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IRC log for #minetest, 2024-01-14

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00:01 Mantar sure, if he's running a public server rather than just an informal one for friends and family
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00:11 hephaestus so Will I need to programming the mods
00:12 hephaestus I didn't understand about custom
00:23 muurkha suppose you want to remove xdecor.  if you just remove it, you'll get unknown blocks and items in people's bases and inventories.  Then they might complain.  A thing you can do to mitigate that is to write a custom mod that provides definitions for those items, maybe just aliases to existing items
00:23 muurkha maybe you alias all the fancy chairs to the standard wood chair, say
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00:40 hephaestus so I need to code and when and if I removed the mod cleaner will delete all them
00:40 Mantar really no coding needed, just make a mod folder, give it a name in mod.conf, and add an init.lua that contains lines of 'minetest.register_alias("oldmod:fancy_chair", "default:wooden_chair")' to rename the removed mods items to equivalents
00:41 Mantar and you can do minetest.register_alias("oldmod:crappy_thing", "air") and that will just delete the crappy_thing object
00:43 Mantar the cleaner mod does some of that for you, but you still have to type up a list of the removed objects and what you want them replaced with
00:43 Mantar 'cause there's no way for it to know
00:50 hephaestus I think I understand now, well the difference is with the custom I have the most control then cleaner mod
00:50 hephaestus Is that?
00:51 Mantar yeah though they both will do the same thing in essence
00:52 hephaestus I understand, thank you
01:00 muurkha <Mantar> really no coding needed, just make a code folder, and add a file of code containing lines of code like 'minetest.register_alias("oldmod:fancy_chair", "default:wooden_chair")'
01:01 Mantar it's barely text editing
01:01 Mantar a five year old could do it
01:01 Mantar well maybe six
01:03 muurkha sure, I was writing code when I was five
01:03 muurkha it wasn't very good code, of course
01:05 Mantar same, my first program was
01:05 Mantar 10 print" Jeremy is a cool dude!! ";
01:05 Mantar 20 goto 10
01:06 Mantar which is more complicated than the alias program above, which is really just a verbosely formatted list of things to replace with other things
01:06 Mantar so yeah, I wouldn't really consider that "coding," more like filling out a form
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01:10 muurkha well, it has control flow, but the above is accessing an object property and invoking a user-defined function with arguments
01:10 Mantar the person typing doesn't need to know or understand any of that, just that "old node goes in here, new node goes in there"
01:10 muurkha but sure, you don't exactly have to be able to prove the undecidability of the Halting Problem
01:11 Mantar copy/paste, fill it out, done
01:12 muurkha yeah
01:12 hephaestus very good, I understand
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04:07 MTDiscord <__vaxeral> Squidward I think Mr Krabs is a robot.
04:08 MTDiscord <__vaxeral> No SpongeBob, they are all robots.
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12:19 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Make sure unittests don't try to write to cwd 45561b8 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/45561b89a4937ca406a7bcbe901e700918fd7e2c (2024-01-14T12:17:53Z)
12:19 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Remove broken MINETEST_SUBGAME_PATH test 863c9b5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/863c9b55b44ec1df570cdd2b9d6758a8c915ef65 (2024-01-14T12:17:53Z)
12:19 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Make unittests less reliant on files in the source distribution 133f706 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/133f706bf3e4c001b8f42179af3f070cc1940d1e (2024-01-14T12:17:53Z)
12:19 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Move setenv compat code to porting.h 6f494a9 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6f494a968d28d73a42ceaa03e6cc26d349f30f97 (2024-01-14T12:17:53Z)
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15:49 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Client: fix possible division by zero in [crack modifier ed7d403 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ed7d4037b25d6b8c840ec0eecb0f6cc254c86454 (2024-01-14T15:28:03Z)
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16:47 MinetestBot [git] cx384 -> minetest/minetest: Add function to get all HUD elements (#14042) 92c55c2 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/92c55c27cf520bd7b0e59639cc7cce7bcaf5d747 (2024-01-14T16:46:29Z)
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21:49 fluxionary i've got a weird issue. minetest 5.7.0/linux. as reported by a globalstep, dtime is (almost always) the same as the dedicated server step (0.047). however, (almost always) only one server step is being executed each second. anyone have any idea what that could be about?
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22:08 fluxionary oh wait no nevermind
22:13 sfan5 unrelated but it's better to use 5.8.0 these days :)
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22:48 fluxionary yup, that's planned
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