fail gracefully? |
| 22:18 |
KikaRz |
sorry, going out |
| 22:18 |
KikaRz |
idk |
| 22:18 |
leo_rockway |
Uberi: mmhh... okay |
| 22:18 |
Uberi |
(and GCC does do multiple errors in my experience :P) |
| 22:19 |
leo_rockway |
I've seen many warnings... |
| 22:19 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: What do you mean, "going out"? |
| 22:19 |
leo_rockway |
I've only seen many errors if one error caused the others |
| 22:19 |
KikaRz |
away |
| 22:19 |
leo_rockway |
kind of like domino effect |
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* OldCoder |
will be AFK for half an hour on an errand |
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VanessaE |
zzz |
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mrtux |
VanessaE: http://mrtux.org/images/higginswilson.jpg |
| 22:56 |
mrtux |
my cat and dog |
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VanessaE |
awww |
| 22:58 |
Doc22 |
whoops |
| 22:59 |
Doc22 |
huh |
| 22:59 |
Doc22 |
did you see that |
| 22:59 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 22:59 |
VanessaE |
see what? |
| 22:59 |
Doc22 |
*nickserv* help |
| 22:59 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 22:59 |
Doc22 |
carry on |
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Doc22 |
I want to know that it isnt spamming *nickserv* help to the whole channel |
| 22:59 |
Doc22 |
awesome |
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Doc22 |
about time i got freenode account |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
oh, definitely not. |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
only you will see that |
| 23:01 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 23:01 |
Doc22 |
I was just wondering for the "*nickserv* help" |
| 23:01 |
Doc22 |
it was just lagging thats all |
| 23:01 |
Doc22 |
so it took a while for the message |
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| 23:03 |
VanessaE |
you know what, I'm just gonna go shut that stupid thing off. |
| 23:03 |
VanessaE |
brb. |
| 23:03 |
Doc22 |
lol |
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kaeza |
hey guys |
| 23:09 |
Doc22 |
hey |
| 23:09 |
Doc22 |
http://host-d.oddcast.com/php/application_UI/doorId=1083/clientId=299/?mId=44799153.3 |
| 23:09 |
Doc22 |
i loled |
| 23:10 |
Doc22 |
someone emailed me that site |
| 23:10 |
kaeza |
how does one close a socket in unix? |
| 23:10 |
kaeza |
is `close' sufficient? |
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| 23:11 |
Doc22 |
ask vanessae |
| 23:11 |
Doc22 |
vanessae is linux guru |
| 23:12 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: In a C file? Or what? |
| 23:12 |
kaeza |
yes |
| 23:13 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Are you using sys/socket.h? |
| 23:13 |
kaeza |
yes |
| 23:13 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: It would seem that close(2) should do the job (run `man close` to get the documentation) |
| 23:13 |
kaeza |
ok |
| 23:13 |
kaeza |
goonna try |
| 23:14 |
marktraceur |
Also `man socket' |
| 23:14 |
marktraceur |
Which mentions close(2) |
| 23:14 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 23:14 |
Doc22 |
main* |
| 23:14 |
Doc22 |
hah |
| 23:14 |
marktraceur |
What? |
| 23:14 |
Doc22 |
`man socket` |
| 23:14 |
Doc22 |
you mean main right |
| 23:15 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: No, try running `man socket` on a GNU/Linux system and you'll see what I mean |
| 23:15 |
Doc22 |
hrmmm |
| 23:15 |
Doc22 |
that shows how little I know about linux |
| 23:15 |
Doc22 |
seems like typi |
| 23:15 |
Doc22 |
typo |
| 23:15 |
kaeza |
It does not say anything about sockets |
| 23:15 |
Doc22 |
I want to learn more about linux |
| 23:16 |
Doc22 |
I have an old pc |
| 23:16 |
Doc22 |
and I am putting ubuntu server on it |
| 23:16 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: No, but sockets in a UNIX-like system are files |
| 23:16 |
Doc22 |
when I get my new pc |
| 23:16 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Because *everything* is a file |
| 23:16 |
Doc22 |
so then I will learn more |
| 23:16 |
kaeza |
sorry if I sound a bit dumb |
| 23:16 |
Doc22 |
what dist do you reccoment |
| 23:16 |
Doc22 |
reccomend |
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| 23:16 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: No, it's OK |
| 23:16 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: Trisquel GNU/Linux is my favorite |
| 23:16 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 23:16 |
Doc22 |
trisquel |
| 23:16 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 23:16 |
kaeza |
hey Kacey |
| 23:17 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Sockets are definitely not something I can reasonably expect you to just know, off the bat :) |
| 23:17 |
Kacey |
i am getting on VanessaE's sever |
| 23:17 |
Doc22 |
good for servers? |
| 23:17 |
Doc22 |
or desktop |
| 23:17 |
Doc22 |
I am looking for a good server dist |
| 23:17 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: In my experience, both :) |
| 23:17 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: I'm not into networking either. I'm just porting some code from an old API |
| 23:18 |
Doc22 |
to learn about things like bind |
| 23:18 |
Doc22 |
and ok thanks |
| 23:18 |
Doc22 |
:) |
| 23:18 |
kaeza |
and I'm doing it to the best of my knowledge |
| 23:18 |
Doc22 |
do you have experience with bind? |
| 23:18 |
Doc22 |
and the internet in general |
| 23:19 |
Doc22 |
eg. making a server with two nic function as a router for other pcs |
| 23:19 |
kaeza |
Doc22: I'm learning the basics with this project |
| 23:19 |
Doc22 |
cool |
| 23:19 |
Doc22 |
so with http and bind |
| 23:19 |
Doc22 |
etc? |
| 23:19 |
Doc22 |
running behind router? |
| 23:19 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: Are you talking to me? |
| 23:19 |
Doc22 |
yes |
| 23:19 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: Protip, use my name to highlight me |
| 23:19 |
Doc22 |
do you know how to make a server with two nic function as a router |
| 23:20 |
Doc22 |
ok I will marktraceur |
| 23:20 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: I don't, no. But I'm sure it's possible. |
| 23:20 |
Doc22 |
;) |
| 23:20 |
Kacey |
i want to make more skins... |
| 23:20 |
Doc22 |
ok I spent a while researching |
| 23:20 |
Doc22 |
and even longer working with my crappy router |
| 23:20 |
Doc22 |
to put it behind my pc |
| 23:20 |
leo_rockway |
it is possible, there are distros specifically for that, but I'm not sure marktraceur would recommend them, Doc22 |
| 23:20 |
Doc22 |
in the network |
| 23:20 |
Doc22 |
what distros are there? |
| 23:20 |
Doc22 |
Ive heard of linux-cop, something like that |
| 23:21 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: the API has sock_destroy, but I don't think it's a standard api. I may be mistaken |
| 23:21 |
leo_rockway |
I know there's one to make the computer work specifically as a router. I don't remember the name off the top off my head, though. |
| 23:21 |
Doc22 |
all right |
| 23:21 |
Doc22 |
ill just search "linux router distributes?" |
| 23:21 |
Kacey |
or anyone want me to open up a server |
| 23:21 |
marktraceur |
leo_rockway: I don't know why you'd need anything specific for this, it seems like a really simple function |
| 23:22 |
kaeza |
Is it correct to translate sock_destroy to close? |
| 23:23 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: It might not be |
| 23:23 |
Doc22 |
I really just need something that works on ubuntu or trisquel |
| 23:23 |
VanessaE |
back. |
| 23:23 |
Doc22 |
with two nics |
| 23:23 |
Doc22 |
as a router |
| 23:23 |
Doc22 |
hey vanessae |
| 23:23 |
Doc22 |
you know about linux soo... |
| 23:23 |
VanessaE |
sure |
| 23:24 |
Doc22 |
is there a package that turns a pc running linux with two nics into a router/firewall |
| 23:24 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Is sock_destroy from any particular library? |
| 23:24 |
kaeza |
wb V |
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Doc22 |
preferably compatible with either ubuntu server or trisquel |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
Doc22: iptables, but you still have to write a script to configure it. |
| 23:24 |
Doc22 |
all right |
| 23:24 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: It's not in the sources and googling it shows no useful results |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
it's not hard to use though |
| 23:24 |
Doc22 |
and can you put a router behind this? |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
I use my PC as a router. |
| 23:24 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Then I'd assume you're doing roughly the right thing |
| 23:24 |
Doc22 |
or a switch and just configure the clients? |
| 23:25 |
leo_rockway |
marktraceur: there is a tiny distro designed for that. As much as I like using 100% free and I now that this other distro won't have Linux-Libre, installing Trisquel to do that simple job sounds like too much. |
| 23:25 |
Doc22 |
I have a router that could be used behind it |
| 23:25 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: I'll test with close and report back |
| 23:25 |
marktraceur |
leo_rockway: I'd imagine Doc22 also wants to do other things with the server, but could be wrong |
| 23:25 |
VanessaE |
one ethernet NIC for the 'net, one for my LAN, and a wireless card also, for my laptop/BD/Wii |
| 23:25 |
Doc22 |
yes |
| 23:25 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 23:25 |
Doc22 |
I can get a wireless pci card |
| 23:25 |
Doc22 |
later when I am ready can you help me with configuration |
| 23:25 |
Kacey |
google chrome hates me |
| 23:26 |
VanessaE |
I hate google chrome, so we're even :D |
| 23:26 |
kaeza |
also is it safe to pass a lua_State to a shared lua lib from minetest? |
| 23:26 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 23:26 |
VanessaE |
all right damn it. I need some Lua help. |
| 23:26 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: why? |
| 23:26 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: What up? |
| 23:27 |
Kacey |
VanessaE? need help? |
| 23:27 |
leo_rockway |
marktraceur: do you work at the FSF? |
| 23:27 |
marktraceur |
leo_rockway: No, I'm a member of the FSF, I work at Wikimedia |
| 23:27 |
Doc22 |
vanessae I have one more question.. can you put a wired/wireless router behind this iptables thingy? |
| 23:27 |
VanessaE |
what is wrong with this piece of code? |
| 23:27 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.com/AWedDkx8 |
| 23:27 |
VanessaE |
it returns either 5 or nil, no matter what. |
| 23:27 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Any hints? Error messages? Oh, return value. |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
(instead of a range 2-5 or nil) |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
what am I missing here? |
| 23:28 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Should it be default:air? |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
the code calling this function supplies the position of a node 1 above that which the plant grows on. |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: "air" always worked before? |
| 23:29 |
marktraceur |
OK, I wasn't sure |
| 23:29 |
ecube |
Is the treegen code still in the source code as of the latest version? |
| 23:29 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: use elseif |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 23:29 |
Doc22 |
no it shouldnt be default:air |
| 23:29 |
kaeza |
let me fix it |
| 23:29 |
Doc22 |
it should be just air |
| 23:30 |
ecube |
air is not in the default mod |
| 23:30 |
ecube |
it's defined by the source code of minetest |
| 23:30 |
celeron55 |
in the case of all of those positions being air, it will always end up with 5 |
| 23:30 |
VanessaE |
I've been banging my head on this piece of code for an hour (intermittently) and just don't see what's wrong. |
| 23:30 |
celeron55 |
if you replace them with elseif, it'll just always end up with 3 |
| 23:30 |
Doc22 |
ive had a lot of "fun" with default:air mistakes |
| 23:30 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: no, it'll end up nil :-) |
| 23:30 |
VanessaE |
note line 15. |
| 23:30 |
celeron55 |
ehm |
| 23:30 |
Kacey |
hey c55 is on.... |
| 23:31 |
celeron55 |
i mean, non-air |
| 23:31 |
OldCoder |
Back |
| 23:31 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: She's right, that will also cause a nil |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
oh that's perfectly fine actually, I don't care what it defaults to in that case :-) |
| 23:31 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/kAXmgbPC |
| 23:31 |
Kacey |
celeron55: may i ask a question? |
| 23:32 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: didn't realize elseif was a valid Lua keyword. |
| 23:32 |
VanessaE |
I'll try that |
| 23:32 |
kaeza |
celeron55: is it safe to pass a lua_State to a shared lua lib from minetest? |
| 23:32 |
celeron55 |
kaeza: why are you asking that question? |
| 23:33 |
kaeza |
both are 5.1 |
| 23:33 |
celeron55 |
ehm... if your program has been built to use the same version of Lua, obviously yes |
| 23:34 |
celeron55 |
build options should be sameish too |
| 23:34 |
kaeza |
ok |
| 23:34 |
Kacey |
celeron55: would it be possible to make it so that player textures (meshes more of) came from the client side and not the server side? |
| 23:34 |
Doc22 |
can you masquerade between your isp and a router |
| 23:34 |
kaeza |
The problem is I have a native lib to be loaded from lua |
| 23:35 |
Doc22 |
and have the router give it's dhcp clients internet access |
| 23:35 |
Doc22 |
if that is possible... |
| 23:35 |
kaeza |
but hwne i use "require", it fails with undefined reference |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: that fixed it, thanks |
| 23:35 |
Doc22 |
what configuration do I need to do in the router |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
now to fix the rest of my code to actually do something useful with that function :D |
| 23:35 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 23:36 |
* kaeza |
feels like a god VanessaE |
| 23:36 |
Doc22 |
what configuring needs to be done to a router to put a masquerading computer between it and the isp |
| 23:36 |
Doc22 |
assuming that you want internet access for dhcp clients |
| 23:36 |
VanessaE |
if you have a computer and two nics, you don't need a router. |
| 23:36 |
Kacey |
VanessaE: i cannotmove on the server |
| 23:37 |
Doc22 |
I need a router because I have like 6 wired computers; too much for an nic |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: strange |
| 23:37 |
Doc22 |
so I need a router |
| 23:37 |
Doc22 |
can I have a router between the pc and my clients |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
Doc22: ethernet switch. |
| 23:37 |
Doc22 |
oh and configure each client |
| 23:37 |
Doc22 |
gotcha |
| 23:37 |
Kacey |
there was a 2 block high node that i was stuck in |
| 23:38 |
Doc22 |
ill need to buy one |
| 23:38 |
Kacey |
i was stuck in a player |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: um... |
| 23:39 |
Kacey |
i spawned in another player |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
there, that should force a respawn when you un-lag. |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
(I had to kill you) |
| 23:39 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: It's OK, minetest is certified STD-free |
| 23:39 |
Kacey |
i logged off and am logging back on |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 23:40 |
Kacey |
nope can you move in game please? |
| 23:40 |
Doc22 |
D: |
| 23:41 |
Kacey |
i think i am binded to you |
| 23:41 |
Kacey |
ok rejoin |
| 23:41 |
Doc22 |
"[16:39] <marktraceur> Kacey: It's OK, minetest is certified STD-free" to a certain point... |
| 23:41 |
Doc22 |
dont do it too often |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: ok, the attachment code is definitely broken - players attaching to each other, entities other than carts attaching to players...eh... this is not good I think :-) |
| 23:42 |
marktraceur |
Doc22: Playing minetest alone cannot give you STDs. Dr. Spaceman told me so. |
| 23:42 |
Doc22 |
or you may be entitled to cash |
| 23:43 |
marktraceur |
"Dr. Spaceman, is it true that bread eats your brain?" "We have no way of knowing, because the powerful bread lobby keeps stopping my research!" |
| 23:43 |
leo_rockway |
hey, players attaching to players might not bee too bad ;-) |
| 23:43 |
Doc22 |
have you recieved stds from minetest? you may be entitled to cash! Call 1-888-999-8623 |
| 23:43 |
kaeza |
Next: Minetest XXX |
| 23:43 |
Kacey |
i was being teleported from one torch to another |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: torches have particle entities |
| 23:44 |
Kacey |
wow |
| 23:44 |
Kacey |
i have my server started |
| 23:44 |
Doc22 |
Kace: nice |
| 23:45 |
Doc22 |
Kacey* lol |
| 23:45 |
Kacey |
67.162.156.91 port 30000 |
| 23:45 |
kaeza |
how do you get the local player name? |
| 23:45 |
kaeza |
sorry, too many dumb questions |
| 23:46 |
leo_rockway |
kaeza: singleplayer |
| 23:46 |
kaeza |
sp or mp |
| 23:46 |
kaeza |
sory |
| 23:46 |
kaeza |
sorry* |
| 23:46 |
kaeza |
I was thinking the wrong way |
| 23:48 |
Dogzilla131 |
can i join the server kacey? |
| 23:50 |
kaeza |
leo_rockway: nbot what I meant |
| 23:50 |
kaeza |
not* |
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Kacey_ |
lol computer failed |
| 23:53 |
marktraceur |
Kacey_: That happens sometimes |
| 23:53 |
Kacey_ |
ya |
| 23:53 |
Kacey |
k better |
| 23:53 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 23:53 |
Kacey |
any way |
| 23:53 |
Doc22 |
im getting a newer pc |
| 23:53 |
Doc22 |
so that probs wont happen lol |
| 23:53 |
Kacey |
is there a new sfan5 build? |
| 23:54 |
Doc22 |
idk |
| 23:55 |
Kacey |
VanessaE ^^ |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
no, what I linked to last is the most recent I saw on sfan's site. |
| 23:55 |
Kacey |
did you link it while i was on? |
| 23:57 |
Kacey |
i cannot see player textures(or meshes whatever) on your server VanessaE |
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| 23:58 |
Kacey |
hey octu |
| 23:58 |
Octupus |
hi |
| 23:58 |
Kacey |
do you have 0.4.4 yet? |
| 23:59 |
Octupus |
i dont use sfan builds |
| 23:59 |
Kacey |
well cant you compile it? or have someone else compile for you? |
| 23:59 |
kaeza |
how do I set a socket to (non)blocking mode? |
