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IRC log for #minetest, 2021-09-08

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03:15 Menchers "/home/menche/.local/src/minetest/src/database/database-postgresql.h:23:10: fatal error: 'libpq-fe.h' file not found"
03:15 Menchers postgresql? I have that disabled
03:15 Menchers why's it looking for an include file for it
03:16 Menchers it seems to be properly #if'd out
03:16 Menchers wat
03:17 Menchers serverenvironment.cpp shouldn't be including that
03:26 * Menchers nukes the repo and checks it out fresh
03:26 Menchers huh it works now
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04:13 MTDiscord <fatalerror420> Did someone say my name?
04:13 MTDiscord <fatalerror420> Oh i mean
04:13 MTDiscord <fatalerror420> Did someone say my name?
04:14 MTDiscord <Noodlemire> Why did you type the exact same thing twice?
04:16 MTDiscord <fatalerror420> Bc my nickname wasnt right
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16:15 jonadab It's the same?
16:19 MTDiscord <Noodlemire> Oh, his Discord nickname was different before.
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17:40 jonadab Does the bridgebot not show us the current Discord nick on the Libera side?  I see "fatalerror420" for him both times.
17:45 rubenwardy it uses username, not nickname
17:52 jonadab That seems like an odd choice, given that the whole purpose of nicks is that that's how you want people to see / refer to you at the moment.
17:53 mmuller I'm totally guessing, but could it be that Discord nicks are non-unique?
17:58 MTDiscord <Noodlemire> Discord nicks are very non-unique. It's 100% plausible to have fourty users by the name of "Bob"
18:00 sfan5 just forty?
18:01 MTDiscord <Noodlemire> Or more. I just pulled a number out of my head.
18:11 MTDiscord <Noodlemire> Though, it's also the same for regular usernames. Discord uses a 4 digit "discriminator" to tell people with the exact same username apart. You could have up to 9999 people with "Bob" as their username at once.
18:16 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> We use username more because nicks change a lot
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18:27 jonadab I see.
18:28 jonadab IRC nicks aren't always registered and protected, but _at any given moment_ they're unique network-wide.
18:29 jonadab And for historical reasons IRC account names don't always _exist_.  Users don't have to register with services.  Most of us do, because it lets us register and protect our primary nick.  But it's not required.
18:30 jonadab This is, of course, because account registration is something that was bolted on later, rather than a designed-in feature, because IRC is _old_.
18:31 jonadab Though, channels can have a flag that means you can't join if you aren't authenticated with services.
18:31 jonadab But most channels don't have it.
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22:50 katp32 hello, I have several questions; for one, is there a way to set the directory the server loads games from, either via command line args or the config?
22:54 sfan5 there is not
22:56 katp32 argh, ok...
22:57 katp32 is there a way to set the server to log to the syslog instead of a file?
22:57 sfan5 also no, but if you run systemd any service output will automatically go to syslog
22:58 katp32 I do not run systemd.. this is going to be annoying :(
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23:10 erlehmann katp32 pipe stuff to syslog
23:10 erlehmann katp32, man logger
23:11 katp32 yeah, I'm aware, but it means that now I need to deal with tampering with the service script, and just generally ugh
23:11 MTDiscord <Warr1024> I thought MT automatically spit stuff out to stderr too
23:11 erlehmann that's true for every service you want to change behaviour for
23:12 erlehmann either you change some service script or some systemd unit file or something else that runs it
23:12 katp32 I- yes, obviously. I mean that I'd rather not have to change the service script and just be able to use a config option :P
23:13 erlehmann katp32 use a different service manager then than whatever you are using now i guess? like s6 or so
23:14 erlehmann but really, piping to logger is not that hard
23:18 katp32 that's really not the point; for one, having to pipe to logger means losing severity level information
23:20 erlehmann how that?
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