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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2024-04-14

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09:43 sfan5 merging #14533, #14541 in 10m
09:43 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14533 -- Fix 4dir nodebox sometimes not rendering face by Wuzzy2
09:43 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14541 -- lua_api: Clarify some environment API functions by sfan5
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15:06 MTDiscord <luatic> it would be meeting time now. should we adjourn? it seems there are not enough core devs who have time, and i should probably also be doing something else right now.
15:08 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> there was one point from grorp, I don't know
15:12 MTDiscord <luatic> grorp unfortunately doesn't have time though
15:12 MTDiscord <luatic> and me, myself and I discussing grorp's point doesn't make a whole lot of sense ^^
15:18 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> alright then
15:28 rubenwardy !dev Meetings
15:28 ShadowBot Meetings - Minetest Developer Wiki -- http://dev.minetest.net/Meetings
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19:31 sfan5 regarding grorp's point: I bet there's other fixes that would also make sense in which case we perhaps rather do a proper 5.8.1
19:31 sfan5 ...which nobody wants to work on
20:00 [MTMatrix] <grorp> sfan5: a non-proper 5.8.1 which still brings some improvements is better than no 5.8.1 at all IMO
20:01 [MTMatrix] <grorp> a Play Store / Android only release should be easier to do than a normal patch release, you don't need to build and test on all platforms etc.
20:02 [MTMatrix] <grorp> my primary motivation for a patch release isn't be "ship the fixes faster" anyway, it is "get new data"
20:03 sfan5 yeah but I'm thinking if you have the overhead of a patch release why not ship all the fixes
20:03 sfan5 anyway I'm not again a small android-only 5.8.1, if someone wants to do it
20:03 sfan5 against*
20:04 [MTMatrix] <grorp> nice, I want to do it. unfortunately I don't have the privileges, so someone else would have to upload to the Play Store.
20:06 sfan5 rubenwardy or me should be able to
20:08 [MTMatrix] <grorp> 👍️. https://dev.minetest.net/Releasing_Minetest#Signing_APKs_for_the_Play_Store only lists nerzhul and rubenwardy
20:08 sfan5 I have access too but actually I don't remember if I have the signing key password
20:09 [MTMatrix] <grorp> I have read-only access.
20:09 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> aren't we getting closer to the 5.9 deadline anyway?
20:11 sfan5 maybe
20:11 sfan5 but I see some blockers in the milestone that don't look like they're getting solved soon
20:12 [MTMatrix] <grorp> maybe we need to prioritize them. "every core dev picks one regression and fixes it until May 1"
20:13 [MTMatrix] <grorp> were there so many regressions before previous releases as well, or is the amount something special?
20:15 sfan5 might as well not beat around the bush and say that I'm thinking of the inventory regressions
20:15 sfan5 🤷
20:15 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> it'd also be nice to have the CDB rework for 5.9. I think MT should show that it's actually focusing on graphics
20:16 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> I think we did a great job with settings in 5.8
20:22 [MTMatrix] <grorp> I agree. settings in 5.8, CDB in 5.9, what's next?
20:30 rubenwardy next up on my to do list is the key change menu and the select mods menu
20:30 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> right now it says that 5.9 is due to May 01. That's definitely unfeasibile
20:30 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> *unfeasible
20:30 rubenwardy 5.9 is due for when we finish the SDL work
20:31 rubenwardy may 1 is just a placeholder
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20:31 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> but people might rely on it. Let's move it to June 1?
20:32 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> that would also allow grorp to go for a 5.8.1 if they want, since 5.9 is not gonna get released anytime soon
20:38 sfan5 it would be nice to not delay 5.9 more because there are other important fixes in there
20:40 sfan5 one could argue we should release more often in general
20:47 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> 7 regressions, ouch
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23:17 MTDiscord <andrey2470t> It would be nice to delay 5.9 before June. I've started refactoring the wield mesh code and adding a new "mesh" HUD element the dual wielding will be based already on that. So, I hope I'll have time to do it during these two months.
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23:48 MTDiscord <herowl> Considering a feature freeze before release, it's unlikely. But then the May 1 is very unlikely, and (let's get real) a delay beyond June is also possible.
23:57 [MTMatrix] <Zughy> considering that 5.8 was released December 4, releasing around June 1 it'd be ~6 months after that. I personally think it makes sense as a date, maybe with a feature freeze May 12 (a Sunday, also a meeting day)

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