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IRC log for #minetest, 2022-05-01

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02:00 ghoti Krock, any idea why I am seeing 'WARNING[Main]: [xban] Unable to load database: Deserialization failed: constant table overflow' ?
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02:03 MTDiscord <Jonathon> because your file is to big
02:04 ghoti Ya ya, I get that. Just wondering if he might explain why losing my database is better than dealing with issues he has with JSON, or if he sees some other solution.
02:06 ghoti I am now writing something that will merge xban.db files but drop the oldest accounts (per last_seen).
02:06 ghoti Though I may have to write it in something else, as lua complains whever it loads the file. :/
02:07 MTDiscord <Jonathon> look at https://github.com/minetest-mods/areas/pull/47 to see who merged the fix for areas, and then https://github.com/minetest-mods/xban2/issues/19 who closed the issue claiming it was fixed when it really wasnt
02:07 MTDiscord <Jonathon> anyways, do you have a backup of your world with the xban file?
02:08 MTDiscord <Jonathon> if so, shut down server, add the file, and then restart
02:09 MTDiscord <Jonathon> then run /xban_cleanup to minimize it
02:40 ghoti I will try that, thanks.
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03:19 MisterE[m] anyone feel like playing minigames on minigames galore?
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09:04 MTDiscord <luatic> ghoti: Switch to PUC Lua temporarily, it doesn't have LuaJIT's max const limit
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15:21 MinetestBot [git] x2048 -> minetest/minetest: Initialize wield mesh colors when changing item. (#12254) c7bcebb https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c7bcebb62856ae5fdb23a13e6fa1052eae700ddf (2022-05-01T15:21:00Z)
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17:38 tmp_ Hey how do I Fix minetest dll missing?
17:39 tmp_ It say dll missing and reinstall application
17:39 tmp_ Already tried reinstall
17:39 sfan5 where did you download it?
17:39 sfan5 and which DLL does it say is missing?
17:40 tmp_ minetest.org and it's something about mscrt201.dll
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17:40 sfan5 https://www.minetest.net/downloads/ is the official site so try that
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17:40 tmp_ wait so .org is not officiel?
17:41 sfan5 definitely isn't
17:41 tmp_ ok is it virus?
17:41 tmp_ Should I scan?
17:41 sfan5 not sure but I doubt it
17:41 hillow1 tmp_: there is no virus on ubuntu's website
17:42 tmp_ ok
17:42 hillow1 tmp_: if you want to scan it, you might as well scan your own pc
17:43 MTDiscord <Tuxifan> Ubuntu?
17:43 hillow1 tmp_: I would check out the ubuntu home page for more info
17:43 MTDiscord <Tuxifan> He's on windows
17:44 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> might as well switch over to linux >:D
17:44 hillow1 if you scan from home, you can be sure you got an av on there already
17:44 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> don't pick ubuntu though, it's icky
17:44 MTDiscord <Tuxifan> It is
17:44 MTDiscord <Tuxifan> I personally run openmandriva
17:44 MTDiscord <Tuxifan> It's like Fedora except that it's not slow 😄
17:45 MTDiscord <Tuxifan> Anyways.
17:45 hillow1 :/ no need to bring a distro war into the channel
17:47 MTDiscord <Tuxifan> tmp_: how is it going?
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19:18 tmp_ Ok I am back I just tried run minetest.net versin
19:18 tmp_ But I get am same error
19:19 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> what version of windows are you on?
19:19 tmp_ Windows 10
19:21 Krock "mscrt201.dll" does not exist. please check the spelling and google that DLL. it must lead you to a microsoft.com page to download a restributable package
19:22 Krock however Minetest should not need that AFAIK
19:22 tmp_ I download that DLL site gave me exe instal but when run it does nothing
19:23 rubenwardy have you extracted the .zip?
19:23 tmp_ its an exe
19:24 tmp_ nut an zip
19:24 tmp_ not
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19:25 tmp_ its msvcrt1freeinstaller.exe that the dll download website give me
19:28 rubenwardy I meant the Minetest download
19:28 MTDiscord <GoodClover> mscrt201.dll means you need Visual C++ Redistributable
19:28 MTDiscord <GoodClover> oh no, that's msvcr
19:28 hillow1 what is that? a program?
19:29 tmp_ ok looks like I caught viruss from minetest.org I get spammed with advert notifications :-/  Shit I need reinstall windows anyways
19:32 MTDiscord <GoodClover> For Windows, you should just need to download the recommended .zip from https://www.minetest.net/downloads/, extract it somewhere your user has easy access to, and then run it.
19:33 MTDiscord <GoodClover> If you can be bothered to get a .7z extractor: https://minetest.kitsunemimi.pw/builds/ has LuaJIT versions
19:34 ROllerozxa windows is a virus itself, better uninstall it altogether
19:35 tmp_ Oh
19:37 MTDiscord <Jonathon> you dont need to bother with kitsunemimi.pw (sfan5 site), the mainstream ones are luajit
19:40 ROllerozxa yeah the official stable windows builds are more or less identical to the ones provided by sfan, he's the one who builds them after all. only difference is if you want a more up to date build following the master branch
19:41 ROllerozxa both have luajit and *I think* leveldb as well?
19:47 MTDiscord <GoodClover> oh! I thought the website was PUC
19:48 MTDiscord <GoodClover> I compile from master on linux anyways so do
19:48 MTDiscord <GoodClover> *so 🤷
19:48 hillow1 can i just download the zip and extract it?
19:48 ROllerozxa you only compile with PUC if you want to suffer :P
19:49 MTDiscord <GoodClover> hillow1: yes, to somewhere you have full permissions to
19:49 hillow1 i dont know how to
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20:06 tmp_ Ai<AiType::GPT>::APIError{"API returned status code 429"}
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20:07 tmp_ Ai<AiType::GPT>::APIError{"API returned status code 429"}
20:07 hillow1 i think the only permissions i can do are sudo and the root
20:08 ROllerozxa LMFAO
20:09 tmp_ Ai<AiType::GPT>::APIError{"API returned status code 429"}
20:11 ROllerozxa I guess I'll have to assume everyone who joins and asks weird questions that don't make sense is a GPT bot now
20:11 hillow1 how do i unpack a zip?
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20:19 A_Dragon .
20:19 hillow1 how do i unpack a zip?
20:19 A_Dragon I was promised bots!
20:19 hillow1 what is the link to the program that does it?
20:19 sfan5 if this is supposed to be one then it's certainly different
20:19 A_Dragon hillow1: with unzip software.
20:19 hillow1 how do i unpack a zip?
20:19 hillow1 A_Dragon: which is the best
20:20 A_Dragon Theres no such thing.
20:20 hillow1 A_Dragon: the best?
20:20 sfan5 .
20:20 A_Dragon yes
20:20 hillow1 ok
20:20 A_Dragon four seconds
20:20 A_Dragon hillow1: test
20:20 hillow1 i need the code or you wouldnt be able to do that
20:21 A_Dragon What code?
20:21 Noisytoot A_Dragon: _tmp was the one saying Ai<AiType::GPT>::APIError{"API returned status code 429"}
20:21 hillow1 i need the code
20:21 Noisytoot s/_tmp/tmp_/
20:21 A_Dragon hillow1: the code for what exactly?
20:21 hillow1 im getting error on the zip
20:21 MTDiscord <GoodClover> I'd figured hillow1 might be a bot earlier and way playing along, but did not expect tmp_ to be one
20:21 hillow1 unpacking zip
20:22 ROllerozxa tmp_ and hillow1 look to be on the same hostname too
20:22 Noisytoot They're connecting from the same IP
20:22 hillow1 ROllerozxa: yes
20:22 sfan5 it is a mystery
20:22 ROllerozxa lol, they even confirmed it??
20:26 definitelya Lul zip this.
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20:33 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> I'm just wondering what someone gets from letting one or multiple GPT bots loose in #minetest... I guess it's just innocent trolling? I don't see how it could be for any more nefarious purposes
20:35 MTDiscord <Jonathon> doesnt seem to be related to server attacks/makersworld. given no spam, please buy, or crashing
20:36 definitelya I loved when it said it had root access. xD
20:41 sfan5 it's either a new variant that starts out with a topical question, rejoins and keeps contextual awareness or some sort of prank
20:41 sfan5 ultimately neither belongs here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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22:37 organizedglobals GPT bots get confused when you ask them a lot of questions, they can't yet follow the topic given like humans can, so I think it would be funny if someone tries to have a conversation with it.
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22:38 organizedglobals * GPT bots get confused when you ask them a lot of questions, they can't yet follow the topic given like humans can, so I think it would be funny if someone tries to have a conversation with it.
22:38 organizedglobals #lurker will leave again now
22:39 runs hi
22:39 organizedglobals * GPT bots (including InstructGPT) get confused when you ask them a lot of questions, they can't yet follow the topic given like humans can, so I think it would be funny if someone tries to have a conversation with it.
22:39 organizedglobals #lurker will leave again now
22:40 MTDiscord <Warr1024> GPT bots get confused when you ask them questions too fast and the API rate limiting kicks in
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22:55 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Does anyone know if there's an existing issue for the way other players in MT MP sometimes move jerkily, as if they're being yanked to a new position by a very stiff and underdamped spring, so they overshoot and oscillate round the target position for a few frames?  I seem to notice it more especially in areas that have more complex rendering, so client FPS might be related.
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