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00:28 beanzilla Does minetest.get_player_by_name() return a specific thing for if the player is offline and/or if the player has never been on the server?
00:29 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> No, it will simply return nil if the player is not online
00:29 beanzilla Ok, thank you.
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16:04 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> is there a way to make a formspec image not resize when you resize your window so it stays consistant no matter the screen size
16:09 twoelk summon a wizard that says "you shall not scale" in a stern voice
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16:12 MTDiscord <Warr1024> As I understand it all visual elements in MT can be scaled by the client and this is intentional
16:12 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> holy shit that works!!!!!
16:12 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> jk
16:12 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> is there a way to disable that?
16:12 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> for a formspec
16:13 MTDiscord <Warr1024> It may be possible to make sure things scale consistently, but you can't disallow a user from using accessibility features like GUI scaling or custom fonts.
16:13 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> uh huh
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16:45 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> i am going to kill
16:45 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/867809704271937566/unknown.png
16:46 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> oops
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17:24 independent__ I am slightly paranoid about a house fire destroying my sentimental documents. is it worth the effort to scan my physical media and back the scans up? Photocpying is wasteful of ink, and i feel that files are much better,
17:26 celeron55_ there are only two variables when deciding that
17:26 celeron55_ the worth of the documents, and the likelihood of house fire
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17:27 celeron55_ well, the third variable is the effort
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17:32 independent__ I have never had a house fire. but paper ink fades... maybe in a few decades they will be lost
17:33 independent__ The effort is taking paper, putting it inside our houshold printer, then scanning.
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17:47 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Modern phone cameras are good enough at taking photos that it's a lot faster to capture documents that way than a flatbed scanner, IF you're okay with some distortion.
17:47 MTDiscord <Warr1024> More useful for record keeping than sentimental archival, granted.
17:48 MTDiscord <Warr1024> On the other hand, you can capture images for actual use this way, then buy a decent firesafe to keep the originals.
17:48 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Remember that waterproof may be more important than fireproof in an actual fire, because the damage done by hosing your partially burned house down to quell the last of the embers might actually be worse than the flames themselves.
17:49 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Most modern inks don't fade at an appreciable rate that it's worth worrying about it, unless you're talking like those thermal transfer printouts, or if you're keeping them in the sun.
17:51 independent__ ah yeah
17:53 MTDiscord <Warr1024> you can stack some books on documents for a day or so to flatten them out and undo creases, if necessary, so long as they don't have sticky stuff on them and aren't all different sizes and shapes.  Then see if you can setup a tripod with a camera, possibly a phone camera, and photograph them that way, one at a time.  Then store them away in your safe, and you can use the photos you've taken as the "living" copies when you want to access
17:53 MTDiscord them, as well as to back them up digitally.
17:57 independent__ i prefer scanning as it is more consistent.
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18:01 Krock i prefer spamming as it is more convenient
18:04 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Scanning nets you better quality at higher time cost.  That decision is just a matter of cost/benefit.
18:04 MTDiscord <Warr1024> If you got the scanner and you got the patience, go for it.
18:23 independent__ i will
18:25 independent__ I am a teen who just left school for the summer holidays. I like the idea of making backups of my personal documents, like old diaries.
18:26 specing independent__: get an ADF scanner
18:26 specing the one that can fetch paper on its own
18:27 specing And make sure to only write documents on A4 pages. Notebooks are difficult to scan automatically
18:27 independent__ Too much cost for what is not an office, but a one-off experience, dealing with notebooks
18:27 independent__ *additional
18:28 independent__ We have a home printer, and that is what i am going to use.
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18:45 specing independent__: don't have an ADF scanner at school?
18:45 independent__ I'm not bringing mymost sentimental documents to school, a house of chaos.
18:45 specing In uni we had 2 massive copiers for student use, they are A3 sheets for breakfast
18:46 specing ate*
18:48 independent__ Ha, as if we had such machines for public use. Last time ichecked, there was this room with this powster printing machine. I do nto remember any pother machines.
18:48 sfan5 is your keyboard broken by chance
18:49 independent__ yes, space is entirely damaged
18:49 independent__ it's a real pain.
18:52 specing I remember when I was a kid, I laptoped on a laptop which had a gpu that I had to reflow once a week
18:52 specing you have it easy
18:53 MTDiscord <Warr1024> If these documents are of significant sentimental value and not easily replaced, I'd be wary of entrusting them to some feed mechanism anyway :-)
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19:00 independent__ I remember when my battery was broken on a tablet computer,so i used the warranty. and they destroyed all my data. I forgot what it was after a year.
19:00 independent__ I hate data loss
19:01 specing lol
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19:01 specing yeah, the first thing they do is factory reset & see if issue goes away
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19:02 independent__ Oh... so i guess i will not give my computer to the ASUS centre, to fix the SSD and what used to be a fan which was noisy (sounded like a car engine at some points).
19:03 independent__ They may even blame linux for all the issues.
19:08 specing make backups
19:09 independent__ i didnt knosw that in 2017
19:09 independent__ i was some... 10 yr old
19:11 specing your parents should have
19:11 independent__ Nah, they're "too busy" for backups. But they would lose their work otherwise DX
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19:51 independent__ I hate youtube. UI am trying to play some music on thesmart tv,and it keeps on deleting my queue because i use the porly designedwbe application.
19:54 independent__ If it takes it's UI open source, all the issues i have will be fixed within a few weeks. It's the second most used website.
19:59 MTDiscord <Jordach> It’s because google wants you using chromecast
20:00 MTDiscord <Jordach> Again they also want you using android but even their own apps are second fiddle to iOS devices
20:00 MTDiscord <Jordach> For some reason el goog likes to prefer iOS apps over android
20:03 independent__ still, youyube on my horribly underpowered alcatel 1 phone goes horribly.
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20:07 independent__ And i am using vivaldi... which is not chrome, so i guess this ismy punishment for not lettinggoogle track me.
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20:12 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> Vivaldi is a slightly modified chromium
20:12 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> You're basically still using Chrome, just with someone else's proprietary bits
20:13 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> If your device really struggles with YouTube, maybe use NewPipe (Android) or MPV (Linux)
20:16 independent__ yeah, but vivalidi is a rare exampleof good propietary.
20:17 independent__ I love it. The propietary UI is worth it
20:17 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> Ehh..it's ok I guess
20:17 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> I'll stick to FF for my everyday web stuff
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20:18 independent__ Ha, i switched to that. but it didn't have native tab groups in the way i use them
20:18 MTDiscord <Warr1024> NewPipe is decent, but YT pulls the rug out from under them often enough that it was useless trying to use the F-Droid version.
20:18 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> "Native Tab Groups" ?
20:18 MTDiscord <Warr1024> I have to get NewPipe updates directly through the app.
20:19 independent__ And the sidebar is great. i can access my downloads and history through the sidebar. So convineint.
20:19 MTDiscord <Warr1024> FireFox is my middle browser.
20:20 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> >looks Ctrl+H, Ctrl+B, and Tab Containers
20:21 independent__ Ha, if you go tovivaldi, you wont want to turn back.
20:21 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> I'm not saying that sidebar support couldn't be better, because it could be (there was an addon I had a while back to move tabs w/ containers to the sidebar, but I don't frankly use it enough to care) but the stuff does exist
20:21 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> I used Vivaldi for a while, but I'd rather not continue to make Chrome the only rendering engine on the Web
20:22 independent__ hmm... yeah, i just prefer vivaldi.
20:22 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> ok
20:22 independent__ stay with inneficency, i guess :-p
20:22 MTDiscord <Warr1024> 2/3 of my browsers are gecko, 1 is chrome
20:23 MTDiscord <Benrob0329> If I wanted to be efficient, I'd close my web browser, not open it :P
20:24 independent__ Ha, what if your work is online? I guess you couldhire someone to brute-force ssh to access the server,i guess :-P
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20:33 Cybille Opera GX Bowser?  ... with Sidebar, VPN and GX-Control (CPU/Cache/Network SpeedMeter) ?
20:34 independent__ Eh, i dislike Opera. it stole vivaldi's UI: https://cdn-production-opera-website.operacdn.com/staticfiles/assets/images/main/home/opera-for-desktop--rebranding@2x.8e7df82b968b.webp
20:35 independent__ Compromise - i use vivaldi for some, and opera for some
20:36 independent__ Opera is toned down vivaldi from  my shallow research
20:38 Cybille Compormise: IE,FF,Chrome, Opera GX (not Opera) ... for better Support and Checks of WebSite Troubles ... Stay Up to Date
20:38 independent__ XD
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22:01 independent__ another arc... i should plug the charger in first, not the laptop.
22:19 MTDiscord <Jordach> just use safari /s
22:21 specing yep independent__
22:22 specing independent__: though that's an indication that there's no fets on the input lines, which means you can probably extract 9-12V of the li-ion battery through the power connector
22:23 independent__ Oh...what does that mean?whatcan i do with it?
22:23 specing idk
22:25 independent__ Always trust ASUS to cheap out :-P
22:29 independent__ i guess goodnight.
22:29 MTDiscord <Jordach> asus is a reputable company
22:29 MTDiscord <Jordach> if you want someone who cheaps out rhymes with Hell, Michigan
22:31 Cybille Every Company has cheap Things ... Pay more for more better Things, or learn to Mange (Your Money)
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22:41 MTDiscord <Jordach> https://tenor.com/view/6m-rain-wallstreet-make-it-rain-gif-8203989
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