Time Nick Message 09:43 sfan5 merging #14533, #14541 in 10m 09:43 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14533 -- Fix 4dir nodebox sometimes not rendering face by Wuzzy2 09:43 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14541 -- lua_api: Clarify some environment API functions by sfan5 15:06 MTDiscord it would be meeting time now. should we adjourn? it seems there are not enough core devs who have time, and i should probably also be doing something else right now. 15:08 [MTMatrix] there was one point from grorp, I don't know 15:12 MTDiscord grorp unfortunately doesn't have time though 15:12 MTDiscord and me, myself and I discussing grorp's point doesn't make a whole lot of sense ^^ 15:18 [MTMatrix] alright then 15:28 rubenwardy !dev Meetings 15:28 ShadowBot Meetings - Minetest Developer Wiki -- http://dev.minetest.net/Meetings 19:31 sfan5 regarding grorp's point: I bet there's other fixes that would also make sense in which case we perhaps rather do a proper 5.8.1 19:31 sfan5 ...which nobody wants to work on 20:00 [MTMatrix] sfan5: a non-proper 5.8.1 which still brings some improvements is better than no 5.8.1 at all IMO 20:01 [MTMatrix] a Play Store / Android only release should be easier to do than a normal patch release, you don't need to build and test on all platforms etc. 20:02 [MTMatrix] my primary motivation for a patch release isn't be "ship the fixes faster" anyway, it is "get new data" 20:03 sfan5 yeah but I'm thinking if you have the overhead of a patch release why not ship all the fixes 20:03 sfan5 anyway I'm not again a small android-only 5.8.1, if someone wants to do it 20:03 sfan5 against* 20:04 [MTMatrix] nice, I want to do it. unfortunately I don't have the privileges, so someone else would have to upload to the Play Store. 20:06 sfan5 rubenwardy or me should be able to 20:08 [MTMatrix] 👍️. https://dev.minetest.net/Releasing_Minetest#Signing_APKs_for_the_Play_Store only lists nerzhul and rubenwardy 20:08 sfan5 I have access too but actually I don't remember if I have the signing key password 20:09 [MTMatrix] I have read-only access. 20:09 [MTMatrix] aren't we getting closer to the 5.9 deadline anyway? 20:11 sfan5 maybe 20:11 sfan5 but I see some blockers in the milestone that don't look like they're getting solved soon 20:12 [MTMatrix] maybe we need to prioritize them. "every core dev picks one regression and fixes it until May 1" 20:13 [MTMatrix] were there so many regressions before previous releases as well, or is the amount something special? 20:15 sfan5 might as well not beat around the bush and say that I'm thinking of the inventory regressions 20:15 sfan5 🤷 20:15 [MTMatrix] it'd also be nice to have the CDB rework for 5.9. I think MT should show that it's actually focusing on graphics 20:16 [MTMatrix] I think we did a great job with settings in 5.8 20:22 [MTMatrix] I agree. settings in 5.8, CDB in 5.9, what's next? 20:30 rubenwardy next up on my to do list is the key change menu and the select mods menu 20:30 [MTMatrix] right now it says that 5.9 is due to May 01. That's definitely unfeasibile 20:30 [MTMatrix] *unfeasible 20:30 rubenwardy 5.9 is due for when we finish the SDL work 20:31 rubenwardy may 1 is just a placeholder 20:31 [MTMatrix] but people might rely on it. Let's move it to June 1? 20:32 [MTMatrix] that would also allow grorp to go for a 5.8.1 if they want, since 5.9 is not gonna get released anytime soon 20:38 sfan5 it would be nice to not delay 5.9 more because there are other important fixes in there 20:40 sfan5 one could argue we should release more often in general 20:47 [MTMatrix] 7 regressions, ouch 23:17 MTDiscord It would be nice to delay 5.9 before June. I've started refactoring the wield mesh code and adding a new "mesh" HUD element the dual wielding will be based already on that. So, I hope I'll have time to do it during these two months. 23:48 MTDiscord Considering a feature freeze before release, it's unlikely. But then the May 1 is very unlikely, and (let's get real) a delay beyond June is also possible. 23:57 [MTMatrix] considering that 5.8 was released December 4, releasing around June 1 it'd be ~6 months after that. I personally think it makes sense as a date, maybe with a feature freeze May 12 (a Sunday, also a meeting day)