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hmmmm |
sapier sapier.. where are you.. |
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Topic for #minetest-dev is now Minetest core development and maintenance. Chit-chat goes to #minetest. Consider this instead of /msg celeron55. http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/ http://dev.minetest.net/ |
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| 10:28 |
rubenwardy |
2013_02_18 - 11:19 <celeron55> if you add it with registerMapgen("plus", new MapgenFooFactory()), it shouldn't be able to fail that way |
| 10:28 |
rubenwardy |
I have |
| 10:28 |
rubenwardy |
registerMapgen("plus", new MapgenPlusFactory()); |
| 10:28 |
rubenwardy |
I must return null |
| 10:36 |
rubenwardy |
lol, *it |
| 10:37 |
rubenwardy |
11:09:31: INFO[main]: EmergeManager: registered mapgen v6 |
| 10:37 |
rubenwardy |
11:09:31: INFO[main]: EmergeManager: registered mapgen plus |
| 10:37 |
rubenwardy |
apparently it registered |
| 10:39 |
rubenwardy |
I included mapgen_plus.h into mapgen.cpp, added registerMapgen("plus", new MapgenPlusFactory()); to the emerge manager. |
| 10:39 |
rubenwardy |
and made sure that MapgenPlusFactory exists |
| 10:39 |
rubenwardy |
and it says it is registered |
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rubenwardy |
gtg |
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hmmmm |
well, i'm stuck on the priority stuff. |
| 14:14 |
hmmmm |
there is a portable API for modifying thread priority, but there is no standard to it other than "the priority is an integer" |
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hmmmm |
need to find a decent way to do this |
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celeron55 |
hmmmm: if you're messing around with thread stuff, you could handle this while at it: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/52 |
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rark_ |
Hi, what is the username padded with in TOCLIENT_INIT? Spaces? Null bytes? |
| 15:34 |
celeron55 |
null indeed |
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rark_ |
OK, thanks! |
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thexyz |
anything against this https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/492 ? |
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| 17:10 |
thexyz |
darkrose, celeron55, hmmmm ^ |
| 17:19 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt find the systems libary for me... |
| 17:20 |
proller |
492? |
| 17:20 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: pastebin logs |
| 17:20 |
PilzAdam |
-- Using project json library |
| 17:21 |
PilzAdam |
but I have installed the -dev packets of json |
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PilzAdam |
*package |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: do >locate json.h |
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PilzAdam |
/usr/lib/syslinux/com32/include/gplinclude/zzjson/zzjson.h |
| 17:23 |
thexyz |
anything else? |
| 17:23 |
PilzAdam |
find also finds /usr/include/json/json.h |
| 17:23 |
PilzAdam |
/usr/include/jsoncpp/json/json.h |
| 17:23 |
PilzAdam |
but locate doesnt |
| 17:24 |
thexyz |
hm.. |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: the configuration should be modified |
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celeron55 |
serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net/ |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
it appends "list" to that and then uses it |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
it makes no sense at all |
| 17:27 |
celeron55 |
like, to the least, remove the ending / from it; but it's pretty arbitrary to require then /master.cgi?json=foo after it as the announce API |
| 17:28 |
celeron55 |
the setting should be something like serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net and then the master server api should end up using something like servers.minetest.net/list and servers.minetest.net/announce?json=foo |
| 17:29 |
celeron55 |
having file extensions in http apis like that is... horrible |
| 17:31 |
proller |
/ fixed and pulled |
| 17:33 |
proller |
announce? in progress |
| 17:59 |
rubenwardy |
is https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.net live yet? |
| 17:59 |
rubenwardy |
(celeron55) |
| 18:00 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, proller, the local favorite list doesnt work |
| 18:03 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: nope; website-wise i'm still just waiting if something useful might pop up... i'm not too confident in starting to construct anything special on c55.me (the current host of the minetest.net main site) |
| 18:04 |
celeron55 |
basically i'm in need of a VPS, but am too lazy to start sorting out where to get one, and not confident in handing the job to anyone else |
| 18:04 |
CombineTurret |
I might do some work on the home page |
| 18:05 |
CombineTurret |
I you still going to use Django or what ever |
| 18:06 |
celeron55 |
i can github the current php site if you want... but i'm not sure how to exactly continue; django basically rules out any cheap random hosting for the site in the future |
| 18:06 |
celeron55 |
but django would be a more solid foundation for a bigger site |
| 18:06 |
CombineTurret |
what ever you would like |
| 18:06 |
celeron55 |
currently i like being lazy and doing nothing 8) |
| 18:07 |
CombineTurret |
github the php then :D |
| 18:08 |
celeron55 |
will do |
| 18:10 |
rubenwardy |
thank you |
| 18:17 |
rubenwardy |
what is your opinion on the style of this side bar, celeron55? http://c55.me/ |
| 18:17 |
rubenwardy |
damn |
| 18:17 |
rubenwardy |
multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/ |
| 18:17 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/ |
| 18:21 |
celeron55 |
by the way, are you aware that the site shows like this for most people? http://ompldr.org/vaGl0eQ |
| 18:21 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 18:21 |
rubenwardy |
:S |
| 18:22 |
celeron55 |
here is... stuff now: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.net_php |
| 18:22 |
celeron55 |
i hope nothing secret went there... |
| 18:22 |
rubenwardy |
fixed |
| 18:23 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 18:24 |
celeron55 |
apparently there are some unused old files, unused new files and unused old images |
| 18:24 |
celeron55 |
well whatever 8) |
| 18:24 |
rubenwardy |
what is your opinion on the style of this side bar, celeron55? |
| 18:25 |
thexyz |
text-align: justify; looks like crap |
| 18:25 |
celeron55 |
i think it's a good start but needs work |
| 18:25 |
celeron55 |
the mientest.net layout doesn't really work for such a database site as-is |
| 18:25 |
celeron55 |
minetest* |
| 18:26 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, the side bar would not suit the main website |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
thexyz: changed to left |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
would you be against something like this on the homepage? http://wowslider.com/jquery-image-rotator-terse-blur-demo.html |
| 18:36 |
celeron55 |
yes i would |
| 18:37 |
celeron55 |
a video would be fine though, as long as it isn't in the middle of the page with no other content |
| 18:37 |
thexyz |
http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/ |
| 18:37 |
celeron55 |
yes, NOT like that |
| 18:37 |
thexyz |
sure, sure |
| 18:38 |
celeron55 |
we are an open source community, not an entertainment company |
| 18:38 |
rubenwardy |
is play.php in use? |
| 18:39 |
thexyz |
that's why our sites should look like crap ^^ |
| 18:39 |
celeron55 |
no; i drafted it a good while ago and it was left hanging around with no use |
| 18:40 |
celeron55 |
it exists on the site though: http://www.minetest.net/play.php |
| 18:41 |
celeron55 |
the layout is nice and simple - it would maybe be good if the extension site had such lists at the bottom of the front page with lists of like 20 of best rated or so |
| 18:41 |
celeron55 |
maybe |
| 18:41 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, good idea |
| 18:41 |
celeron55 |
what i strongly think is that the extension site should have a minimalistic look like the rest of the site - not like it currently is |
| 18:42 |
celeron55 |
but it will be a bit tricky; you need to really choose what to include on each page 8) |
| 18:43 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 18:43 |
celeron55 |
but less random blah blah and more data should do good - without forgetting properly showcasing of things though |
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PilzAdam |
is everyone ok with this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/450 |
| 19:02 |
celeron55 |
travis doesn't seem to be |
| 19:03 |
proller |
PilzAdam, favorites works on current master ? |
| 19:03 |
PilzAdam |
proller, I only was a bit confused because it doesnt convert the old format |
| 19:03 |
celeron55 |
PilzAdam: looks ok-ish to me |
| 19:04 |
proller |
PilzAdam, i dond find how to use old |
| 19:04 |
PilzAdam |
celeron55, travis failed because of this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/d6f0bf9eef30819d91f89f2181ac5278d238f1a9 |
| 19:11 |
PilzAdam |
what about not dropping tools when rightclicking? it irritates every lets-player I have seeon on youtube |
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F00 |
PilzAdam: That would not be much of an issue if (at least in 0.4.4 servers) dropped items didn't tend to magically disappear. |
| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
but why do we have to controls to drop items? |
| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
*two |
| 19:13 |
F00 |
I think removing that functionality is a good idea |
| 19:13 |
F00 |
It's counter-intuitive to be able to 'place' non-placeable items |
| 19:18 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/497 |
| 19:20 |
hmmmm |
JThread is useless as it is right now |
| 19:20 |
celeron55 |
i'm fine with not allowing to drop items by rightclick |
| 19:20 |
hmmmm |
and the "update" to the newer version is even more utterly useless |
| 19:20 |
hmmmm |
it does literally nothing except add more syntactic sugar |
| 19:20 |
celeron55 |
hmmmm: the update does practically exactly nothing, sure |
| 19:20 |
hmmmm |
no idea why anybody would even put the effort into that |
| 19:22 |
rubenwardy |
(7:11:21 PM) PilzAdam: what about not dropping tools when rightclicking? +1 |
| 19:22 |
rubenwardy |
Q still annoys me |
| 19:22 |
rubenwardy |
to close to W |
| 19:23 |
PilzAdam |
move it to P |
| 19:23 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 19:23 |
PilzAdam |
I also recommend: alt = toogle fly |
| 19:25 |
proller |
PilzAdam, json build fixed, now using only src/json |
| 19:32 |
rubenwardy |
how about something similar to this, celeron55: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/minetest_web_mock_up2.png |
| 19:32 |
proller |
PilzAdam, what delete from server information? |
| 19:32 |
proller |
i suggest make flags one char |
| 19:32 |
sfan5 |
rubenwardy: download button is too big IMO, video icon is too wide |
| 19:33 |
sfan5 |
proller: +1 |
| 19:33 |
rubenwardy |
it is just a mock |
| 19:33 |
rubenwardy |
not a real website |
| 19:33 |
PilzAdam |
New win32 build with curl, gettext and ttf support: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65717 |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
intro paragraph with a video |
| 19:35 |
rubenwardy |
And easy to read small feature highlight |
| 19:39 |
celeron55 |
a video can be added like that on top of the images, sure |
| 19:39 |
celeron55 |
but a large download link fits better at the right part of the big green-backgrounded heading, if such is wanted |
| 19:40 |
proller |
maybe first clients, version, flags and than name and desc ? |
| 19:40 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: wrong channel |
| 19:42 |
rubenwardy |
ah yes |
| 19:44 |
PilzAdam |
ooops |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
I put the download icon at the bottom as a "continue to downloading" thingy. It is not needed |
| 19:49 |
rubenwardy |
(celeron55) |
| 19:53 |
celeron55 |
http://ompldr.org/vaGl2ZA/mtext_mockup1.png |
| 19:54 |
rubenwardy |
that looks slightly ugly |
| 19:54 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm |
| 19:54 |
F00 |
Out of context, it's not immediately apparent what some mods do from their title alone. |
| 19:55 |
F00 |
So, a large list of links with no context provided isn't all that useful to a newcomer. |
| 19:56 |
F00 |
What if each category had its own tab, and within each tab, each item had a brief (one or two line) description? |
| 19:56 |
rubenwardy |
F00: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/search.php?id=mod |
| 19:56 |
celeron55 |
that is true |
| 19:57 |
F00 |
That's pretty good |
| 19:57 |
F00 |
Although the tags probably aren't necessary there |
| 19:57 |
celeron55 |
hmm, i'd maybe take some design inspiration from youtube's list mode: https://www.youtube.com/user/celeron55/videos?sort=dd&view=0&flow=list |
| 19:57 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=2 |
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* rubenwardy |
subscribed to c55 |
| 19:58 |
celeron55 |
we kind of need two levels in here; very tight textual lists, and lists with images (like that youtube) for showing "top 10" kind of stuff" |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
that does look good |
| 19:58 |
celeron55 |
-" |
| 19:59 |
celeron55 |
the front page could really be just a top 10 of everything in with-images mode, if we want to keep it simple |
| 19:59 |
celeron55 |
with more pages available |
| 20:00 |
celeron55 |
(yes, this completely conflicts with mtext_mockup1.png, except that i think the heading design that i came up with is good |
| 20:01 |
rubenwardy |
yes, I like that part |
| 20:01 |
rubenwardy |
It is a problem of minimalistic vs data flow |
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proller |
current local server list located in /usr/local/share/minetest/client/serverlist/favoriteservers.txt and not writable to not-root user |
| 20:40 |
proller |
and who want to manualy edit it? |
| 20:42 |
F00 |
Hm. I've noticed a lot of people claiming that underground saplings need light to grow (the wiki claims this too) |
| 20:42 |
F00 |
Was it ever actually the case? I grepped around and found nothing in the engine relating to a light requirement, and tested a few saplings in dark caves at -1k, and they grew fine |
| 20:47 |
celeron55 |
F00: it looks like no |
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* celeron55 |
glanced at 0.3 code |
| 20:48 |
proller |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/492 - all fixed. |
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proller |
and squashed |
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