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00:04 Fixer *,,,,,*
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01:00 Fixer heh, stk performance is great
01:00 Fixer their reworked graphics a bit, no more startup freeze and stuff
01:03 Fixer they*
01:29 Megaf echo '## Welcome to MiSoDoCo - Minetest Source Downloader and Compiler'
01:30 Megaf lol, my first MT sourcecode downloader and compiler script
01:30 Megaf from 09/09/2013
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03:11 rubenwardy !title https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&t=19208
03:11 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Old Minetest Changelog - Minetest Forums
03:14 tumeninodes ha, you stalkin me? I was just reading that post... :)
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05:18 tumeninodes check the forums, names fanboi and muller
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05:20 roben1430 wasn't c55's post on 0.5 suppost to be reposted as a sort of joke? or was that a joke in and of itself..
05:38 red-F00 vid.me is gone afaik
05:45 red-F00 also what's with the off?
05:45 roben1430 its offtopic, thats all
05:46 roben1430 don't need to clutter the logs with me rants :-)
05:46 roben1430 switching to phone, brb
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05:52 roben1430 back
06:33 red-F00 lol that clear our browser history warning is great
06:33 tumeninodes ? :P
06:33 red-F00 especially considering people have been charged in the past for something as simple as clearing browser history
06:33 tumeninodes ah... haha
06:34 tumeninodes well that would only be if you were involved in a crime
06:34 tumeninodes the averge, innocent individual is fine to do so
06:34 tumeninodes averge? 0_o
06:35 red-F00 some guy got charged because they were investigating someone he was friends with, without any proof they did anything wrong
06:35 red-F00 s/they/he
06:35 tumeninodes well, you hang with the wrong crowd... things get sticky
06:36 tumeninodes being charged is one thing... being found guilty is another
06:37 red-F00 can't find that story found one where charging the person was much more justified
06:38 tumeninodes but those links are good and useful to some here
06:38 tumeninodes probably because in the end, that other guy was found to be innocent
06:44 tumeninodes you do understand why that warning is there, right?
06:45 sofar to prevent retaliation in case an abuser finds out that the victim is googling restrainint orders
06:45 tumeninodes * exactically
06:45 tumeninodes woops ^
06:48 tumeninodes how are you doing?
06:48 sofar coding next project
06:48 tumeninodes awesome
06:50 tumeninodes just to help you feel better, I am still converting :P
06:51 sofar also cleaning up some poop atm
06:51 tumeninodes yeh, I know. Sorry you're dealing with so much poop
06:53 tumeninodes speaking of poop/ed..., I am so, off to punch a kitten then bed
06:54 tumeninodes night
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11:26 Krock lumberJ, what happened to your server?
11:27 Krock nvm. you have no voice. :3
11:32 lumberJ thanks, shivajiva
11:32 shivajiva np :)
12:04 nerzhul did you see the intel huge security shit & fix which decrease performance from 5 to 30 % ?
12:05 nerzhul see my last tweets https://twitter.com/nrzkt
12:05 nerzhul i have some interesting links about it
12:06 nerzhul all CPU produced since 10 years are affected by this huge flaw, AWS & Azure are patching and restarting their whole cloud
12:07 TommyTreasure another intel bug?  different from the hidden os?
12:07 nerzhul yes, a guest OS on an hypervisor or a userland program can access physical host kernel memory
12:07 shivajiva time to sue Intel for supplying goods not fit for purpose
12:08 TommyTreasure all this time i thought they built to m/s specs
12:09 TommyTreasure guess i'll stick with my old amd boards for my cluster test
12:11 nerzhul AMD actions increased , +7%
12:15 TommyTreasure has anyone tried mtserver on a cluster?
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12:30 nerzhul on a cluster ? TommyTreasure MT is not modular to be used on a cluster
13:22 shivajiva *** Risk Assessment ***
13:22 shivajiva Based on the analysis performed by this tool: This system is not vulnerable. It has already been patched.
13:24 shivajiva I think that should also say and your system is now 5-30% slower!
13:25 shivajiva where is my 30% refund???
13:30 Megaf Good morning folks
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13:41 RobbieF Happy new year, all.
13:42 roben1430 hello Megaf, RobbieF
13:42 roben1430 (I'm benrob, from a different client)
13:42 RobbieF hi roben1430
13:42 RobbieF ahhh
13:43 RobbieF as if it's not hard enough for me to keep up  :D
13:43 RobbieF hehe
13:48 TommyTreasure nerzhul, thanks.  glad i found out before i started the project.
13:49 shivajiva Hello everyone o/
13:54 roben1430 hi shivajiva
13:57 RobbieF hey shiva
13:58 Megaf nerzhul: well, I always hated Intel anyway
14:02 Fixer oh, anyone knows addon for firefox that dumps any styles and just gives me black text on white background? aka reader, holy c... i don't need an addon..
14:02 rubenwardy why not reader view?
14:02 Fixer found it
14:02 Fixer reader mode is one of the very good additions, actually very useful
14:04 Fixer roben1430: it is not just bridge, quassel can't do DCC file transfer, 8 years bug or so
14:04 Fixer roben1430: and skype went tos hit
14:06 Fixer 50 shades of amber
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14:09 roben1430 o/ EvergreenTree
14:15 * roben1430 looks at ircv3
14:15 roben1430 >The chathistory batch type allows replaying message history.
14:15 roben1430 OOOOooo
14:16 rubenwardy I really think that IRC is the best chat room protocol, and needs some modernisation to make it better
14:16 rubenwardy like message history and easier authentication
14:16 rubenwardy although those are mostly up to clients
14:18 Krock IRC is the future
14:18 rubenwardy I personally don't like threads or avatars
14:19 rubenwardy reactions would be cool :)
14:23 Megaf IRC with SASL and SSL is just perfect
14:23 Megaf We have all kinds of account control and channel control
14:23 rubenwardy doesn't handle registration though
14:23 Megaf and moderation
14:23 Megaf nickserv does
14:24 rubenwardy nickserv isn't easy for non-technical people
14:24 rubenwardy it needs to be a form at the beginning with login / register / guest
14:25 rubenwardy a lot of these things are client issues
14:25 rubenwardy for example, IRCCloud is good at being non-technical
14:25 rubenwardy whereas HexChat less so
14:28 roben1430 a good IRCv3 client
14:29 roben1430 plus Jitsi meet for voip
14:29 roben1430 or CallServ :PP
14:32 roben1430 Voice Over DCC When?
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15:00 jas_ what is [off]?
15:02 jas_ tyvm
15:03 shivajiva lol
15:03 jas_ lol
15:04 shivajiva for example it stops irc bot broadcasting to mt server
15:04 jas_ handy
15:12 rubenwardy errr
15:14 shivajiva ?
15:14 rubenwardy nvm
15:25 red-F00 is [off] some standard freenode pushes fro?
15:25 red-F00 for*
15:26 red-F00 I do recall them having a page or something about logging that said you should give people a way to opt out
15:29 rubenwardy no
15:32 benrob0329 its standard for our logger, and the IRC mod
15:51 benrob0329 MarisaG: you'll need to login before you are voiced, then chanserv should autovoice you
16:32 Fixer maximum eye bleed
16:32 benrob0329 Fixer: LOL
16:33 benrob0329 no, its bad enough already :P
16:33 benrob0329 had to fix the green 'cause people were complaining
16:33 rubenwardy benrob0329, please may you change the background css from   body {   to   html, body {
16:34 rubenwardy I have some custom CSS which causes the background to go white
16:34 rubenwardy without that
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16:34 benrob0329 rubenwardy: will do
16:34 rubenwardy you can combine it with the rule set above, actually
16:34 rubenwardy same selector
16:35 rubenwardy looking cool though
16:42 benrob0329 rubenwardy: done
16:42 rubenwardy cool, works
16:43 rubenwardy I use a GTK dark theme, so need to have custom CSS in my firefox to stop everything going wrong
16:43 rubenwardy as for some reason someone had the brilliant idea of making firefox render using the GTK theme
16:44 benrob0329 pale moon :PP
17:05 Fixer benrob0329: staying on ESR, until addons I need a ported
17:05 Fixer are
17:06 Calinou Eric S. Raymond is Fixer's favorite browser
17:06 Calinou :P
17:07 Fixer waiting for flashgot and scrapbook
17:07 Fixer when it is done -> will move to quantum
17:08 benrob0329 i've moved away from FF because of Mozilla's new reputation
17:08 Fixer you can also customize via css quantum interface to look almost FF classic
17:08 Fixer even Seamonkey like
17:08 Fixer i have seamonkey classic look
17:08 Fixer i was impressed
17:08 Calinou benrob0329: you don't want to hear about how Mr. Robot ends???
17:08 Calinou how scandalous!
17:08 Calinou /s
17:08 Fixer there is even hack for multitabs
17:09 Fixer Calinou: nobody knows what it is...
17:09 Calinou time for Chrome to bundle Rick & Morty spoilers
17:09 rubenwardy omg
17:09 Fixer Calinou: i mean like, maybe few americans know it, but like 99% of world don't
17:09 rubenwardy Mr Robot season 3 came up a few months ago
17:09 rubenwardy how  do I miss these things
17:10 Fixer i did not even watch that rick morty thing, nor mr robot, nor that thing with winter
17:10 rubenwardy tbf
17:10 rubenwardy you have to have a high IQ to watch rick and morty
17:10 Calinou yeah
17:10 Calinou also to play Minetest
17:10 sofar lmao
17:10 Fixer iirc, you can just skip last thing about winter and watch porno directly
17:10 rubenwardy GoT doesn't have that much sex in it
17:11 Calinou the bikeshedding is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of Lua modding most of the glitches will go over a typical player's head
17:11 rubenwardy like, there's a lot compared to non-US TV
17:11 rubenwardy but it's not like every episode
17:11 Sokomine Calinou: at least ai made considerable progress in mt. with the aliveai mod, some types of players can be simulated almost perfectly :-)
17:11 Fixer oh yes, i wanted to check that mod
17:11 Calinou Sokomine: :) now we need simulated chat and we'll have Turing-complete mobile clients
17:11 Fixer but i also have a suggestion for him
17:11 rubenwardy Bojack Horseman is way better than R+M
17:12 Fixer there is neat mod for MC, one sec
17:12 Sokomine Calinou: no problem. the mod does provide chat :-) as i said: some types of players are simulated very very well :-)
17:12 rubenwardy they're compared as the leads are both arseholes, and they're dark/non-PC at times
17:12 Calinou they use Macs?
17:12 * Calinou hides
17:12 Fixer i have no idea what are you talking about
17:13 Calinou my brother watches Rick & Morty on Netflix when he's at our home
17:13 rubenwardy Bojack Horseman is one of my favourite TV shows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BoJack_Horseman
17:13 Fixer France has netflix?
17:13 Calinou yep
17:13 Calinou since a few years ago now
17:13 rubenwardy lol
17:13 Calinou my brother has a subscription (or he's part of a family plan with friends, I don't know)
17:17 Fixer here is very funny mod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZlVwSDx6-A
17:17 Fixer i want this in minetest
17:19 Fixer it is in beta though
17:22 Fixer lol, it has funny bugs
17:31 Fixer http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and​-modding-java-edition/minecraft-mods/2871995-mee​creeps-a-mod-inspired-on-the-rick-morty-series
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17:39 Sokomine what does the mod do, fixer?
17:39 Sokomine watching a youtube video does take considerable more time than reading a short sentence in irc
17:39 Fixer Sokomine: just read the link above
17:40 Sokomine ah. perhaps won't understand it anyway as i have no idea what that rick-and-morty-series is about
17:41 Fixer CHA_CHA
17:42 rubenwardy Sokomine, in the series there is a creature that will do any task for you called a Meeseek
17:43 Calinou will it rewrite Minetest to Rust?
17:45 Fixer lol
17:45 Fixer Go
17:47 Fixer https://twitter.com/grsecuri​ty/status/948170302286172160
17:47 Fixer wonder how this affects game performance
17:48 Fixer https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/201801​02222354.qikjmf7dvnjgbkxe@alap3.anarazel.de
17:48 Calinou the Intel CPU bug doesn't affect gaming performance at all
17:48 Calinou see Phoronix
17:48 Calinou also, all modern CPUs have the PCID thing
17:49 Calinou (since Westmere, which is 2009)
17:51 Fixer "5% slowdown on average, with up to 30% for some particularly bad network operations."
17:51 Calinou hmm, just noticed Minetest has FPS dependency for water movement speed
17:51 Calinou (0.4.16)
17:51 Calinou at 400 FPS, movement in water becomes very slow, even in fast mode
17:51 Calinou it's faster at lower FPS
17:52 Fixer Calinou: nice
17:52 Krock not nice
17:52 Krock sounds like a bug
17:53 Fixer Krock: nice bug
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17:54 Fixer Calinou: imagine new AMD vs Intel benchmark shitstorm
17:56 Fixer Calinou: funnily some sites already benchmarked Phenom for impact, and it had visible perf loss
17:59 Fixer wait a sec
17:59 Fixer those articles are from 2008
18:00 Fixer nevermind
18:00 benrob0329 lol
18:01 Fixer Calinou: yeah, games he tested are not affected, but some workloads do
18:21 Calinou databases and virtualization, yes
18:21 Calinou I foresee VPS providers quietly disabling the fix, and claiming they left it enabled :-)
18:21 Calinou "we're the best at benchmarks"
18:22 Fixer bestest
18:22 Fixer FINEST CAPITALISM
18:22 Fixer also, videocard price increases announced, holy ----
18:22 Calinou Mining Simulator 2018
18:23 red-F00 have details be released?
18:23 red-F00 been*
18:24 Fixer Calinou: alpha
18:40 Fixer Forcefully Unmap Complete Kernel With Interrupt Trampolines
18:50 Calinou raising elephants is so utterly boring
18:58 benrob0329 I feel like we need a game that has enough depth to make the small things fun, but enough span so that the big picture doesnt get clobbered in the details
19:22 benrob0329 brb
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19:47 Fixer o_o
19:53 red-F00 oh ok
19:53 red-F00 I though it was some minor celebrity or something
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20:20 red-F00 huh 126 prs closed
20:20 red-F00 I remeber when I thought 10 prs closed was a lot
20:21 rubenwardy what are you refering to?
20:22 red-F00 just looked at the stats on the pull requests page for my github account
20:22 rubenwardy ah
20:22 * rubenwardy has 168
20:26 * Fixer
20:32 Fixer JUST ONE MORE YEAR AND YOU WILL BE HAPPYYY
20:37 red-F00 did you just sent an empty /me?
20:38 red-F00 since that broke hexchat
20:40 rubenwardy * Received a CTCP ACTION from Fixer (to #minetest-hub)
20:40 rubenwardy wa
20:41 Fixer yeah, i did
20:41 Fixer is this a problem?
20:41 Fixer red-F00: hexchat crashed?
20:41 rubenwardy oh god
20:41 rubenwardy sorry everyone
20:41 Fixer ?
20:41 red-F00 yes I tit for tat if you version me
20:42 Fixer what?
20:42 rubenwardy -red-F00- skynet version 0.4.16-dev
20:42 rubenwardy lol
20:42 * Fixer
20:42 Fixer Received unknown CTCP-WTF request
20:42 Fixer wtf
20:43 red-F00 ctcp is a protocol for querying information for other irc clients
20:43 red-F00 from*
20:43 rubenwardy client to client protocol
20:44 rubenwardy ?
20:44 red-F00 it's not really client to client
20:44 rubenwardy yeah
20:44 rubenwardy https://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/Client-to-client_protocol
20:44 red-F00 it's just a special /notice
21:01 red-F00 honest question how is it I can update most stuff on linux without rebooting but windows needs to reboot all the time
21:02 sfan5 that's mostly an artificial limitation to ensure that running processed that use old versions are left
21:02 sfan5 that no running processes*
21:16 Krock nore, red-F00, I feel triggered now
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21:25 Fixer Krock: in what way?
21:26 Fixer damned, maikerumine, moves/shuffles shitton of mods in extreme_survival, repo gets ridiculously fat at 200mb
21:31 benrob0329 Fixer: kek
21:35 Fixer anyone tried advtrains?
21:35 rubenwardy yes
21:35 rubenwardy it was buggy when I last tried, but there's been fixes
21:36 rubenwardy tracks are annoying to place and the models are ugly
21:36 rubenwardy mostly due to lighting and textures
21:37 benrob0329 I should finish my steam locomotive model
21:37 benrob0329 but that takes time
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21:59 sofar anyone played with fsc yet?
22:01 Calinou fsc?
22:02 sofar github.com/sofar/fsc
22:10 benrob0329 haven't done any real modding in a few days
22:11 sofar I'm making good progress with my holiday project, I might release the code in a few days or so
22:15 red-F00 sofar, are you planning to release the source code for the backend to inside the box?
22:19 nore red-F00: there was an annoucement some time ago telling it would be released where there will be 100 community boxes IIRC :)
22:20 sofar and I'll keep that promise
22:20 sofar so yes
22:20 sofar fwiw we've had like 5-6 people building hard for a few days
22:20 sofar might go fast
22:20 sofar we're approaching 60 I think
22:21 sofar especially with the application of `fsc` everywhere in the code I think we're in really good shape security wise as well
22:21 red-F00 did you add a way to save progress on a box?
22:21 sofar no
22:22 nore ^ we probably won't do that
22:22 nore it uses a lot of storage space, and might cause issues with mech and things like that
22:23 red-F00 ik, it seems like a fun problem through figuring out the most compact way to store the state of a box
22:27 nore the storage space is not the most important problem, the most important one is all the things that are triggered and you have to save in the current state
22:27 nore would require a rewrite of mech
22:27 sofar the size of a stored box is pretty small
22:27 sofar lemme ... give me the number of a large one
22:28 sofar 118?
22:28 sofar 15K 118.box.gz
22:29 sofar 200k uncompressed :)
22:31 sofar the total server takes up 55MB storage
22:31 sofar and another 17 for the music I think
22:32 sofar heck the entire db with every single box including unfinished boxes, is, 3.5M
22:32 Fixer pff, thats nothing
22:33 sofar yep, I'm fairly sure most server operators would be jealous of that
22:33 rubenwardy a map on CTF is 450KB, uncompressed
22:34 sofar map.sqlite?
22:34 rubenwardy mts
22:34 sofar ahh nice
22:34 sofar yeah you should just minetest.compress that
22:34 sofar of course if you use mts, it doesn't matter much
22:34 rubenwardy the smallest map is 170KB and the largest is 450KB
22:34 sfan5 the mts format includes compression
22:34 rubenwardy you'd hope
22:34 red-F00 rubenwardy, huh do you use the dummy backend for CTF?
22:34 rubenwardy the smallest map is mostly  default:stone  which is why it's the smallest in size
22:35 rubenwardy red-F00, yes
22:35 nore hmmm, we're using our own format for itb
22:35 sfan5 it's pretty much the mapblock format minus everything that doesn't belong to a schematic
22:35 Fixer *,,,,,*
22:35 rubenwardy Maps in the new CTF are two files
22:35 rubenwardy a MTS file, and a conf file
22:35 nore what does the conf file contain?
22:35 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/bl​ob/multimap/mods/ctf_map/maps/01_two_hills.conf
22:35 sofar size, spawn locations?
22:36 rubenwardy yeah, see link
22:36 sofar h & r?
22:36 benrob0329 rubenwardy: tried to play CTF the other day
22:36 Fixer rubenwardy: what is odd about your CTF, it is nonsymmetrical map
22:36 rubenwardy it's roughly symmetrical, which is good enough
22:36 benrob0329 half my team couldn't speak English, and the other half kept mining through the walls
22:36 rubenwardy it's from V7
22:37 rubenwardy lol!
22:37 rubenwardy hopefully there will be less of that now we have doors
22:37 Fixer m i n i n g
22:37 rubenwardy *team doors
22:37 rubenwardy also, really good players can skip the user limit
22:37 nore hmmm, our format contains the data for the map (including metadata)
22:37 nore and there is a seperate json for the metadata
22:38 rubenwardy the maps are about 130^3, so I want it to place as fast as possible
22:38 rubenwardy hence MTS
22:38 sofar vmanip placement?
22:38 rubenwardy slower than MTS
22:39 sofar interesting
22:39 rubenwardy as there's Lua <-> C++ communication needed
22:39 sofar didn't think of that
22:39 nore hmmm, once we get the ffi lua api, I'm going to try with it
22:39 sfan5 sofar: there's a function to place an mts onto the map
22:39 sofar of course, itb maps are much more complex
22:39 sfan5 no vmanip involved
22:39 nore with some luck, will be faster :)
22:39 sfan5 (at least not from lua)
22:39 sofar lots of meta needed
22:40 benrob0329 rubenwardy: I don't think i've been so frustrated at my own teamates in my life
22:40 nore hmmm, we don't have a ffi meta api
22:40 nore might be interesting to code that sometime as well
22:40 benrob0329 I also don't think half of them will know what a door is to use it
22:40 rubenwardy lol
22:40 sofar anyway, itb doesn't need very large maps. 40^3 turns out to be too large for most builders already
22:41 rubenwardy I'm not sure how to automate player quality control
22:41 sfan5 just ban all mobile users :^)
22:41 rubenwardy there's afkkick and features limited to good players already
22:41 rubenwardy lol
22:41 red-F00 I think adding some time critial stuff to an ffi could reduce the number of people that want a c++ ABI
22:41 nore ^ +1
22:41 rubenwardy yeah
22:41 sofar I have like... 0 mobile players on ITB
22:41 sofar secret? 15mb of music ogg files
22:41 * red-F00 takes out a phone
22:41 rubenwardy some of the better players are mobile players
22:41 sofar it's not like they don't try
22:42 rubenwardy but most are truly awful
22:42 nore some players were able to connect
22:42 sofar I get 10-20 multicraft connections a day
22:42 nore but none of them went past the tutorial
22:42 sofar media server logs them all
22:42 nore (parkour is too hard on a phone, it seems)
22:42 red-F00 the server list is just unuseable on a phone
22:44 rubenwardy I'm wondering how to automatically check if a user is destroying the base, rather than rebuilding
22:44 red-F00 huh thats something it just hung at 23%
22:44 rubenwardy heh
22:44 rubenwardy just need moderators on 24/7
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22:46 red-F00 rubenwardy, put an ad on craigslist and say you will pay them in exposure and experience
22:46 * sofar spots red-F00 in http logs
22:46 red-F00 my phone didn't take that well
22:46 sofar I wonder if it spams all the http requests at once, and then dies retrieving them
22:47 sofar sfan5: is there any rate limiting to curl requests? or a thread for each?
22:47 red-F00 seems like a bit of a bug then
22:47 sfan5 there's a few (4?) httpfetch threads that handle requests given to them
22:47 sfan5 but nope, no ratelimiting
22:48 red-F00 now it locked up at 0%
22:48 sofar either that or you downloaded 2mb within a second, possible, though
22:48 sofar seems you got all the media properly then
22:48 benrob0329 rubenwardy: your current anti-mobile nick check is ah...*cough*
22:48 sofar no second connection to mtmediasrv
22:49 red-F00 I don't have a lot of ram in my phone maybe thats the issue
22:49 sofar maybe the skybox textures are the problem
22:49 red-F00 only 1gb
22:49 sofar but, I don't think you're even at that point yet
22:49 red-F00 let me kill of background processes
22:50 sofar # journalctl -u mtmediasrv.service |grep MultiCraft|wc -l
22:50 sofar 130
22:50 sofar # journalctl -u mtmediasrv.service |grep Minetest|wc -l
22:50 sofar 51
22:50 sofar typical
22:50 rubenwardy benrob0329, I'll make an account for you
22:50 red-F00 I wonder is benrob on that list of nicks
22:52 Fixer sofar: lol, 28% of minetest
22:52 Fixer sofar: i wonder how long are play times for both?
22:52 sofar well effectively no significant amt of multicraft players makes it onto the server
22:53 sofar so, there's no data to compare
22:53 Fixer sofar: they can't even login?
22:53 sofar they don't complete login, nope
22:53 Fixer sofar: intended?
22:53 red-F00 oh we have the issue seems something was using up all the memory
22:53 rubenwardy for me, it's 6140 Multicraft
22:53 rubenwardy 13246 Minetest
22:53 rubenwardy ah
22:54 rubenwardy that's nonunique
22:54 Fixer sofar: or low memory?
22:54 rubenwardy grep '"Minetest/' access.log
22:54 sofar Fixer: I don't see it as a problem - tablets & parkours don't really mix anyway
22:54 Fixer sofar: are you blocking them?
22:54 sofar no
22:54 Fixer ok
22:54 red-F00 still nothing I guess I just don't have enough mem
22:54 sofar I've logged on just fine with the official android client on my phone
22:55 sofar never used multicraft though
22:55 rubenwardy for just  index.mth, it's  105 for MT  and  26 for MC
22:55 rubenwardy this is since 5am today
22:55 rubenwardy UTC
22:55 Fixer sofar: how much ram?
22:55 rubenwardy oh, odd  Stonecraft/1.2.4-alpha (Windows/6.1-Service_Pack_1 x86_64)
22:55 red-F00 ^
22:56 red-F00 thats some guy on itch.io
22:56 sofar Fixer: 2gb (google nexus 5)
22:56 Fixer oh lol
22:56 sofar 4 year old phone, lol
22:56 Fixer sofar: and they are probably running on smth like 256mb ram
22:56 sofar likely
22:57 Fixer sofar: my 6 year old one is just 256 mb
22:57 red-F00 https://mrcerealguy.itch.io/stonecraft
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23:03 red-F00 is there an offical version of minetest on the amazon app store?
23:03 rubenwardy no
23:03 Calinou nope
23:04 Calinou (giving a longer answer, for posterity)
23:04 red-F00 oh stonecraft updated to 0.5-dev
23:05 Sokomine rubenwardy: the lua - c++ communication does indeed cost time. it used to be a significant factor back when i did performance tests for mg_villages
23:05 rubenwardy did you use LVM then?
23:08 red-F00 not mirc
23:08 red-F00 hexchat has lua script but apperently Fixer confuses it
23:08 Calinou Quassel
23:08 Calinou (no scripting)
23:09 Sokomine rubenwardy: yes, mg_villages uses lvm
23:10 benrob0329 Quassel has broken DCC though
23:10 red-F00 DCC is dead
23:11 rubenwardy isn't Hexchat python?
23:11 red-F00 it's both
23:11 red-F00 and some 3 langauge I think
23:12 benrob0329 DCC could be handy since IRC doesnt have any other way to establish a p2p connection  afaik
23:12 benrob0329 although you could potentially stream base64 over normal messages
23:12 sofar you can disable perl/python/lua support in hexchat
23:13 red-F00 yeah but no-one uses dcc anyone
23:13 red-F00 anymore*
23:16 red-F00 and it's broke for a lot of people
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23:16 red-F00 * DCC RECV 'Screenshot_2018-01-02_22-15-15.png' from rubenwardy failed (Remote host closed socket)
23:16 rubenwardy loool
23:16 rubenwardy says "waiting" for me
23:16 * roben1430 logs in from desktop
23:16 red-F00 might be the bnc messing up
23:16 rubenwardy yeah
23:17 roben1430 bnc tends to do that
23:17 rubenwardy I'm connected to my ZNC instance over a VPN
23:17 roben1430 I'll take a random screenshot :P
23:17 rubenwardy so there's lots that can go wrong
23:24 * roben1430 sets font to Noto Mono 10
23:36 sfan5 tip of the day: DCC never works

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