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IRC log for #minetest, 2021-04-22

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05:39 VJTD3 does minetest share code with the official source?
05:42 Hawk777 If you’re asking if Minetest is open source (i.e. the Minetest source is available publicly) then yes, <https://github.com/minetest/minetest>.
05:42 Hawk777 VJTD3: ^
05:43 VJTD3 no, i'm more asking is if minetest is bound by https://account.mojang.com/documents/commercial_guidelines
05:44 Hawk777 Minetest is not Minecraft and AFAIK has never incorporated any code from it.
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05:44 VJTD3 does the MC client work with the Minetest server?
05:44 MTDiscord <Jordach> no
05:44 MTDiscord <Jordach> obviously NOT
05:46 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Minetest is the official source :]
05:46 Hawk777 I wouldn’t say it’s *obvious* personally, but no, MT ≠ MC and they don’t really have anything technical in common—they just happen to be fairly similar games.
05:49 VJTD3 i'm assuming then all MC mods won't work on MT?
05:49 MTDiscord <Jordach> yes
05:49 MTDiscord <Jordach> Minetest is built with Lua and C"++"
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05:50 MTDiscord <Jordach> i put those in quotes as it's more written as C with C++ used for extra fancies
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16:12 MTDiscord <Danil_2461> is there a way for a mod to get the seed of the world?
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16:24 rubenwardy See minetest.get_mapgen_settings
16:51 VanessaE could someone give this function a look, https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/biome_lib/-/blob/mapgen_deco/compat.lua#L53
16:51 VanessaE tell me if anything looks wrong there?
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16:58 sfan5 looks correct from quick look but I'm not really into the mapgen specifics
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17:10 VanessaE sfan5: oh good.  I was especially concerned with how I'm translating biome_lib's standard perlin behavior/usage to what the engine wants
17:11 VanessaE I mean, the code works fine, but perlin being what it is, it's ...not easy to compare :P
17:12 VanessaE especially since biome_lib uses an "either it is or it ain't" comparison for fertile land, and MT engine uses a gradient (which is what I should have also done originally, in retrospect)
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18:54 Cybille @VanessaE: Nice Code, Well Scriptet. I was sure it has noting wrong in it. But its litke sfan5 say "A Part of your biome_lib that you have in head an a All in One Concept. Some little Expample on Use (in your Biome_lib) will be Helpfull to understand the Concept and implementation (if you dont have allready done it in a Help Text)
19:01 Cybille And take Care about "All in One Concept" sometime it was better to Copy/Past 5 time something insted a for/next Loop (more Code, but easy to Read/Copy/Use to everybody and faster without For/Next Loops/Subs) ... More Work to do, but Easy to Understand and Manage Expetion on Place(like you want) ... High Coding/Subs generate more Problem and OverView Trouble (you have sure a Big Head with all thes Files and Concept)
19:05 VanessaE um...okay
19:06 VanessaE Also Please Don't Write Like This, It's Hard To Read.
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19:10 Cybille Thanks, you Code too, i dont want to exchange your Place to think about all Expetion and Posibilty to Use this ... Nice, well Scriptet Code ... Do you give Support to your onw Chef ?
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19:13 MTDiscord <Jordach> Is that a fucking GPT powered bot
19:14 calcul0n_ a well scriptet bot anyway
19:15 MTDiscord <Jordach> Either that or it’s one of those fancy schmancy GPT translators
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19:24 VanessaE Cybille: biome_lib is a very old mod, and has been in use for 7 or 8 years now.  I'm attempting to adapt it (and perhaps, eventually, some mods that use it) to use the engine's built-in decorations feature, which did not exist when I first started the mod.  That adaptation (the function I showed above) runs just fine.  I'm just not convinced that it's actually correct, both because plant coverage on the terrain is subjective sort of thing, and
19:24 VanessaE because right now only 3 of the 52 items in my usual setup actually get handled by this adaptation routine (the rest have climate/terrain/etc controls in use that the engine can't do and so biome_lib continues to handle them the way it always has)
19:24 VanessaE (oof, write a novel..)
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19:36 Cybille A Novel about "the Passion Christus" for Roman BDSM that think Arab has the Wong belive with Moses Book (Koran=Bibel) because the dont wand Schizzo Slave Collar? No its already Passing on CNN
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19:47 MTDiscord <Jonathon> Well then
19:48 VanessaE definitely a bot
19:48 Cybille One Men one Word GOD ... of Mars that live behinde the Moon ... a dumb Cow wakka wakka Bomb ole, ist-an-bull, OMG der HERR im Himmel Sau-Die-Ah>Ra<Bien KuhWaid(Cow Pasture) Sad Dom Hous Sin, Bug Dad i Rak, Babylon für Buda-Pest Hungar-Y games Roman-ia You-Go Slav-ia on Olympic King Disziplin OMG Bruce Almighty Natur in SECTS Scorpion King (ADD Att(ention) Deffizit DisOrder SATAN RED666 BlackOp Dath Vader > Order
19:48 Cybille > E=MC2 > ParaNOia Traum>Att>ahh BurnID RA Like town cum any Next Station Mos)t(Cow Cow-Boy KuhRa Mak Fly KuhRaRe Noah LIGHT opposite Dark Pass A Gier: be Fertile and make the World SubServant .... Ceasar has don it for the Fuck Animal of ZARR>UDSSR>Soviet>Russia WorkHot or DieCold Hell Angel inzest AlienWARE Smeagol (2in1Head) ... ParaNOid AndroID 100% Relativ, Where Wolf Himalay Cosak Big Rasse? Next Station EOF
19:48 VanessaE (though my remarks still apply :P )
19:48 Cybille was kicked by VanessaE: Cybille
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19:51 specing top kek
19:51 Cybille The Bot was von Google GLASS (Made in Korea) Kollegium Noah Light Ms iOS Google, and after Covid with all that drink, get Drugs or thief Ashtree on Every (Security)Cam, Coulds and Amatuer Cam of Women Light Shoppig World
19:55 rubenwardy Jordach: no where near good enough to be GPT
19:55 Cybille The loudest with the last World, write "the Novel" ... of his i-no-Cent Amour-Y moR@Rom PoorPoor BeGER Battle-Helm Nazi-Ret from KZ Kreta ... The Law and the OMG-Tick ... "Ja-il" VVater Vater MadHouSee OMG-Tick
19:57 MTDiscord <Jordach> :(){ :|:& };:
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20:01 Cybille was kicked by VanessaE: Ok that stops now.
20:01 VanessaE this may not be a particularly busy channel anymore, but we don't need gibberish bots here.
20:02 Swift110-mobile Yeah thats very true
20:03 Swift110-mobile Where has everyone gone?
20:08 specing I find it particularly funny that VanessaE bothered with a long response :)
20:09 specing Swift110-mobile: they let go of their freedom and privacy, and fully embraced Discord
20:09 VanessaE specing: because it's still relevant and I didn't quite figure it out until after I hit enter :P
20:10 MTDiscord <VanessaE> specing:  In all fairness, Discord turned out to not be as hateworthy as I thought it was
20:10 VanessaE (and it gives me an excuse
20:10 MTDiscord <VanessaE> to switch from one to the other
20:10 VanessaE to mess with people :) )
20:11 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> Discord doesn't leak your IP in case you don't use a bouncer/VPN for example
20:11 VanessaE which I do happen to use
20:11 specing neither does Freenode, if you use SASL auth
20:11 VanessaE (though not for privacy reasons)
20:11 specing and get a mask
20:12 VanessaE I use a bouncer (ZNC) for the sake of connectivity, idgaf about "IP privacy" really
20:13 specing IP numbers aren't really that important, at least they can't be used for anything other than rough localisation
20:13 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> I think IRC also generally gives more info about the connected user by default...could be wrong here
20:13 specing Info to whom?
20:15 VanessaE I guess he means stuff like whether you're logged into Nickserv, or what specific IRC server you're connected to
20:15 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> Like idle time and more...but this may depend on the client
20:15 VanessaE (or your bouncer is connected to)
20:15 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> Also not sure if IRC has a 'invisible' feature
20:16 VanessaE it doesn't, not really.  though I suppose if a server wanted to do that there's nothing stopping it
20:16 specing I really want you to answer that question: "To who does it give that info"
20:17 VanessaE (but that might lead to philosophical differences like what led to the IRCnet/EFnet split all those years ago)
20:17 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> Whoever queries it
20:17 specing Because apart from stalking an individual, you cannot really make money from the small data sets generated by being connected to a few IRC channels
20:17 VanessaE specing: I know you're on hitchcock.freenode.net f.ex
20:18 specing While social networks are known to sell your "anonymised" data to advertisers
20:18 VanessaE and if you didn't have a cloak, I'd probably have some idea of your IP also
20:18 specing VanessaE: oh wow you totaly doxxed me right there
20:18 VanessaE haha
20:18 VanessaE that's the info he's talking about though
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20:19 VanessaE whereas on Discord, there isn't really an equivalent to IRC whois :)
20:20 specing you can connect to Freenode via Tor/VPN and you cannot do that to Discord
20:20 Krock instead you're given an unique user ID from what I know
20:20 specing https://stallman.org/discord.html
20:20 VanessaE bleh, RMS is irrelevant :P
20:21 MTDiscord <Jordach> RMS is semi-relevabt
20:21 MTDiscord <Jordach> let him handle the legal and continute to refine the [L/A]GPLs
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20:24 MTDiscord <Jordach> and i'm clearly having an offday when it comes to grammar and spelling
20:24 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> Some more features that make discord just better for chatting: Editing messages, deleting your own messages, mentioning users without pinging them automatically, auto loading of images and videos when you post a link...and many more
20:27 heavygale these are not unique features of discord, they exist with other modern decentralized opensource networks as well
20:27 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> IRC also doesn't allow you to login to the exact same username on multiple devices...does it?
20:27 Krock with ZNC that kinda works
20:30 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> heavygale, yes but people chose the one they like the most so others follow them ... It's the same about WhatsApp...almost nobody in Germany does NOT have it installed...it replaced text messages for us essentially by now
20:30 heavygale oh, so I need to leave germany?
20:32 MTDiscord <IhrFussel> Nah, but there are also other options that are very similar to WA...like Telegram, Signal, Threema etc...but none of them got a chance
20:35 heavygale i have never used whatsapp, instead the services you mentioned (90% of my chats are via matrix, followed by jabber/xmpp), so for me the picture is different: via whatsapp you have no chance with me ^^
20:58 specing IhrFussel all these features are provided by Matrix and XMPP
20:58 specing XMMP(?)
20:58 specing Matrix.org also bridges all of freenode
21:07 MTDiscord <Jonathon> matrix is like a chinese clone of discord while being limited by irc single channel design tbh
21:19 MTDiscord <VanessaE> ooooookay that Cybill bot emailed me...more of the same gibberish as before
21:19 MTDiscord <VanessaE> (or rather the twit who runs it commanded it so do so I suppose 😛 )
21:19 MTDiscord <Jonathon> emailed?
21:20 MTDiscord <VanessaE> mmhmm
21:20 Pexin clearly the time has come to            destroy the earth
21:20 MTDiscord <Jonathon> well then
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21:20 Pexin scour the vile AI
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21:22 MTDiscord <VanessaE> see for yourself 😛
21:22 MTDiscord <VanessaE> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/834901959067697242/email.txt
21:23 MTDiscord <Jonathon> thats a new one
21:24 MTDiscord <Jonathon> seen irc spam bots, but not ones that email people
21:25 Pexin wrote a dicebot once, to see if i could. also because I didnt want to deal with ruby
21:25 Pexin nowadays i could expand it a lot, but why
21:25 MTDiscord <VanessaE> crazy huh
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21:33 MTDiscord <VanessaE> I can't even begin to make sense of that...salad
21:33 MTDiscord <VanessaE> ooh he/it tried spamming on one of my servers too
21:34 MTDiscord <VanessaE> as Alc-Zombie
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