Time Nick Message 04:35 hmmmm sapier sapier.. where are you.. 10:28 rubenwardy 2013_02_18 - 11:19 if you add it with registerMapgen("plus", new MapgenFooFactory()), it shouldn't be able to fail that way 10:28 rubenwardy I have 10:28 rubenwardy registerMapgen("plus", new MapgenPlusFactory()); 10:28 rubenwardy I must return null 10:36 rubenwardy lol, *it 10:37 rubenwardy 11:09:31: INFO[main]: EmergeManager: registered mapgen v6 10:37 rubenwardy 11:09:31: INFO[main]: EmergeManager: registered mapgen plus 10:37 rubenwardy apparently it registered 10:39 rubenwardy I included mapgen_plus.h into mapgen.cpp, added registerMapgen("plus", new MapgenPlusFactory()); to the emerge manager. 10:39 rubenwardy and made sure that MapgenPlusFactory exists 10:39 rubenwardy and it says it is registered 10:46 rubenwardy gtg 14:13 hmmmm well, i'm stuck on the priority stuff. 14:14 hmmmm there is a portable API for modifying thread priority, but there is no standard to it other than "the priority is an integer" 14:14 hmmmm need to find a decent way to do this 14:31 celeron55 hmmmm: if you're messing around with thread stuff, you could handle this while at it: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/52 15:15 rark_ Hi, what is the username padded with in TOCLIENT_INIT? Spaces? Null bytes? 15:34 celeron55 null indeed 15:42 rark_ OK, thanks! 17:09 thexyz anything against this https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/492 ? 17:10 thexyz darkrose, celeron55, hmmmm ^ 17:19 PilzAdam it doesnt find the systems libary for me... 17:20 proller 492? 17:20 thexyz PilzAdam: pastebin logs 17:20 PilzAdam -- Using project json library 17:21 PilzAdam but I have installed the -dev packets of json 17:21 PilzAdam *package 17:22 thexyz PilzAdam: do >locate json.h 17:22 PilzAdam /usr/lib/syslinux/com32/include/gplinclude/zzjson/zzjson.h 17:23 thexyz anything else? 17:23 PilzAdam find also finds /usr/include/json/json.h 17:23 PilzAdam /usr/include/jsoncpp/json/json.h 17:23 PilzAdam but locate doesnt 17:24 thexyz hm.. 17:25 celeron55 thexyz: the configuration should be modified 17:25 celeron55 serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net/ 17:25 celeron55 it appends "list" to that and then uses it 17:25 celeron55 it makes no sense at all 17:27 celeron55 like, to the least, remove the ending / from it; but it's pretty arbitrary to require then /master.cgi?json=foo after it as the announce API 17:28 celeron55 the setting should be something like serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net and then the master server api should end up using something like servers.minetest.net/list and servers.minetest.net/announce?json=foo 17:29 celeron55 having file extensions in http apis like that is... horrible 17:31 proller / fixed and pulled 17:33 proller announce? in progress 17:59 rubenwardy is https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.net live yet? 17:59 rubenwardy (celeron55) 18:00 PilzAdam thexyz, proller, the local favorite list doesnt work 18:03 celeron55 rubenwardy: nope; website-wise i'm still just waiting if something useful might pop up... i'm not too confident in starting to construct anything special on c55.me (the current host of the minetest.net main site) 18:04 celeron55 basically i'm in need of a VPS, but am too lazy to start sorting out where to get one, and not confident in handing the job to anyone else 18:04 CombineTurret I might do some work on the home page 18:05 CombineTurret I you still going to use Django or what ever 18:06 celeron55 i can github the current php site if you want... but i'm not sure how to exactly continue; django basically rules out any cheap random hosting for the site in the future 18:06 celeron55 but django would be a more solid foundation for a bigger site 18:06 CombineTurret what ever you would like 18:06 celeron55 currently i like being lazy and doing nothing 8) 18:07 CombineTurret github the php then :D 18:08 celeron55 will do 18:10 rubenwardy thank you 18:17 rubenwardy what is your opinion on the style of this side bar, celeron55? http://c55.me/ 18:17 rubenwardy damn 18:17 rubenwardy multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/ 18:17 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/ 18:21 celeron55 by the way, are you aware that the site shows like this for most people? http://ompldr.org/vaGl0eQ 18:21 rubenwardy no 18:21 rubenwardy :S 18:22 celeron55 here is... stuff now: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.net_php 18:22 celeron55 i hope nothing secret went there... 18:22 rubenwardy fixed 18:23 rubenwardy lol 18:24 celeron55 apparently there are some unused old files, unused new files and unused old images 18:24 celeron55 well whatever 8) 18:24 rubenwardy what is your opinion on the style of this side bar, celeron55? 18:25 thexyz text-align: justify; looks like crap 18:25 celeron55 i think it's a good start but needs work 18:25 celeron55 the mientest.net layout doesn't really work for such a database site as-is 18:25 celeron55 minetest* 18:26 rubenwardy yeah, the side bar would not suit the main website 18:27 rubenwardy thexyz: changed to left 18:35 rubenwardy would you be against something like this on the homepage? http://wowslider.com/jquery-image-rotator-terse-blur-demo.html 18:36 celeron55 yes i would 18:37 celeron55 a video would be fine though, as long as it isn't in the middle of the page with no other content 18:37 thexyz http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/ 18:37 celeron55 yes, NOT like that 18:37 thexyz sure, sure 18:38 celeron55 we are an open source community, not an entertainment company 18:38 rubenwardy is play.php in use? 18:39 thexyz that's why our sites should look like crap ^^ 18:39 celeron55 no; i drafted it a good while ago and it was left hanging around with no use 18:40 celeron55 it exists on the site though: http://www.minetest.net/play.php 18:41 celeron55 the layout is nice and simple - it would maybe be good if the extension site had such lists at the bottom of the front page with lists of like 20 of best rated or so 18:41 celeron55 maybe 18:41 rubenwardy yeah, good idea 18:41 celeron55 what i strongly think is that the extension site should have a minimalistic look like the rest of the site - not like it currently is 18:42 celeron55 but it will be a bit tricky; you need to really choose what to include on each page 8) 18:43 rubenwardy yeah 18:43 celeron55 but less random blah blah and more data should do good - without forgetting properly showcasing of things though 19:01 PilzAdam is everyone ok with this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/450 19:02 celeron55 travis doesn't seem to be 19:03 proller PilzAdam, favorites works on current master ? 19:03 PilzAdam proller, I only was a bit confused because it doesnt convert the old format 19:03 celeron55 PilzAdam: looks ok-ish to me 19:04 proller PilzAdam, i dond find how to use old 19:04 PilzAdam celeron55, travis failed because of this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/d6f0bf9eef30819d91f89f2181ac5278d238f1a9 19:11 PilzAdam what about not dropping tools when rightclicking? it irritates every lets-player I have seeon on youtube 19:12 F00 PilzAdam: That would not be much of an issue if (at least in 0.4.4 servers) dropped items didn't tend to magically disappear. 19:13 PilzAdam but why do we have to controls to drop items? 19:13 PilzAdam *two 19:13 F00 I think removing that functionality is a good idea 19:13 F00 It's counter-intuitive to be able to 'place' non-placeable items 19:18 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/497 19:20 hmmmm JThread is useless as it is right now 19:20 celeron55 i'm fine with not allowing to drop items by rightclick 19:20 hmmmm and the "update" to the newer version is even more utterly useless 19:20 hmmmm it does literally nothing except add more syntactic sugar 19:20 celeron55 hmmmm: the update does practically exactly nothing, sure 19:20 hmmmm no idea why anybody would even put the effort into that 19:22 rubenwardy (7:11:21 PM) PilzAdam: what about not dropping tools when rightclicking? +1 19:22 rubenwardy Q still annoys me 19:22 rubenwardy to close to W 19:23 PilzAdam move it to P 19:23 rubenwardy yeah 19:23 PilzAdam I also recommend: alt = toogle fly 19:25 proller PilzAdam, json build fixed, now using only src/json 19:32 rubenwardy how about something similar to this, celeron55: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/minetest_web_mock_up2.png 19:32 proller PilzAdam, what delete from server information? 19:32 proller i suggest make flags one char 19:32 sfan5 rubenwardy: download button is too big IMO, video icon is too wide 19:33 sfan5 proller: +1 19:33 rubenwardy it is just a mock 19:33 rubenwardy not a real website 19:33 PilzAdam New win32 build with curl, gettext and ttf support: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65717 19:34 rubenwardy intro paragraph with a video 19:35 rubenwardy And easy to read small feature highlight 19:39 celeron55 a video can be added like that on top of the images, sure 19:39 celeron55 but a large download link fits better at the right part of the big green-backgrounded heading, if such is wanted 19:40 proller maybe first clients, version, flags and than name and desc ? 19:40 thexyz PilzAdam: wrong channel 19:42 rubenwardy ah yes 19:44 PilzAdam ooops 19:46 rubenwardy I put the download icon at the bottom as a "continue to downloading" thingy. It is not needed 19:49 rubenwardy (celeron55) 19:53 celeron55 http://ompldr.org/vaGl2ZA/mtext_mockup1.png 19:54 rubenwardy that looks slightly ugly 19:54 rubenwardy hmmm 19:54 F00 Out of context, it's not immediately apparent what some mods do from their title alone. 19:55 F00 So, a large list of links with no context provided isn't all that useful to a newcomer. 19:56 F00 What if each category had its own tab, and within each tab, each item had a brief (one or two line) description? 19:56 rubenwardy F00: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/search.php?id=mod 19:56 celeron55 that is true 19:57 F00 That's pretty good 19:57 F00 Although the tags probably aren't necessary there 19:57 celeron55 hmm, i'd maybe take some design inspiration from youtube's list mode: https://www.youtube.com/user/celeron55/videos?sort=dd&view=0&flow=list 19:57 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=2 19:58 * rubenwardy subscribed to c55 19:58 celeron55 we kind of need two levels in here; very tight textual lists, and lists with images (like that youtube) for showing "top 10" kind of stuff" 19:58 rubenwardy that does look good 19:58 celeron55 -" 19:59 celeron55 the front page could really be just a top 10 of everything in with-images mode, if we want to keep it simple 19:59 celeron55 with more pages available 20:00 celeron55 (yes, this completely conflicts with mtext_mockup1.png, except that i think the heading design that i came up with is good 20:01 rubenwardy yes, I like that part 20:01 rubenwardy It is a problem of minimalistic vs data flow 20:40 proller current local server list located in /usr/local/share/minetest/client/serverlist/favoriteservers.txt and not writable to not-root user 20:40 proller and who want to manualy edit it? 20:42 F00 Hm. I've noticed a lot of people claiming that underground saplings need light to grow (the wiki claims this too) 20:42 F00 Was it ever actually the case? I grepped around and found nothing in the engine relating to a light requirement, and tested a few saplings in dark caves at -1k, and they grew fine 20:47 celeron55 F00: it looks like no 20:47 * celeron55 glanced at 0.3 code 20:48 proller https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/492 - all fixed. 21:30 proller and squashed