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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-05-26

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11:46 MinetestBot [git] Zughy -> minetest/minetest: Reset day/night ratio even when passing no arguments (#13524) b60d38b https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/b60d38b7f9629e9df5f8c6c840f0e985912c1531 (2023-05-26T11:45:42Z)
11:48 MinetestBot [git] Zughy -> minetest/minetest: Reset player lighting when passing no arguments (#13525) d6eb6ff https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d6eb6ff97311380ae0c7917882c89773657904fa (2023-05-26T11:47:16Z)
11:48 MinetestBot [git] rollerozxa -> minetest/minetest: Disable `desynchronize_mapblock_texture_animation` by default (#13514) f4cb16c https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f4cb16cc2d39d9dfe51858b966d8837cb2a18cc7 (2023-05-26T11:48:37Z)
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13:15 MinetestBot [git] Bituvo -> minetest/minetest: Convert spaces to tabs (#13506) 00c647e https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/00c647e4cc26d098e021981ba44018e14c6106aa (2023-05-26T13:13:57Z)
13:22 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Android build via CMake (#13528) 8cccd75 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/8cccd75e81c7150b5bb6cf43313eab9f5ac25f63 (2023-05-26T13:21:23Z)
13:30 MTDiscord <Thresher> lets goo
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14:02 MTDiscord <MisterE> What does this mean for building android? Any changes in the process?
14:07 ROllerozxa well, gradle will now download cmake before compiling, the app version and engine version numbers are decoupled... nothing different for just compiling it though
14:08 rubenwardy yeah, process should be the same but the code itself is simpler
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22:55 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Gradle is life
22:55 muurkha I've never tried it myself
22:56 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> It may be slow on initial startup, but it's obscenely powerful
22:56 muurkha is there a build system called "Cradle" it was named after?
22:56 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> muurkha, definitely use the kotlin script version instead of groovy, startup times are halved/quartered
22:59 muurkha so like it takes 7 milliseconds to start up instead of 15 ms or something?
22:59 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> like 400-600 vs 3-5
22:59 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> 400-600ms vs 3-5 seconds
23:00 muurkha that sounds appalling! why would you use a build system that takes 400 milliseconds or more to start up?
23:01 muurkha I guess because it's obscenely powerful?
23:01 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Crafter-Java/actions/runs/4974938310 yes, it's absolutely ridiculous
23:01 muurkha I think of GNU make as being obscenely powerful but when I tried it just now it takes 11-14 milliseconds to decide that there's nothing to build in a project I have here
23:02 muurkha to be fair, it's a much smaller project than Crafter-Java!
23:03 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Ohhhhh, right you've never used it before. So that 400-600ms is to start the background service, subsequential builds usually take around 50-150ish tops because it's reanalyzing your entire project and anything attached to it
23:03 muurkha I can't tell what you're trying to show me on that page.  possibly the logs I can't see?
23:04 muurkha I'm kind of depressed about build systems; Make was pretty amazing when I got thrown into the deep end with it in 01996
23:05 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Okay so the "Crafter" file is the live build of the game, the Jar. Just like minetest has the live build on gitlab. Test report is detailed information. Then the two build scans are part of the gradle enterprise plugin that shows you detailed graphs/information about what happened during every step of the progress
23:05 muurkha yeah, I don't see anything about a "Crafter" file, a test report, or two build scans on that page
23:06 muurkha oh, actually I do see the words "Crafter" and "Test Report" at the bottom
23:06 muurkha but they're not links
23:07 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Are you signed into github?
23:07 muurkha no
23:08 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Well if anyone else gets curious and clicks my garbage and has the same problem (that is signed in) please for the love of poop tell me
23:09 muurkha heh
23:09 muurkha presumably if it requires you to sign in to see them, that's because they're restricted to only certain users, right?
23:10 muurkha like members of a project team or something
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23:10 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> I'll have to do a triple check, I'm wondering if that's so bots don't start clicking links a million times and ddosing github through downloads
23:10 muurkha oh, could be
23:10 muurkha I hadn't thought of that
23:12 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Oh yeah it is just for bots, thank god. I was feeling like
23:13 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-gif-21041319
23:13 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> I don't know if gifs go over the bridge through a link though
23:38 muurkha heh

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