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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-10-11

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00:40 cheapie Signs the thing you built with mesecons might be slightly cursed, #529175: it has a row of 32 switches in it that must be set to approximately 0x5f3759df in order for the machine to work properly
00:40 ShadowBot cheapie: Error: That URL raised <HTTP Error 404: Not Found>
00:40 cheapie ....I have no idea where ShadowBot sees a URL in that.
00:53 MTDiscord <wsor4035> its looking for a minetest issue number because you used the # and numbers
00:53 MTDiscord <wsor4035> *issue/pr
00:54 MTDiscord <wsor4035> #111
00:54 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/111 -- Window close icon gives odd screen appearance on shutdown
00:54 MTDiscord <wsor4035> (for example)
01:00 jonadab That seems a little over-general.  Shouldn't it only look for that following certain keywords (like "bug" or "issue")?
01:01 jonadab cheapie: It takes five minutes after you turn your device off, before you can access your inventory.
01:05 jonadab Or, heh, your machine has the bonus side effect of preventing any players from logging onto the server while it's running.
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09:54 erle cheapie what EXACTLY did you build with mesecons?
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13:04 jonadab Giant meselectro-mechanical pinball machine?
13:05 erle what
13:06 jonadab Lifesize free-roaming animatronic Godzilla?
13:08 jonadab Hercemer Battle Jitney?
13:10 jonadab Mesecons-powered XML parser?
13:10 erle airborne aircraft carrying support frigate
13:10 erle (in germany, every big ship is a frigate)
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13:12 erle (this is also why germany has the biggest frigates worldwide hehe)
13:15 jonadab Oooh, a giant airship that fires self-propelled bullets from giant cannons.
13:15 jonadab With a giant player-eating venus flytrap on board.
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14:28 solitaryMuffin ls
14:28 solitaryMuffin Sorry, folks
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15:09 MinetestBot [git] Desour -> minetest/minetest: Particle cleanup (#13394) 12e9867 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/12e98678f64a798f1ad38a50b820e60f96eca321 (2023-10-11T15:07:30Z)
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16:30 cheapie erle: Nothing /that/ interesting, really, just a rather simple machine that approximates 1/sqrt(X) where X is a 32-bit IEEE 754 float.
16:31 cheapie https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20231010_131238.png
16:32 cheapie The two visible (and two not so visible) mesecons going nowhere are intentional and caused by the subtractor being the same thing copy/pasted 32 times.
16:34 Desour cheapie: are the high bits in front or far, and for input1 left or right?
16:34 cheapie In case it wasn't apparent from what I've said so far, it calculates what it does by using the (first half of the) "fast inverse square root" algorithm from Quake III Arena - that is, it interprets its input as an integer (even though it isn't) and outputs 0x5f3759df-(X>>1). Some other constants give slightly better results but I used the classic one.
16:35 cheapie Desour: Input (switches in front) has the LSB at the left, output (red lightstone) has the MSB at the near end.
16:35 Desour ok
16:36 cheapie It's not being used for anything right now, nor do I plan to do so - it was just an "I want to see this work in MT" sort of thing.
16:36 Desour makes sense if the thing does an additon, and gives the carry upwards
16:37 cheapie It's a cascade of 32 full subtractors (one could have been a half, but... meh)
16:37 cheapie The shift is of course just hardwired.
17:45 stormchaser3000 That sounds like quite the interesting project
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17:54 ROllerozxa when discord goes down, IRC is where people go...
17:57 erle cheapie slow inverse square root?
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17:59 * stormchaser3000 personally believes IRC is better than Discord
18:00 stormchaser3000 Then again, I am a dinosaur who likes to do his computing in the command-line (or so people keep telling me)
18:03 mrkubax10 lol same
18:03 Ingar IRC is an open protocol, Discord is prorietary. should tell you enough
18:04 Ingar at some point, Discord will die
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18:07 MTDiscord <warr1024> We'll never see Discord die.  It'll enshittify first, and by the time that leads to its death, there won't be anybody there to witness that death anymore.
18:08 stormchaser3000 Lol, yeah they seem to be doing a good job of destroying their own communication platform as-is
18:08 MTDiscord <greenxenith> What if, and I know this would never happen but hear me out, Discord starts losing investors so they open-source their protocol and client
18:08 MTDiscord <warr1024> Discord has so far seemed to be relatively resistant to enshittification, especially compared to other platforms that are speedrunning it right now ... but it's sort of inevitable in a long enough timescale, like heat death.
18:09 erle remember AIM? ICQ? MSN?
18:09 stormchaser3000 At that rate, they might as well just release the source code to the developer of spacebarchat
18:09 stormchaser3000 developers*
18:09 MTDiscord <warr1024> AIM, ICQ, et al died before enshittification was really a thing.
18:09 stormchaser3000 Does anyone remember Skype? ;)
18:09 mrkubax10 yes
18:10 json Hello!
18:10 stormchaser3000 Hello json
18:10 mrkubax10 I used to use Skype a lot
18:10 stormchaser3000 so did I XD
18:10 stormchaser3000 Skype used to be amazing... then Microsoft bought it...
18:10 mrkubax10 yes
18:10 json Ahh..
18:11 stormchaser3000 I remember installing a whole host of 32-bit libraries on my systems just so I could use the extremely outdated version of Skype for Linux...
18:11 erle nokia phones used to be amazing. then microsoft bought it.
18:11 erle remember when github showed your updates immediately?
18:11 mrkubax10 Microsoft only bought Lumia series
18:11 stormchaser3000 Nokia phones were amazing
18:12 stormchaser3000 Though, admittedly, I didn't have much of a chance to use them after some of the oldest models
18:12 stormchaser3000 older*
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18:12 stormchaser3000 I remember browsing craigslist on my mother's dumbphone before smartphones really took off...
18:12 mrkubax10 actually the Windows Phone devices were quite usable
18:13 mrkubax10 Nokia/Microsoft Lumia
18:13 stormchaser3000 I expect that they were. Even main-line windows was usable for quite a while
18:13 stormchaser3000 (pre-windows 8)
18:13 mrkubax10 I had 2 Lumia phones, only issue was lack of software
18:13 mrkubax10 that was quite a while ago
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