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Derp4u |
Hi everybody |
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Derp4u |
I'm looking to build a huge statute. I found some minecraft schematics but don't know how to turn them into something I can read. |
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Derp4u |
Also I'm not married to the plans, any ideas? I'm just looking for something big with feet |
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MTDiscord |
<theidealist> I'm something big with feet |
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MTDiscord |
<theidealist> and I didn't know plans could get married |
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cheapie |
Maybe this t420 is what I should be timing the compilation on... GX-209JA is not a fast CPU, it's taking forever :P |
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Derp4u |
Luanti is an OK name I guess |
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Derp4u |
Better than Minetest (what were we testing?) |
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cheapie |
Testing mines :P |
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Mantar |
your patience to dig down 2,000+ nodes to get the good stuff |
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Mantar |
Mining in MTG is definitely more of a challenge than in Minecraft |
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mdhughes |
I finally got to -1000 in my newish world. I repeatedly fall to my death getting down there. May be able to set up nets, tho. I like that it's *hard*, not dig for 5 minutes and you win the game. |
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mdhughes |
And you can always mod that. |
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Yuvi |
hey guys |
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Yuvi |
irc is pretty uhh |
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ireallyhateirc |
great, right? :D |
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bdju |
is this channel gonna change names too |
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specing |
channels can't be renamed |
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Oblomov |
we could have #luanti and ask for a redirect though |
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SwissalpS |
#luanti is already in use, only needs redirect ;) |
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SwissalpS |
(and bots reconfigured) |
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specing |
just ban forward everyone here |
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specing |
just ban forward everyone here to there* |
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celeron55 |
i wish i had room in my irssi window number shortcuts for more channels |
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celeron55 |
the hardest part of the transition period of this rename |
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celeron55 |
a ban forward fill fix it, that's true |
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Ingar |
dump irssi for weechat |
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celeron55 |
i've tried that |
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celeron55 |
it's worse |
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celeron55 |
too many annoying features and no focus on things that i care about |
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SwissalpS |
+1 also irssi uses way less resources |
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celeron55 |
way less clutter, fits into a small window and you can focus on what you're doing. and all this by default, no need to spend a week configuring |
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celeron55 |
i'd do the ban forward right now but i'm completely drained out of my problem solving energy due to work. just thinking of it going wrong and having to figure out something in realtime makes me feel sick. maybe tomorrow |
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specing |
weechatis better |
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specing |
not sure what these resources are? Compared to Firefox, everything else barely registers for resource usage |
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SwissalpS |
lol, FireFox is an elephant, possibly even larger than gimp - I haven't checked recently. |
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SwissalpS |
I use irssi on a RasPi, there resources are scarce |
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SwissalpS |
Using ssh to access the Pi from whichever device I'm at, there is only small chance of me missing messages. |
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* SwissalpS |
apologizes for off-topic |
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specing |
ah, ARM potato, alright |
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Ingar |
my weechat is currently having a full 150K VIRT mem size! |
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Ingar |
and, if your raspi hasn't enough power to run it, you got ripped off (or you got a ery old one) |
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specing: irssi handles large (pissnet-size) quantities of spam better than weechat |
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specing |
but can it handle poopnet-size? |
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cheapie |
specing: Like as in https://poo.today/ or...? :P |
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specing |
cheapie: it's a joke because cleaning poop is probably harder than cleaning piss |
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specing |
but pissnet is a real network |
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cheapie |
That one is a real network too, apparently |
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cheapie |
And yes, I'm quite familiar with pissnet, I used to have all sorts of stuff linked to it :P |
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swift110-mobile |
hello all |
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swift110-mobile |
whats the lowest spec machine you folks use for luanti |
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cheapie |
I only have two boxes I play it at all regularly on - this laptop here is the lower of the two, usually only used if I need to hop on for a minute to help someone with something: |
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cheapie |
Client: HexChat 2.16.2 • OS: Debian trixie/sid • CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx (2.35GHz) • Memory: Physical: 28.6 GiB Total (21.7 GiB Free) Swap: 9.8 GiB Total (9.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 21.0 GB / 114.5 GB (93.6 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Picasso/Raven 2 [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h • Uptime |
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cheapie |
: 4w 6d 15h 11m 41s |
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swift110-mobile |
Not a bad machine at all |
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swift110-mobile: thinkpad x200 |
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Noisytoot |
Client: HexChat 2.16.2 • OS: Guix System ? • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU P8700 @ 2.53GHz (959MHz) • Memory: 7.3 GiB Total (4.1 GiB Free) • Storage: 926.4 GB / 976.8 GB (50.4 GB Free) • Uptime: 5w 6d 2h 36m 38s |
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Noisytoot |
(I am [ and that's the thinkpad x200, in case it isn't obvious) |
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Noisytoot |
also the numbers for storage are wrong, I don't know where hexchat's getting that from (I have a 500GB SSD so I can't possibly have >900GB used) |
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swift110-mobile |
Noisytoot: oh wow you are doing luanti on an x200 |
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swift110-mobile |
I have an x201 but it's so beaten up. I might end up getting another one as I really like the aspect ratio |
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swift110-mobile |
x220 would be amazing but im not doing 16:9 on such a small device |
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specing |
erle is doing it on *60 |
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specing |
<Noisytoot> also the numbers for storage are wrong, I don't know where hexchat's getting that from (I have a 500GB SSD so I can't possibly have >900GB used) |
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specing |
with btrfs/zfs you can have 900GB used on 500GB SSD :) |
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shaft |
Who came up with the new name? |
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shaft |
It's not terrible but not good either. |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> it was one of three finalists in a long list of name suggestions |
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ireallyhateirc |
if it was in charge I'd call it "voxellarium" but then people would be upset about that too :D |
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ireallyhateirc |
at least it's not called "BuildCraft" |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13510 |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> there were all the initial name suggestions |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13510#issuecomment-1553384798 so Freshreplicant was the one to suggest it |
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ireallyhateirc |
my main issue is that luanti sounds like an italian shoe/clothing brand but I believe it is still objectively better than Minetest |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> anyhow, there were lots of suggestions, a whole name selection process, and the fact that the name is not bad is a win, and it's time to move on. If you want a different name, fork the project 🙂 |
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shaft |
It sounds like lua anti. When I first saw the documentation change I read it that way too despite English not being my first language. I understand it has lua but that -anti is from Finnish creation is a bit hard to understand. How large is the population of Finland even? |
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Mantar |
it's growing on me. I really liked "MTBox" though :) |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> the point of using Finnish is the C55 is Finnish. |
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shaft |
I guess, I'll have to get used to it. Anyway why does player:get_player_control().sneak always return false for me? |
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shaft |
Oh, I got it. on_rightclick isn't fired when I sneak |
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shaft |
Is there a on_sneak_rightcick? |
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shaft |
nevermind. |
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cheapie |
22 minutes to compile on a GX-420GI, not too bad |
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Krock |
cheapie: with -j4 ? |
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cheapie |
-j6 |
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cheapie |
Runs alright too, so long as I don't do anything crazy like build something. |
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rodrigo-morales |
[Question] Is there a default keybinding that inserts the block being pointed to the current slot in the inventory? In Minecraft, it is possible to do this by pressing the middle button in the mouse. |
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Krock |
there's no such feature. middle mouse buttons aren't used at all |
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Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.md?plain=1#L8446-L8449 |
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Krock |
pointing to the Lua API because that would be something to do by mods and not the engine |
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Krock |
but I'm pretty sure someone already requested this |
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Krock |
#9781 here we go |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9781 -- Pick node by middle click |
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rodrigo-morales |
Krock: Thanks for the information. I'll take a look at that issue. |
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Krock |
in creative the hand item can generally dig nodes very quickly, thus a possible workaround is to dig the node first and then put it back (copy kept in the inventory) (assuming that you have access to the area) |
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Krock |
or use the F5 debug info to see the node name and then look that up in the inventory |
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rodrigo-morales |
Krock: Thanks! |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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cheapie: what's the point of -j6 when you only have 4 cores? |
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specing: I forgot that I was using btrfs with compression. That might explain it |
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specing |
Maybe cheapie is a physicist and has 2 additional dark cores to satisfy the 4+2 = 6 equation |
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Krock |
[: mainly to keep the CPU busy while file I/O |
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cheapie |
I haven't tested this specific chip, but yeah, in most cases it seems like one or two more than the number of available threads is fastest. |
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cheapie |
A little more with slow storage, a little less with fast storage |
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cheapie |
In this case it *is* an SSD, but a rather old low-end SATA one. |
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How many threads would I be able to compile on with 1GB of RAM? I'm going to try it on this netbook with an Intel Atom N450, 1GB of RAM, and an old HDD |
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Krock |
minetest? maybe 1. Chromium? maybe 0.01 threads. |
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specing |
ahahaha Krock !! |
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specing |
(so true) |
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swift110-mobile: it is apparently possible to mod an x230 with a 13-inch 16:10 display: https://www.xyte.ch/mods/x230/ |
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swift110-mobile |
oh wow |
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swift110-mobile |
this guy just made my dat |
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swift110-mobile |
day |
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cheapie: 100.53 minutes (1 hour, 40 minutes, and 31.8 seconds) to compile minetest 5.9 with -j2 on Intel Atom N450 |
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specing |
oomph |
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cheapie |
[: I didn't time it on the GX-209JA but I think it was close to that. |
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cheapie |
Come to think of it, I didn't try /running/ it on there either |
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swift110-mobile |
hey specing |
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specing |
hi swift110-mobile |
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