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IRC log for #minetest, 2021-10-23

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00:28 MTDiscord <KamelMeister> What do you mean by 'left' ?
00:28 MTDiscord <KamelMeister> Do you mean leave?
00:31 Hawk777 I assumed they meant they wanted to uninstall the mod and keep using their world afterwards.
00:31 Hawk777 But I think they’ve left now.
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00:37 MTDiscord <KamelMeister> Ooh, okay
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00:38 MTDiscord <KamelMeister> My first thought would be to write a lua script to destroy unknown entities upon entity initialization, but I'm not sure that'd be super easy to make...
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00:43 MTDiscord <Jonathon> its easy, and its been done before
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10:24 AliasAlreadyTake Is there something that causes lag, but is NOT on the profiler? We had lags of 10+ seconds for at least one minute, so I took a profiler save of 1 sample. Total of 89 ms, while the dtime of this sample was 10 seconds. Any ideas?
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10:37 MTDiscord <luatic> Yes, the engine C++ might start hanging for whatever reason. That won't necessarily be the Lua thread, it might be the network thread for instance.
10:37 MTDiscord <luatic> You'd need a sampling C++ profiler (which ideally doesn't mess with performance too much) to have a closer look.
10:42 AliasAlreadyTake Would lag on the network thread affect dtime?
10:45 MTDiscord <luatic> Possibly
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12:39 MinetestBot [git] Montandalar -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix the creative trash slot for player 'trash' 1309953 https://git.io/JiOnf (2021-10-23T12:37:30Z)
12:39 MinetestBot [git] sfence -> minetest/minetest_game: Prevent blocking of fuel inventory by fuel replacement (#2895) 02ec133 https://git.io/JiOnU (2021-10-23T12:37:51Z)
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14:45 BuckarooBanzai AliasAlreadyTake: you might have the same issue we are having: some crafting actions consume quite the cpu time if you have lots of registered items
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14:46 BuckarooBanzai The responsible code part is on the c++ side and does not show up in the profiler
14:47 BuckarooBanzai Try to craft a few stacks of a shapeless recipe with middle click for example (assuming you are on the default game)
14:49 AliasAlreadyTake So ... its shapeless recipes?
14:54 AliasAlreadyTake Is there a way to proof its them?
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15:10 sfan5 sampling with perf would show time spent in c++
15:14 MTDiscord <SX> Any recipe works, it just happens that ones causing most problems because of huge stack sizes were shapeless
15:16 MTDiscord <SX> for one allowed eating after crafting before losing health with any stack, just not as bad for server with small stacks and some recovery time while dropping craft results off
15:20 MTDiscord <SX> I think it's basically just dos by flooding server
15:21 MTDiscord <SX> (but could probably still be made better server side)
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