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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2014-02-10

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00:03 sapier https://gist.github.com/sapier/8907170 this is how old/new clients behave with my latest fixes
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01:17 Exio4 [15:15:51] <+hmmmm> you're right, linux doesn't have it < you can use "libbsd"
01:17 Exio4 :P
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17:18 VanessaE UGH!  will someone PLEASE add some kind of color-coding to the chat window?  or at LEAST make /msg's stand out better?  they get lost in a busy chat WAY too easily
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17:32 Calinou +1 for colors
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20:37 emptty1 sapier: I can test whatever you want, tonight
20:37 emptty1 I'm done redacting that <biiiip>
20:37 emptty1 s/redacting/writing/ sorry for my broken english
20:45 sapier ok first thing we need to find out your exact environment,
20:46 emptty1 debian testing
20:46 sapier cpu, gcc, glibc, irrlicht version, debug / release build, luajit version
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20:47 sapier do we have a issue for this one already? we should create a issue for this and add this information so you don't have to add it twice
20:48 emptty1 We have http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-b​in/bugreport.cgi?bug=733974 but that's all for now
20:48 emptty1 (I guess)
20:48 sapier well we can link to this one too
20:52 emptty1 gcc 4:4.8.2-2  ;  libc6 2.17-97   ;   libirrlicht1.8 1.8.1+dfsg1-1    ;    libluajit-5.1-2   2.0.2+dfsg-1
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20:54 emptty1 cmake flags:  -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DFREETYPE_INCLUDE_DIRS=/usr/include/freetype2 -DFREETYPE_INCLUDE_DIR_ft2build=/usr/include -DCUSTOM_LOCALEDIR=/usr/share/locale -DCUSTOM_SHAREDIR=/usr/share/games/minetest -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr .
20:54 emptty1 sapier: did you got the package versions?
20:54 sapier back ... sorry tested if it's a connection issue
20:54 sapier I'm gonna look in log
20:55 emptty1 applied patches: http://sources.debian.net/src/minet​est/0.4.9%2Brepack-4/debian/patches
20:57 emptty1 sapier: what info you need about my CPU? That's an amd64, but I can provide more advanced info on need
20:57 sapier how fast?
20:58 emptty1 quite a lot
20:58 emptty1 that's a brand new machine
20:58 emptty1 cat /proc/cpuinfo reports 5986.60 bogomips, if it helps you (I don't understand it myself)
20:59 sapier intel core i7?
21:00 emptty1 Indeed. Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3540M CPU @ 3.00GHz
21:01 emptty1 (according to /proc/cpuinfo again)
21:01 emptty1 4 cores
21:01 emptty1 16Gb of RAM, SSD disk
21:01 emptty1 quite a neat machine :)
21:02 sapier wow :-) ok as we assume this to be a race condition I don't expect to be able to reproduce it on my phenom II x4 :-)
21:04 emptty1 well, tell me what I can do to help you :)
21:06 sapier you could try to create a few more gdb backtraces, case we're lucky this effect will show in different ways
21:06 sapier and console output for those situations
21:06 sapier but don't try to long if you don't feel anything different to happen
21:16 emptty1 well I didn't try yet. I got interrupted, sorry
21:17 sapier no problem same happens to me quite often
21:33 emptty1 sapier: 5 backtraces, and no difference
21:34 sapier :-( guess it won't change
21:34 emptty1 I get exactly the same bt as in the debian bug
21:34 sapier seems I have to find it in theory
21:35 emptty1 I'm fireing an older machine to see whether the CPU speed has any impact
21:35 emptty1 I also checked in ~/.minetest/debug.txt, but nothing there
21:36 sapier that'd be interesting
21:41 emptty1 Mmm, gime some time: one machine has not gdb installed, and the other lacks the minetest debug symbols
21:41 emptty1 That's installing right now, but the network is not very fast here
21:41 sapier do they crash too?
21:43 emptty1 yes for the middle range one, and no for the slow one
21:43 emptty1 but I don't see no public server either
21:44 sapier hmm interesting ok I guess my machine could be called slow in between
21:46 emptty1 Should I detail the hardware a bit?
21:46 sapier yes maybe I can find a machine with similar performance
21:48 emptty1 I just checked, the slow machine on which it works has exactly the same versions of irrlicht, luajit and libc6
21:48 sapier what's the slow machine?
21:50 emptty1 intel core2 2ghz
21:50 emptty1 3994.76 bogomips
21:50 sapier hmm that's quite slow
21:50 emptty1 I told you ;)
21:50 emptty1 but I cannot reproduce the bug here
21:50 sapier actually it's almost same performance as mine
21:50 sapier which somehow matches
21:51 sapier and the mid machine?
21:51 emptty1 I can on the middle-range one, which is a core i5 @ 2.53Ghz
21:51 emptty1 5054.21 bogomips
21:51 sapier my laptop is a core i5 too ... hmm maybe that's an option
21:52 emptty1 On the core i5, it seems to me that I have to wait one or two extra second before triggering the bug
21:52 emptty1 but that's very empiric
21:53 emptty1 is it expected that I don't so no public server? (even on the machine that does not bug)
21:54 emptty1 all three machines are laptops, btw. But I'm not sure that this is relevant
21:54 sapier no you should still see it
21:55 emptty1 well, I restart
21:55 emptty1 and my net connection is really overcrowded, as I'm currently uploading the debian package of widelands ;)
21:56 emptty1 Almost 300Mb to upload through a 512k upload link :)
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22:31 emptty1 sapier: I go to bed now
22:31 emptty1 we can discuss about it tomorrow night if you need more test
22:33 sapier ok good night
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