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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2014-02-09

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07:00 hmmmm i hate microsoft
07:00 hmmmm this is complete bullshit
07:12 VanessaE ?
07:13 VanessaE well everyone hates them, but why now?
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07:15 hmmmm http://paste.dy.fi/c2u  i got it :p
07:15 hmmmm so then now I can do this:
07:16 hmmmm #ifdef _WIN32 #define strlcpy(d, s, n) strcpy_s(d, n, s) #endif
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15:56 tomreyn hey there
15:57 tomreyn looks like you're not using coverity's free (for open source) static analysis, yet: https://scan.coverity.com/projects?search=minetest
15:58 tomreyn i'm not affiliated with them, but it's kind of useful.
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17:47 hmmmm guys
17:48 hmmmm when you are *making* a lua api that takes some sort of flags field, don't go and do your own thing, use getflagsfield() instead
17:48 hmmmm this accepts both the string flag format, "flag1, flag2, noflag3" or a table boolean format {flag1=true, flag2=true, flag3=false}
17:51 sapier can you add a doc in lua_api too? (if not already there)
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18:00 sapier https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1143 ... new aproach for clean client init. Investigation has shown the initial attempt to use existing messages to detect client beeing ready doesn't work reliable. Therefore it's useless to "abuse" a existing message as "ready". I added a new one which is now really sent only on client ready (after media, texture loading and preloading item images).
18:01 sapier old clients will (hopefully) work as good as before. but could suffer about some bugs hidden by broken texture dowload before.
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18:11 MrElmux latest git suffers from (probably) missing strlcopy in c_content.cpp
18:11 hmmmm is that on windows?
18:12 hmmmm MrElmux, try this https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit​/3b7c5ca963a398a22dd2daa3406859040e7a8c5d
18:12 MrElmux no Arch Linux
18:13 hmmmm hmm
18:13 MrElmux missing headers ?
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18:15 MrElmux it seems that strlcopy isnt a standard c function
18:15 hmmmm oh wow
18:15 hmmmm i'm sorry
18:15 hmmmm i thought it was posix standard for some reason
18:15 hmmmm you're right, linux doesn't have it
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18:26 hmmmm well
18:26 hmmmm fuck drepper
18:26 hmmmm i wonder how much C he writes outside of glibc
18:26 hmmmm probably zero
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18:27 hmmmm such a pompous, arrogant attitude, and thanks to him everybody who wants to use strlcpy and strlcat have to reimplement them
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19:03 MrElmux thx works again
19:08 sapier https://gist.github.com/sapier/8904455 Does anyone (except me) understand what I have written in there?
19:09 hmmmm i get it
19:09 hmmmm wow that's actually a very nice diagram
19:09 hmmmm haha
19:10 sapier it's the new handling only ... old one was quite chaotic
19:12 sapier well it did work ... but did create "states" from multiple bool variables set or not set
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19:39 emptty1 sapier: you may want to look at http://plantuml.sourceforge.net/
19:41 specing java. NOPE
19:43 sfan5 eeeww.. java
19:44 sfan5 sapier: you may want to respond to https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/pull/1143#issuecomment-34580868
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19:50 sapier thanks emptty ... I've been looking for something like that before :-)
19:51 sapier well celeron55 didn't say anything about client and there's already something linke a client version so it's not a real difference
19:55 sapier and as I said the lua access is optional.
19:56 sfan5 can you add suggestion 1 then
19:56 sfan5 ?
19:56 sapier what's system information good for?
19:56 sfan5 nothing
19:57 sfan5 just informal
19:57 sfan5 could be used for statistics
19:57 sapier what exactly do you mean with "systeminformation"?
19:58 sfan5 >Return system information
19:58 sfan5 >e.g. "Linux/3.12.7 x86_64"
19:58 sapier and where to get that information?
19:58 sfan5 do you even click the link
19:58 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/blob/master/src/porting.h#L170-174
19:59 sapier what's this gonna result on windows?
19:59 sapier w
19:59 sapier nothing
20:00 sapier wrong file
20:00 sfan5 Windows/6.1-Service_Pack_1 x86 for example
20:03 sapier I guess it won't be a big issue ... except I don't like to send more information about client then necessary ... especially as this is not minetest data
20:03 sapier lets hear what others do think about this first
20:03 sfan5 it is sent with the http user agent too
20:03 sfan5 the server would get it anyway
20:04 sfan5 (when the client uses http to fetch things [assuming remote_media and the mt server are on the same machine])
20:04 sfan5 but it is available to lua this way too
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20:24 sapier http is a feature you don't have to use
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21:26 hmmmm ahhhh
21:26 hmmmm m_emerger was the work of kahrl
21:27 hmmmm pretty sure I can eliminate the entire IBackgroundBlockEmerger interface now
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21:37 hmmmm https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/89f7dc1efd6b0062b4b9e5c3509c301ccadb7a13
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