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Ilomiglio |
hi, i'm writing a mod for teleporting back the player if they trepass a threshold: https://paste.rs/kal.lua |
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Ilomiglio |
however, i can't get passed neither player obj neither its name |
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Ilomiglio |
i was disconnected |
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ilomiglio |
keeping disconnecting with hexchat, trying with webchat |
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MTDiscord |
<fatalerror420> Well whats your issue? |
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ilomiglio |
i get that player or name is nil |
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ilomiglio |
it's like player obj doesn't get passed to the function |
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BuckarooBanzai |
!tell ilomiglio you have to use `minetest.get_connected_players()` and iterate over the returned players periodically |
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MinetestBot |
BuckarooBanzai: yeah, yeah |
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MTDiscord |
<fatalerror420> Also you can use is_player |
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MTDiscord |
<fatalerror420> And use ipairs |
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MTDiscord |
<fatalerror420> _, player in pairs(get_objects_in_radius) blah blah if player:is_player then |
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ilomiglio: Aug-03 07:50 UTC <BuckarooBanzai> you have to use `minetest.get_connected_players()` and iterate over the returned players periodically |
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Ilomiglio |
i found a difference between lua and luajit, in the former an integer division is performed via // (ex. 10 // 3 ) while luajit uses math.floor and math.ceil |
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Ilomiglio |
but i tried an os.execute cmd, and failed for some reason |
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sfan5 |
you either get a lua 5.1 or luajit environment |
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sfan5 |
integer division and the integer type are a 5.3 feature, that is never available |
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sfan5 |
!tell Ilomiglio ...and os.execute is not possible due to sandboxing by default |
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sfan5: I'll pass that on when Ilomiglio is around |
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sfan5 |
maybe they'll come back |
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twoelk |
duh ......... just after I finished composing a lengthy post the forum goes into maintenance ...... hmm better save my text for reuse I guess |
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celeron55 |
yep, i'm in a bit of a hurry, tomorrow it wouldn't have had a valid certificate anymore |
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celeron55 |
trying to finish moving it to another host |
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sfan5 |
the maintenance page still links to webchat.freenode.net btw |
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celeron55 |
oops 8) |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> oh my, there's a massive hidden archive of old minetest versions on 8dromeda.net? |
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twoelk |
so that evprevia is the hint-blueprint to a project? |
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celeron55 |
that archive of old versions has been linked a couple of times on the forums |
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celeron55 |
well, at least once. maybe the other times were on IRC |
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celeron55 |
i will probably use this backup as the final data for moving the wikis also, so don't get carried away making edits now |
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iisu |
I just came to the forum to see the message. |
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iisu |
Congrats on the server change. |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> will the forum page loading hopefully improve now on the new server? |
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sfan5 |
it will |
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iisu |
I can already barely make coffee while it loads. You're gonna deprive us of caffeine. :P |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Hiya been trying to find the correct IRC channel here on Matrix did I finally found it after referencing the wiki that it's on libera now? ? |
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sfan5 |
yep |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Awesome thank you very much sfan5 for reassuring me of that. ? |
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Guest8533 |
Good morn |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Guest8533: Aww thanks! Good morning to you too! :) |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Interesting dropped by to say good morning then just quitted. |
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* twoelk |
takes a glance at the forums and notices the maintenance timeframe has changed |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> huh? |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
> * <@twoelk:libera.chat> takes a glance at the forums and notices the maintenance timeframe has changed |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
What are you even talking about? I reloaded it and it's still state the time started and that it expected to PROBABLY ake 1 to 3 hours. Key word PROBABLY meaning it's not an "promised" time frame but merely an reference point. |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> it has always said 1 to 3 hours ever since celeron55 edited it to specify that the forums are moving to another server |
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celeron55 |
just a moment |
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* twoelk |
thought he remembered it was less when his first effort to save his post produced a maintenance page |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
> * <@twoelk:libera.chat> thought he remembered it was less when his first effort to save his post produced a maintenance page |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
It probably wasn't there or IF it was changed to a latter time frames then there were legit issues. Migrations can go wrong and fast especially if your moving from one network to another. Or other complicated migration tasks. |
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* twoelk |
is still holding that edited page in limbo to see if it executes correctly once mainenance is finished |
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twoelk |
not complaining just observing and drinking some coffee and doing work and coming back, hitting the refresh button, making more coffee and so forth |
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celeron55 |
the forum is now online on the new machine |
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twoelk |
cool |
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* twoelk |
has another look at the evprevia |
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twoelk |
yay |
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twoelk |
hm, hit the submit button on the pre-mainenance edited page and it uploaded without complaining, didn't expect that to work so seamingless |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
<celeron55> "the forum is now online on the..." <- Awesome just noticed better responsiveness so hopefully the forums will be more stable for me. As I am mineminer there. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> your mineminer? interesting |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Yup and nice to see the Discord bridged here too. Since I prefer Matrix interface better than theirs. |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
So I only use it for the one person and my VPS host. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> im the exact opposite, preferring discord interface to matrix |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> that said, matrix's isnt that bad aside from spaces which are in the 1800s compared to discord |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
hehe that's interesting, I like Matrix (Element) since it's easier for me to read as a deaf and blind person. I feels like Discord is just not that friendly. |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
MTDiscord: Watcha you mean? I feels like Discord is turning into a Social Media platform than a chat platform. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> interesting, how does reading online work when deaf and blind if you dont mind me asking? |
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twoelk |
ok, that got me interested. how does that work |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
MTDiscord: Here is my post on that actually, would be easier to check that out than to wall the text here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=397824#p397824 |
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twoelk |
some brail exposing monitory thingy? |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
twoelk: Read my last reply please. |
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twoelk |
just copied the link to browser |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
alrighty it should pull to the post in question. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> oh, so your not fully blind i take it? |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Yes but I am still legally obviously |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> ah ok, that makes sense |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Aww thanks you for caring to be of understanding of me. ❤️ |
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GNUHacker |
hi #minetest |
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GNUHacker |
I want port some minecraft mods to minetest, maybe Ill begin with rustic mod idk |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
GNUHacker: Heya there. :) |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
GNUHacker: That's interesting I love how the Drawers mod gotten over to Minetest. It's helps out my spawn on my DeafBlind Minetest Gaming server. |
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GNUHacker |
mineclone is perfect mod base |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> how about no |
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twoelk |
make sure to check out consider all assets licenses or make new ones media |
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GNUHacker |
some minecraft mods has been ported to minetest but to mtg, mineclone is WIP, but is a better mod base |
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GNUHacker |
many minecraft mods are Free Software with Free assets |
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twoelk |
many but not all |
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specing |
I'm against blindly 1:1 copying features from proprietary games. It reinforces the belief that libre gaming is nothing but copies/clones of "real games" |
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twoelk |
often the code is opensource while some textures are more restricted |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
GNUHacker: Yes but doesn't means you can take/"borrows" them. assests often have other licenses than the code base which ARE often MIT/GPL variants. |
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GNUHacker |
some free software mods examples: rustic, ice and fire, opencomputers |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
twoelk: Exactly |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
specing: Indeed even Drawers in this game is distintly difference from he Minecraft "version". And i likes it that way. ? |
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GNUHacker |
opencomputer minecraft mod is a great mod to port, is free software under MIT license and have media under CC0 license, also have LUA code to manage the "openOS" computer system |
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twoelk |
reusing good ideas from other games is ok in my opinion but mileage of others may vary |
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twoelk |
I don't think though that every aspect of mc is worth copying |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
twoelk: Exactly |
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* twoelk |
wonders where is old efforts of porting some rockraider ideas to mt got lost |
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twoelk |
uhm his not is |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Does anybody in here is able to help me understand if there a way to shutter this up "<ACTION> 2021-08-03 15:44:05: [Server] DBGamer takes mobs:hairball from chest |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
at (-836,20,819)". I know this is from the Pipeworks mod but the modder (I can't remember how to spell her name sorry) said there's nothing she can do about it as per knowledge. Aside from of course shutting ACTION entirely by upping the log sensitively. Since I still want to talk to my players and see them logs into the server. |
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sfan5 |
if you're watching the log interactively you could do e.g. (assuming Linux): tail -f debug.txt | grep -v --line-buf '\[Server\] .* takes .* from chest at .*$' |
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sfan5 |
that would simply not display such messages |
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sfan5 |
or actually if you don't care abotu chest you could comment that code in MTG out entirely |
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sfan5 |
about chests* |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
sfan5: so you mean on LN 227 to LN 228 in chests.lua correct? This is what's there... minetest.log("action", player:get_player_name() .. |
| 15:56 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
" moves stuff in chest at " .. minetest.pos_to_string(pos)) |
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sfan5 |
yep |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Remove that and it should stops the loggings? |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Got ya! |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
<sfan5> "yep" <- ACTUALLY it was a bit more involved since there were take and put references but being how easily "read able" LUA coding is it wasn't that difficult for me to resolve. It's was just a bit beyond that point (in the 22x area I believe). |
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* FriendlyPerson[m |
posted a file: (10KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/jLiVzHBJQgEUJbxiywNvEpXy/chests.lua > |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
That's what I ended up with to cease the loggings as it been said. |
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beanzilla |
What is the itemstring for mineclone2's air (I.E. "default:air" for MTG) |
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rubenwardy |
air is in the engine, not MTG or MC2 |
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rubenwardy |
it's "air" in both cases |
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beanzilla |
Ah, ok so in this case the itemstring would just be "air"? Since it's the engine making it? |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> yeah, it's just "air" |
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beanzilla |
Okay, thank you for the help, now back to breaking things in my mod... (err, fixing things. :) ) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: OpenAL: Free buffers on quit 4a3728d https://git.io/JBjid (2021-08-03T18:29:55Z) |
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GNUHacker |
opencomputer minecraft mod is a great mod to port, is free software under MIT license and have media under CC0 license, also have LUA code to manage the "OpenOS" computer system, Ill try port this mod to mineclone, Ill begin making the computer boxes nodes, maybe Ill need use digilines depend, idk |
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celeron55 |
devwiki moved to the other host now, also updated to almost the newest mediawiki version |
| 20:04 |
celeron55 |
there's some work to do there due to the upgrade, it was about a bazillion years worth of skipped versions |
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celeron55 |
meaning, it's not 100% compatible with the content |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
<celeron55> "meaning, it's not 100% compatibl..." <- This is why updating regularly is hence important. Now of days thanks to automatic updates for most server sided and applicaitons' stuffs this came a long way. Not perfect but that's what backing up is for. |
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celeron55 |
it would have broken anyway at some point |
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celeron55 |
there's no automatic upgrade method for mediawiki anyway, what are you even talking about |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
celeron55: Hence I said "most" not all applications and server sided. |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> mediawiki is a bit of an outliar, it doesn't have a web-based administration panel either by default |
| 20:19 |
celeron55 |
i like mediawiki, it's simple and robust |
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celeron55 |
they never bloated it up into a silly unmanageable unrepairable balloon like many projects do |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
celeron55: Sure indeed frustrating when a project does go crazy off tangent. Yesterday's Discord updates made it seems like a Social Media platform than what's it's original purposes were to talk. Now they got a laundry list of "features" on top of that which in my opinion doesn't benefits that. This is also why I like Matrix better as well. It's largely sticks to the points. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Literally no one asked for the Discord threads feature. It's not useful. Fortunately, it can be disabled server-side. |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
EXACTLY! Nor the stickers, profiles ships, etc. |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I dont really care about the profile stuff, its all cosmetic anyway |
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rubenwardy |
there's a mediawiki docker image, not sure if it supports autoupdating |
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rubenwardy |
if they had an upgrade script, updating would be `git pull && ./utils/migrate-db.sh` or whatever |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
MTDiscord: Sure it's doesn't "bugs" anybody but to me it's becoming to akin to Facebook than a Instant Messaging chatting platform... |
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rubenwardy |
I disagree, but also so? |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
I feels at the very least it's wasting resources to some extent. For example instead of working on all of that what about making 2FA accept other forms like Hardware Authentications, SMSes, etc? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> It already has SMS? |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
So it's become more accessible to more people? |
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rubenwardy |
SMS 2fa isn't secure |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
MTDiscord: It's does? Not requiring Googleauth/Authy? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Yes, it has SMS. Also FYI, MTDiscord is the bridge. The name after it is the Discord user speaking. |
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rubenwardy |
TOTP is the protocol that GAuth and Authy use |
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rubenwardy |
it's an open protocol - which is why there are so many apps for it |
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rubenwardy |
there are even FF/Chrome extensions |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
MTDiscord: I will have to check this out really because when I was "FriendlyPerson" on there it was be flagging as a "compromised" account so I wanna 2FA as soon as I reliably do so. If it just a phone # and a single SMS now that's would works wonder for me. |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
Also understood thanks for you for reassuring me that Green. :) |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> ? |
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FriendlyPerson[m |
I am sorry GreenXenith but I am not seeing that config optoin on the Discord web client. I click "activate 2 Factor" or whatever that button is and it's says you can auth with either Google or Authy and for you enter the QR then enter the 6 digits. |
| 20:52 |
GNUHacker |
how can I get a placed node param2? |
| 20:52 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> FriendlyPerson: You need to enable regular 2FA before you can enable SMS I guess |
| 20:52 |
GNUHacker |
I tryed core.get_node_at(pos).param2 but nope |
| 20:53 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> And as rubenwardy said, TOTP is an open protocol so you dont have to use Google or Authy |
| 20:53 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> GNUHacker: core.get_node(pos).param2 |
| 20:53 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> or minetest.get_node |
| 20:53 |
GNUHacker |
I also try node:get_param2_data() but return nil |
| 20:54 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
Ah I see well that wouldn't work for me since I don't even own a Smartphone and you are correct and I tried TOTP Linux clients and they refuse to work with Discord. I think it might because Discord REQUIRES you to own a physical smart device. Because I configured them with the Discord presets. |
| 20:54 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Doesnt Google Auth have a web client? |
| 20:55 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Ah, there is a chrome extension |
| 20:55 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> FriendlyPerson: Like Rubenwardy said, you can get FireFox or Chrome extensions for TOTP |
| 20:56 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
And you think Discord won't mind it? |
| 20:56 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Authy also has a Linux client |
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GNUHacker |
GreenXenith: thanks! |
| 20:56 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> I dont think Discord cares what you use as long as it gets a valid code |
| 20:57 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
If you say so, I am still at a loss on why my past attempts on my old account didn't do jacks. But I guess I will try an extension now. |
| 20:57 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Authy has a snap https://snapcraft.io/authy |
| 20:57 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
Correct that one of the htings I tried. |
| 20:58 |
rubenwardy |
Discord won't be able to tell |
| 20:58 |
Pexin |
Every part of this conversation is horrifying |
| 20:58 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
I choose the Discord preset, enter my Discord username and tag and the code instead of the QR and that client did nothing after I enter that. |
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Platekoala[m] |
<FriendlyPerson[m> "Ah I see well that wouldn't work" <- hm? |
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Platekoala[m] |
i use aegis, it works fine |
| 21:00 |
Platekoala[m] |
give a hard rejection to authy |
| 21:03 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> FriendlyPerson: I just used https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/auth-helper/ with web Discord and it worked perfectly |
| 21:06 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
I'm chrome based and just tried GAuth and it retricts me to a site so I removed it https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/totp%20authenticator and I can't see anything else that relevant and doesn't relies on a phone. |
| 21:06 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> ill try it on chrome, give me a bit |
| 21:07 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
Alrighty let me know if you find anything useful for that. |
| 21:09 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
<Pexin> "Every part of this conversation..." <- I know right? BUT... it's where my VPS host is that worth being with. Unless they provide other reliable support options I am stuck "Discording" them. And I actually use their support cause I opted for their Sysadmin package just in case I need the extra hands. |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> FriendlyPerson: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/authenticator/bhghoamapcdpbohphigoooaddinpkbai?hl=en this is the same extension I use fore FireFox but for chrome. Works perfectly as well. |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> for* |
| 21:23 |
sfan5 |
!tell erlehmann https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/11511 |
| 21:23 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: I'll pass that on when erlehmann is around |
| 21:28 |
erlehmann |
thx sfan5 |
| 21:28 |
MinetestBot |
erlehmann: Aug-03 21:23 UTC <sfan5> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/11511 |
| 21:28 |
FriendlyPerson[m |
Awesome thank you very much GreenXith for doing all of this for me. Much appreciate your dedication to helping me with my frustrations with the platform. ❤️ |
| 21:29 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> No problem, glad it works for ya ? |
| 21:31 |
erlehmann |
sfan5, i suggest to ask anon5 to review the boundaries |
| 21:31 |
erlehmann |
sfan5, he may have some more ideas |
| 21:32 |
sfan5 |
more ideas for things to check? |
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erlehmann |
sfan5, yes, more boundaries that he found maybe |
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erlehmann |
where the code goes brrrrrrrr crash |
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erlehmann |
i mean he has this proxy for minetest protocol |
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