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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-01-21

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02:39 FavoritoHJS random idea for someone making a mtg mod: change ore distribution to have copper and tin appear near the surface, then make iron tools hard to get, such as by requiring complex crafting or a hard-to-get catalyst (as-in an item that isn't consumed, or is consumed so slowly it won't be a major bottleneck once obtained), which would have the side
02:39 FavoritoHJS effect of making bronze actually useful
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03:22 muurkha if you wanted to make it more realistic, you could make iron ore super common and tin ore only occur in narrow geographic areas, but make iron ore extremely hard to actually refine into iron (or steel)
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08:44 MinetestBot [git] maxchen32 -> minetest/minetest: Fix a README mistake on option SPATIAL_LIBRARY (#13162) 47c8b5d https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/47c8b5d57a9cb97f52f45bf6633827b73db496ac (2023-01-21T08:42:55Z)
08:44 MinetestBot [git] veprogames -> minetest/minetest: Use default values from cpp_api/s_env.cpp for register_abm in lua_api… cf5add1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/cf5add14728f6f00eec0cc8221050ba91e6a9646 (2023-01-21T08:43:20Z)
08:44 MinetestBot [git] SakuraRiu -> minetest/minetest_game: Update Japanese translation (#3007) 26b2da2 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/26b2da2c08497260e4b23794838d395c543f2aba (2023-01-21T08:43:53Z)
08:46 MinetestBot [git] mio-19 -> minetest/minetest_game: Update Chinese translation (#3008) 97130f4 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/97130f4c1ce9e512da14c823359af80ae8014622 (2023-01-21T08:44:35Z)
08:46 MinetestBot [git] AntumDeluge -> minetest/minetest_game: creative: Override hand after mods loaded... (#2984) fdcf458 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/fdcf458b565d2c5163d1d6d3cd022c03021e49ab (2023-01-21T08:44:47Z)
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12:44 kabou IMHO the "Chat command definition" in lua_api.txt is less than satisfactory in the sense of completeness and clarity
12:44 kabou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/d82d18bfb1a51e0f2f0a89999474e98890addf7e/doc/lua_api.txt#L9298
12:46 kabou I think it could be improved if it begins with a clear definition of terms and arguments, and give an outline example after that.
12:47 kabou Right now, it is a bit of both, a combination of definition and example.
12:48 kabou I had to check the builtin lua source code to verify what is what
12:50 kabou When you need to read the source code in order to understand what the documentation means, that's a bit upside down and maybe the documentation isn't all it could be.
13:05 sfan5 yeah we could use a documentation makeover where examples are clearly separated from definitions
13:05 sfan5 and also linked / collected together nicely
13:06 kabou I could at least do a patch for this one
13:07 sfan5 feel free
13:07 kabou but one thing is still unclear to me, what is the status of the "params" parameter https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/d82d18bfb1a51e0f2f0a89999474e98890addf7e/doc/lua_api.txt#L9316
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13:09 kabou is that a compulsory format (ie. it gets parsed by the server) or is it advisory (ie. it proposes a standard for mod authors to adhere to)
13:09 kabou it is my impression that it is the latter
13:09 calcul0n params in the def is just a help string printed when you type /help command
13:09 calcul0n param in the callback is a string containing whatever the user typed after /command
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13:09 kabou ok thanks, so I don't need to further dig through the cpp source code
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13:56 lissobone I have sinned.
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16:29 lissobone My friend saw a kid in a bus playing "МОДЫ майнкрафт" (minecraft MODS was displayed in the main menu instead of the regular "minecraft" title).
16:29 lissobone He showed him minetest.
16:29 lissobone The kid started speaking Georgian.
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19:21 muurkha Warr1024: you're flapping, 80% of my screen is you
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19:41 FavoritoHJS ahh yes, buggy irc clients
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19:48 muurkha it's possible Warr1024's IRC client is buggy but it's more likely that their connection is a marginal Wi-Fi network
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