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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-08-29

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02:31 Swift110-mobile Sup folks
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07:19 yunfan87 help, i want to fix a hopper mod problem, but i found that when i use minetest.get_object_in_area API when hopper has item droped above it, the API returns nothing
07:20 yunfan87 so which api should i use when i want to detect items drops in some position?
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07:30 sfan5 that's the correct api
07:31 yunfan87 sfan5: but that API dont return any thing even after i throw some items in that position
07:32 yunfan87 also i only want to check in 1 node , so i gave the two parameters the same pos
07:38 yunfan87 and again, i found a interesting things,that after i throw items in that position, the registered abm function seems not be triggerd again , if i went there and take the item , the abm function triggerd again
07:39 yunfan87 looks like some method was stuck inside the function
07:43 yunfan87 that might be the real problem. after i throwed item in that position, the registered abm function wont trigger again
07:43 yunfan87 and when i take the item back, the abm function will be trigger again
07:48 sfan5 if you pass the same position twice it will only find something if there is an object at exactly that position down to the decimal places
07:49 sfan5 if you ask for {x=1.2, y=2.7, z=1.03456} it won't return an object at {x=1.2, y=2.7, z=1.03457}
07:50 sfan5 in different words: the precision is higher than nodes
07:50 yunfan87 ok but then i change the area to   (posunder, pos)
07:51 yunfan87 it also dont works, also now i found the problem is abm function wont be triggered as i decribed above
07:51 yunfan87 is it a bug?
07:51 sfan5 no, then it's still empty
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07:53 sfan5 you need something like get_objects_in_area(vector.add(pos, -0.5), vector.add(pos, 0.5))
07:55 yunfan87 sfan5: you dont understand, the problem now is that whole abm function wont be triggered after i throw items in the position
07:55 yunfan87 if i take back the item, it will be triggered again and again
07:56 yunfan87 the effect just like the hopper been disabed by redpower active
08:01 yunfan87 ah, i solve the problem , that's not a bug, the abm function wont triggered because i had put a pressure plate which will be active when i throw item in that position and cause the trigger paused
08:02 yunfan87 but after i remove the pressure plate and use vector.add staff, its still return nothing by using get_objects_in_area
08:23 erle yunfan87, how about yo make a nice small mod that is a test case and then you show it
08:23 erle ideally with comments in the code
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08:28 yunfan87 sfan5: interesting, another similar api could found the item, which is get_objects_inside_radius
08:28 yunfan87 but that effects is not what i want
08:28 yunfan87 erle: i will do that when i have time
08:31 yunfan87 i think i could use this get_objects_inside_radius and do a filtering
08:37 erle well if you provide the test case you could actually convince people
08:37 erle because right now i am not convinced you are holding the thing right
08:38 erle best case: people say how to modify the test case so it works
08:38 erle the engine is buggy sometimes, but mod coders produce a lot more bugs
08:45 yunfan87 also i found the coordinate has differents in y
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08:59 erle yunfan87 just make a small test case, upload it somewhere, e.g. https://mister-muffin.de/paste and then talk again
08:59 erle surely either people will see a bug or tell you how to do it right
09:10 yunfan87 erle: i just fixed that
09:10 yunfan87 erle: also the api document is not friendly to me,
09:51 yunfan87 also why there is not any event bus stuff in minetest's API?  erle staceee
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09:57 erle yunfan87 wdym event bus
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10:21 rubenwardy yunfan87: Minetest uses individual callbacks rather than a single event bus
10:22 rubenwardy minetest.register_on_thing is basically an event bus
10:23 rubenwardy are you asking for a central event bus or a callback API with more sugar
10:24 rubenwardy (for the latter, instead of minetest.register_on_joinplayer(callback) you might have minetest.on_joinplayer.connect(callback) )
10:24 rubenwardy (where minetest.on_joinplayer is some eventbus object)
10:25 rubenwardy (this is mostly unnecessary)
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10:59 erle yunfan87 i am not a staceee, nor am i a ched hehe
11:00 staceee I'm a random, stop pinging me please :D
11:01 erle staceee you think you have it back? in some other channel i am there is a person with the nick “she”
11:01 erle the highlights are hilarious
11:01 erle back → bad
11:01 erle damn i slur my words online
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14:14 erle anyone of you going to MRMCD?
14:20 Thelie I am actually, but I'm not really that active here ;)
14:24 erle i am considering it
14:24 erle but don't know where to sleep
14:24 erle hostel would be booooooring
14:24 erle unless other nerds there too
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14:32 Thelie I don't know how it's with MRMCD, but when I was at the youth hostel (aka Jugendherberge) for GPN, all people in my room were also there for GPN.
14:33 Thelie But honestly I just went there to sleep, so I didn't care too much apart from my bed…
14:36 erle i wonder if appguru goes
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16:47 jonadab erle: At one point I knew the guy who had the nick "teh" on Freenode (before the takeover).
16:47 jonadab Probably the single most frequenty typo in the English language.
16:47 jonadab Though he didn't use it as his main nick most of the time.
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20:28 erle okay so what if
20:28 erle strip mining mod
20:28 erle every time a player mines an ore block
20:28 erle their avatar loses an item of clothing hehe
20:30 erle are there games where the player character is a mob or so?
20:30 erle like reverse minetest
20:30 MTDiscord <luatic> we have too many ores and too few items of clothing for that
20:31 erle okay but what about the being a mob idea
20:31 erle like a game where you are a creeper and have to kill “players”
20:31 erle or a game where you are a duck doing duck things
20:31 MTDiscord <luatic> I think I saw that a while ago. Was it a mod by MirceaKitsune maybe?
20:31 erle what's the name
20:32 MTDiscord <luatic> https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_mods_creatures/ i think, but it's 8 years old at this point
20:33 erle thanks
20:33 erle luatic what is your opinion of mm3d
20:34 MTDiscord <luatic> I installed it, then closed it because I'm not modeling anything atm :P
20:34 ROllerozxa oh my gosh, literal strip mining mod...
20:34 ROllerozxa where do you even get these ideas
21:10 erle ROllerozxa it came to me in a dream
21:10 erle 3000 surreal minetest mods of erle
21:11 erle ROllerozxa i think cora once made a mod (or talked about it) for climate change
21:11 erle basically every fire or oven interaction would raise the CO₂ level, which determined the sea level
21:12 erle dynamic biomes when
21:12 erle ROllerozxa what if twerk mod (allows users to twerk instead of crouch)
21:15 erle what if troll mod that makes it possible that endermen crouch hehehehehe
21:17 erle what if flesh pit mod where the entire world is fleshy and cronenbergy
21:17 erle laughing obsidian
21:18 erle wasps mod (they look a lot like bees, but are really aggressive and territorial)
21:19 erle wrath of god mod: if you commit a sin against the server rules, you get lightning striked
21:21 erle longcow (like longcat, but for cows)
21:22 erle realistic weight (if you have 1 ton of gold in your inventory, you can not move)
21:22 erle one day i shall make an april's fools mod
21:23 erle ROllerozxa, at camp i told kids playing minecraft that one night of sleep in the nether is as refreshing as eight nights of sleep in the overworld :D
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