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00:02 jordan4ibanez How would i go about compiling so there is no debug.txt
00:03 kaeza minetest; rm -f ~/.minetest/debug.txt    ;)
00:03 Uberi|Away jordan4ibanez: minetest --debug=""
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00:07 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: There doesn't appear to be a compile option. Better than Uberi's option might be ln -s /dev/null ~/debug.txt
00:09 Uberi|Away ooh good idea
00:09 Uberi|Away over here I use a batch file to start it up
00:12 leo_rockway so, whatever the congestion branch was doing, it was great.
00:14 jordan4ibanez congestion branch?
00:14 jordan4ibanez jordan@jordan-A780L3L:~/Desktop/minetest-0.4.4/bin$ ./minetest --debug="" 19:14:34: ERROR[main]: Unknown command-line parameter "--debug="
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00:15 jordan4ibanez Launched it with ./minetest --debug=""
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00:15 jordan4ibanez got the error:
00:15 jordan4ibanez 19:14:34: ERROR[main]: Unknown command-line parameter "--debug="
00:16 leo_rockway maybe this one?   --logfile <value>     Set logfile path ('' = no logging)
00:16 Uberi|Away oh yeah that's the one
00:17 jordan4ibanez 19:17:33: ERROR[main]: Unknown command-line parameter "--logfile="
00:18 Uberi|Away it's minetest --logfile ""
00:19 jordan4ibanez There we go
00:21 jordan4ibanez kde is quite nice, i don't know why i keep switching away from it
00:22 jordan4ibanez Minetest runs a little faster without the logfile
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00:25 leo_rockway <3 KDE
00:25 leo_rockway I'm running 4.10 beta 1 :D
00:25 leo_rockway anyway, dinner. BBL.
00:26 VanessaE same here, time to go eat.
00:31 Uberi|Away hey does anyone mind if I make pistons extend/retract faster?
00:31 Uberi|Away your super delicate timing based piston contraptions might break
00:35 jordan4ibanez DO IT
00:36 jordan4ibanez I want to convert the rest of the faitful pack, but, lazy > faitful
00:38 Uberi|Away done dealio
00:41 NakedFury is there a gimp script that would break a picture into smaller images in sizes selected by user? example using a terrain.png from minecraft and using the script to break the picture into 32x32 smaller images
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00:45 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1NfWIaYed8&amp;feature=related
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00:52 Uberi|Away hey VanessaE[L]
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01:00 marktraceur NakedFury: That sounds like a super-simple ImageMagick command
01:01 VanessaE back.
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01:13 jordan4ibanez Redcrab, can you host a server for me?
01:13 jordan4ibanez Or at least, can I help make yours better?
01:13 VanessaE what do you want to do to it?
01:14 jordan4ibanez Put technic on it 8)
01:14 VanessaE nebver gonna happen on that server :-)
01:14 VanessaE never*
01:14 * marktraceur muses on the meaning of "better"
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01:16 jordan4ibanez Since i have a hard time hosting a server on my own computer, i need someone to host for me that has a fast server
01:16 VanessaE well you've seen how slow my server is :-)
01:16 VanessaE and the box it runs on is no slouch either
01:17 jordan4ibanez I've said my computer specs and my server blazes even with a ton of mods, I don't know why yours lags
01:17 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: There are nice people who will host a server for you at the low low price of ~$19 per month
01:18 NekoGloop Yayz k/d ratio of 2:1!
01:19 Muadtralk jordan4ibanez
01:19 jordan4ibanez Maudtralk
01:19 NekoGloop And now i'm being massacerd.
01:19 Muadtralk i would be happy to host for you just tell me your prequisites
01:19 NekoGloop ... Like the english language.
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01:21 jordan4ibanez No thank you
01:21 Muadtralk no?
01:21 jordan4ibanez Server specs?
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01:27 NekoGloop Fucking FPS noobs. Shoot once you can hit me... Not when you see me...
01:28 Dogzilla131 which server is that one
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01:54 marktraceur Hm. Had a brain blast on the BART ride home.
01:54 VanessaE oh?
01:54 marktraceur Lua mods could probably integrate with other web-type services over HTTP APIs
01:55 VanessaE interesting idea
01:55 NekoGloop FPS logic: get shot in chest, live. get shot in foot, die.
01:55 marktraceur My first thought was OpenBadges, Mozilla's deal....host an OpenBadges instance and (maybe) a Persona instance on a machine, use a Lua mod to keep track of "how many of X have you done", award badges as appopriate
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01:57 marktraceur But then I thought it might be possible to integrate with MediaWiki somehow....use MediaWiki to store contents of letters or books, for example. That one's not as well-thought out, but it's certainly possible to use it for other things, like a bulletin board or library on the server.
01:59 NekoGloop 12:12 k/d ratio. Seems legit.
01:59 NakedFury mark you want to try something like achievements tied to accounts?
02:00 marktraceur NakedFury: Roughly so, yes.
02:00 NakedFury Playstation Trophies, Xbox Achievements?
02:00 marktraceur NakedFury: OpenBadges
02:01 NekoGloop NakedFury: Did i mention the FPS game i mentioned is free (voicechat has to be bought though)
02:02 NakedFury would that work as a logger of a players work? like have statistic about the player? Player X has mined ## number stone blocks, # of iron, etc. died # of times
02:02 NakedFury yes you did
02:02 marktraceur NakedFury: I'm not sure they do partial badges, but I could look more
02:04 NekoGloop And fuck this 'GustavoAdame' person.
02:04 NekoGloop He has 6 kills. I have 6 deaths. Do the logic.
02:04 NekoGloop (Now 7)
02:06 NakedFury the way I see to do it is to have accounts tied to the servers website or private forum, if any, there they can access a Statistics or Profile page where they check the games achievements and how many they have left to do, check how many miles or whatever length system is used they have walked, how many times they have jumped, and a bunch of other stuff just added for sillyness and fun.
02:06 NekoGloop Now i have killed him.
02:07 NekoGloop Spawn camping <3
02:07 marktraceur NekoGloop: Care to chat about this FPS you're playing somewhere it's relevant?
02:08 NekoGloop marktraceur: It isnt relevant anywhere.
02:08 marktraceur NekoGloop: Then stop talking about it, maybe
02:08 NekoGloop Fine. I'll just leave then
02:08 * marktraceur is 120% OK with that
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02:10 kaeza hi
02:10 marktraceur kaeza: Welcome back!@
02:11 kaeza Thanks mark.
02:11 kaeza :)
02:11 kaeza anything new?
02:11 marktraceur kaeza: We got rid of NekoGloop for a while
02:14 marktraceur Ooh ooh ooh, could write an OpenStreetMap mod that maps the game as you play
02:14 leo_rockway marktraceur: but there is a map mod already.
02:14 marktraceur leo_rockway: Link?
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02:15 leo_rockway mmhh... hold on
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02:16 Kacey hello
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02:16 Aggies hello
02:16 Kacey hey he got caps in his name now
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02:17 Kacey wow
02:17 * Aggies kick Kacey in the nuts with steel toed boots
02:17 leo_rockway marktraceur: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747
02:17 * Kacey hits Aggies with
02:17 Kacey SPELL-CHECK
02:18 * Kacey hits Aggies with SPELL-CHECK
02:18 marktraceur Eugh, seems hacky.
02:18 Kacey VanessaE is there a new git?
02:18 * Aggies hits Kacey with auto-fail
02:18 VanessaE Kacey: git is updated frequently.
02:18 VanessaE I don't know if there's anything new since you last fetched from it.
02:19 Kacey uugh well i need to learn how to compile first (OldCoder)
02:20 * adfjjasldkjfjlwa kick Kacey with kitten boots
02:20 * Kacey wishes to mute Aggies
02:21 Kacey VanessaE where can i get the new git?
02:21 VanessaE Kacey: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest  and  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game
02:21 VanessaE same as always
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02:22 Kacey i have minetest_game but i need the other git
02:22 VanessaE you definitely need the other one.
02:22 VanessaE minetest_game is just a mod pack.
02:23 Kacey ya
02:23 VanessaE minetest is the engine.
02:23 AGGIES I ZO BORED
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02:23 Kacey can you teach me how to copile
02:23 Kacey compile?
02:23 OldCoder Hi!
02:24 Kacey hello
02:24 OldCoder Kacey, I may be able to do it tomorrow
02:24 OldCoder As soon as I speak with thexyz again
02:24 Kacey but i need it now D:
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02:25 Kacey hello
02:25 Kacey <(
02:25 AGGIES sup
02:25 kaeza hey kacey
02:26 AGGIES i found an awesome website
02:26 Kacey i need to compile or at least learn to compile
02:27 kaeza Kacey which os?
02:27 Kacey windows
02:27 Lumpio- It would be so much easier on Linux
02:28 Kacey well my vm wont boot properly
02:29 AGGIES i dj sorta
02:31 AGGIES u guys there
02:33 Kacey good he is gone
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02:35 leo_rockway does water push nodes in master already?
02:35 leo_rockway or do I still need the builtin_item mod?
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02:36 kaeza1 hey tux
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02:39 Dogzilla131 is there a command or mod that lets you see yourself
02:39 leo_rockway no
02:40 NekoGloop alt+f4 might work.
02:41 leo_rockway VanessaE: how can I apply the changes of the test server? Is there a branch I can clone?
02:41 leo_rockway NekoGloop: HaHa
02:41 VanessaE yeah, clone the regular repo, git checkout congestion_settings
02:41 VanessaE (or -s)
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02:41 leo_rockway thanks
02:43 leo_rockway VanessaE: then git pull?
02:43 leo_rockway I'm not very knowledgeable of git...
02:43 VanessaE nope
02:43 VanessaE just clone or pull, then checkout and build.
02:43 VanessaE (the clone step already grabs all branches)
02:43 leo_rockway % git checkout congestion_setting
02:43 leo_rockway Branch congestion_setting set up to track remote branch congestion_setting from origin.
02:43 leo_rockway Switched to a new branch 'congestion_setting'
02:43 VanessaE yup.
02:43 leo_rockway okay
02:43 VanessaE now build it.
02:44 leo_rockway I'll build now, then. Thank you.
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02:52 marktraceur Hm, maybe a better idea would be a live map viewer that uses some more sophisticated SQL. /me starts that
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02:53 VanessaE wait, make sure it works with leveldb maps too.
02:53 marktraceur VanessaE: Why? Don't modern maps all use sqlite?
02:54 VanessaE no.
02:54 VanessaE OldCoder and thexyz have been working on/testing using leveldb as the backend/storage method for maps
02:54 marktraceur Hm. /me will look at it
02:54 VanessaE it's supposed to be way faster than sql
02:54 marktraceur VanessaE: sql, or sqlite?
02:54 VanessaE (sqlite)
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02:55 leo_rockway anybody knows how to fix this? http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=190&amp;t=111342
02:56 NakedFury marktraceur: this is what you would want? http://map.massivecraft.com/   an online active map showing all explores regions, points of interest, and players position? all configurable
02:56 leo_rockway I'm on Debian Wheezy
02:56 marktraceur NakedFury: Similar, yes
02:57 NakedFury http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/dynmap/  and   http://docs.overviewer.org/en/latest/
02:57 NakedFury those 2 do that
02:57 leo_rockway oh, here's my answer
02:58 leo_rockway https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/64
02:58 Kacey i must go
02:59 marktraceur Looks like Overviewer is a good system to use, thanks NakedFury
03:01 marktraceur Ooh, it's even in Python
03:02 NakedFury didnt know, I just posted them here so you could see examples and maybe copy them
03:02 marktraceur I'll see if I can't figure out how to support n DB formats and m mods with this system.
03:05 marktraceur Hm, uses the Google Maps API for rendering. That's just not necessary.
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03:06 NekoGloop Fucking crashes.
03:06 marktraceur NekoGloop: I thought you were leaving?
03:07 NekoGloop marktraceur: I thought you were a dick?
03:08 marktraceur NekoGloop: I like people to stay on topic, sorry if you disagree with that, I guess we could ask the ops in the channel if they want to change the rules of IRC to fit your desires
03:08 NekoGloop What topic?
03:09 marktraceur NekoGloop: Minetest.
03:16 Muadtralk http://ompldr.org/vZ2g4eA/screenshot_1157764264.png
03:16 Muadtralk anyone have an explaination?
03:17 telek 8 bit color mode? :D
03:18 NekoGloop Texture pack
03:19 Muadtralk not the colour
03:19 Muadtralk the head
03:19 Muadtralk see how its black
03:20 VanessaE Muadtralk: your client is out of date relative to the server.
03:20 Muadtralk hmmmm
03:20 VanessaE that was fixed already.
03:20 Muadtralk i think the server is outdate relative to the client
03:20 Muadtralk would that explain it?
03:20 VanessaE try signing into mine
03:20 Muadtralk i did
03:20 Muadtralk it works fine
03:21 Muadtralk :)
03:21 VanessaE ok, server must be b0rk3d then :-)
03:22 Muadtralk yep!
03:22 VanessaE that bug was fixed right after the 3d models got pushed in
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03:34 leo_rockway why does the player_textures mod asks for two files? I thought that the skins were only one file, spread open.
03:34 leo_rockway oh, wait... not compatible with 3d players
03:34 VanessaE wrong version
03:34 leo_rockway which one do I need for 3d players skins?
03:34 VanessaE you need the recent one
03:34 VanessaE https://github.com/sdzen/player_textures
03:35 leo_rockway thank you
03:35 VanessaE clone that, put in player_somename.png for the (case-sensitive) player in question, restart the server.
03:35 VanessaE ignore the textures it comes with
03:36 VanessaE you have to install that mod into your games/minetest_game/mods folder
03:36 leo_rockway yup, done that, thanks
03:36 VanessaE it will not work properly in mods/minetest
03:36 VanessaE ok
03:36 leo_rockway now looking for a neat skin, hehe
03:36 NekoGloop Do we have the imagery of the motion in the relative orders of the player model rendering?
03:37 VanessaE huh?
03:37 NekoGloop Do we have model animations?
03:37 VanessaE oh sure
03:37 VanessaE players "walk" around when the move
03:37 NekoGloop :D
03:37 VanessaE more animations to follow I'm sure.
03:37 NekoGloop Digging?
03:37 VanessaE digging too,
03:37 NekoGloop Holding items?
03:37 leo_rockway not yet
03:38 VanessaE players used to "die" but that's been changed to just lying down
03:38 leo_rockway but it's a WIP
03:38 NekoGloop :(
03:38 VanessaE players can sit too
03:38 VanessaE (though nothing uses that feature yet)
03:38 NekoGloop VanessaE: Like MC?
03:38 NekoGloop (Falling to the left)
03:38 NakedFury can they fly?
03:38 VanessaE NakedFury: no.
03:38 VanessaE NekoGloop: they used to fall backwards, like a movie character getting shot.
03:38 VanessaE now they just lie down on their backs on dieing.
03:39 NakedFury we need flying, drowning, swimming, crushing, falling, lava dying animations
03:39 VanessaE (taoki had trouble with animation looping on death)
03:39 VanessaE NakedFury: so supply them :-)
03:39 NakedFury dont have the client yet
03:39 VanessaE get it :-)
03:39 NakedFury and finals are coming so I wont be able to do minetest much until its over
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03:42 VanessaE wb kaeza
03:49 marktraceur Damn it.
03:49 marktraceur VanessaE: IP and port?
03:50 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000
03:50 * marktraceur is annoyed at his own desire to play with others
03:51 VanessaE why?
03:51 leo_rockway VanessaE: I'm playing on my friend's server and everything goes super slow. I either didn't get the changes from that branch, or they don't work miracles like they did on your server o.o
03:51 marktraceur Because it means I can't play on the established server
03:51 VanessaE leo_rockway: the server admin is the one who has to apply the branch and new settings
03:51 marktraceur s/the/my/
03:52 VanessaE so your friend has to fetch the congestion_setting branch and tweak the associated settings.
03:52 leo_rockway VanessaE: I'm my friend's server admin
03:52 leo_rockway I git cloned master
03:52 leo_rockway then switched to congestion_settings
03:53 leo_rockway how do I tweak the associated settings?
03:53 VanessaE oh ok
03:53 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/1d330c17157998f171fb0bee15c8e3af93c6eee5/minetest.conf.example#L201
03:53 VanessaE those last three settings.
03:54 VanessaE I turned the rtt one to 0.6, and min rate to 50, but that was a first attempt and is far from optimal.
03:54 VanessaE still, it did give most folks a nice boost in bandwidth
03:54 leo_rockway okay, thank you!
03:55 VanessaE no prob :-)\
03:55 marktraceur Holy gods, that takes some time to download the media, eh
03:55 VanessaE min and max rates are packets per second.
03:55 VanessaE I think the rtt is a measure of seconds.
03:55 VanessaE marktraceur: yeah, that server features A Metric Assload of Mods â„¢
03:55 marktraceur Oh, hm.
03:56 leo_rockway also, my skin didn't work... I wonder if it's because my nick has an underscore
03:56 marktraceur VanessaE: Any server with a metric cubic metre instead?
03:56 VanessaE and 30000 is not running the congestion_setting branch, it's running master, hence it's slow.
03:56 marktraceur Ah.
03:56 VanessaE um, maybe redcrab.suret.net:30401
03:56 VanessaE :-)
03:56 VanessaE there are a fair number of mods there
03:57 VanessaE well that didn't take you too long
03:59 leo_rockway well... 7 seconds of lag :S
04:01 leo_rockway VanessaE: did you have anticheat turned off in that server too?
04:01 VanessaE yes
04:01 leo_rockway oh... how can I turn those off?
04:02 VanessaE disable_anticheat = true
04:02 leo_rockway I thought it needed code tweaking
04:02 leo_rockway thank you
04:07 VanessaE no prob
04:08 leo_rockway that lowered my lag from 7 seconds to 4 seconds
04:14 NekoGloop My lag is 90 minutes.
04:16 leo_rockway I can't get the skins to work :S
04:21 marktraceur Whoa. Crash.
04:22 NekoGloop Whoa. Bang.
04:27 mrtux good night
04:27 leo_rockway VanessaE: this is where I have the skins mod: /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/player_textures
04:27 mrtux @all: please don't message me while i'm sleeping
04:27 leo_rockway in there there's a folder called "textures"
04:28 mrtux etc
04:28 leo_rockway with this file: player_leorockway.png
04:28 mrtux goodnight
04:28 leo_rockway \ø night
04:28 leo_rockway but I am not seeing the skin
04:30 VanessaE looks good.
04:30 leo_rockway no skin :S
04:30 leo_rockway I'm logging in with a second client
04:31 leo_rockway still green shirt
04:31 VanessaE you have to make sure you sign in *exactly* as leorockway without the underscore
04:31 leo_rockway yup, I had the underscore before, and the file had the underscore
04:31 VanessaE and that your world is actually using that game
04:31 leo_rockway but I thought that maybe that was confusing the mod
04:31 leo_rockway oh... mmhh... maybe my world is using minimal
04:31 VanessaE possibly.
04:31 leo_rockway no, it's not, because the mod is being loaded
04:31 leo_rockway I added a print to it
04:32 leo_rockway so my username is indeed leorockway
04:32 leo_rockway and the name of the file is player_leorockway.png
04:32 leo_rockway but still no Star Trek uniform o.o
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04:37 leo_rockway I added a print inside if io.open(filename..".png") then
04:37 leo_rockway and the print shows up... so that's working too
04:38 leo_rockway weird
04:40 VanessaE very trange
04:40 VanessaE very strange
04:40 VanessaE are you sure that /usr/local/share/minetest/games/minetest_game is actually what's being used?
04:40 VanessaE rather than a run-in-place build?
04:41 leo_rockway yup, I just built it
04:41 leo_rockway no local
04:42 OldCoder Will somebody help me to test a new avatar?
04:42 OldCoder You simply need to log in
04:42 leo_rockway OldCoder: sure
04:42 leo_rockway this is were I put the file: /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/player_textures/textures/player_leorockway.png
04:42 leo_rockway it's an actual png
04:42 OldCoder leo_rockway, one moment
04:42 OldCoder Hmm
04:42 leo_rockway this one: http://minecraftgallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/TNGcom.png
04:42 OldCoder Actually I made a new one I wish to test
04:43 OldCoder But I will add yours too
04:43 OldCoder Hold on
04:43 leo_rockway OldCoder: no, I was talking to VanessaE, hehe
04:43 OldCoder Ah
04:43 leo_rockway I was testing the skins too
04:43 leo_rockway but it's not showing up for me
04:43 OldCoder Let's try
04:45 OldCoder leo_rockway, willing to join:
04:45 OldCoder minetest.org port 30004 as leo
04:45 OldCoder lower case?
04:45 leo_rockway okay
04:46 OldCoder Hold on ty
04:47 leo_rockway I'm joining already
04:47 leo_rockway 62% media
04:47 OldCoder Yes
04:47 OldCoder I see you
04:47 OldCoder Sorry about the delay
04:48 leo_rockway I don't see anything yet, still loading, hehe
04:48 OldCoder leo_rockway, Joining as "leo" and world 30004 not 30000 ?
04:48 leo_rockway yup
04:48 OldCoder Works
04:49 OldCoder I will screenshot
04:49 leo_rockway media finished loading
04:49 OldCoder Wait
04:50 OldCoder Hold still a minute ty
04:50 leo_rockway Steve o.o
04:50 OldCoder This one is funny
04:50 OldCoder Got him
04:50 OldCoder leo thanks
04:50 OldCoder I will post shortly
04:50 leo_rockway why are you 2d?
04:50 OldCoder These are 2D avatars
04:51 OldCoder Not 3D
04:51 leo_rockway oh, okay
04:51 OldCoder I don't have 0.4.4 yet
04:51 OldCoder No LevelDB
04:51 leo_rockway alright
04:51 OldCoder Dogzilla
04:51 OldCoder made himself an avatar
04:51 OldCoder A scary one
04:51 OldCoder Boo!
04:51 leo_rockway what's LevelDB?
04:51 OldCoder A format that fixes the 4GB limit and is faster
04:51 OldCoder Also less corruption
04:51 leo_rockway alright
04:52 leo_rockway well, I'll leave now
04:52 OldCoder Want to
04:52 OldCoder see
04:52 OldCoder yourself?
04:52 OldCoder You can leave the game
04:52 OldCoder I mean a screenshot
04:52 leo_rockway yes, post the screenshots, hehe
04:52 OldCoder Sure
04:52 OldCoder Working
04:53 OldCoder http://minetest.org/dogshot.png
04:53 OldCoder Boo!
04:53 OldCoder ^ Screenshot
04:53 OldCoder
04:53 leo_rockway that's scary o.o
04:54 OldCoder Yep!
04:54 OldCoder Too much to take!
04:54 leo_rockway hehe
04:54 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ Danger!
04:54 VanessaE ?
04:55 OldCoder Dangerous character!
04:55 OldCoder http://minetest.org/dogshot.png
04:57 VanessaE heh
04:57 VanessaE weird is what it is :-)
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04:58 M13_ hello, all
05:01 OldCoder M13_, Hi
05:01 OldCoder VanessaE, As I understand it his name is S173
05:01 OldCoder and he is very dangerous
05:01 OldCoder O_O
05:02 VanessaE heh
05:02 OldCoder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r7bqdNyu80
05:02 OldCoder I have not seen that video
05:02 OldCoder It is said to feature our friend in action
05:04 M13_ im going to my Facebook cyah all
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05:15 kaeza hi
05:17 OldCoder kaeza, Hi back
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07:10 khonkhortisan my signs aren't weatherproof
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07:14 Aqua hi
07:14 khonkhortisan hello
07:14 VanessaE hi
07:15 khonkhortisan Know how to hide a railroad switch but have it still work?
07:15 VanessaE no clue
07:15 khonkhortisan I'm using two switches and a loop to make a one-way track and I don't want anyone switching it the wrong way
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07:16 VanessaE bury it one node deep and cover over it with leaves or junglegrass or so?
07:17 VanessaE will it still work then?
07:22 Aqua whats the previous stble version of minetest?
07:22 khonkhortisan is there a block that's all one color and doesn't have lines on the edges?
07:22 VanessaE khonkhortisan: homedecor curtains or large area rugs
07:23 VanessaE they tile fine but the game's lighting bugs make that a moot point
07:23 VanessaE (signlike and nodebox objects don't get smoothly lit as you know)
07:23 khonkhortisan I'm just trying to give the illusion of not moving between the slits
07:24 celeron55 http://fi2.eu.apcdn.com/full/63751.jpg
07:24 khonkhortisan (been afk)
07:24 VanessaE ah
07:24 VanessaE celeron55: epic :-)
07:24 khonkhortisan hahaha nice printer!
07:24 khonkhortisan it's better with the ad at the bottom
07:25 Aqua whats the previous stble version of minetest?
07:25 khonkhortisan 0.4.3?
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08:56 VanessaE morning Calinou
08:56 Calinou hi
09:01 * Calinou is playing some openarena
09:01 VanessaE cool
09:19 OldCoder Back!
09:19 OldCoder VanessaE, don't you need rest?
09:19 VanessaE good morning OC
09:19 OldCoder Hey
09:19 OldCoder <--- Can't sleep
09:19 VanessaE oh sure, but some nights (light tonight) I have to completely burn out before I can sleep.
09:19 OldCoder All right
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09:50 VanessaE hey Taoki.
09:50 Taoki hi
09:54 OldCoder Hi!
09:55 Calinou hi
09:57 OldCoder Calinou, gm
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10:20 Ragnar_ hi
10:21 Ragnar_ VanessaE hi :D
10:21 VanessaE hi
10:22 Ragnar_ :D
10:22 Ragnar_ hey can you help me with a mod?
10:22 VanessaE like what?
10:22 Ragnar_ it needs me to use NodeBoxes...
10:22 Ragnar_ but idk how to use them... :(
10:22 VanessaE drawtype = "nodebox",
10:22 Ragnar_ wait...
10:22 Ragnar_ opening Notepad++...wait a sec...
10:22 VanessaE in your register_node() call.
10:23 VanessaE then at the bottom of the call,
10:23 VanessaE node_box = {
10:23 VanessaE type = "fixed",
10:23 VanessaE fixed = {
10:23 VanessaE {x1,y1,z1,x2,y2,z2},
10:23 VanessaE {x1,y1,z1,x2,y2,z2},
10:23 VanessaE {x1,y1,z1,x2,y2,z2},
10:23 VanessaE .... for as many as you need
10:23 VanessaE }
10:23 VanessaE }
10:23 Ragnar_ do i first register a note or i just type draw="notebox" ,
10:24 Ragnar_ cause i want to make like doors, but just in a diffrent shape and they move diffrent too...
10:24 Ragnar_ and thats why i need that...
10:24 VanessaE x1,y1,z1 specify one corner of a nodebox, x2,y2,z2 specify the diagonally opposite corner, in 3d space, relative to the center of the node.  0,0,0 is center, -/+ 0.5 is the edges.
10:25 VanessaE all of this goes inside your register_node() call.
10:25 VanessaE for example,
10:25 VanessaE (pastebin in a sec..)
10:26 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/Z2yy5tZm
10:26 VanessaE ^^^ draws a simple little almost-cube-shaped object.
10:26 VanessaE it's the "small" speaker from home decor.
10:27 VanessaE more complex example:
10:27 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/cxRfsHSW
10:28 * Calinou tried to make some C++ fix to prevent head from shifting downwards when inside a nodebox/transparent block, and miserably failed again
10:28 VanessaE white glass-and-wood lattice door, but with the drop/after_dig_node/on_punch stuff stripped out (you don't need that yet)
10:28 VanessaE Calinou: if you can fix that I would be forever grateful
10:28 Ragnar_ xD
10:28 Ragnar_ NO PLEASE NO!!! im too young for complex coding... :(
10:28 VanessaE it's FUCKING ANNOYING. :-)
10:28 VanessaE Ragnar_: relax, "more complex" = "more nodeboxes in the node".
10:28 VanessaE nothing more than that.
10:28 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:29 Ragnar_ well a door doesnt need more noteboxes :D
10:29 Calinou it's actually very simple -- check if drawtype of a node is "normal" AND walkable, if it is both, then shift head downwards when inside block
10:29 Ragnar_ i think...
10:29 Ragnar_ and...it isn't a door...its a cell cage :D
10:29 Ragnar_ or a cell cage door...idk, im estonian :D
10:29 VanessaE Ragnar_: in the first pastebin example, you can see how I drew a single cuboid to make the speaker.  In the second example, you can see how I put several variously-sized nodeboxes together (one of which is actually 2d because z1=z2) to make a more detailed shape.
10:30 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:31 VanessaE Ragnar_: the 'selection box' line should be sized to cover the entire shape of the object you're creating.  If it's thin and tall, make the selection box fit it, etc.
10:31 Ragnar_ if im making a door-ish thing, do i need to put in the ..._top.png?
10:31 VanessaE same format as node boxes.
10:31 VanessaE no, not right away you don't.
10:31 VanessaE I'm just obsessive, so I texture all six directions/faces.
10:31 Ragnar_ tiles = {
10:31 Ragnar_ 'homedecor_speaker_top.png',
10:31 Ragnar_ 'homedecor_speaker_bottom.png',
10:31 VanessaE you can use just one or two if that is all you need.
10:31 Ragnar_ 'homedecor_speaker_right.png',
10:32 Ragnar_ those are starting from line 4...
10:32 VanessaE no, the _top, _bottom, etc. are just the filenames I used.  They can be anything you want.
10:32 Ragnar_ i know...
10:32 Ragnar_ but does a door need those ..._top and ..._bottom images+
10:32 VanessaE _top, _bottom, etc. have no meaning to the nodeboxes aside from making it easier for you to read your own code :D
10:32 Ragnar_ ?
10:33 VanessaE no.  Use as few or as many texture as you need (up to 6 of course) to get the job done.
10:33 VanessaE the simplest object could be textured with just one filename.
10:33 * Calinou got MT to build with an attempted fix
10:33 * OldCoder is asleep
10:33 VanessaE for example, those steel bars in 3dforniture?  I think those use only three textures.  They could just as easily use only one if the engine didn't have that nodebox lighting bug.
10:34 Ragnar_ hey vanessa...i have a problem with my minetest...i start it, and then the screen is white and the textboxes/buttons are black...
10:34 Ragnar_ why?
10:34 VanessaE no idea.  video driver bug probably?
10:34 VanessaE broken, corrupted, or missing video driver is my only guess
10:35 Ragnar_ ow...
10:35 VanessaE heh
10:35 VanessaE laptop ping'd out.
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10:35 Ragnar_ who was VanessaE[L]
10:35 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:35 VanessaE it must have finally shu....nope, there it is.
10:35 VanessaE Ragnar_: that's just my IRC client on my laptop in the other room.
10:35 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:38 Ragnar_ selection_box is the black outlines when you'r crosshair is over it?
10:40 VanessaE yep
10:40 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:41 Ragnar_ then the node_box is the model itself :D
10:41 Ragnar_ i need explanations :D
10:41 Ragnar_ sunlight_propagates
10:41 Ragnar_ tell me what does it mean...
10:41 VanessaE means sunlight will pass through to the nodes underneath/behind
10:42 Ragnar_ ow :d
10:42 Ragnar_ then its true...
10:42 Ragnar_ cause my door-ish thing is...i remembered :D cell bars :D
10:42 VanessaE true if you want the object to let light through, false if you want the object to be opaque.
10:42 VanessaE right
10:42 VanessaE so "true" in this case.
10:42 Ragnar_ paramtype
10:42 Ragnar_ yeah :D
10:42 Ragnar_ and paramtype2
10:42 Ragnar_ what do they do...
10:42 Calinou got it to work :D
10:42 * Calinou pull requests
10:42 VanessaE paramtype I always set to "light" because I don't use it.
10:43 Ragnar_ but what does it do?
10:43 VanessaE paramtype2 I usually set to 'facedir', which then makes param2 set the direction the object faces.
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10:43 Ragnar_ ow so i'll leave it like that?
10:43 VanessaE paramtype/paramtype2 tell the engine what the meaning is of the param and param2 variables.
10:43 Ragnar_ ow ok... :D
10:43 Ragnar_ ill leave it like that just in case...
10:43 VanessaE so if you set paramtype2 to "facedir", then param2 holds a value that equals the face direction of the object :-)
10:44 VanessaE I forget what other values those variables can take.
10:44 VanessaE wallmounted I think is one,
10:44 VanessaE for signs.
10:44 Ragnar_ wait...
10:44 Calinou looks like it fixes another collision bug related to wall stairs
10:44 VanessaE but in your case, you don't want that probably.
10:44 Ragnar_ a door is drawtype = "signlike"
10:45 VanessaE yes, a door usually is if it's 2D - unless you make it out of nodeboxes.
10:45 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:45 Ragnar_ well then its signlike :D
10:45 VanessaE when it's made of nodeboxes, the drawtype is nodebox :-)
10:45 VanessaE and signlike is meaningless then.
10:45 Ragnar_ ok :D
10:45 VanessaE Calinou: explain?
10:46 VanessaE Calinou: which collision bug?
10:46 Ragnar_ but in the doors/init.lua there isnt a paramtype...only paramtype2...
10:46 Ragnar_ why?
10:46 Calinou when you place wall stairs (from stairs+ mod), if you go "inside" them then try to go away you'll be stuck unless you turn around and press "forward"
10:46 VanessaE because I don't use it :-)
10:46 VanessaE I leave it at its default setting.
10:46 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:47 VanessaE Calinou: ah, haven't run into that one yet
10:47 Ragnar_ groups              = { choppy=2, dig_immediate=2 }
10:47 Ragnar_ whats this?
10:47 Ragnar_ ow and...how to convert sounds in to .ogg files?
10:47 Ragnar_ :D
10:48 Ragnar_ just asking...
10:48 ruskie get a wav and oggenc it
10:48 VanessaE Ragnar_: a groups= line specifies various special parameters, which depends on other mods to interpret.  Each is different.  In this case, it means that the object responds to tools that can cut "choppy" items.
10:48 VanessaE ogg files, you use an audio editor like audacity or whatever to save your sounds as ogg.
10:48 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:48 Ragnar_ cool :D
10:48 Ragnar_ hey can you do that for me?
10:48 VanessaE no :-)
10:48 Ragnar_ why?
10:49 Ragnar_ please :D
10:49 VanessaE because I'm too tired :-)
10:49 Ragnar_ 1 short sound :D
10:49 Ragnar_ not now...someday?
10:49 VanessaE oh sure, maybe
10:49 Ragnar_ yay :D
10:49 Ragnar_ wait...i'll need 2 short sounds...
10:49 VanessaE Calinou: nu, so where is this pull request, eppes? :-)
10:49 Ragnar_ 1. Cell Bars Opening ; 2. Bar Cells Being Hit...
10:49 ruskie Ragnar_, if you have the wavs you just need an oggencoder(on linux systems this is usually already included as oggenc)
10:50 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:50 VanessaE Ragnar_: start by looking on freesound.org - maybe the sounds you want to use already exist.  Pick one with a good license.
10:50 Ragnar_ and with RealConverter i can convert an .mp3 into a .wav :D
10:50 Ragnar_ ok :D
10:50 Ragnar_ but how do i make the node un-brakable?
10:51 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/310 < why do I have 6 commits and not one?
10:51 VanessaE don't put it in any digging groups
10:51 Calinou :<
10:51 VanessaE (no choppy, no cracky, etc)
10:51 Calinou Ragnar_: realconverter... facepalm
10:51 Ragnar_ xD
10:52 Calinou vlc can convert audio, amirite?
10:52 VanessaE Calinou: because you forgot to git pull before you started your patch.
10:52 Calinou clementine can, I know that
10:52 VanessaE vlc can I think yes.  mplayer/mencoder also.
10:52 Ragnar_ wait it can?
10:52 Calinou it's an awesome music player from windows/mac/linux :D
10:52 Ragnar_ WOW
10:52 Calinou for*
10:52 Ragnar_ thanks teacher :D
10:54 * Calinou pokes thexyz: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/310
10:54 VanessaE Calinou: afaik, only the one commit with the working code will end up being merged,
10:54 VanessaE but you should back out your changes and re-apply them against a fresh git master
10:54 VanessaE just to avoid the excess commits :-)
10:54 VanessaE otherwise PilzAdam will kick your ass :D
10:56 Calinou ok, third and last attempt
11:00 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/311 there :D
11:01 VanessaE much better :D
11:01 VanessaE oh that's truly sad
11:01 VanessaE all that trouble for a one-line fix
11:01 VanessaE :)
11:02 Calinou C++ level increased by 1. Total (3)
11:04 VanessaE heh
11:04 VanessaE now let's see how long it goes before someone merges it :-)
11:07 * Calinou seen this screenshot in the "fix fullscreen not working" pull request: http://ompldr.org/vZ2QyZg
11:07 Calinou someone's trying to code with MS word :P
11:07 Calinou and... internet exploder
11:09 ruskie people do crazy things each and every day
11:09 Kray what makes you believe he is trying to code with MS Word?
11:10 Kray it being open doesn't mean he uses it for coding
11:10 Kray nor having IE available not even running means actually using it
11:15 Calinou Kray: I know :P
11:15 Calinou he's using VS
11:20 VanessaE to be fair, I've used Abiword once or twice to write code, though I don't remember now why I did that :-)
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12:24 VanessaE ok, time to sleep.  night all.
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12:51 NekoGloop VanessaE[L]: Problems with internets, or laptop just being iffy? :3
12:53 ruskie she's asleep
12:54 NekoGloop What makes you think that?
12:54 NekoGloop If it was an autojoin it wouldnt have taken as long.
12:56 ruskie [13:24:45] <VanessaE> ok, time to sleep.  night all.
12:56 ruskie and it's now 13:56
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13:24 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:25 NakedFury hi o/
13:28 jin_xi hi adam
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13:29 NekoGloop Meow :3
13:35 PilzAdam according to this i will merge the new doors mod: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53840
13:39 ruskie mmm that sounds nice
13:39 ruskie I want locked doors
13:40 thexyz anyone willing to help? http://wapi.minetest.ru/
13:45 PilzAdam merged
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14:28 sfan5 new minetest build!
14:29 sfan5 http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-655bb52-win32.7z
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16:01 OldCoder babyface1031, Hey
16:07 Taoki redcrab: poke (and hi)
16:09 babyface1031 hey OldCoder
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16:15 OldCoder Jordach, Good afternoon
16:15 Jordach hello OldCoder
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16:16 OldCoder VanessaE, Good morning to you
16:18 Jordach good afternoon Taoki
16:18 Taoki hi
16:19 Taoki redcrab: Just letting you know 3D players are upstream for a few days. So maybe you can update your server and minetest_game so they will work there too :) I think we checked last night and no 3D players on your server yet.
16:19 Taoki **since a few days
16:19 Jordach Taoki - we need connected textures
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16:20 Taoki connected textures?
16:20 Jordach google it
16:20 Taoki ah, that would be nice
16:20 Jordach http://imgur.com/a/bP0Xy
16:21 Jordach or look at these, the mc clone of 64dots supports it
16:22 Taoki yeah, would be nice. Don't think I can help there sadly
16:22 Taoki Need to go now also, brb in 2 hours or so
16:22 OldCoder c u
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16:23 Jordach hello Calinou
16:25 Jordach anyone here got a 3d player server?
16:25 Calinou hi
16:25 PilzAdam Jordach, minetest.ru:12345 has 3D players
16:25 Jordach latest git too?
16:26 PilzAdam it was updated yesterdy
16:26 * Calinou bets 1 mese it's empty
16:26 * Calinou seen this in git log:
16:26 Calinou Author: Calinou <calinou9999spam@gmail.com>
16:26 Calinou Date:   Wed Nov 28 11:59:19 2012 +0100
16:26 Calinou Fix head shifting downards in glass, nodeboxes...
16:26 Calinou WOO :D
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16:27 Jordach :D
16:27 Calinou my fix got comitted :)
16:27 Calinou going to add this to changelog
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16:27 * Jordach is unzipping the git
16:32 jin_xi ok, painting mod fixed... seems some other stuff defines its own variable colors. duh
16:33 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x-changelog.txt link to latest changelog
16:33 Calinou now that is a big changelog :>
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16:35 PilzAdam Calinou, whats about animated fire?
16:36 PilzAdam also new locked steel doors added
16:37 Calinou ah yeah, forgot about these
16:38 Calinou PilzAdam: you should commit your mod that destroys items in lava, imo
16:38 Calinou and pushes items in water (if it doesn't eat too much resources)
16:39 PilzAdam the water thing is a hack
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16:40 Calinou well then, commit the part of builtin_item that destroys items in lava :)
16:40 PilzAdam Calinou, you should update the brick texture in the minetest wiki
16:40 * Calinou needs to install blender first :)
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17:08 hmmmm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKLrj3UFqQI
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17:36 Calinou PilzAdam: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/59 *poke* :)
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17:36 Calinou (this also fixes inconsistency in spacing :P)
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17:38 PilzAdam any PVP server with this?
17:38 Calinou no, i just spent 20 minutes trying a lot of values around :P
17:38 PilzAdam this need to be tested
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17:39 pskosinski konichiwa!
17:40 PilzAdam Guten Tag!
17:40 * OldCoder is AFK briefly on an errand
17:40 OldCoder Hi
17:41 Calinou idea: i'll host a server for the lulz, then OldCoder, PilzAdam and others can come play :)
17:41 Calinou 80.118.209.33 port 30000
17:43 Calinou restarted
17:43 Calinou i didn't have any privs :p
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17:48 pskosinski Are there many differences between 3 and 4.3 version?
17:49 pskosinski 0.3, 0.4
17:49 PilzAdam umm, yes
17:50 pskosinski ah, nvm >.> to install mods I woul dneed 4.3 anyway…
17:50 pskosinski would need
17:50 pskosinski Debian as always outdated as hell
17:50 PilzAdam c55 just said 0.4.4 will be released soon
17:50 PilzAdam if you are on Linux compile yourself
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17:52 Calinou pskosinski: loldebian
17:52 Calinou there is no 0.4.x, even in debian unstable/ubuntu anyway :P
17:52 pskosinski yes
17:53 PilzAdam Calinou, what do you think of increasing the damage that the steel sword kills with 2-3 hits?
17:55 PilzAdam If you carry apples while fighting you are currently unbreakable
17:55 Calinou what when you run out of apples? :p
17:55 Calinou also, to have a lot of apples, it takes time
17:56 Calinou no apples on trees generated by map
17:56 PilzAdam true
17:56 Calinou weapon damage shouldn't be too high, don't make minetest minecraft :p
17:56 PilzAdam what about bread if it gets added to upstream?
17:56 Calinou (it used to be really high in MC: diamond sword did 5.5 hearts)
17:56 pskosinski Are there bananas?
17:56 Calinou in mods, yes
17:56 Calinou let's add bananas that kill in one hit
17:56 Calinou :D
17:57 PilzAdam Calinou, MT will never be like MC because it has full_punch_interval
17:57 pskosinski banana-boomerangs
17:57 Calinou we need some eating time/delay then
17:57 Calinou give health progressively after eating food
17:57 Calinou (delay should be configurable of course)
17:59 pskosinski Can someone remind me how to make makefile? ^^
18:01 Calinou cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE
18:01 Calinou run this in minetest's folder
18:01 Calinou cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
18:01 Calinou oops
18:01 pskosinski ty
18:01 Calinou run in place puts config files in minetest's folder, not your home .minetest folder
18:01 pskosinski ok, thanks :)
18:02 PilzAdam alias minemake = "make . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 && make -j16"
18:02 PilzAdam thats what i use
18:02 pskosinski 16 O.O
18:03 hmmmm i do 16 as well
18:03 PilzAdam i have 8 cores
18:03 hmmmm CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 V2 @ 3.30GHz (3292.60-MHz K8-class CPU)
18:03 Calinou PilzAdam: you need to cd src first
18:03 Calinou hmmmm: price? :p
18:03 PilzAdam no
18:03 hmmmm $240
18:03 Calinou huh
18:04 Calinou 8 core CPU for $240? hax
18:04 hmmmm hyperthreading
18:04 Calinou so you have 4 core
18:04 * Jordach does a make -j16 on a p4
18:04 Calinou and you should use -j8 not -j16
18:04 hmmmm it's basically an i7-3770 without intergrated graphics
18:04 hmmmm no, you should do twice the number of cores/threads/whatever
18:04 Jordach and the bullshit
18:04 hmmmm to make sure all threads are saturated
18:04 Calinou yes, and it has four physical cores
18:04 Calinou and 8 virtual cores
18:04 Calinou thus: -j8
18:04 Calinou uses 100% CPU on my computer
18:04 Calinou i7 2600k
18:05 hmmmm well that's not the point
18:05 hmmmm i don't really think it makes too much of a difference
18:05 hmmmm it depends on your OS's scheduler
18:07 pskosinski errors, errors everywhere…
18:07 hmmmm aerror!  aerror!
18:07 hmmmm pskosinski, i bet the problem is that you didn't remove CMakeCache.txt
18:08 hmmmm remove all 'CMake' files except for the cmake directory and CMakeLists.txt
18:09 pskosinski no, screw it, will download package ^^
18:10 Calinou pskosinski: did you install deps
18:10 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837 try this, too :D
18:13 thexyz why do you `cd src`?
18:13 pskosinski I didn't have one dependency. :x
18:13 pskosinski libopneal-dev …
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18:14 thexyz lol @ search bar http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/Picture%201.png
18:14 Calinou someone's googling how to screenshot on a mac
18:14 PilzAdam heh
18:14 Jordach trololololololololololololololololol
18:14 Calinou lolfirefox
18:14 Jordach lolChromium
18:15 Calinou someone's looking at the cost of pennies
18:19 thexyz any suggestions for http://wapi.minetest.ru/ logo?
18:19 thexyz (this site will replace current http://api.minetest.net/ one day, I hope)
18:19 PilzAdam default minetest logo?
18:19 john_minetest http://minetest.net/images/minetest-icon-120.png
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18:21 Calinou I like the logo from the minetest.net proposal, it has better shadows :P
18:21 Jordach http://c55.me/~celeron55/random/2012-11/mods/
18:21 Jordach huh, some mods and TNT
18:21 PilzAdam blockmobs is realy interesting
18:22 OldCoder thexyz, I'll seek your advice in a few minutes
18:22 Jordach anyone ere got latest git server?
18:22 Jordach (bar minetest.ru)
18:25 iqualfragile joined #minetest
18:26 thexyz bar?
18:27 Penguin joined #minetest
18:27 Jordach bar == not
18:28 thexyz oh, right, nobody loves minetest.ru
18:28 PilzAdam I do
18:28 OldCoder It is wonderful
18:29 PilzAdam but it doesnt make sense to join a empty server to see 3D models
18:29 OldCoder I will update when I can
18:29 OldCoder That is the plan
18:29 OldCoder Of 3D I'm a fan
18:29 OldCoder Folks
18:29 Calinou PilzAdam: code third person, ???, PROFIT
18:30 * PilzAdam has low c++ skills
18:30 * Calinou does too
18:31 mauvebic i can screw around with the mapgen and the c++ mapper source but thats about it lol
18:32 marktraceur OldCoder: You're gett'n' all dissed by the man, ride in a van, you couldn't walk so you just ran, getting a tan, m-fers over in Afghanistan, into the frying pan, not just a <div> but a <span>, maybe we'll play over LAN, so long as we don't use FORTRAN.
18:32 * marktraceur drops mic
18:33 marktraceur (not because I just schooled you, but to prevent further ear-bleeding)
18:33 OldCoder marktraceur, that is cool for school
18:33 OldCoder You rule!
18:33 OldCoder You no fool you are cool thank you sir for school
18:35 marktraceur "ool" is less easy to rhyme
18:37 KikaRz joined #minetest
18:37 john_minetest even with a cool "ool" rhyme, no one ever earns a dime.
18:38 KikaRz Hi there! Im back... not for too long
18:38 KikaRz im in another computer
18:38 KikaRz minetest has been updated?
18:38 PilzAdam updated ?= developed
18:42 OldCoder KikaRz, M13 has provided me with the pass. So I'm partly maintaining that server now.
18:42 marktraceur KikaRz: YOU'RE IN A COMPUTER!? HANG ON WE'LL SAVE YOU!
18:42 KikaRz OldCoder
18:42 OldCoder KikaRz, also; I apologize but the other other day was pretty busy. May I see the link to your avatar again?
18:42 KikaRz ... marktraceur, take me out of this fucking country
18:42 KikaRz OldCoder, Its not ROOT
18:42 neko259 joined #minetest
18:42 KikaRz its MINETEST
18:42 KikaRz the user
18:42 * marktraceur dashes to the batmobile to rescue KikaRz
18:42 OldCoder KikaRz, Not following
18:43 OldCoder KikaRz, Link your avatar again when you can
18:43 KikaRz OldCoder, im sending now
18:43 KikaRz OldCoder, use the user "minetest" to enter the server
18:43 OldCoder KikaRz, I already have the pass
18:43 OldCoder He passed on the pass yesterday
18:44 rsiska joined #minetest
18:44 KikaRz I know the pass
18:44 KikaRz that you have it
18:44 KikaRz but do not use ROOT
18:44 KikaRz use minetest
18:45 OldCoder KikaRz, I am not following
18:45 OldCoder KikaRz, Link your avatar again when you can
18:45 KikaRz ...
18:45 KikaRz stop spamming
18:45 OldCoder D:
18:45 OldCoder That is "flooding" young lady
18:45 OldCoder Not "spamming"
18:45 OldCoder Get your terminology right
18:45 KikaRz Or that
18:45 KikaRz The same.
18:45 KikaRz SPAM = Flood
18:45 * OldCoder sighs
18:45 OldCoder It is not.
18:45 Jordach oh wait, i ignored kika
18:45 KikaRz Flood = Multiple Messages
18:45 marktraceur OldCoder: I believe KikaRz wants you to log in to a server with the username "minetest" and a password already determined at an earlier date
18:45 KikaRz Jordach, you can't ignore.
18:46 OldCoder marktraceur, KikaRz is out of sync. It is, or was, M13 server. I helped him set it up.
18:46 * marktraceur sings spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spammity spam, wonderful spam
18:46 OldCoder Yum
18:46 KikaRz https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_?m
18:46 KikaRz https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_?m
18:46 KikaRz https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_?m
18:46 KikaRz Ups
18:46 OldCoder Reviewing
18:46 KikaRz Dropbox sent 3 links in a row.
18:46 KikaRz OldCoder, i guess the 3d dont works :(
18:46 KikaRz and the skins arent black
18:46 OldCoder It will
18:46 KikaRz in the transparent
18:47 OldCoder KikaRz, that is a 3D skin
18:47 OldCoder If you make a 2D one let me know
18:47 KikaRz Not the 3d that im saying
18:47 OldCoder I am presently adding those
18:47 KikaRz i did a 2d and a 3d in the folders
18:47 KikaRz *folder
18:47 OldCoder Ah
18:47 OldCoder I see her
18:47 OldCoder She looks tough!
18:47 OldCoder I will add her
18:47 KikaRz tough?
18:47 KikaRz o-o
18:48 OldCoder Like Sigourney Weaver in Aliens
18:48 OldCoder It is a compliment
18:48 OldCoder She will be added shortly
18:48 Calinou HOWTO: look cool after insulting someone
18:48 Calinou say it is a compliment
18:48 OldCoder ???
18:48 Calinou :)
18:48 OldCoder Calinou, that was sincere
18:48 OldCoder Don't make trouble
18:49 Calinou i know, was joking :P
18:49 Calinou gtg now
18:49 OldCoder c u
18:49 OldCoder KikaRz, is your nick KikaRz in the game?
18:49 KikaRz Yes
18:49 OldCoder k
18:50 KikaRz OldCoder
18:50 KikaRz Im without computer net
18:50 OldCoder Yes?
18:50 KikaRz *now
18:50 OldCoder k
18:50 KikaRz Im not in a computer but yes
18:50 KikaRz in a Tablet
18:50 KikaRz *-*
18:50 KikaRz love tablets...
18:50 KikaRz specially: CHOCOLATE ONES...
18:50 khonkhortisan hey, someone killed me last night!
18:50 KikaRz that big small pieces of chocolate...
18:51 * KikaRz sees khonkhortisan's soul...
18:51 * KikaRz smiles...
18:51 khonkhortisan before the server restarted
18:51 KikaRz it was me :P
18:51 KikaRz kidding
18:51 KikaRz hate my foot.
18:51 KikaRz just for walk...
18:51 KikaRz at the end of day:
18:51 khonkhortisan well I was unnaturally floating in the air
18:52 KikaRz STATUS OF FOOT: SMELLS PRETTY NICE!
18:52 khonkhortisan so feet have social networking now
18:52 OldCoder She looks good
18:52 KikaRz yes.
18:52 KikaRz me? *--*
18:52 OldCoder The avatar
18:52 KikaRz oh
18:53 KikaRz Yes.
18:53 KikaRz Its the avatar that i use all the time
18:53 KikaRz i got more 2 types of avatars...
18:53 OldCoder I am sure you look good too but we cannot see you
18:53 OldCoder What are the others?
18:53 KikaRz One with a cap...
18:53 KikaRz and other with headphones
18:53 KikaRz but minetest dont lets that
18:54 marktraceur ....
18:55 KikaRz marktraceur, you are now:
18:55 KikaRz marktraceur, you are now:
18:55 KikaRz Fail
18:56 marktraceur KikaRz: What am I?
18:57 KikaRz I dont know.
18:57 KikaRz a fail?
18:57 KikaRz :P
18:57 marktraceur KikaRz: Sometimes, yes.
18:57 KikaRz <KikaRz> marktraceur, you are now:
18:57 KikaRz <KikaRz> Fail
18:57 * marktraceur loves the disparity between channels
18:57 marktraceur In here, most of the messages are on the left side of my screen
18:57 babyface1031 joined #minetest
18:57 marktraceur Most other channels I'm in have text along the entire screen
18:57 marktraceur It's rather fascinating
18:58 Penguin joined #minetest
18:58 OldCoder Penguin, Hi
18:58 OldCoder Penguin, I am working on it
18:58 Penguin On ?
18:58 OldCoder What you asked for
18:59 Penguin Oh :) When will it be done any idears
18:59 OldCoder Penguin, I thought it *was* done
18:59 Penguin hey babyface
18:59 OldCoder So I cannot say
18:59 OldCoder Patience is a Penguin Virtue
18:59 KikaRz hi there penguin
18:59 Penguin hi
19:00 KikaRz Microsoft Word 2007 in my computer:
19:00 Penguin Its Not On  Mod list coder
19:00 KikaRz how much time takes to enter?
19:00 KikaRz Who knows?
19:00 Penguin 1hour
19:00 Penguin hehe
19:00 KikaRz nope
19:00 KikaRz minus
19:01 KikaRz 5 min.
19:01 marktraceur KikaRz: Are you trying to tell us that it takes -5 minutes to install MS Word?
19:01 Penguin haha
19:02 babyface1031 hey
19:03 Penguin u back on server
19:03 babyface1031 yes
19:03 OldCoder Penguin, which world are you trying to use Desert Uses in?
19:03 Penguin 30004
19:03 OldCoder k
19:03 Penguin Has U Shut Server Down ?
19:03 OldCoder No
19:04 KikaRz No
19:04 OldCoder You are there
19:04 Penguin okay its cos it would ent connect
19:04 KikaRz To Install Word = 5 hours.
19:04 KikaRz To initialize it: 17 minetes.
19:04 KikaRz *minutes
19:04 KikaRz i was thinking in minetest
19:04 marktraceur Plus signing that devil-contract, which takes at least five seconds for most people
19:05 Penguin need to restart cp
19:05 KikaRz cp = club penguin? O_o'
19:06 marktraceur Probably a typo for "PC"
19:07 KikaRz cp = club penguin
19:07 KikaRz pc = personal computer / portable computer
19:07 KikaRz 2 completely different things
19:08 KikaRz going to put a virus in school
19:08 KikaRz to install linux in all computers
19:08 KikaRz :P
19:08 marktraceur KikaRz: It would probably be more useful if you also installed GNU on them, but if you think that's best
19:09 KikaRz gnu = ?
19:09 KikaRz ah
19:09 KikaRz maybe
19:09 KikaRz i dislike that school computers
19:09 KikaRz i need to present a work
19:09 KikaRz to 10,422 people.
19:11 KikaRz byeneed to turn off tablet
19:14 OldCoder
19:14 OldCoder U.S. worlds are going down briefly for updates and tests
19:14 OldCoder babyface1031, see above
19:15 babyface1031 ok i will tell penguin
19:15 OldCoder babyface1031, tell him
19:15 OldCoder He is getting the mod he wishes
19:15 khonkhortisan ugh if I don't put dirt under the rail the cart bobs up and down and I miss frames of the slit animation thing
19:15 babyface1031 ok i told him ready to go
19:15 OldCoder Allow about 5 minutes
19:16 OldCoder I am experimenting
19:16 OldCoder babyface1031, do me a small favor
19:16 OldCoder Join 30000
19:16 babyface1031 ok
19:16 OldCoder and see if things work there
19:16 babyface1031 now or after updates
19:16 OldCoder babyface1031, Do you have interact there?
19:16 OldCoder Now
19:16 OldCoder I will restart all worlds
19:16 OldCoder after testing 30000
19:17 babyface1031 idk if i do or not i will head there now
19:17 OldCoder k
19:17 babyface1031 no privs
19:17 babyface1031 lot of unknown blocks
19:17 OldCoder Yep
19:18 OldCoder Something broken
19:18 OldCoder Thanks
19:18 OldCoder I will restart other worlds now
19:19 babyface1031 thats all or you need me to try other stuff
19:19 OldCoder That is all
19:19 OldCoder Thanks
19:19 babyface1031 np
19:20 OldCoder babyface1031, Tell Penguin to try Desert Uses now
19:20 babyface1031 ok
19:22 babyface1031 is the sever back up?
19:24 babyface1031 OldCoder have you seen the log there is alot of errors
19:25 Penguin joined #minetest
19:25 OldCoder Penguin, Yes
19:25 Penguin hi
19:25 OldCoder I am shutting down and working on it
19:26 babyface1031 hi
19:26 Penguin You have :D
19:26 OldCoder Yes
19:26 OldCoder Proceeding
19:26 OldCoder Shutting down
19:26 Penguin :)
19:26 Penguin We need 3d players on minetest
19:26 Penguin dont we
19:27 marktraceur Penguin: We have them!
19:27 Penguin do we
19:27 OldCoder Anybody want more mods?
19:27 OldCoder Now is the time to ask!
19:27 OldCoder Or more 2D avatars
19:27 Penguin urm 1 sec
19:27 OldCoder Who wants one?
19:27 khonkhortisan My rail-powered animation is finished, in stunning 1.3 frames per second!
19:28 babyface1031 i good i have all i like unless there is one for a fully clear glass
19:28 babyface1031 no lines nothing
19:28 Penguin Jungle trees http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2887
19:30 Penguin OldCoder
19:30 OldCoder Penguin, see Vanessa. That one is High CPU
19:30 OldCoder But thank you
19:31 Penguin okay wait
19:31 marktraceur OldCoder: I could suggest transactors and the rest of the industry pack, but I'm not actually playing on your server :)
19:31 OldCoder Who would like a 2D avatar?
19:31 OldCoder marktraceur, Are transactors lightweight and safe?
19:31 OldCoder Link?
19:31 OldCoder BTW I have about 20 servers
19:31 marktraceur OldCoder: They're basically as heavy as a furnace, seems mostly OK
19:32 OldCoder Does anybody else plan to use them?
19:32 marktraceur OldCoder: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804
19:32 OldCoder ty
19:32 Penguin use what
19:32 OldCoder Transactors
19:32 marktraceur OldCoder: I don't know if they're in anyone's plans. I also plan to finish my factory mod soon-ish and release the entire pack with more pizazz
19:32 OldCoder 2D avatars are available. Nobody wants one? All right.
19:33 OldCoder Worlds going down again
19:33 OldCoder Penguin, you should have Desert Uses
19:33 Penguin yay
19:34 Penguin http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=508 coder
19:34 OldCoder What is it?
19:34 TForsman hows compability for minetest 0.4.4 against mods?  should work fine? most of the mods?
19:34 OldCoder I have not tested
19:34 Penguin its a mod and baby it has clear glass
19:35 OldCoder Penguin, ask her and others to review that
19:35 OldCoder Is it lightweight and safe?
19:35 Penguin Dont matter atchualy
19:35 OldCoder Why not?
19:36 anunakki joined #minetest
19:36 Penguin Becuse it use to be on server and then it went
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19:36 babyface1031 yeah we have clean glass already it just still has the lines on the outside
19:36 * Penguin Orders Pizza
19:36 babyface1031 and everything in that mod we can already make so it would be useless
19:37 VanessaE hi all
19:37 babyface1031 hi VanessaE
19:37 * Penguin Wondering when it will get to noth pole
19:38 * Penguin Stutters
19:39 * Penguin forgot to pick cousin up from school Ops
19:39 ruskie rofl
19:40 * Penguin wondering if server is back up
19:41 * Penguin Gave Pizza Man Wrong Address
19:41 marktraceur Penguin: http://identi.ca is where you should be
19:42 * Penguin Is Stumped
19:43 Penguin Coder?
19:43 Penguin *OldCoder
19:43 Penguin *@OldCoder
19:44 VanessaE so what's news? :-)
19:44 Penguin Scobby doo
19:44 * Penguin Chukkles
19:45 VanessaE *mumble*
19:45 Penguin *Mumble
19:45 thexyz VanessaE: http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page
19:46 Penguin babyface1031! Is Server Up
19:46 VanessaE thexyz: not bad
19:47 babyface1031 marktraceur does the industry pack work with the technic furance and grinder or just the normal coal powered furnace
19:47 OldCoder Penguin, I am updating again
19:47 Penguin Updating To What
19:48 marktraceur babyface1031: Only chest, furnace, and rubber_collector are handled thus far....but I'd be happy to add more handlers, it wouldn't break anything
19:48 Penguin http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page look at views on page when i tell you refress
19:48 babyface1031 i was looking at it it looks neat
19:48 marktraceur babyface1031: My priority is still adding factories, but if you add a note in the forum post about technic furnace and grinder, and as many technical details as you can, I'll add it soon
19:48 marktraceur (probably this weekend in all likelihood)
19:49 Penguin refress
19:49 Penguin Boosting views  on page much lol
19:49 babyface1031 what will the factories doo
19:49 Penguin Updating To What
19:50 Penguin @OldCoder ?
19:50 OldCoder Penguin, wait please
19:50 OldCoder Fixing things now
19:50 Penguin oh i understand read it propley
19:52 OldCoder Penguin, D: be polite
19:52 OldCoder I did read it "propley"
19:52 OldCoder I am too busy to respond ATM
19:52 OldCoder That is what I meant
19:52 Penguin No i dident read it propley i ment
19:52 Penguin sorry
19:52 OldCoder Ah
19:52 OldCoder Sure
19:52 OldCoder np
19:53 * Penguin Likes Laughing
19:53 OldCoder That is good
19:53 babyface1031 why was technic mod removed?
19:53 OldCoder Penguin, which Darket mod are you suggesting?
19:53 Penguin What ?
19:53 OldCoder babyface1031, it was not
19:53 OldCoder babyface1031, wait
19:54 OldCoder Penguin, you linked:
19:54 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=508
19:54 babyface1031 in the forums it is
19:54 OldCoder Which mod are you requesting?
19:54 OldCoder babyface1031, that is odd
19:54 VanessaE babyface1031: it was removed from the forum because RealBadAngel had a hissy fit :-)
19:54 OldCoder VanessaE, he is a valued contributo
19:54 OldCoder r
19:54 VanessaE he got upset ad the way things are moving and not.
19:54 mauvebic i guess fall season does that people lol
19:54 babyface1031 oh
19:54 OldCoder Penguin, which Darket mod are you suggesting?
19:54 VanessaE OldCoder: he and I still talk.  I've been testing his unified creative inventory branch
19:54 OldCoder VanessaE, all right
19:55 OldCoder VanessaE, I haven't seen him recently; tell him I'd like to have him around
19:55 OldCoder He is a stabilizing force
19:55 VanessaE he just doesn't get on channel for now - he's pissed at celeron55.
19:55 babyface1031 OldCoder the mod you are asking about i dont see any use for it everthing in it we can already make now that we have the desert mod
19:55 OldCoder babyface1031, ty
19:55 OldCoder babyface1031, tell him
19:55 babyface1031 Penguin the mod you are asking about i dont see any use for it everthing in it we can already make now that we have the desert mod
19:56 Penguin yay it dont matter oldcoder
19:56 OldCoder k
19:56 mauvebic finished my guns'n'turrets (http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1598) lemme know whadda think
19:57 Jordach hey mauvebic
19:57 mauvebic sup
19:57 VanessaE hey mauvebic.
19:58 Jordach mauvebic - could you send me a zipball of your world + mods, i'd love to see it
19:58 mauvebic the turrets dont shoot on their owners, dont destroy nodes. plasma rifles destroy nodes, entities and players
19:58 Jordach wait, you made a dm cannon?
19:58 mauvebic more like those plasma guns from the movies but yeah
19:58 OldCoder babyface1031, try the world now
19:59 babyface1031 ok
19:59 VanessaE mauvebic: what, no railgun?  no BFG?  :D
19:59 mauvebic they're rapid-fire too
19:59 mauvebic bfg?
19:59 OldCoder All the U.S. worlds should be back. Desert Uses is in. Kika* has her new 2D avatar.
19:59 VanessaE mauvebic: "Big Fucking Gun", most powerful weapon in Quake/OpenArena
20:00 OldCoder Doom too
20:00 mauvebic would if i could, pretty limited by bullets hitting node.name == 'ignore' :/
20:00 marktraceur VanessaE: Have you seen the Doom movie? That scene was probably the best.
20:00 PilzAdam gtg; bye
20:00 VanessaE no, I have not.  I'm not into those sorts of movies actually.
20:00 Jordach mauvebic - when you've got the BFG 9000, it makes pvp no fun
20:01 marktraceur VanessaE: Honestly, it's 90% game humour from my recollection. But I may be misremembering.
20:01 mauvebic well the mininuke and blaster rifles are missing, but those do *alot* of dammage lol
20:01 Jordach mauvebic, the nuke effect was awesome
20:01 mauvebic yeah but it depends on a mod im still werking on
20:01 mauvebic and cant figure out what fire to use
20:02 mauvebic oh but theres a compressed water gun that does work, to fight fires or grief with lol
20:05 celeron55 FYI: 0.4.4 will be released next week
20:06 marktraceur celeron55: Will that include windows builds on minetest.net?
20:07 TForsman hows compatibility for mods against 0.4.4 ?
20:07 celeron55 of course
20:07 celeron55 TForsman: should be no problems whatsoever
20:07 john_minetest 0.4.4! yeah!
20:07 TForsman thanks, will update through git for now for foresight users :)
20:08 MiJyn you know what's ironic? I never downloaded minetest since celeron55 released 0.4 stable
20:08 celeron55 0.4.3 clients aren't and won't be able to connect to 0.4.4, unless i happen to feel like doing that as a challenge
20:08 marktraceur Official-sauce announce came out! Woo, I can share my server!
20:08 marktraceur http://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2012/fall/new-libreplanet-gaming-server-running-minetest
20:08 VanessaE brb
20:10 TForsman celeron55: do you know when that happened? Which commit that made it unable to use 0.4.3 for 0.4.4. As we always update from git, from time to time
20:12 celeron55 TForsman: the 3D players - it's a large bunch of commits. a 0.4.4 client can connect to a 0.4.3 server however
20:12 celeron55 and will be definitely so at release too
20:13 TForsman ahh, thats good. then I dont have any big issues if it still works against 0.4.3 servers
20:15 celeron55 marktraceur: altough i generally don't respect fsf, i like it that people find use for the software and form communities like that 8) hopefully that will return some useful input to minetest itself too
20:16 marktraceur celeron55: I agree! I think we should be able to help funnel some of the interest into modding and contributing back to core.
20:16 marktraceur celeron55: Not to mention playing and contributing to other games--we're hoping to launch an OpenArena server, I think, plus maybe a HedgeWars server
20:17 marktraceur I looked into Ryzom, but it's a hell of a difficult game to set up.
20:26 babyface1031 OldCoder did you delete trashcan mod
20:30 john_minetest is it possible to run a server with 2d players and version 0.4.4?
20:30 Jordach yes
20:30 Jordach remove the model
20:31 john_minetest okay. just because of the bandwith... some servers are busy enough managing 2d players :p
20:32 OldCoder babyface1031, yes. I was told it messes up textures.
20:32 babyface1031 ok
20:32 OldCoder It was Doc, Dogzilla, or Penguin
20:32 OldCoder Is anybody able to comment?
20:32 OldCoder Is Trash safe to use?
20:33 OldCoder babyface1031, review this and get back to me if you
20:33 OldCoder I will restore Trash if it is safe
20:33 babyface1031 i didnt see any texture problem besides it looks like a nyan cat
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20:37 OldCoder Is anybody where who is familiar with Zeg9 world?
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20:42 Octupus hola
20:42 VanessaE back.
20:43 Octupus hi vanessae
20:43 VanessaE john_minetest: or just run 0.4.3 - 0.4.4 clients can still connect and play :-_)
20:43 VanessaE :-)
20:43 Octupus we have 4.4 now :0
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20:48 KikaRz Adverstiment of KikooBot: 22 and 23 December, Enkai will be realized in Castelo Branco, Portugal; Price: 1 day - 1.5 enkais (euros) / 2 days - 2 enkais (euros)
20:48 KikaRz Cool, my bot works
20:49 babyface1031 VanessaE in your home decor mod it has white paint being able to you leaves instead of jungle grass but it dont seem to work
20:50 KikaRz So, if you want to appear go onto Cine Teatro Avenida , Castelo Branco, Portugal
20:50 KikaRz day 22 and 23 December :P
20:50 OldCoder KikaRz, your avatar is in the U.S. worlds
20:50 OldCoder KikaRz, come and visit; let me screenshot you
20:50 OldCoder Choose one of the worlds and drop by
20:51 KikaRz OldCoder
20:51 KikaRz I can't enter.
20:51 KikaRz I'm in a computer that neither supports D3D neither OpenGL
20:51 KikaRz *-*
20:51 KikaRz love this shit because got linux.
20:51 VanessaE babyface1031: maybe some other mod is blocking that recipe?
20:51 VanessaE I know I tested it
20:51 KikaRz but my graphics card dont works
20:52 babyface1031 oh :(
20:52 OldCoder KikaRz, Sorry to hear it
20:52 KikaRz Can you login with my nick?
20:52 OldCoder Would somebody else like to enter 30007 as KikaRz ? I will reset password after
20:52 KikaRz just reset my pw
20:52 OldCoder Yes
20:52 OldCoder Somebody come to 30007 and be KikaRz please
20:52 OldCoder I will screenshot
20:52 KikaRz I can enter
20:52 KikaRz but with a LOOOT OF LAG
20:53 KikaRz but disconnect that person again
20:53 OldCoder Yes
20:53 KikaRz and put pw to the other that i was having
20:53 babyface1031 the only other mod with white paint is the dyes
20:54 babyface1031 i wonder what mod is blocking it then
20:54 KikaRz but its working oldcoder?
20:54 KikaRz which one? 3d or 2d?
20:54 OldCoder It should be
20:54 OldCoder I need somebody to visit 30007 as you
20:55 KikaRz I can enter
20:55 KikaRz but with al ot of lag
20:55 john_minetest OldCoder: I am familiar with Zeg9's world
20:55 OldCoder john_minetest, Yes... Speak briefly of what it is. I am editing my own description.
20:55 OldCoder Thank you
20:55 OldCoder KikaRz, let me know when you are there
20:55 KikaRz IP?
20:55 KikaRz minetest.org ?
20:55 OldCoder yes 30007
20:55 KikaRz minetest.org:30007?
20:55 OldCoder Yes
20:56 OldCoder Just for a couple of minutes
20:56 john_minetest OldCoder: is zeg's server on 0.4.4?
20:56 KikaRz Will take a bit
20:56 KikaRz downloading
20:56 OldCoder john_minetest, No. We will need to check all his mods first. And I have not built 0.4.4 yet.
20:56 john_minetest okay.
20:56 OldCoder He has a heavily tailored world
20:56 OldCoder john_minetest, speak of Zeg9 world. Say what it is please.
20:56 KikaRz 0% media...
20:56 OldCoder Describe it.
20:57 OldCoder KikaRz, It may take 20 minutes. Sorry.
20:57 KikaRz O_O'
20:57 KikaRz i prefer that you give me all cache
20:57 OldCoder KikaRz, somebody else could come
20:57 KikaRz X_X'
20:57 KikaRz 1% media.
20:57 OldCoder KikaRz, do you have 0.4.3 ?
20:57 KikaRz yes
20:57 KikaRz i got here
20:57 OldCoder KikaRz, Windows or Linux? I forget
20:57 KikaRz not the other one
20:57 OldCoder Cache is in this file:
20:57 KikaRz linux but i got here the Compiled one
20:57 KikaRz that one that didnt supported d3d...
20:57 KikaRz i remember
20:58 KikaRz that one that you sent me to speed up game
20:58 KikaRz in windows
20:58 OldCoder Yes
20:58 OldCoder It has cache
20:58 KikaRz send me
20:58 OldCoder Yes
20:58 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-121020.zip
20:58 OldCoder May or may not work
20:58 KikaRz love Fallen Kingdom. Sorry. I just like this parodies.
20:59 KikaRz i dislike minecraft because dont works in my computer, but in general... i like musics
20:59 john_minetest OldCoder: I will work on a description of the server and send it to you tomorrow or so
20:59 OldCoder john_minetest, ty
21:01 KikaRz Fuck this chrome
21:01 KikaRz GRRR
21:01 KikaRz cant download at full
21:01 KikaRz it says: minetest-121020.zip may be dangerous. (Keep ) (Reject)
21:01 KikaRz I pressed Keep
21:01 OldCoder Yes
21:01 KikaRz but dont acceps
21:02 OldCoder ??
21:02 OldCoder Junkware
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21:03 rarkenin Hey.. I'm getting a lot of access violations, illegal memory writes, on Windows 7 x64. Is this a know bug. or shall I proceed in eporting it?
21:03 OldCoder john_minetest, quick question. Do you remember roughly when I took over Zeg9 world?
21:03 OldCoder rarkenin, Not known I think
21:03 rarkenin In trans_func.
21:03 rarkenin Access violation at 0133C852 write?=0 address=3746562307
21:03 rarkenin In trans_func.
21:03 rarkenin Access violation at 0133C852 write?=0 address=3746562307
21:03 rarkenin 16:02:05: ERROR[main]: Some exception: "Access violation"
21:03 rarkenin Sound familiar?
21:03 OldCoder Nope
21:04 rarkenin Doesn't crash but disconnects. Happens when logging onto a server or chatting.
21:04 john_minetest Wed Nov 21 19:37:34 2012
21:04 rarkenin Where shall I report it? Is there a bugzilla, or is it on Launchpad.net?
21:04 OldCoder Here pretty much
21:04 john_minetest OldCoder: Wed Nov 21 19:37:34 2012
21:04 marktraceur rarkenin: Is this unmodified Minetest, or are you making changes that might cause it?
21:04 OldCoder john_minetest, Thanks!
21:05 rarkenin marktraceur: these are the original binaries.
21:05 marktraceur rarkenin: Any mods?
21:05 rarkenin This is on server minetst.0gb.us
21:06 rarkenin I can't get co[py-paste so I'll take it from debug.txt... just a sec
21:06 iqualfragile are there daily windows-builds?
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21:06 rarkenin tNo. Just the zips on minetst.net
21:07 iqualfragile thats sad
21:07 iqualfragile well… nah, not realy
21:07 rarkenin I don't know, actually.
21:07 OldCoder KikaRz, still attempting to load?
21:07 rarkenin My debug.txt is 218 MB
21:08 KikaRz Still attempting to download.
21:09 iqualfragile oldcoder: do you provide windows-builds?
21:09 rarkenin I'll try to compress it as much as I can. Shall I use a .gz? Or .rar? Or something else?
21:09 OldCoder iqualfragile, I do
21:09 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-121020.zip
21:09 iqualfragile is it up to date?
21:09 OldCoder That is a 0.4.3 from October that works with my worlds
21:09 OldCoder Not 0.4.4
21:10 OldCoder Current enough and I will update it soon
21:10 OldCoder Includes preloaded cache
21:10 KikaRz Yes i know.
21:10 iqualfragile are you able to provie daily builds?
21:10 OldCoder KikaRz, that is for iqualfragile
21:10 KikaRz cant fucking download in chrome
21:10 OldCoder iqualfragile, No because I do not use upstream
21:10 rarkenin This is 0.4.3 and the access violation is intermittent.
21:10 KikaRz intermittent?
21:10 OldCoder rarkenin, Is it Windows? Try my version
21:11 rarkenin It happens in bunches, and recurs some days.
21:11 KikaRz ...
21:11 KikaRz hate chrome!
21:11 marktraceur KikaRz: Firefox?
21:12 iqualfragile i sat in front of a windows-pc some days ago
21:12 iqualfragile there was no firefox
21:12 iqualfragile so i started ie to download firefox
21:12 iqualfragile it crashed
21:12 iqualfragile -.-
21:12 KikaRz No marktraceur
21:12 KikaRz i dont have firefox here
21:13 rarkenin The trick is to use Telnet to get Firefox. Or at least command-line FTP/
21:13 marktraceur KikaRz: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/
21:14 marktraceur Tadaaaa
21:14 KikaRz Shut up.
21:14 KikaRz Its simpler if you give me a computer better
21:14 marktraceur KikaRz: Sorry for helping you
21:14 marktraceur KikaRz: I remember now, you don't like people helping you
21:15 KikaRz this computer cant have mozilla
21:15 marktraceur KikaRz: Why's that?
21:15 KikaRz this computer runs better in DOS
21:15 KikaRz that simple terminal thing
21:16 marktraceur KikaRz: And Chrome is better for running in a terminal? Because I'm pretty sure both would require a GUI.
21:16 rarkenin I can;t get this thing to crash again atm. If I do, should I come back with a debug.txt?
21:16 marktraceur rarkenin: 100%
21:17 marktraceur rarkenin: Having debug texts is always awesome.
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21:18 KikaRz marktraceur
21:18 KikaRz nobody said that this is running in a terminal
21:18 KikaRz -.-
21:18 KikaRz i said:
21:18 KikaRz this computer runs better in DOS
21:18 KikaRz not : this computer is RUNNING in DOS
21:18 KikaRz ...
21:18 marktraceur KikaRz: So what's your point?
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21:19 KikaRz OldCoder
21:19 KikaRz are you there?
21:19 KikaRz im entering
21:19 OldCoder KikaRz, yes
21:19 rsiska joined #minetest
21:19 OldCoder ty
21:19 OldCoder Looking for you KikaRz
21:19 Renoki is there a way to fly in creative mode?
21:20 KikaRz wait
21:20 KikaRz Non responding...
21:20 KikaRz Renoki;
21:20 VanessaE Renoki: /grant singleplayer fly,fast
21:20 Renoki and to break blocks instantly?
21:20 VanessaE then hit k to enable it.
21:20 Renoki thanks
21:20 KikaRz /grant singleplayer all
21:20 KikaRz thats better
21:20 VanessaE and use space and shift (or e) to go up/down.
21:20 OldCoder The world has been lavaed?
21:20 Renoki neat, thanks
21:20 OldCoder Whoa
21:20 OldCoder That is a lot of lava
21:20 KikaRz OldCoder
21:20 OldCoder VanessaE, come and see
21:20 KikaRz your server got music?
21:20 KikaRz o_o'
21:20 OldCoder Yes
21:21 KikaRz Straaange....
21:21 VanessaE address/port?
21:21 KikaRz wait
21:21 KikaRz minetest.org:30007
21:21 OldCoder VanessaE: minetest.org 30007
21:21 KikaRz 40%
21:21 OldCoder Coords are:
21:21 OldCoder -50,5.3,14.0
21:21 KikaRz 85%
21:21 OldCoder Guess I need to reset the world
21:21 KikaRz 95%
21:21 Renoki it won't let me /grant
21:21 OldCoder VanessaE, I'll op you
21:21 KikaRz 100
21:21 OldCoder KikaRz, fly
21:21 marktraceur KikaRz: What's with the flooding?
21:21 OldCoder Fly up
21:22 rarkenin OldCoder: That build you gave me: Can I just copy my existing games and worlds into the correct directories from 0.4.3, or will it not work?
21:22 VanessaE connecting...
21:22 OldCoder VanessaE, you are here
21:22 KikaRz Im connecting OldCoder
21:22 VanessaE Renoki: then you are not in single player or you aren't admin of the server you're on.
21:22 OldCoder KikaRz, k
21:22 Renoki I'm in singleplayer
21:22 OldCoder VanessaE, you just got lavaed
21:22 KikaRz so /grant Renoki all
21:22 KikaRz if you can
21:22 OldCoder rarkenin, probably will work
21:23 KikaRz omg
21:23 Renoki oh it did work
21:23 Renoki nevermind lol
21:23 KikaRz takes a lot to load
21:23 * OldCoder laughs
21:23 KikaRz Unresponsing
21:23 OldCoder That's a load of lava VanessaE
21:23 OldCoder VanessaE, you have ops
21:23 OldCoder Fly and look
21:23 OldCoder KikaRz, you have ops
21:23 OldCoder Fly up
21:23 OldCoder When you are here
21:24 OldCoder Lots of lava
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21:24 OldCoder KikaRz, go to ground
21:24 OldCoder Let me screenshot you
21:24 OldCoder Let me screenshot you
21:24 Renoki how do I move fast?
21:25 Renoki err, faster.
21:25 VanessaE hah, crashola
21:25 OldCoder KikaRz, hold still then
21:25 KikaRz I cant move
21:25 KikaRz its laggy
21:25 KikaRz this computer cant run it
21:25 OldCoder Hold still
21:26 OldCoder KikaRz, I gave you TP
21:26 OldCoder Hold still
21:26 KikaRz im lagging a lot
21:28 OldCoder It's the world
21:28 OldCoder Don
21:28 OldCoder Done
21:28 OldCoder I'll need to shut it down
21:28 OldCoder It's all lava
21:28 KikaRz ITS LAGGING A LOT!
21:28 OldCoder I have a shot from the side
21:28 KikaRz well
21:28 OldCoder Best I can do
21:28 KikaRz OldCoder
21:28 KikaRz send me them
21:28 OldCoder KikaRz, done
21:28 OldCoder Will post
21:28 OldCoder Wait
21:28 jin_xi_ joined #minetest
21:28 marktraceur KikaRz: We got that, thanks for reiterating
21:28 OldCoder Need a few minutes
21:28 OldCoder Thank you
21:29 KikaRz marktraceur, i'm talking with Oldcoder
21:29 OldCoder VanessaE, that's one world that'
21:29 OldCoder VanessaE, that's one world that's fried
21:29 OldCoder Lavatown
21:29 VanessaE so I see
21:29 marktraceur KikaRz: Yes, I saw, you've been saying the same thing for about five minutes
21:29 KikaRz what?
21:30 babyface1031 wow someone lava a world
21:30 Octupus_ joined #minetest
21:30 marktraceur KikaRz: "im lagging a lot" "ITS LAGGING A LOT" "its laggy" "I cant move" (all spelling mistakes preserved)
21:30 VanessaE khonkhortisan is gonna be pissed.  wasn't he the one building that wide road?
21:30 KikaRz ...
21:30 Octupus hi babyface1031
21:31 babyface1031 hi
21:31 Octupus i am coming on now
21:31 KikaRz marktraceur, please, wait for your turn.
21:31 babyface1031 cool
21:31 marktraceur KikaRz: My turn for what?
21:31 KikaRz You're in position: 5/0.
21:31 OldCoder KikaRz, I'll paste in a few minutes
21:31 KikaRz :D
21:31 KikaRz But its cool OldCoder?
21:31 OldCoder Yes
21:31 marktraceur KikaRz: Welcome to IRC, multiple conversations happen at once
21:32 john_minetest OldCoder: Sorry if the CPU consumption goes up, i am just deleting a building.
21:32 john_minetest to all: ano_ubeccu and DS are griefers. they use an unknown security hole to gain ALL privs.
21:33 KikaRz marktraceur: Your bot as been considerated as: FALSEPOSITIVE
21:33 Renoki is there a way to change the POV
21:33 Renoki ?
21:33 marktraceur KikaRz: What?
21:34 KikaRz sry, my bot is automated.
21:34 Octupus hi mark
21:34 KikaRz i cant stop him
21:34 Octupus can i test your bot
21:34 KikaRz it considers [21:31] <marktraceur> KikaRz: Welcome to IRC, multiple conversations happen at once as a bot talk.
21:34 celeron55_ john_minetest: on what version?
21:34 KikaRz Octupus, No.
21:34 Octupus why
21:34 KikaRz It's payed-for-it.
21:34 iglooboot joined #minetest
21:34 KikaRz you want to pay me 10 euro?
21:34 john_minetest it is 0.4.3
21:34 celeron55_ because 0.3 has a known security hole for that
21:35 marktraceur KikaRz: That's a little ridiculous, I gotta say.
21:35 KikaRz marktraceur, this is a multiple bot
21:35 celeron55_ ...altough nobody else knows it except me and one guy
21:35 celeron55_ 8)
21:35 thexyz john_minetest: on which server?
21:35 kaeza joined #minetest
21:35 Renoki hey guys o.o
21:35 kaeza hey
21:35 marktraceur KikaRz: Considering that it's a bot, you should probably fix the spelling and grammar on it
21:35 KikaRz IRC, minetest (never tried), habbo, transformice, cs 1.6 HLTV
21:35 Renoki is there a way to change POV?
21:35 john_minetest minetest.org:30015
21:35 KikaRz etc
21:35 Renoki err FOV
21:35 Renoki Field of View.
21:36 celeron55_ there is probably no other place where one can get privileges than the implementation of the /priv command
21:36 celeron55_ eh
21:36 celeron55_ /grant
21:36 kaeza what's up?
21:36 iqualfragile !igloo time
21:37 iglooboot 10:35:52 pm CET
21:37 kaeza1 joined #minetest
21:37 celeron55_ hmm... oh no
21:37 OldCoder http://minetest.org/kikarz.png
21:38 OldCoder KikaRz, a little fuzzy but she seems like an adventure heroine
21:38 OldCoder Flying above the destroyed world
21:38 OldCoder She will seek vengeance!
21:38 kaeza1 OldCoder: still not updated to 0.4.4?
21:38 celeron55_ i believe i know what they are using
21:39 KikaRz OldCoder, back is good too
21:39 OldCoder KikaRz, Yes I saw it
21:39 KikaRz skin is at reverse...
21:39 KikaRz not at reverse...
21:39 OldCoder kaeza, I can't until LevelDB is supported
21:39 KikaRz its ... fliped
21:39 kaeza1 OldCoder: OK
21:39 OldCoder KikaRz, The back looked good
21:39 KikaRz it was having a K not a "K at reverse".
21:39 iqualfragile !igloo ping minetest.net
21:39 iglooboot 64 bytes from hindenburg.emblica.org (5.9.130.165): icmp_req=1 ttl=54 time=18.2 ms
21:40 KikaRz !igloo ping minetest.net
21:40 iglooboot 64 bytes from hindenburg.emblica.org (5.9.130.165): icmp_req=1 ttl=54 time=16.7 ms
21:40 KikaRz fail
21:40 mauvebic joined #minetest
21:40 KikaRz !igloo ping c55.me
21:40 KikaRz let me see one thing
21:40 marktraceur I see the child has found a new toy
21:40 iglooboot timeout
21:41 thexyz what's the language this bot is written in?
21:41 mauvebic i shouldn't have put the christmas tree on the same circuit breaker as my rigs lol
21:41 bulletrulz joined #minetest
21:41 KikaRz LOL
21:41 KikaRz c55.me timedout
21:41 KikaRz celeron55_, look... your site timedout in igloobot
21:41 bulletrulz supp
21:41 KikaRz look... your site timedout in iglooboot *
21:42 iglooboot hi, KikaRz
21:42 KikaRz ... iqualfragile, iseeu
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21:42 kaeza hey bulletrulz
21:43 iglooboot whats up?
21:43 bulletrulz nothing
21:43 celeron55_ john_minetest: how many times that has happened, and has there been a server restart always before they have gotten privs?
21:43 celeron55_ like, they have no privs -> restart -> they have privs
21:44 thexyz is /grant logged somewhere?
21:44 celeron55_ no it is not
21:44 KikaRz I seen celeron55_
21:44 KikaRz It happens when default_privs
21:45 kaeza left #minetest
21:45 thexyz i bet on weak admin password
21:46 john_minetest how many times did what happen?
21:46 celeron55_ thexyz: were you the one who found the auth file corruption exploit?
21:46 KikaRz thexyz
21:46 john_minetest OldCoder: can you post the server log somewhere?
21:46 thexyz celeron55_: yep
21:46 OldCoder john_minetest, Sure. I'll keep it online.
21:46 OldCoder You mean Zegaton?
21:46 john_minetest yes.
21:46 OldCoder Hold on
21:46 celeron55_ thexyz: maybe we should fix it in 0.3 8)
21:47 celeron55_ altough that would reveal the bug and everybody uses 0.3.1
21:47 KikaRz Now: Playing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;v=63GtJjgPYU8 Dubstep | ByeByeCopyright - Nilow - ( LisaMitchell ) - Neopolitan Dreams - Dubstep Remix
21:47 KikaRz fail.
21:47 celeron55_ (well, the few who use 0.3...)
21:47 thexyz but who uses that?
21:47 KikaRz must remove this filter
21:47 iqualfragile !igloo password
21:47 celeron55_ well, let's continue just hoping
21:47 iglooboot poYaw7oo1cebahLeechai7Kae1ahHahng0Me9eifoo5ahgao2eengohs5ShaiB1ey6
21:47 KikaRz !igloo password
21:47 celeron55_ but this 0.4 thing has to be solved
21:47 thexyz lol, nice tool to generate passwords
21:47 iglooboot ao1ahd6DuoN6uilohquaemaejoofee1io4quiequ7ohXooCe9othooPhe6ougo3Iet
21:47 thexyz except they are all logged
21:48 OldCoder http://minetest.org/zegaton.txt
21:48 OldCoder john_minetest, that is a live copy ^
21:50 john_minetest the log is too new.
21:50 KikaRz ft john_minetest
21:50 KikaRz 21:48:13: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <john> my password is not the best one you could set but it is still difficult to figure out
21:50 john_minetest i granted interact to ano_ubeccu about a week ago...
21:51 john_minetest yeah.
21:51 KikaRz xd
21:51 john_minetest afaik ano also gave himself privs on globis server.
21:51 john_minetest on the old map.
21:52 iglooboot Goodbye
21:52 OldCoder john_minetest, I have previous ones
21:52 OldCoder How far back?
21:52 john_minetest one week or a bit more... let's say 2 weeks.
21:53 KikaRz bye igloobot
21:53 KikaRz bye iglooboot*
21:53 john_minetest when ano_ubeccu joined we have to begin our search.
21:54 KikaRz Now: Playing -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zaSW3CDAUg&amp;feature=relmfu  Droideka - Human Error
21:54 iglooboot joined #minetest
21:54 celeron55_ OldCoder: can you check that you know that everybody who has the privs privilege is likely to have a good password?
21:54 marktraceur KikaRz: Stop those.
21:54 KikaRz Updating bots list in irc: #minetest - Freenode
21:54 KikaRz Updating iglooboot info.
21:54 john_minetest on this server just zeg9 and me can give privs.
21:54 celeron55_ we currently are suspecting a weak password
21:54 iglooboot hi KikaRz
21:55 iqualfragile !igloo die
21:55 iglooboot left #minetest
21:55 KikaRz Cool
21:55 KikaRz let me test that
21:55 john_minetest celeron55_ :might be. this thing comes to minetest. sad.
21:55 iglooboot joined #minetest
21:55 khonkhortisan !igloo hi
21:55 KikaRz !igloo die
21:55 iglooboot hi
21:55 iglooboot left #minetest
21:55 celeron55_ john_minetest: wut?
21:55 KikaRz Cool *--*
21:55 khonkhortisan hehe
21:55 celeron55_ ban that bot
21:55 celeron55_ or, well, i guess i could
21:55 KikaRz you are talking to what bot?
21:55 john_minetest it is sad that there is now hackage in minetest.
21:55 KikaRz iglooboot? that lagged one0'
21:56 KikaRz ?
21:56 celeron55_ john_minetest: there has always been
21:56 marktraceur celeron55_: While you're at it, kick KikaRz for a bit, so she can remove the "now playing" messages and learn not to copy every bot command she sees.
21:56 KikaRz Youtube Listening info has been disabled to evade spamming ban/kick.
21:56 KikaRz marktraceur, shut up
21:56 john_minetest :/ yeah... we will have to look up the logs.
21:56 iglooboot joined #minetest
21:57 VanessaE ...
21:57 KikaRz I've disabled youtube messages.
21:57 VanessaE don't tell well-respected members of this community to "shut up".
21:57 * marktraceur is flattered
21:57 * KikaRz is anger.
21:58 celeron55_ thexyz + ops = beware of the nuclear explosions
21:58 KikaRz better to don't talk more anything
21:58 * VanessaE looks around her world...I know I missed a door here somewhere.
21:58 VanessaE celeron55_: pilzadam's doors mod sucks btw :-)
21:58 VanessaE compared to thexyz's xdoors2
21:58 VanessaE but that's a small matter of deleting one in favor of the other on my end :-)
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21:59 KikaRz Lol...
22:00 KikaRz Kikoobot messages has been hidden for evade spamming ban/kick.
22:01 iqualfragile thexyz: why did you mute iglooboot?
22:02 KikaRz iqualfragile, please, go onto another irc channel to test your bot.
22:02 thexyz it was producing too much unrelated text
22:02 KikaRz if you want, you can come to the #m13
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22:03 kaeza hi
22:03 kaeza again :)
22:03 KikaRz Hi
22:03 iqualfragile it?
22:03 iqualfragile its no it?
22:03 iqualfragile its no bot
22:03 VanessaE hey kaeza
22:03 kaeza what's up V?
22:03 VanessaE thexyz's and KikaRz's dander ;)
22:03 thexyz VanessaE, what's the difference? (i haven't tested his doors at all)
22:03 VanessaE otherwise, not much.
22:04 kaeza k :)
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22:04 VanessaE thexyz: your doors are fully 3D including the windows.  PilzAdam's are only 3d at the edges of the door, the front/back/windows are 2d.
22:04 VanessaE so yours appear to have thickness, his don't.
22:05 mauvebic isnt glass transparent?
22:05 VanessaE mauvebic: sure, of course
22:05 jin_xi_ do doors still have 2 selectionboxes?
22:05 mauvebic oh wait, re there little "streaks" on the glass?
22:05 VanessaE jin_xi_: didn't notice.
22:05 thexyz hm.. i suppose that was done to make texturemakers' lifes easier
22:05 VanessaE mauvebic: on default glass blocks, yes.
22:06 VanessaE thexyz: indeed it was.  but it has the side effect of looking just-not-as-good as yours.
22:06 OldCoder thexyz, I have PMd
22:07 mauvebic do your doors flicker at the top/bottoms too?
22:07 marktraceur Is there a way to tie a Minetest chat to an IRC channel?
22:07 VanessaE I've never seen thexyz's doors (or anyone else's) flicker or have screwed up textures
22:07 Octupus YES marktraceur
22:07 marktraceur Octupus: Link?
22:07 VanessaE even the old xdoors with the default:wood texture looked okay for me
22:08 Octupus i dont have a link but i can give you a server that had that
22:08 mauvebic must be a driver glitch, everytime i move it flickers, all of them
22:08 KikaRz iqualfragile, if you want come.
22:08 Octupus marktraceur,orbys clan has it ,ask ecube he knows more about it
22:08 Octupus aftre all he is in the clan
22:08 VanessaE mauvebic: you mean the edges of the boxes jitter around?
22:08 thexyz marktraceur: i've already written simple jabber integration (though it has IPC via files)
22:09 VanessaE mauvebic: are you really far from the center of the map?
22:09 mauvebic naw i never stray more than 3K from center
22:09 marktraceur ecube: Do you have docs for tying Minetest chat to an IRC channel?
22:09 mauvebic marktraceur irc in minetest chat? what about python?
22:09 KikaRz marktraceur, he did one
22:09 marktraceur mauvebic: What about Python?
22:10 KikaRz in another server that he had in other times...
22:10 KikaRz yep, python works
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22:10 bulletrulz hi
22:10 KikaRz just connect it with the debug.txt thing
22:10 KikaRz in the server vps
22:10 KikaRz and tada.
22:10 mauvebic connect to Irc using python
22:10 mauvebic if lua cant
22:10 * marktraceur didn't know that Python was that simple
22:10 KikaRz yes
22:10 marktraceur But OK, I'll see what I can do. debug.txt seems like a sane-ish way to go
22:10 mauvebic well no you have to figure out how to conenct
22:10 thexyz well, that's what i do
22:10 KikaRz Python is veeeery simple
22:11 KikaRz i know making a bot.
22:11 mauvebic but thats what i do to pull weather and news into the game with my big signs
22:11 KikaRz just connect the bot to IRC and to debug.txt
22:11 marktraceur KikaRz: Yeah, we saw that evidence earlier, very impressive
22:11 thexyz write a bot in python, make it communicate with game's lua
22:11 KikaRz yes
22:11 KikaRz then with IRC
22:11 * marktraceur gets it, thanks
22:11 mauvebic its as simple as using os.execute, having hte python script either return text or save to file
22:11 marktraceur But if the solution is "make your own" I'd like to hear whether ecube has an existing solution
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22:12 kaeza Just asking, but does minetest have loadlib() functionality from lua?
22:12 Uberi you mean the require mechanism?
22:12 kaeza I mean load native libs
22:12 celeron55_ it does
22:12 kaeza lua has it IIRC
22:12 celeron55_ i don't know of anyone who would've used luasocket yet
22:13 celeron55_ but it should be perfectly possible and even easy
22:13 kaeza It would be cool to implement a MT chat <-> IRC link
22:13 OldCoder Definitely
22:13 VanessaE agred
22:13 OldCoder Far too cumbersome to chat in MT now
22:13 VanessaE agreed
22:13 mauvebic problem remains how to print a large amount of text
22:13 OldCoder If you are used to IRC
22:13 OldCoder Scrollback
22:13 kaeza thmmm
22:14 VanessaE yes
22:14 mauvebic i mean you cant use labels on every line of a formspec, ( i tried, it was ugly) lol
22:14 KikaRz Hey
22:14 VanessaE plus the F10 crash is easier to avoid if you can read the text via some other interface
22:14 KikaRz i guess is not needed LUA
22:14 khonkhortisan For how many nodes can you run (fast) before being at full speed?
22:14 KikaRz just connect the bot with the debug.txt
22:14 kaeza yes but on large amounts of text chat widget blocks inventory
22:14 thexyz IRC is too outdated, xmpp is way better
22:14 mauvebic so add a button and make it a tab on the inventory??
22:14 Uberi yeah the debug.txt way is good
22:14 VanessaE I have a running log (tail -f debug.txt | grep -i "chat") to avoid having to use F10 on my little server
22:15 VanessaE xmpp = I have to use a new client.
22:15 VanessaE no, use IRC.
22:15 kaeza mauvebic: nice idea
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22:15 Uberi if it ain't broke, don't fix it
22:15 Uberi IRC ain't broke :P
22:15 kaeza hmmm... gotta research on IRC protocol
22:16 thexyz VanessaE: >baby duck syndrome
22:16 Uberi kaeza: the RFC is probably the best reference
22:16 mauvebic http://luaforge.net/projects/luairc/
22:16 kaeza Uberi: now looking at it
22:17 KikaRz 404   Oops, no such project or page.
22:17 KikaRz in very big
22:17 VanessaE thexyz: sure, but at the same time I'm *accustomed* to IRC.  I've been using it for 16 years.  Plus I hate instant messengers.
22:17 KikaRz in luairc.luaforge.net
22:18 mauvebic IRC, ICQ, MSN, been on the net for 20 odd years now lol
22:18 mauvebic you get used to anything lol
22:18 Uberi IRC makes sense, is all
22:18 VanessaE mauvebic: IRC has been around longer, but I'm talking about the use of the *client*, not the *protocol*
22:18 thexyz VanessaE, wait, isn't irc an "instant messenger"?
22:18 kaeza mauvebic: 404
22:19 mauvebic seems to me a programmer will chose whatever protocal already has a framework in lua or python or cpp
22:19 VanessaE IRC doesn't rely on buddy lists, centralized servers, or p2p-oriented communication.  It's closer to an old yahoo chat room than an IM.
22:19 VanessaE I say link to IRC, with each server getting its own channel so-named.
22:19 mauvebic irc is prolly the easiest to implement
22:19 Uberi|Busy plus the protocol is pretty simple and human-readable and writable
22:19 VanessaE with a bot therein to pass messages back and forth to the MT client.
22:19 VanessaE er, MT server.
22:19 kaeza VanessaE: +1
22:19 Uberi|Busy unlike those XML based ones
22:20 mauvebic whats wrong with XML? lol
22:20 mauvebic you never had to learn regular expressions i see
22:20 VanessaE use Freenode for the IRC network since we all come here anyway for MT-related chat
22:20 jin_xi_ regarding doors mod, it does use one-node high selection boxes. i think it would look better if its only one, like this snippet makes: http://pastebin.com/ZjQB2LQN
22:20 kaeza Uberi|Busy: I like simple protocols, XML is way too heavy
22:20 KikaRz http://files.luaforge.net/releases/luairc/luairc/0.3
22:20 mauvebic only if you use indiv tags for <day><month><year> lol
22:20 kaeza KikaRz: already got it
22:21 bulletrulz windows 8 gave linux another chance:D
22:21 Uberi|Busy mauvebic: would you rather write MSG #minetest this is a message or <message><channel value="#minetest"><text>this is a message</text></channel></message>? :P
22:21 Uberi|Busy agreed, kaeza
22:21 Uberi|Busy it's fast, light, and low bandwidth
22:22 Uberi|Busy it doesn't need a huge XML parser to read/write, you can implement it in anything that supports sockets
22:22 Uberi|Busy you can just dump it to a text file and it's acceptable for reading
22:22 kaeza mauvebic: What's wrong with simply "12:34:56 kaeza Hello!"? do you think "<message time="12:34:56" user="kaeza">Hello!</message>" is best?
22:22 mauvebic depends
22:22 mauvebic how many entries we talking about?
22:23 kaeza how many do you see here? :)
22:23 mauvebic it also depends if you want to sort your entries or display them in whatever form theyre saved
22:25 VanessaE If you keep your text format consistent, you can still make it machine readable.
22:25 kaeza mauvebic: Yeah, and it's probably beter to just "sort -a 'chat.log'" than developing yet another parser for XML based log
22:25 VanessaE [2012-01-01 12:34:56] <kaeza> Hello!
22:25 VanessaE easily machine- and human-readable.
22:26 bulletrulz do u think the post pc error will happen
22:26 VanessaE error?
22:26 kaeza VanessaE: better than <msg date="xxx" time="xxx" user="xxx">Hello!</msg>
22:26 VanessaE kaeza: considerably.
22:27 VanessaE bulletrulz: you mean the post-PC "era"?  No, never gonna happen.  Desktop PCs have too many uses to be completely supplanted by notebooks and tablets.
22:27 VanessaE the form factor and technology will change, but the purpose and name will not.
22:27 bulletrulz VanessaE i agrre
22:28 Uberi|Busy yeah I tried to edit a video on a tablet the other day
22:28 Uberi|Busy failed miserably
22:28 iqualfragile does minetest use udp?
22:28 VanessaE iqualfragile: yes.
22:28 iqualfragile thanks
22:28 VanessaE Uberi|Busy: exactly.  tablets are just not powerful enough to handle anything really demanding like that.
22:28 VanessaE and they probably won't be for a very LONG time.
22:29 Uberi|Busy IMO not a matter of power, really, moore's law will take care of that to some degree
22:29 kaeza Tablets were meant and are still meant for small bookkeeping tasks
22:29 VanessaE until we can figure out how to get 4GHz worth of Athlon-class CPU power (or better) into a package that's both small and runs cool..
22:29 jin_xi_ is there a mod that allows obtaining colored wool via crafting?
22:29 Uberi|Busy it's more that I really need a mouse + physical keyboard + big monitor
22:29 VanessaE power is less of a problem than waste heat.
22:29 VanessaE jin_xi_: Jordach's Woolcraft
22:29 VanessaE jin_xi_: it uses the standard recipes from the old wool mod.
22:29 kaeza If you buy a tablet to do serious work, you're gonna have a bad time...
22:29 mauvebic reminds me i need to change the thermal paste on my processor lol
22:29 VanessaE with a couple of tweaks.
22:30 Uberi|Busy my hands are cramping after playing MCPE for about an hour
22:30 bulletrulz linux acctully has about 8% of market shar
22:30 VanessaE but be aware that it may not work anymore.  last time I tried to use it, it didn't.
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22:30 VanessaE bulletrulz: try 75% - linux runs on most of the servers in the world as well as more than half of all cell phones and tablets.
22:30 VanessaE for the desktop, 8% sounds about right though
22:30 mauvebic yeah but its still a pain ITA for the average consumer
22:31 VanessaE mauvebic: not so much anymore, it's getting much better.
22:31 mauvebic tell that to the hoards of people running from ubuntu lol just kiddin "[
22:31 mauvebic *:p
22:31 mauvebic honestly i miss the old ubuntu
22:31 Uberi|Busy Linux Mint just isn't the same
22:31 mauvebic every arch update is a "learning experience" lol
22:32 jin_xi_ thanks
22:32 Uberi|Busy won't bring back that charming jackelope
22:32 kaeza I started my life in Linux with the lean and mean Puppy
22:32 kaeza http://puppylinux.org
22:32 KikaRz Love Puppy Linux
22:32 KikaRz its the best
22:32 mauvebic i love how they keep attacking nvidia too
22:32 Uberi|Busy puppy's got amazing hardware support for such a small distro
22:32 mauvebic smart move linux
22:33 mauvebic nouveau's never worked out of the box for me lol
22:34 kaeza If you add up the development environment, you get around 230MB
22:34 VanessaE I run Xubuntu so that I don't have to fight with crap like Unity/gnome3
22:34 VanessaE I can not stand unity.
22:34 KikaRz me neither
22:34 KikaRz *-*
22:34 mauvebic you and me both lol
22:34 kaeza yet full-featured with office suite
22:34 VanessaE a tablet metaphor does NOT work on the desktop!!
22:34 KikaRz what yesterday i've tried?
22:34 mauvebic i had the top thread on ubuntu forums for awhile detailing why computer literate people would ditch unity in a heartbeat lol
22:34 Uberi|Busy I want to see my window titles in the taskbar!
22:34 KikaRz MAKING MY COMPUTER A FOURTHPLE SCREENS!
22:34 KikaRz *_*
22:34 KikaRz Epic!
22:35 kaeza Uberi|Busy: lol
22:35 mauvebic XFCE kicks ass, et even tiles my windows at the edges now (THATs genius)
22:35 kaeza I hate Unity too
22:36 kaeza mauvebic: The xfce desktop is nice, but somehow borked my comp
22:36 mauvebic unity is what it is because they gave designers (of all people) final word on everything
22:36 Uberi|Busy but hey, it is genuinely good for new users in my experience
22:36 mauvebic xfce?
22:36 mauvebic borked your desktop? crap how?
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22:36 KikaRz mauvebic, no.
22:37 KikaRz Not Xfce
22:37 kaeza mauvebic: to start, It was at 50% performance even with compositing turned off
22:37 KikaRz but yes, real screens
22:37 mauvebic weird
22:37 KikaRz 4 monitors
22:37 KikaRz *-*
22:37 KikaRz better than xfce
22:37 mauvebic arch + xfce running binary nvidia i get 1-2% cpu during idle
22:37 KikaRz can move mouse to everywhere
22:38 Uberi|Busy somehow unity eats 11% at idle...
22:38 KikaRz yea
22:38 Uberi|Busy I don't even know how you let that happen
22:38 KikaRz i hate unity
22:38 KikaRz that sucks.
22:38 kaeza also "full-screen windows" could not be created no matter what
22:38 mauvebic 1-2% on a P4 (worth underlining)
22:39 kaeza 50% on an intel E5700 Dual-Core
22:39 bulletrulz i use LXDE
22:39 kaeza :(
22:39 KikaRz well people
22:39 KikaRz gotta go...
22:39 mauvebic try archbang in a VM see how that goes?
22:39 VanessaE kaeza: 2-3% CPU at idle, and that'
22:39 KikaRz see you tomorrow
22:39 KikaRz kisses
22:39 VanessaE kaeza: 2-3% CPU at idle, and that's with a (currently unoccupied) minetest server running.
22:39 kaeza see ya KikaRz
22:39 mauvebic how can you run minetest and have 2-3%???
22:40 mauvebic even on the new dualcore one of the CPU bars is pretty full lol
22:40 VanessaE mauvebic: unoccupied.  When active, it ties up only about 12% CPU.
22:40 kaeza I have 100% in one cPU while running minetest
22:40 kaeza 10% *
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22:40 iqualfragile1 well, actualy that just inspired me to create a bash-based chatbot
22:40 mauvebic mind you if my FPS is going down is prolly the 100+ decorative nodes i use
22:41 KikaRz kisses VanessaE, kaeza, mauvebic, iglooboot, Uberi|Busy, ecube, OldCoder, ChanServ , iqualfragile, Freefull, iqualfragile1, Muadtralk, etc...
22:41 VanessaE now, the CLIENT eats CPU of course. usually right around 100% since it's rendering full tilt 256px textures :-)
22:41 VanessaE bye KikaRz
22:41 KikaRz sorry for that whole list...
22:41 KikaRz bye :P
22:41 kaeza KikaRz: :)
22:41 VanessaE mauvebic: I have over 1300 defined nodes in my server.
22:41 iqualfragile1 bb
22:41 Uberi|Busy did you say 256px? O_o
22:41 mauvebic tabarnacle
22:41 VanessaE Uberi|Busy: yes, 256px.
22:41 Uberi|Busy that's insane, VanessaE
22:41 VanessaE Uberi|Busy: I used to run 512px, but I got tired of the lags caused by it (and I mean lag, not FPS loss)
22:42 VanessaE Uberi|Busy: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/minetest-screenshot-vanessa512hd-1.png
22:42 VanessaE 512px version.  256px would look nearly identical from that distance.
22:43 bulletrulz can i install emerald in lubuntu
22:43 mauvebic emerald... for copmpiz?
22:43 mauvebic *compiz
22:43 Uberi|Busy if I were a GPU, I'd roll over and die at the sight of thatr
22:43 kaeza this^
22:44 mauvebic emerald is duck-ugly but yeah its in synaptic
22:44 VanessaE Uberi|Busy: 50+ fps in my Radeon HD6870 with proprietary driver in Linux :-)
22:44 mauvebic nice
22:44 Uberi|Busy probably ~1fps on my intel integrated :P
22:44 mauvebic my olde tower (p4 new nvidia) gets 60FPS, the new tower does too lol
22:44 VanessaE mauvebic: oh, they finally put emerald back in? nice.
22:44 mauvebic they took it out?
22:44 VanessaE Uberi|Busy: my laptop (Mobility Radon 9600 gfx) can do about 18 fps with the 64px version.
22:44 mauvebic well you can still compile emerald?
22:44 VanessaE mauvebic: at one time, they did yeah
22:45 mauvebic i have a working version here so its still maintained at least
22:45 VanessaE which pissed me off to no end, I liked emerald.
22:45 mauvebic emerald is fine
22:45 mauvebic its nice themes that are hard to find
22:45 VanessaE but I don't use compiz anymore, so that's a moot point
22:45 mauvebic me neither
22:45 mauvebic not even compositing on xfce
22:45 mauvebic its soo 2009
22:45 mauvebic remember when widgets were the rage?
22:45 VanessaE I donm
22:46 VanessaE I don't use compositing here either.
22:46 VanessaE widgets?
22:46 VanessaE "What's a widget?"
22:46 Uberi|Busy oh how the times change
22:46 VanessaE "It's a fictional product.  It doesn't matter."
22:46 VanessaE "[Scoffs] Tell that to the bank."
22:46 mauvebic widget like that crap you put on the background of an android phone, calendars memos and such
22:47 VanessaE mauvebic: oh.  Well I don't own a smartphone, so... :-)
22:47 VanessaE but I have a number of panel applets I use, may as well be the same thing
22:47 Uberi|Busy oh and those windows "desktop gadgets"
22:47 khonkhortisan I can use widgets with kde
22:47 Uberi|Busy I used those for maybe a week before they started to irk me
22:47 mauvebic desktop gadgets == widgets for one of the other companies doing them at the time
22:48 john_minetest okay, i checked out every join of me on zeg's server. i remember every single join, so it couldn't be made over my account. checking zeg's...
22:49 OldCoder k
22:50 VanessaE kaeza: thanks for fielding those questions on the homedecor thread.  I speak english and broken english, but not fucking-broken-english :D
22:51 mauvebic can a mod access the world db directly while in play?
22:51 VanessaE dunno, I wouldn't think so.
22:52 VanessaE good luck interpreting an sqlite database in Lua anyway :-)
22:52 mauvebic if its anything like mysql i have a few years exp for starts
22:52 mauvebic the blobs might be a bit tricky though lol
22:52 john_minetest bye
22:52 kaeza mauvebic: maybe if there's an SQLite binding for lua
22:53 kaeza VanessaE: no prob
22:53 kaeza sorry, was out for a bit :)
22:53 mauvebic i saw this video of a guy importing simcity 2000 maps into minecraft, it was cool
22:57 mauvebic wonder if it might not be more efficient to store blueprints into their own DB
22:58 mauvebic for a mod like towntest/simcity to work, you need easy/fast access to blueprints
22:58 VanessaE why not export to worldedit format?
22:58 VanessaE then use that mod to load the converted city
22:59 mauvebic i dont store them the same as worldedit
22:59 kaeza I have been tinkering also with an idea
22:59 VanessaE the question, however, is how do you render a simcity building into Minetest/craft?  10x10x10 nodes?  larger?
22:59 mauvebic i recently blueprinted a ship containing 50K nodes, i had to come up with some unique solutions lol
22:59 kaeza maybe make a tool that makes the diff of a world based on it's seed
22:59 VanessaE maybe one mapblock per building?
22:59 mauvebic the way i see it
23:00 mauvebic for simcity
23:00 mauvebic if one square = one house plus a hard
23:00 mauvebic id figure one simcity square is at least a 10x10 in minetest?
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23:01 VanessaE of course, I haven't played simcity since micropolis (and I still have it), or Lincity-NG
23:01 VanessaE so I have no idea what modern Simcity looks like :-)
23:01 mauvebic sim societies suck
23:01 kaeza I only played SimCity 2000 on my SNES
23:01 mauvebic simcity 4k and cities XL are the best of their category
23:01 mauvebic well id like the most basic of construction to be as easy as simcity (like roads and such)
23:02 VanessaE but if you were using micropolis as the basis, I would say one square (of which 3x3 make a residential/commercial/industrial zone) would need to render to no less than one 16x16x16 mapblock
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23:02 mauvebic but more then that it would be nice to designate lots ingame and have the mod figure which blueprint fits there and build it
23:02 kaeza mauvebic: +1
23:02 VanessaE otherwise there wouldn't be enough room to actually walk around inside the buildings.
23:03 mauvebic the thing with my format is i store the nodename once and then each set of coordinates
23:03 mauvebic id have to write a converter for WEP plans
23:04 mauvebic *rather a reader
23:05 mauvebic but what would be simpler is having all plans/blueprints databased instead lol
23:06 kaeza brb. Food calls :)
23:07 VanessaE I think I'll follow kaeza's lead.  dinner time.
23:07 VanessaE bbl
23:08 mauvebic i should have dinner too, brb, getting a beer and cigarette lol
23:09 Uberi|Busy mmm, food
23:16 * VanessaE returns wielding a can of garbanzo beans and a bowl of tuna salad
23:17 * marktraceur ducks
23:19 VanessaE lol
23:28 kaeza back
23:28 VanessaE wb
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23:28 rarkenin Hey... It';s me again. I have a debug.txt but it has nothing useful. Only:
23:28 rarkenin In trans_func.
23:28 rarkenin Access violation at 00EDC852 write?=0 address=249
23:28 rarkenin In trans_func.
23:28 rarkenin Access violation at 00EDC852 write?=0 address=249
23:28 rarkenin 18:27:26: ERROR[main]: Some exception: "Access violation"
23:28 rarkenin 18:27:26: INFO[main]: Searching worlds...
23:28 rarkenin 18:27:26: INFO[main]:   In C:\Users\Alexander\Desktop\Minecraft\minetest-0.4.3-win32\bin\..\worlds:
23:28 rarkenin 18:27:26: INFO[main]: 0gb.us etst minimal (invalid: rwar) test testtset
23:28 rarkenin 18:27:26: INFO[main]: 5 found.
23:29 rarkenin 18:27:26: INFO[main]: Waiting for other menus
23:29 rarkenin 18:27:26: INFO[main]: Waited for other menus
23:29 rarkenin 18:27:26: VERBOSE[main]: error_message = Some exception: "Access violation"
23:29 VanessaE DON'T PASTE HERE!
23:29 kaeza nonononono
23:29 kaeza USE F*CKING PASTEBIN!!
23:29 VanessaE Use a pastebin!
23:29 rarkenin My apolgies. It was only that much,
23:29 Uberi|Busy uh oh access violations
23:29 VanessaE I have yet to see an explanation of what "Access violation" actually means in this context
23:30 Uberi|Busy the world ends not in a bang, but in access violations
23:30 kaeza lol
23:30 VanessaE lol
23:30 rarkenin Full debug,txt coming on Pastebin...
23:30 kaeza That's when God hits line 15837 of humanity.cpp
23:31 rarkenin No other context, Happens when sending a chat message or logging on.
23:31 Uberi|Busy access violations occur when you try to access memory outside of the memory that you have permission to
23:31 VanessaE kaeza: no, see He just missed a comma but can't find it because he didn't break his code up into decently-sized modules :-)
23:31 kaeza lol
23:31 rarkenin Then dunps me at main menu but plays on for a while.
23:31 VanessaE Uberi|Busy: so, a segfault
23:31 Uberi|Busy pretty much
23:31 Uberi|Busy but it applies to more than just the segmented memory model
23:32 VanessaE right
23:32 rarkenin Pastebin is killing my bandwidth right now,
23:32 VanessaE plus of course the game is still running.
23:32 VanessaE (so to speak)
23:32 kaeza women.cpp: 32: in Women::think: NonThinkingEntityException
23:32 rarkenin No, it's not. I had to exit it to get at the debug file.
23:32 VanessaE :P
23:32 Uberi|Busy :O
23:33 VanessaE kaeza: well, see He knew I was gonna make Unified Dyes, so he went forward in time, grabbed the stable version, and installed it back in time :D
23:33 VanessaE that's why we have better color vision than men :D
23:33 kaeza lol
23:34 * kaeza is dying because that statemen is true. PS: i'm colorblind remember?
23:34 VanessaE HAH!  I forgot
23:34 VanessaE sorry about that :D
23:34 kaeza np
23:34 kaeza j/k :)
23:34 Uberi|Busy oh cool
23:35 VanessaE so you meant to say "I'm colorblind, you insensitive bitch (clod)!"
23:35 kaeza lol yea
23:35 kaeza :P
23:35 VanessaE sigh.  I read too much slashdot
23:36 kaeza rarkenin: pastebin... much bandwidht... I don't see how that's possible
23:37 VanessaE not to mention that if it's killing your CPU or network, use a different pastebin or get a better browser :-)
23:38 rarkenin I don't know. It was 216 MB and I failed to redact it... :'( I;m redacting it now,.
23:39 VanessaE oops!
23:39 VanessaE well, delete debug.txt, run the game until it crashes, then pastebin that
23:39 VanessaE 216MB worth of debug text is not useful.
23:39 * OldCoder is AFK on an errand
23:39 OldCoder Sure it is if you use Perl
23:40 kaeza YAY! Let's start another browser WAR! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ylEf-I3KFg0/UBfSZmvRRlI/AAAAAAAALz4/cA_Cs1pqtW8/s1600/browser-humor.jpg
23:40 VanessaE OldCoder: some of us don't speak line noise :D
23:40 Uberi|Busy tail -f debug.txt
23:40 Uberi|Busy some people don't like to write like cartoon characters swearing
23:40 mauvebic browser wars? everyone know my browser has the biggest cache around ;P
23:40 VanessaE lol
23:41 OldCoder Hmm?
23:41 mauvebic lolll
23:41 * OldCoder is lost and confused
23:41 mauvebic ive been drinking, carry on :P
23:41 OldCoder All right
23:41 VanessaE perl = the language of line noise :D
23:41 mauvebic people still do perl?
23:41 rarkenin VanessaE: I'm just going to copy the important parts for the last init.
23:42 rarkenin http://paste.ubuntu.com/1395721/
23:42 kaeza that's better
23:42 VanessaE mauvebic: I thought everyone moved on to Ruby by now? ;-)
23:42 mauvebic ruby? oh god no lol
23:42 Uberi|Busy hahaha
23:42 mauvebic i started with perl in...97? then php and so on
23:42 OldCoder mauvebic, I am leaving but quick question; how do you feel when most people you meet are younger than Perl?
23:43 mauvebic lol age doesnt matter
23:43 kaeza I accidentaly my minetest. Is this bad?
23:43 marktraceur kaeza: Yes.
23:43 rarkenin This sentence no verb.
23:43 mauvebic i know geezers who cant do basic html
23:43 VanessaE rarkenin: that seems like a lot of sounds to play at once.  do you have ambiance mod install or something?
23:43 mauvebic and young people who know assembly
23:43 mauvebic and vica versa
23:43 VanessaE installed*
23:44 marktraceur Oh wow, I'm younger than Perl. I'm so scared.
23:44 rarkenin No. It was a server issue where a sound kept on looping. It was a fire protection mod created by 0gb_us that couldn't stop the fire noise.
23:44 marktraceur But I also know assembly.
23:44 * marktraceur is sooo confused
23:44 kaeza rarkenin: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-accidentally
23:44 Kacey joined #minetest
23:44 mauvebic assembly is an awesome skill to hav
23:44 mauvebic your practically talking to a machine on it's level
23:44 kaeza hey Kacey
23:45 Kacey hi
23:45 mauvebic though it confuses the hell outta might whenever i pick up a book on the subject lol
23:45 marktraceur mov mauvebic, assemblyknowledge
23:45 mauvebic i did basic though
23:45 mauvebic i dont remember it now i was 6 i think
23:46 mauvebic those shitty ass 80's electronic "agendas" (primitive palm pilots lol)
23:47 Kacey i found my dads old pager
23:47 kaeza assembler is quickly fading out in favor of optimizing compiler. What has the world come to?
23:47 mauvebic i also had one of these: http://klaus-hamann.de/images/Computer1/Toshiba_T5100.jpg
23:47 Uberi|Busy optimizing compilers are getting smarter than ASM programmers, you mean :P
23:48 Uberi|Busy they are scary smart these days
23:48 kaeza yup. Remember the Allegro library? it used to have large parts on ASM
23:49 kaeza at least before 4.2
23:50 VanessaE marktraceur: 01:46:30: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <marktraceur> Do you know what uranium is supposed to do?
23:50 VanessaE I think that's used with Technic to make nuclear reactors?
23:50 Uberi|Busy allegroCL?
23:51 kaeza CL?
23:51 kaeza :?
23:53 iqualfragile1 night
23:53 mauvebic 2.2K lines too much for one script?
23:54 marktraceur VanessaE: Good to know, thanks
23:54 VanessaE mauvebic: way too much if that's all in one file.
23:55 VanessaE when you get much beyond about 500 lines, you should split it into multiple files.
23:56 mauvebic yeah, tricky :/
23:56 VanessaE it just gets unwieldy for me when a file grows that large, but each person is different in that regard.
23:56 khonkhortisan than I have 67 lines to go
23:57 Kacey|busy idk how many more lines until i hit 500
23:57 mauvebic frameworks, definitions, they get tangled up lol
23:58 mauvebic i have weapons that need the shapes from multinode to create mushroom clouds, etc.
23:58 kaeza what's the best way to update something every 1 second from within minetest?
23:58 mauvebic at least ive managed to keep the dependencies to 1 or 2 max
23:58 Uberi|Busy a node or entity?
23:58 kaeza global
23:58 mauvebic -abm or node timer
23:58 mauvebic on step
23:58 Uberi|Busy register_on_globalstep
23:58 kaeza I'm giving a shot at connecting MT chat to IRC
23:58 Uberi|Busy ^ kaeza
23:59 mauvebic sweet :-)
23:59 Uberi|Busy oh then use register_on_chatmessage
23:59 mauvebic screens
23:59 Kacey|busy ooh i need that code then
23:59 kaeza I want to cache the IRC chat in a table and update the local chat widget every second

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