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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2015-06-11

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09:49 RealBadAngel hi guys
09:49 RealBadAngel whassup?
09:50 RealBadAngel btw in minimal game rendering of the world is broken
09:51 RealBadAngel its propably because of new water nodes
09:51 RealBadAngel also, occlussion is broken too
09:52 RealBadAngel enable fly, go at y+60 and look around
09:52 RealBadAngel blocks in the corners will dissapears
09:53 RealBadAngel -s
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10:49 john_cephalopoda y
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12:42 VanessaE good morning
12:42 est31 morning (FST)
12:55 RealBadAngel Morning  was here, some time ago :P
12:56 est31 https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#fst
12:58 VanessaE meh, it's morning everywhere right now.  because I said so ;)
12:58 VanessaE est31: heh
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15:58 rubenwardy #1869
15:58 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1869 -- Add scriptapi interface to HTTPFetchRequest by Jeija
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15:59 rubenwardy It's a very useful feature
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16:26 * est31 wonders whether we should release a 0.4.13 somewhere soon
16:27 est31 e.g. in one month.
16:27 est31 2 weeks to add features, 2 weeks feature freeze, then release
16:27 rubenwardy #1869
16:27 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1869 -- Add scriptapi interface to HTTPFetchRequest by Jeija
16:28 est31 what I could do until in 2 weeks is to make the settings patch ready and think of a mod api to rule them all
16:28 est31 and rubenwardy yes I know the xkcd
16:29 rubenwardy I thought you would XD
16:29 est31 but this is another setting
16:29 est31 here we are "upstream"
16:29 rubenwardy It doesn't quite apply as the standard you'd make would be builtin / cpp
16:29 est31 yea#
16:29 rubenwardy settings patch?
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16:29 rubenwardy is that the enum thing?
16:30 est31 #2695
16:30 est31 yes
16:30 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2695 -- Faster settings and defaultsettings by est31
16:30 est31 2 things to be improved:
16:30 est31 0. rebase
16:30 est31 1. no type conversion, every setting has an implicit type
16:31 est31 err explicit
16:31 est31 and when the explicit type is "string", there is a cache
16:31 est31 so that when you convert "3.14" into 3.14, it gets stored the first time, and after that the cache gets read
16:32 kilbith lot of good things in perspective
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16:32 kilbith just lacking of review :(
16:33 est31 its about 10x faster
16:33 someguy_irc Hello.
16:33 Krock I personally don't like the name "MTCONF_SET_SIMPLE"
16:33 est31 perhaps the conversion adds additional improvements
16:33 est31 Krock, what would you propose?
16:34 est31 and about the scriptapi patch, it definitely needs a rebase, and I wonder where to put it
16:34 Krock Just "CONFIG_SET"
16:34 est31 ok, can you add that as github comment?
16:34 est31 because in theory it can be accessed from within the sandbox
16:34 est31 but normal mods shouldn't be allowed to use it
16:35 est31 after all, you can write nice "wordpress probe" viruses with that API
16:36 est31 perhaps it can be realized with another whitelist from the settings
16:37 est31 and Krock  how would you name MTCONF_SET_EXT ?
16:38 Krock wouldn't it be possible to merge those two defined "functions"?
16:38 Krock one with 2, and the other with 3 arguments
16:41 est31 Krock, how would you realize it then?
16:43 Krock est31, would a "#define SETTING_SET(uppercase, default) SETTING_SET(uppercase, lowercase( #uppercase ), default)" in combination with "#define SETTING_SET(enumname, lcase, default)\[...]" be realizeable?
16:44 Krock I haven't looked a lot into the code but defining functions with a different count of arguments is possible
16:45 Krock However, I might be the only person who has this thoughts
16:45 Krock s/this/those/
16:49 est31 perhaps its harder to understand then
16:49 est31 overloading is generally bad
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17:11 est31 so what do people think about that release plan?
17:11 est31 release 0.4.13 in one month, feature freeze for two weeks, if there are unresolved issues after 2 weeks, we fork off a stable branch.
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17:12 est31 kahrl, RealBadAngel, sfan5, ShadowNinja, ^
17:12 est31 and celeron55
17:14 celeron55 the decision was made that stable branches will not be made because they cause issues; instead development branches are made and master never goes unstable between the beginning of a feature freeze and a release
17:14 est31 ok
17:15 est31 my main point is that there is some branch where work is still happening
17:15 est31 because "currently we are inside a feature freeze and have to stall merging your PR for an undeterminate amount of time"
17:15 est31 sounds bad
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18:35 Taoki Hmm... not much action on GIT during the last days.
18:37 est31 nore hmmmm: http://irc.minetest.ru/minet​est-dev/2015-06-11#i_4284464
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21:58 est31 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/c849d32a1063be8d4e7e766341422d3f8d9d7a37
21:58 est31 more proper position
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23:16 paramat hi RBA minimal is missing snow biome nodes and snow biomes are now enabled by default, so terrain disappears, will fix. the failure to resolve river water is not the cause and is harmless
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