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09:09 MinetestBot [git] grorp -> minetest/minetest: Fix uninitialized shadow tint regression from #14610 (#15197) fbb0e82 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/fbb0e82679b35366ae72db42d357b5439d72f9d6 (2024-09-27T09:08:35Z)
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09:50 Blockhead256 new day, new spam in the same thread
09:50 Blockhead256 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=439459#p439459
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10:33 Juri lol what kind of spam is that? the link doesn't even work xD
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12:17 cheapie The new effects certainly do look nice: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20240927_070916.png https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20240927_071211.png
12:17 cheapie I think I'll keep them turned off, though... I like having frame rates with more than one digit.
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14:39 MTDiscord <warr1024> Multi-digit framerates are a bit of a trade-off.  Adding the second digit is nice, but it seems to take away performance from the first digit.  With a single digit, I've seen it go as high as 9, but with a second digit, the first one rarely goes above 6.
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15:52 cheapie ...I ended up just ordering a faster video card, supposedly about 7x as fast as my current one. Maybe then instead of 3 FPS I can get 21.
15:54 cheapie I've been running an RX 550 for years now - I had been eyeing the RX 6400, but then an RX 6600 XT showed up for not a whole lot more, so *shrug*
15:57 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> The 6000 series is a power house
15:58 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Runs a bit hot, but my tip for you is corectrl if you don't already know
15:58 sfan5 jokes on you, it's cold in winter
15:58 cheapie I figure 160W should be manageable compared to the ridiculous numbers that the higher-end ones draw.
15:58 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> I got my undervolted power sipper mode and my "wow, I'm starting to sweat with the AC on"
15:59 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Oh yeah man, if you undervolt the 6600xt you're gonna be seeing some super low power consumption
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16:00 cheapie I don't screw with voltage or clocks manually on this box, if I adjust something it'll be via something like a cTDP or power limit or whatever instead.
16:00 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Just don't set it too low, or else you'll have some weird issues in games, like forza horizon 5 lags in my power sipper mode
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16:00 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Yeah, in corectrl you can set the power limit and the fan speed, just like the regular windows driver, but you also can have multiple modes you literally toggle on
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16:02 cheapie The one feature I wish it had that it doesn't is AV1 encode... but with libsvtav1 being so fast now that's not even really a problem any more.
16:02 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> There was a way I knew how to enable it in arch with the amd encoder, but that's probably extremely outdated now
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16:04 cheapie Even on a 2700X cTDPed down to 65W, libsvtav1 still encodes 1080p at well over 100 FPS, so... I think I'll be fine :P
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16:05 cheapie Definitely much faster than back when I had to use rav1e.
16:12 MTDiscord <warr1024> What causes minetest to just silently shut down instantly on startup without any error message?
16:15 sfan5 that would be a bug, and I'm not aware of any
16:15 sfan5 using docker?
16:15 MTDiscord <warr1024> yeah
16:15 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/15183
16:16 MTDiscord <warr1024> any way I can know which dep?
16:17 sfan5 try running it without docker so the error message isn't swallowed :P
16:18 MTDiscord <warr1024> how would that even work?  I'd need to setup an entire VM or something.  It'd be impossible to recreate the contents of the image.
16:19 sfan5 you can extract built docker images actually
16:19 sfan5 but for a start you could try launching minetest manually in the docker image from a shell
16:20 MTDiscord <warr1024> Oh nice, I got gdb working finally
16:20 MTDiscord <warr1024> Thread 1 "minetestserver" hit Catchpoint 1 (signal SIGSEGV), 0x0000556b4dfc5e40 in NodeDefManager::cancelNodeResolveCallback(NodeResolver*) const [clone .isra.0] ()
16:20 MTDiscord <warr1024> ...I'm not certain that's useful though?
16:20 sfan5 if there's more to it?
16:20 sfan5 like the entire backtrace
16:20 MTDiscord <warr1024> recommend a pastebin for that?
16:21 sfan5 sure
16:22 MTDiscord <warr1024> https://pastebin.com/5Y7Wz4aZ
16:25 sfan5 i guess there's a bug somewhere
16:25 sfan5 I suppose when Minetest crashes on shutdown the error message might get swallowed, which would be the issue described there
16:28 MTDiscord <warr1024> Wait, when it says "dependencies" it means "mod dependencies"?  I thought it meant like C++ runtime lib dependencies.
16:31 sfan5 yea
16:36 sfan5 did this reveal what the actual bug was?
16:37 MTDiscord <warr1024> That's kinda weird, as I have more or less the whole ~/.minetest dir mounted in that image and the world I tried to load works fine outside, and doesn't throw any warnings
16:37 MTDiscord <warr1024> I mean it gave me stuff to look into I guess.
16:37 sfan5 s/bug/error message/
16:37 MTDiscord <warr1024> oh, no, still haven't seen a real error message.
16:37 sfan5 hm
16:39 MTDiscord <warr1024> oh boy, power going out here is not making this a very good time to be debugging stuff 😑
16:39 sfan5 hmm yes I can see what could cause this
16:39 sfan5 are you running 5.10.0-dev or 5.9.x=
16:39 sfan5 s/=$/?/
16:40 sfan5 try this in either case https://0x0.st/Xgzy.txt
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17:02 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> You getting hit by that tornado warr?
17:03 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> I hope you are okay
17:05 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Hurricane, tornado, there's two of them from what I can see
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19:35 MinetestBot [git] sfence -> minetest/minetest: Allow detection of damage greater than HP (#15160) 610ddab https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/610ddaba7ce23248ec898ac68c44ca62c0ad73b4 (2024-09-27T19:34:52Z)
19:37 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Minor improvements to metadata handling 700fbc8 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/700fbc803d7fb393863074beb9e6c86e6883f003 (2024-09-27T19:35:27Z)
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