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IRC log for #minetest, 2024-08-08

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09:39 Skippythekangoo MOrning, Can I load mods without restart server...???
09:48 sfan5 nope
09:57 MTDiscord <bastrabun> You can overwrite functions from within
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11:49 Blockhead256 forum reporting still broken, new spam thread in General Discussion
11:50 Blockhead256 I can give links, but then people will probably just click on them... hmm
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12:10 MTDiscord <luatic> Blockhead256: removed
12:10 MTDiscord Command sent from Discord by Lars:
12:10 MTDiscord !tell celeron55 can we get a better captcha?
12:10 MinetestBot MTDiscord: I'll pass that on when celeron55 is around
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13:03 celeron55 more like: can we get a better forum
13:03 MinetestBot celeron55: Aug-08 12:10 UTC <MTDiscord> can we get a better captcha?
13:04 celeron55 how is this so slow again
13:04 celeron55 well, all of the cpu is getting used by mysqld and php-fpm, so i guess it's at least trying
13:08 celeron55 if that solid blue block continues like that, i don't have many options ahead https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/Xk8aFKKN8Ng7.png?o=1
13:10 sfan5 maybe someone is crawling it again?
13:16 celeron55 @luatic which captcha would you like to have? https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/X8v8YIUBIDFV.png?o=1
13:17 celeron55 i suppose recaptcha v3 would be most potent. but i don't have much faith in any captchas these days
13:17 celeron55 however, must have something, otherwise it's going to be unmanageable
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13:29 MTDiscord <luatic> celeron55: i don't really have experience with these, but i suppose anything is better than the status quo. according to some quick searches reCaptcha v3 should be a good choice.
13:31 sfan5 https://www.hcaptcha.com/ would be an obvious alternative but it's not in the lsit
13:31 sfan5 list*
13:38 celeron55 well
13:39 celeron55 i enabled recaptcha v3 and now the registration page is broken because of a missing template
13:39 celeron55 i'll do some more messing about in production to see if i can fill in the blanks
13:41 celeron55 i guess it's working? recaptcha v3 is wild, it's just this complete google big brother thing watching your every action but not requesting you to do anything. but if it saves us effort in fighting spam, it's worth it
13:45 ireallyhateirc "mark all traffic lights to train our AI"
13:45 ireallyhateirc AFAIK google also has a patent for endless captcha loop as a way to shadowban
13:46 celeron55 for sure
13:47 celeron55 don't really need a patent to do that though, nobody can prove it
13:48 Skippythekangoo sfan5: Ok, Thx...
13:49 ireallyhateirc select all squares with motorcycles https://p.mort.coffee/JjA.png
13:52 celeron55 i would expect that puzzle view from recaptcha v2, not v3
13:53 ireallyhateirc yeah I guess, though the trashbag that looks like a motorcycle is funny
13:54 celeron55 v3 literally just looks at how your web browser looks like, how you move the mouse, how you type, and so on, to figure out whether you're a bot or not
13:55 celeron55 stuff like being logged into chrome essentially gives you a free pass, and so on
13:56 celeron55 it'
13:56 celeron55 it's basically pure evil, which google does well
13:56 ireallyhateirc clever but also evil
13:57 ireallyhateirc big minds think alike lol
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15:45 MTDiscord <mistere_123> RIP "don't be evil"
15:47 ireallyhateirc that motto went against their business model and core values :D
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17:43 SFENCE I do not see a release candidate for Mac Universal or Arm. Only Intel build. So, I cannot test it on a Mac with an arm-based processor.
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17:44 sfan5 we currently don't build one. just need to add a github action
17:46 SFENCE Ok. I build will became avaliable, let me know. I will test it on my MacBook.
17:46 sfan5 I was hoping someone could contribute a PR :)
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17:47 sfan5 but it's probably not hard, I'll look into it
17:50 sfan5 huh actually github docs say our runner should be M1 based?!
17:53 sfan5 SFENCE: the rc1 build in the post is actually arm64
17:53 sfan5 can you confirm?
17:54 SFENCE Really, I will try to tun it also from command line.
17:57 SFENCE Ok. file command confirm, it is 64-bit arm executable. But every try to open it end with "Minetest is damaged and can't be opened. ..."
17:58 SFENCE I will try to compile it. Is there some special cmake configuration for release candidate I should use?
18:00 sfan5 it's just the latest commit with a different version number
18:00 sfan5 however maybe the executable is just missing a signature?
18:01 sfan5 try: codesign --force --deep -s - macos/minetest.app
18:01 sfan5 (from here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/compiling/macos.md=
18:01 sfan5 s/=$/)/
18:04 SFENCE ok. I am not able to sign downloaded minetest.app
18:04 sfan5 hmm
18:04 SFENCE but when I compiled minetest from new clone and signed it, it works.
18:05 SFENCE Like I am able to start minetest and go into main menu.
18:05 SFENCE Like I am able to start minetest and go into main menu and go into a game.
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