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00:01 Fixer "video game loot boxes", new lows of the industry
00:02 Jordach and three years ago that was MC clones
00:03 ThomasMonroe loot boxes are desparate attempts to fund companies that are losing money to FOSS projects :)
00:03 Jordach i doubt that
00:04 Jordach games have a production value that exceeds the new star wars movie
00:08 Fixer wonder what are their profit margins
00:09 Jordach shit without MTX
00:09 Jordach like actual SHIT
00:09 Jordach EA is likely to lose the Star Wars license if BF2-17 fails
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00:19 Fixer BF2-17?
00:21 Jordach the new battlefront 2
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00:53 JordachNote8 DnX RPG in MT
00:53 JordachNote8 DnD *
00:54 Megaf Updated Debian Sid on my laptop. WiFi and Nvidia driver stopped working
00:54 Megaf Thankfully I have macOS for backup
00:54 Fixer Megaf: typical
00:55 Megaf Reinstalled Nvidia driver and tried 3 different kernels. No luck
00:55 Megaf Now I'm updating everything again and let's see if I can get nouveau to work
00:56 Fixer Megaf: it is called unstable for a reason
00:56 Megaf I will be traveling overseas in 7 hours... Should be sleeping
00:56 Megaf I mean, will be leaving to the airport in 7 hours
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00:58 Fixer Megaf: go to sleep, it is not worth it
00:59 Megaf Finishing packing
00:59 Fixer the whole point of OS is to be a invisible middleman, powering up your applications
00:59 Megaf Agreed
00:59 Fixer if you tinker with OS, but not with applications - something is really wrong
00:59 Megaf MS, Apple and other biggies don't get that
01:00 Fixer ideally you configure it once and use same config for years
01:00 Fixer as i do with windows
01:00 red-001 yeah writing an OS is thankless work, if you do everything right, chances are no-one even notices your work
01:00 Fixer same with linux
01:01 Megaf Well, my servers last really long
01:01 Megaf User OS
01:01 Megaf Not so much
01:01 Fixer most of the time OS is not visible at all
01:01 Fixer it provides you contact with hardware
01:02 Megaf Ok, final attempt getting X to load
01:02 Fixer user is focused on abbz
01:02 Fixer also, i've seen "Apps" cancer on some 80s screenshots, so it is much longer naming
01:03 Megaf Ok. X is totally broken on Sid
01:04 Megaf Not even nouveau starts
01:04 Fixer try googling
01:04 Megaf Not worth it :)
01:04 Megaf Not now
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01:08 Megaf It turns out X is working
01:09 JordachNote8 greetings, paramat
01:09 rubenwardy hey paramat
01:09 * Megaf typing from Debian Sid now
01:10 paramat hiii
01:10 Megaf lets see how long nouveau will hold
01:11 JordachNote8 is there a better irc client for Android other than quassel
01:11 JordachNote8 since yaaic is a turd
01:12 JordachNote8 (i shouldve setup quassel core years ago)
01:13 * rubenwardy uses HoloIRC
01:13 rubenwardy it sucks
01:13 rubenwardy :D
01:13 rubenwardy IRC Cloud is really nice
01:13 rubenwardy but proprietary
01:13 * Megaf on Quassel Client/Core
01:13 JordachNote8 hold my beer
01:14 Megaf Core runs on my dedi and clients everywhere
01:14 * Megaf sips Jordarchs beer
01:14 Megaf Dont tell him
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01:17 HoloIRCUser Doesnt suck
01:17 HoloIRCUser Hanf
01:17 HoloIRCUser Wait a second
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01:20 JordachNote8 Much better
01:21 JordachNote8 Rubenwardy, doesnt suck as much
01:21 JordachNote8 Just less than yaaic
01:24 Megaf JordachNote8: wants your beer back?
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01:29 JordachNote8 Holy shit this wifi repeater is a turd with dd wrt
01:29 JordachNote8 Drops Wi-Fi when im not even 3m away
01:32 Megaf g'night
01:57 * benrob0329 writes a cron script for his minetest server (private, for a lets play)
01:58 * rubenwardy has bought a microphone
01:58 rubenwardy expect more youtube videos
01:59 Shara :D
02:02 benrob0329 rubenwardy: what kind?
02:02 rubenwardy modding tutorials
02:02 rubenwardy live streams
02:02 benrob0329 no the mi
02:02 rubenwardy maybe some engine dev
02:02 benrob0329 mic
02:02 rubenwardy oh, I'm not gonna say
02:02 rubenwardy it's cheap
02:03 benrob0329 Blue Snowball?
02:03 rubenwardy £13 = 17$
02:03 * Shara should really get a mic...
02:03 rubenwardy Blue Snowballs ain't cheap
02:03 rubenwardy if this becomes a real thing, then I'll get a snowball
02:03 rubenwardy until then I just need a mic where I'm legible
02:04 benrob0329 you can be legible with a cell phone
02:04 rubenwardy not very convenient to record
02:04 benrob0329 the important thing is not having a crappy environment
02:05 benrob0329 like, put some pillows or blankets up on the wall so that you don't echo
02:06 rubenwardy good idea
02:06 benrob0329 also don't have a really loud fan, and don't be super quite
02:07 benrob0329 don't turn down your mic volume to hide external noise, get rid of the noise
02:07 benrob0329 talk closer to your mic, and turn it up (not so much that you clip)
02:09 rubenwardy thanks for the advice :)
02:10 benrob0329 np, I've been doing this for a few years so I've learned some tricks :-)
02:17 JordachNote8 Reuben, ive considered doing live streams of solar plains
02:17 JordachNote8 Also, the microsoft lifecams are fantastic microphones
02:17 JordachNote8 No, really, theyre fucking awesome
02:18 JordachNote8 Plus theyre a decent facecam too, if you're into that
02:18 rubenwardy *ruben
02:18 paramat language please
02:18 JordachNote8 I own the 3xxx 720p series
02:18 benrob0329 suure, because cheap cam mics are amazing
02:18 JordachNote8 It did cost like £34
02:18 benrob0329 hah
02:19 JordachNote8 It does hear people across the room and the neibouring toilet
02:19 benrob0329 and that's a good thing?
02:19 JordachNote8 It hears everything, whole reason for me using push to talk
02:19 rubenwardy ...that's not good
02:20 JordachNote8 Just use a filter and use a curve for voice activity
02:20 benrob0329 I use an AT2020, very good mic
02:20 JordachNote8 (I generally use a -20db muting because its good at hearing things)
02:20 benrob0329 only $80 (xlr mics are cheaper than USB if youre not going professional)
02:21 JordachNote8 >USB
02:21 JordachNote8 Heres a good joke
02:21 benrob0329 yes, USB mics are only as good as your sound card :-)
02:22 JordachNote8 Whats the difference between a DAC and an onboard DAC
02:22 JordachNote8 Nothing, its all schiit all the way down
02:23 JordachNote8 Electrical noise will always be present and cannot be avoided
02:23 benrob0329 an external DAC is usually much better than the one on your motherboard
02:23 benrob0329 yes, because analog noise is soo much better
02:23 * JordachNote8 looks at SoundBlaster Z
02:24 JordachNote8 I dont own anything decent
02:24 JordachNote8 Wired into a high end hifi amp
02:25 JordachNote8 With some thicc speaker cable so the kittens dont chew it
02:26 * benrob0329 sets up backup server
02:26 JordachNote8 OwO *notices your backups*
02:27 benrob0329 Nextcloud, rsync, and ssh keys
02:27 JordachNote8 Benrob, most modern motherboards separate noise as well as most external DACs
02:27 JordachNote8 Espcially some of the nee ASUS mobos
02:27 benrob0329 but they don't have phantom power :-)
02:28 benrob0329 I can also plug my speakers directly into my mixer, which simplifies the software setup
02:28 JordachNote8 That are ryzen based with configurable ohm outputs
02:30 * benrob0329 wonders why his backup server is soo slow
02:30 benrob0329 oh yeah, because I can't afford a faster one
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03:06 paramat =)
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03:58 ThomasMonroe night all
04:50 rubenwardy red-001, now you're around again, are you going to get back into development? ;)
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07:13 Megaf benrob0329: hah
07:13 Megaf Define backup server though
07:19 Megaf Oh, with rsync and stuuf
07:20 Megaf rubenwardy: you have videos on YouTube already or not yet?
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08:07 MinetestBot nerzhul: Dec-16 21:51 UTC <rubenwardy> please may you update this: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=14722
08:08 nerzhul rubenwardy, hmmm update with what ? all is merged :p
08:55 Megaf Morning CWz nerzhul
09:17 nerzhul hi Megaf
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09:43 Megaf Morning Krock
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09:44 Krock morning Megaf
09:45 Megaf Flying to Frankfurt in a couple of hours
09:45 Megaf Not sure what do do there...
09:46 Megaf I will have around 10 hours to kill at the airport
09:46 Megaf Gonna play lots of minetest I guess
09:48 Krock what's going on today? https://i.imgur.com/ZoVIrv4.png
09:48 Krock Megaf, kill hours or kill people? o.O'
09:49 Megaf Eh, not killing people today
09:53 Megaf Just hope that my powerbank last for the whole trip
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10:29 Megaf What's up with these random nicks?
10:29 Megaf ca307, as840, suz69, che737 and kowe457
10:43 Krock spammers
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10:53 Megaf hm
11:11 Megaf https://www.tunnelbear.com/b/privacy-partners/ not opening here
11:11 Megaf "Peer failed to perform TLS handshake"
11:11 Megaf Not a good first impression from TunnelBear
11:12 Megaf Folks, which free dns domain you recommend?
11:28 Megaf meh, boarding will begin in 40 min and there's lots of people in line already
11:28 Megaf comon
11:28 Megaf why don't they just stay in their seats and go to the gate in an orderen fashion?
11:29 Megaf The plane will not depart so soon
11:29 Megaf and everybody have to wait anyway
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11:54 JordachNote8 Megaf just use PIA
11:54 JordachNote8 Christ almighty :^)
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11:58 IhrFussel That's weird...I wanted to make my website officially HTML5 but when I add the doctype tag all browsers seem to ignore my max-height div properties ... anyone here got a clue?
11:59 IhrFussel It's the server website so not really offtopic
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13:15 Jordach IhrFussel, dtime is really useless when server lag in dtime goes over 1 sec
13:15 Jordach using seconds when it ticks at 0.09s is fine
13:15 Jordach but when it has to do hundreds of things when dtime gets overloaded
13:15 Jordach it just makes it worse, unfortunatelyu
13:18 IhrFussel Jordach, minetest.after() uses register_globalstep() just like any other dtime callback
13:18 IhrFussel There is nothing else...you cannot make it more accurate than "dtime"
13:19 Krock minetest.get_us_time()
13:20 IhrFussel Krock, I mean when you want to execute something at a precise time interval there is nothing more accurate than a globalstep because Lua doesn't run in between globalsteps simply
13:20 Krock while (minetest.get_us_time() < some_high_number) do end  :P
13:20 Jordach IhrFussel, and minetest.after is a cleaner soloution
13:21 Krock the timing will be accurate but yeah, it can't run in a higher frequency than globalstep
13:21 Jordach may actually be possible
13:21 IhrFussel minetest.after() is just a globalstep with added arguments
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13:22 Jordach do i smell heresy
13:23 IhrFussel Did you ever look into after.lua? I did last night and I see nothing magic in it that would make it somehow more accurate or more reliable than using register_globalstep() direcrly in a mod
13:23 Jordach IhrFussel, it feels more reliable
13:23 Jordach rather, reinvent the whole wheel again
13:24 IhrFussel minetest.after() globalstep only checks once per second so actually it's LESS accurate than a globalstep
13:25 IhrFussel Or wait I might've mixed it up..one sec
13:28 IhrFussel Ok correction: It runs 100% the same as any other globalstep ... doesn't matter if the mod uses either of them... minetest.after() has the advantage of remembering a function for X seconds while inside register_globalstep() you have to compare the times yourself ... but minetest.after() also has at least 1 disadvantage: It only runs once ... you need to trigger it again for it to run again
13:30 IhrFussel I use minetest.after() for example when I want to remove a certain HUD after X seconds from a player screen ... in this case minetest.after() is better suited ... but if you have a mod that checks the player pos on each step minetest.after() would be terrible
13:44 Krock !tell ThomasMonroe https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/pull/6796#issuecomment-352254876 It's about the x86 Android build. I doubt you've installed that OS on your computer
13:44 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when ThomasMonroe is around
13:44 Krock <3 MinetestBot
13:44 MinetestBot <3 Krock
13:44 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
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13:49 IhrFussel Krock, barely anyone uses x86 Android on PC correct? The only way I know of running it is in Virtual Box
13:50 Jordach QEMU works
13:50 Jordach (from what i've tested)
13:50 Krock x86 is not restricted to PCs, but I imagine other uses of that processor architecture aren't too popular like ARM is
13:51 Krock playing Minetest on a toaster is the feature! (not talking of old Pentium II machines with a Riva TNT card)
13:52 Krock s/feature/future/
13:58 Fixer i've played on Riva back in the day, Colin McRae Rally *cough*
14:00 Fixer Riva TNT 2 Vanta iirc
14:08 Calinou Fixer: Richard Burns Rally anyone? :P
14:08 Calinou I only played its demo though
14:08 Calinou but I know a guy who is a big fan of it
14:08 Fixer nope
14:08 Calinou (the Stunt Rally developer)
14:08 Fixer Colin Mc Rally, Need For Speed 3
14:11 Calinou I also played the NFSMW demo too
14:11 Krock Not For Safe Madness Work
14:11 Calinou :D
14:12 Calinou fun fact: there's a popular Node.js library called NSFW
14:12 Aerozoic I was pro back on the original NSFMW  lol
14:12 Krock get your security belt then
14:12 Calinou its module name is even "nsfw"
14:12 Krock xD
14:13 * Calinou left his PC up overnight to download Steam WINE games
14:13 Calinou the perks of ADSL
14:13 Fixer also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/Star_Wars_Episode_I:_Racer
14:13 Calinou Fixer: there's an open source reimplementation going on
14:13 Calinou that game was my childhood :D
14:13 Fixer mine too
14:13 Calinou https://github.com/OpenSWE1R/openswe1r
14:13 Fixer i played it briefly
14:13 Fixer along with NFS
14:13 Fixer Q1
14:13 Fixer etc
14:15 Calinou wow, KWin crashed entirely and didn't automatically restart
14:15 Calinou I restarted it by hand, which wasn't easy as TF2 is running
14:15 Calinou (and was on top)
14:17 Fixer also, https://en.wikipedia.org/w​iki/F-16_Multirole_Fighter
14:17 Calinou god, it crashed again
14:17 Fixer played it on W95
14:17 Fixer OSR2 with that INTERNET EXPLORER INCLUDED !!!!1113211
14:18 Calinou >when the Windows 10 ISO downloads at 200 KB/s connection despite your connection being able to download 1.3 MB/s
14:21 sfan5 you only have 13 Mbit/s?
14:23 Fixer i only have 2
14:23 Fixer .______________.
14:26 Fixer Calinou: DL win7 iso instead, W10 is useless
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14:32 Fixer there was provocative articled about DX12/Vulkan, it said the whole thing is a bust and did not take off and offer little benefits or performs worse
14:37 Calinou lol, no
14:37 Calinou sfan5: 11 Mb/s download, yeah
14:37 Calinou and 1 Mb/s upload
14:37 Calinou that's good ADSL actually
14:37 Calinou but still ADSL
14:37 Calinou (the average speed in France is 7 Mb/s for ADSL)
14:37 sfan5 oof
14:38 Calinou before late 2012, I had 2 Mb/s!
14:38 Calinou and 0.3 Mb/s upload
14:38 Calinou since March 2015, I have 11/1
14:38 Calinou (but worse ping than before…)
14:45 Fixer Calinou: 1Mbit upload is even worse than mine
14:45 Fixer Calinou: why they suck with upload?
14:45 Calinou yeah, I can't stream at all
14:45 Calinou because it's ADSL?
14:46 Calinou it's not even VDSL2 (my brother has that)
14:46 Calinou he has something like 35/4
14:46 Fixer my ISP does not even restricts upload for higher priced plan
14:46 Calinou we only have one speed for ADSL here
14:46 Calinou (and uncapped data)
14:47 Fixer if your line can do 3mbit upload, it will upload
14:47 Fixer while my speed sucks, it is unlimited pretty much
14:48 Fixer i have 100gb of traffic in both directions per month
14:48 Calinou 3 Mb/s upload isn't a thing in ADSL, only in VDSL2
14:48 Calinou the max in ADSL is 2 Mb/s and that's very rare
14:48 Fixer Calinou: i have 2mbit upload
14:48 Fixer 2/2 plan pretty much
14:51 Fixer why mc is fun and mtg is not https://minecraft.gamepedia.c​om/Tutorials/Minecart_booster
14:51 Fixer one of the reasons
14:52 Calinou only 2 Mb/s download? is it SDSL?
14:54 Fixer Calinou: megabit*
14:54 Calinou Mb = Megabit
14:54 Calinou MB = Megabyte
14:54 Fixer Calinou: ADSL2
15:21 rubenwardy Megaf, I do have videos, but only one with my voice
15:26 Calinou I have an hard time imagining people's voice :D but I guess that's everyon,e
15:26 Calinou everyone*
15:39 Krock rubenwardy, nice idea with discussion #3 but I tend to work randomly on stuff I've ran into
15:39 Krock so predictions are very hard :3
15:39 rubenwardy well, it's optional
15:39 Krock that just for letting you know
15:39 rubenwardy and the important bit is giving opinions on development rather than specific goals
15:39 rubenwardy but no worries
15:41 Fixer I"VE GOT ENOUGH TO BEAT A MEME
15:41 Fixer Calinou: easy, rubenwardy has typical UK voice, end of story
15:41 rubenwardy :D
15:42 Krock Fixer, you can't beat memes. They only let beat themselves due Chuck Norris
15:44 rubenwardy alright gov'ner
15:44 rubenwardy fancy a cuppa
15:44 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfuwF_oC_0
15:45 Jordach cheers luv
15:45 Jordach the cavalries here
15:47 rubenwardy how now, brown cow
15:48 rubenwardy damn it
15:48 rubenwardy afk, making tea
15:48 rubenwardy as in a cuppa
15:49 Jordach i've already got one rubenwardy, with english breakfast teabags
16:24 Fixer heh, hand bugs in mc beta
16:24 Fixer reminded me of our recent ones
16:25 rubenwardy ha
16:25 rubenwardy HANNDDSS
16:25 Jordach rubenwardy, but do you have unique per player custom hands?
16:25 Jordach all i want is to redefine textures on the fly
16:25 rubenwardy we do
16:25 Jordach for nodes and items
16:26 rubenwardy I forget what the API is
16:26 rubenwardy but you can have per player hands
16:26 Jordach rubenwardy, https://jordach.net/images/guzrdmtzenlcmvzfba.gif
16:26 rubenwardy your URLs make me sad
16:26 rubenwardy :D
16:26 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/Solar_Plain​s/blob/master/mods/wardrobe/hands.lua
16:26 Jordach rubenwardy, ^
16:28 Jordach because i need to layer a bunch of shit and have the node which is used as the hand registration
16:28 Jordach doing that on the fly may not be possible
16:30 Jordach i've wondered if modifying the node registry table
16:30 Jordach woukld work
16:35 Fixer looool
16:36 Fixer probably will crash beta server, megahuge cactus farm entities over 4000
16:36 Krock Jordach, emoji spinner
16:37 Jordach Krock, https://jordach.net/images/wzuigqzsetmmsxnay.gif
16:38 Krock perfect loop again.
16:47 Fixer mc beta, 4000 entities, getting about 0.2 fps
17:10 Krock minetest, 4000 entities = ?
17:11 rubenwardy will be flippin' slow, given we use a O(n^2) algorithm
17:12 Fixer Krock: it is already slow at 100 entities iirc
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17:52 Jordach reee
17:54 Fixer rubenwardy: i've checked mobs_redo, they still have INSTATURN
17:54 rubenwardy huh
17:54 rubenwardy maybe it's players that interpolate just due to step size
17:55 Fixer rubenwardy: is not there was PR recently by Krock to interpolate smth?
17:55 rubenwardy looks like it just improves which way the entity interpolates
17:56 IhrFussel Fixer, I manually patched my mobs_redo with the PR content and the mobs now turn slower..of course not fluent still
17:56 Krock blame points at me?
17:56 Fixer not really blame
17:56 Fixer maybe we should bump tenplus1 or smth
17:57 Fixer to fix mobs
17:57 Fixer maybe even write in news about this new feature
17:57 Krock was it already used there? I guess that required some ugly workarounds
17:58 Fixer is this one about mob rotation? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/089f594582862d041a5bf3fa0f41d637248e31de
17:59 Krock yes, but only when automatic_face_movement_dir is specified in the object properties
17:59 IhrFussel The mobs turn definitely slower, not by much though..it's fully lag dependend..if the server has a 0.5 sec lag it will still be instant turn
18:00 IhrFussel Or are you talking about some new thing in 0.5.0-dev?
18:01 Fixer new thing in 0.5.0
18:01 IhrFussel Mobs Redo isn't 0.5.0 compatible I think
18:01 Fixer i'm running it just now
18:01 IhrFussel Or at least I think ten won't break the compat yet
18:01 Krock why not? there's no API breakage
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18:02 IhrFussel Well if mobs redo uses that new entity property it might behave weird in 0.4.X? not sure
18:03 Fixer you can always have several branches of mod, one for 0.4.17 and one for 0.5.0, and download buttons to both
18:06 Krock download? clone everything
18:11 Krock Minetest is a girl. https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments​/7kb78u/damn_girl_are_you_a_newspaper/
18:16 Megaf rubenwardy: Yep, I watched some of your videos
18:16 Megaf by the way, I'm in the airplane :)
18:17 Megaf They are finishing the boarding
18:20 Roger9 is there a way to change the textures of an object (not its definition, but an actual object that's been spawned)?
18:20 Krock yes
18:21 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game​/blob/master/mods/player_api/api.lua#L45
18:22 Krock get the objectref instead of the player to call set_properties and it will work just fine
18:23 Krock !next
18:23 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
18:23 Roger9 Yay!
18:25 Fixer !back
18:29 Roger9 how can I tell if the object is resting on a block as opposed to in the air?
18:30 Megaf Fixer: After some reboots and updates Wifi came back to life
18:30 Megaf and nouveau driver is working
18:31 Fixer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:31 Megaf So I will just keep using nouveau for now
18:31 Megaf and when wifi fails, there's always bluetooth as backup.
18:31 Fixer nouveau is no-go on new nvidias
18:32 Megaf yep, old nvidia here, 320M
18:32 Krock Roger9, perhaps check the velocity against being 0 for all axis?
18:32 IhrFussel Guy joins server and says "Hey guys join my super cool server 127.0.0.1:30001"
18:32 Megaf I will keep testing nouveu driver, if it's working well I might just make it the default
18:32 Krock IhrFussel, connection timed out
18:33 Roger9 Krock: well, I'm checking to see if it's *on* the ground so I could check the velocity on the Y axis, but meh...
18:33 Krock IhrFussel, same situation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comme​nts/72ilfe/lets_help_them_share_their_success/
18:33 Roger9 what if I temporarily set the velocity to be downwards, and check to see if the velocity actually got set to downwards or if it was set to 0?
18:33 Krock Roger9, let the collision calculation do that for you
18:34 Roger9 Krock: I want the object to bounce when it hits collision, though.
18:35 Krock then cache the velocity of the previous step
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18:36 Megaf 0.6 Seconds lag on 2G tethered using Bluetooth. Not too bad.
18:36 Megaf 0.2*
18:36 Megaf And roaming.
18:36 Megaf and inside an airplane
18:39 Fixer IhrFussel: lol
18:39 Jordach wait until you hit the ocean
18:39 Jordach gib pics
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18:46 Megaf $ uname -a
18:46 Megaf Linux Aluminium 4.14.0-1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.14.2-1 (2017-11-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
18:46 Megaf Lovely Kernel ^
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18:51 Roger9 Krock: velocity doesn't seem to be set to 0 on collision
18:51 Megaf time to go into airplane mode, taking off soon. cya
18:52 Roger9 because that's what my code is currently looking for, and it doesn't seem to be doing anything
18:52 Megaf 11:30 hours of flight
18:52 Krock Roger9, Y velocity should be at least near zero (say, 0.001)
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18:55 Roger9 Krock: that still doesn't seem to work
18:55 Roger9 for the x axis I'm using "(math.abs(v.x) < vThreshold) and (math.abs(ov.x) > dThreshold)", where ov is the old velocity
18:55 Roger9 local vThreshold = 0.005; local dThreshold = 0.01
18:58 Krock are you sure the old velocity is updated correctly? That code looks good
18:59 Roger9 nope, turns out I missed a "self." and was instead setting "old_velocity" as a global variable
19:00 Roger9 yay, it works!
19:02 Krock *yay*
19:05 Calinou where is Megaf going to?
19:05 Calinou (and where from?)
19:06 Roger9 hm
19:06 Roger9 which version of lua does minetest use?
19:06 Roger9 should I use math.atan2 or math.atan?
19:06 Jordach 5.1.2
19:06 Jordach (usually LuaJIT)
19:08 Roger9 yay!
19:11 Krock Roger9, atan2 if you want correct rotation signs
19:15 rubenwardy 5.1.4, actually
19:15 Calinou Lua 5.2 and 5.3 aren't supported
19:15 Calinou we're stuck in a corner with LuaJIT 5.1 :)
19:15 rubenwardy but it may be different if you use system lua or luajit
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19:23 Roger9 ??
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20:28 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
21:09 Fixer ha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V59YdBfDwQ
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22:01 Fixer o_O https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kc7OfjdEJ4
22:05 Roger9 https://i.imgur.com/gGPOWpD.png
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22:44 IhrFussel Is it safe to set chunksize in minetest.conf for an already existing world? Or could it corrupt something?
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