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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> Hey Krock, I see that kilbith left you in charge of i3, I am looking at trying to extend it somewhat, but all of its formspec code is localized. I.e. I would have to regurgitate the entire init.lua to overwrite a few values. I just wanted to add a new tab to it for in-game documentation like how skins or armor or awards or waypoints all have a tab. I see there is a "newtab()" function but it seems to be for earlier renditions of the |
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MTDiscord |
inventory formspec. ideas on how to get myself worked into that system? (I just need a single button haha) |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> (from #dev) |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> adding a new item in where skins/waypoints/armor is would never work because of space |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> right, unless either horizontal scroll is added or I was able to overwrite say the awards tab for my game |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> and you can still register a whole new tab https://github.com/minetest-mods/i3/blob/main/API.md |
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<exe_virus> yeah but I have no examples, and overwriting it did nothing |
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<Jonathon> why cant you use the existing awards anyways? |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> it's a documentation mod? how would I abuse awards? |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> everything is local, I can't change the text or the image, etc. |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> maybe I can change the image since I load 2nd haha |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> but the tooltip will be wrong |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> ....the images come from the award? |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> nvm, I think I got it somewhat working |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> we're getting there |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> not i3 |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> hurm, but it wont be easy to switch between the two formspecs.... hurm...... |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> >icon https://gitlab.com/rubenwardy/awards |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> point is all the stuff in awards comes from the awards mod |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> so everything is not local |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> no, there's a lot of local display formspec stuff very much specific to awards in there |
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<exe_virus> and I would be overriding that, when player might want to actually be able to use awards with my game |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> so, I'll find a different path. It looks like this tab thing could work, just gotta rework my formspec a bit to look very close to i3's so it's more seemless |
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AristotIe |
I'm trying to run a minetest server on a 5.5.0-dev version, compiled from source code, and I get an error where it says that "type = cooking" isn't correct (this is in a crafting recipe) is there a new way to do this or... |
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AristotIe |
acutally, it says "invalid crafting recipe" for the next line, but .minetest/debug.txt points to "type = cooking" |
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calcul0n |
i think it just points the first line of the recipe, the problem can be somewhere else in the table |
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calcul0n |
but is it really type = cooking? it should be type = "cooking" with quotes |
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AristotIe |
hmm |
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AristotIe |
oh, ok |
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AristotIe |
for some reason minetest 5.1.0 didn't complain about that |
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Sokomine |
anyone seen AspireMint recently on any server or elsewhere? |
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rubenwardy |
they were on Discord half a year ago |
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rubenwardy |
oh nevermind |
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ghoti |
If a digiline is placed next to a wireless mesecon interface, it appears to attach. But is there any interaction? I don't see any digiline events coming across the wire. |
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calcul0n |
ghoti, it works fine here |
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Krock |
@exe_virus tbh I only used i3, but did not take care of any code-relevant tasks |
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Krock |
if you'd like to make larger changes, please split the code first into multiple files |
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Krock |
and a second PR would then be about extending it |
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Krock |
please keep in mind that some functions might benefit from an additional API abstraction layer to be more flexible for future changes |
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Krock |
loadfile(....)(i3_private_table) might be helpful to only expose API-relevant functions to the "i3" table |
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* ghoti |
scratches his head |
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ghoti |
calcul0n: Ok, HOW does it work? Do you get an event named for the wireless channel to the luacontroller, with a message denoting its state? Or do you send a GET to a digiline channel which gets picked up by the wireless device using a channel of the same name, or .. etc? |
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calcul0n |
as far as i understand the channel in wireless and digiline channels are not related |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> which wireless are we discussing |
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calcul0n |
so any digiline event coming to a wireless is transmitted to other wireless with the same name |
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calcul0n |
good question, moremesecons i guess :) |
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ghoti |
AH, that is useful to know, though it is not what I am looking to do. Any tips on how to get the status of bank of wireless nodes into variables in a luacontroller? |
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ghoti |
Perhaps use additional luacontrollers with mesecon inputs to extend a main luacontroller's gpio? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> There are two wireless mods that I know of, but they likely operate the same |
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ghoti |
GreenXenith, I'm using moremesecons_wireless. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> kay |
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MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Remove a few unused functions reported by callcatcher (#11658) ecc6f4b https://git.io/JKkjx (2021-10-12T18:12:20Z) |
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calcul0n |
not sure to get what you want but yes, i think a mesecons signal is the only way to get the status of the node |
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calcul0n |
if by status you mean on/off |
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MinetestBot |
[git] savilli -> minetest/minetest: Fix player HP desync between client and server 6ea558f https://git.io/JKIvF (2021-10-12T18:12:49Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Remove broken timeout behaviour fe5cb2c https://git.io/JKIvb (2021-10-12T18:13:09Z) |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> Gotcha understood Krock. The only things I would change short term would be to break the file up, change the sub menus (awards, skins, armor, etc) into abstract tabs so any set could be loaded, rather than just those 5, and probably make it a horizontal scrollbar container so that we can have as many tabs as someone registers. The final thing would be to work on the new tab API, as I think it's decent, just not great |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> Oh, and make compression stuff an API, so that mods can self register their own compressed crafts |
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Krock |
yes, that totally sounds like a good plan. Once the huge chunk of init.lua is split up, this should be rather simple to implement |
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wsor4035 |
Krock, you still around by any chance? |
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Krock |
wsor4035: 200 OK |
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beanzilla |
Is there a way to ask mod storage to be saved? (I want to use mod storage but I don't want to loose a lot of data because it never saved when the server crashes (if it crashes but didn't save in a while)) |
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Krock |
beanzilla: periodically done by server |
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Krock |
all 5 seconds or so, I believe. |
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Krock |
depends on server_map_save_interval |
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Krock |
to answer your question: no, there's no such function |
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beanzilla |
Oh, ok, well then I will use the mod storage then. (I kind of figured it periodically saved by is self, but wanted to just ask) |
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Krock |
oh. it also gets written when the StorageRef userdata is garbage-collected |
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Bombo |
does https://github.com/EliasFleckenstein03/playerlist work for anyone? does it work with 5.4.1? nothing happens when i press 'sneak' |
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Bombo |
i added a log to the init.lua: 'controls.register_on_press(function(user, key) if key == playerlist_key and user then minetest.log("action", "[MOD] sneak pressed") ...' but doesn't happen |
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Bombo |
at the end i added minetest.log("action", "[MOD] playerlist loaded") so i see that it gets loaded |
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wsor4035 |
well, i did ping you, but was going to ask if you could take a look at https://github.com/minetest-mods/i3/pull/34 sometime |
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Krock |
wsor4035: okay. will do. |
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sfan5 |
huh seems like mineclone5 disappeared from contentdb |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> yup |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> licensing issues |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> rather ironic |
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wsor4035 |
thanks krock |
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wsor4035 |
sfan5: https://content.minetest.net/threads/821/ |
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sfan5 |
huh |
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wsor4035 |
read the last comment, response to "huh seems like mineclone5 disappeared from contentdb" |
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sfan5 |
yes I get it |
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Gustavo6046 |
for some reason going south or east is always faster than going west or north |
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Gustavo6046 |
it seems like it's going west or north that is abnormally slow, though |
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Gustavo6046 |
why is that? how can I eliminate this asymmetry? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> what game/mods/etc |
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Gustavo6046 |
ah |
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Gustavo6046 |
minetest_game, and a selection of mods |
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Gustavo6046 |
I'm starting to suspect it's the sprint mod |
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Gustavo6046 |
let me sed up a list of loaded mods from the world.mt |
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Gustavo6046 |
aaa sed |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> sounds like incorrect velocity or something being applied, but havent touched that mod |
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Gustavo6046 |
er |
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Gustavo6046 |
it was called hbsprint or something |
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Gustavo6046 |
ah there we go! |
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Gustavo6046 |
https://termbin.com/fzkm |
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Gustavo6046 |
hmm |
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Gustavo6046 |
are boat controls not simulated/predicted clientside? |
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Gustavo6046 |
sometimes they seem to wait for server acknowledgement instead |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> correct |
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Gustavo6046 |
it could be done like in Unreal |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> im not sure even sscsm would help |
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Gustavo6046 |
even what? |
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Gustavo6046 |
I'm talking about Replication |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> because the entity is serverside, while the player is client side |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> sscsm = server sent client side mods |
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Gustavo6046 |
ah |
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Gustavo6046 |
well, Unreal does that, but only some functions are executed clientside |
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Gustavo6046 |
usually predictable things like simple physics (position += velocity * time_delta) |
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Gustavo6046 |
let me find a link |
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Gustavo6046 |
aha! I think it is this https://duckduckgo.com/l/?uddg=https://wiki.beyondunreal.com/Replication_overview&rut=18cd0d074700be58712e370a56e6105727c732ebe4692d5b572b2ccce7f5390e |
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Gustavo6046 |
anyway |
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Gustavo6046 |
are cocoa beans plantable? |
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Gustavo6046 |
err |
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Gustavo6046 |
ddg link lol |
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calcul0n |
<Gustavo6046> for some reason going south or east is always faster than going west or north <- it might be a mod adding wind, making you slower when you walk against it |
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calcul0n |
and yes you can plant cocoa beans by placing them on jungle tree trunks |
