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00:09 benrob0329 joined #minetest-hub
00:10 benrob0329 o/
00:12 garywhite There is now a Minetest-specific image hosting site at pics.planetminetest.ml. Feel free to take a look
00:12 garywhite (WIP)
00:15 benrob0329 garrywhite: wont load for me
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00:34 benrob0329 Hi paramat
00:38 garywhite Try mtimg,ml
00:43 benrob0329 That works
00:45 benrob0329 Id probably change thd background image to something MT related however
00:49 garywhite Working on it
00:49 garywhite It'll be done in a little while
01:29 paramat hi benrob0329 i just remembered you tried my moonrealm mod, it has been updated with a new mapgen and a moon rover https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&t=6329
01:30 benrob0329 paramat: oh, cool!
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02:00 octacian Wait.. The player collision box ISN'T static?
02:02 octacian ugh so confusing
02:02 octacian Guess it is
02:02 octacian Why is taht?
02:02 octacian *that
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04:18 benrob0329 !ping
04:18 ShadowBot pong
04:18 VanessaE hi/
04:22 benrob0329 VanessaE: o/
04:29 octacian Night all
04:29 nore night
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05:15 benrob0329 greetings kaeza
05:15 kaeza meow
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07:40 nerzhul yeah: nearly complete: https://gitlab.com/nerzhul/​minetest/pipelines/7760565 :D just need to fix the leveldb package on failed builds :)
08:26 shivajiva Morning folks
08:27 VanessaE hi
08:58 red-000 does archive.org have an api to save pages?
08:58 nerzhul fucking oldcoder sending me fucking message
08:58 nerzhul seems thunderbird doesn't have an ignore list i should use another client at work
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09:04 red-000 bad connection?
09:04 VanessaE well he finally forced my hand.  first time in years I've had to /ignore someone
09:04 red-000 OC?
09:04 VanessaE yeah
09:05 nerzhul VanessaE, same thing :)
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12:27 shivajiva Hi Fixer o/
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12:33 Fixer hi
12:33 VanessaE hi
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12:53 CWz a VanessaE
12:53 * CWz is reading chatlogs regarding a ddos
12:55 sfan5 keep your popcorn ready
13:16 Jordach wat
13:17 * Jordach needs context and what channel
13:25 CWz Jordach, #minetest-dev (irc logs) keywords: OldCoder, DDOS, rampage.
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13:27 Jordach CWz, have a pint, and wait for this to all blow over https://media.giphy.com/med​ia/Zw3oBUuOlDJ3W/giphy.gif
13:33 Jordach it appears i sensed something wrong when asleep ths morning
13:34 * Jordach thinks this goes further back
13:34 Jordach it's not OC's fault here what's going on
13:35 Jordach i see it now
13:35 benrob0329 Hm?
13:35 Jordach it goes back a few years
13:37 Jordach Minetest was considerably more community like
13:37 Calinou hi benrob0329
13:37 Calinou hi Jordach
13:37 Jordach and actually, the biggest remark was our favourite Polish shader merchant
13:37 Calinou I remember OldCoder when he joined, he already kept saying blank lines on IRC :)
13:39 Jordach somewhere between 2013-15 is where it occurred
13:39 Jordach specifically
13:39 Jordach basically, core devs stopped being elitist at that time
13:39 Jordach it is also the time when RBA "left"
13:40 Jordach (i would assume it's the new core devs who would've more openly accepted his pulls now)
13:41 Jordach (see so-far, nrzk-t, etc)
13:45 Jordach basically, i woke up when RBA shouldn't be here
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13:54 Jordach shivajiva, i'm suspicious we didn;t get the full details
13:55 shivajiva from whom?
13:56 Jordach i'm suspicious about the messages from RBA's family
13:56 Jordach there's a missing story here
13:56 shivajiva yea I realise that is why you used the term 'left'
13:56 Jordach RBA never told us he had heart problems
13:56 Jordach that there is a flag on it's onw
13:57 shivajiva why would he though?
13:57 Jordach you ask me ;)
13:57 shivajiva only OC has stated medical problems in this community afaik
13:58 Jordach now you understand why i'm suspicous
13:58 Jordach he finished the minimap then vanished, i wonder
13:58 Jordach i didn't pay attention as i was busy getting college done
13:59 shivajiva more suspicious is the fact a friend of his was able to access everything on his computer and ask for donations
13:59 Jordach i didn't pay attention as i was busy getting college done
13:59 Jordach feck
13:59 Jordach i hit up arrow and then enter
13:59 Jordach lmao
13:59 shivajiva :)
13:59 Jordach hammer head -> nail
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14:00 Jordach he would've told me specifically, as i tested technic for him on VE-S
14:00 Jordach (or was it an OC server)
14:01 CWz Controversy? i am confused
14:01 Jordach CWz, RBA got up and left after finishing the minimap
14:02 Jordach wouldn't he have never finished it if it was for "real"
14:02 shivajiva regardless of all this one thing is for sure, his friends here don't need to be distressed, the only person that brought it up was OC
14:02 Jordach shivajiva, RBA did talk to OC frequently
14:03 Jordach i may be able to restore my old Quassel logs
14:03 Jordach i have the original database before it
14:03 shivajiva I believe so, RBA checked me out discreetly, he built on skyblocks amongst other places
14:05 shivajiva I actually finished his last build and protected it as a kind of memorial :/
14:06 * Jordach loads the 300k SQLITE
14:06 CWz So what's really going on here
14:08 * Jordach now pulls apart the 300mb quassel storage
14:08 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/hsOwd7N.png
14:09 CWz this reaching creepypasta territory
14:09 Jordach CWz, it's a good thing i backed up my quassel storage
14:11 benrob0329 I am done with this shit.
14:11 * Jordach crashed the DB browser
14:11 benrob0329 You know, I looked up to OC. Guess I was mistaken.
14:12 shivajiva I think a lot of us did benrob
14:12 Fixer what the actual fuck what tha?
14:13 benrob0329 A child, Fixer. Or that's what it looks like anyways.
14:14 * Jordach is extracting the entire RBA backlog
14:15 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​hGv6k3-2D3s&feature=youtu.be found these; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atJ_lovDYWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​F7LcggphDeA&feature=youtu.be
14:15 Fixer Jordach: one minetest, one codebase, one kwolekr
14:15 * Fixer keks
14:16 Jordach Fixer, quassel put it in UNIX time, fun fact
14:16 Jordach 1418330005
14:17 Fixer Jordach: btw, don't worry about elitism, when kwolekr goes back from whatever megahugeglobalcorp - we are fuuuuuuuuucked
14:18 shivajiva I think I need some reference to understand that :P
14:18 Fixer it will halt, because not quality enough, each review needs to be at least 30 min with actual reading of code and testing-testing-testing, so minetest is ready for usage in production on your nuclear power plant control VAX machine
14:19 benrob0329 Lol
14:20 CWz minetest sure seems to attract some weirdo nowadays
14:20 CWz *weirdos
14:20 shivajiva thanks =)
14:21 Fixer CWz: that was already noted in -dev long time ago
14:22 * shivajiva boots up tb to check the news
14:25 shivajiva defamatory of upstream as expected
14:25 Jordach using a ton of CPU time to export that thing into it's own libreoffice table
14:26 Zeno` Are you guys seriously suggesting that RBA is alive?
14:26 Jordach Zeno`, something doesn't feel right at all
14:26 benrob0329 Yes, they are.
14:26 Zeno` Look. He died. It's sad. DROP IT
14:27 Zeno` FFS. Don't all turn into paranoid idiots like OC
14:27 benrob0329 I've heard some conspiracies in my time, this takes the cake.
14:27 Fixer Jordach: vanessa heared about rba hearth problems iirc
14:27 red-000 this RBA is alive stuff really annoys me on so many levels
14:27 Zeno` Next you'll be tellin be that he's living with Elvis and Diana princess of Wales
14:28 CWz Hey sir Zeno`
14:28 Zeno` just stop it. It's an atrocity to his memory
14:28 red-000 ^
14:29 Zeno` hi CWz
14:30 CWz i wonder what happened with him, he was always 'unique', but lately he seemd to go off the deep end with all these accusations and "de-escalations"
14:31 Fixer Zeno`: +1
14:32 red-000 -> #minetest-conspiracies
14:35 CWz Zeno`-sama, how are you?
14:35 Zeno` right now? Sick of all the shit that is going on :D
14:36 Jordach CWz, i'm broken by what's happened to me for years
14:36 * red-000 looks for a japanese honorifics cheat sheet
14:36 * Jordach is unable to emotionally process things
14:36 CWz Actually i was talking about OC
14:39 red-000 huh so -sama is suppose to be the most formal
14:41 * CWz spots VanessaE-sama sleeping on tree branch
14:41 red-000 now how do I use it to be sarcastic?
14:45 benrob0329 You know, someone once said they hated sarcasm. you wanna know what my reply was?
14:46 benrob0329 *sarcastic response*
15:37 benrob0329 !ping
15:37 ShadowBot pong
15:37 red-000 !pong
15:46 benrob0329 Has anyone here used Haiku? (The BeOS clone)
15:46 Jordach no
15:47 benrob0329 Does anyone really use it at all?
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15:50 Jordach no
15:53 VanessaE Jordach: RBA told me about his heart problems some months before his death.
15:53 VanessaE he had severe high blood pressure
15:54 Jordach VanessaE, aye
15:54 VanessaE but that's all I can remember
15:54 VanessaE my grep-fu isn't very good or I'd dig through my logs for more
15:54 VanessaE also, you can export quassel logs to plain text, there's some tool for the purpose on the site.
15:54 Jordach VanessaE, quassel put them in SQL so searching is reasonable easier
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16:21 Krock hello
16:21 VanessaE hi
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17:02 CWz ello Vanessa of E
17:03 garywhite Can someone grant rdococ voice?
17:03 Krock I thought it was anessaE of V, CWz
17:03 benrob0329 Vanessa, daughter of E.
17:05 Shara Hi :P
17:05 rdococ hi
17:05 * CWz wonders if Dococ is short for Doctor Octopus
17:06 VanessaE HI, CWz
17:06 * rdococ wonders if CWz was short for ClockWise Zakk
17:06 * rdococ starts thinking about linguistics
17:06 CWz Uh, who's he?
17:06 VanessaE ChaosWormz, actuallyt
17:06 VanessaE -t
17:07 rdococ well, now I'm thinking about string addition and subtraction :P
17:07 rubenwardy red-000 ++
17:07 rdococ rdococ++ :P
17:07 rdococ oh look, now C++ is in my name :P
17:07 rubenwardy :)
17:07 rdococ (rdococ#)
17:08 rdococ red-001 += 999
17:08 Wayward_One benrob0329, i've used Haiku
17:08 Wayward_One it's pretty decent
17:08 benrob0329 Looks like it needs a facelift to me
17:08 rdococ and that is how you subtract with addition :P
17:09 red-000 well that annoyed some people on the minecraft channel
17:09 red-000 lol
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17:09 red-000 I guess I change my nick too much
17:09 red-000 hi Thomas-S
17:09 red-000 eh
17:10 red-000 I mean ThomasMonroe
17:10 Thomas-S Hi, red-000! (Although you didn't mean me)  :)
17:11 benrob0329 red += red + 2
17:11 rdococ I tend to never change my nick, because otherwise every channel I'm on will notice
17:11 rdococ benrob0329, how do you perform arithmetic on colors?
17:11 rdococ :P
17:11 VanessaE 'red' is a variable, duh :)
17:11 rdococ ik :P
17:12 red-002 base10_int red = 2;
17:12 rdococ of course, red-002 != red // infact, red-002 == red - 2
17:12 benrob0329 red += (-2)
17:12 benrob0329 Wait, ah crap
17:14 rdococ hm
17:14 rdococ red = 1 / 0
17:14 red-000 red-NaN
17:14 VanessaE haha
17:14 benrob0329 *univers implodes*
17:15 red-000 I'm accually get that nick now
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17:16 red-000 if I remember how to drop nicks again
17:16 nerzhul o
17:16 benrob0329 Msg NickServe drop nick
17:28 roben1430 I should register this nick
17:30 ThomasMonroe thanks Shara
17:30 red-NaN yes, yes you should
17:31 Shara ThomasMonroe: you're welcome :)
17:38 CWz i wonder if anyone has made a client side mod yet
17:39 Shara I thought there were a couple already, but haven't checked them.
17:40 red-NaN CWz, they have
17:41 red-NaN I made a chat logger
17:41 rdococ red = string.concat("your", red)
17:42 rdococ :P
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17:59 * VanessaE wanders off to sleep
18:01 CWz [rant] why does cocoa have an 'a' at the end? it's pronounced coco. damn human and their obsessive compulsive need to add superfluous letters to words.[/rant]
18:05 benrob0329 sfan5 tbh, I uses to think your name was stan5 :p
18:05 benrob0329 *used
18:06 CWz the [off] is a talisman for fortune and good luck
18:07 red-NaN us*
18:09 Shara Anyone who does not have auto-voice, feel free to PM me.
18:10 Jordach it does work, red-NaN
18:10 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/9LAOzNG.png
18:10 * red-NaN thinks thats really neat
18:10 sfan5 is that the_donald
18:10 Jordach no
18:11 benrob0329 I aught to make a bouncer
18:11 Sokomine hi. hm. problem with recent mt: it looks er...odd. what ought to be white has become blue. red seems to be missing. solid blocks still look perfectly ok in color - but all else (meshes, plants etc.) looks very blueish
18:12 benrob0329 Sokomine: Win or Linux?
18:12 sfan5 known bug
18:12 sfan5 already fixed
18:12 CWz it originated in 1680 BC, the [off] talisman was created by the 8 priests of the now defunct nation lacatraz in order to spook away, demons, evil spirits, lawyers, real estate agents, and tax collectors. later in 56 BC they were unearthed when the duke of another defunct state of smellulater was out on fart work, he tripped over it and discovered that he wasn't in smellulater but just a lunatic in some dank asylum, which of course turned out ot be false
18:12 CWz in the end, he still was in smellulater
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18:12 CWz dang to late now it not revent anymore
18:13 Jordach rekt
18:13 benrob0329 pwnd
18:14 * benrob0329 checks github
18:20 benrob0329 As for #5586 is light stored in a signed int?
18:21 rdococ if it is then we could have negative light, oooh
18:21 sfan5 i'm sure it isn#t
18:22 benrob0329 Unsigned byte :-(
18:22 Krock that copypasta..
18:23 Sokomine sfan5: thanks. *compiling again*
18:31 * rdococ decompiles a recompilation of nothing
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18:34 Krock good luck translating badass optimized machine code into assembler then into C(++) again
18:35 sofar hehe
18:40 * rdococ recompiles a decompilation of nothing
18:42 Fixer was reading todays -dev log, holy shit
18:44 red-NaN yeah
18:44 benrob0329 Should I learn C, or C++ if I'm planning on doing app/game dev?
18:44 sfan5 latter
18:45 paramat well duh
18:45 benrob0329 Mk, thanks
18:45 paramat MT is C++ :]
18:45 benrob0329 True :-)
18:45 paramat hehe
18:47 benrob0329 I've learned some cpp in the past, just dropped out of it for various reasons
18:48 benrob0329 I was learning C, as per OC's advice, but after a bit of reasesrch a lot of people say that you should just jump into (modern) Cpp first
18:52 Calinou yeah, no real point in C unless you're writing device drivers
18:53 Calinou games use C++ these days
18:53 Calinou Qt is C++, too
18:53 Calinou a lot of open source apps (qBittorrent, LibreOffice) are C++, as far as I know
18:53 Calinou Firefox too
18:53 Calinou benrob0329: I like http://www.learncpp.com/
18:53 Calinou (many ads, so use an ad blocker :P)
19:03 benrob0329 Heh, I always do (except youtube, I don't there
19:03 benrob0329 Ty
19:10 Hijiri C can be useful for library interfaces
19:10 Hijiri since basically everything that can call foreign code can call C code
19:16 lumidify C is beautiful
19:17 sofar there's no good answer btw
19:17 sofar if you have found a project that you would like to work on, then use what they are using
19:17 sofar if you really don't know, learn something that is generic enough to give you the skills to work on most projects
19:17 sofar iow, either c or c++ will give you plenty of skills
19:18 sofar c++ is heavily used in games, for good reasons
19:18 sofar but so is c# and a bunch of other languages
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19:18 paramat hint: MT uses C++
19:18 tenplus1 hi folks
19:18 lumidify http://9front.org/img/cmonks.png
19:19 Shara Hi Ten
19:19 tenplus1 hi Shara :P
19:20 lumidify Hi square root of 121
19:20 tenplus1 lol, hi lumidify
19:20 benrob0329 Hi tenplus1
19:21 tenplus1 hey ben
19:21 tenplus1 I see tin made it into default :P
19:21 benrob0329 \o/
19:21 benrob0329 \/
19:21 benrob0329 Crap
19:21 benrob0329 HoloIRC can't make a slash apparently
19:22 tenplus1 lol
19:22 benrob0329 \o/
19:22 benrob0329 \
19:22 benrob0329 Gosh dangit
19:23 tenplus1 We NEED these added now: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5622 and https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5255
19:23 Wayward_One Hi all :)
19:23 tenplus1 hi wayward
19:23 benrob0329 Hi
19:24 benrob0329 Does C++ still use free() ?
19:25 sofar yes
19:25 sofar but most stuff you would delete
19:26 sofar in C you can still malloc() memory, so free() still exists as well
19:26 sofar but most stuff you would allocate with new() and therefore delete() it
19:27 Fixer i'm not a programmer but what i dislike in c/cpp are those security issues, buffer overflows, etcetc
19:27 lumidify http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/
19:27 * lumidify hides
19:28 Fixer and java feels toxic
19:28 Fixer because oracle
19:28 Fixer not completely opensource
19:28 Fixer needs installing on windows
19:29 Fixer iirc long ago it was shipped with windows 98 or so
19:29 sofar unless you're a professional software developer, language choices are largely irrelevant
19:29 Calinou Java *is* fully open source
19:29 Calinou some implementations aren't
19:29 Calinou the documentation isn't
19:29 sofar raise your hand if you are a professional software developer
19:29 Calinou but other than that, there's no particular issue
19:29 * sofar raises hand
19:29 * tenplus1 raises foot
19:29 * Calinou raises hoof
19:29 Calinou :^)
19:29 tenplus1 :P
19:30 shivajiva Hi :)
19:30 Fixer Calinou: thats what i'm saying
19:30 tenplus1 hi shiva
19:30 Calinou C# also has no open source complete documentation, and patent issues may be more rampant than with Java
19:30 Calinou hi shivajiva
19:31 Fixer Calinou: isn't MS released it as open source now?
19:31 * benrob0329 raises potential future hand
19:31 Calinou Mono was already open sourced before Xamarin was bought by Microsoft, but under LGPL
19:31 Calinou now it's MIT-licensed
19:32 Fixer Calinou: java documentation is not open source? wth...
19:32 Calinou yeah
19:32 Calinou it's not on http://devdocs.io/ because of that
19:33 Fixer Calinou: special licence or completely closed?
19:34 Calinou bad enough to not be classifiable as "free documentation"
19:34 Calinou I don't know the details
19:34 Calinou community can't contribute too
19:34 Fixer lol, that sucks
19:35 Fixer how you gonna program in it if there is no docs?
19:37 Calinou there are docs, but you have to access it their way
19:37 Calinou if there are issues, you can't fix them yourself
19:38 Calinou I've found the Oracle sites to not be very convenient, too
19:44 benrob0329 std::cout << "Hello World!" << std::endl;
19:44 Fixer begin
19:44 Jordach >forgets int main()
19:45 benrob0329 Its a statement, not a program
19:45 * Fixer tries to surface his turbo pascal memory
19:45 rubenwardy char x = 0; size_t i = 0; while(1) { &x[i++] = 42; }
19:45 benrob0329 Jordach, you forgot #include anyways
19:46 Jordach lol
19:46 Fixer "Add mod store again"
19:47 benrob0329 begin
19:47 benrob0329 writeln("Hello world")
19:47 benrob0329 end
19:48 benrob0329 I think
19:48 benrob0329 Or does Oascal need ;
19:48 benrob0329 *Pascal
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19:59 * benrob0329 makes everyone mad by saying that he still plans on using GTK (gtkmm) with C++
19:59 tenplus1 hi tommy
19:59 tenplus1 lol ben
20:00 Shara hello TommyTreasure
20:02 shivajiva Hi TommyTreasure, wb :)
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20:07 red-NaN octacian_, are you using a bouncer or something?
20:08 tenplus1 hi octacian
20:08 octacian joined #minetest-hub
20:08 octacian red-NaN: Nope, just bad internet
20:11 TommyTreasure hello tenplus1, Shara, shivajiva
20:29 benrob0329 (Offtopic) https://youtu.be/06xFhUHFnx8
20:33 tenplus1 nite all
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20:35 sofar benrob0329: much more interesting: http://www.livescience.com/58723-su​perfluid-creates-negative-mass.html
20:37 Jordach one step closer to that albucurrie drive
20:38 rubenwardy Minetest Mods for Android v1.7.0 released, with fast scroller support: https://play.google.com/store/apps/detai​ls?id=com.rubenwardy.minetestmodmanager
20:38 rubenwardy (ie: you can drag the scroller, and letters come up)
20:38 Jordach aye
20:39 rubenwardy wish I could change that package name
20:39 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/mt​mods4android/releases/tag/v1.7.0
20:41 * Jordach goes to load the final logback entry in Quassel
20:42 nore sofar: http://gizmodo.com/no-scientists-didnt-jus​t-create-negative-mass-or-defy-1794525465
20:42 Jordach huh, it is processing despite being locked up
20:43 sofar oh yeah I knew that article wasn't entirely accurate
20:45 nore well, it's interesting... but when I saw it I thought "oh, yet another scientific discovery exaggerated by the media" :D
21:03 ThomasMonroe hey nore, have you ever looked up the electric universe theory?
21:04 nore ThomasMonroe: what do you mean?
21:04 ThomasMonroe have you looked into it at all?
21:09 nore I don't know what it is, so that's what I was asking :)
21:10 nore (no, I don't ever looked it up)
21:10 atorian37 does the command /clearobjects remove all animals owned by players?
21:11 ThomasMonroe ok nore
21:11 nore so what is it? :p
21:13 ThomasMonroe its a theory that every event that we give credit to gravity is actually a result of electromagnetism
21:17 atorian37 it's because a player wrote to me, that all his animals desappeared at once.
21:19 benrob0329 Could be a general clearobjects, or despawning
21:19 benrob0329 Minetest and consitent entities do not get along
21:19 nore ThomasMonroe: didn't know about that, might read a bit
21:19 benrob0329 (Are there any plans to fix that btw?)
21:20 ThomasMonroe its really interesting to think about, nore :)
21:20 benrob0329 I have theorized that myself, but I'm no quantum physicist: -)
21:22 atorian37 ok...so it's a feature not a bug? ;) I used /clearobjects but meant to clean the landscape from dropped items...not from animals.. :)
21:22 nore ThomasMonroe: can't find anything serious on it
21:23 ThomasMonroe the most ive found is on youtube, but ik how much it can be trusted ;)
21:24 benrob0329 atorian37: yes, clearobjects removes all entities. That should probably be split into two commands
21:24 Sokomine hmm. do we have a mechanism for renaming files in order to create a backup (of a schematic)?
21:25 atorian37 ah ok, I better do not use this anymore to be sure not do clean the animals...
21:26 Sokomine yes, that negative mass did sound very intresting but also seemed to be depicted rather imprecise...maybe there are better articles about it somewhere than the one i read in a newspaper
21:26 Sokomine atorian37: mobs are entities and thus get hit by clearallobjects as far as i know
21:27 atorian37 ok, got it, thank you... so it was me :(
21:27 benrob0329 As I said, should be a splic command
21:27 benrob0329 *split
21:28 benrob0329 Would that be a minetest or an mtg issue?
21:28 benrob0329 I pretty sure its a builtin command, but ive never looked
21:30 atorian37 it's a server command that is (as far as I undestand) is built in the base game.
21:33 benrob0329 http://news.softpedia.com/news/atom-1-17​-open-source-hackable-text-editor-to-get​-a-50-boost-in-startup-time-514995.shtml
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21:50 ThomasMonroe hi sofar
21:51 sofar had a major internet outage
22:03 Sokomine hmm. so the only way to do a backup of a schematic would be to spawn it somewhere and then creating it under the backup name. hmmm
22:05 Sokomine or, hm. i can write files to the worldfolder anyway...thus a copy might be possible
22:05 * Sokomine mumbles to hershelf
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23:03 benrob0329 Hi Nathan21
23:07 * benrob0329 goes back to editing a video
23:09 Nathans21 Hi ben
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23:32 benrob0329 o/ paramat
23:32 * VanessaE peeks in
23:44 * paramat pokes out O_o
23:45 VanessaE you poke THERE again and you'll draw back a bloody stump
23:45 VanessaE ;)
23:46 Fixer good night
23:47 * Sokomine replaces that strange basic with some nicer lua
23:47 VanessaE HEY
23:47 VanessaE don't you rag on BASIC
23:47 VanessaE I cut my teeth on that farcockta language.
23:47 VanessaE :)
23:47 Sokomine :-)
23:48 Sokomine (as long as i don't have to learn it *veg*) :-)

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