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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-01-08

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00:31 MinetestBot [git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Report collisionMoveSimple for client and server. (#13105) 55804c5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/55804c56e9485659c912bf965761187b9ec0597f (2023-01-08T00:31:31Z)
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04:56 lissobone Greetings.
04:56 lissobone One thing left is to implement random loot.
04:57 lissobone Using the API, I can "build" a minigame.
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06:40 lissobone ABM saved my day.
06:41 lissobone And also some math.
06:41 lissobone A tiny quantity of math.
06:42 lissobone I made it so loot only spawns when the game is running and only within the circle.
06:56 lissobone Oh no.
07:06 lissobone ABMs are an overkill for sparsely placed chests.
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07:09 lissobone I'll just make it a decoration.
07:09 lissobone This might require me to convert my mod into a modular modpack.
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13:04 MinetestBot [git] iliekprogrammar -> minetest/minetest: Clamp player wieldindex when processing hotbar item selection (#13098) fb28ca4 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/fb28ca463ea2762b43fe0d94955f6ede4df72f38 (2023-01-08T13:03:16Z)
13:06 MinetestBot [git] rollerozxa -> minetest/minetest: Fix crash on Android with IrrlichtMt9 (#13123) 390b5ca https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/390b5caaaacc7ba504d87331dad116208d90a6e7 (2023-01-08T13:04:17Z)
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16:24 lissobone Greetings.
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16:37 lissobone 2
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17:13 Krock sfan5: the old avatar looked better IMO
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17:14 rubenwardy alas, aging
17:14 lissobone Progressing.
17:25 sfan5 Krock: otoh i've had it for 3(?) years
17:25 Krock hold but gold
17:25 Krock -h
17:25 Krock just my opinion. it's your avatar after all ^.^
17:25 rubenwardy I believe I've had my current one for about 10 years
17:26 lissobone Wait, you had an avatar?
17:27 Krock it's not of the past
17:27 Krock his avatar is still in use
17:27 lissobone Have*
17:28 lissobone Oh, sure, that one.
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18:20 MTDiscord <MikeNight> sfan5 could you (or anyone with a say in the matter) weigh in on this issue? It would be a shame if fluxionary is forced to create a fork of moreblocks imo. https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/pull/191#issuecomment-1374720308
18:21 sfan5 can you summarize the issue with it
18:21 sfan5 does moreblocks have any active maintainer?
18:22 MTDiscord <Jonathon> officially Calinou
18:22 Krock why is this PR so huge?
18:23 MTDiscord <MikeNight> Do you mean I should summarise what the issue is about?
18:25 sfan5 what is the problem with this PR that requies someone with a say to (me) to look at? did anything relevant happen or was discussed in the ~150 collapsed comments/events?
18:26 MTDiscord <MikeNight> It never gets merged, some are against it being so huge.
18:27 MTDiscord <MikeNight> I just wanted to highlight the issue so someone could approve it
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18:29 sfan5 that's somewhat too brief
18:29 sfan5 the reason I'm asking for a summary is so I don't have to read the entire issue log top to bottom
18:32 MTDiscord <MikeNight> Oh sorry of course, I'll try to summarize the thread and post it here later. I see now that Calinou has been active in the beginning of the discussion.
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18:41 MTDiscord <MikeNight> I'll hold off for a while to see if Calinou responds. Sorry to disturb you, I thought all members had shared responsibility at first, and I targeted you since I see you're pretty active ;)
18:42 Calinou I am ok with merging it but it will need a 3.0.0 release (backwards-incompatible). Also, does this raise the minimum required engine version?
18:42 sfan5 well I didn't look up who has maintainer status on moreblocks but I am sort of the next layer if things can't/don't get resolved there
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18:44 MTDiscord <MikeNight> Oh you were here Calinou. I thought it was backwards compatible, it looks like it's handled with a legacy API?
18:46 MTDiscord <MikeNight> I shouldn't really discuss this further since it's not my PR and I don't have enough knowledge about it. I might just add more confusion.
18:48 MTDiscord <MikeNight> Fluxionary ^
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22:18 fluxionary it's intended to be backwards compatible (work with anything that expects the old API) and has been tested extensively. but once you update, you can't revert to an older version.
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22:18 fluxionary on another note, i'm trying to write floats to mod_storage w/ sqlite backend on a dev build, and they seem to be getting rounded to integers
22:22 sfan5 uh oh
22:23 fluxionary seems to be a 16 bit precision float O_O
22:25 fluxionary maybe not 16 bit. but less than 32?
22:30 FavoritoHJS are you sure you aren't writing integers instead?
22:31 fluxionary i'm certain
22:31 fluxionary working on an writing up an issue
22:32 fluxionary seems not to be related to sqlite, happens w/ files backend too
22:43 fluxionary https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13129
22:43 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> I don't even recognize sfan5 anymore 😔
22:44 sfan5 😔
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22:54 sfan5 fluxionary: that function wasn't changed since 2016
22:55 fluxionary sfan5, i believe it, but that seems to be where the truncation is happening
22:55 fluxionary i'm guessing people don't use metadata for storing "large" floating point numbers much
22:55 sfan5 not more than six digits? that's hard to believe
22:57 fluxionary not more than 6 digits w/out silently losing the low-order digits, i can believe that wouldn't get noticed until you're me and you're using mod_storage to store a timespan of a few days and decrement it by sub-second amounts
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